Taking The 285 Ton Anode The Last Mile -- Claypool To Miami, Arizona -- August 16th, 2011
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- Here we see the 285 ton anode running it's last mile of a trip that started in Salt Lake City, UT. In the first scene we see the Precision Heavy Haul team making the turn from Arizona Highway 188 onto the US 60 in Claypool, AZ. I thought this turn was going to be a troublesome one for them, but you could tell this wasn't their first rodeo! Arizona DPS officers blocked off the intersection and within 5 minutes the anode was through and traffic was flowing again. Scene two shows the load entering the Freeport McMoRan mine complex in Miami, AZ. An interesting thing to note, is as the load is climbing the very steep grade at the mine, the driver of the lead truck lifts the rear most and unpowered axle on his rig for more traction on his drive axles. The entire set up was reported to be 225 feet long, with the anode itself weighing 285 tons. This was shot on 8-16-11. TO SEE A COUPLE OF MUCH SLICKER VIDEOS SHOWING THE ENTIRE MOVE OF THIS ANODE, WATCH---Precision Heavy Haul "Riding With The Giants Parts 1 And 2"
As a former trucker myself, I have to say that these guys have my full respect!! That took a great deal of patience and know-how... Great job!!
StormCat42 From what I've seen of PHH on their website and the other videos here on TH-cam, they are the guys to call when something big or awkward needs moving anywhere. True well respected pros.
@crapityshaith Thanks for watching. I'm glad you liked it. I was lucky enough to be on vacation when this all happened and I passed the load near Wickenberg on Aug. 11th on my own trip to Salt Lake City. Good thing they took the weekends off, because that gave me enough time to run up to SLC and back home in time to catch it on the 16th.
Yes, I did ! Totally cool. I grew up in a town that made similar trailers. (TALBERT). It is just amazing watching them be built, as it is to see these goliaths in action :)
I'm glad it was my video. Thanks for watching.
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Just FYI, he's not lifting that axle to improve traction on his drives, he's doing it to improve his turning radius, otherwise when he turns really sharp it will try to drag that last axle sideways some, but since there is weight on it, it has the effect of pushing the front axle straight, forcing a wider turn radius since the bogey (or non driven axle) is not steerable. Yes, lifting the axle does increase the weight on the drives, but that doesn't mean it'll increase his available traction, he's got all the traction he's gonna get already on the drives, irregardless of whether the bogey is down or not.
You can see the very same thing happen everyday with cement mixer trucks and tri-axle dump trucks when they make their turns, after they make the turn they put the axle back down to spread the load back out over the all the axles. This is common on 4 (or more) axle trucks with only one steerable axle. Trucks that have multi-steer axles have no need to lift any of their axles to improve the turn radius.
I know your comment was probably more joke than serious, but the Europeans would say yes and throw that thing on a Goldhofer trailer/unit! Those things can have crazy nuts amount of tires. Though they work, and work well, and can carry serious tonnage, I'm glad these guys used this setup instead. To me this was a more interesting unit than a Goldhofer.
My dad worked for an Arizona Copper company, and in high school, we got to tour the plant site. In the old days, copper concentrate would be dumped into a several thousand degree furnace (heated by natural gas), and it would melt. Air would be introduced to help move the sulphur and oxygen out the top, back in the days when they were major polluters. With the invention of the flash furnace, the process was much simpler. Pt. 1
I own a Chevy S-10 pickup that I do BELIEVE would pull that load!!🧐🤔😆🤣😂But seriously though, that's one HECK OF A "LOAD" and AWESOME driving/spotting by the ENTIRE team.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾👍🏾💪🏾❤
The end of a months-long planning process. To move that load, every yard of the route needs to be planned. From road/bridge/overpass weight limits, overhead clearances, location/depth of gas pipelines and even the height of local power lines. Time of day, traffic flows, turn radius', road grades and more. Hats off to PHH company for a successful move.
The rear push-truck was driven the entire way. The tillerman streering on the rear of the trailer was up there only for the tightest turns on the route. To see other great videos showing more angles and in-cab shots, check out Riding With The Giants Parts 1 & 2.
I would love to see "Hot Wheels" or "Matchbox" come out with a version of this! Really cool.
mamot commissioned one, its about 7 feet long, comes with 3 tractors, super detailed, and I think its about 1300. usd.
eric wsmith Awww. That puts it right out of my price range!
Mini chrome shop.com he can build you one
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it.
its for something in the smelter section of the mine. now this, ill probably be wrong on, but i wanna say they use it for melting the material and extracting copper out of it. dump material in one side, and it comes out the other side.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
No, the driver in the push truck is in total control of his own truck. I suspect the load is heavy enough that one truck by itself can't accelerate the whole weight of the trailer and load faster than the other driver can compensate for. Communication, coordination, experience, alertness, and trucks that are matched well and the weight of the load just kind of makes everything work together smoothly.
Yes, the center sections come out, get stacked then the wing dollies are disassembled then stacked also. The push truck can pull half of it back with the counter weight set on the deck of the single section of the trailer.
The 285 ton figure came from the news story on AZCentral discussing the load and it's route and schedule, but also from the guys that moved the load. Prescion Heavy Haul and Inland Kenworth have videos posted on TH-cam where the guys that actually moved this load are commenting on many different aspects of the move, including the weight. They are nice videos.
It’s Miami/Globe Arizona.Used to be mega copper mines here.Freeport-McMoran is doing remediation in this area.They might be trying to get the last bit of copper out.
The trucks used for these heavy haul applications are speced out different than over the road trucks. The are ordered with larger engines, more gears in the transmission and sometimes in the rear differentials as well, and larger radiators and cooling system components to keep them from overheating. Even with these mods they still sometimes overheat.
Yes, you sure were, and you caught me in your video! Thanks for posting it and for watching mine. I left a comment on your video too.
search Rotran heavy loads in South Africa, they often run loads over 600 ton, on a Road train almost 80 meter long- 5 haulers in front, and 2 in the rear for additional braking
Thanks for the added info. All the information I got on this and the move came from an article on the internet, and it never explained the load in detail.
impressive push pull video. Yet people still say we don't do this in the USA. Aussie's do a lot. But we do just as much.
The trailer is built that way to spread the weight of the load out to protect both the trailer tires and the road surface.
@theSurvivAllExpert No, they didn't sweep the intersections before it came through. Traffic was flowing normally through the intersection until about 5 minutes before the load came through.
The ticket reviewer probably said WTF!? when looking at that one!
Aaaaa..... I needed that one last pluming part for my swimming pool.
As always Ken you guys are a class act....
Apparently, since speed wasn't an issue, it would have been much more dramatic if they had used about 1200 men/saves and 10 or so elephants. You know big heavy sisal ropes and roller logs etc. .... would have been great!
I like how at 4:50 the truck drives by towing a camper and a jet ski.
He thought HE had a big trailer load.
Lol. It is a Ford. It probably is a big load for it. 🤣😂
In the Reverb, large amounts of raw natural gas were injected into the matte. This would burn off any remaining sulphur and oxygen. After cooking long enough, the matte is now pure enough to pour into anodes. But first it is transferred via ladel to a holding vessel at the anode wheel. I think what you were watching being moved was a holding vessel. When put in place, it can rotate to the up position to receive the copper... Pt. 3
What was easier for them was that the return trip was maybe only 80 miles or so--just back to Phoenix. Thanks for watching.
Now that is ruggedly classy!
My uncle did it on his back! Mind you he was living in a shoe box in the fast lane of the M1 at the time. Sometimes others do not know what hard work is!
Take care.
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Back when GM had their metal stamping plant here, some presses they would have brought in, they had a specialized trailer that was so long took 3 drivers to drive it, 1 driver per length of trailer to bring on some of their stamping press'es. Had a pan shot picture of it once, it was 24inch by 6 inch pan shot.
Thanks for the information and safe trucking
its not a anode its a anode barrel it is used in the smelting process which turns copper concentrate into copper anodes which weigh about 850 pounds each. i was on the crew tasked with the unload of the barrel we used a 240 ton crane and a 175 ton crane making a tandem lift and set it on a mat of 1-1/2 inch steel plate to keep it from settling into the ground
I work for the crane company that unloaded it and the crane I was oiling on (175 ton) had 93,000 pounds, and I think the other one (240 ton) had about 115,000 pounds if I remember right. The whole load, both tractors, trailer, and anode weighed in at about 400,000 I think
I see what you mean, but I think it's just an illusion. Notice the rear tires of the lead truck in that same spot, it looks like they're not touching the ground either, and we know that can't be the case.
The videos are called Riding With The Giants Parts 1 and 2.
That's pretty interesting. Thanks for all the information.
Yes, it was referred to as an anode, but I don't know how it works in the copper mining arena. I'm familiar with the terms anode and cathode, but not how they work.
I didn't see the return trip of this unit, so I can't say for sure, but it looks like the load deck is expandable for varying loads. As set up for this load it had 3 segments joined by huge pins, which means that the trailer could've been shortened for the return trip. I can't tell by looking at the video, but maybe the deck width is adjustable too. The trailers wheel sets could be narrowed and were constantly adjusted during the trip. If any of this was done to get it home, I don't know.
It is NOT an Anode. It appears to be a heavy wall section of a tower with heavy external stiffening rings, or a horizontal dryer that would roll on bearings on the 2 'Riding Rings"It does not appear to weigh as much as stated. It has openings and is not a 'heavy wall' vessel. Most likely a tower section.
espeescotty,
Thanks for the upload. This is a wicked video.
Thank you.
That is an impressively massive lorry.
+No Thankyou In Scandinavia the word 'truck' means 'forklift'. Now you know.
@vinzorelli I don't know. All of the information that was put out about this piece was more just specs for it's weight and such. Not sure how it's used.
I noticed the bogey's are powered too! Did you notice that in the audio?
Another commenter said that it is an anode barrel. I don't know how it is used in the copper mining industry however.
Yeah I know. I was just saying that is it resembles one very closely. If it was one it would take a burner the size of a small house to work on it and it would take material forever and a day to go from one end to the other.
Wow first video on TH-cam I've seen of my hometown.
A "Flash" vessel would be preheated (by natural gas) and fed Copper Concentrate and pure oxygen. Oxygen would oxidize the concentrate, giving off Copper (with impurities) and abundant amounts of sulphur dioxide. The copper would fall to the bottom and pool. Slag would be tapped off the top, the copper tapped at the bottom. Huge ladles would transfer the "matte" to a reverb furnace. Pt.2
@espeescotty That's pretty crazy. But thanks for uploading the video! It was cool seeing that gigantic thing being moved through a route I've driven hundreds of times.
Even more tires can be found under a Scheuerle SPMT. I don't know if these units could have been used for long-haul, though.
Ha! I'd love to see the pictures from the redlight cameras! They would only get the middle of the truck!
There has to be added to the Anode weight, the weight of the rolling chassis as well. I have not noticed it before, though I am prone to watching the screen with my eyes closed sometimes, the first car through testing the height of the intersection lights with the rod on its front bumper.
And then be rolled so that the copper will pour out of the center spout, down a trough to the anode wheel. What you don't see, is the brick lining it will get when in place.
The anode mould is made out of pure copper, and sprayed with a material like graphite to keep it from sticking. Since the mould is water cooled, it keeps it from melting when the hot copper goes in. When the mould is shot, it's re-melted in the furnace and a new mould made. The End.
Enjoyed watching what it takes to transport a monster piece of equipment to it's final destination safely and professionally. But i'm curious as to how the transport rig is disasembled for the return trip. Or is it? Thanks for a great vid.
A trailer train this big doesn't get disassemble d! The pusher truck could be taken off, if the ride home was on the level.
.Very impressive on moving this large load a few question some to mind:
1. When did the driver of the pusher know to apply power?
2. The man on the unit did he steer the front and back of the unit?
3. What was the tonnage per set of tires on the road?
4. What was the total years of driving time between the two drivers?
Forgot to mention: The heat given off during the chemical "flash" would then sustain the process, as long as oxygen and concentrate were introduced, which saved natural gas.
Hey he didnt use his turn signals.
hahahahahahaha you´re right where a cop when you need one...
U didnt see the cop to the left
76 wheels/tires on the trailer setup, 24 for the trucks for a total of an even 100 wheel/tires for the whole unit. As for the anode, I'm still not clear on how it works. Others have commented with their explanations on either this vid or the others I've posted on this move.
1. The drivers communicate by radio, but even without that one truck isn't powerful enough to move the load alone on a grade. At least not at any decent speed. So the neither truck can go too fast on its own, even if the driver wanted to. On these 6 and 7% grades it was maybe 2nd or 3rd gear and pedal to the floor and that's all the speed you could muster. 2. The front of the trailer was just towed through the turns like any trailer, but the rear was steered through tight curves only.
Thanks!
@crapityshaith The whole trip from SLC to the mine took probably 2 weeks. There are a few other videos on TH-cam that show the other portions of the trip including the loading of it in SLC. InlandKenworth has a couple of nice ones on his channel. I don't know dollar figures for the movement, but I would guess it to be in the six figure range!
@crapityshaith August 9, Crossed Hoover Dam Bridge and headed south on US-93 to Kingman. Aug. 10, East on I-40 to US-93 South to near Wickenberg. Aug. 11, South of Wickenberg on US-60 to SR-74 to near Jct. with I-17. Aug. 12, SR-74/I-17 to Scottsdale Rd. to Dynamite Blvd., to Rio Verde Dr., to McDowell Mt. Rd., to Saguaro Blvd., to Shea Blvd. in Fountain Hills. Aug. 15, North on SR-87 to AZ-188 stopping in Tonto Basin. Aug. 16, Tonto Basin to the mine.
if you guys search for "kraftdragarna" you will see a transport here in sweden with way more axles... 600 tons in totalweight...
Looks more like a piece of a ball mill than an anode. Nice photo work!
All chrome wheels. Nice touch!
All right guys...Order's cancelled...Bring it back!!!
who would need fall protection? where the steering operator was standing, it is considered to be a "working platform" and also is maintaining 3 points of contact at all times. we use precision heavy haul a lot, and i know they are more than adequate with their safety. the spend a lot of time at mines.
I might be wrong, but it looks like the steering tires aren't touching at the 8:40 mark.
I had never thought about that, but I suppose that could be the case.
I want the job of steering on the back.... but not when it's raining....
I love these oversize haulers...
@04:50 - that passing driver was thinking: "Holy crap and I thought I was driving a long ass rig!" ;)
So what machine is this anode or anode barrel exactly being used in? I know what anodes/cathodes are (electrically), I just haven't ever seen them that huge.
4;50 Amaizing pickup!!
8:40 front wheels of lead truck are slightly off the ground.
ok friend has no problem thank you
a bit of reminiscing on h/s and college chemistry, but I know you need electrolysis to separate copper from its rough form. an anode/cathode setup in the lab resulted in copper, [bluish color] forming on one side. I suppose this is a huge version of what we learned in laboratory to mass produce copper in sufficient quantities. whatever it is, this video is exciting though the trucks are dead slow.
I'm amazed at how much the equipment to move stuff like this costs, and how often they have to use it to make it worthwhile.
I wish I were able to catch this kind of equipment on the move more often.
Listen to that clutch fan kick on at 1:47
and the ABB transformer they transport is about 350 tons in weight
Q #1 Did they sweep any of the sections in order to avoid a flat?
Q #2 Who did they send the picture ticket for running the red light to 3:59?
Wow! That is some driving skill for you!
I suppose the driver of the rear tractor can just let go of the wheel since it looks like the pushbar has 3 attachment points?
That was very interesting
I counted. That entire move has 100 tires on the ground. Wow.
This thing is massive... What is it used for?
A sacrificial anode is a device used in ships and bridge pillars where they stand in salt water. It is used to reduce/control corrosion of the ship's hull or steel in the concrete of said pillars. mixing metals creates electrolysis and it is the anodes that corrode, not the structure it is attached to. Quite how it is used in mines, I don't know and anyway, that looks like steel to me. Anodes are usually made of a material other than what the structure is made of. I have fitted lithium anodes, shaped like salami sausages to bridge pillars on Highway 1 in NSW. It is the salt in seawater that is the problem, acting as a catalyst. Do mines even have salt? Again I don't know. Anyone care to add?
It is used in cyanide extraction gold mining techniques, basically the gold is collected on the anode by dumping material into a huge vat of cyanide solution using electrolysis.
Google ? :-) .In electro-chemistry an anode is an electrode which is given a positive voltage.Though I don't know how a 285 ton anode is used in a mine.If you get something do let me know too.
You're right, it looks like the barrel of a kiln.
seeing this makes me wanna watch some of that discovery series where they move buildings.
at that time copper was at $4.00 a pound. They made more than enough to cover that cost just in the length of the video! haha
No, the mine is not a nuclear waste dump. I don't know where flyingtiger1 gets his info, but it's wrong.
Does anybody know what the purpose of this huge metal tube load is for?
Is the power/throttle provided by the rear truck somehow controlled by the lead truck?
please respond... Anode to what? (like opposite of a cathode?)
Trust the americans to turn a simple thing into a drama. My cousin, Paddy Maginty from Dublin used to deliver these with two wheelbarrows and a scaffold plank.
Crazy that you need skill to drive that slow and steady