Investing Prudently In Perilous Times w/ Guy Spier (RWH023)

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  • William Green chats with renowned hedge fund manager Guy Spier. He explains how he’s positioning his portfolio to survive & prosper in these perilous times, & he shares practical advice on how to maintain equanimity amid all this uncertainty.
    IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:00 - How living in a calm & predictable environment helps Guy Spier to invest better.
    00:09:42 - How he resisted the temptation to buy overvalued tech stocks during the recent bubble.
    00:24:57 - Why we must beware of the psychological effects of rapidly rising or falling stock prices.
    00:29:18 - Why Guy refuses to invest in any business that can’t fund all of its growth internally.
    00:40:11 - How going to Berkshire Hathaway’s annual meeting helps to reinforce rational behavior.
    00:50:34 - What Warren Buffett told Guy Spier & Mohnish Pabrai about the perils of debt.
    01:01:35 - Why Guy regards the war in Ukraine as a potentially systemic threat to investors.
    01:11:09 - Why he’s invested heavily in China, despite the political & economic dangers.
    01:11:20 - Where he’s investing in order to survive & prosper in these times of heightened risk.
    01:13:39 - Why he’s avoiding weaker countries, including Indonesia & the Philippines.
    01:14:54 - How he wrestles with the tricky question of whether to trim or hold his winners.
    01:19:34 - How he constructs a portfolio that helps him to maintain his emotional equilibrium.
    01:26:52 - Why he’ll never short another stock.
    01:44:14 - Why he diverged from Mohnish on the risks & rewards of investing in Turkey.
    01:58:19 - What Guy & Mohnish have learned from the stunning success of their friend Li Lu.
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  • @WeStudyBillionaires
    @WeStudyBillionaires  ปีที่แล้ว +6

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    • @depreciatingasset
      @depreciatingasset ปีที่แล้ว

      Elite capture at its best. His infatuation with ccp leadership is funny. Divorced from any facts, evidence or reality. He has to lick the boot or he loses everything

  • @anahitakatrak5995
    @anahitakatrak5995 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Always a pleasure to listen to Mr. Guy Spier.

    • @WeStudyBillionaires
      @WeStudyBillionaires  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for watching!

    • @depreciatingasset
      @depreciatingasset ปีที่แล้ว

      Elite capture at its best. His infatuation with ccp leadership is funny. Divorced from any facts, evidence or reality. He has to lick the boot or he loses everything

  • @clevergamer6704
    @clevergamer6704 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the background and Guy Spier's analogies

  • @AS-yg5dt
    @AS-yg5dt ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great interview - your friendship and warmth comes through - love the wide ranging, long form format. Bravo 👍🏽

  • @arangotan
    @arangotan ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you William. Thank you Guy. I can’t hear enough of this.

  • @rod7407
    @rod7407 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love hearing Guy and his steady philosophy of life and investing. William is perhaps the best interviewer I've listened to as he always knows what to ask and how to structure the questioning such that it's much more than a "how to invest" series. William's book "Richer, Wiser, Happier" is one of my all time favorites as he not only gets into how these individuals think and invest but more importantly how it reconciles with how they actually live. Well done William, Investor's podcast is lucky to have you.

    • @WilliamGreenRicherWiserHappier
      @WilliamGreenRicherWiserHappier ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many thanks, Rod -- that's very kind of you to say. I really appreciate it. Warm wishes, William

    • @value_investing
      @value_investing ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agreed 👍

    • @depreciatingasset
      @depreciatingasset ปีที่แล้ว

      Elite capture at its best. His infatuation with ccp leadership is funny. Divorced from any facts, evidence or reality. He has to lick the boot or he loses everything

  • @enriquebecerra9542
    @enriquebecerra9542 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great conversation between 2 friends. You need to do one with Guy asking William questions, for example on the track record of +20 years interviewing investors, the journalistic process, plus expanding observations from his great Richer, Wiser book.
    (Update: Oooops I wrote this as I was listening at the 90min mark, and now that we get to the end its actually Guy asking William :,)

  • @PhillCurtis
    @PhillCurtis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Facinating having guy ask you a question, ive followed you william for what for me seems a long time. But to hear you discussing your reinvention. Its great to hear.

  • @tulipmania4923
    @tulipmania4923 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    These guys are legendary.
    Great interview

  • @atulkhanna3277
    @atulkhanna3277 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guy and William's generosity is amazing to share their time and knowledge. THANK YOU🙏

    • @WeStudyBillionaires
      @WeStudyBillionaires  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you found it valuable! Thanks for watching. 🙏

  • @highestranked
    @highestranked ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Need to watch this more than once

  • @giuseppeo77
    @giuseppeo77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent interview! Thank you William and Guy for this! Take good care of you.😉

    • @WeStudyBillionaires
      @WeStudyBillionaires  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our pleasure! Thank you so much for watching.

  • @allanpickett9419
    @allanpickett9419 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Richer, Wiser, Happier #2 🎉

  • @LearningWithAnishSrinivas
    @LearningWithAnishSrinivas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you TIP, William and Guy.

  • @omveee13
    @omveee13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great interview & insights

  • @ht5095
    @ht5095 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loving William’s RM Williams boots :)
    Great convo as always

  • @PhillCurtis
    @PhillCurtis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you both, that really helped me

  • @Ljcoleslaw
    @Ljcoleslaw ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was great. Nice work.

  • @AndrewShelton1
    @AndrewShelton1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extremely talented interviewer. I enjoyed listening to this.

  • @jonathanmahenge8263
    @jonathanmahenge8263 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always great listening to Guy Spier!. Insightful conversation.

  • @volig
    @volig ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome interview

  • @robwolfe6120
    @robwolfe6120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice one guys. Thank you both. When I saw William had joined forces with TIP a year or two ago I was floored. As if Michael Jordan suddenly appeared on a college final 4 team in 1995... Supercharging a unit that's already performing at a very high level.

  • @arunbarik9255
    @arunbarik9255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant, thank you for this ❤

  • @jamieb8046
    @jamieb8046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! Enjoyed listening to Mr. Spier.

  • @alexlucassen8489
    @alexlucassen8489 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Avouding mistakes is also an important part of investing.

  • @dailyfinance101
    @dailyfinance101 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Remarkable ! Well done you two, I ❤ it.

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry985 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting interview. As a retail investor on the other end of portfolio size (sub 1 million), I appreciate the concepts in thinking.

  • @QualitativeInvestor
    @QualitativeInvestor ปีที่แล้ว +4

    William Green is a gem!!!

  • @Pikia666
    @Pikia666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This goes on repeat for the next year

  • @KaRe77
    @KaRe77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting and deep dialog! Thanks!

  • @RolfStumpfRailMedia
    @RolfStumpfRailMedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You had me at USM 😅 The stuff is kidsproof as well.

  • @silentseekerYT
    @silentseekerYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant, really enjoyed this

  • @kikolatulipe
    @kikolatulipe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As usual , awesome interview! I want the chair :-)

  • @ericthornberg3136
    @ericthornberg3136 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Set & Forget"

  • @BradKaellner
    @BradKaellner ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Success and failure... treat those two imposters just the same. One step in front of the other.

  • @buildmybalancesheet2554
    @buildmybalancesheet2554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great interview thank you so much - could not help noticing the Zohar book on the table - the book that holds all the answers

  • @JC-ed9yi
    @JC-ed9yi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow, thank you!

  • @amirsiddique8694
    @amirsiddique8694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know what books are placed on the table?

    • @RicherWiserHappier
      @RicherWiserHappier ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Zohar is at the top of the pile. It's an ancient Kabbalistic book written in Aramaic. This edition includes an English translation. I tend to dip into it most days and to keep it on my desk when I write anything or do interviews. Guy and I read a bit of it before we started the conversation, which is also what we did when we worked together on his book. Warm wishes, William

  • @Restecpa
    @Restecpa ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anybody know where those chairs are from? They look so comfortable!

  • @anatomyandphysics
    @anatomyandphysics ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful.

  • @jaspier8439
    @jaspier8439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:19:34 for a view outside

  • @mmm-cake
    @mmm-cake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice

  • @joeriley8817
    @joeriley8817 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m confused. Warren told guy that he doesn’t want to find out what he’s capable of when getting into debt. But Warren used a significant amount of debt in his partnership days. Even Charlie munger used some debt when buying Alibaba .

  • @lok2974
    @lok2974 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching this after the (near) collapse of Credit Suisse and here he is praising Switzerland as a a solid investment choice :- ))

  • @ajayalmighty
    @ajayalmighty ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic interview. I've been a fan of Guy since I read his book years ago, but I just don't get how he's a fund manager. Perhaps it's because he's so self aware, but it comes across to me tha he has such extreme behavioural limitations.

  • @sebfox2194
    @sebfox2194 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In relation to the point made by Guy at 1:07:17, I don't think that it was a good idea to issue an arrest warrant against Putin for crimes against humanity right now. Has he committed them? Maybe? But from a pragmatic standpoint, did "the West" really want to escalate this conflict into one where Putin is backed into a corner, and his only options as an individual are to fight, or to die/accept life in prison? Once this step was taken, it was no longer possible to negotiate peace with Putin, because it equated to "the West" deciding that the only way this can end is via his demise, and I doubt he will be too keen to agree with that. Therefore, his only real option right now is to keep on fighting.

    • @maddysydney
      @maddysydney ปีที่แล้ว

      How about calling all US presidents as war criminals given the number of regimes toppled, number of leaders targeted or actually killed or any number of things?

  • @ryanbaileyboxing
    @ryanbaileyboxing ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28:00

  • @alexanderbauer8759
    @alexanderbauer8759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obviously Schmidt encourages start ups spending insane amounts of money on customer acquisition to boost Google Ads.

  • @Kevin-eg6vg
    @Kevin-eg6vg ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad opsec on password security

  • @thetjt
    @thetjt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting interview.
    Although I have to note that the question: 'you have 10% of your portfolio as cash - why are you so cautious' ... has zero connection with retail investors who simply can not lose all their capital. In that sense a billionaire talking how anxious he is when 50% down seems rather ridiculous.

  • @Coondawgwoopwoop
    @Coondawgwoopwoop ปีที่แล้ว

    God I’m scared to know how many traders use Warren buffet as their password…

  • @palestineViper
    @palestineViper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:47:20 What about the history of the Nakba that is suppressed by israel? 500 Palestinian towns wiped out of earth's surface? half of the Palestinians thrown out of their homes and homeland? Israel is still trying to conquer the rest of Palestine establishing an apartheid, but Guy is in love with Israel

  • @annasillanpaa1111
    @annasillanpaa1111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't see that "property rights" are important in the West. For example, in WWII the properties of the judes where confiscated, women's inheritance rights have been ignored/not respected/ circumvented and still are in even Western countries, etc.

  • @erlendolsen7172
    @erlendolsen7172 ปีที่แล้ว

    fred who?

  • @rowanwood5397
    @rowanwood5397 ปีที่แล้ว

    People thought there is no way Putin will invade Ukraine because he would destroy his economy if he did so.
    When I hear Guy speak about China, I hear a similar perception.
    People think China will not make war with Taiwan and the US because it will destroy their economy.
    But Putin's invasion of Ukraine suggests that dictators are often crazy with overconfidence.
    I won't touch anything directed intertwined with Chinese economics.
    I think it is a huge mistake because the risk to reward ratio on such investments is generally not good.

  • @Kevin-eg6vg
    @Kevin-eg6vg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guy just made the case for a 1% bitcoin holding without even knowing it 😂

  • @BirdTrainingClub
    @BirdTrainingClub ปีที่แล้ว

    Also if Guy is driving 35 in a 50km speed limit. And the road is dry.. then he’s going to severely limiting your investment potential

  • @lorenzmuller3542
    @lorenzmuller3542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Valuation ignored, name the companies you think are of the highest quality, no investment advice. Mine are: LEGO, Rolex, Motorola, elevator companies such as Otis or Kone, Madison Square Garden Entertainment.

    • @templogical3095
      @templogical3095 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you think OTIS is great, if you dont mind sharing.

    • @lorenzmuller3542
      @lorenzmuller3542 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@templogical3095 You have to think for yourself to make investment decisions but it's an oligopoly with a great and durable servicing segment.

  • @alldaywhodie
    @alldaywhodie ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could be there the moment Guy Spier does a deep dive on Origin Materials $ORGN... Would be magical.

  • @teacherrussell5206
    @teacherrussell5206 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did he say that his wife lived a structured life despite the fact that she was Mexican?

    • @luisflorencio4138
      @luisflorencio4138 ปีที่แล้ว

      8:28

    • @luisrodrigopadilla3338
      @luisrodrigopadilla3338 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HATED that comment, like there arent any Mexicans with a structured life

    • @teacherrussell5206
      @teacherrussell5206 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@luisrodrigopadilla3338 That's what it sounded like, but I wanted a second set of ears to verify it for me. Very strange.. If that's what he really said, that's messed up, and I hope he got a Mexican foot up his ass when he got home😁

  • @anthonygirton8374
    @anthonygirton8374 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a big Robinhood guy, huh? 😂

  • @sociolocomtsac
    @sociolocomtsac ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kissinger has been wrong on so many levels. Why is this guy talking about geopolitics, which he knows very little about? Stick to investing and stick to what you know (like buffett teaches).

  • @jimjackson4256
    @jimjackson4256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Greene has an apple computer.How pretentious is that.

  • @BirdTrainingClub
    @BirdTrainingClub ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are they wearing shoes in the house? Still an element of ego - which any future investors with Guy should be aware of!

  • @zjxn06
    @zjxn06 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done William!
    Great interviews are often the result of the one conducting the interview. That is certainly the case here. Guy seems so comfortable with you. As a result he seems more open to share more about who he is as a human. How wonderful to have a friend like Guy Spier. More importantly, how you two have each been there to walk with each other through the dark valleys.
    As a fellow "scatter brain", I can relate to Guy's wanting to live in a quiet orderly place and his need for predictability and quality. Parallels between Swizerland/Swiss businesses and Berkshire Hathaway culture and business philosophy.
    zjxn06
    (typing alone from a room in my house nestled high (3,000m) in the Colorado mountains)🙂
    Pascal: “All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”