Absolutely genius restricter plays bypass. I remember reading that Max Moseley (iirc) said something like engineers should be getting an award for the little cheat. Openly impressed.
Fun fact: these retailed for $99k NZD on release in NZ, but the release of the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV, with its retail price of $64,990 NZD, prompted Toyota to carve $30k off the price to sell it for $69k in NZ!
And now that car is on my driveway. Well, the standard version anyway. An st185 with a grey leather interior, Nakamichi stereo and a weird air purifier thingy on the roof lining. 136 off the production line...what a car.
Just purchased another one recently. A fully custom suspension, lowered with race spec breaks. Racing exhaust and roughly 510bhp. At 1.2 bar of boost. The car is nuts😂
Never had the chance to get my hands on one of those - but did once own the much less powerful non-turboed "twin" 1996 series 2 Celica - only had the 3S-FE 2.0L but was a manual... slightly improved with a few teaks here and there 😉 - but out of all the cars I've owned over the years - I actually really miss that one! ❤
@@ztikmaen I know! A lot of people were back in the day. All very similar in their own unique way. I like the coupe styling of the celica vs the lancer and Impreza sedans though
You should review a Caldina GT-T. Remember, they were only ever common (if that) in Japan, Russia, and here in NZ. Most people from outside of those 3 countries would've never even heard of them.
Great review, a real treat of a vid! Certainly an icon, and one of the really cool Japanese cars from the nineties. I can't say I've seen many in real life!
Great Video! I absolutely adore this car and plan to buy one soon, if the stars align xD You said @ 2:16, that 2500 Toyota st205 GT4s were made. However 2500 Homologation models were made in 1994, named Toyota Celica st205 GT4 WRC. The total of GT4s made is around 20.000 (I believe) from 1994 to 1999. The Homologation models (WRC) have all the plumbing required to activate the anti-lag system, a water spray bar and pump for the front intercooler and a basic water injection system from factory, which the other models don't come with from the factory. Not all 1994 made models are of the WRC variant. The 1997 variant you reviewed is the last facelift variant, which has some minor tweeks and a sturdier engine block.
This is correct. I was going to give the same correction if I didn't see it here. More detail: The ST205 chassis numbers are sequential, and the highest one is 0013380, so there were not more than 13,380 of them made, including the WRC editions. Since that's significantly below your 20,000 estimate I thought you might want to know. It also tapers off significantly towards the latter years. They made under 300 of them in the final 1999 year.
RE: Turbo lag, I'm told thats just a matter of driving the car differently. Rally drivers downshift early and blip the throttle a lot to keep the engine in the mid revs even when not using the power at the wheels, so that they are always in the power band. There's a skill to it.
Anti-car movement really strong these days! I'd try not to piss green people off, the chances of them getting their extreme policies taken seriously by governments in the future is too high.
Yeah it's a very confidence inspiring car. Video does make it appear I was going quicker though perhaps, was never getting close to traction limit, especially in a car that's not mine
That is absolutely not a stock turbocharger which is why boost comes on so late. I’ve been building these cars since they were still new from the factory. The factory W2A intercooler will support up to 500WHP.
Unfair comparison seeing as these got banned then toyota didn't compete until homologation rules were gone and they could rally the boring corolla. Also the first gc8 type ra with it's adjustable center diff was awesome. Evo 5 and 6 are my favorite evo for sure but the ayc wasn't a rally diff it was for the street
@@KiwiCarLife The CT20B looks very similar. Twin entry turbos have two snail "scroll" chambers and are usually called twin scroll. Yeah I thought all the time it was actually twin turbo as in legacy...
Love the car, but sadly those cheap guage n pod + big exhuast tip doesn't do a car like this justice...each to there own an appreciate they are keeping it on the road
Bmws are cool and all but unless they've been meticulously maintained they are 9 times out of 10 just buckets of problems over 130,000kms. Well since about 2007 anyway they were great before that.
@@junit7590 I think that applies to any performance car though. Naturally you’re buying a car that’s pushing the limits of technology so if it’s not been looked after then it’s going to be problem. So yeah buying any car that’s been well looked after is a good idea
Venting all the turbo pressure is nice theatrics...but causes turbolag once you put your foot down again, and run extremely rich because you vented metered air. Think also boost controller settings need work, because 4500rpm till boost on a the small factory turbo makes no sense, especially not on custom piping. Does it even use the MAP sensor, or is it just on "full send" mode and spraying and praying...
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Absolutely genius restricter plays bypass.
I remember reading that Max Moseley (iirc) said something like engineers should be getting an award for the little cheat. Openly impressed.
@@markmcgrath9098 it was very cleverly done for sure
Fun fact: these retailed for $99k NZD on release in NZ, but the release of the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV, with its retail price of $64,990 NZD, prompted Toyota to carve $30k off the price to sell it for $69k in NZ!
@@thatlldo4247 wow that’s wild!
Buying a GT4 next year. I’m so excited
@@steph4559 awesome!
that celica is iconic
@@burningknuckle26 it’s cool aye!
And now that car is on my driveway. Well, the standard version anyway.
An st185 with a grey leather interior, Nakamichi stereo and a weird air purifier thingy on the roof lining.
136 off the production line...what a car.
@@davidkirk6249 very nice!
Holy grail of all Celicas
Yesssss
once sat in the middle of the back seats from dun to chch and back had a sore neck for weeks.
Oh yeah that would be horrendous that's like a 4h drive haha
Those seats are for children and Japanese women only. Also, it’s not a 2 + 3.
@@negativeindustrial tool was playing chch 2001 we had to go.
aftermarket manifold and factory turbo not making boost till 4500??? boost control or tuning issue?
Yeah not really sure tbh
Yeah that does seem late. My friends old one would kick in earlier and it had a front mount intercooler with no aftermarket ecu on it lol.
That’s not a factory turbocharger. Factory turbochargers make 320WHP at 21PSI. That turbocharger flows much more air and takes far longer to spool.
Just purchased another one recently. A fully custom suspension, lowered with race spec breaks. Racing exhaust and roughly 510bhp. At 1.2 bar of boost. The car is nuts😂
How good! That must be a rocket
Never had the chance to get my hands on one of those - but did once own the much less powerful non-turboed "twin" 1996 series 2 Celica - only had the 3S-FE 2.0L but was a manual... slightly improved with a few teaks here and there 😉 - but out of all the cars I've owned over the years - I actually really miss that one! ❤
Very nice man!
Had a nz new ST205 WRC and it was stock . One of the most overlooked cars . Over engineered and massive brakes .
Loved mine while I had it .
@@andrewbryant8814 wow nz new! That’s epic
I'm curious which one you owned of the 5 ?
Fantastic review as always bro!
Thanks man!
loved your review on the handling because ive got the same, quicker steering superstrut suspension in my st202, and man they handle good!
They sure do! I was impressed
Next review: Mitsubishi Galant vr4.
2.5l
Twin turbo v6
5spd manual
AWD
Im also for it.. or normal version because vr4 is ultimately rare
That would be epic! 2.5L V6 turbo yes please
I love it,looking forward for this model in the future,,add to cart❤❤
Would recommend!
Sick man! I was test driving GT-Fours while cross shopping Evos and Subies :)
@@ztikmaen I know! A lot of people were back in the day. All very similar in their own unique way. I like the coupe styling of the celica vs the lancer and Impreza sedans though
You should review a Caldina GT-T. Remember, they were only ever common (if that) in Japan, Russia, and here in NZ. Most people from outside of those 3 countries would've never even heard of them.
@@bksniperguy I have reviewed the latest only auto one, but need to do a 90’s ST215
Mates Dad owns one here in Aus. 3SGTE goes hard and even as a wagon it handle quite well.
🤣🤣🤣 *_FLTHY 4_* … _beautiful plate, beautiful car 👏🏼👏🏼_ … _great review❤️_
@@thatguyben3128 thanks man!
Great review, a real treat of a vid! Certainly an icon, and one of the really cool Japanese cars from the nineties.
I can't say I've seen many in real life!
There's not many around for sure!
Wonderful coverage, absolutely love these cars and currently the car I’m saving up for.
Would recommend!
Great Video! I absolutely adore this car and plan to buy one soon, if the stars align xD
You said @ 2:16, that 2500 Toyota st205 GT4s were made. However 2500 Homologation models were made in 1994, named Toyota Celica st205 GT4 WRC. The total of GT4s made is around 20.000 (I believe) from 1994 to 1999. The Homologation models (WRC) have all the plumbing required to activate the anti-lag system, a water spray bar and pump for the front intercooler and a basic water injection system from factory, which the other models don't come with from the factory.
Not all 1994 made models are of the WRC variant.
The 1997 variant you reviewed is the last facelift variant, which has some minor tweeks and a sturdier engine block.
Ohhh true yes that makes more sense, we’ll blame Wikipedia for that one
This is correct. I was going to give the same correction if I didn't see it here. More detail: The ST205 chassis numbers are sequential, and the highest one is 0013380, so there were not more than 13,380 of them made, including the WRC editions. Since that's significantly below your 20,000 estimate I thought you might want to know. It also tapers off significantly towards the latter years. They made under 300 of them in the final 1999 year.
@@Synaps4 Oh thats good to know! Thank you for correcting the estimate with the actual numbers! :D
This is top tier content Liam! Love it!
@@kotukumacky3299 thanks man!
RE: Turbo lag, I'm told thats just a matter of driving the car differently. Rally drivers downshift early and blip the throttle a lot to keep the engine in the mid revs even when not using the power at the wheels, so that they are always in the power band. There's a skill to it.
Revs are dependant on speed too so naturally they’d be keeping the revs up because they’re travelling faster
@@KiwiCarLifeThe super long lag is because you should be opening the throttle in an lower gear
Awesome video mate really stepping it up! Fun little car too
@@Drifty325i thanks man!
FInally a real car haha
Don't forget to mention the 38mm wastegate!
Solid review.
@@Chimpieyo thanks man!
I think the lag wsa due to the turbo change. I drove with the sock porgram setup and I don't feel any turbo lag (very gradual)..
Yeah that would make sense, or the tune. Chasing peak numbers rather than smooth, useable power delivery?
I’ve always wanted an ST 205. Really cool cars! Also at 4:30 please send this clip to green peace just to piss them off haha!
Anti-car movement really strong these days! I'd try not to piss green people off, the chances of them getting their extreme policies taken seriously by governments in the future is too high.
They're epic aye and yes just for you I will
Pretty surprised how hard u were punting on the damp roads. Clearly handles great
Yeah it's a very confidence inspiring car. Video does make it appear I was going quicker though perhaps, was never getting close to traction limit, especially in a car that's not mine
These are better than top gear episodes
@@oscarnuku2820 haha I will never compare myself to top gear but it’s a standard I strive to!
The AWD turbo beast
Yessss
How does it compare to your M3 in terms of acceleration?
@@LastChanceFossil oh MUCH slower haha mainly coz it take ages to build boost
@@KiwiCarLife how wonderful to compare and congrats on the house!
next review my mazda familia GT-R anther great rally car of the celica era
@@lukeburnside6033 ooh yes send me an email kiwicarlife@icloud.com I’m keen!
That is absolutely not a stock turbocharger which is why boost comes on so late. I’ve been building these cars since they were still new from the factory. The factory W2A intercooler will support up to 500WHP.
Or just a bad tune?
Who put the GT-FOUR stickers on the spoiler? Michael J Fox?
@@Gdsamplify I think it might have been repainted and then they had to be stuck back on coz yeah they’re super wonky HAHA
The owner has new replacement stickers to which he hasn't got around to installing 😁
the EVO 5 and EVO 6 take the crown as the greatest homologation rally cars
@@thesulo12 evos are a dime a dozen I’d rather have something interesting like this
Unfair comparison seeing as these got banned then toyota didn't compete until homologation rules were gone and they could rally the boring corolla. Also the first gc8 type ra with it's adjustable center diff was awesome. Evo 5 and 6 are my favorite evo for sure but the ayc wasn't a rally diff it was for the street
The gt4 was originally twin turbo so did he go single turbo instead?
Gt4 was never twin turbo
I think you must be mistaking “twin entry turbo” for twin turbo. These were only ever single turbo. It was the supra that was twin
@@KiwiCarLife The CT20B looks very similar. Twin entry turbos have two snail "scroll" chambers and are usually called twin scroll. Yeah I thought all the time it was actually twin turbo as in legacy...
Love the car, but sadly those cheap guage n pod + big exhuast tip doesn't do a car like this justice...each to there own an appreciate they are keeping it on the road
Yeah I think a lot of the stuff in this one he bought it like that. Hasn't had it too long
Yota lovely car that would benefit from lots of tlc & a modern small turbo so no lag. I cant believe the price for BMW 135i N55 cars DCT M
Yeah or just a retune perhaps. And yeah you can get an N55 135i for like 15k, and surprisingly the newer M135i is even cheaper
Bmws are cool and all but unless they've been meticulously maintained they are 9 times out of 10 just buckets of problems over 130,000kms. Well since about 2007 anyway they were great before that.
@@junit7590 I think that applies to any performance car though. Naturally you’re buying a car that’s pushing the limits of technology so if it’s not been looked after then it’s going to be problem. So yeah buying any car that’s been well looked after is a good idea
The celica did cheat the restriction plate, very clever (opps commented before watching)
@@craigauty6756 they sure did!
Slightly incorrect lancia has won WRC the most times. 10 times. No other manufacturer has come close.
@@goosegarage78 yeah I know that’s in all years though I was just talking about the early 90’s when Toyota was using the celica
Venting all the turbo pressure is nice theatrics...but causes turbolag once you put your foot down again, and run extremely rich because you vented metered air.
Think also boost controller settings need work, because 4500rpm till boost on a the small factory turbo makes no sense, especially not on custom piping.
Does it even use the MAP sensor, or is it just on "full send" mode and spraying and praying...
Tbh my knowledge of turbo car tuning is pretty limited so I don't really know but that could explain why the boost arrives so late
Car manufacturers: 20000$ extra for a features in a car only
4:19 what im looking for a features in a car
AHAHHAHAa
Chuck a gen 4 3sgte into a curren
Would be cool
Shame I rarely see gt4s anymore
Yeah me neither! I sold wheels off my Legacy 3.0R to a guy with a white one in full castrol livery that was sick