Picnic At Hanging Rock: The Lost Ending
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2018
- The original ending to the film Picnic At Hanging Rock, where Mrs Appleyard goes in search of the girls.
This was reconstructed by a fan from unused footage.
Note that the film and its storyline are entirely fictional! - บันเทิง
The only non horror movie to actually scare me.Creepy as hell and a true masterpiece.
Tbh scares me a lot more than the vast majority of horror movies
I'd say this is a horror movie. If it scares you it's a horror movie. No need for stupid jump scares, just atmosphere and the power of suggestion.
This movie is a masterpiece!!
Also, I have a fondness for untraditional/non-horror movies that are still creepy & haunting. A few others: Walkabout, Mulholland Drive, The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane, The Last Wave, The Witch Who Came from the Sea.
I have an IMDb list of “UnHorror (Creepy Non-Horror Films)”
I consider this a horror film. It's truly Lovecraftian
Peter Weir's ability to convey emotion through images and music is phenomenal .and that final scene with Miranda waving goodbye, turning her head and the stop action shot speaks volumes.
Her arm almost doesn't seem attached to her. Incredible.
This movie was so far ahead of its time. I never get sick of watching it. The music and performances from the main characters were brilliant.
The music in this movie gives me chills.
You said it. I keep on revisiting it
This music is terrifying and reminds me soooo much to the theme/music of the horrifying, The Haunting of Julia (Full Circle) 1978 with Mia Farrow (which scares me to death). Even the music still scares me if I think about that movie (which I do often... For no reason) 😳😱
It's Beethoven's Piano Concerto No 5
the music makes me wanna have another cuppa .. lolwut? doesnt give you the instant coffee 2SMs? I'm apologising profusely. a certain coffee brand used the music to this movie in australia in the 80s and all it does its makes me reach for the kettle for another.
@@adamolszanski Pitting the refined elegance of Beethoven's Emperor against the stark, primitive sound of Gheorge Zamfir's panpipes in the Main Theme is a stroke of genius.
this movie is a masterpiece'its like a delicate painting
Especially if this part is cut.
Well said, mate.
Well said, mate.
About 30 years ago as a secondary school Literature teacher, I taught this novel and as an assessment had the students in pairs, write the final chapter.
Awesome idea for an assignment. I would have enjoyed your class.
@@christiangasior4244 We had discussed and explored various possibilities. Unsolved mysteries are a reality of life and we all have our theories.
I like how the theme of dichotomy between rich and poor is represented in the film. Mrs. Appleyard, represents strict Victorian morality and seems more concerned about school's reputation and gossips than the disappearance of the girls (even though she herself at one point says that she believes they were raped and killed). Chief of police being a representative of the law never wants to speak with the villagers who want to know the truth. There is also an interesting relationship between Michael and Albert. When the former criticizes the orphan for his remarks about girl's looks, Albert emphasizes Michael's duplicity by saying - I say, what you think. Michael also says how back in England girls would never been allowed to walk through the forest alone. Michael is caring, obviously disturbed by what happened, but it's just the way he was raised. And, of course, there is Sarah... and many more such examples.
And that's only one of the aspects of this beautiful film. Its imagery, dreamlike sequences makes it so poetic. A true masterpiece
Wish this was on a blu-ray with the option to watch both. I like the fact that this girl who longed to be with the group nevertheless joins them (wherever they are and in whatever form), but when Appleyard discovers the source of her desires and climbs that same rock cleft is somehow rejected. Haunting. Brilliant. Will never tire of the subtle layers within the movie.
I definitely prefer this ending, glad I found it right after seeing a movie. It’s the perfect contrast of order and chaos, the rigid reality of Mrs Appleyard caving to the dreamy world of Hanging Rock
It seems to me that one aspect of the film not commonly mentioned is that it seems to be about not just the girls and teacher who were lost, but about people who are present and yet lost. Sara, as an orphan, is just as lost as the others and yet she is right there. Mrs Appleyard, in her own way, becomes lost in the consequences of the disappearance. I think one of the saddest aspects of the film is that Sara was so close to being reunited with her brother Bertie but was kept apart from him due to circumstances that neither one of them were even aware of. That is as much a mystery as anything else in the entire story.
True 🤟
Anguishing scene, yet the most disturbing is that it happens in broad dayligt.
This film is unique.
Sara and her long lost Brother Albert were supposed to meet on the day of the Picnic - it was Fate, but somehow they didn’t and it caused some sort of rift or break in time that had to be course corrected via the other girls disappearance - now after death Sara is finally at Hanging Rock but it’s too late to meet her brother
I've never seen the full version of this ending before, only an abbreviated version. This is priceless! I love it.
They take off their corsets and throw them off a cliff, and the corsets hang in the air. Seeing the suspended corsets makes the girls understand that they're in the presence of a time warp, and they follow the math teacher into it, through a crack in the rock. They enter another dimension and never return.
I think this film is the very best Australia has ever produced. I have this on Blu-Ray but don't recall having seen this footage. Thankyou to the people responsible for making it available.
The movie is not really about a solution to what happened to the girls. It's saying something different, something about the very nature of mystery itself and the need that humans have to find explanations, reasons for and why, and answers. A lack of resolution is always disturbing to us as humans; it's inherent in our nature. The ambiguity of the ending and the mystery's remaining unsolved is in fact the point of the movie. The characters throughout the film are nearly obsessed with finding the solution to the girls' disappearance, but they can find no answers. Similarly, and just like the characters in the film, the movie's viewer finds it difficult to tolerate the ambiguity of the lack of resolution, and after seeing the movie a viewer tries in an unsatisfactory manner to explain what happened, to find a solution, to invent some theory, etc., just like the film's characters. That lack of explanation and our pursuit of just what happened is at the heart of the film and in fact the statement being made by the film, its real meaning. The movie emphasizes to us that there are some mysteries in life that indeed have no solution nor explanation, in spite of our best efforts to create valid explanations.
So true!
And all because the publishers cut the last chapter, the one which explained what happened, from the book. Makes it much stronger, since the explanation of what happened to the girls at teacher is so freaking stupid.
@@gracehowell. Given the events leading up to it, some sort of paranormal event was hinted at. What other explanation would have been better? (Minus the crab-bit, which was just mental beyond words.)
"after the movie a viewer tries... to... invent some theory" Indeed.
"the desperate need that humans have to find explanations" When someone goes missing it's normal to want to know where she went. Why you're marginalizing normality as "obsession with creating explanations" I don't know.
The lack of resolution works for this great horror movie because we experience horrifying lacks of resolution in real life.
I absolutely agree with you! I think the author had purposely left the ending unfinished to create an element of mystery. Everybody will have their own interpretation of the ending. As far I read online, there were indeed a case of missing girls in reality. So, the only thing I can think of is that, perhaps they eloped, died due to fall and tumbling rocks or the worst was abducted my men. The latter being the most probable cause.
Miss McCraw's watch stopped then she went missing, and then Mrs. Appleyard's clock stopped and then she dies after. This movie has a theme with how time(clocks/watches) and our personl lives intertwine. The girls don't have watches that's why they never knew if it was their turn to die, they had no idea
I just watched an interview with the author Joan Lindsay. She mentions that other people’s watches appear to stop when they are in her company, though doesn’t offer an explanation as to why. Interesting, though perhaps tenuous link?
This ending might not be as powerful as the original but I like the idea of seeing Mrs. Appleyard out of context, at hanging rock, and the music makes everything even more incredible.
miss appleyard and her pendulous breasts.. soz. got nuthin. i do remember the book and the addendum xx
Thankyou so much for posting this. I've never seen this ending. I've loved this movie since I was a teenager. I've always thought the headmistress pushed Sarah out the window, because she's all in black before she's told Sarah is dead. Maybe that's why she sees her on the rock, her guilty conscience. I also always thought they were all abducted by aliens, because before they went up the rock those at the picnic had their watches stop, and I think the maths mistresse's compass went crazy. UFO's are said to mess with magnetic fields. Also, the strange cloud they saw. This is what I thought as a teenager anyway.
Interesting to see this ending but not including it was correct for the film. Peter Weir made the right decision. Ending with Mrs. Appleyard’s face was perfect. Bravo, Peter Weir. It is a triumph.
Agreed. As has been noted here and elsewhere since the film came out, Mrs. Appleyard can be seen as a representation of the Victorian Era's dark side, as well as the "devouring mother". Inflexible. Ruthless. Class conscious. Unsympathetic.
The HAIR - good lord the hair. The disheveled quality of her hair in this clip while she is on the rock, vs. her hair in the school says it all.
The film's theatrical release ending is more powerful because it is the immovable meeting the unstoppable, the purely logical and rational meeting the inscrutable, the occult, the unknowable - all captured and expressed in the face of a very gifted actress.
0.55 The sound of that ticking grandfather clock there in Mrs Appleyard's office as the camera stares into her troubled face... And then the ticking stops!!
The music and everything about this ending freaks me out.
So Mrs Appleyard sees the apparition of poor Sarah, the only girl at the school to be cruelly forbidden from attending the picnic at Hanging Rock. Infuriatingly,, she doesn't see Miranda, Marion Quade or Miss McGraw (even as apparitions). They have indeed vanished without trace, their fate totally unresolved. Instead, Sarah Waybourne appears to her. Quite a masterstroke.
The inference from the movie, at least what I got, was Sarah did not commit suicide. She was murdered by Mrs Appleyard, and Sarah appears to exact her revenge on the rock
@@Faster_than_light_ You're right, I agree. I had not thought of the possibility of Sarah being murdered, I had always assumed it was a suicide.
I saw this movie as a 12 year old when it first came out. I have not read the book, so all my views come from the movie. I watched the movie again recently and also last night. Then I stumbled upon this alternate ending. Or was this how the ending went in the book? I was wondering last night, did Sarah suicide or was she pushed by Appleyard? Appleyard lied and said she'd been taken away by her guardian that morning. Did Appleyard know she was already dead, hence the black clothes? If so, why lie about the guardian as the truth would come out very soon, as it did. I'm going to read the book now, don't know why I already hadn't. One thing I can say, this film is an Australian Classic and a masterpiece.
"Cruelly"
oh, please. She was difficult on purpose and deserved not to go by Victorian standards. Even today most teachers would probably keep her back for refusing to do her lessons. Don't be so immature.
@@Faster_than_light_ she has literally no reason to murder her lol. You guys want so badly for this poor woman to be evil for no reason.
Hadn’t seen this ending before. I don’t think it was needed but it’s actually a really creepy short film all on its own.
Interestingly in all version when they see the head in her office after Sara dies you notice that the clock in her room stops ticking......
Ohhh Beethoven THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR BEING JUST TOO BRILLIANT
The most beautiful haunting movie ❤
This really make sence - as now we see Mrs Appleyard without her hairdo - and that makes her look more human. This really adds depth to her character. Mountain walk made her loose her mostruosity, she's just a woman here.
And yes - deliberately or not, she reminds me of Miranda here - only aged, dressed in black, troubled.
Australia took the the girls: the land itself and the ancient rocks that stayed the same from the first day of this planet let the young women join their existence where time doesn't exist.
I like this interpretation.
I have watched this so many times and not seen this ...amazing
Where have you watched this full movie, on which website? Here on TH-cam?
th-cam.com/video/apwO27NLTFo/w-d-xo.html. Not sure if that will work for you but it does for me :)
I think this ending would have been too dramatic of an extension for the end of the film after finding Sara's dead body and seeing Appleyard in her black veil which. Still, it makes a satisfyingly traditional ending for a horror film which is somewhat of what Picnic at Hanging Rock is and delivers pretty chilling results with the way it shows her all in black and struggling against the harsh terrain that her sharp-minded nature is no match for and has put her at its mercy.
Who else go goose bumps when Sara appears ?
Or the music and the gap truly does me
joe Norton just watched it again , same reaction 🤣
I love the look Rachel Roberts puts on "Mrs Appleyard's" face at the sight of Sara, the orphan not allowed to go to the Picnic. She's not scared, not astonished, not even surprised. Just bored and pissed off and in that moment, maybe she does have an epiphany about life.
Hey Mark I don't know if you are aware of this of course but Bruce Smeaton composed the original music for 'Picnic'.
@@phillipstrommer4668 Haha, sadly, Mark Smeaton is only a nom de plume. He was a musician wrongly beheaded for adultery with Queen Anne Boleyn, the second wife of King Henry VIII but maybe Bruce was related to him. My name is Liam .🙂
First saw this at the Seattle Film festival in ‘76 and liked the strange combination of pan pipe and organ
I don’t know why but this film gives me the same vibes as “virgin suicides”
That's because this film had a huge influence on Sofia who directed Virgin Suicides
Because it’s very atmospheric and a big part of the movie is the vibe or mood is gives with the music and the blurry, dream like sequences… small details like ants climbing on cake… it takes you out of the ordinary and mundane into a hazy world. Plus it’s about beautiful young girls and friendship and female bonds.
Thinking EXACTLY the same thing….! I’ve seen BOTH several times & for dome odd reason saw both AGAIN…back to back & just incidentally…in the same 24 hours. 🤭😶…
I think it also influenced David Lynch. The Miranda character has Laura Palmer vibes. Also, Lynch made mystery films that couldn't be solved. That's how Lynch himself explained them.
A Masterpiece
This ending contributes so much to the actual movie , seems odd it was cut before release.
I prefer the theatrical ending. But a very creepy touch with Sara appearing at the rock, after she’d committed suicide.
Its almost as though Sara gets her revenge in some small way.
@@pheart2381 i agree
This ending is far better than the original one because instead of letting the viewer have no clue of what happened to the girls in the end , this one actually indicates that the things that happened on the rock were more different than kidnapping or any other crime.
I agree. It is a story about elemental forces, not about kidnapping.
@@lucyhamilton4804 which dvd release of the movie is this deleted scene in?
IMO that lessens the impact of the film. Ambiguity is what leaves a powerful effect on you. Was it paranormal, did they fall in a hole, were they kidnapped, did they lose their mind and commit suicide?
@@thereccher8746 And sometimes it doesn't. Giving us no information has no impact at all because there's literally nothing to work with.
Totally agree. It's still an ambiguous ending anyway, but casts doubt on the more conventional and, quite frankly, less interesting theories as to what happened to the girls.
Id never seen this ending before. And its confusing to me that it wasn't "used". Not in any version i know of. I found it very powerful, especially knowing that Mrs Appleyard saw Sarah before plunging to her death. Its always been one of my favourite movies. Seeing this has inspired me to read the book again 🤟
I personally prefer this ending . The left up to the imagination people say this shows to much but I disagree . The viewer can actually use their imagination because although we see one of the girls we aren’t still sure what is going on . Is Miss Appleyard dead at this point ? Is she dreaming ? This scene is eerie and still preserves the mystery . That is a common device used in this genre and it works if handled right .
This is much better than just the voiceover. And we get the gorgeous ascent music again, too. Strange that it was cut.
Not really. Not everyone particularly enjoys watching suicides.
@@jostockton. We didn't really see her commit suicide though. I mean there's nothing particularly more gruesome in this scene than the ending with only the voiceover, right?
This belongs in the film in my opinion. Seeing the breakdown of Mrs Appleyard, seeing her looking like she's floating over the rock in her black dress and cloak, and seeing Sarah's spirit, which may or may not have been only in her mind, would have been a wonderful ending. I hope at some point it's added back into the original cut of the film.
have to disagree. as in many cases: less is more. The same actions and sequence of shots is already seen performed by different characters so imo it is repetitive. Get over the open end like you have to get over the fact, that there are moving plants...
I like the cut version better has a way more impactful ending. It strikes you where as this just added extra stuff.
I agree with you it belongs in the film,as well as the 8 or 9 minutes of scenes that were in the original release of the film.These have been deleted from later editions. I was able to locate a vhs copy of the original film ,and it has those deleted segments, in the film where they originally were.Unfortunately not this ending though.
It would have been an cyclical way to close the film on this sequence to match with the other two sequences on Hanging Rock, the one with the girls straying too far and the other of Michael and Albert struggling to find them. It makes sense that it had to go because it feels too repetitive of those other two sequences as it's chilling enough just seeing Appleyard staring coldly into the camera, prepared to face death, and hearing of her death after that. Overall, the film ends on the note that Hanging Rock is a dangerous and ominous source of horror and mystery that leaves people damaged or doomed.
Reckon the missing girls walked through a dimensional portal and for them everyone else in the picnic group disappeared or went missing...that's the thing about dimensional portals, they're next...next level weird
* too bad they didn't have smartphones back in 1900, they could've live-streamed the whole thing
Lindsay had wrote an ending that explained what happened- Ch. 18, but it was omitted by her editor.
Not ‘had wrote’- just wrote. Oops
It's not Sara in the rocks. Her expression is evil. I have chills every time I watch her in this scene. Well played.
I didn't get that impression at all. First I saw her give Mrs Appleyard a very sweet smile. Then I saw her give a different kind of smile, which seemed to have simply said, "Too bad. I have triumphed, lady." I didn't feel she looked evil- I felt it was more a poetic justice thing- the worm turning, as the saying goes. She had died and her spirit was free, roaming about the rocks, probably with her beloved Miranda- while there was the feeling that Mrs Appleyard, with her sins, would be going to a less pleasant place. And it was like Sara was just crowing over Mrs Appleyard a bit because her eternal fate was better. Don't blame her!
Yes, my impression is that it is some sort of demon and not Sarah. Whatever it is its only purpose is to lure the headmistress into the rocks in the same way as the girls.
@@EmmaKathrynAuthor I really like that explanation, Emma. Although, rather than Sara's spirit being real, it makes me think the image of Sara may just be cinematic metaphor more than anything else. Thematically I agree with you. I don't dispute the idea of Sara's spirit actually being there but I just like how the scene works as metaphor (whether she is there or not). I like how Sara looks up to the sky and Mrs Appleyard looks down. I don't sense evil within the scene, just an overall expression of karmic justice. Sara had escaped and reached the heavens, Mrs Appleyard had become broken and falls. Thematically, the ancient Rock reveals truth of character. If I look at this scene in logical terms, I would lean more towards the idea of the image of Sara being in Mrs Appleyard's mind, expressing her own thoughts.
@@EmmaKathrynAuthor I rewatched the original Theatrical Release version tonight and really got caught up in the emotions during the second half. It's clear that Mrs Appleyard struggles greatly over dismissing Sara from the school and it hits her even harder after she commits suicide.
On reflection I feel pretty sure (at least in my own mind) that the Sara in this lost ending is most likely Mrs Appleyard's guilt. Following Sara's suicide, Mrs Appleyard tells Mlle de Poitiers that Sara left. Mrs Appleyard, with her hands shaking, is hiding her guilt in that scene. She continues to hide her guilt when getting drunk at the table. Mlle de Poitiers asks about Sara leaving and Mrs Appleyard completely evades the question. On the Rock, stripped of everything, she has to (or is ready to) face her sins, before committing suicide herself.
And of course, metaphorically Sara belongs on the Rock with the others. She smiles with satisfaction immediately after being told that she has to go back to the orphanage. She knows where she belongs in spirit and has made up her mind. But I do lean more towards her image at the end belonging to Mrs Appleyard. It's just like how Mike sees the swan on his bed. It's a visualisation of his thoughts. Sara is a visualisation of Mrs Appleyard's thoughts.
This is a great film. I become aware of different angles each time I watch it. My opinions are formed, reinforced or changed somewhat, yet I am never 100% certain of my conclusions and wonder how I will feel next time. I really like that enigmatic quality.
@Ruby Kang it's a nice thought that Sara belongs on the rock with the others. I like, also, that she visited her brother just as she died. That's one of my favourite scenes in the book. When her brother dreams of her, and smells pansies- her favourite flower. And then she mists over and says "I have to go."
But I don't feel Sara committed suicide. I think the inferences in the book that Mrs Appleyard was covering up a crime are too strong for that. Remember how she kept telling people that Sara's guardian arrived to pick her up, and she herself helped Sara pack her little covered basket before she left? And then she would go to her room, and gaze at where she had hidden Sara's covered basket.
I know the film is not the book. But I could never see it as confirmed that Sara committed suicide. It's too open for that.
A perfect movie
I think this scene is much creepier than I have seen so far from the movie, especially at 5:21 onwards. Watched the movie for the first time some 40 years ago and I was only a small child back then.
A huge thank you for this «lost ending», Lucy. I never heard of this alternative ending. Do you know if this ending was cut off in the final editing by the movie director (Peter Weir) or by the producers? And Why?
Having said that, this movie is and was always one of my favorite movies, all categories included. The luminous and poetic atmosphere, the music (especially those of Romanian composer and flutist Gheorghe Zamfir and Bethoven), the eerie soundtrack, when the girls are climbing the mountains, the perpetual oscillation between reality and fantasy. All these elements, combined in a coherent whole by the unmatchable talent of Peter Weir, creates a pure masterwork. On this note, the amazing quality of the photography is priceless.
And, most important of all, there is a key actor in this movie. A deaf actor, almost omnipresent: NATURE. The main plot of this movie is unfolding the Valentine's Day, the lovers birthday. Love, with all it's transgression of morality codes that appeals. On this special day, a group of female college students go to a picnic at Hanging Rock. And this is at this occasion that three students will disappear definitively, the fourth one, who accompanied this small group, will be recovered. But she will never tell to the authorities any information, voluntarily or not.
While everybody sleeps, four ladies wake up and seem in trance, «hypnotized» by, for using an oxymoron, the «horrifying beauty» of the mountains. So, they decide to climb these dangerous mountains, despite all the dangers that expecting them. It looks like the mountains, and all the nature, send them an irresistible call to join them, to form one body with all the natural elements, biological and mineralogical. The soundtrack, with all it's synthetized whisperings and other odd sounds, increases an effect of «unreality». Therefore, the viewer, with the four ladies, is caught in another universe, with it's mysterious, indecipherable codes. The human logic, morality and norms have no more any values.
In one hand, we have the Victorian college, with all it's strict rules and rigid morality, personified by it's director and owner, Mrs Appleyard (excellent Helen Morse). And, in the other hand, we have the almighty, titanic nature, with all it's hostile and wonderful beauty. And, at the end, it's the Nature that will overwhelm the social and cultural other part. Consequently to the disappearing of the three students at Hanging Rock, the college will never survive to this drama nor it's her director, Mrs Appleyard. In fact, since the lost of the three ladies, this this college will disintegrate gradually in front of our own eyes. The scenes where we see Mrs Appleyard cross off the names of the students she looses, consequently to this drama, is an eloquent, meaningful sign of this dereliction.
I don't know how many times I watched this movie since I saw it on television, since I was a young adult (I'm 60, now).
Also, I highly appreciate that Peter Weir has never tried to explain the mysterious disappearance of the three ladies. Therefore, the viewer has the opportunity to use his/her imagination as he/she wants. When the ladies climbs the mountains, it's as they were called by a mysterious absolute quest, an inner necessity to free themselves from all the constraining way of life of the Victorian era, with all it's suffocating codes and narrow morality.
Presently, I began to read the novel, written by Joan Lindsay, at the origin of this movie. All the mysterious magic of the movie is in this book.
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Wonderful ""ending""! Beautiful photography (naturally) and setting. Evocative! I always did have that impression, even with the ending we are mostly used to!!
There is a languid dreamy quality that infused the film, I've watched it hundreds of times it's utterly hypnotic
the soundtrack is 70per cent of the movie
Agreed. It's Beethoven's Piano Concerto No 5
The book suggests Appleyard committed suicide. She has no part in the soon-to-be new Australia (where victorian tradition can't interfere with dreamtime)
Look up the actual secret ending. The author published her original final chapter 3 years after her death as her publishers wouldn’t keep in in the book. It explains what actually happened
@@dino-anima-sorus582 It's not that her publishers "wouldn't keep it in" dumbass, her publisher suggested leaving out the final chapter, I guess feeling an ambiguous ending would work better than a flat-out supernatural one, and Lindsay agreed.
N L lol wrote this in 5am delirium 😂 yeh what u said 👍🏻 wrong choice of words on my part
saying this as the skippiest girlie ever, i dont think dreamtime ever negates attention to detail when it comes to furniture or other ephemera and the ins and outs nor the attraction to beauty. im no dreamtime expert (if there could ever be) cos dreamtime is still happening, yeah?
@@dino-anima-sorus582 she turns into a crab and leads the girls into another dimension.
This movie scared the shit out of me.
LOL, why? It's about the emerging and confused sexuality of *_repressed_* Victorian-era girls. Nothing more. They died, and so did the woman _perpetuating_ the repression. She didn't want to admit it openly, so she did it by dying herself, too. Sex is the portal to *_life itself..._* without sex and orgasms, we simply can't "procreate"... that Life Lesson should have been taught to all repressed prudes and 'cats bum' pommie types.
@@crackfartley7959 Are you even asking why? Lol.
It scared the shit out of me, too ... I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Been obsessed with the film since I saw it 35 years ago. I watch every Summer. It got me into classical music (guitar in my case). That Beethoven piece is the most beautiful music ever written. No need for the missing ending. The original cut is perfect. Like “2001: Space Odyssey”, its an audio/visual tone poem. The other enduring mystery: what happened to Margaret Nelson? She gave this unforgettable performance and totally understood the part. Does she know the impact she had?
This film deserved more
This is the film that started my serious interest in film. It is timeless indeed.
This movie is a masterpiece, anyway.
I do believe I prefer this ending. The girls were all very charming but Rachel Roberts...was outstanding. One of the most evocative film scores ever. Perfectly suited to the scenario.
There is an entity, older than the World itself, that resides at Hanging Rock.
Ms. McCraw figured it out. It's dreamtime! Australia will become independent from victorian europe in less than 12 months from when this story is set. The land has started a new beginning
no, its a portal to another dimension
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It is quite simply , A ROCK!! This is NOT based on a true story, but purely fictional.
irisheyes317 yeppo my lovely! didnt anyone see when they took off their stay-ups and kid boots they connected with country. not all the gels got it, but they did xx
De toutes façons , cette fin coupée au montage , nous laisse aussi le choix de laisser aller notre imagination ! C'est un film inoubliable même 48 ans plus tard ! Je suis né , la même année que Anne Lambert et à 20 ans , elle ressemblait vraiment à l'un des anges de Botticelli ! Merci pour ce partage !
Fascinating movie! Everyone can draw his own conclusions. Thank you for this movie part!
I really like the bit about her traveling up at night in black and then seeing them carry her body away, I actually only would have changed seeing Sarah, as I think her just staring up at the nail path with the same expression would have been great, the actress playing the headmistress that a fantastic job
Plot twist they never went missing they just started a life there
No one looked BEHIND the rocks?!
It was on TV last night and I must admit I probably hadnt seen it for 30 years or so . I think it is one of those films that you can more or less read whatever you want into it ,and it is expansive enough to let you .There are many threads that one through the film ,but I think it is up to the audience to interpret it as they want ,and it is no worse for that .
I must I only realised there was a different ending till just now .I am two minds whether it helps the film or not ,but on balance I think the original might well be a better ending as it leaves things even more enigmatic .
sorry it should be "run through the film ," not "one through the film"
I'd like to add something ... well, my point is that the watches stop at 12:00. It is very important. Why ... (?) 12:00 / noon / is a "mirror image" of 00:00, that is / midnight /. 00:00 is CHAOS (!!!) - The previous day is over, but the next one is not yet… what is CHAOS? oh yes - nothing (!) In this nanosecond (if you can call it that) there is NOTHING, EMPTY, HOLY ....
Is it possible that this movie is really an allegory on how Australia cut ties with England? You have the English style boarding school, and the girls in their (inadequate for hot weather) English clothes look weird to the townspeople. Then you have the teachers who are too smart for the school's culture, and the girls who are becoming too sexually mature for the type of controlling environment of the school. The girl who is found alive, is last seen dressed in adult clothes, looking much older, heading off to Europe. When the girls get lost in the rock formation, maybe it represents how the English would move to Australia and be overcome by nature?
I like the idea
My father said that settlers can bring their culture to the new land but, in the long run, Mother Nature swallows them up.
An allegory, yes. The novel by Joan Lindsey was indeed rich with social criticism (classes, poor jobs) but secondary characters, like young Michael and his mate Albert (brother of Sara), as well as the French teacher, Tom the Irish and his girlfriend showed that progress in a such desolate outpost is possible through love and friendhsip.
Wonderful to see what might have been, though I still prefer the actual ending. There is something so uncanny about the screaming, followed by silence, save for the relentless ticking of the clock (memento mori?) and the unsettling way Mrs Appleyard slowly turns to address you, the viewer, personally. The horror builds in waves, unrelenting.
Never got the version where they all transformed into crabs and walked sideways through a cross-dimensional portal. Maybe that would've blown the mystery, and I doubt the special effects would've stretched that far, either.
Ah, Chapter 18.... That really did prove the book came to her in a dream.
What’s crazy is…I believe they DID went through a portal. Not intentionally, but accidentally
@@devionewilkins8903 That is exactly what happened.
@@theradgegadgie6352 yep! What’s unnerving is where does that portal take them? Through Time? Another Dimension? The Spiritual realm? ( fully believe the spiritual realm theory) there was a story of a man/woman who went on an elevator and it appeared to have a 13th floor. They got curious and pressed it. When it took them to that level, it’s said that the person seen Fire everywhere. Screaming and Demonic laughing. They pressed another button and they went back to the first level. When the look back at the button section. The 13th button disappeared.
@@devionewilkins8903 Where and when was that?
There are just things in life that we simply cannot explain
Magic, great film.Mystery of Life, Mastery of movie.Miranda is an Angel...
Staring at 3:10 you can see that one of the rocks behind Mrs. Appleyard, is the shape of a heart.
This movie is a work of art. The Author Joan Lindsay is a genius writer.
I have my theory on what really happened. To much to text here, but I thought that rock formation looks cool, considering it was Valentines Day, that they went missing 😉
I'm sorry to disappoint, but nothing "really happened" - the novel Picnic at Hanging Rock is a work of fiction. Joan Lindsay is indeed a genius writer, and part of her genius is that she wrote the novel in a "realistic" fashion to evoke versimilitude; but nobody actually went missing on Valentine's Day.
@James Brice I find that people who say "you must be fun at parties," rarely, if ever, attend any parties.
@James Brice LOL Stinkums 😂😂😂 Wow, real high brow intellect you've got there 😂 Why not go the whole hog and add "nyah nyah doody head?" and "I'm telling mommy?" However, I usually make a point of being nice to little kids on TH-cam , so off you scurry, poppet, and let the grown-ups talk.
James Brice but she’s right
@James Brice You're just mad cause she's right. Piss off troll
One thing I enjoy is the imperfect filmic quality, the missing frames its really time gated. its something that current generations of movies could ever replicate poorly with subtle nuances like breath holding movements and slight turns of the camera.
My theory for the explanation is a more lovecraftian one:
the peak of the mountain, that always scared even the aboriginal people, is the home for some kind of creature or entity, that when seen by human beings sends them into a state of extreme distress and erases itself from their memory. While the first two girls and the teacher were hypnotised and "accepted" by the creature, the third girl, who was left behind (but was trying to catch up to the others) didn't manage to get to the peak in time, so the creature devoured the 2 girls and the teacher, but the third one was so unsettled by the sight of the monster, that she fainted and hit her head against a rock, too far for the creature to see her.
The fourth one instead(the one who came back screaming), saw all of it: she saw the girls being hypnotised, the creature emerging from the "red cloud", but not for enough time to faint or go insane, so she ran screaming down the rock.
The guy that searched for them and found the third one, instead got so shocked by the creature, that he couldn't talk or move, but, out of determination, he continued climbing, just to find the third girl still alive and bring her down, so that his friend would not have to see the monster to find the girl.
Then his friend came searching for him and found him and the girl, but did not venture far enough to see the creature.
In the end, when the other girl, Sara, dies, it is because she suicided, probably because of something she dreamed the night before.
And then the director of the school, who at the time already lost her mind, decided to commit suicid too,
by climbing the mountain and sacrificing herself to the monster, but due to her old age she didn't manage to get to the monster and fell on the rocks, dying.
This is my theory, there may be some flaws, but i think it is supported by the fact that the aboriginal people thought that evil spirits lived in the peak of the mountain, overall i like to think this is what happened, but i certainly liked more the ambiguity of the ending.
(english is not my first lenguage so please excuse any errors.)
I'm Australian and there is no evidence of the local Aboriginal people being scared of Hanging Rock, or believing it was haunted by evil spirits, whatsoever. Quite the opposite; there is archaeological evidence that they lived there for nearly 30,000 years; hardly something they'd do if they were scared of it. The whole urban legend about the local Aboriginals supposedly being terrified of the place only came out after this movie, but there is zero evidence to support it.
There is a whole book to this story where the last chapter tells you what happens. Its still mysterious but everyone who is into spiritual concepts will kinda get it.
Wow,never seen this ending before,never even knew it existed.
I actually prefer this ending....it's the perfect ending and answer to what happened to Mrs. Appleyard. To me this would have been a satisfying end of this beautiful and mysterious film!!! 👍
I personally think this scene should have been kept in the movie . It adds an eerie dimension to the story but still preserves the mystery.
When I first saw the film the first few times this was the ending. Weir trimmed 7 minutes years later. I preferred this version.
They should have left it in. I just took the book out of the library, and this was the ending in the book. I'm currently viewing videos of time slips and unexplained vanishings, and this movie fits right in.
any idea which blurry it appears on ? , thanks.
the clove is in a different position,from when she falls asleep,to when she awakes.
i spotted that too
Can you imagine this movie on a double bill with "Mulholland Drive"?
Or the virgin suicides
Or The Neon Demon
@@lunarvision Or Aguirre The Wrath of God
Or Inland Empire.
"Ascent theme" amazing masterpiece!!
I had no ide there was another ending! Thank you for posting it!
Thank you for sharing Lucy Hamilton!
This is what Joan Lindsay wrote of the end of Mrs. Appleyard and the general narrative of the story:
"She had always been afraid of spiders, looked round for something with which to strike it down and saw Sara Waybourne, in a nightdress, with one eye fixed and staring from a mask of rotting flesh.
An eagle hovering high above the golden peaks heard her scream as she ran towards the precipice and jumped. The spider scuttled to safety as the clumsy body went bouncing and rolling from rock to rock towards the valley below. Until at last the head in the brown hat was impaled upon a jutting crag."
That would have been a heckuva scene to film.
You bet.
At least the spider was unhurt.
Brilliant and well said. I saw this movie as a teenager. Still love it to this very day. Jesus said it is not for you to understand in this lifetime. We must strive and raise ourselves to remaining child like. I believe this is why the actress who played Miranda well into her 60's has a youthfull appearance. I do not need to know what happened. That keeps me young too at 60.😂
I think Weir was right not to include this sequence at the end of the film. The look on Appleyard's face alone was enough to end the film, and it also introduces an unnecessary supernatural element that I don't think belongs in the film. Whatever the mystery is, it's far more compelling that it's unresolved and doesn't invoke strangeness outside of ordinary human experience.
This conclusion - and commentary, had already been met in the 'making of 'retrospective video: th-cam.com/video/h3a2bsgglS8/w-d-xo.html
I took the girl in white to be a hallucination from Appleyard's conscienve, of both guilt and longing.
@@Murgatroydian That's a perfectly legit interpretation, but why would Appleyard connect Sara Waybourne with the rock? Sara stayed behind her story was connected to the school. Not dismissing, just interested.
@@bobbydazzler8684 I've just finished watching this film and I don't understand how this is not a film about the supernatural.
the film opens with ''What we see and what we seem is but a dream a dream within a dream
", the film is located in Australia, aboriginals believed in the eternal dream in which the beginning and the end are the same. One single point of time. A bedrock foundation, if you will? Lava from deep down below forming the mametons of hanging rock... rock that has been waiting for millions of years for someone to visit, i remember Irma saying.
Miranda's quote on the rock: "everything begins and ends at exactly the right time and place", and Miranda is also extremely iffy, same with glasses girl. My first instinct says that they're some sort of angelic or demonic entities, not too sure about glasses girl but Miranda is definitely.. special.
Why does it have to be supernatural? Why else do we get the crazy synth sounds on the rock? Why do people seem to respond physically to the presence of the rock? Why does everyone take a nap on the rock (dreaming maybe)? What's up with miss Grimshaw (?) walking around without her dress, walking right past a screaming tubby girl? did you notice how the boy mentions to the police that the tubby girl was the last one to cross the pond, while it is clear that it was Miranda who last crossed the pond? Why did she put a flower in the water? didn't Sara like pansies, I don't know if those are the same flowers..
I have too many questions after this film and I loved it.
Also, were Miranda and Sara in actual love with eachother or am I completely misreading that? Sara giving her a valentine's card makes me think so, but perhaps I misunderstand the Valentine's day customs in the movie.
Also, rewatch the scene where they're walking in between the rocks, you will see Miranda waiting for the other 3 to pass her by. In the next cut, you see the 3 girls, and then there's a small ("barely" noticeable) cut when Miranda walks past with her creepy mannerisms and psychotic calm demeanor.
Thank you for sharing.
Good complement to this astonishing film...
I started watching the movie a few nights ago, I haven't finished it yet.I was prompted to watch after recent;y reading he book.The movie so far seems fairly good at capturing the essence of he book.
ACTUALLY, I CAN NOT COMMENT: NO WORDS... I' M BREATHLESS
You type with your breath? Wow.
I saw the film when it came out back in the 70s as a schoolgirl and I feel sure that this ending was the one I saw. Would love to know when they changed it
Peter Weir himself removed it with the 20th anniversary re-release of the film. Most people agree that the shorter, more vague final cut is the better one.
I had no idea this ending ever made it to theaters. Fascinating. I love both endings but I think I prefer the vague ending.
The mystery of this always gets me, walking on that Rock myself gave me bad vibes and it’s got beautiful views but quite scary, also makes it very eery knowing of this. Another thing is very close by there is a hill that pulls things the wrong way example: you park your car and get out of it, it rolls backwards not forward as well as water bottles and anything else. Is there some place none of them could reach to find the body, or did they runaway or did they vanish
The author wouldn't answer it but there is no record that this actually happens.
The novel is a work of fiction. The author is a grand story teller and very mischievous. To understand the nature of this story, it helps to understand Joan Lindsay, who was, I think, a rather complex and fascinating character.
The book isn't based on a true story it's made up
This mystery of this film, maybe be same as [Pulp Fiction] with that shinny golden inside item of that suitcase. You never know what it was really in there so you make your own ideas. This is and in [hanging rock] you never know what happened to those girls.. Just you making your own thoughts.
petey and quentin mightve had a convo or two. at least youd hope 😂😂
I like this ending better
Extremely clever work stitching together the outtakes with the music and ending narration! I think the actual ending in the film is plenty unnerving, but there's a spectacularly haunting quality to this as well. Especially when she envisions Sara through a crevice in the rock face.
*Spoilers ahead*
Mrs. Appleyard was clearly aware of Sara's death when she rummaged through her belongings, and lied to Mlle. Poitiers by saying she was taken away by her guardian. This footage gives me more reason to think Mrs. Appleyard may be guilty of pushing Sara to her death. Or perhaps she sees her image out of guilt for mistreating her while she was alive. It's the mark of a truly great mystery when nearly every plot beat or story element can be theorized/analyzed with multiple plausible outcomes. This was a fantastic film, and I look forward to watching it again next St. Valentine's Day!
I'm glad they didn't include this. It's much better and more mysterious not seeing her go there. Without this 'explanatory' scene, one is left to wonder, why would she be found there? Why did she go there? The essence of this story and film is mystery. So explaining is the last thing you want to do. Otherwise, you dissolve the impact.
So glad Peter decided not to use it.
I really do like this scene and I think it’s possibly the best alternate ending I’ve ever seen, but overall I agree with you.
I think this is/would've been maybe the most affecting and genuinely frightening scene in the movie. A bit on the nose sure but imo still in line with everything prior. But maybe better as a deleted scene i agree
Only this is how the book ended, and would have been much more fitting in my opinion. The original film ended way too abruptly in my opinion.
That was horrifying, I loved it! But I’m glad that is not the ending. The wholly ambiguous ending of Picnic at hanging rock with Mrs Appleyard sitting packed and ready at the desk was terrifying too. The movie was really about the precarious and conventional world of Australia before the Great War and its place in the British Empire of Queen Victoria. They demanded certainty, what happens to that world when answers confound them.
For my two cents, my theory about what happened in the film to the girls is that the young man, colonel’s son followed the girls and perhaps approached them, rebuffing him he attacked them and kidnapped them and kept them hidden in one of the caverns or clinks in the mountain. Coming to his senses later but because of the alarm caused by the disappearance he couldn’t return. When he managed to go back to the rock to release them a week later all but one had died.
He was protected from real suspicion because of his class.
I thought about a more lovecraftian theory: the peak of the mountain, that always scared even the aboriginal people, is the home for some kind of creature or entity, that when seen by human beings sends them into a state of extreme distress and erases itself from their memory. While the first two girls and the teacher were hypnotised and "accepted" by the creature, the third girl, who was left behind (but was trying to catch up to the others) didn't manage to get to the peak in time, so the creature devoured the 2 girls and the teacher, but the third one was so unsettled by the sight of the monster, that she fainted and hit her head against a rock, too far for the creature to see her.
The fourth one instead(the one who came back screaming), saw all of it: she saw the girls being hypnotised, the creature emerging from the "red cloud", but not for enough time to faint or go insane, so she ran screaming down the rock.
The guy that searched for them and found the third one, instead got so shocked by the creature, that he couldn't talk or move, but, out of determination, he continued climbing, just to find the third girl still alive and bring her down, so that his friend would not have to see the monster to find the girl.
Then his friend came searching for him and found him and the girl, but did not venture far enough to see the creature.
In the end, when the other girl, Sara, dies, it is because she suicided, probably because of something she dreamed the night before.
And then the director of the school, who at the time already lost her mind, decided to commit suicid too,
by climbing the mountain and sacrificing herself to the monster, but due to her old age she didn't manage to get to the monster and fell on the rocks, dying.
This is my theory, there may be some flaws, but i think it is supported by the fact that the aboriginal people thought that evil spirits lived in the peak of the mountain, overall i like to think this is what happened, but i certainly liked more the ambiguity of the ending.
(english is not my first lenguage so please excuse any errors.)
@@The-priest-of-darkness you’re absolutely right about aboriginal mythology being vital to appreciating this film and the book. A recent republishing of the original book included a final chapter that had the girls taken to the spirit world. And growing up in the Australian bush, it’s sometimes a weird and unsettling landscape and my family loved telling ghost stories too, so the romantic in me finds that supernatural aspect of this film appealing! But I’m just having fun thinking of human explanation for the girls disappearance!
@@The-priest-of-darkness The actual explanation of what the women see is lovecraftian in nature, even bordering on First Nations mythology. But it isn’t a creature or entity at the top of the mountain. The mountain itself holds a spacial anomoly that seems to pull people in - in a second book “The Secret at Hanging Rock” has the unpublished book chapter that details what the women go through in their final moments.
Miranda discovers that between the craggy rocks, entering into the mountain itself, is a rift in the fabric of space. Together they muse over what could have caused such a beautiful mystery, before all somehow telepathically agreeing that they are now ready to enter. As they do, they transform into different creatures and slowly dissipate out of our universe, seemingly to ascend to another place entirely.
Their entire demeanour during this chain of events borders on enlightened, as if they somehow have esoteric knowledge that cannot be shared or explained to the reader. What we can assess is that the moment they climbed the mountain they were becoming enchanted (perhaps Miranda was more open minded than most) and that it served as a catalyst for falling under the rock’s spell.
As for how it relates to First Nations lore, I’m not best educated. I’m sure the ideas of becoming one with nature, particularly through death or transformation at a sacred site, are steeped in First Nations history. Would love to read more about that to be honest.
It's still ambiguous even with this ending tacked on. In some ways it might even be more ambiguous, depending on how you interpret it. I like the idea that the girls' disappearance casts doubt on the reality they all inhabit, or even the one we inhabit if you were one of the people who believed that this was based on a true (or true-ish) story. It's like a glitch in their particular matrix, and maybe even ours. Their vanishing makes no sense in the world the characters inhabit and yet it happened anyway. What lies outside of their reality is mystery, but it's possible the missing girls know. If this is the inner dream, then maybe they're in the outer dream or vice versa, or maybe something else entirely. We'll never know. The mystery of it and our being doomed to never find an explanation is the whole point. That's what makes it great.
Margaret Nelson (Sara) and Christine Schuller ( Edith) were wonderful
Michael and Albert also gave great.(performances (Dominic Guard and John Jarrett).
Did you know Edith's lines were apparently dubbed by another actor? Look up the Wiki about the film.
Margaret Nelson apparently has gone off the radar for many years. No one has been able to find her.
Interesting to see this footage as a film fan but can completely see why it was cut. Film is better without it.
A wonderful film! wish we could enjoy the full movie from start to end. Directors Cut, please....
The Directors cut was released in 1998 & to this day it's the only version available on DVD & BluRay. It cuts 7 minutes out of the film (unnecessary scenes that distracts from the story) & It doesn't use this ending. This alternate ending is now just a outtake/delete scene bonus feature.
To me it doesn't appear that Mrs Appleyard is searching for the girls. She has gone to the rock dressed in mourning clothes as though she were going to a funeral. Was her death a suicide over feelings of guilt for the death of Sara who comes to her in a vision?
I really thought so. She lost her mind over it, I assume.
In the book, she suddenly sees a vision of Sara, (a more horrific one of her corpse). She screams, runs and jumps from the precipice. You can interpret it either as a suicide, or a moment of sheer insanity where she's not in control of herself.
In the movie there is a short memorial service at a church, before the "missing, presumed dead" poster is shown, maybe that's why.
This actress had a sad death, in real life.
Which blu ray does this appear in please , it makes more sense that the standard ending.
The rocks were a time portal. The girls were transported forward across more than a hundred years and ended up running a Bubble Chai franchise in Coober Pedy. Surely everyone knows that?
They were taken by ETs and they will return at earth's darkest hour to save us