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I lived in Salt Lake City for 3 years. I am Catholic. There are many Catholic churches. Salt Lake City is like Vatican City for Mormons. Everyone at work was Mormon. People are nice. General Conference is covered on the news. My friends are, Mormons, Catholics, Pentecostal, and atheist. Salt Lake City is not judgy, it has a California attitude. People mind their own business. Salt Lake City is a Western state, meaning rent and homes for sale are expensive compared to Texas. Everyone enjoys outdoor activities. The Parks and Mountains are amazing. Utah is beautiful. I cried when I left during the Pandemic. I will always love Utah.
I don't think so? SLC has the most diverse religions, probably more than any other UT cities/regions. Most other UT cities have a higher percentage of mormons.
Appreciate your video. I’m an active member of the church. I feel like your comments were really accurate. I think it’s nice if people realize that their neighbor might ask if they are a member. They might invite them to church or some sort of neighborhood activity. Speaking for myself, I’m not out to convert you. I just want to get to know you and welcome you. As long as you’re a good neighbor, I don’t care. BTW. I don’t know many people who consider caffeine a vice anymore. Medical weed is available and I’m told it’s not that hard to get. At least that’s what I’ve been told 😉
Hi Chris, I appreciate your comment. I believe your right to be religious is the exact same right I have to be non-religious, so from a political perspective, I defend your right to practice your religion safely and freely and that you aren't attacked or disrespected by bigots for being a member of your church. However, 85% of my interactions with religious people have been overwhelmingly negative since many people of various religions cry-bully their way into legislating my freedoms away, all while cosplaying as people that pretend to love freedom. Just know, I would not be disturbed or angry if you attempted to convert me once, I think people should be left alone after the first try, regardless of the direction of conversion (atheists should leave theists alone after the first try). However, the overwhelming majority of conversion efforts come from Theists. Having that said, I enjoy this 15% pocket where you and I can be mutually respectful. I'm very nice and supportive of religious people that give me back the same respect. Have a nice day dude! The weed shops in SLC would be cool, but I'm drug free haha, well, with the exception of caffeine (which I'm trying to quit lol)
Yes, Medical Weed is available, at least I read that somewhere. Incidentally, I overheard that medical weed actually makes Fast & Testimony meetings fun! Peace & Love
@@tenidaska9984I also live in Utah, and I would say that more places are staying open on Sunday, but one should still check Sunday hours. Almost every place has reduced Sunday hours though.
Great video and thank you for the respectful tone. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and have now lived about half of my life in Northern California and the other half here in Salt Lake County (east bench 😄). Will always kind of consider the Bay Area home but we have loved being in Utah. I can tell you that most members of the LDS Church desire to really try and be great neighbors regardless of your religious affiliation. If someone is interested in talking religion we are always open to that but very very few members would ever push that on someone who wasn’t interested. People here are genuinely concerned about their neighbors, they will help out if you ever need anything but really people can live however they want and do just fine. I for one welcome you if your considering making Utah your home!
Relocating single to Utah, the dating scene is not very favorable if you are non Mormon. Liquor laws are built in the way that basically makes it very inconvenient. Low choices of alcohol at the liquer stores, not enouth of nice places to get a drink. Liquor stores belong to the state so don't expect great selections, there are only a few stores as well, so long lines and ran down atmosphere at those stores are common. You can not buy wine at a groceries stores only at the state Liquor stores. It's becoming super overcrowded everywhere including lakes, parks, canyons, restorants etc. Bad air quality in the winter plus constant droughts. Some things...
No big deal. Virginia, where I live, has state liquor stores. So does South Carolina, where they're called "red dot" stores, because there's a big red dot on the front of the building. I lived in Montgomery County, Maryland, which operates the liquor stores. The rest of the state, it's private. Me, I gave up drinking over 40 years ago.
There is 41 liquor stores in Utah. I wouldn’t call that a few. The selection and the prices are quite good. I’m not sure what liquor laws you’re talking about that make it inconvenient ? There used to be a few wacky laws like the Zion curtain and not being able to get 5 percent beer at gas stations, those are no longer a thing. I think the restaurants and bars are quite good especially in the down town area. I would love to hear more of your opinion. I have a different one than you but that’s okay.
The dating is fine if you are not Mormon. It’s not like everyone in Utah is Mormon. I would suggest to avoid hating on Mormons which some are the nicest and most generous people that I have ever met. You clearly have never lived in a crappy city if you think salt lake is bad
As a native of SLC, Utah, I can remember experiencing a difficult time in getting hired for a position due to being a non mormon or not belonging to a ward back in the day of 90's. I have since moved to the state of TN due to this fact. I found my home state very biased and discrimative. Utah is a beautiful state, but for a religion that states they believe in Jesus Christ definitely lacked the commandment of Love your neighbors did not exist. I seen a lot of suffering of families that never received help from the cingrtional care minister or their benevolence team. Thank you for providing this update on my home state.
I grew up in Salt Lake City and lived there for 39 years, but relocated to Arizona in 1999. Salt Lake City - and Utah in general, is a beautiful place to live. But I have found I prefer not having to deal with snow, so I'll probably never move back. I do visit ever couple of years, and things have really changed in the past 20 years! It would be nice if the LDS Church kept its nose out of the lives on non-members, but the liquor laws, and lack of gambling (even lottery tickets) is ridiculous. To some people, that's probably just fine, but I like having the opportunity to make adult decisions for myself. As a non-LDS kid growing up in Utah, I was excluded from a lot of things because I didn't go to the neighborhood ward (church), like some kids parents wouldn't let them play with me. I saw some of the same things happening to my own kids years later, which helped my decision to relocate.
I'm from Hawaii, visited Ogden in 2023, and drank at 2 bars.We met 2 nice women there and played pool with them. They were so happy to meet someone from Hawaii. Nice people there for sure. I didn't even think about the Mormon laws. This is interesting information. We drove to Idaho, and my son lives there. Both beautiful states. ❤
First impressions--there's something so oddly charming about seeing YOUR place shown all DRAMATIC with like COOL MONTAGE and BADASS MUSIC while it shows _familiar_ store chains that YOU have shopped at/driven past for decades...when it's not a famous part of the country that already gets mentioned in mainstream media all the time. :) Awww. Secondly--you're exactly right about how Utah Valley is WAY WAY WAY more Mormon. I think it might be _slightly_ less than when I first moved here, but it's still.....a lot. Provo is more the stereotype of what non-Utahns think Salt Lake City is, and growing up here, as a girl whom everybody expected to get married and start poppin' out babies as soon as possible just because of how I was born was...hoo boy. I knew a whole lot of people who had never even considered the EXISTENCE of other points of view/religions/etc, and some for whom they'd never been outside of Utah, to the point where the rest of the map was...a void. Just a big white void. It can get VERY VERY VERY culty here in Utah Valley--I know they don't like that word, but it's true--I"ve had cases where I've been going home on a school bus, a SECULAR, state, schoolbus--and someone sang a bit of a Mormon hymn and literally EVERYBODY ON THE ENTIRE BUS EXCEPT ME started singing along perfectly. I felt like I was in a Twilight Zone episode. It was like being the one person in a scene in a Disney musical who doesn't know the song everybody is suddenly breaking into. ("Why does EVERYBODY know this song?!") Now don't get me wrong, Provo/Orem is kind of a charming town of just the right size--big enough to have SOME city-esque elements, small enough to where you can freely walk down the street at whatever pace you want and breathe the fresh air, and I can see a mountain sunset/sunrise like out of literal oldschool paintings by just standing on my front porch, EVERY DAY (unless it's super cloudy). Some other pluses (in my opinion, anyway) include things like the Frontrunner train (it's a double-decker! And they allow you to eat on it! Some seats have outlets next to them!), the library, which is still active and has a lot of fun free activities, and the local restaurant chain, Village Inn, which is kinda like Dennys but the food is WAY better. But, the times I've been to Salt Lake itself, I have been impressed. For all of its reputation as the Mormon Capital (which is POLITICALLY true, if not culturally), it seems every time I go there it's to look at a cool international festival or an awesome science thing. The Natural History Museum of Utah is FREAKING. HUGE and covers literally _every_ part of the Earth, from down into the core and how plate tectonics work, up into the literal clouds, with all kinds of human cultural stuff and yes, dinosaurs! along the way. There's also an awesome rocks and crystals part, including some crystals taller than me. (Admittedly, I am pretty short. :P) For me, as a Provoan, Salt Lake City is where I go to feel a LESS religiousy atmosphere, and enjoy some more _mix_ of attitudes and culture. (I realise that from what I said earlier, that kinda sounds like "Wow, it is SO much nicer here in the prison yard than it is in my cell!" but seriously, SLC is actually kinda cool.)
I’ve lived here my whole life and you’re right there’s not that much traffic on Sundays etc. but if you keep bringing people here it won’t be that way no more what are you thinking about
lived in Layton for 4 years in early 2000s. We loved it and wonder sometimes why we moved back to the east coast. Aside from a few odd balls, people were very friendly and happy. Winter could be harsh.
My wife got starred at a few times at restaurants by older Mormon men when she was drinking a beer. Also, working in an office with a majority of Mormons is really challenging. They don't talk about much. They mostly care about their church and their family and church events. They don't cuss, and they are always "fake nice" not to ever offend anyone and everything is "always great" attitude, which is not the case in a real world. The fact that their kids are being shielded from the real world (can't watch a lot of movies or TV shows, can't listen to certain music etc...) makes the Mormon kids seem kinda weird and unrelatable to kids that grew up in a different state. We know that there are several neighbors that do not talk to us because we are not Mormon! We know that there are kids that don't talk or are not allowed to talk to our kids because we are not Mormon! That's the kind of stuff you will experience here in Utah. Makes us think what kind of future our kids can have here? Most colleges are Mormon, how about relationships and dating? Mormon kids can date and marry only to another Mormon! We moved from GA 2 years ago and the culture here is really the main issue. To a non-Mormon who never experienced it it's a huge and real shock to the system. It is slowly changing because of so many people moving here but it will take a very long time in my opinion for the culture here to be somewhat normal. Or you can just move to less Mormon places like Park City or Ogden but that will get you more crime (Ogden) or super expensive living (Park City). But the mountains and outdoor activities here are what's keeping us here! The best skying, the best camping, hiking, national parks everywhere....just gorgeous
Wow super interesting. I always hated when certain ppl have that fake nice everything is always perfect and amazing type of attitude when you know it’s not the way life goes. Everyone goes thru things and has struggles or bad days, not every hour of every day is perfect and happy. It’s not realistic. Also the fact you said they don’t really talk about much is crazy but I understand. You wanting to BS about life or wanting to joke around with someone at work can’t really happen because they aren’t like that? That’s wild sounds boring lol.
So basically you can’t just bs about normal everyday life or girls or partying with someone at work huh? Like talking to a brick wall? No personality? Sounds like they don’t ever have anything interesting to talk about that would hold your attention in a convo.
Not sure where you worked but I'm LDS and many of my work associates are "non Mormon" and we talk about all kinds of things other than our church and have a great time. Do we have differences, sure but you make it sound like we're ALL a bunch of fuddy duddy's. Out of hundreds of people you have been around in Utah restaurants, a couple of old dudes starring bothered you? I assure you most of us don't care that you are having alcoholic drinks. maybe they thought your wife was hot? I think only the most extreme members would tell their kids not to associate with non members. We have never suggested such to our kids. I'm sorry you had that experience. Most people like the sense of family and community that the people of Utah hold in high regard. It may be a little much for other people. However, perfect we definitely are not! I enjoyed this guys perspective and hope your experience improves 🙂
I'm a non-mormon and I have 1 friend that I do things with...after living in SLC for 13 years!! I have lived in 6 states and I've never had this experience in any other state. Seattle did take some time to get a tribe together and Tucson was the friendliest and took no time at all. I used to have a great attitude about living here because it is so beautiful and to me the traffic is not a problem and it feels super safe. However it is lonely not having a tribe which makes me very sad.
Thank you for being inclusive to those of us who are relocating from a different planet. People from earth never think of us but you were inclusive with your language and i really appreciate it ❤
Spring and fall in SLC are the best. Its getting over populated tho. Use to be a great little ski and artsy town/city. Had a mellow pleasant vibe until 2010. Beautiful mountain ranges.
We must learn to just laugh at mormon ism. Its so absurd that we must treat it as the joke that it is. There is no need to worry about those folks. Utah is great.... Utah is more stylish than Colorado and cheaper... !
I grew up in Idaho but lived in Utah for 11 years before moving to the east coast. My former business partner grew up in NYC but came to Utah for college and is still there now in retirement. He is not Mormon (I am) but lives living there because the grocery stores are not crowded on Sunday and other venues have similar circumstances and he loves the environment - clean city, close to the mountains and ski resorts etc.
Utah is one of the most beautiful states in the US for scenery! I live in Australia and would love to reside in Utah, but to get permanent residency in the US is very challenging!
Thanks for your perspective. As a Latter-day Saint who grew up in Utah, it’s interesting to hear. I felt it was fair. I can imagine Utah would present some challenges if you are not a member, but hopefully people recognize the good. Living outside of Utah as a member has its challenges as well. Still not used to the much higher crime rates and being such a minority. But it’s good overall. Utah is what you make of it. If you want to see the bad, you will see it. If you want to see the good, you will see that too.
Nice video. Was that trail you started on near the "H Rock"? I grew up in Utah as a non-Mormon. Overall, I'd say Salt Lake/Utah is one of the best areas of the country. I've also lived on the east coast, Texas, and other parts of the South. The biggest consideration for non-Mormons is probably your career field. Some sectors aren't very impacted by religion, while other sectors are. My father once inquired about a job with the state government. He was asked if he had a "Temple Recommend," which is an obvious way to determine whether or not a person is LDS. You have to consider that in some fields/sectors your hiring/promotion opportunities will be impacted by religion. On the other hand, I've also heard that the tech sector hires a lot of people from out of state, and that religion is not much of an issue. I had a Muslim friend from Sri Lanka who worked in Salt Lake as an engineer, he had a great career and never had any problems.
As an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints it saddens me that our friends wouldn’t notice much of a difference. I would hope anyone would want to move to Utah because their LDS neighbors were so friendly, so kind, and so serviceable… that would be what I would hope people would notice as a difference. 😊
I am mid 40’s, divorced and a Christian, and considering SLC after my oldest leaves for college. I love skiing and the outdoors so obviously this is a huge draw for me. My only concern is being able to find someone to settle down with. If it’s like trying to find a needle in a haystack, then I’ll probably look at Denver.
I grew up in Utah, but no longer live there. Although I am ex-Mormon now I still have fond memories of living there and may end up back there some day. Salt Lake county, as you mentioned, is generally a nice place to live for a non-Mormon. However, I wouldn't unequivocally say the same about Utah county. I went to school and worked there for a few years and I definitely overheard my fair share of anti-lgbtq remarks, usually from people that didn't know I was ex-Mormon at time. They may not say anything to your face, and it may be gradually changing, but the older generation is still not very welcoming to more liberal views and lifestyles. You may be fine if you just keep to yourself, but if you prefer to be vocal and express yourself, Utah county, and some other more rural areas, may not be as nice a place to live.
It’s a beautiful place to live. The mountains are beautiful and close. Doesn’t matter if you’re Mormon or not. It’s a great place to live. In general Mormons are pretty good neighbors.
I know this video is a year old but I’m thinking of moving to SLC as a non Mormon lol..I’m from the northeast originally but having been living and working in Lake Havasu City last 5 years..I’m thinking about flying out mid October 2024 for a cpl days and if it’s cool I’m down for a change..being from the northeast I don’t judge anyone and I’m a young 51 year old gym outdoorsy cat..restaurant business 36 years ..I’m a magnet for awesome people ..appreciate u brother..I’ll reach out when I decide what dates I’m coming in October
If you are living downtown, is it possible to live comfortably without a car? I'm trying to decide if it's worth keeping my car. I will be relocating there in a couple of months.
While that does depend on your shopping and working needs/conditions, I would say that all you need is a bike! They have bike lanes in a lot of downtown areas.
Good video! I’d say the facts of logistics are covered well. Although I see a lack of perspective on the implications of being a poc and or queer non Mormon living in Utah. Possibly because of lack of experience, although that doesn’t mean it not a different reality for those people. Regardless, the narratives that the church has on those groups of people, Aswell as the different laws that the church has backed to oppress queer individuals and women have a direct effect on how those people are treated by their community and the law. (Trans and abortive laws) another notable mention is the porn law: you have to provide picture ID to assess it online
Anyone is welcome to reply to my comment. Prior to losing my to covid on 12/18/21, we were planning on relocating to Utah. I'm 38, single now and I can careless about drinking at all and I don't do drugs either. If the dating scene sucks, then so be it, especially since im latino. I don't cause trouble and I keep to myself pretty much. I've done a little bit research and Utah seems to have a low crime rate, which is a plus. It'll be a new experience indeed. Not that it matters but I'm coming from Arizona, which is a red state as well.
This was super helpful! We are considering moving to SLC in a couple of years with our school-aged kids. One of my biggest worries is that my kids will feel excluded because they aren’t Mormon.
You can get into a place for 3.5 to 5% however if you’re looking to avoid PMI you need that 20%. It just depends on each person situation and they should get prequalified first. My brother lives near Fort Hill Air Force Base and there’s not really an issue being a non-Mormon but you will be talked to about it for surerr asked about it. I’m actually contemplating on moving in the next six months to a year myself.
Roman Catholic is not PART of Christianity. For 1495 years it was, and still is, THE Christian church. There are many groups who have adopted those portions of the religion they like and emphasize. The only other Church that can lay that claim is the Byzantine Catholic Church centered in Istanbul, Turkey. The Roman Church fell victim to the temptation of the corruption that follows from power. Most, but not all, corruption (eg. opposition to women’s ‘ health care) has been rooted out of the doctrine, but some corruption in administration ( eg. the Church bank) is still rampant. But, for all its faults it is still the standard of Christianity. BTW, I was baptized a Presbyterian, confirmed a Methodist, converted a Baptist, reconverted an Episcopalian, and adopted a Roman Catholic when I got married.
I just moved to Sugar House, which is on the east side of Salt Lake three years ago during the pandemic. It was nothing like I expected. I expected there to be Mormons everywhere and missionaries at my door every hour. Yes, there are more more men here than any other state, but other than when you see a church or temple, it’s not like it’s down your throat or anything. I’ve met good people here that were Mormon, non-Mormon, Catholic, Pentecostal, and atheist. Honestly if I had to pick who was the good people and who were the bad people wouldn’t go by any religion because I’ve met great people from all types of religions here, and I’ve met assholes from every religion here. I don’t think it has anything to do with the religion, or lack there of, but rather the person. I’ll tell you one thing though I really do love Utah and I love living in sugarhouse. It’s a beautiful state. People get a little brave behind the wheel and think they’re Billy bad ass until you follow them home after they flipped you off when they ran a stop, sign and nearly killed you, and then they won’t get out of their car and they call the police but other than that I mean there’s worse things I mean it could be Chicago where people just kill people for the sake of killing people. Overall, I really do like living here but I do miss the ocean. I’ve never lived further than an hour and a half from the ocean, my entire life, sometimes I was living on an island even but other than that I don’t have any major complaints.
non mormon living in Sandy, UT. I've been here since 2005 from Austin, Tx. Yes, a culture shock for sure, but when I first moved here I absolutely LOVED Sundays. No one on the roads, etc. But nowadays? No. Sandy is pretty Mormon and my Target is PACKED on a Sunday. Grrr.. Sandy is always bustling.
I hope more nonmormons move to Salt Lake City! The things I notice are more the culture that affects what is available. Plastic Surgery, sugary drinks, mediocre food, especially the mediocre Utah chains, family-oriented offers, and entertainment, lack of diversity in entertainment compared to cities of similar size in the US. But I am glad to see it evolve each time I return.
Yes! This guy is a FRAUD! He shills this kind of thing purporting to be an expert. I don’t know if he is marketing for another local agency but he has this exact formula for multiple cities. It’s completely disingenuous.
Living in salt lake for 18 years and then moving down to Utah county for college, it is a stark contrast. Salt Lake City may be more diverse these days, but Utah county is still highly insular and homogenous when it comes to Mormons. Also being a never Mormon and being in Salt Lake might not be so bad, but when you were raised in the church and then leave, you want nothing more than to escape this place. I don't expect someone who wasn't raised in Utah or in the Mormon church to understand this perspective, but there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of Mormon culture and the church itself for people like me. Trying to paint a rosy picture of Utah just seems disingenuous or ignorant.
I've lived in Utah County for 60 years. I love it! But it's a good thing I'm an introvert, because you lose a lot of "friends" when you become an ex-Mormon 😂
I'm from Brazil, and i met a mormon from salt lake city and him knew it about a lot of things that don't have any relation with your church, we talked about it movies and metal songs and a lot of different things
I'm retired and moving to southern Utah next month from the SF area. I've lived here my whole life. I don't drink, smoke weed, or gamble. So no rubs there. I'm a pro life Catholic. I'm figuring that I'll have far more in common with LDS folks than most folks around these parts. Even now, I enjoy when religious members knock on my door. Why? Because they obviously believe in the benefits of organized religion, as do I. All (most?) of what makes Utah as livable and successful as it is, has everything to do with LDS, not in spite of it. I've seen LOTS of Utah videos and some presenters suggest that a declining LDS population is a good thing. Not me. And hopefully the frowning upon of vices, and Utah's conservative bent will discourage outright lunatic Californians from moving there. Gotta go, still packing to finish!
Catholicism is the second most common religion in Utah. You should be fine although you will be asked whether you are "a member" a lot as you get to know people.
Might visit over the summer. Would like to see for myself if it’s worth getting a condo or townhome there since I might consider transferring to the area’s pharmaceutical company from the one I’m working at right now.
Is it weird if none of these things sound like a bad thing to me? 😂 Just sounds like a nice society! There are PLENTY of places to live if you want to dabble in alcohol, drugs and lotto tickets 😂 I’m from the East Coast and I’m doing EVERYTHING I can to get to Utah ❤️
Not everyone drinks, do drugs or gamble. I don't see that as a negative too. I'm doing what I can right now to make it happen. I'm from AZ so I'm going to have to get used to the snow.
I'm fine with all of that part, too--I'm too poor to risk gambling, don't like alchohol, etc. The main problem is well...if you DO conform perfectly you'll be fine, but if you or a young relative is any form of LGBTQ+, atheist, etc. you're gonna have a rough time during puberty/high school. Not to be too dark but...Utah IS the teenage "self-OOF" capital of the country. For a reason. There were kids in my high school who were rumoured to have done that, and I have an online friend who definitely DID attempt it. Me, I am mostly left alone NOW, because I "look" Mormon, but growing up as a girl in Provo? HOO boy. Kinda wish we hadn't moved here until I was 21 instead of 11.
@@robinchesterfield42 there are plenty of places in the US that will support that way of life. California or the East Coast. There are always other options if Utah isn’t working out for you! Check out some job boards and start your life in a place that can give you what you want!
Oh, another thing I forgot to mention is--Utah is, surprisingly, becoming more and more of a bilingual state. Where I live, signs all OVER the place are almost always in both English and Spanish, and there are Mexican brands available in the grocery store. I find this kinda charming and interesting, myself. It's a chance to brush up on my high-school Spanish, and it's nice to be able to try foods from other countries without having to personally import them. :) (Want soda with real sugar, that also comes in cool fruit flavors? We got that!)
Girl you are so sheltered this should have been established long ago ? How about the natives of the land why is there not big buildings commemorating them in downtown salt lake ? Cuz the white man is just doing the same thing they do every where in Utah. You are brainwashed hit me up so you can learn if you want.
Spiritual/New Age beliefs would be second on the list to major religions in Utah. Lots of witches and lightworkers in Utah. Also you can get weed now with a card. Yay!!
The Egyptian images that are claimed to be Abraham while Egyptologist say they are actually not that and a common image from Egyptian funeral rites made me leave the church.
I would cut down a bit explaining about the LDS which I understand since I’m one and lived there a portion of my life but what the world needs to know is our outdoor year round recreation. Anything you can imagine doing in the summer is endless, winter is spectacular. So much to do there is no time for couch surfing. ❤
I have had a few extended visits in utah and you are not accurate. My friends daughter was harassed badly by teens in her school for not being Mormon. perhaps SLC is better than the rest of the state but I doubt it. Neighbors if my sister would ask me about my religion and feigned shock when I responded.
Moved here in 2011. Most mormoms just assume I'm mormon too, and I usually don't correct them. 😅 I agree with the open space effect when they do stuff. I was alsi surprised by how absolutely ham everyone takes to fireworks here.
According to a research study by Harvard University, Utah leads the nation in per capita subscriptions to internet porn. Maybe it’s that magic underwear!
The male youth. The state passed law requiring the porn sites have to require login that just ask you to click the button to confirm being over 18. In response pornhub just complete shut off IP access to the entire state. If you try and go to site, the notice of being shut down access to Utah is displayed. They must've read that report, that's crisis levels forsure. We've never had such access to pron before.
One cannot get porn in Utah outside of the internet. I lived in Texas for 7 years. I remember I happened to notice porn at a lot of the convenience stores.
@@jonathannielsen_utah You may be right. The Bible seems to say as much, where Paul the Apostle outlines his personal experience in Romans 7:7, "What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet." Cheers.
I think perhaps where you live you are not experiencing the "holier than thou" discrimination, but it is prevalent in St. George. The patriarchal attitude crosses all businesses and services and as a women I have been treated so poorly by the LDS men who own businesses. The LDS rules do not bother me at all. It's their arrogant prideful attitudes because they truly believe they are the chosen people of the one true church. I am a a person of faith and have a strong moral compass and believe people should be free to practice whatever faith (or non-faith they chose.). I am going to be selling my house soon and i cant wait to leave Utah.
I'm not Mormon, but I like Mormon's... I'm Non-Denominational Christian, and I've gotten along with them in Florida, New Hampshire & Idaho.... I NEVER argue my perspectives, but I like talking with them over coffee, and no, I do not follow typical traditions, so I will shop on Sundays, but I do like to try to not work on Sundays, so I can go to church..... According to this video, there seems to be more & more & more bad people (Dems & Libs) moving into Salt Lake City unfortunately... Sure, there are bad people (Dems & Libs) littered in all 50 states, and that's just the way it is, and someday, hopefully not, but maybe someday there will be way too many Dems & Libs to the point that the Republicans (The Good Americans) will be no more.... Hopefully, not in my lifetime.
LDS Utahn here, sorry this happened to you, Saint George definitely is the worst when it comes to discrimination, pls don’t take it as a representation for everyone in our church. We have recently been collaborating with the Catholic Church for the giving machines and our beliefs do not encourage this sort of behavior. Hope you didn’t take it to personally and don’t use that for a representation for our religion as a whole
@@ani4301 Thank you for your kind response. I have had lots of LDS friends my entire life in several other states and never experienced these discriminatory and prejudicial behaviors so I do not generalize this to the entire faith. I am not someone who judges others and certainly would not make generalizations to an entire group of people. But there is definitely something very different about the Utah LDS people. I find it very sad that these people use their faith in an insular way to treat others in unkind and unloving ways. No matter what faith a person ascribes to (or even if they don’t) we all should treat others respectfully and embrace the differences. We would all be better human beings. We all bring special and unique traits to the world.
Just a few clarifications. You pointed to the building at the beginning of the video and called it the LDS Convention center. It's actually the CONFERENCE building. The Church holds conference twice a year in April and October. Later you spoke of different groups of religious people referring to them as Mormon, Catholic or Christian. Actually Mormons and Catholics ARE Christians. I think you meant to say PROTESTANTS. In addition to these, of course, are other groups of people you failed to include: Jewish, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, etc and etc, ad infinitum.
The reason why Im watching this Im non mormon. And I wanna move there. I come from WA state(not DC). And all my family members say the same thing, its full of mormons, youll have a hard time getting a job because your non mormon, youll have a hard time getting a job because your non mormon. They make it seem that Utah is tribalistick. Even a freind of my grandmas has a house there, she tells me she is retiered but it'll be hard for me to get a job because Im non mormon. Granted Im going into the trades, plumbing/HVAC so therell be alot of small family owned companies.
Mormons are currently the minority in Utah due to persecution from the Federal government. In fact Utah could not become a State unless they gave up polygamy.aka "the principle". Governments always persecute what they deem as different or other. In fact I like the Mormon faith
I was born into the Mormon church. Sorry, the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Gee Joseph couldn't you have picked a shorter name? Lol. I quit identifying as Mormon or LDS when I was 18 but I never did any of the paperwork to have my name removed from the records. I don't consider myself a Mormon or a member of the church at all but I am probably still counted as such so the statistics could even be more flawed because I imagine they have to be quite a number of people like me. Never tried but I don't think it is super easy to get your name taken off the records. I think you are supposed to go in and have an interview with your local bishop and it's this whole big to do. I could be wrong.
1 thing that you do not mention… In the U.S.A. There is freedom of the religion of the religion that you choose.. Can you honestly say that is true in the State of Utah.. Utah gives the biggest tax breaks for the favored religious groups here.. Do you Agee or disagree..
I’m sure they don’t say much to other Christian’s because there’s mostly just all white people and there’s not much difference there’s a whole world of ideologies out there . A white man would never know what real oppression looks like. White people are too outspoken on the internet for no reason.
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Thanks for watching friends! If you liked this video on what it's like to live in Utah as a non-Mormon, you should check out our video on Salt Lake City Pros and Cons!
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I lived in Salt Lake City for 3 years. I am Catholic. There are many Catholic churches. Salt Lake City is like Vatican City for Mormons. Everyone at work was Mormon. People are nice. General Conference is covered on the news. My friends are, Mormons, Catholics, Pentecostal, and atheist. Salt Lake City is not judgy, it has a California attitude. People mind their own business. Salt Lake City is a Western state, meaning rent and homes for sale are expensive compared to Texas. Everyone enjoys outdoor activities. The Parks and Mountains are amazing. Utah is beautiful. I cried when I left during the Pandemic. I will always love Utah.
I don't think so? SLC has the most diverse religions, probably more than any other UT cities/regions. Most other UT cities have a higher percentage of mormons.
What dont u think so? Sounds like u both said the same thing. . @@AngelloDelNorte
Is it a racist state since its whites
Appreciate your video. I’m an active member of the church. I feel like your comments were really accurate. I think it’s nice if people realize that their neighbor might ask if they are a member. They might invite them to church or some sort of neighborhood activity. Speaking for myself, I’m not out to convert you. I just want to get to know you and welcome you. As long as you’re a good neighbor, I don’t care. BTW. I don’t know many people who consider caffeine a vice anymore. Medical weed is available and I’m told it’s not that hard to get. At least that’s what I’ve been told 😉
Hi Chris, I appreciate your comment.
I believe your right to be religious is the exact same right I have to be non-religious, so from a political perspective, I defend your right to practice your religion safely and freely and that you aren't attacked or disrespected by bigots for being a member of your church.
However, 85% of my interactions with religious people have been overwhelmingly negative since many people of various religions cry-bully their way into legislating my freedoms away, all while cosplaying as people that pretend to love freedom.
Just know, I would not be disturbed or angry if you attempted to convert me once, I think people should be left alone after the first try, regardless of the direction of conversion (atheists should leave theists alone after the first try). However, the overwhelming majority of conversion efforts come from Theists.
Having that said, I enjoy this 15% pocket where you and I can be mutually respectful. I'm very nice and supportive of religious people that give me back the same respect.
Have a nice day dude! The weed shops in SLC would be cool, but I'm drug free haha, well, with the exception of caffeine (which I'm trying to quit lol)
Yes, Medical Weed is available, at least I read that somewhere. Incidentally, I overheard that medical weed actually makes Fast & Testimony meetings fun! Peace & Love
I've been living in Utah for 15 yrs as non Mormon, I can do whatever I want. There's more places that open on Sunday now. More events too now
i live in utah? more places that open sunday? stop lying XD
@@tenidaska9984I also live in Utah, and I would say that more places are staying open on Sunday, but one should still check Sunday hours.
Almost every place has reduced Sunday hours though.
Great video and thank you for the respectful tone. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and have now lived about half of my life in Northern California and the other half here in Salt Lake County (east bench 😄). Will always kind of consider the Bay Area home but we have loved being in Utah. I can tell you that most members of the LDS Church desire to really try and be great neighbors regardless of your religious affiliation. If someone is interested in talking religion we are always open to that but very very few members would ever push that on someone who wasn’t interested. People here are genuinely concerned about their neighbors, they will help out if you ever need anything but really people can live however they want and do just fine. I for one welcome you if your considering making Utah your home!
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I hope Utah will continue to grow and evolve in a good way. It's exciting to see it changing.
Thanks for all the information! I am going to visit salt lake city at the end of August. Looking forward to it.
We are so glad you liked it!
How was it?
Relocating single to Utah, the dating scene is not very favorable if you are non Mormon. Liquor laws are built in the way that basically makes it very inconvenient. Low choices of alcohol at the liquer stores, not enouth of nice places to get a drink. Liquor stores belong to the state so don't expect great selections, there are only a few stores as well, so long lines and ran down atmosphere at those stores are common. You can not buy wine at a groceries stores only at the state Liquor stores.
It's becoming super overcrowded everywhere including lakes, parks, canyons, restorants etc.
Bad air quality in the winter plus constant droughts. Some things...
No big deal. Virginia, where I live, has state liquor stores. So does South Carolina, where they're called "red dot" stores, because there's a big red dot on the front of the building. I lived in Montgomery County, Maryland, which operates the liquor stores. The rest of the state, it's private. Me, I gave up drinking over 40 years ago.
@@TomHoffman-uw7pf people honestly don't understand that Utah isn't the only state with state liquor stores.
Do u still live there?
There is 41 liquor stores in Utah. I wouldn’t call that a few. The selection and the prices are quite good. I’m not sure what liquor laws you’re talking about that make it inconvenient ? There used to be a few wacky laws like the Zion curtain and not being able to get 5 percent beer at gas stations, those are no longer a thing. I think the restaurants and bars are quite good especially in the down town area. I would love to hear more of your opinion. I have a different one than you but that’s okay.
The dating is fine if you are not Mormon. It’s not like everyone in Utah is Mormon. I would suggest to avoid hating on Mormons which some are the nicest and most generous people that I have ever met. You clearly have never lived in a crappy city if you think salt lake is bad
As a native of SLC, Utah, I can remember experiencing a difficult time in getting hired for a position due to being a non mormon or not belonging to a ward back in the day of 90's. I have since moved to the state of TN due to this fact. I found my home state very biased and discrimative. Utah is a beautiful state, but for a religion that states they believe in Jesus Christ definitely lacked the commandment of Love your neighbors did not exist. I seen a lot of suffering of families that never received help from the cingrtional care minister or their benevolence team. Thank you for providing this update on my home state.
I grew up in Salt Lake City and lived there for 39 years, but relocated to Arizona in 1999. Salt Lake City - and Utah in general, is a beautiful place to live. But I have found I prefer not having to deal with snow, so I'll probably never move back. I do visit ever couple of years, and things have really changed in the past 20 years! It would be nice if the LDS Church kept its nose out of the lives on non-members, but the liquor laws, and lack of gambling (even lottery tickets) is ridiculous. To some people, that's probably just fine, but I like having the opportunity to make adult decisions for myself. As a non-LDS kid growing up in Utah, I was excluded from a lot of things because I didn't go to the neighborhood ward (church), like some kids parents wouldn't let them play with me. I saw some of the same things happening to my own kids years later, which helped my decision to relocate.
Thank you for sharing this
I can handle the alcohol restrictions but lottery?? I'm done.
This dude has such good vibes. I feel like Salt Lake City is a little bit of southern charm and friendliness in the West.
My friend from Atlanta said Utah is Tx little sister.
I want to commend you for putting on such an amazing video!
I'm from Hawaii, visited Ogden in 2023, and drank at 2 bars.We met 2 nice women there and played pool with them. They were so happy to meet someone from Hawaii. Nice people there for sure. I didn't even think about the Mormon laws. This is interesting information. We drove to Idaho, and my son lives there. Both beautiful states. ❤
First impressions--there's something so oddly charming about seeing YOUR place shown all DRAMATIC with like COOL MONTAGE and BADASS MUSIC while it shows _familiar_ store chains that YOU have shopped at/driven past for decades...when it's not a famous part of the country that already gets mentioned in mainstream media all the time. :) Awww.
Secondly--you're exactly right about how Utah Valley is WAY WAY WAY more Mormon. I think it might be _slightly_ less than when I first moved here, but it's still.....a lot. Provo is more the stereotype of what non-Utahns think Salt Lake City is, and growing up here, as a girl whom everybody expected to get married and start poppin' out babies as soon as possible just because of how I was born was...hoo boy. I knew a whole lot of people who had never even considered the EXISTENCE of other points of view/religions/etc, and some for whom they'd never been outside of Utah, to the point where the rest of the map was...a void. Just a big white void.
It can get VERY VERY VERY culty here in Utah Valley--I know they don't like that word, but it's true--I"ve had cases where I've been going home on a school bus, a SECULAR, state, schoolbus--and someone sang a bit of a Mormon hymn and literally EVERYBODY ON THE ENTIRE BUS EXCEPT ME started singing along perfectly. I felt like I was in a Twilight Zone episode. It was like being the one person in a scene in a Disney musical who doesn't know the song everybody is suddenly breaking into. ("Why does EVERYBODY know this song?!")
Now don't get me wrong, Provo/Orem is kind of a charming town of just the right size--big enough to have SOME city-esque elements, small enough to where you can freely walk down the street at whatever pace you want and breathe the fresh air, and I can see a mountain sunset/sunrise like out of literal oldschool paintings by just standing on my front porch, EVERY DAY (unless it's super cloudy). Some other pluses (in my opinion, anyway) include things like the Frontrunner train (it's a double-decker! And they allow you to eat on it! Some seats have outlets next to them!), the library, which is still active and has a lot of fun free activities, and the local restaurant chain, Village Inn, which is kinda like Dennys but the food is WAY better.
But, the times I've been to Salt Lake itself, I have been impressed. For all of its reputation as the Mormon Capital (which is POLITICALLY true, if not culturally), it seems every time I go there it's to look at a cool international festival or an awesome science thing. The Natural History Museum of Utah is FREAKING. HUGE and covers literally _every_ part of the Earth, from down into the core and how plate tectonics work, up into the literal clouds, with all kinds of human cultural stuff and yes, dinosaurs! along the way. There's also an awesome rocks and crystals part, including some crystals taller than me. (Admittedly, I am pretty short. :P)
For me, as a Provoan, Salt Lake City is where I go to feel a LESS religiousy atmosphere, and enjoy some more _mix_ of attitudes and culture.
(I realise that from what I said earlier, that kinda sounds like "Wow, it is SO much nicer here in the prison yard than it is in my cell!" but seriously, SLC is actually kinda cool.)
I’ve lived here my whole life and you’re right there’s not that much traffic on Sundays etc. but if you keep bringing people here it won’t be that way no more what are you thinking about
Lmao
lived in Layton for 4 years in early 2000s. We loved it and wonder sometimes why we moved back to the east coast. Aside from a few odd balls, people were very friendly and happy. Winter could be harsh.
There would be oddballs anywhere you live, though, right?
@jennytaylor3203 yep and thats the point in a way.
I enjoyed this. We have nothing like this in the UK. Thank you for putting this together.
My wife got starred at a few times at restaurants by older Mormon men when she was drinking a beer. Also, working in an office with a majority of Mormons is really challenging. They don't talk about much. They mostly care about their church and their family and church events. They don't cuss, and they are always "fake nice" not to ever offend anyone and everything is "always great" attitude, which is not the case in a real world. The fact that their kids are being shielded from the real world (can't watch a lot of movies or TV shows, can't listen to certain music etc...) makes the Mormon kids seem kinda weird and unrelatable to kids that grew up in a different state. We know that there are several neighbors that do not talk to us because we are not Mormon! We know that there are kids that don't talk or are not allowed to talk to our kids because we are not Mormon! That's the kind of stuff you will experience here in Utah. Makes us think what kind of future our kids can have here? Most colleges are Mormon, how about relationships and dating? Mormon kids can date and marry only to another Mormon! We moved from GA 2 years ago and the culture here is really the main issue. To a non-Mormon who never experienced it it's a huge and real shock to the system. It is slowly changing because of so many people moving here but it will take a very long time in my opinion for the culture here to be somewhat normal. Or you can just move to less Mormon places like Park City or Ogden but that will get you more crime (Ogden) or super expensive living (Park City). But the mountains and outdoor activities here are what's keeping us here! The best skying, the best camping, hiking, national parks everywhere....just gorgeous
Wow super interesting. I always hated when certain ppl have that fake nice everything is always perfect and amazing type of attitude when you know it’s not the way life goes. Everyone goes thru things and has struggles or bad days, not every hour of every day is perfect and happy. It’s not realistic. Also the fact you said they don’t really talk about much is crazy but I understand. You wanting to BS about life or wanting to joke around with someone at work can’t really happen because they aren’t like that? That’s wild sounds boring lol.
So basically you can’t just bs about normal everyday life or girls or partying with someone at work huh? Like talking to a brick wall? No personality? Sounds like they don’t ever have anything interesting to talk about that would hold your attention in a convo.
Not sure where you worked but I'm LDS and many of my work associates are "non Mormon" and we talk about all kinds of things other than our church and have a great time. Do we have differences, sure but you make it sound like we're ALL a bunch of fuddy duddy's. Out of hundreds of people you have been around in Utah restaurants, a couple of old dudes starring bothered you? I assure you most of us don't care that you are having alcoholic drinks. maybe they thought your wife was hot? I think only the most extreme members would tell their kids not to associate with non members. We have never suggested such to our kids. I'm sorry you had that experience. Most people like the sense of family and community that the people of Utah hold in high regard. It may be a little much for other people. However, perfect we definitely are not! I enjoyed this guys perspective and hope your experience improves 🙂
I'm a non-mormon and I have 1 friend that I do things with...after living in SLC for 13 years!! I have lived in 6 states and I've never had this experience in any other state. Seattle did take some time to get a tribe together and Tucson was the friendliest and took no time at all. I used to have a great attitude about living here because it is so beautiful and to me the traffic is not a problem and it feels super safe. However it is lonely not having a tribe which makes me very sad.
Thank you for being inclusive to those of us who are relocating from a different planet. People from earth never think of us but you were inclusive with your language and i really appreciate it ❤
Spring and fall in SLC are the best. Its getting over populated tho. Use to be a great little ski and artsy town/city. Had a mellow pleasant vibe until 2010. Beautiful mountain ranges.
We must learn to just laugh at mormon ism. Its so absurd that we must treat it as the joke that it is. There is no need to worry about those folks. Utah is great.... Utah is more stylish than Colorado and cheaper... !
The joke that it is?
Oppression is no joke
I grew up in Idaho but lived in Utah for 11 years before moving to the east coast. My former business partner grew up in NYC but came to Utah for college and is still there now in retirement. He is not Mormon (I am) but lives living there because the grocery stores are not crowded on Sunday and other venues have similar circumstances and he loves the environment - clean city, close to the mountains and ski resorts etc.
Utah is one of the most beautiful states in the US for scenery! I live in Australia and would love to reside in Utah, but to get permanent residency in the US is very challenging!
Thanks for your perspective. As a Latter-day Saint who grew up in Utah, it’s interesting to hear. I felt it was fair. I can imagine Utah would present some challenges if you are not a member, but hopefully people recognize the good. Living outside of Utah as a member has its challenges as well. Still not used to the much higher crime rates and being such a minority. But it’s good overall. Utah is what you make of it. If you want to see the bad, you will see it. If you want to see the good, you will see that too.
very informative. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video. Was that trail you started on near the "H Rock"? I grew up in Utah as a non-Mormon. Overall, I'd say Salt Lake/Utah is one of the best areas of the country. I've also lived on the east coast, Texas, and other parts of the South. The biggest consideration for non-Mormons is probably your career field. Some sectors aren't very impacted by religion, while other sectors are. My father once inquired about a job with the state government. He was asked if he had a "Temple Recommend," which is an obvious way to determine whether or not a person is LDS. You have to consider that in some fields/sectors your hiring/promotion opportunities will be impacted by religion. On the other hand, I've also heard that the tech sector hires a lot of people from out of state, and that religion is not much of an issue. I had a Muslim friend from Sri Lanka who worked in Salt Lake as an engineer, he had a great career and never had any problems.
Dude I cant thank you enough for just saying we are like most other religions that means a lot.
As an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints it saddens me that our friends wouldn’t notice much of a difference.
I would hope anyone would want to move to Utah because their LDS neighbors were so friendly, so kind, and so serviceable… that would be what I would hope people would notice as a difference. 😊
Nothing is open on Sunday. Restronts close early. Some not open Sunday. Not very many have cocktails.
I am mid 40’s, divorced and a Christian, and considering SLC after my oldest leaves for college. I love skiing and the outdoors so obviously this is a huge draw for me. My only concern is being able to find someone to settle down with. If it’s like trying to find a needle in a haystack, then I’ll probably look at Denver.
I grew up in Utah, but no longer live there. Although I am ex-Mormon now I still have fond memories of living there and may end up back there some day. Salt Lake county, as you mentioned, is generally a nice place to live for a non-Mormon. However, I wouldn't unequivocally say the same about Utah county. I went to school and worked there for a few years and I definitely overheard my fair share of anti-lgbtq remarks, usually from people that didn't know I was ex-Mormon at time. They may not say anything to your face, and it may be gradually changing, but the older generation is still not very welcoming to more liberal views and lifestyles. You may be fine if you just keep to yourself, but if you prefer to be vocal and express yourself, Utah county, and some other more rural areas, may not be as nice a place to live.
So, um. Are you guys gonna do any Rose Park, West Valley, West Jordan, and Midvale videos? Or do you only focus on the middle class or higher areas?
It’s a beautiful place to live. The mountains are beautiful and close. Doesn’t matter if you’re Mormon or not. It’s a great place to live. In general Mormons are pretty good neighbors.
I know this video is a year old but I’m thinking of moving to SLC as a non Mormon lol..I’m from the northeast originally but having been living and working in Lake Havasu City last 5 years..I’m thinking about flying out mid October 2024 for a cpl days and if it’s cool I’m down for a change..being from the northeast I don’t judge anyone and I’m a young 51 year old gym outdoorsy cat..restaurant business 36 years ..I’m a magnet for awesome people ..appreciate u brother..I’ll reach out when I decide what dates I’m coming in October
If you are living downtown, is it possible to live comfortably without a car? I'm trying to decide if it's worth keeping my car. I will be relocating there in a couple of months.
While that does depend on your shopping and working needs/conditions, I would say that all you need is a bike! They have bike lanes in a lot of downtown areas.
Good video! I’d say the facts of logistics are covered well. Although I see a lack of perspective on the implications of being a poc and or queer non Mormon living in Utah. Possibly because of lack of experience, although that doesn’t mean it not a different reality for those people. Regardless, the narratives that the church has on those groups of people, Aswell as the different laws that the church has backed to oppress queer individuals and women have a direct effect on how those people are treated by their community and the law. (Trans and abortive laws)
another notable mention is the porn law: you have to provide picture ID to assess it online
Ssounds like people in the comments love the cleaner safer education ect. cities but hate what makes it happen?
Anyone is welcome to reply to my comment. Prior to losing my to covid on 12/18/21, we were planning on relocating to Utah. I'm 38, single now and I can careless about drinking at all and I don't do drugs either. If the dating scene sucks, then so be it, especially since im latino. I don't cause trouble and I keep to myself pretty much. I've done a little bit research and Utah seems to have a low crime rate, which is a plus. It'll be a new experience indeed. Not that it matters but I'm coming from Arizona, which is a red state as well.
This was super helpful! We are considering moving to SLC in a couple of years with our school-aged kids. One of my biggest worries is that my kids will feel excluded because they aren’t Mormon.
Nope totally won’t. Most kids will hang out with any one.
Yes they will be excluded. The kids may want to play but the parents will inevitably stop it.
You can get into a place for 3.5 to 5% however if you’re looking to avoid PMI you need that 20%. It just depends on each person situation and they should get prequalified first. My brother lives near Fort Hill Air Force Base and there’s not really an issue being a non-Mormon but you will be talked to about it for surerr asked about it. I’m actually contemplating on moving in the next six months to a year myself.
Catholic is part of the Christian religion you didn’t have to separate the two.
Roman Catholic is not PART of Christianity. For 1495 years it was, and still is, THE Christian church. There are many groups who have adopted those portions of the religion they like and emphasize. The only other Church that can lay that claim is the Byzantine Catholic Church centered in Istanbul, Turkey. The Roman Church fell victim to the temptation of the corruption that follows from power. Most, but not all, corruption (eg. opposition to women’s ‘ health care) has been rooted out of the doctrine, but some corruption in administration ( eg. the Church bank) is still rampant. But, for all its faults it is still the standard of Christianity.
BTW, I was baptized a Presbyterian, confirmed a Methodist, converted a Baptist, reconverted an Episcopalian, and adopted a Roman Catholic when I got married.
I just moved to Sugar House, which is on the east side of Salt Lake three years ago during the pandemic. It was nothing like I expected. I expected there to be Mormons everywhere and missionaries at my door every hour.
Yes, there are more more men here than any other state, but other than when you see a church or temple, it’s not like it’s down your throat or anything. I’ve met good people here that were Mormon, non-Mormon, Catholic, Pentecostal, and atheist. Honestly if I had to pick who was the good people and who were the bad people wouldn’t go by any religion because I’ve met great people from all types of religions here, and I’ve met assholes from every religion here. I don’t think it has anything to do with the religion, or lack there of, but rather the person.
I’ll tell you one thing though I really do love Utah and I love living in sugarhouse. It’s a beautiful state. People get a little brave behind the wheel and think they’re Billy bad ass until you follow them home after they flipped you off when they ran a stop, sign and nearly killed you, and then they won’t get out of their car and they call the police but other than that I mean there’s worse things I mean it could be Chicago where people just kill people for the sake of killing people.
Overall, I really do like living here but I do miss the ocean. I’ve never lived further than an hour and a half from the ocean, my entire life, sometimes I was living on an island even but other than that I don’t have any major complaints.
non mormon living in Sandy, UT. I've been here since 2005 from Austin, Tx. Yes, a culture shock for sure, but when I first moved here I absolutely LOVED Sundays. No one on the roads, etc. But nowadays? No. Sandy is pretty Mormon and my Target is PACKED on a Sunday. Grrr.. Sandy is always bustling.
I hope more nonmormons move to Salt Lake City! The things I notice are more the culture that affects what is available. Plastic Surgery, sugary drinks, mediocre food, especially the mediocre Utah chains, family-oriented offers, and entertainment, lack of diversity in entertainment compared to cities of similar size in the US. But I am glad to see it evolve each time I return.
Fanstastic..i lived there 23 years ago....my fav place inthe world
Skip to the 4:40 mark to skip the rambling and long-ass intro.
I welcome the mormons. I sill preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and teach them how to srudy Gods Word. Gods power will break the cult mindset.
Don't you live in Minnesota? I could have sworn I watched some of your videos before moving to Minnesota!
Yes! This guy is a FRAUD! He shills this kind of thing purporting to be an expert. I don’t know if he is marketing for another local agency but he has this exact formula for multiple cities. It’s completely disingenuous.
Love your glasses man!
You can get "cannabis cards" in Utah for about $200. So that ain't bad if that's your thing.
How is the air quality?
Living in salt lake for 18 years and then moving down to Utah county for college, it is a stark contrast. Salt Lake City may be more diverse these days, but Utah county is still highly insular and homogenous when it comes to Mormons. Also being a never Mormon and being in Salt Lake might not be so bad, but when you were raised in the church and then leave, you want nothing more than to escape this place. I don't expect someone who wasn't raised in Utah or in the Mormon church to understand this perspective, but there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of Mormon culture and the church itself for people like me. Trying to paint a rosy picture of Utah just seems disingenuous or ignorant.
I've lived in Utah County for 60 years. I love it! But it's a good thing I'm an introvert, because you lose a lot of "friends" when you become an ex-Mormon 😂
Marijuana is definitely legal for Medicinal. Wendover is legal for recreational and is a 90 min drive.
I'm from Brazil, and i met a mormon from salt lake city and him knew it about a lot of things that don't have any relation with your church, we talked about it movies and metal songs and a lot of different things
Great video!!
Oh how its changed since this video. Half my circle have their cannibus card and im hearing ads on the radio about gummies lol
Utah reminds me so much of my city Vancouver. I feel like I could live there.
I'm retired and moving to southern Utah next month from the SF area. I've lived here my whole life. I don't drink, smoke weed, or gamble. So no rubs there. I'm a pro life Catholic. I'm figuring that I'll have far more in common with LDS folks than most folks around these parts. Even now, I enjoy when religious members knock on my door. Why? Because they obviously believe in the benefits of organized religion, as do I. All (most?) of what makes Utah as livable and successful as it is, has everything to do with LDS, not in spite of it. I've seen LOTS of Utah videos and some presenters suggest that a declining LDS population is a good thing. Not me. And hopefully the frowning upon of vices, and Utah's conservative bent will discourage outright lunatic Californians from moving there. Gotta go, still packing to finish!
Catholicism is the second most common religion in Utah. You should be fine although you will be asked whether you are "a member" a lot as you get to know people.
Might visit over the summer. Would like to see for myself if it’s worth getting a condo or townhome there since I might consider transferring to the area’s pharmaceutical company from the one I’m working at right now.
Stay at Sun Arber Terrace Apartments!
Is it weird if none of these things sound like a bad thing to me? 😂 Just sounds like a nice society! There are PLENTY of places to live if you want to dabble in alcohol, drugs and lotto tickets 😂 I’m from the East Coast and I’m doing EVERYTHING I can to get to Utah ❤️
Not everyone drinks, do drugs or gamble. I don't see that as a negative too. I'm doing what I can right now to make it happen. I'm from AZ so I'm going to have to get used to the snow.
I'm fine with all of that part, too--I'm too poor to risk gambling, don't like alchohol, etc. The main problem is well...if you DO conform perfectly you'll be fine, but if you or a young relative is any form of LGBTQ+, atheist, etc. you're gonna have a rough time during puberty/high school. Not to be too dark but...Utah IS the teenage "self-OOF" capital of the country.
For a reason. There were kids in my high school who were rumoured to have done that, and I have an online friend who definitely DID attempt it.
Me, I am mostly left alone NOW, because I "look" Mormon, but growing up as a girl in Provo? HOO boy. Kinda wish we hadn't moved here until I was 21 instead of 11.
@@robinchesterfield42 there are plenty of places in the US that will support that way of life. California or the East Coast. There are always other options if Utah isn’t working out for you! Check out some job boards and start your life in a place that can give you what you want!
Oh, another thing I forgot to mention is--Utah is, surprisingly, becoming more and more of a bilingual state. Where I live, signs all OVER the place are almost always in both English and Spanish, and there are Mexican brands available in the grocery store. I find this kinda charming and interesting, myself. It's a chance to brush up on my high-school Spanish, and it's nice to be able to try foods from other countries without having to personally import them. :) (Want soda with real sugar, that also comes in cool fruit flavors? We got that!)
Girl you are so sheltered this should have been established long ago ? How about the natives of the land why is there not big buildings commemorating them in downtown salt lake ? Cuz the white man is just doing the same thing they do every where in Utah. You are brainwashed hit me up so you can learn if you want.
I think the state has to figure out something for the air quality problem. Thats one of my really big concerns about living here.
There’s stores just inside the Idaho border that sells lotto also Evanston wy. Is much closer
Spiritual/New Age beliefs would be second on the list to major religions in Utah. Lots of witches and lightworkers in Utah. Also you can get weed now with a card. Yay!!
When was this video filmed?
Become a mormon bro. we are the best!
The Egyptian images that are claimed to be Abraham while Egyptologist say they are actually not that and a common image from Egyptian funeral rites made me leave the church.
Go Jazz!
I would cut down a bit explaining about the LDS which I understand since I’m one and lived there a portion of my life but what the world needs to know is our outdoor year round recreation. Anything you can imagine doing in the summer is endless, winter is spectacular. So much to do there is no time for couch surfing. ❤
I have had a few extended visits in utah and you are not accurate. My friends daughter was harassed badly by teens in her school for not being Mormon. perhaps SLC is better than the rest of the state but I doubt it. Neighbors if my sister would ask me about my religion and feigned shock when I responded.
You're really cool greetings from Ireland
Moved here in 2011. Most mormoms just assume I'm mormon too, and I usually don't correct them. 😅
I agree with the open space effect when they do stuff. I was alsi surprised by how absolutely ham everyone takes to fireworks here.
They’re only legal a few weeks if the year, so we take advantage of it, even if it means literally everyone is sleep deprived for a few weeks
@@ani4301 oh I don't fault anyone for it, but nowhere else I've lived os like that, usually cause the states don't allow it **at all**
Try being non-Mormon and work in sales. Better have a good base salary and not be on commission.
"Statistically speaking." 🙂
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According to a research study by Harvard University, Utah leads the nation in per capita subscriptions to internet porn. Maybe it’s that magic underwear!
The male youth. The state passed law requiring the porn sites have to require login that just ask you to click the button to confirm being over 18. In response pornhub just complete shut off IP access to the entire state. If you try and go to site, the notice of being shut down access to Utah is displayed. They must've read that report, that's crisis levels forsure. We've never had such access to pron before.
One cannot get porn in Utah outside of the internet. I lived in Texas for 7 years. I remember I happened to notice porn at a lot of the convenience stores.
@@richardholmes5676 adult toy stores have videos you can buy.
@@jonathannielsen_utah You may be right. The Bible seems to say as much, where Paul the Apostle outlines his personal experience in Romans 7:7, "What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet." Cheers.
They run child prostitution rings!
Great video
If you are a Mormon trying to get out of the church, slc is pure hell except it gets better closer to the city. Other than that Mormons are very nice
Again ... a person who separates "Christian" and "Catholic". What the hell? Do you think Catholics are not Christian? Do some research.
I think perhaps where you live you are not experiencing the "holier than thou" discrimination, but it is prevalent in St. George. The patriarchal attitude crosses all businesses and services and as a women I have been treated so poorly by the LDS men who own businesses. The LDS rules do not bother me at all. It's their arrogant prideful attitudes because they truly believe they are the chosen people of the one true church. I am a a person of faith and have a strong moral compass and believe people should be free to practice whatever faith (or non-faith they chose.). I am going to be selling my house soon and i cant wait to leave Utah.
I'm not Mormon, but I like Mormon's... I'm Non-Denominational Christian, and I've gotten along with them in Florida, New Hampshire & Idaho.... I NEVER argue my perspectives, but I like talking with them over coffee, and no, I do not follow typical traditions, so I will shop on Sundays, but I do like to try to not work on Sundays, so I can go to church..... According to this video, there seems to be more & more & more bad people (Dems & Libs) moving into Salt Lake City unfortunately... Sure, there are bad people (Dems & Libs) littered in all 50 states, and that's just the way it is, and someday, hopefully not, but maybe someday there will be way too many Dems & Libs to the point that the Republicans (The Good Americans) will be no more.... Hopefully, not in my lifetime.
Was there for a week fora business trip. Wanted to leave by day two lol. No idea how people live there. Mountains are nice I guess.
Not being part of LDS just means you won't be involved with their church. They're still nice people, and many people are not LDS.
I live in St. George as a non-Mormon and it is absolutely miserable. I can't wait to leave. Have never been so discriminated against EVER!
LDS Utahn here, sorry this happened to you, Saint George definitely is the worst when it comes to discrimination, pls don’t take it as a representation for everyone in our church. We have recently been collaborating with the Catholic Church for the giving machines and our beliefs do not encourage this sort of behavior. Hope you didn’t take it to personally and don’t use that for a representation for our religion as a whole
@@ani4301 Thank you for your kind response. I have had lots of LDS friends my entire life in several other states and never experienced these discriminatory and prejudicial behaviors so I do not generalize this to the entire faith. I am not someone who judges others and certainly would not make generalizations to an entire group of people. But there is definitely something very different about the Utah LDS people. I find it very sad that these people use their faith in an insular way to treat others in unkind and unloving ways. No matter what faith a person ascribes to (or even if they don’t) we all should treat others respectfully and embrace the differences. We would all be better human beings. We all bring special and unique traits to the world.
I would not want to live in a desert. The climate is brutal! We only fly in it to snowboard and ski.
I spent 50 yrs in Utah. If you're moving here, don't forget to check the sex offenders registry.
Just a few clarifications. You pointed to the building at the beginning of the video and called it the LDS Convention center. It's actually the CONFERENCE building. The Church holds conference twice a year in April and October.
Later you spoke of different groups of religious people referring to them as Mormon, Catholic or Christian. Actually Mormons and Catholics ARE Christians. I think you meant to say PROTESTANTS.
In addition to these, of course, are other groups of people you failed to include: Jewish, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, etc and etc, ad infinitum.
Thank you for the information..Basically they own Utah.
Skip to 4:40. You're welcome. ❤
The reason why Im watching this Im non mormon. And I wanna move there. I come from WA state(not DC). And all my family members say the same thing, its full of mormons, youll have a hard time getting a job because your non mormon, youll have a hard time getting a job because your non mormon. They make it seem that Utah is tribalistick. Even a freind of my grandmas has a house there, she tells me she is retiered but it'll be hard for me to get a job because Im non mormon. Granted Im going into the trades, plumbing/HVAC so therell be alot of small family owned companies.
I have family there im from Chicago
I lived in SLC and never saw any Mormons… just friendly Mexicans building the city up
Mormons are currently the minority in Utah due to persecution from the Federal government. In fact Utah could not become a State unless they gave up polygamy.aka "the principle". Governments always persecute what they deem as different or other. In fact I like the Mormon faith
I live in American Fork and weed is legal here in Utah 😊
I was born into the Mormon church. Sorry, the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Gee Joseph couldn't you have picked a shorter name? Lol. I quit identifying as Mormon or LDS when I was 18 but I never did any of the paperwork to have my name removed from the records. I don't consider myself a Mormon or a member of the church at all but I am probably still counted as such so the statistics could even be more flawed because I imagine they have to be quite a number of people like me. Never tried but I don't think it is super easy to get your name taken off the records. I think you are supposed to go in and have an interview with your local bishop and it's this whole big to do. I could be wrong.
Go Jazz 🏀💜
1 thing that you do not mention… In the U.S.A. There is freedom of the religion of the religion that you choose.. Can you honestly say that is true in the State of Utah.. Utah gives the biggest tax breaks for the favored religious groups here.. Do you Agee or disagree..
I’m sure they don’t say much to other Christian’s because there’s mostly just all white people and there’s not much difference there’s a whole world of ideologies out there . A white man would never know what real oppression looks like. White people are too outspoken on the internet for no reason.
Looooooooooooooooooooong intro.
I believe most Mormons live outside of Salt Lake City.