Suit Jackets, Sport Coats, & Blazers: What's the Difference? - Menswear Definitions

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    When you shop at a department store or large clothing retailer, you’ll often see any sort of tailored jacket for sale listed as a “blazer.” But not every jacket with lapels and buttons can accurately bear this name!
    What is a Suit Jacket?
    A suit jacket is precisely that: the jacket belonging to a two- or three-part outfit including matching pants and/or waistcoat, which together make up a complete suit. Thus, a suit jacket always originates from a pairing that uses the same exact fabric for both (or all) pieces. In other words, being made as part of an ensemble is the essential defining feature of a suit jacket.
    What is a Sport Coat?
    A sport coat is also known as an “odd jacket,” odd not in the sense of being weird-even though some sport coat patterns can be quite strange-but in the sense of being different from the pants (which can also be called “odd trousers”). Confusion can arise here, as well; look no further than someone who isn’t up to speed on the technicalities of menswear seeing your sport coat and saying, “nice suit!” This isn’t right, but accept the compliment graciously without correcting the mistake.
    What is a Blazer?
    Technically, a blazer is the most specific of the three jacket types-and also the rarest-because it has to fulfill certain criteria to be defined strictly as such. For example, a blazer can come in a solid color (most often navy blue), or incorporate features like a contrast piping or a striped pattern. All other patterns, speaking most technically, disqualify a jacket from being a blazer.
    Everyday language often fails to recognize the differences when defining suit jackets, blazers, and sport coats. And while there are certain distinctions among these three forms of jacket, the endless options offered for sale today feature a great many hybrids, as well. There are casual suits with unstructured jackets that fit like sport coats, and blazers that fit the same way too. These reflect the prevailing trend for more relaxed and less formal cuts, blurring the lines in the process. Even so, those who appreciate precision will want to ensure that they’re using the proper terminology.
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  • @coltsavage4490
    @coltsavage4490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Great video Preston. I get tired of people calling my suit jackets Blazers, and now all I have to do is show them this video.

  • @krunoslavkovacec1842
    @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Preston's face in the thumbnail is priceless.

  • @blackbeard9545
    @blackbeard9545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I like the little liquor table in the background.

    • @Michael_R1957
      @Michael_R1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would love to know where you can find a liquor table like that one. Thank you.

  • @westfieldartworks8188
    @westfieldartworks8188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I froze the video at the 10 second mark. This should be good. This subject confuses SO MANY people, including me. I think Preston with his very articulate manner and attention to very specific detail, is exactly the person needed for this type of subject. Thanks.

  • @karenrich9092
    @karenrich9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This is EXTREMELY informative! I almost couldn't handle it all, but I can always watch it again. Now I need to check out more of your channel.

  • @liem11
    @liem11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I have basically been wearing a sports coat for a while now and most people think its a suit. They have no idea.

  • @paulfuente87
    @paulfuente87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just met you at a whataburger in San Antonio! True gentleman!

    • @elguapo90
      @elguapo90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that where he is based?

  • @aravioli4203
    @aravioli4203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In old French, and archaic English, the word “Blazon” meant “crest”. Thus the Blazer, traditionally meant any jacket with a crest on it. And then the popularity of the blazer springing from academia, brought it into the mass market.

  • @garmtpug
    @garmtpug 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Another very interesting video! I love hearing where some terms/words come from and "blazer" is one I won't forget. Very informative and succinct! Well done again, Preston! My favorite teacher!! :-)

  • @WhimsicalEloquence
    @WhimsicalEloquence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Great video. Just to be clear when you refer to British field sports the term is "shooting" (e.g. pheasant shooting) or "stalking" for deer. Hunting refers to hunting on horseback for fox, deer etc. with hounds.

    • @crazyjoeshorts5256
      @crazyjoeshorts5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      In America, its all hunting. Unless its alligator, then they call it fishing, because you catch them on a line and then shoot.

    • @Xitaychin
      @Xitaychin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you tho, for non english-speaking such info is very useful!

    • @nikkingman
      @nikkingman ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to be clear, who cares.

  • @thestarkknightreturns
    @thestarkknightreturns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Preston's diction is classy and perfect.

    • @stepchildofsoul
      @stepchildofsoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to hear him recite the lyrics to "Stagger Lee"...

  • @rosssmith9870
    @rosssmith9870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Too many rules. As a blue collar truck driver in the US it's pretty simple. Wear a goodwill suit jacket with jcpenny black slacks and a jcpenny shirt European cut slim fit. Affordable Italian Spezzato style and your better dressed than 98% of the men around you. I do it occasionally and the difference between wearing T shirt and jeans is amazing. The women notice and start conversations and the service I get in establishments is stellar.

    • @DHIX33333
      @DHIX33333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get a lot of sport coats from thrift shops. My office wardrobe is quite elaborate but I haven't spent a lot of money on it.

  • @ThunderRazorYT
    @ThunderRazorYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I certainly learned something, but didn't expect to. Great video!

  • @fokkelman64231
    @fokkelman64231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Learned a lot today. Thank you!

  • @JohnRay1969
    @JohnRay1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel. It's nice to know not only WHAT we wear but WHY and HOW.

  • @jamesR1990
    @jamesR1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I picked up a deep green blazer with rich brown buttons not too long ago. Absolutely love it. It is probably my most worn jacket now

  • @tomevans6582
    @tomevans6582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With the UK in a lockdown I'm dusting off the informal smoking jacket! The content on this channel is brilliant. Keep up the good work chaps.

    • @TheBinklemNetwork
      @TheBinklemNetwork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You shall emerge like a dapper Phoenix. Smoke and all eh?

  • @Camrographer
    @Camrographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a hypothesis regarding the blanket usage of the word blazer. I think that sport jacket/coat are commonly understood as casual jackets. Essentially denoting an active lifestyle type of garment. On the other hand a blazer will denote a type of structured garment similar in style to a suit jacket. It's utility to convey an idea (even as a misnomer) is helpful.
    If I wanted to thoroughly search for a suit jacket style of garment I would use Suit jacket/separates, sport coat/jacket and blazer. I think this is particularly useful for finding second hand garments.

  • @RizwanKler
    @RizwanKler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cheers for this informative vid Preston 👍

  • @shanewright2772
    @shanewright2772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That pocket square is spectacular.

  • @truthreigns7
    @truthreigns7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you!!! I have been very curious about this topic.

  • @SlimRhyno
    @SlimRhyno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for creating this fantastic guide for the modern man.

  • @ikhanarendra8913
    @ikhanarendra8913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On point educational video as usual... Great job you guys !!!

  • @bengunn1980
    @bengunn1980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was an amazingly informative video. Thank you.

  • @jhh162
    @jhh162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great info, thanks guys! 👍🏾

  • @jeremyt2212
    @jeremyt2212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always, guys. I've always admired tweed jackets, though I've never owned one. I'm going have a browse through your older videos to see if you've done one on different ways to wear a tweed jacket today.

  • @drspaseebo410
    @drspaseebo410 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent ! Many thanks for clarifying all points so well !

  • @theactingape6925
    @theactingape6925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info Preston, well done !

  • @ColombianLNP
    @ColombianLNP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The video i never knew i needed ! Thank you so much. Cheers from Colombia amigo!

  • @Jayjee762
    @Jayjee762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video! I’ve wondered about this for a while, so I found this very helpful :)

  • @Vandernick
    @Vandernick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and super helpful content!

  • @angelofrevengeable
    @angelofrevengeable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Preston is the man

  • @adrian_9951
    @adrian_9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information, especially the blazer part

  • @tonytran07
    @tonytran07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey!!!
    I remember you! You're the one who taught me about watches!
    Fancy as always sir!

  • @davidhelvering
    @davidhelvering 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for the information.

  • @davidharber6790
    @davidharber6790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Frasier Crane would be proud :-)

  • @gvetech
    @gvetech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. Very informative.

  • @inthezone4123
    @inthezone4123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And now I know! Thanks, Preston.

  • @MartinParnham
    @MartinParnham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for the video. I have a sports jacket, which I've always referred to as such, so it's good to know I wasn't getting it wrong all this time!
    By the way, I love that Austin Reed poster and I have bought a vintage AR suit off eBay off the back of seeing it. Traditional British brand!

  • @validbutatwhatcost8754
    @validbutatwhatcost8754 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A blazer and and a matching color pair of pants or contrasting color, if you choose to go with a contrasting color of pants, go with shoes that match the pants and a shirt that compliments or is an opposite of the jacket/blazer.

  • @JuniorExecutive1987
    @JuniorExecutive1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A deep dive on sport coats and where to find them would be good to watch

  • @williamarthur4801
    @williamarthur4801 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for confirming what I knew by upbringing / intuition without being sure why.

  • @ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275
    @ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Italians call it "Spezzato." I call it "saving money on clothes"

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video 👏👏👏 I can appreciate the history behind the items. Personally I only wear suits for some reason sport coats & blazers does not appeal to my sense of style.

  • @AJMacDonaldJr
    @AJMacDonaldJr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Preston! 😃

  • @user-zg5ei1ep9x
    @user-zg5ei1ep9x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you!

  • @jdsheleg8332
    @jdsheleg8332 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. I have a wedding to attend and it will be informal at noon time. I am planning to wear white pants and a blazer ( which I still have to buy).

  • @redscale82
    @redscale82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    That bow tie looks like an advertisement from a wafer we have here in Sweden. The pattern looks identical and are called kexchoklad.

    • @Bjeddul
      @Bjeddul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha märkte inte det tills jag läste din kommentar skrämmande likt ju hahaha.

    • @johanjohansen7572
      @johanjohansen7572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha jag tyckte också det.

    • @redscale82
      @redscale82 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Är kanske baserad på det

    • @moobcars6490
      @moobcars6490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sjukt likt!

    • @902d
      @902d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Men är det kex eller "shex"?

  • @rastrats
    @rastrats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the best video I have seen on this topic. Sports jackets are frequently more expensive to buy than full suits, despite being 'casual' or informal. Is there another term we could use then, as 'casual' is normally equated with inexpensive?
    Suits are for the city and therefore an indoor environment (the office). They therefore require a coat to cover outdoors. Sports jackets on the other hand are for the countryside and therefore contain elements of both, as they are required to offer protection from the elements. That's why they are three buttoned, slightly raised, worn with longer sleeves to cover the shirt sleeve completely. You can also wear more hardwearing trousers with a sports.
    That covers men. Unfortunately, women's business attire is all over the place, which suggests that gender should just stay at home or occupy themselves in traditional female roles such as nursing, childrearing or teaching.

    • @seikibrian8641
      @seikibrian8641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "... 'casual' is normally equated with inexpensive..."
      I've never used it that way. "Casual" means "relaxed" or "informal," but not "inexpensive."

    • @rastrats
      @rastrats 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seikibrian8641 Thanks for that clarification. Casual, informal or relaxed, nevertheless, have connotations of inferiority to formal. I suggest use of the term 'loungewear'.

    • @seikibrian8641
      @seikibrian8641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rastrats Confusingly, a suit jacket is also known as a lounge jacket. When I first heard the latter, I pictured a velvet smoking jacket, but nope, it was a suit jacket. (And in eastern Europe, "smoking jacket" or its equivalent refers to a tuxedo.)

  • @QPRTokyo
    @QPRTokyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @Nick_the_Troubadour
    @Nick_the_Troubadour 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos

  • @akmaru
    @akmaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just in time!

  • @inregionecaecorum
    @inregionecaecorum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some time I have worn a blazer with matching trousers for formal events where others would wear a suit. In a sense it is a suit because the fabric of the trousers and jacket mix, but it doesn't half stand out with the gold buttons, amongst the boring conventional suit wearers.

  • @SanicTheHidgehag
    @SanicTheHidgehag 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank goodness you made this video 😅I trust you to lay down the facts!

  • @andrec7440
    @andrec7440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @Indiskret1
    @Indiskret1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved this one!

  • @colleenm.6578
    @colleenm.6578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!!

  • @sprezzatura2296
    @sprezzatura2296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful work as usual, Gentleman's Gazette team.

  • @baklei7100
    @baklei7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks !

  • @Symmetre
    @Symmetre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative.

  • @Kuriousape
    @Kuriousape 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Interesting and informative. I was saddened by the closure of Austin Reed, and the poster in the background is a nice touch.

  • @baongocnguyenpham1600
    @baongocnguyenpham1600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    rather a long video to me, but an informed one as well

  • @joey_yong
    @joey_yong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video

  • @trentpiche4095
    @trentpiche4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this could very well be the best video on YT! i am really tired of people saying eww youre in a suit for no reason. or why are you wearing a blazer to go out to walk. and im just like umm sport jacket and jeans, look it up sometime. then theyre like um that doesent look athletic and im just like *faceplant*

  • @sciavash
    @sciavash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, on EBay you can easily determine the type of the jacket when they're being listed.

  • @ravisriram6746
    @ravisriram6746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who has spent many years in the retail menswear industry, it annoys me to no end to hear people calling sport coats "blazers", among other misnomers

  • @AnAZPatriot
    @AnAZPatriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wear a felt leather cowboy hat, caimen boots, cowhide gun leather belt, denim pants, and a oiled duster when the weather turns. How did the algorithm figure to put this in my feed?
    Thumbed ya up anyhoo.

  • @itznoxy7193
    @itznoxy7193 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sport coat is perfect. Any tips on where to find one like that?

  • @txkevin3467
    @txkevin3467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I must say, I will be very glad when the current trend of "high water" pants (ie too short) with no socks is GONE. It just looks horrible.

    • @Griffden
      @Griffden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does not IMO. Personally I’m not a fan of dress socks and think a break looks too baggy.

    • @Lorenzodial
      @Lorenzodial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I like the new socks look and the socks look. Not bad either way to me.

    • @NorseBlade
      @NorseBlade 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. It looks particularly bad with an overly slim cut and gives the effect that something is missing. Seeing that looks like one wore their younger brother's pants and forgot socks.

    • @maxalaintwo3578
      @maxalaintwo3578 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Current trend? This style has been around before your grandparents 😂

    • @ParisLawLess
      @ParisLawLess 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's never going away

  • @alexk3948
    @alexk3948 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:58 nice to see John from 40 Over Fashion

  • @Sivil-D
    @Sivil-D ปีที่แล้ว

    Austin Reed poster behind you - elegant. I recently stumbled upon a full suit at my local thrift store by Austin Reed. I love it! Are Reed suits vintage and worth alot of money?

  • @hpottstock
    @hpottstock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent as usual! I liked Preston posing in a very classic gentlemanly way... chin up, hand nonchalantly in blazer's pocket, almost like Michael Cane does in "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" ;)

  • @joshuas2601
    @joshuas2601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got a half sport coat; it’s not patterned but it’s got patch pockets.

  • @8135824
    @8135824 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on Norfolk jackets

  • @overclockedgamer1272
    @overclockedgamer1272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really want to see them do a Tom Ford video

  • @Jnpz
    @Jnpz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guus are great!!

    • @Jnpz
      @Jnpz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      guys*

  • @JohnstasBACK
    @JohnstasBACK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just got a ralph lauren Herringbone sport coat & i'm SO fucken excited‼️😁😁😁

  • @frankgyori2740
    @frankgyori2740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instead of plain or otherwise stamped brass buttons on a blazer, I am wondering if brass buttons with ones own monogram deeply etched into them would be an appropriate addition to the look of the garment?

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, the elegant uniforms with the club's emblem on the chest pocket worn by football players are blazers, right?

  • @ericmatthews7975
    @ericmatthews7975 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do you think of a Royal Blue suit coat with jet black trousers, need your advice please

  • @djalixer
    @djalixer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool!

  • @hawktalon7890
    @hawktalon7890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly didn't know that there was an official term for putting a suit jacket on with something else. Good to know; although I doubt I'll ever use spezzato in a casual conversation.

  • @davidfernandes1608
    @davidfernandes1608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video but hasn't this already been covered?

  • @DrNetz-nf4bn
    @DrNetz-nf4bn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where do they find these old paintings of Gentlemans? I Love them!

    • @DrNetz-nf4bn
      @DrNetz-nf4bn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      realmakebelieve thanks! And i had found another way a few minutes ago: search for „Gentleman‘s Gazette Paintings“ by Google 😊

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I once saw, at LA's Walt Disney Concert Hall, a young chap wearing a suit jacket, suit pants, and sandals with his toes sticking out.

  • @joebradshaw5542
    @joebradshaw5542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is better

  • @dpledford1
    @dpledford1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to make a trip to Blakey Mitchell which it the only suit shop we have in the entire area. I wish I did have the money to build my wardrobe the way I would love to.

  • @playtoy_cardi_7201
    @playtoy_cardi_7201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They used a kingsman picture nice 🙂

  • @johncrichton7461
    @johncrichton7461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Christ! Preston is offensively handsome.
    I feel like Gollum every time he's on screen.

  • @thewamp9306
    @thewamp9306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time seeing something from this channel. Good stuff but the guys sounds likes he's gonna cry at any minute. 10/10

  • @gagal3332
    @gagal3332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to do a video about how to wear a suit like james bond

  • @sumankhatua3835
    @sumankhatua3835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:58 hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @alenpaul2523
    @alenpaul2523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please tell me what is a tuxedo?

  • @TriPham-sn9jj
    @TriPham-sn9jj ปีที่แล้ว

    So sport coat either with inner brief or t-shirt golf wear and sport coat with tie only with brief

  • @blah555able
    @blah555able 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sharp!

  • @douweschilstra3231
    @douweschilstra3231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's your opinion on popover shirts?
    When would they be appropriate to wear?

  • @javierdiazsantana
    @javierdiazsantana ปีที่แล้ว

    Can a sports jacket, pants and vest made out of tweed be worn as a full suit in a vintage style?

  • @abbyfishman4954
    @abbyfishman4954 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been searching online to find out what type of pocket I found on a Jack wills jacket at a thrift store. Was hoping you could help me! It has a curved snap-closure opening around the second of 3 buttons on the front. I can’t find info on it anywhere! Any ideas?

  • @fitzgeraldstoner2200
    @fitzgeraldstoner2200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love my sport coat

  • @GrangerGangster
    @GrangerGangster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of course, to further confuse the issue, are uses of terms like “sports jacket” and “suit coat.” I think it would be good to standardize terms for garments based on clear reference points from physiology. Like coat vs. jacket is really based on where the bottom hem falls in relation to the waist, correct? Jackets fall just to the waist and coats fall (any of various amounts, depending on particular style) below the waist.

    • @seikibrian8641
      @seikibrian8641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not that simple. For example, waistcoats stop at the waist and military field jackets fall below the waist. And the top-most garment in a suit has typically been called a jacket, not a coat.

    • @GrangerGangster
      @GrangerGangster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SeikiBrian they do now, but waistcoats in centuries past used to go well below the waist with large pocketed skirts. When you talk about “field jackets” I’m not sure where the term was first coined, but for the U.S. Army, the M1938 and later M1941 field jackets were only waist-length. So, the later evolution of field jackets in the U.S. parlance only seems to suggest that the term “field jacket” was kept in use despite how the garments changed (falling below the waist as you suggest). I would be interested in that term’s use with other countries to see how it matches with hem lengths. And perhaps the top part of a suit is now usually called a jacket, but when the suit we know today came about (more or less the 1860s - yes, I mean the decade of the Civil War, not the Civil Rights movement) the terms for the top piece in the ensemble were “lounge coat” in British English and “sack coat” in American English. Yikes! That’s confusing for sure haha. Also, there is a phrase that I think might still be in common use, “coat and tie,” that to me suggests that it was still being called a coat into more recent times. My entire point of the first comment was (hopefully) to recognize that there IS confusion but to espouse standardization. Maybe it’s all a pipe dream!