Many HP scanners have musical note playing built in as an easter egg. During development of the original ScanJet (it and the ScanJet II use proprietary interfaces, not parallel) that at different speeds the motor made different pitches. So they programmed the firmware with several notes and a play command, none of which was accessed by the PC driver software. A couple decades later someone rediscovered that hidden feature.
the hdd is controlled with the same arduino like the fdd's. It just pulses a pin at the right frequency and this signal is amplified with a single transistor at 5v and fed into the hdd coil.
Sounds great! The hdd really adds up to the sound, with some higher notes. Maybe it would have been nice play the hdd's part on a softer sounding floppy at the same time, for a bit of a deeper sound. Great edit (:
yes the hdd can make almost any hearable frequency as it works just like a speaker but sounds far worse ;) so it can be driven like a speaker with any kind of amplifier like a pair of transistors. Very easy. On the floppy the stepper motors make the sound. They can not move very fast so they are limited in their range and they need a pulse and a direction signal but are also easier to drive than other parts. Faster stepper motors as in scanners could make higher sounds.
you remove the pcb from the hdd and search for the pins going to the head coil. You can use a 9v Block to find them. The head should move. You would control it using the signal that would normally step the fdd motor but you will need amplification like a transistor. It works best on 5v.
can anyone tell me, is there any good way to make the higher pitch drives sound louder? i can hardly hear mine, but they sound nice and loud on lower pitches, unfortunately it's hard to get an entire song that only uses 1 and a half octaves (the range in which i can actually hear it and the floppies don't decide to give up after playing 10 notes)
every drive sounds different and youz have to be lucky to get the right drives. Some are really quiet at higher notes. Shifting an octave down can help to make a difference ;)
5 of my 8 drives are MITSUMIs, VERY good at the low notes but bad at the high notes. i got these drives from my local pc repair shop for £2 each, they work really well. as i said, it's hard to shift high stuff down an octave without having to shift all the rest around and risk having some too LOW for the software. also, completely unrelated, i managed to take snippets of code from the Moppy arduino code, and make something which can play nyan cat on multiple drives, infinitely, without any need for a computer. if anyone is interested in the code, i will try and upload it somewhere.
you need an arduino, a psu and some wires and you are ready to go. In the description as a link to the software i used. If you want more than 8 drives you have to modify the code a bit but you could start with the example code. Maybe i will make a tutorial some day but there are a few people who already explained how to start.
ja du hast recht. ich musste die Note einen halben Schritt herabsetzen. Die hdd könnte zwar auch höhere töne aber ich hätte sonst das midi verarbeitende Programm umschreiben müssen und außerdem können die fdd nicht höher. Der Motor würde bei so hoher Geschwindigkeit hängen bleiben.
the drives are directly controlled by the arduino microcontroller you see in the video and the notes are sent from the computer. The arduino tracks the motor movement and switches also the moving direction. In the description is a link and the names of the software i used.
What are you using to drive the floppies? An Arduino or something a bit more powerful like a Raspberry Pi Perhaps? Are you running a modified version of Moppy or the original?
One question: It appears the HDD can make more frequencies than Floppies, right? Isn't it better use HDD's? Is it more hard? Well I'd like to know the answers. :) Thank you in advance! :D PS: I've seen that some of high frequencies weren't nice in the HDD. Can't any other part of PC Hardware, make higher freq??
been trying to look at adapting the whole method for a RaspberryPi as i dont want to get an Arduino just for the floppy music software by Sammy1am (the software can be adapter, just no direct way to map pins to do whats needed,
AgentTadpole granted yes, but if i can use what i allready have, thats money saved even if a small bit. (that and i want to use my Pi for more than an StreePass Server)
depends on how you want to drive the hdd. but yes it is compatible. it generates a square wave at the right frequency. You may want a circuit that can output negative voltages instead of zero for the hdd. But i am also just using single mosfet and drive the hdd with 0v;5v.
Gigawipf I tried yesterday, and had to put a resistors divisor bridge to diminish the hdd sound power. Anyway, I thing that i could damage the coil of hdd motor if i put 5v directly on it. For the output negative voltage instead of gnd, what do you thing of a capacitor in serial on the gnd line? This should remove the DC offset (with a well-chosen capacitor value). What is your advice?
The older hdds have no problem with 5v directly but a resistor might be safer. The capacitor idea could work but i have no cap with a big enough value for that. And it would also change the nice quare wave sound. Depends on what you like.
This is way cool. I recently built an 8 FDD setup. I had no idea that HDD could be this loud. I am going to HAVE to add at least one to my setup. It sounds like they do the higher notes very well. I assume that you hook up the HDD in much the same way as the FDD.
Now and then I think of when we were installed Like when you said you felt so great that you could run Told myself that you were right for FAT But felt so lonely inside your COMS But that was then and it's the dust I still remember You can get addicted to a certain kind of CMOS Like resignation to the BIOS, and with the DOS So when we found that you were obsolete Well you said that we would still be neat But I'll admit that I was glad that era's done
You need a plan also to have your code accomplish the PWM pulsing in a coordinated way so they render the song ;) Some will ultimately figure out ways to auto-process MIDI songs into stepper motor modulation.
"Now you're just some data that moves to slow"
You won TH-cam for today sir..
Many HP scanners have musical note playing built in as an easter egg. During development of the original ScanJet (it and the ScanJet II use proprietary interfaces, not parallel) that at different speeds the motor made different pitches. So they programmed the firmware with several notes and a play command, none of which was accessed by the PC driver software. A couple decades later someone rediscovered that hidden feature.
1:12 you see this genius's face on the HDD. I just don't get bored of watching floppy drives play music.
Somefloppy that I used to know.
wardrich Somefloppy that I used to store xD
wardrich Somefloppy that I used to drive :D
Kijuma Kruz niiiiiice
Great bit of music... and I love the cameo at 1:11 :D
That's rather a good example of its type :)
the hdd is controlled with the same arduino like the fdd's. It just pulses a pin at the right frequency and this signal is amplified with a single transistor at 5v and fed into the hdd coil.
Some of the higher notes were off but I suppose that you can only expect so much from a group of storage devices
Nice work.
This is so awesome and sweet/cute at the same time!!!
somethings are off tune in the high pitch areas
they're floppy drives what do you want
Foxontherun2
lol pretty much
That high "c". Ouch.
Foxontherun2 less flopping more driving
Scott Chiste yes definitely some wrong notes
Sounds great! The hdd really adds up to the sound, with some higher notes. Maybe it would have been nice play the hdd's part on a softer sounding floppy at the same time, for a bit of a deeper sound. Great edit (:
...How did I get here?? That was freaking awesome!! Good job!!
yes the hdd can make almost any hearable frequency as it works just like a speaker but sounds far worse ;) so it can be driven like a speaker with any kind of amplifier like a pair of transistors. Very easy. On the floppy the stepper motors make the sound. They can not move very fast so they are limited in their range and they need a pulse and a direction signal but are also easier to drive than other parts. Faster stepper motors as in scanners could make higher sounds.
"Now you're just some floppy that I used to write..."
You deserve so many more subs dude, wow!
you remove the pcb from the hdd and search for the pins going to the head coil. You can use a 9v Block to find them. The head should move.
You would control it using the signal that would normally step the fdd motor but you will need amplification like a transistor. It works best on 5v.
@Tjeu van Bussel there were other drives playing this part :)
can anyone tell me, is there any good way to make the higher pitch drives sound louder? i can hardly hear mine, but they sound nice and loud on lower pitches, unfortunately it's hard to get an entire song that only uses 1 and a half octaves (the range in which i can actually hear it and the floppies don't decide to give up after playing 10 notes)
Maybe try putting them closer to the mic, I tink his higher tones are closer here.
every drive sounds different and youz have to be lucky to get the right drives. Some are really quiet at higher notes. Shifting an octave down can help to make a difference ;)
5 of my 8 drives are MITSUMIs, VERY good at the low notes but bad at the high notes. i got these drives from my local pc repair shop for £2 each, they work really well. as i said, it's hard to shift high stuff down an octave without having to shift all the rest around and risk having some too LOW for the software.
also, completely unrelated, i managed to take snippets of code from the Moppy arduino code, and make something which can play nyan cat on multiple drives, infinitely, without any need for a computer. if anyone is interested in the code, i will try and upload it somewhere.
Also maybe give it a dedicated mic right up close to it?
but i can currently only record the video with my phone and that would mean i would have to record sound separately and then sync it up in editing.
@winfr34k yes it is almost impossible to play the high notes on these drives so i had to put about 3 notes one note down. it sounds a bit strange ;)
Gigawipf YOU ARE A MASTER OF ARTS AND CRAFTS, MY BROTHER!
ich kann es irgendwie immernoch nicht glauben ;) vielen Dank. Naja es gibt viele Videos mit diesem Song auch mit Computerteilen^^
you need an arduino, a psu and some wires and you are ready to go. In the description as a link to the software i used. If you want more than 8 drives you have to modify the code a bit but you could start with the example code. Maybe i will make a tutorial some day but there are a few people who already explained how to start.
I really love this stuff, the lower more reverberating bass sounds really get me. i need to figure out how to make something like this.
Amazing bro.. Love this!
Lepsze niż oryginał :)
ja du hast recht. ich musste die Note einen halben Schritt herabsetzen. Die hdd könnte zwar auch höhere töne aber ich hätte sonst das midi verarbeitende Programm umschreiben müssen und außerdem können die fdd nicht höher. Der Motor würde bei so hoher Geschwindigkeit hängen bleiben.
the drives are directly controlled by the arduino microcontroller you see in the video and the notes are sent from the computer. The arduino tracks the motor movement and switches also the moving direction. In the description is a link and the names of the software i used.
@Saunis06 *noticed you wish* i will have look at it and maybe i can find some time for it later.
What are you using to drive the floppies? An Arduino or something a bit more powerful like a Raspberry Pi Perhaps? Are you running a modified version of Moppy or the original?
Great Job!!! I enjoyed it a lot! Maybe your next song could be "Too Much Time On My Hands"? LOL but seriously try it? again Fantastic job!!!
Yours is real, and that admirable. Unlike that solid snake guy who obviously edits/synts heavily with his 8 FDD.
Some file that I used to know
Thank you :D I just uploaded it yesterday ;)
Amazing creativity.
gibt es das noch irgendwo in einem Archiv? würds mir gern anhören :D
:o omg... there is a Face^^
Yes i looked into the box to see if the voltage dropped but everything was fine :)
THIS IS AMAZING. YOU WIN AT LIFE,
You came on our radio today. The popularest radio in bayern (germany)
how do you get it to move like that the floppy drives thanks!
Doesn't quite get those high notes, does it?
I noticed some missing notes at the start but other than that it was awesome, great job!
5 Nerd Stars! Nice work
HDD the conductor of the orchestra. :D
wow amazing dude....creative..
Now you're just a format that i used to know.
Made my day
AWESOME!
dam, the bass sound awesome!
Excellent... who is that in the CD at 1:12
that was me ;)
i wanted to take a short look at the drives.
That's a Hard Drive by the way. Lol
Please show/tell me how to do this. I want to make a set up like this of my own
i did not expect bass from the hard drive!
Mind Blown!
One question: It appears the HDD can make more frequencies than Floppies, right? Isn't it better use HDD's? Is it more hard? Well I'd like to know the answers. :) Thank you in advance! :D
PS: I've seen that some of high frequencies weren't nice in the HDD. Can't any other part of PC Hardware, make higher freq??
Was the stepper motor on the floppy and / or on the HD 5V or 12 V?
yes i use a modified version of moppy with an arduino mega 2560.
hui, ich komme aus niedersachen ;) war das wirklich mein video? Das wär ja unglaublich :) Freut mich wenn es dir gefällt.
how would you get the hdd to work? I know you use the step and direction pins on a floppy drive, but controlling the hdd motor?
it's great considering!
freaking cool dude. you gotta tell me how to do that, I have alot of floppy drives
Beautifull)) Great idea!
been trying to look at adapting the whole method for a RaspberryPi as i dont want to get an Arduino just for the floppy music software by Sammy1am (the software can be adapter, just no direct way to map pins to do whats needed,
AgentTadpole
granted yes, but if i can use what i allready have, thats money saved even if a small bit. (that and i want to use my Pi for more than an StreePass Server)
Is the Moppy arduino firmware fully compatible with hdd's?
Or you had to modify it to make it handle hdd too?
depends on how you want to drive the hdd. but yes it is compatible. it generates a square wave at the right frequency.
You may want a circuit that can output negative voltages instead of zero for the hdd. But i am also just using single mosfet and drive the hdd with 0v;5v.
Gigawipf I tried yesterday, and had to put a resistors divisor bridge to diminish the hdd sound power. Anyway, I thing that i could damage the coil of hdd motor if i put 5v directly on it.
For the output negative voltage instead of gnd, what do you thing of a capacitor in serial on the gnd line? This should remove the DC offset (with a well-chosen capacitor value).
What is your advice?
The older hdds have no problem with 5v directly but a resistor might be safer.
The capacitor idea could work but i have no cap with a big enough value for that.
And it would also change the nice quare wave sound. Depends on what you like.
nice reflection dude
This is awesome
So amazing!
Great work!
that is sooo freakin cool
This would be great for sleepovers, you could freak out the other guests in the middle of night
Very good
That was a quick reply! haha thank you very much for all the information! Just Sub'd! :)
howd you get the hard drive to work with the floppy drives?
Too bad i knew someone who had one of the old ScanJets some time ago but threw it away... But awesome story that i heard some time ago too.
Will you please tell me what brand of drives you are using on these??
Hey, those hard drive sounds would be amazing for the portal 2 ending where all the turrets start singing (:
@FranziVanFlubbsig hab ich mir gedacht.. aber nicht gefunden. muss wohl nochmal schauen ;)
Next will be gangamstyle? :D
This is way cool.
I recently built an 8 FDD setup. I had no idea that HDD could be this loud.
I am going to HAVE to add at least one to my setup. It sounds like they do the higher notes very well.
I assume that you hook up the HDD in much the same way as the FDD.
Yes the hdd can do very high notes. The signal is just amplified with a transistor.
awesome
GENIUS !!
1:42 Zu hoch für die HDD? (kenne den tonumfang nicht) aber finds einfach nur geil :D weiter so :D
Can you do pumped up kicks on this.
Rewelacja. nice music :)
ciekawe czy ktoś gra na drukarkach igłowych albo kasach fiskalnych? może RAP :D
Dodał widzę dysk do kompletu, wcześniej same floppy były
Ten dysk najlepiej brzmiał przy pierwszym refrenie.
Now and then I think of when we were installed
Like when you said you felt so great that you could run
Told myself that you were right for FAT
But felt so lonely inside your COMS
But that was then and it's the dust I still remember
You can get addicted to a certain kind of CMOS
Like resignation to the BIOS, and with the DOS
So when we found that you were obsolete
Well you said that we would still be neat
But I'll admit that I was glad that era's done
You need a plan also to have your code accomplish the PWM pulsing in a coordinated way so they render the song ;) Some will ultimately figure out ways to auto-process MIDI songs into stepper motor modulation.
why this isnt called some floppy that i used to know?
Nice :) Sowas muss ich auch mal versuchen hab nur nicht so viele Laufwerke da :D
well then happy birthday afterwards^^
That is very cool
Love it!
hahaha best one iv seen great work that hard drive competes it
How did you do the HDD?
You never had to Floppy me off...
Joa, habs auch auf Bayern 3 gehört - geile Sache ;)
Somebody Floppy That I Used to Know!
Somefloppy That I Used to Know
You ever try getting a CD ROM drive to work like this also with the carriage motor?
would be difficult as the motor needs to be driven directly and it would sound worse.
thank you :)
I'm stunned.
F*cking awesome! THE BEST
i have some sonic music files around. maybe i will try it ;)
Amazing
AMAZING!!!