10-8 Performance Lab, Episode 6: STI Staccato P 2011, Tech Talk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2019
- Some technical talking points about the STI Staccato P 2011, including the composition of the internal parts, frame dimensions vs Glock, being successful with the STI, and a PSA for new 2011 owners.
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As a new 2011 owner (Stacatto P), I totally appreciate all your info/faq/tips! Your passion for these high-end guns reflects in the quality of your videos/info!
Hilton great explanation on why you shouldn't drop the slide on an empty chamber with a 1911/2011.
I'm getting a staccato P tomorrow. Thanks for the info about not dropping the slide home on a empty chamber. I had no idea, never thought of that.
Most refreshing and informative new channel on the web.
My Stacatto C is such a fantastic pistol. It's my first STI and I wish I would have tried one sooner. I'm definitely going to get a P-Duo next. The reliability and accuracy is just top notch.
Love your content Hilton. Especially interesting because I am planning on purchasing a Staccato P 9mm or something from the DVC line. I can't wait to hear more. Thank you!
As always another great video!
Definitely want to get one now. Thanks for the video Hilton!
Boy, the parts about 1) training with the rest of the class using 15 round (plus) mags (Glocks, et al) and 2) the wear over the years of shooting 45’s is exactly where I’m at. Plus, 9 has become the standard issue, so it just makes sense. But I’m having a difficult time giving up my 1911... “the answer”. Thanks for this series.
Great comparisons. Glad to see this from a user who understands medium sized hands.
Great fact full and mature presentations from someone who knows his business- no Circus!
Awesome video been looking at the 2011s as of late, specifically in 9mm, passed 40 now the .45acp although great does for sure take a toll on you unfortunately.
Great videos. I have a Staccato P and C on order through a LF group buy, and I'm local to you (Fort Lauderdale). Will be training with you as soon as I get them. BTW Nick and Santos say hello.
Very good video
Great Videos 👍
Thank you for the excellent insights, Sir... especially to NOT drop the slide without chambering a round. I did not know that!
I guess he means on 2011 vs 1911 how you going to practice dry fire? then you cant use a cool fire trainer either is way your saying?
Hey, thanks for that tip about NOT releasing the slide on an empty chamber for a 1911/2011! I hadn’t heard that before.
I have the Edge it was a pain on the gen 1 mags now I have the gen 2 and it’s running good.
My favorite gun I own. Sold my p229 legion sao and a Glock 19 w/ rmr to get it. No regrets
Thank you for these videos, I'm serious considering switching to this for a duty carry handgun from a gen 5 G34 MOS w/RMR06. Will you be considering making any parts for this handgun? Id love a 10-8 trigger flat trigger for this.
working on a number of parts/accessories, stay tuned!
Hilton, what are your thoughts on Les Baer 1911??
I'm a lefty so that mag release looks like something I need
Is that an older model P because of its full size rail ? One’s being produced within the 6mo to a year only have one rail slot. Is it an aftermarket modular grip or is it from the factory?
I absolutely love my staccato p so far. I just want a more aggressive grip texture for it. Where did you find that particular grip frame?
CRYMTZ I made it. You can contact our friends at Boresight Solutions if you want your frame textured.
Black and stainless hex?
Can I order a lower blank grip to send out to get it custom stippled?
Crafted Ballistics Sorry no, but you can get work done by our friends at Boresight Solutions.
Hilton, what are your thoughts on using “aftermarket” magazines with Staccato? I ask because I have a brand new Staccato C DUO, and I’m considering the Wilson Combat 9 round magazines. These would be my “EDC” magazines. I love the idea of the little additional length, and increased magazine capacity. Thanks brother! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Matthew Kane The C is just a 1911 derivative so any quality mag will work. The Wilson ETM’s are top quality and would be fine.
Hilton, great video...... so you prefer the magwell removed? Is there any issues that arise with the magwell off from a shooting standpoint?
The mag well adds bulk and I'm trying to see how I do without it so that I can try to carry it once holsters arrive. Reloads are still quite fast, and my hands don't even touch down by the bottom of the frame so I don't notice it's gone.
@@108Performance thanks for the info. I have 3X hands with long fingers and not sure if the magwell will interfere. I requested a T&E model.
Are you ISO 9001 certified? I see unlabeled bins.
How long can one expect the tight frame to slide fit to last with regular shooting?
Depends a lot on ammo, lube/cleaning of gun, initial fit of the gun. Slide/frame fit is largely a feel and prestige thing, it doesn't really affect accuracy or function in a meaningful way (on a properly built gun).
In this video you are talking about the "P" but does the all machined tool steel components (no MIM or cast) apply to all the Staccatos? I am asking the question late since I just got a limited edition C2 and am also looking at getting an XC. Appreciate and enjoy your videos.
All of the Staccato models are built the same - 100% USA machined parts. Thanks for watching!
@@108Performance thank you for your response.
What about Dan Wesson they have all machined parts at a similar and lower price point depending on model and finish.
Wish they made one in a .40 that would be really cool
How would you recommend dry fire training with these guns? Would that destroy the tolerances over time even using good quality snap caps? Just curious because some day I’d like to pick one of these up.
No need to use snap caps. Dry fire away as much as you’d like. At the height of my training, I figure I’m getting 10 or more dry fire reps on the gun for every live round fired. Not cleaning/lubing the gun does far more wear than dry fire.
108Performance awesome, thanks for the tip!I’ve sub’d to your channel and I’m learning a lot from your videos. Keep churning out the great work!
Is an aluminum flat trigger for 2011's coming from 10-8?\
Some form of high quality flat trigger option is in the works, can't speak to it much further as yet.
Do you make sights that fit this gun?
topgunpilot20 soon
Is the the new Staccato XC made to the same quality standards as the Staccato P?
Yes, all the guns are made to the same standards, in the same facility right in Texas. No shortcuts are taken on any of the guns in the line.
Is the Staccato P changing your opinion on 9mm 1911s?
Sneed Collins not quite as a 9mm 1911 is heavier than the 2011, holds half as many rds, and requires careful mag selection.
I wonder how the Stacatto stacks up next to the Dan Wesson DWX
Well one is in production and readily available, the other doesn’t exist.
@@108Performance You are correct that has become a major disappointment to those interested in DWX
I hate to say this but the Staccato is not really hand fit. Particularly in the very important fire control system. (Hammer/Sear, disconnector, trigger bow. Yes they are put in by hand, as all 1911's are regardless of cost or manufacturer unless someone uses robotics to do it. Not likely, but even though the are tool steel parts, (Hammer/Sear) they are not fitted. No dressing of the engagement surfaces whatsoever.
Very disappointing to find this in Staccato's at such an elevated price point. I would love to see them take the time and effort building their guns as they do putting in the time and effort of blatant advertising on the tube. I've never seen such an intense marketing campaign before. Hundreds of vid's on them, many guns given for the review. Fishy to say the least!
If you are knowledgeable in 1911/2011 type platforms and finish the work they skipped, the warranty is now void. Borders on slimy to down right crooked!
KnifeMaker
Brah
Good stuff
What kind of 9mm SD Ammo do you run in your staccatos?
Thanks 🇺🇸🦾
Speer Gold Dot 2 147gr or Hornady Critical Duty 135gr +P.