@@mrgt3201 Lol, obviously it is a Canada Goose. Preston reviewed this video, but in the end it doesn't matter. We do a lot of stuff and try out new things, and sometimes we miss something. We made a mistake, and we try to learn from them. We all make mistakes but what matters is that we have an is it worth it coming out about Canada Goose soon as well
$1200 for a puffy down jacket? Maybe if I were a French citizen who wanted to show national pride. Not interested in the fashion aspect. I'm more interested in real world expedition experience which they are not known for anymore. This is for rich people now. Not real outdoorsman.
French wont/cant spend that much on a jacket and rich people will find another brands with more prestige, so this brand its basically for the young people
OK, I can actually think of a good reason why they may have gone with the cheaper plastic zippers, rather than metal. If that nylon gets snagged in the zipper, a brass zipper will just shred it to bits. But a nylon or plastic zipper may not damage that outer shell too much, if at all. And I'm pretty sure that if you end up damaging that outer fabric, the jacket is trashed.
I’m not sure, but I think it is made for cold environments, for example here in Canada if you try to zip up your jacket in -40 then it might be very uncomfortable if you have metal zipper, so the plastic one is better.
Thanks for addressing the animal cruelty dimension. That is why I appreciate this channel and hold it in high esteem. You think for yourself and you have a heart.
I recently bought a $1900 Moncler in Boston. If I’m being honest, this jacket was worth every penny. The warmth, the comfort and the style are unparalleled.
I’m a younger guy and I own the Moncler Maya and the Moncler Genius Chouette jackets and I’ve gotten nothing but compliments wearing them. I agree these jackets don’t suite your look, style nor esthetic at all and isn’t flattering. These jackets just fit better on some more than others, this is made for the younger generation.
@Al Marcel He has gotten compliments because it is a matter of subjectivity. Just because it doesn´t meet your taste doesn´t mean the jacket is bad per se or everyone has to dislike them. From an intersubjective point of view Moncler does produce great jackets which look good on athletic younger people. Simple as that.
Jacket isnt wearing a person, but person is wearing a jacket, so it is not about age but about what is one a peacocq, a hipster, a drug dealer, a new rich or a gentelman.
@@FelixS. Age is a demographic characteristic of a person, not an “attribute”. Attributes are traits or qualities that a person has, not their physical appearance
Exactly - he chose two of the most awful things they make and ignored ll the amazing coats they have. One look at their website shows you that. That's what differentiates them as a brand from North Faces of the world.
Please do one on Goyard, Ralph Lauren cashmere sweaters, Polo Bear, Barbour waxed cotton jackets, Burberry scarves, Louis Vuitton luggage, Persol sunglasses, Belstaff jackets, Tod’s driving shoes, Lanvin sneakers, Rolex watches, and Yves Saint Laurent leather jackets 😃 Those are just some ideas for future ones, I really enjoy this series and respect all the work that you guys put into them.
Barbour Waxed Jackets being an English Classic would fit especially well into the series, as you've already covered Hunter Wellies and the Burberry Trench! Great work, keep it up!
I recently purchased a Moncler Maya in black. I’m a big fan of the styling. Feels quality. Zipper is quite difficult to pull all the way down to line it up to start zipping. I agree the sizes run small. I’m 5’10” 170 pounds and had to exchange size 3 for a size 4.
Once again Raphael, magnificent detail and history lesson for us all. I love love love the fact that you are not snobbish and emphasize balancing substance and value with style. Ive often wondered what the allure was with Moncler products suspecting that qulity and unique materials was the reason for the high prices but you have educated me to see otherwise. Im going to save my money and be just as stylish with one of the alternatives you recommended.
I remember in the late 1970's, down jackets in California were the rage, especially among high school-age teenagers. One brand of down jacket that was popular with teenagers that reminds me of Moncler was a brand called "Down Jones", it was a navy colored down jacket with ultra glossy nylon material, like Moncler. Down jackets popularity faded starting in the early 1980's and seem to have made a comeback.
I love wearing mine. Bought a few years back, same style (Maya) but was a bit less expensive then. I've had other down jackets before and since but the Moncler is that bit more special. Worth the extra? Well, maybe worth treating yourself once!
They always remind me of really bad 60s-70s D grade sci-fi movies for some reason. I am not sure whom is buying them, but the style just makes me cringe.
I find this with quite a lot of high end designer stuff though. Maybe it's just beyond my thinking of fashion but some of the designs I see are simply ridiculous. To name one would be some of the Louboutin mens trainers with the spikes. Just monstrous.
My wife got me one of these as a birthday present around 10 years ago. Mine is in orange and was purchased at the end of season marked down 70%. I never would've paid full price but this is a great jacket.
Some facts and reasons out there that were missed: -Plastic zippers are used more often on lighter weight puffer jackets because even though nylon shell is relatively tear resistant, metal zippers that get caught on the fabric are more likely to tear the fabric like a knife once they snag on and picture the fabric. Secondly it's also because metal zippers are heavy and stiff and won't feel comfortable and balanced if the rest of the jacket if lighter than the zipper. -there are fill counts at high as 1000 fill that are sold commercially from brands like Mount Bell and Rab and they are usually flagship class jackets.
I bought a lightweight Moncler jacket. It doesn’t seem possible to be warm but it is. I don’t think it’s filled with down, I think it’s filled with magic. Fit and finish are amazing, totally different level of build quality. That being said it’s ridiculously expensive but I love it. Kind of like having a super model girlfriend.
I used to be into high end named brands when I as younger. But not anymore, I just look for cheapest price but functional clothing. I got a Columbia Men's Whirlibird Iv Interchange Jacket at the end of season for $150 (including shipping), it has a waterproof outer shell, and down inner jacket, it works great. I also have a North Face Gortex shell and 300 weight Fleece Jacket, that I bought many years ago (it cost me $500 for the two) and it is too small now (so that is why I got cheaper option this time around). If it is extremely cold day. I just wear layers under the jacket (sweater, thick turtleneck or 100 weight fleece jacket that I wear in the fall weather)
Just a quick FYI, this brand is more towards fashion rather than for utility. It’s for upper middle class to high class people who want to make a fashion statement but not to actually wear it in the cold. It’s only worth it if you got money to spare and retail won’t hurt your pockets.
Backpacking and mountain climbing are kind of my things. That being said 710 is an awfully low number for a jacket of that price. Even Northface uses 750 in most of their jackets. You are right though, most companies don’t use higher than 800 in large batches. My sleeping bag is 950 fill power and is responsible sources from ducks. As an outdoorsman, I always thought that normal people wearing down jackets just looked like posers. Frankly there are better jackets for everyday than down, I don’t wear mine day to day. At the end of the day you’re paying for the name.
Moncler has become a status symbol and you pay accordingly like with all other luxury items. However, they are good jackets in terms of functionality regardless of their astronomical price.
To me this depends on where you live. If you live in Chicago or Minneapolis then investing in a world class jacket is a good idea. I actually think they look good for a puffer jacket.
Moncler is an absolute rip off. On a performance note, I can get a made-to-measure, 1000fp goose down jacket that's made in the UK by a company called PHD for less than a Moncler. In fact, I can get a down expedition suit for climbing Everest for less than a Moncler. And if you get a Moncler just for the badge, then you're a cad.
Thanks for putting me onto the brand "PHD". They look amazing and their heritage coupled with the Made In England (and not China/Romania) makes them very respectable for the money.
Moncler's most popular shiny pieces seem to be a love it or hate it type of deal. Looking through the comments theres no in between lol. Personally I really like them, obviously you're paying for the brand more than anything but I've never had an issue with quality and although the nylon seems thin and fragile it does hold up to years of wear. As far as the trimmings go, I have been way more impressed with moncler's than other similarly priced brands. The full metal zips on my burberry have shown more abuse than moncler, and I wear my jackets often. You could always go Canada Goose, but I'm just more partial to moncler, and see CG as more of a trend. To each their own. Of course there are jackets that do the same thing for less, but I personally love the shiny, 'trash bag' look, and the brand's heritage. No luxury brand is worth its price ever in terms of functionality but if you have the money and are comfortable with the price, why not buy what you like? Good review
Everyone has to stick to their own budget, but I feel its worth it and the down is a superior product. I have the acorus, which is a more light weight style, and I find it more functionally warm than much bigger puffier down jackets from brands like Patagonia. I don't care for down jackets for fashion statements, I think its just better at keeping me warm without having to wear something bulky
The zip is most likely injection moulded compared to machined to prevent damage to the jackets material. Metal zippers are far more likely to catch against the coats fabric and rip it due to them being naturally sharper than the plastic
Not to mention that these jackets are designed to be worn in the super cold. Metal zippers could be an issue in that type of weather. Warm moist hands on a freezing cold metal zipper🤔
Animal welfare, he wouldn't be wearing any animal products if he were into animal rights. Big difference that people need to understand the difference because animal rights is extremism.
Sheepskin is better than Wool or that polyester rubbish for keeping warm! Usually I’m ok with a trench coat for British winters but I’ll get the Sheepskin coat out for the iceiest period!
Regarding the Zipper - you're 100% incorrect. They use Vislon (plastic molded) because of it's durability, smoothness & colour matching with metals slider & pulls. If they were to use metal No. 5 or No. 7 Brass, Nickle etc, they would receive endless returns & repairs as owners would not necessarily take care of them as they close the zippers.....
It's ALL about that little label.... But, personal experience - I got a competitor jacket made by Herno, another expensive Italian brand that does lots of down jackets and it turned A LOT worse. They had 100% down vs. Moncler's 90% and they were lighter but the issue was the shell. The shell and stitching were subpar and after about one season of wear, I saw down sticking out at a few places and one of the puff panel had a tiny hole... My Moncler is perfectly fine after 3 years of wear - no down sticking out, no holes, the puffiness is still perfect.
I find it to be a hype too. not worth it. I think, even for a fashionista there are other options out there that provide interesting cuts and colours. I think.if I really need a very warm and light weight jacket for special occasions or weather conditions, I would rather go by brands that really provide expedition jackets. they have multipurpose ranges too and some even a good selection of day ware made with material they use for the extreme expedition outfits too. so for both needs there are better alternatives I guess. it seems to be a status symbol
@@PornobrillenAli That is not true. there are other jackets - northface and mammut - these are made for these conditions - even up to -40 or -50 celsius. I know a lot of people that like to wear their down jackets by mammut, montura, mountain equipement..... . in europe it is not that often, that it is that cold. so nobody likes to buy an extra coat. they wear the ones, they already own. and I think, they look quite good. most of them cost about 300-400 eur. but even the very exquisite ones that are extremely warm AND much thinner so one can also be active outside (climb or just do things outside, where you need to stay agile) those with the latest technology, cost max 750,- eur (one of the standard - cheaper ones by moncler costs a little more 795,- eur). the one by yeti purity does look very good in my opinion and is the winner in that category. moncler is still a fashion statement rather a necessity. I am sure, those in the very extreme climates in areas in canada or sibiria don't mind, if their jacket is by moncler or not. it should be light and warm for extreme temperatures. and I doubt that moncler is the first choice even under these conditions. I find it highly suspicious, that there is no product detail regarding strength in cold temperature on their homepage. and if fashion is soo important? yes, there are alternatives too
Although I wouldn't ever wear one even if it were given to me, I would at least say that they do have a bit of a distinctive, rather than just saying "looks like a garbage, lol". They do have 6 main "squares" on the front that are neatly spaced, separated by a cheap, albeit classy zipper on the black version. Like a lot of products in high-end fashion, they had to take a stand and settle their identity on a design that can be recognized from miles away. In that regard, they did it right. Just my two cents on this design, I'd be glad to hear about your opinion on this. By the way, very professional review, thank you for staying objective.
Have a Moncler Grenoble. Very warm and nice quality. It's a fashion statement just like a nice watch. You don't need it but it's nice to own. Bought two in a day, one for myself and one for my wife. An expensive day out to say the least. Managed a micro tear in mine after wearing only a couple of weeks. Store feedback was that's bad luck nothing we can do. Credit to the jacket, really caught it badly and to only leave an extremely small tear was a miracle. If you don't have the spending power layer up and you will be just as warm.
The reason I hate all these puffy jackets because they are so easy to damage. They could easily be ripped up if you take a fall against a coarse surface, or accidentally brush up against a chain link fence.
Got a lightweight Moncler jacket on sales, about 500€ and I'm obsessed. Love it to pieces, been wearing only it the whole year 😁 Definitely will be in the market for another one
The Zipper on almost all Down jackets is plastic for two reasons, weight and packability, a fashion brand or not any down product has the outdoors in its interest, Moncler are a luxury brand for sure, but the jacket still needs to work as a down jacket for more than just warmth. Also in regards to washing any down jacket, using down wash from a brand like NikWax is defiantly the best option and learn how to reloft the down otherwise the jacket is flat and useless. And finally I agree entirely, other brands have far better jackets for far less money, you can get a The North Face summit Series jacket that weighs less and has 800 fill power for 1/3 of the price, or a Rab down jacket of the same spec for far less again. As you stated, they're a luxury brand, and that is what you're paying for.
My wife is a Warranty assessor for another luxury goose down jacket manufacturer. Other than the expedition jackets she says the others are cheaply manufactured and are truly awful cash grabs.
Despite looking ridiculous and being quite expensive, if you're an active outdoorsman in a very cold environment, theres nothing better. Best jacket money can buy for cold weather
Thank you for the history lesson! Really cool. Did you know that Moncler is one of only three brands of France allowed to use the official French bird logo?
Just bought my moncler alyx 1700 euro moncler jacket today in vienna and I have to say, life's too short to think about "is it worth it or not?" if it keeps crossing your mind and keeps you excited, doesn't matter why, then just buy it and do yourself this favor. And btw Im not rich or something just working a lot at the moment haha.
Love the videos. thank you for this series. Very informative. QUESTION: Must you buy these expensive items for the videos or are are renting or borrowing them? Just curious. thanks!
I’ll stick with me Eddie Bauer XV jacket. 850 fill, waterproof and highly scratch resistant fabric. Box wall construction is also important so you don’t get cold spots at the stitch seams. If you are after deals check out Gear Trade.
Rafael, Saint Crispin is a romanian brand and it's made in Brașov, Transilvania. Romania has a lot of skilfull artisans and they make clothes for several brands, as Burberry, Armani, Hugo Boss etc.. ok it's not a rich country, but the craftsmanship is very good. Also take a look at Valentin Frunza. He is a romanian shoe maker from Moldova. Merry Christmas
@@Lekgab greetings from Romania. Hungary has a lot of artisans too. I think of master Laszlo Vass who' s work inspired many boot makers in Eastern Europe
I think Moncler jackets and hats are worth the price. I`m wearing Moncler for years and I never had any problems. I got a new moncler jacket in December in Milan and a hat with real blue fox fur and the quality is amazing.
I have a pyrenex spoutnic mate down jacket I would highly recommend it. It has 700 fill power and the same 90% down to 10% other feathers and its really high quality. Also the coat is pretty much on sale all the time you can pick one up brand new for around £300
Unless you're a mountain hiker and camp in freezing temperatures you don't need dawn filling. Just get a good synthetic (coreloft for example) insulated jacket - does not look so ridiculous, it's super warm, doesn't loose its properties or get ruined when its wet, no problems with washing it in a washing machine.
10:13 It's not that bad, it has a GDP per capita higher than Greece, Croatia, Turkey, Russia, Bulgaria, Belarus, Montenegro, Serbia, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania, Ukraine, Moldova and Kosovo. Prada also makes a lot of its items in Romania, and so do multiple other brands, and most luxury factories are made just outside of Bucharest where living conditions and salaries are better than a lot of places in Italy. Gucci for example makes its clothes in a Chinese immigrant city in Italy called Prato because they can get away with paying them way less money while labelling their clothes as made in Italy. So production costs are low regardless, but Moncler and Prada don't try fooling you into believing your clothes are made by Italian artisans.
You do talk about premium materials for the zippers and yet fastener companies claim that plastic zippers actually last longer than metal. Understandably, if you just care about luxury, durability isn't a concern especially at that price point.
I'm learning about things I once thought as completely dismissive. However, subtle knowledge of gentleman's wear can benefit others and I. Good videos.
Copped the Maya a couple years back and it was worth every penny. While everyone else was still stuck on Canada Goose (now played out and obsolete), I decided to place my bets on Moncler and I'm glad I did. The Maya still looks good to this day and i've been seeing more people wear this brand. It really holds all the warmth in despite being very light-weight for how it looks. For the price point you really do get what you pay for in terms of superior functionality and style.
Hey I have a question. Which extreme winter jacket is worth the money and you personally recommend? Should I buy a fur jacket? and if so how should I wear it?
I like the analysis here. I can't see the value for the investment but good point about the business model seeming to be more a status symbol than anything else. I wouldn't buy one for a third of the price. Thanks for posting this. Love your videos.
Looks like a good and objective review. I cannot believe there are people who spend their money on a ridiculously expensive apparel, perhaps to compensate for low self-esteem. Perfectly happy with my same-quality parka from Timberland, which cost me 3x less.
I really like your conclusion and give suggestions what other options out there with similar quality but much lower price. I have to admit I am a big fan of Moncler and already spent $10K on them. But maybe it's about time that I should spend money more wisely in the future. Thanks!
Daniel Craig is wearing Canada Goose in the picture.
My thoughts exactly.
Preston would never have made this mitsake 😉
@Wolf so CG is just fake moncler ?
???
@@mrgt3201 Lol, obviously it is a Canada Goose. Preston reviewed this video, but in the end it doesn't matter. We do a lot of stuff and try out new things, and sometimes we miss something. We made a mistake, and we try to learn from them. We all make mistakes but what matters is that we have an is it worth it coming out about Canada Goose soon as well
You know, I really appreciate his honesty. It's obviously not worth it but I was expecting him to say that it was. Glad not everyone is a sellout.
You can get one for 500$
@@jimlengzh5405 where?
@@Will-nc1yu sales or secondhand.
Or get a the North face one for under 200
Or get a Tommy Hilfiger coat which is almost an exact replica of these for 60$ at tjmaxx and Marshalls
You get extra player points for caring about the animals brother.
@Jake Dean ok snowflake
$1200 for a puffy down jacket? Maybe if I were a French citizen who wanted to show national pride. Not interested in the fashion aspect. I'm more interested in real world expedition experience which they are not known for anymore.
This is for rich people now. Not real outdoorsman.
you dont need to be rich to spend 1200
@@Pp-zv4or you have to be rich to spend 1200 on a jacket that looks like a garbage bag.
@@renz2k no
it's Italian and made in Romania... the real cost might be 50. No more.
French wont/cant spend that much on a jacket and rich people will find another brands with more prestige, so this brand its basically for the young people
OK, I can actually think of a good reason why they may have gone with the cheaper plastic zippers, rather than metal. If that nylon gets snagged in the zipper, a brass zipper will just shred it to bits. But a nylon or plastic zipper may not damage that outer shell too much, if at all. And I'm pretty sure that if you end up damaging that outer fabric, the jacket is trashed.
I’m not sure, but I think it is made for cold environments, for example here in Canada if you try to zip up your jacket in -40 then it might be very uncomfortable if you have metal zipper, so the plastic one is better.
Thanks for addressing the animal cruelty dimension. That is why I appreciate this channel and hold it in high esteem. You think for yourself and you have a heart.
I recently bought a $1900 Moncler in Boston. If I’m being honest, this jacket was worth every penny. The warmth, the comfort and the style are unparalleled.
@@ES-qe1nh You probably wear a Canada Goose parka...
Comments like this should come with an annual income disclaimer
especially if you want to look like a walking Micheline shining nickel
Wear Canada goose and you’ll want to throw the jacket away
Bro stop bragging we don't care
I’m a younger guy and I own the Moncler Maya and the Moncler Genius Chouette jackets and I’ve gotten nothing but compliments wearing them. I agree these jackets don’t suite your look, style nor esthetic at all and isn’t flattering. These jackets just fit better on some more than others, this is made for the younger generation.
Well said boy
@Al Marcel He has gotten compliments because it is a matter of subjectivity. Just because it doesn´t meet your taste doesn´t mean the jacket is bad per se or everyone has to dislike them. From an intersubjective point of view Moncler does produce great jackets which look good on athletic younger people. Simple as that.
Jacket isnt wearing a person, but person is wearing a jacket, so it is not about age but about what is one a peacocq, a hipster, a drug dealer, a new rich or a gentelman.
@@ilya399 Age is an attribute of a person. Deal with it.
@@FelixS. Age is a demographic characteristic of a person, not an “attribute”. Attributes are traits or qualities that a person has, not their physical appearance
They look like garbage bags inflated and then glued together
Yes, that what they look like to me.
This kind of jacket is popular in Europe. Unfortunately.
@@Offensive_Username yeah how dare people wear jackets that are really good at keeping you warm. Fashion and freezing for life 😂
If this isn’t factz
Yea that’s why puffer jackets are
Moncler makes great coats , you just chose the flashing plastic looking ones .
Exactly - he chose two of the most awful things they make and ignored ll the amazing coats they have. One look at their website shows you that. That's what differentiates them as a brand from North Faces of the world.
Hate the shiny ones, I have four monclers and none are shiny
@@1964cohibas idk i like them better shiny
@@1964cohibas but how did you afford them ?
@@thanoscat4010 poor question.
Please do one on Goyard, Ralph Lauren cashmere sweaters, Polo Bear, Barbour waxed cotton jackets, Burberry scarves, Louis Vuitton luggage, Persol sunglasses, Belstaff jackets, Tod’s driving shoes, Lanvin sneakers, Rolex watches, and Yves Saint Laurent leather jackets 😃 Those are just some ideas for future ones, I really enjoy this series and respect all the work that you guys put into them.
Thanks, appreciated
Barbour Waxed Jackets being an English Classic would fit especially well into the series, as you've already covered Hunter Wellies and the Burberry Trench! Great work, keep it up!
That sounds like an expensive shopping list...
Gentleman's Gazette that’s your whole year sorted for video ideas
A slew of going through the most mainstream luxury items would surely end up losing viewers, and take the Gentlemans Gazette down a one way street.
I actually like this jacket. Even though it isn’t styled for everyday use, if I’m spending $1.2k on a jacket then I want it to stand out.
They are also popular with the casual scene in England
Mr Watto in America as well
Hooligans 😂😂😂
Ruffians lol
@@joebananas415 Ne'er do wells, heathens, and roadmen, oh my!
Same in Canada lol
I recently purchased a Moncler Maya in black. I’m a big fan of the styling. Feels quality. Zipper is quite difficult to pull all the way down to line it up to start zipping. I agree the sizes run small. I’m 5’10” 170 pounds and had to exchange size 3 for a size 4.
Once again Raphael, magnificent detail and history lesson for us all. I love love love the fact that you are not snobbish and emphasize balancing substance and value with style. Ive often wondered what the allure was with Moncler products suspecting that qulity and unique materials was the reason for the high prices but you have educated me to see otherwise. Im going to save my money and be just as stylish with one of the alternatives you recommended.
I remember in the late 1970's, down jackets in California were the rage, especially among high school-age teenagers. One brand of down jacket that was popular with teenagers that reminds me of Moncler was a brand called "Down Jones", it was a navy colored down jacket with ultra glossy nylon material, like Moncler. Down jackets popularity faded starting in the early 1980's and seem to have made a comeback.
3:19 Isn’t that a Canada Goose?
It is.
Obviously, it is seems like our editors did not catch it. We will do better next time
Looks nicer
@@gentlemansgazette Logo is gigantic to see.
Stop blaming the editor
Did you not check it?
I love wearing mine. Bought a few years back, same style (Maya) but was a bit less expensive then. I've had other down jackets before and since but the Moncler is that bit more special. Worth the extra? Well, maybe worth treating yourself once!
Nahh they look ridiculous
They always remind me of really bad 60s-70s D grade sci-fi movies for some reason. I am not sure whom is buying them, but the style just makes me cringe.
Moncler has great models as well in more elegant fabrics, no shine. These are ugliest ones.
I find this with quite a lot of high end designer stuff though. Maybe it's just beyond my thinking of fashion but some of the designs I see are simply ridiculous. To name one would be some of the Louboutin mens trainers with the spikes. Just monstrous.
moncler isnt meant for 50 year olds
south park's kenny
My wife got me one of these as a birthday present around 10 years ago. Mine is in orange and was purchased at the end of season marked down 70%. I never would've paid full price but this is a great jacket.
I thought Moncler don't do sales? I guess i would also get one if it was 70% off.
In Germany there are not sales for Moncler.
@@eurotripx5931 There are some outlet stores.
Lyst will have Moncler on sales
Lucky need me a girl who gon buy me designer too 💔
The best looking jacket in the whole video is worn by James Bond and it’s a Canada goose 🤦♂️
QB Comic Addict Best looking jackets worn by James bond are from bogner.
Some facts and reasons out there that were missed:
-Plastic zippers are used more often on lighter weight puffer jackets because even though nylon shell is relatively tear resistant, metal zippers that get caught on the fabric are more likely to tear the fabric like a knife once they snag on and picture the fabric. Secondly it's also because metal zippers are heavy and stiff and won't feel comfortable and balanced if the rest of the jacket if lighter than the zipper.
-there are fill counts at high as 1000 fill that are sold commercially from brands like Mount Bell and Rab and they are usually flagship class jackets.
LOL 1500 bucks for a red trash bag
Can you Pluck 40 White Goose then put the feather in it and sell it to me for less?
Upscale fashion isn't for everyone.
Caliginous Rain you have to match it for it to look good. If you’re a middle aged gentleman like this guy it won’t look good
Caliginous Rain really not a fan of the laytex look, they do however make matte jkts
@@InADarkTavern like my guy El Alfa, he knows how to pull anything off 🔥🔥🔥
Perceived value. Like beauty. It’s in the eye of the beholder.
love that
1:59 when your mum asks to see how your new winter coat fits you in the store
😂
DUDE! 💀
Tubby Cab 😂😂😂😂😂
you have such an enjoyble way of talking and explaining
it’s always pleasant to watch your videos
They look kinda ridiculous.
I bought a lightweight Moncler jacket. It doesn’t seem possible to be warm but it is. I don’t think it’s filled with down, I think it’s filled with magic. Fit and finish are amazing, totally different level of build quality. That being said it’s ridiculously expensive but I love it. Kind of like having a super model girlfriend.
Lol it's not actually warm, it's your mind telling you uts warm because you spent so much money on it
@@ts9271 or maybe its just warmer
My super model gf has a Moncler in fact LoL
I have the similar one and I'm obsessed!
Raphael it was worth watching your vid. Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year
Likewise!
I used to be into high end named brands when I as younger. But not anymore, I just look for cheapest price but functional clothing. I got a Columbia Men's Whirlibird Iv Interchange Jacket at the end of season for $150 (including shipping), it has a waterproof outer shell, and down inner jacket, it works great. I also have a North Face Gortex shell and 300 weight Fleece Jacket, that I bought many years ago (it cost me $500 for the two) and it is too small now (so that is why I got cheaper option this time around). If it is extremely cold day. I just wear layers under the jacket (sweater, thick turtleneck or 100 weight fleece jacket that I wear in the fall weather)
Who asked
Just a quick FYI, this brand is more towards fashion rather than for utility. It’s for upper middle class to high class people who want to make a fashion statement but not to actually wear it in the cold. It’s only worth it if you got money to spare and retail won’t hurt your pockets.
They still keep you warm, maybe not like moose knuckles parka, but they do keep you warm. So don't spread missinormation.
Backpacking and mountain climbing are kind of my things. That being said 710 is an awfully low number for a jacket of that price. Even Northface uses 750 in most of their jackets. You are right though, most companies don’t use higher than 800 in large batches. My sleeping bag is 950 fill power and is responsible sources from ducks. As an outdoorsman, I always thought that normal people wearing down jackets just looked like posers. Frankly there are better jackets for everyday than down, I don’t wear mine day to day. At the end of the day you’re paying for the name.
are you gonna return the jacket after the video?
Jim Ferdinando prob gave them to him
@Alex carpenter maybe they just gave him a review unit
Moncler has become a status symbol and you pay accordingly like with all other luxury items. However, they are good jackets in terms of functionality regardless of their astronomical price.
now it's a kids using it😹 gonna buy one still tho
To me this depends on where you live. If you live in Chicago or Minneapolis then investing in a world class jacket is a good idea. I actually think they look good for a puffer jacket.
“I just spent four bans on a coat (on a moncler)"
Same just dropped a rack on one
Spent a hunnid on my AF1s!!! 💪💪💪
Moncler is an absolute rip off. On a performance note, I can get a made-to-measure, 1000fp goose down jacket that's made in the UK by a company called PHD for less than a Moncler. In fact, I can get a down expedition suit for climbing Everest for less than a Moncler. And if you get a Moncler just for the badge, then you're a cad.
I agree that PhD stuff knocks spots off everything on the market
I have the classic vest and a Yukon coat never let me down
Thanks for putting me onto the brand "PHD". They look amazing and their heritage coupled with the Made In England (and not China/Romania) makes them very respectable for the money.
Man said cad
You can use a Ford to drive from a to b or you can use a Mercedes Benz 😉 same logic with clothes
Moncler's most popular shiny pieces seem to be a love it or hate it type of deal. Looking through the comments theres no in between lol. Personally I really like them, obviously you're paying for the brand more than anything but I've never had an issue with quality and although the nylon seems thin and fragile it does hold up to years of wear. As far as the trimmings go, I have been way more impressed with moncler's than other similarly priced brands. The full metal zips on my burberry have shown more abuse than moncler, and I wear my jackets often. You could always go Canada Goose, but I'm just more partial to moncler, and see CG as more of a trend. To each their own. Of course there are jackets that do the same thing for less, but I personally love the shiny, 'trash bag' look, and the brand's heritage. No luxury brand is worth its price ever in terms of functionality but if you have the money and are comfortable with the price, why not buy what you like? Good review
too shiny for my taste but they have some pretty dope jackets
Puffer jackets are supposed to be shiney i got a moncler body warmer last week for 400 pound was very shiney but that's how it should be
@@Tiger-hm8cf nope you never seen North face? they are as good or many even better and yes i have both.
i never buy a 1300 euro moncler jacket. Very good A + + + + Moncler Maya replica for only 150 euros.
Everyone has to stick to their own budget, but I feel its worth it and the down is a superior product. I have the acorus, which is a more light weight style, and I find it more functionally warm than much bigger puffier down jackets from brands like Patagonia. I don't care for down jackets for fashion statements, I think its just better at keeping me warm without having to wear something bulky
I like Moncler for the same reason, no matter how cold it is, their jackets always keep me warm.
Absolutely not. When you wear them you look like balloon or a plastic bag
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you probarbly have great taste
Sut Mig he have bomberjacket, camopants and military boots. Hes a skinhead lol
@@ibrahimhussein7281 yes i have more classic style than this german dude has. And i hate modernism.
The zip is most likely injection moulded compared to machined to prevent damage to the jackets material. Metal zippers are far more likely to catch against the coats fabric and rip it due to them being naturally sharper than the plastic
You have a point there.
Not to mention that these jackets are designed to be worn in the super cold. Metal zippers could be an issue in that type of weather. Warm moist hands on a freezing cold metal zipper🤔
for only 1.x k you too can look like the Michelin Man
This video was EXACTLY what I was looking for!
thank you Rafael for being compassionate and a true gentleman for the Animals rights. No cloth justify animals cruelty. Very appreciated.
Animal welfare, he wouldn't be wearing any animal products if he were into animal rights. Big difference that people need to understand the difference because animal rights is extremism.
I got 4 jackets between $1100 - $2090 they are well worth every penny. Warmth, light, and elegant ❤
In my humble opinion, a good 100% wool overcoat is much more worth it than this jacket!
John the Voice Agreed never goes out of fashion
Yup, agreed.
Depends on what your doing i suppose. But if your only talking about this brand of jacket for style i 100% agree
Sheepskin is better than Wool or that polyester rubbish for keeping warm! Usually I’m ok with a trench coat for British winters but I’ll get the Sheepskin coat out for the iceiest period!
@@caps8723 it's never in fashion u nerd
Regarding the Zipper - you're 100% incorrect. They use Vislon (plastic molded) because of it's durability, smoothness & colour matching with metals slider & pulls. If they were to use metal No. 5 or No. 7 Brass, Nickle etc, they would receive endless returns & repairs as owners would not necessarily take care of them as they close the zippers.....
This guy looks like he's straight out from the 50's
StuntMenLive talks like he is too
@@alexw2394 Why cause he talks properly? Should he be like "AYO This jacket is Fire, Ya Digg? But the price yo! Aint for me B"
It's ALL about that little label.... But, personal experience - I got a competitor jacket made by Herno, another expensive Italian brand that does lots of down jackets and it turned A LOT worse. They had 100% down vs. Moncler's 90% and they were lighter but the issue was the shell. The shell and stitching were subpar and after about one season of wear, I saw down sticking out at a few places and one of the puff panel had a tiny hole... My Moncler is perfectly fine after 3 years of wear - no down sticking out, no holes, the puffiness is still perfect.
Its absolutely not worth it🤧
yes Off course
I find it to be a hype too. not worth it. I think, even for a fashionista there are other options out there that provide interesting cuts and colours. I think.if I really need a very warm and light weight jacket for special occasions or weather conditions, I would rather go by brands that really provide expedition jackets. they have multipurpose ranges too and some even a good selection of day ware made with material they use for the extreme expedition outfits too. so for both needs there are better alternatives I guess. it seems to be a status symbol
@@PornobrillenAli That is not true. there are other jackets - northface and mammut - these are made for these conditions - even up to -40 or -50 celsius. I know a lot of people that like to wear their down jackets by mammut, montura, mountain equipement..... . in europe it is not that often, that it is that cold. so nobody likes to buy an extra coat. they wear the ones, they already own. and I think, they look quite good. most of them cost about 300-400 eur. but even the very exquisite ones that are extremely warm AND much thinner so one can also be active outside (climb or just do things outside, where you need to stay agile) those with the latest technology, cost max 750,- eur (one of the standard - cheaper ones by moncler costs a little more 795,- eur). the one by yeti purity does look very good in my opinion and is the winner in that category. moncler is still a fashion statement rather a necessity. I am sure, those in the very extreme climates in areas in canada or sibiria don't mind, if their jacket is by moncler or not. it should be light and warm for extreme temperatures. and I doubt that moncler is the first choice even under these conditions. I find it highly suspicious, that there is no product detail regarding strength in cold temperature on their homepage. and if fashion is soo important? yes, there are alternatives too
Michael Kors jackets are a lot more worthy and are half the price 👌
Well, like you want to look like Drake.
Although I wouldn't ever wear one even if it were given to me, I would at least say that they do have a bit of a distinctive, rather than just saying "looks like a garbage, lol". They do have 6 main "squares" on the front that are neatly spaced, separated by a cheap, albeit classy zipper on the black version. Like a lot of products in high-end fashion, they had to take a stand and settle their identity on a design that can be recognized from miles away. In that regard, they did it right.
Just my two cents on this design, I'd be glad to hear about your opinion on this.
By the way, very professional review, thank you for staying objective.
$1175 for that red thing? Good god, the world's gone mad.
Have a Moncler Grenoble. Very warm and nice quality. It's a fashion statement just like a nice watch. You don't need it but it's nice to own. Bought two in a day, one for myself and one for my wife. An expensive day out to say the least. Managed a micro tear in mine after wearing only a couple of weeks. Store feedback was that's bad luck nothing we can do. Credit to the jacket, really caught it badly and to only leave an extremely small tear was a miracle. If you don't have the spending power layer up and you will be just as warm.
The reason I hate all these puffy jackets because they are so easy to damage. They could easily be ripped up if you take a fall against a coarse surface, or accidentally brush up against a chain link fence.
You chose the most hype beast ones. My Moncler jackets are understated and the material is amazing
Got a lightweight Moncler jacket on sales, about 500€ and I'm obsessed. Love it to pieces, been wearing only it the whole year 😁 Definitely will be in the market for another one
The Zipper on almost all Down jackets is plastic for two reasons, weight and packability, a fashion brand or not any down product has the outdoors in its interest, Moncler are a luxury brand for sure, but the jacket still needs to work as a down jacket for more than just warmth.
Also in regards to washing any down jacket, using down wash from a brand like NikWax is defiantly the best option and learn how to reloft the down otherwise the jacket is flat and useless.
And finally I agree entirely, other brands have far better jackets for far less money, you can get a The North Face summit Series jacket that weighs less and has 800 fill power for 1/3 of the price, or a Rab down jacket of the same spec for far less again.
As you stated, they're a luxury brand, and that is what you're paying for.
My wife is a Warranty assessor for another luxury goose down jacket manufacturer. Other than the expedition jackets she says the others are cheaply manufactured and are truly awful cash grabs.
Did she ever here of the Mountaneer jacket!
That inner zipper detail on the blue one is sick. 🔥
Love these videos, it’s like a history lesson 👍🏻
Despite looking ridiculous and being quite expensive, if you're an active outdoorsman in a very cold environment, theres nothing better. Best jacket money can buy for cold weather
Thank you for the history lesson! Really cool. Did you know that Moncler is one of only three brands of France allowed to use the official French bird logo?
I love Moncler, I bought a black puffy one last year from Saks 5th Avenue and I love it. Very warm, I live in Michigan and the winters are brutal.
That thing is horrible. If there is any sanity in the world, you packed those up and sent them right back.
yes maybe on you. not on a 20 year old
@@jamiejamking It would be a 20 year old with poor taste. The person approving the look would have poor taste.
Just bought my moncler alyx 1700 euro moncler jacket today in vienna and I have to say, life's too short to think about "is it worth it or not?" if it keeps crossing your mind and keeps you excited, doesn't matter why, then just buy it and do yourself this favor. And btw Im not rich or something just working a lot at the moment haha.
Love the videos. thank you for this series. Very informative. QUESTION: Must you buy these expensive items for the videos or are are renting or borrowing them? Just curious. thanks!
Glad you actually shared your honest opinion towards the end of the video. I checked this out as I’m considering buying BADY.
Boy that thing is fugly
I’ll stick with me Eddie Bauer XV jacket. 850 fill, waterproof and highly scratch resistant fabric. Box wall construction is also important so you don’t get cold spots at the stitch seams.
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Rafael, Saint Crispin is a romanian brand and it's made in Brașov, Transilvania. Romania has a lot of skilfull artisans and they make clothes for several brands, as Burberry, Armani, Hugo Boss etc.. ok it's not a rich country, but the craftsmanship is very good. Also take a look at Valentin Frunza. He is a romanian shoe maker from Moldova. Merry Christmas
+1 I have some Romanian-made products and can speak to the quality.
I respect the roman8an products too. Greetings from Hungary.
@@Lekgab greetings from Romania. Hungary has a lot of artisans too. I think of master Laszlo Vass who' s work inspired many boot makers in Eastern Europe
No one cares about weird Romanians
@@SeaJayBelfast why are romanians weird?
I think Moncler jackets and hats are worth the price. I`m wearing Moncler for years and I never had any problems. I got a new moncler jacket in December in Milan and a hat with real blue fox fur and the quality is amazing.
just get a North Face jacket for 1/5 of the price, keeps you just as warm and looks better, quality is pretty much the same
And the North Face down is ethically produced (what the bird has naturally shedded rather than live plucked)
There are even better brands out there
Gentleman's Gazette looking forward to seeing these better brands on your channel! 😉
@@jonstern7511all the down for north face is made in Hungary.
I think jack wolfskin and helly hansen ( not the cheaper ones) could be a great quality and high performance at very low temperature.
I have a pyrenex spoutnic mate down jacket I would highly recommend it. It has 700 fill power and the same 90% down to 10% other feathers and its really high quality. Also the coat is pretty much on sale all the time you can pick one up brand new for around £300
whos watching this one day after they bought it :(
No go???
@@Saks5thFrick its a waste tbh u can probably find the same jacket for like 150 dollars people just buy it cuz the brand
Unless you're a mountain hiker and camp in freezing temperatures you don't need dawn filling. Just get a good synthetic (coreloft for example) insulated jacket - does not look so ridiculous, it's super warm, doesn't loose its properties or get ruined when its wet, no problems with washing it in a washing machine.
you looked so happy when you said "i'm wearing a moncler jacket... with a hood!"
10:13 It's not that bad, it has a GDP per capita higher than Greece, Croatia, Turkey, Russia, Bulgaria, Belarus, Montenegro, Serbia, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania, Ukraine, Moldova and Kosovo.
Prada also makes a lot of its items in Romania, and so do multiple other brands, and most luxury factories are made just outside of Bucharest where living conditions and salaries are better than a lot of places in Italy. Gucci for example makes its clothes in a Chinese immigrant city in Italy called Prato because they can get away with paying them way less money while labelling their clothes as made in Italy. So production costs are low regardless, but Moncler and Prada don't try fooling you into believing your clothes are made by Italian artisans.
Lol my man was wearing Chelsea boots and leather gloves with a moncler jacket, acting like that's what most people wear with one 😂😂
You do talk about premium materials for the zippers and yet fastener companies claim that plastic zippers actually last longer than metal. Understandably, if you just care about luxury, durability isn't a concern especially at that price point.
Moncler JACKET ARE WORTH THE MONEY
I'm learning about things I once thought as completely dismissive. However, subtle knowledge of gentleman's wear can benefit others and I. Good videos.
3:18 Daniel Craig is wearing Canada goose 😂😂
A true gentleman educates on social responsibility without engaging in politics! well done
Would love to see a "Thom Browne - is it worth it" video!!
Copped the Maya a couple years back and it was worth every penny. While everyone else was still stuck on Canada Goose (now played out and obsolete), I decided to place my bets on Moncler and I'm glad I did. The Maya still looks good to this day and i've been seeing more people wear this brand. It really holds all the warmth in despite being very light-weight for how it looks. For the price point you really do get what you pay for in terms of superior functionality and style.
Pls make a video on whether Canada Goose is worth it
I would like to see that as well.
Already filmed and edited, just waiting to be published. Stay tuned.
Unethical
I've got a canada goose quilt for my bed that's alright I guess.
Goodness are they ever worth it.
great vid....did the blue jacket have side zips? Also what is your height and weight thanks ?
I love this series. Can you do a review of the Barracuda G 9 Harrington jacket.
Hey I have a question. Which extreme winter jacket is worth the money and you personally recommend? Should I buy a fur jacket? and if so how should I wear it?
It makes you look like a roadman wannabe.
Yes definitely 👌
Wigglly Wagger 100% and we definitely don’t want that
Just a more expensive Northface nowadays. Once a proper outdoors brand, now seen covering groups of youths outside the highstreet McDonalds
Drake
He probably don’t even knows what a roadman is 😂
I like the analysis here. I can't see the value for the investment but good point about the business model seeming to be more a status symbol than anything else. I wouldn't buy one for a third of the price. Thanks for posting this. Love your videos.
I would be interested in a video about Canada Goose.
Coming soon
@@gentlemansgazette I'm no animal activist but Canada Goose are a really unethical company. I wouldn't touch their products.
@@mrgt3201 Agreed. Come on Raphael. Keep ethical (as far as it's possible) 😉
@@mrgt3201 We talk about all of it.
Gentleman's Gazette Thanks a lot, a merry Christmas.
Looks like a good and objective review. I cannot believe there are people who spend their money on a ridiculously expensive apparel, perhaps to compensate for low self-esteem.
Perfectly happy with my same-quality parka from Timberland, which cost me 3x less.
Your comment is ignorant and low self esteemed 😂
it looks like it cost $15 it looks super cheap and will not last a year of ware
Game Lift I mean it doesn’t and it will
@@Emperorhirohito19272 ?
Game Lift I’m saying it just doesn’t look cheap and like it will fall apart, it’s still a quality product you just dislike it
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I really like your conclusion and give suggestions what other options out there with similar quality but much lower price. I have to admit I am a big fan of Moncler and already spent $10K on them. But maybe it's about time that I should spend money more wisely in the future. Thanks!
You should make a video on how to start off with a low budget
True.
I recommend a moose knuckles jacket, I bought a down coat for £500. Great quality and very comfortable, you will not get cold.
Well now I can't wait for the Canada Goose video.