10-8 Performance Lab, Episode 20: The 1911/2011 On Duty
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance discusses the basic why/how of using a 1911/2011 for duty/CCW applications.
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Guitar shred by Hilton Yam
Hilton is the founder and owner of 10-8 Performance, and is also the Field Director of the 2011 Operational User and Armorer Program for STI Firearms.
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Really glad I’ve found this channel. I’m investing in a Staccato P Duo and C2 Duo later this year, because of how reliable they’ve become. I’ve owned 2011 and 1911s for years, and the biggest 2011 turn off was the crappy mags... I’m glad that STI has devoted itself to duty grade pistol manufacturing; I think it’s definitely given new life to a wonderful platform. Hell, look at how many SWAT teams, etc, really good ones, are getting into the platform again! Thanks brother.
Bottom line: a 1911 style trigger is second to none.
Timers and targets are telling the tale as to why so many of us have gone to a 2011.
I've carried a 1911 on duty for years now, and this is the best video I've seen explaining every aspect as to why (or why not) one should do so...Thanks for the time you put into these!
Great video, thanks for the information.
Wow really like what you had to say , thank you . Honestly will get you far . I just subscribe.... hit the nail on the head in many areas ...
Damn, Dude. Been a long time. I just found this channel. Subscribed.
Regards,
Marky
Liked, subscribed, ordered the DVD.
Have you done a video on gen 1 staccato C compact ?
Love your videos. Funny..DVD is as old as the 1911. Only kidding . Lol
More videos like this!
Were can I get a grip lke the prodigy
🇺🇸 Nice guitar intro.
Great content, looking to purchase a Staccato P, I like to the lower 1/3 rear sight for the RMR, any recommendations for purchase, leaning toward Dawson Precision
Charles Bayles The entire DUO system, including the sights, are from Dawson Precision and are unique dovetails. As far as I know there are no replacement options for those. Stay tuned for some options coming from 10-8....
Do you still have the 2019 Staccato p duo? If so I would like to purchase it from you. I’m trying to gift it to my brother who just came home from the army.
I own several stroker fire pistols and a berratta..none of them can come close to my 1911 and my staccato P.2011 trigger...best way to say it is AWSOME.TRIGGERS
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Hilton what do you recommend for reloads on a staccato p, what grain functions better on this platform if any? Thank you for all the great vids!
My guns like round nose 115/124 the best, but I only shoot factory.
I’m running a metric ton of Montana gold 124 JHP under warm loads of N-340 for minor and HS-6 for major. Staccato P ate them all up and stays super clean also.
I have the 2020 Staccato P and it is my favorite gun. Reliable and accurate. I just need to find a holster for it now.
Longs shadow crestone l2
Love mine for my staccato p
I want one so bad. I have the Stacaato C that I carry, do you carry the P?
Jay Macklin Yeah. I got a holster made at a local gun show and I’ve been carrying my Staccato P for a few weeks now. I rotate it out with a few HK pistols I have but it’s definitely the most accurate gun I own.
What would you recommend for a good Level II or Level III duty holster.
would you ever recommend the bul armory 2011s or the acw quantico for duty use. I like the traditional looks of those guns as opposed to the race car aesthetics of the staccato and wilson combats. I feel like if Im going to carry a 1911 then it has to look like a traditional 1911 because its symbolic and professional.
The Bul is an untested quantity, a lower priced imported gun with MIM small parts. The ACW is a high priced one off custom build from a small shop. In the end you can choose whatever you want, but I recommend the Staccato or Wilsons because of the size of their operation - which equates to a lot more guns built and available, better warranty support, and in the case of Staccato, being the actual manufacturer of critical items like the slide/frame, magazines, and grip modules.
Hi , I have a staccato XC and I’m having a hard time finding a holster for it have any suggestions??? Thanks
Larry reel Ality sportfishing charters Conley Try LAS Concealment and Long’s Shadow Holsters.
Good morning! I had trouble finding your old article on this subject. I'm assuming some of your thoughts have evolved, however if I remember correctly some of your points about logistics are the same. Have you considered creating a text on the subject, maybe an E-book?
Thank you
Oliver Allen The articles from the site were extremely dated, and many referenced items which haven’t existed for over a decade. These videos serve as a more updated method of getting the most current info out.
Mr. Yam, great video. I have a few followup questions. 1. With the improved Gen 2 magazines, do you see these gen 2 double stack magazines as more reliable than the latest generation of single-stack 9mm 1911 magazines? 2. Do you see current top quality 2011's as being as reliable as Glocks now without requiring much more maintenance, or do you think the average person should still consider staying in the striker world unless they have a much more dedicated mentality to maintenance? (In the past it seemed that you felt this wasn't the case.) 3. Are the new Gen 2 magazines needing tuning over time?
Ghutz Harbinger 1) I haven’t tested the newer single stack 9mm mags, no time and little interest right now. The ones I used before were mostly a headache. 2) Reliable as a Glock is a tough term - if you shoot 2-3000 rds out of each, cleaning them every 500-1000 rds and lubing them, both will go off 2-3000 times without incident....so sure. If we’re talking about ignoring maintenance and setup...the Glock is much more forgiving, at the expense of the higher end of performance - a stock Glock is not in the same ball park as a new STI in terms of trigger, accuracy, and recoil mitigation. 3) As I said in the video, when mags start needing attention past new springs, get new mags.
@@108Performance I vaguely remember reading a comment by Larry Vickers many years ago where he stated if you treat your gun like you treat your lawn mower, buy a Glock. I'm sure that could now be applied to almost all striker fired pistols...
my fellow deputy just sold me an older sti .45 double stack. your opinion on changing the full length guide rod with the hole to a dawson or something you carry? thanks awesome content
First thing is to get some Gen2 mags. If it's a bushing barrel model either a 10-8 plug and GI length spring guide or the Dawson Tool-less rod (full length captured) would be better, just depends which format you prefer.
@@108Performance i carry a trp now and it came with the tool-less....makes all the world difference. thanks for the info...
I hear aftec extractors are the answer to many 1911 problems. Do you have any experience with them?
Garrett Morrison Aftec extractors remove the loss of tension issues, but only solve problems if you install and tune them properly from the start. They are not just a drop in fix. They help, but are not the be all end all.
OK going to comment for a second time really want some straight up feedback please , why would I want an STI over the new Dan Wesson/CZ carry that’s coming out this year ? I own many guns , do not like to change up my CCW though. Been wanting to for at least 6 months now . Was set on the new DWX carry ... leaning now to the new STI Thanks
CZ 1always I may be biased but STI. It’s tested and has holster options. DWX is new, untested, also no aftermarket support right now.
Hilton, do you see any concern with shooting a lot of +P ammo through a Staccato P?
goatmurray None at all, the gun is still over built for those. You could go to the heavier spring (get the Dawson Tool-Less guide rod, they also have the light/standard/heavier spring sets) if you’re shooting +P exclusively.
Can you describe how to change the recoil springs on the new Staccatos? What size spring with the 4.4 barrel?
Just order the springs from Dawson Precision. I'll talk about springs in a video very shortly.
108Performance awesome. Thanks. Do you think production will catch up to the demand by the end of the year? Hard to find a duo at the moment...
@@Saint0fPain Well the pickle is that demand keeps ramping up as well....the factory is taking all possible steps to increase production without compromising quality.
Good evening, I just got my staccato p duo but I would like to change out the trigger to a flat face like yours, since your company sell parts can you help?
We don’t sell the STI triggers nor do we offer gunsmithing, sorry. However, check out our site for what we make for the 2011.
@@108Performance thank you
Where are you getting the latest 2011 mags for 50 bucks? 69.99 everywhere I look.
Hilton, when can we expect to see 10-8 Springfields becoming available again? I would like to switch out from my TRP Operator to the same spec/platform you show here. I have never really been a fan of an adjustable rear sight.
Bryan de Klerk That wasn’t a 10-8 Springfield in the video, it was one of the guns built and featured in my Panteao 1911 Duty Tune video. It started as a Range Officer Operator model - nice base gun. The last run of 10-8 SA’s was many years ago and won’t be happening again.
@@108Performance Rgr, been pining for one. Appreciate the feedback. Thank you. 👍
@@Sierra_Tango_5 There's one on Gunbroker right now. Pricey tho...
Set up an saved search on the gun auction sites with email notification. Gunbroker allows this.
@@davesafirellc Rgr! Thanks. Will have to look when I get home from work.
I know Safariland is working on them, but what's the current level 3 holsters that will fit one of these for those of us on patrol?
Longbow072 longshadow makes a duty holster for the STI. They are listed on the STI site but best to go directly to manufacturer site and order. I am running that one on duty and like it. Plus the company is veteran owned and operated. Takes 8 ish weeks. Tier 1 concealed also makes one. I have a few of their holsters for other platforms. Well built holsters. Either one works well with rmr or without and with or without lights. Plus both are built to use with all of the current mounting platforms so you can attach to your current rig
Not when policy states it must be a Safariland for Patrol, which I'm fine with. I'm actually really surprised they didn't have offers available this year.
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Longbow072 Safariland has been dragging their feet....they delivered prototypes which are good to go, but it’s been 6 months and they still haven’t given a release date. I’ve also used the RDS holster for the M&P 5” CORE, it fits the STI and locks in place. It took me 4 months to get. Blackhawk’s T Series is going to become a serious contender (no really)....see my Ep19 video from SHOT.
True, but the BH won't be an option tell it gets its time in the sun and testing to boot, so SF is the option for us coppers. I've also heard about the MP Core fitting and I wonder if it fits the 2020 version with the slightly longer slide vs the 2019.
My ALS for my G34 Gen 5 MOS with RDS took about the same timeframe... ridiculous. I'm STILL waiting on armor ordered in November.
Oh well, I'll be picking up a 2020 Stac P HOST, hard part will come down to deciding it buying the CORE holster will be worth the wait with no idea's when the legit holsters will be available. They aren't cheap.
Been carrying a 2011 9mm on duty for nearly 15 years. If set up correctly, I believe they are every bit as reliable as any Glock. Get an aftec extractor. Get an Aluminum frame to save weight if your old like me. I have not had any problems with stock gen 1 STI mags.
todd kunz What I was trying to convey is that the new STI’s are already set up correctly, vs having to go through as much work as with a stock 1911 and hope you did it right. You also might be the anomaly with Gen1 STI mags, glad they work for you.
I have a P. I’ve had 3 magazine related failures in the first 500 rounds.
Contact the factory for a warranty ticket.
I must say that I'm an sti fan but all I keep is frame barrel and slide all parts get replaced with egw 10-8 and wilson and nighthawk parts all gunsmith fit
Count Fagula You might want to take a harder look at the current guns vs the pre 2017 legacy guns before the Staccato line. The current lineup all have 10-8 slide stops and top quality machined internals.
@@108Performance fair enough I'll look into that I haven't bought one since the omni series stopped. They were great but left a little to be desired. I had sent them all out to atlas gunworks. I trust your opinion 100%. What pistol in the lineup do you recommend for a duty/ccw size in 45 acp of available in current linup?
Easy answer..... John Wick.
No really the trigger and ergos are awesome.
No luck with my 2 purchase of 1911 s in 9 mm . After every round it jams . Lots of trouble and expensive. Y do major manufacturers send their gun to stores when they know they don’t work . Even 2500 $ 1911 s. Have issues .
Just test the guns before u send them out .
None of them have serious quality control