Thank you for this information about the Medes, the ancestors of the Kurds. In Sulaymaniyah, in the Kurdistan Region, there is a Qazqaban cave, in which there is the tomb of the last king of the Medes.
@@saliksayyar9793 Ofcourse, the most ancient ancestors of mankind came from Africa, and the same is true for Kurds. But the Medes are the ancestors of Kurds, not the MOST DISTANT ancestors. For example; Your most distant ancestors came from africa, but that does not necesarily mean that your father or grandfather were africans. Hope that answered your question.
Medes and Ancient Persians left no dna traces of themselves. But there other ways to prove it. For Instances the closest modern Iranic language to Median Is Hawrami. Which is the oldest form of Kurdish language.
Med language is classified as Western Iranian Languages just like Kurdish, it is the ancestor of Kurdish, 15. In a sacred text written in 7 languages in the century, the Med language is also included. H.W. Some scientists such as Bailey, Henning, Shanidze and David Neil MacKenzie examined the text and said that the text is the same as the Kurdish.
@@iranianwarrior Laki (Kurdish: له‌کی, romanized: Lekî, Persian: لکی) is a vernacular that consists of two dialects; Pish-e Kuh Laki and Posht-e Kuh Laki. Laki is considered a Kurdish dialect,by most linguists and is spoken chiefly in the area between Khorramabad and Kermanshah by about one million native speakers.
The Medes appear to be a native tribe or a confederation of tribes which are based in modern day Western Iran. The Medes are strongly connected to the tribes of Zagros and mountain ranges of West and Northern Iran as a matter of fact. They are also known as Mada, Madu, Madai, Mah. King Diakku (Deioces) the first king of the Medes was from the tribe of Mannea which was a tribe/region linked with the Urartians and Mittani. Mannea is now known as Mokrian in Kurdish. We also use the name Diakku in naming our boys. In classical Aramaic and Armenian sources the Kurds are referred to as Mah. The Assyrian oppression literally helped shape the modern Kurdish identity as the Medes unified all the smaller tribes and kingdoms under one banner to defeat the Assyrians. To simply even suggest we are not descended from the Medes is ridiculous, based on geography alone you can tell. However modern day Kurdish borders have definitely been pushed back nowadays, especially by Turkic invasion.
Tbf even as a kurd who has done a lot of research, any western iranic people can lay the same claim to the medes being one of their ancestors. A persian person can lay the same claim too the medes, and a kurdish person can also lay the same claim too ancient persians. The kurds are a heterogeneous people, which means their origins are not just median/iranic, but other ancient people make up their genetic mixture too. Of course genetics can vary from person too person, but a kurd is usually a mix of ancient mesopotamian people (especially if your kurd from iraq), ancient anatolian people, ancient iranic people (persians, medes etc) etc.
دمتگرم بخاطرتحلیل جالب ودقیقت وواقعا ما هممون ازنسل مادها هستیم چون قبل ازهخامنش دیاکوبنیانگذارپادشاهی درایران وحتی اولین شاهی دردنیابوده طبق اسنادی که هستن وجمعیت مادها درفلات ایران خیلی بیشتربوده وبنظرم طبق سندالان همینکه تقریباجمعیت الان مادیاکوردها۸۰ملیون نفره تقریبا پس قومیتی بزرگ بایدبوده باشن دراونزمان هم
You do an excellent job of presenting ancient history in layman's language. Your choice of ancient texts to cite is very dramatic and punchy. I'm fascinated by ancient middle-eastern history and your lectures/podcasts really make it come alive. Thank you, Cy!
Honestly, everything you said in your comment is exactly what I've been aiming for with this channel. Thank you, your words are really encouraging and let me know that I'm doing something right with my presentation of these things. More to come my friend, thanks so much for the support, I really appreciate it! Stay safe!
E. Sloane and Vladimir minorsky described the Kurds as "the son of medes". Much respect and thanks for this great video I'm hewrami - Kurd from hewraman.
Wadie Jwaideh, a professor of history at the University of California, said: "The Med Empire, one of the prominent ancestors of the Kurdish people, is the first national state established by the Kurds.
I'm certain that we Kurds are actually the descendents of the Medes. We even say it in our national anthem. "We are the descendents of Medea and Kay Khusraw(Cyaxares)." Kurdish people know what I mean.
Yeah that's very interesting and I didn't know that. I just looked up and read the translation. I'll make a note of that in my next video about the Persian Empire but in it I also talk about the Medes. Thanks, appreciate it.
@@HistorywithCy Don't fall for the propaganda. This is literally what they're taught in schools in Iraqi Kurdistan. However, theres no modern evidence which states that the Medes were Kurds; if anythings, theres plenty of modern evidence which refutes it. If you're interested, I'd be more than happy to send you some sources. Anyways, you and I both know that a national anthem isn't evidence for ethnogenisis or linguistics.
@@kurdishmountainlion2516 because I’m an accredited historian and I’m troubled by the perpetuation of Pseudo-history. Nobody outside of the Kurdish community believes in the Mede/Kurd theory because it’s not reliable or factual.
Hey, my pleasure! I'm so glad that so many of you are into this stuff...it inspires me to put out more. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!
At one point all Kurds spoke in the Med dialect. 1/3rd of the Parthian empire consisted of the Kurdish Pehlewani tribe, and today the Pehlewani language is directly connected to the ancient Mede dialect of the Zaza-Gorani branch of the Kurdish language. Kurds have shown that they deserve their own nation.
@@imnotgonnamakeanyvid Imagine being a homogenous people, thus have had your nations name taken away atleast 2-3 different times, have had your land pillaged and burned for millennials, your culture repressed, your native tongue forbidden. When would enough be enough for you? Kurds are reclaiming their heritage, by all means.
@@LeixWUxLong I'm looking at this from an Iranian perspective, I understand that kurds face discrimination in Turkey and Iraq but I never understood their beef with Iranians, especially since they are Iranian themselves! Iran ( in theory at least) is meant to be for all Iranians so It makes me sad to see some kurds want to tear it apart with such passion. The situation is not good right now, everybody is under pressure but tearing of and becoming a land locked country that's surrounded by enemies is not going to free the kurdish people, best case scenario you become a puppet state for some western super power that only cares about you as long as it can use you, worst case scenario you become the new afganistan!
Med language Median language, or Median, was a Western Iranian language spoken by Medes. It belonged to the Northwest Iran subfamily, which includes many languages such as Kurdish (Sorani, Kurmanji), Zazaki-Gorani, luri Laki Gilan and Beluch.
@kristina zboodram Actually the people mentioned in this comment have similar looks to the Ancient Medes (The Mada) as well. Their language sounds a lot similar, While the Luri language sounds a bit like the Ancient Persian as well.
Something to mention here, is that the Kurdi language sounds a lot like the Ancient Mesopotamian languages as well. And from what I know, some scholars actually say that the Kurdish people might have Mesopotamian roots as well as Iranian.
Medes language is closer to hurri and sumerians than persian language which is indo European, we are nor descendants of indo European, our language, costume, religion was different from them
This is Zazaki vs Kurmanci: (I don’t see) “ez nevênenu” vs “ez nabinim” Zazaki is one of the closest languages to Kurdish among the North-western Iranic languages. (Zaza language - Wikipedia) In conclusion: I really don’t care that much if the Kurds were the Kings and Queens of the Median Empire that is why I very seldomly write anything about it but when I see others try to so hard to claim that the Kurds weren’t even related to Medes without even looking at the their own maps or the linguistic and cultural evidence I can’t help but wonder what motives could they actually have. Well, when looking at the specific upvotes that they get, that curiosity is satisfied since it is full of people (Turkish, Arabic, Iranian nationalists) who would love to erase any Kurdish history from that region.
In the Middle Ages, some historians called the Kurds Med, and interpreted their wars with the Kurds as Med occupation. Median language is included in the class of Western Iranian Languages just like Kurdish. Median is also included in a sacred text written in 7 languages in the 15th century. H.W. Some scholars such as Bailey, Henning, Shanidze and David Neil MacKenzie analyzed the text and found that the text was in Kurdish.
The language doesn't represent the origins of a nation or a race. According to your logic, the Kurds in Turkey are originally Turkic because they speak Turkish..
@@yguc9342 One thing is sure with or without facts and evidence, u all in middle east were arameans/assyrians a long way back and today the same and in 2000 years from now... the same.. Only changes is the culture, language and religion . Father forgive them for what they don't understand, god bless.
@@Flamma7777 we are here for more than 12000 years and and the mid east is a huge region and the bridge between Asia, Africa and Europe that hosted hundreds of different ethnic groups for thousands of years. We are not only Arameans and Assyrians. They played a small role in our history.
@@yguc9342 unfortunately you are completely wrong, the first population was the Sumerians around 6500 years ago, then I am talking about history, facts and evidence. I'm telling you basically you are all the same but have different cultures and traditions, the problem started with to Arabic that's when Islamization started in the late 8th century when they chose to erase the original language Aramaic and its history through imams who then brainwashed the misguided people and divided the community. The problem with this whole mix of peoples and different languages etc started with muhammad who was thrown out of the church in damascus because he did not agree with the church, he let his wife's uncle who was a priest (waraka ibn nawfal) to write his book because he could neither read or write, the priest wrote the "Quren" =write in aramaic.. and was efferently murdered, then muhammad was hunted by everyone because he chose to defy the holy bible and put the messages and words from his own perspective, this also happened because he had a big ego and felt bigger than others... had his story not existed, you would supposedly be called Arameans or Assyrians today but from different countries, and wars would be against the Jews and not against each other, think how wonderful it would be if everyone was united in the Middle East like for example Europe.... then after many invasions with muhammad's successors the mother tongue was no longer needed so they chose arabic as the mother tongue after all the dominance in the warpath. as well as translated the Quren into the Quran from the mother tongue into Arabic. They did everything they could to erase the language and history after Islam became dominant. People went to war misled by imams and did not know that they were at war against themselves.
The story of Cyrus the Great being raised by a shepherd is such a worldwide trope! It occurs in the Bible & 1001 Nights and shows up Ancient Greek legends especially Oedipus. It even pops up in CS Lewis’ story The Horse and his boy, except the father is a fisherman rather than a shepherd!
Actually according to many prominent schalors of religion, the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism also had a strong impact on the development of Judaism and through it on Christianity and Islam as wel, which is also interesting.
@@soniahemmati2372 very difficult to say which influenced the other precisely and when due to the obscurity of the origins of both judaism and zoroastrianism
@@tvrulz46 Yes I know it is difficult. But still, most scholars well trained in both traditions, conclude that Zoroastrianism most likely was the source, since the level of antiquity and originality of these ideas In Zoroastrianism seem to be much more clear and they also predate the earliest Jewish sources by the centuries. But it's not really even that important which one was the most likely source. As an Iranian, even if it was Zoroastrianism, it doesn't make me proud at all that it ever had anything to do with the development of the ludicrous Abrahamic religions, all of which are very misogynistic, justify or even promote slavery and they have an insane, enraged God that tortures people constantly. I agree that Christianity is more peaceful, but still they consider the old Testament, which is full of racist, hateful, genocidal commands by an insane God, as part of one of their holy book and it has been used by Christians to justify various crimes including genocide and slavery. Islam is also an Arabized and universalized version of Judaism. Mohammad obviously believed the stories of the old Testament to be true and was very much inspired by them and considered himself a Moses of sorts, with all his destructions, plunders and attacks on the non-believers. The main difference is that at least, in the old Testament, those commands to murder, plunder and the enslave non-Jews is limited to the so-called promised land, but Mohammad copied and expanded this theory to the whole world and that's basically how Islam began.
@@soniahemmati2372 fair enough. As someone who has no vested interest in any of these religions I want to provide an alternative perspective of the vengeful Old Testament god. It may not be that he was insane but rather playing a necessary evil to guide a still nascent human collective consciousness through a master plan which we can not comprehend. Killing a certain tribe may have been necessary to facilitate humanity but that does not mean god did not have ,erect on those victims of genocide. They may have been taken to some other special place of gods choosing befitting and recompensing their fate which is apart from paradise or hell.
In the work that examines the history of the baluch written in the middle ages called kurdgalnamek, it is written that the Kurds and the Baluchs are the descendants of the Medes.
@@dancemonkey118 no you are wrong. Read history! In the beginning there was 2 different people. The Medes and the Persian. The Medes in West and the Persian in the south. Deioces we say in Kurdish Diyako was the first King of the Medes. He is the grandfather of the Kurdish Mukri tribe in today's Erea where Diyako create the Median Empire. Kurdish dna and Kurdish language are Medes origin. The Medes have nothing to do with Persian.
My pleasure, glad you liked it. I have some more lesser-known civs coming up...some of them I didn't even know about until relatively recently. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
The first historical document showing the bond between the Medes and the Kurds is in the Kar-nâme, mentioning Erdeşîr I Papakan (242 BC) as the Kurdish king of Med.
Love providing it! There's a lot of it coming in the next few months. As always, thanks so much for all of the support, I really appreciate it...I know it sounds like a broken record but stay safe!
The plot thickens !! At 24:00 there is a story about killing baby Cyrus, whose name is still unknown, Compare this to the prophecy of Isaiah, calling Cyrus by name 200 years before his birth, saying that he is the one chosen by God to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple. Now compare it to Herod the great hearing about a prophesied king, then going on a killing spree to prevent it from happening.
Yes Kurds are a directly descent of the Medes. Cyaxares organized and led the the Medes (one of the earliest records of organized Kurds) and led them with an iron fist throughout Iran. However, Cyaxares's son that would be later known as King Astyages gave his daughter to the Persian empire, hence the era of Medo-Persian empire. Sadly that was the end of the Kurds "say" in the game of politics, as the Persian empire would try to erase the name of the Medes. Thank goodness gracious for the Hellas for documenting the truth.
Kevin E Azaris are ethnically and racially Iranic peoples. Only their language was displaced from a Western Iranian language called Adhari to a Turkic language in the 13th century.
@@kevine5703 Azeris are genetically close to the Medes than the Kurds will ever be. the Kurds are just as related to the Medes as the Persians are and all other Iranians; the Medes were simply Iranians
Perfect as always. Thanks. Anyway, I am still waiting for the rest of Elamite empire. You cut the series on Elamite at the most exciting part! Wish you luck
Haha yes I remember your request about continuing the Elam series. I think I might just redo it because it's been about a year since I last made a video on them. Maybe I'll do a podcast like this on all of Elam, including the Neo-Elamite part that I missed. Thanks for your enthusiasm for Elam, I'll see what I can do. Stay safe!
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! There will definitely be a lot more on the history of ancient Iran coming up in the next few months...stay tuned and stay safe!
Important thing to note is that an Assyrian king is the representative of Ashur and is considered the 'high priest' of Ashur in the nation. Interesting tale about King Sargon II, in 705 BC, Sargon II returned to the rebellious province of Tabal and did not know about the alliance it created with the Cimmerians, so Sargon II charged at the Tabal/Cimmerians and was killed during battle, the thing is though, his body was taken by the Cimmerian alliance, and Sargon II never had a proper burial, and in Ashurism (Assyrian religion), if the Assyrian king did not have a proper burial, his spirit would be cursed to haunt the lands forever.
Yup, that's correct. I think that's also why Sennacherib seems to have gone out of his way to distance himself from his father. He probably thought that Sargon II's excessive worship of Marduk meant that he was abandoning Ashur, which was perhaps why Sennacherib felt that when Babylon revolted, he was justified and would even be protected by Ashur should he need to resort to subduing the city with great violence. Assyrian history is so fascinating and really in my opinion is so much better than any work of fiction. Anyway, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. There's are more Assyrian history videos on this channel if you're interested. Thanks again and stay safe!
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds. Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. I am a Medes from Persia/Iran. Kurds are not Medes.
Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city. Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian. All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.
Thanks for talking about Kurds , since we lost our country and got divided among 5 countries , unfortunately no one recognises us ❤️☀️💚 but good news about the independence of Kurdistan can be heard , long live my friends 🫂
@@salamyaya162Medes and Ancient Persians left no dna traces of themselves. But there other ways to prove it. For Instances the closest modern Iranic language to Median Is Hawrami. Which is the oldest form of Kurdish language.
Russian historian and linguist Vladimir Minorski states that the Medes, who lived in lands where the Kurds now form the majority, are the ancestors of the modern Kurds.
at 20:00 It was said that the Assyrian king who was fighting against the Babylonians and Medes was killed during the Battle of Nineveh and the new king, Ashur-Uballit II, was offered vassalage if he surrendered. So Assyria could've actually lived on but Ashur-Uballit II chose to fight to last man at Harran and Carchemish. I actually wrote an alt-history on if Ashur-Uballit II chose vassalage instead of fighting to the end. I wrote how Assyria would eventually reassert independence just like how they did with the Mitanni.
That's actually really cool... I never thought what would have happened if Ashur-uballit II had become a vassal of Babylonia or Media. Would he have stayed in Harran or made one of his conditions being that he needed to go back to Ashur? I'm curious as to what happened in your story (you don't have to give away the ending if you don't want, but sounds really interesting). I often thought about doing some sort of alternate history vid, something like "What if the Persians hadn't lost at Salamis" or "What if the Sasanians had one the battle of Qadisiyah" or scenarios like that. Maybe I'll do it in the future after I cover what really happened there and then what could or may have been had the outcome been different. As always, great to hear from you...stay safe!
mittanii is other empires name change of iran mix medes hittites in anatolia kurdish is iranics origins the arabics nations is come later in 700 this era against roman empires , to not forget scityians was enemy of roman empires in anatolia serbia dacia steppe of russia , scityians dominated the romans empires in getae name scithes and massagets scito sarmatics medes kurdish and partians iranians branch hordes of scityians familiy
Thanks, glad you enjoyed this... the audio and recording my voice have in the past been my greatest challenges with making videos, so glad it was OK for this program, especially since there is no music. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it and more on the way!
Haha thanks, I didn't know that people still did that. I've seen a couple of older videos on health and related issues have a computer voice which is just weird. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!
The first Kurdish Identity was created in 612 BC the Kurds were a mix of people and cultures who united into one Identity known as Kurds, these people were a mix of Medes-Hittites-Mitanni-Hurrians-Gutians-Luwian-Hourites-Kasites-Sumerian-Phrygians-Mannaeans The medes were not Kurdish but they were ancestors to them.
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds. Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. I am a Medes from Persia/Iran. Kurds are not Medes. Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city. Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian. All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran I keep seeing Kurds claiming the history of the Median empire as well as the Faravahar symbol. Is there literally any evidence that's real to suggest they are even related?
I read that when historian first read the description of Nineveh in the bible, they dismissed that such a large city could have existed at that time, until it was found by archeologists.
@@dominiqueblagojevic9447 And it's true of a multitude of historical events, I was watching a video "Evidence for the Bible (with Brian Edwards)" showing a few such examples. There is also very solid physical and historical evidence all over the place for the flood of Noah, "Mega-Sequences' Evidence for the Global Flood" and "90 minutes of evidence for the global flood" with Dr. Kurt Wise.
@@jb0433628 The evidence is that there was a massive flood that hit the Near East. Not the whole world mind but when the tales were written they would've believed it was.
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Iran is not land of persians, most of persians empire is kurdish, persians didnt exist, we kurds was in Iran way before persians, persians came from western india, go be educated, medes were anicent kurds, todays DNA medes are closest to kurds both with language and culture, stop claiming our history like yall took western Iran which is kurdistan, go be educated kid
@@Mandarah-o8m No, the Medes never called themselves Kurd. Kurdish clothing is not similar to the Medes clothing. And the capital and main cities of the Medes are Persian cities, etc.
Excellent work CY! Some things that come to mind: on deioces: i think the inscription of sargon 2 mentions a daiukku....this individual is described as a mannean provincial governor ruling a district bordering Assyria. His son was held hostage by urartians. The name sounds a lot like deioces. And the dates of his office also match (around 710-705 bc?) What do you think? Second point: i am surprised the last assyrian kings are not mentioned in your disscussion on cyaxares. 2 brothers, sons of ahur banipal, where kings, plus their was an assyrian general who sided with nabopollassar. One of the brothers, sinsharishkun (627-612) was very likely the same notorious gay king sardanapallus mention by many classical authors later on. He was the guy who everybody ganged up on and ultimately besieged him at Nineveh. (The bullies where cyaxares and nabopolassar) What do you think?
Hi Juan, thanks so much for stopping by and your comments, I really appreciate them! On Daiukku, yes, he was possibly a Mannaean vassal king or governor as you pointed out, but just based on the name alone it's difficult to confirm whether he is the same person that the story of Deioces is based on. It is possible since Herodotus claims that he ruled for 53 years and so maybe there was some overlap but again, it could have simply been coincidence that the names sound familiar. With regard to the last Assyrian kings, I guess I had already talked briefly about them in the program on Assyria (Ashur etil-ilani, the eunuch Sin-shum-lishir, Sin-sharra-ishkun who was presumably killed in the sack of Nineveh and the last, Ashur-uballit II, who fought on until shortly after the fall of Harran), so I suppose I left them out here. I generally don't focus too much on the classical authors when it comes to Assyrian history because generally what they've written was hearsay compiled long after the events they describe took place and also now, we have a lot of Assyrian and Babylonian records and texts that are much more reliable. However, with regard to the Medes, since we don't have too many texts that talk about specifics or the lives of their early kings, we kind of have to use Herodotus because he's really all we've got. Anyway, hope this answers your questions and if not, don't hesitate to ask more. Thanks again for stopping by, I'm so glad when you all take interest in this stuff... stay safe!
The mythical story that Herodotus mentioned in his book is a Median story that was made for Cyrus II. The purpose of the creator of the story was to explain the reason for Cyrus's kindness and his soft nature. However, Herodotus got some part of the story wrong and thought that " Spaco" which in Median language, means "Dog" was the name of shepherd's wife but was the name of shepherd's dog. The story wants to tell that Cyrus suckled a dog nipple and drank milk out of it, when he was an infant. Dog was a cherished and well treated animal in Medes society as human's best friend. Median were Horse breeder and the dog was a useful animal for herding horses. Dogs were also useful to give a warning to them of Assyrians and Scythians attacks before they reach to their cities and villages. There is one account that says: When Hephaestion died in Ecbatana, Alexander destroyed the temple of Anahita in Ecbatana out of rage. There was a statute of a dog beside the statute of Anahita. m
@@HistorywithCy Awesome! Nobody really covers this period like you do. I like the Roman Republic and Empire, but this is fascinating. These empires were as ancient, or more so, to the Roman's as the Roman's are to us and I find that so wild. I'd love to se you cover China or the Rus, but whatever comes I will be there happy to soak it in. Thanks!
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 his ancient turkhis and iranians and kurdish mixtures in iran and central asia tarim basin siberya inner mongolia xiongu kazak sionistics scityians mixtures turkhis siberyans iranians origins becouse they spooke sanskrit farsy, after formed turuk turanians in inner mongolia turkmenistan uyghur uzbeki is turkhis iranians mixtures just ask turkmenistan brother of turkey oghus tribe dunya words in turkey means world is sanskrit farsy words
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 and azery and kazak is turkhis iranians only georgia armenia is pures iranics and volga bolgars was,iranics ,mixtures russian kievan viking formed russia , , they was scito sarmatyans iranians volga bolgars, and central asia tarim basin ,scityians saka
The fall of Assyria was not just brought down by the Medes and Babylonians, but by many elements. Shamash-ShumuKin, AshurBanipal’s older brother, whom was so jealous, conspired against him, because he felt he should have inherited the empire and not his younger brother, whom realistically was more apt from all aspects. This weakened the empire, treachery within. The fact is that it took a coalition of Babylonians, Medes, Elamites, Scythians and Persians to bring down Assyria, and yet even that alone was not the whole story of the fall. A scientific article published a few years ago says the fall of the Assyrian Empire began 200 years prior with devastating climate change in the region, and this emboldened all of Assyria’s enemies to muster up against her. All these elements led to the ultimate fall of Assyria , but it is false to conclude “ Assyria would never be heard of again” because under the new Median, later Persian and Parthian empires, Assyrians served in their Armies and Royal services, and Assyria continued being called Asoristan and Athura. You should read the books, Ancient and modern Assyrians, and Nineveh beyond the fall of Assyria. There are sources in there that confirm all of this.
There are opinions among historians and travelers in many periods, especially in the early period, that the Medes are among the ancestors of the Kurds. The first historical document showing the bond between the Medes and the Kurds is in the Kar-nama, where the Papakan I 242 BC referred to Ardashir as the king of the Kurdish Med in his war against the Kurds.
Although Profesor Gernot Windfuhr has based the Kurdish languages as the lower layers of the Medce, she said that it is also similar to the Parthian language.
Hamedan doesn't even have Kurds tho. Im Persian and before there even was a Persian empire my ancestors have been living in Hamedan (Ecbatana) for as long as I can go back.
@@kianabahdear Kiyana more than half of the population of Hamedan are still Kurds , since the reign and dictatorship of pahlavi dynasty , the process of turkification and assimilation of Hamedan has begun , lying in not good for your skin 😂 I see you under every historic and cultural videos about Kurds , seems like u are a paid propaganda spreader , the end of percian fascism is about to end.
In Rigveda the dasarajna war describes iranian tribes like parsu,parthava,vaikarna,bhallana,pakhta,simyu,alina etc... Then after mahabharata and purans tells about madra tribe associated with them...
Medes and Ancient Persians left no dna traces of themselves. But there other ways to prove it. For Instances the closest modern Iranic language to Median Is Hawrami. Which is the oldest form of Kurdish language.
@@HistorywithCy iran is esau brother of yacov izrael in antics time iran is cannaanites hebrew , to not forget annunaky angels is come down in eden in irak and iran there is written in wall stone
Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city. Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian. All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.
@@HistorywithCy I found your contents very interesting and I Immediately subscribed to your lovely Chanel but I have a question that has been on my mind for some times, I will be grateful if you answer: I know from various sources that Achaemenid used scale armor but scale armors based on their shape and The kind of putting them together, divide into 9 types and thou I know archaeologists found many Achaemenian scale armor in sites like Persepolis, but interestingly enough I couldn't find any image of Achaemenid scales thus I don't know which type of scale armor Achaemenid used. do you have any image??????? if you do, I'll be very happy you share them with me.
@@maxnetirtimon4121 Hmm that's an interesting question. I'm not sure exactly but I think I that there are a few books that might have this information. One of them is called Shadows in the Desert: Ancient Persia at War by Kaveh Farrokh and the other is called The Achaemenid Persian Army by Duncan Head. I haven't read them in a while and what I remember mainly has to do with battle tactics but I think they did talk about shields and maybe even armor. They are also very well illustrated and so if there are pictures of these 9 types of armor, one of them would likely have it. See if you can get a copy of those... I'll also see if I have drawings/illustrations available. Good luck and let me know if there's any other way that I can help!
@@HistorywithCy first thank you so much I read the Shadows in the Desert its mainly about battle tactics but it had a picture of a scale armor found_i belive_ in Lycia so I don't know how Similar that is to those of Iranian plateau there is also this guy Cosplay's radpour.com/persians but I don't know how much they're accurate so I kinda reached a dead end but now I can read "The Achaemenid Persian Army" so thank you for answering
They didn’t merge with Kurds because Kurds didn’t exist back then. They were called Guti by Sumerians and Akkadians and raided neolithic people In Northwstern Iran. Their descendants called themselves Kurti which became kurdi and later kurdish.
@MHD 11 brother no difference between Persians and Kurds, one and the same people. I myself, as a Tajik (Persian), do not understand the Sassanian language, but there are similar words but I do not understand. today's Persian is the language of Samanids that is Bukhara and Samarkand (deolect of Asia).
@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî My dear bro 🙂🍀 ( brie min dli mni❤ ) I said i'm kurdish i'm tajik i'm irani. for me there is no difference. the difference is just different dialects.
Do you think it’s true that the Magi were a sub tribe of the Medes based in Rey and they had their own Avestan dialect and where the hereditary priestly class of the Medes?
@@Golshanim Herodotus says that they were one of the tribes of the Medes, but that's the only place I've heard this. There is a small Zoroastrian cult in India called Ilm-e Khshoom that believes in a bunch of Magi secretly living in Mt. Damavand who speak only pure Avesta and practice a very high form of Zoroastrianism, but this is just a splinter group and not related to the Medes. There is also a tradition that Zarathushtra was born in Rey, but again, there is no proof of this and based on the Avestan dialect of the Gathas, he was mostly likely born somewhere in Central Asia. If I learn more I'll let you know. Thanks again for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!
Superb. Very complete presentation of the Median people. Ecbatana or Heckmataneh means place of gatherings. Apparently it had 7 walls each a different colour. It’s well worth a visit in the modern city of Hamedan.
Hi! Yeah I've been to that area once, just for half a day to see the Ganjnameh inscriptions. Beautiful area though, remember going to a restaurant and being invited by a Kurdish family to join them. Another interesting place not to far from Hamadan that I'd like to visit in the future is the fortress of Tepe Nush-i Jan. It's probably the most complete Median site ever to have been uncovered. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Thx for the information, im Iranian i didn't know much about ancient medes. I also wished some of ancient assyrian capital remained. Do you know anything about the heavenly horse? Or the nesean horse? Its from medes ,later persians, bakhtrians and parthians and sasanian persians used them. It was the most legendary horse of all times. The medes were masters of horse breeding, the chinese and greek and persian sources describtion of the medes horses later known as persian horses was that they have had unusual colours ,plus their anatomi was so magestic that most of the nations who seen these horses called the heavenly horses, you can see these horses on sasanian persian stone carvings. In chinese book of tang they describe the horses havin the colours: Purple, red, leopard spotted, gold.
Darood baradar, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Yes, it's a type of horse that Herodotus mentions the Medes used, but other than that I don't know anything about it. If I come across something more, I"ll be sure to post it it. Merci and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy dorud is what people say but its incurrect version of the acctual parsi word "Drávát" (dorud is how some medival scholars who didn't speak parsi used to translate dravat from avesta درَوَت to Arabic دُروت، and Iranians are using the arabized version of the actual word 🤔) but its funny you can some farsi words 👍🏼 i didn't expected :) Your channel is very good! I just watched the etruscan video you posted before, keep the amazing work up 💯
Parts of Nineveh city did remain, there was also a re-settlement in and around the city of Nineveh under Cyrus and the Parthian empire, even the Assyrian temples of Nabu and Ishtar were rebuilt, and Sennacherib's palace continued to be in use and renovated, Ashur city & the temple of Ashur was also rebuilt and the city was semi-autonomous for centuries, from that point on, Assyrians lived under the Iranic empires as artists, construction workers (laborers, tax payers), and infantry men.
@@Keyhan-c8c oh very interesting, I didn't know that about the word. Oh I know some Farsi because I'm actually Zoroastrian and my ancestors are from Iran, though several generations of my family grew up in India and are called Parsis there. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! I'll be doing a lot on ancient Iranian history very soon so hopefully you'll enjoy that. Thanks again and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Parsis=Persians. In the Persian language, we say " Parsi " for Persian. Persian is the Latin, Greek, and English form of Parsi. Arabs don't have the letter "P" and they say Farsi for Parsi. In Muslim countries, they say Fars and Farsi. Even in Iran, we use this word.
Deioces appear to be a match for one of the Odin as lawgiver/king myths. Think: archetypes and motifs. ;) tbf to Herodotus, he often made the distinction between what he knew for certain, what others said, and what he actually believed to be true. Most history TH-camrs don't do as well. ;)
Excellent video! The succeeding empires theme was prevalent in the Hellenistic world and finds its way also in the book of Daniel. There, the author mistakenly places a "Darius the Mede" as ruling Babylon between Nabonaid and Cyrus, showing that Medians as rulers of an empire was really a memory and not grounded in history.
Kurds are descendant of meds but today we have been divided over different countries. Those countries even destroy any historical evidence if it serve history of kurdish in this area. For example in 20th century in iran they changed one of the graves of meds for their advantage. In our national kurdish anthem we say “ We are the descendants of the Medes and Cyaxares Kurdistan is our religion, our credo, Let no one say Kurds are dead, they are living They live and never shall we lower our flag”.
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.
Since you asked what video I’d like to see. I would like you to do a video on The origins of the Danoi, Denyen, Danuna, Dani, the tribe of Dan. Although the Greek story says they came from Danaus’s daughters from Egypt. I believe they came from the Acheans via the Achaemenid Empire into Illyrian. Then into Greece among the Achaeans and then out across the world. I’m particularly interested in the evidence of them spreading copper and bronze culture deep in to Asia, ar least as far as the Red River valley in Vietnam, where they leave their name like elsewhere as Dang. You can see Dang throughout Asia particularly around rivers and other bodies of water. Like you see Dan, Don, Den, Don, Din, Dan in in many place names in Central Asia, the Middle East and Europe. They are represented by the snake, serpent or later dragons
Love that you pronounce the names right so one can repeat and learn. History is interesting and so informative thank you for the information and research.❤❤😊
Thank you for this information about the Medes, the ancestors of the Kurds. In Sulaymaniyah, in the Kurdistan Region, there is a Qazqaban cave, in which there is the tomb of the last king of the Medes.
It’s in my village 😊
It is said ancestors of humans came from Africa, not true for Kurd?
@@saliksayyar9793 Ofcourse, the most ancient ancestors of mankind came from Africa, and the same is true for Kurds.
But the Medes are the ancestors of Kurds, not the MOST DISTANT ancestors.
For example; Your most distant ancestors came from africa, but that does not necesarily mean that your father or grandfather were africans.
Hope that answered your question.
Kurds aren't Medians. Stop making shit up.
Medes and Ancient Persians left no dna traces of themselves. But there other ways to prove it. For Instances the closest modern Iranic language to Median Is Hawrami. Which is the oldest form of Kurdish language.
Med language is classified as Western Iranian Languages just like Kurdish, it is the ancestor of Kurdish, 15. In a sacred text written in 7 languages in the century, the Med language is also included. H.W. Some scientists such as Bailey, Henning, Shanidze and David Neil MacKenzie examined the text and said that the text is the same as the Kurdish.
You forgot Luri and Laki and Balochi
@@iranianwarrior Laki (Kurdish: له‌کی, romanized: Lekî, Persian: لکی) is a vernacular that consists of two dialects; Pish-e Kuh Laki and Posht-e Kuh Laki. Laki is considered a Kurdish dialect,by most linguists and is spoken chiefly in the area between Khorramabad and Kermanshah by about one million native speakers.
@@iranianwarrior Baloch Luri Kurds=Medes
@@kurdistan1091 Yes I already know that. My grandpa was a Lak and he spoke Laki, Luri, and Kurdish
@@kurdistan1091 And Gilaks and Mazenis too
The Medes appear to be a native tribe or a confederation of tribes which are based in modern day Western Iran. The Medes are strongly connected to the tribes of Zagros and mountain ranges of West and Northern Iran as a matter of fact.
They are also known as Mada, Madu, Madai, Mah. King Diakku (Deioces) the first king of the Medes was from the tribe of Mannea which was a tribe/region linked with the Urartians and Mittani. Mannea is now known as Mokrian in Kurdish. We also use the name Diakku in naming our boys.
In classical Aramaic and Armenian sources the Kurds are referred to as Mah. The Assyrian oppression literally helped shape the modern Kurdish identity as the Medes unified all the smaller tribes and kingdoms under one banner to defeat the Assyrians. To simply even suggest we are not descended from the Medes is ridiculous, based on geography alone you can tell. However modern day Kurdish borders have definitely been pushed back nowadays, especially by Turkic invasion.
Love you bro hopefully all Iranian groups come together.
Tbf even as a kurd who has done a lot of research, any western iranic people can lay the same claim to the medes being one of their ancestors. A persian person can lay the same claim too the medes, and a kurdish person can also lay the same claim too ancient persians. The kurds are a heterogeneous people, which means their origins are not just median/iranic, but other ancient people make up their genetic mixture too. Of course genetics can vary from person too person, but a kurd is usually a mix of ancient mesopotamian people (especially if your kurd from iraq), ancient anatolian people, ancient iranic people (persians, medes etc) etc.
دمتگرم بخاطرتحلیل جالب ودقیقت وواقعا ما هممون ازنسل مادها هستیم چون قبل ازهخامنش دیاکوبنیانگذارپادشاهی درایران وحتی اولین شاهی دردنیابوده طبق اسنادی که هستن وجمعیت مادها درفلات ایران خیلی بیشتربوده وبنظرم طبق سندالان همینکه تقریباجمعیت الان مادیاکوردها۸۰ملیون نفره تقریبا پس قومیتی بزرگ بایدبوده باشن دراونزمان هم
thanks for showing our history of media love from a Kurdish person
You do an excellent job of presenting ancient history in layman's language. Your choice of ancient texts to cite is very dramatic and punchy. I'm fascinated by ancient middle-eastern history and your lectures/podcasts really make it come alive. Thank you, Cy!
Honestly, everything you said in your comment is exactly what I've been aiming for with this channel. Thank you, your words are really encouraging and let me know that I'm doing something right with my presentation of these things. More to come my friend, thanks so much for the support, I really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Any Kurds in here?!
Here! Biji Kurdi, Biji Medei.
MEDES --- THE REVIVAL. WASSUP!!
Kurd people are so strong and honest
I am half Kurd. My mom is Kurd, my dad is Cricaucassian(Adige)
Ci bu!
Em li virin!
Tu ku derey!?
E. Sloane and Vladimir minorsky described the Kurds as "the son of medes".
Much respect and thanks for this great video I'm hewrami - Kurd from hewraman.
@@Ardonbb assyrians are not Kurds
@@Ardonbb they are not
We still have Assyrians today
@@Ardonbb they are Semitic they wish to be Aryans
@@Ardonbb median are Kurds but not Assyrians
@@Ardonbb Karda yeah I know that was a place near Assyrian empire but it wasn’t Assyrians it was Kurdish
Inshallah we will create our Kurdistan
Wadie Jwaideh, a professor of history at the University of California, said: "The Med Empire, one of the prominent ancestors of the Kurdish people, is the first national state established by the Kurds.
@S U Van Bruinessen has been bought out by Islamic nation since 1998.
@S U Why don't you do your own research if you "doubt"?
@@MadKingOfMadayaçünkü Kürtler dağıldı ve bir devletleri yok
I'm certain that we Kurds are actually the descendents of the Medes. We even say it in our national anthem. "We are the descendents of Medea and Kay Khusraw(Cyaxares)." Kurdish people know what I mean.
Yeah that's very interesting and I didn't know that. I just looked up and read the translation. I'll make a note of that in my next video about the Persian Empire but in it I also talk about the Medes. Thanks, appreciate it.
@@HistorywithCy Don't fall for the propaganda. This is literally what they're taught in schools in Iraqi Kurdistan. However, theres no modern evidence which states that the Medes were Kurds; if anythings, theres plenty of modern evidence which refutes it. If you're interested, I'd be more than happy to send you some sources. Anyways, you and I both know that a national anthem isn't evidence for ethnogenisis or linguistics.
Arman Qureshi i saw ur comments in every related to kurds why u butthurt when someone talking about kurdish ethnicity. Kurds are children of Medes
@@kurdishmountainlion2516 because I’m an accredited historian and I’m troubled by the perpetuation of Pseudo-history. Nobody outside of the Kurdish community believes in the Mede/Kurd theory because it’s not reliable or factual.
Arman Qureshi okay then I’m median
The Medes are so interesting! Thank you for everything you do on this channel.
Hey, my pleasure! I'm so glad that so many of you are into this stuff...it inspires me to put out more. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!
Kurdish from urmia
We hope median empire come back☀️
Inshalla 👑☀️
im a Medes descendant but Iran has had way better empires
@@kianabah Media is Iran
@@houseofsuren510 yes it’s iran
@@kianabahit’s not
At one point all Kurds spoke in the Med dialect. 1/3rd of the Parthian empire consisted of the Kurdish Pehlewani tribe, and today the Pehlewani language is directly connected to the ancient Mede dialect of the Zaza-Gorani branch of the Kurdish language. Kurds have shown that they deserve their own nation.
I will never understand this obsession people have with forming ethno-states.
@@imnotgonnamakeanyvid Try getting your heritage stolen and you would most definitely feel the same..
@@LeixWUxLong what do you mean by that?
@@imnotgonnamakeanyvid Imagine being a homogenous people, thus have had your nations name taken away atleast 2-3 different times, have had your land pillaged and burned for millennials, your culture repressed, your native tongue forbidden. When would enough be enough for you? Kurds are reclaiming their heritage, by all means.
@@LeixWUxLong I'm looking at this from an Iranian perspective, I understand that kurds face discrimination in Turkey and Iraq but I never understood their beef with Iranians, especially since they are Iranian themselves! Iran ( in theory at least) is meant to be for all Iranians so It makes me sad to see some kurds want to tear it apart with such passion. The situation is not good right now, everybody is under pressure but tearing of and becoming a land locked country that's surrounded by enemies is not going to free the kurdish people, best case scenario you become a puppet state for some western super power that only cares about you as long as it can use you, worst case scenario you become the new afganistan!
Med language
Median language, or Median, was a Western Iranian language spoken by Medes. It belonged to the Northwest Iran subfamily, which includes many languages such as Kurdish (Sorani, Kurmanji), Zazaki-Gorani, luri Laki Gilan and Beluch.
@kristina zboodram Actually the people mentioned in this comment have similar looks to the Ancient Medes (The Mada) as well. Their language sounds a lot similar, While the Luri language sounds a bit like the Ancient Persian as well.
Something to mention here, is that the Kurdi language sounds a lot like the Ancient Mesopotamian languages as well.
And from what I know, some scholars actually say that the Kurdish people might have Mesopotamian roots as well as Iranian.
Medes language is closer to hurri and sumerians than persian language which is indo European, we are nor descendants of indo European, our language, costume, religion was different from them
@@kamyaresmailzade you're right but about iranians except medians, they were indo European with no Mesopotamian root
@@kamyaresmailzade this is true Kurds have Mesopotamian, Anatolian, Caucasus and Iranian ancestors. Many civilizations brought kurdish people today.
This is Zazaki vs Kurmanci:
(I don’t see)
“ez nevênenu”
vs
“ez nabinim”
Zazaki is one of the closest languages to Kurdish among the North-western Iranic languages. (Zaza language - Wikipedia)
In conclusion:
I really don’t care that much if the Kurds were the Kings and Queens of the Median Empire that is why I very seldomly write anything about it but
when I see others try to so hard to claim that the Kurds weren’t even related to Medes without even looking at the their own maps or the linguistic and cultural evidence I can’t help but wonder what motives could they actually have.
Well, when looking at the specific upvotes that they get, that curiosity is satisfied since it is full of people (Turkish, Arabic, Iranian nationalists) who would love to erase any Kurdish history from that region.
I feel like you do the voices of the Assyrian kings just perfectly.
haha thank you! You're in luck, there'll be more kings to quote in upcoming programs. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy "just how much horses he got and from who" best sentence. :D thanks man, keep up the good work!
In the Middle Ages, some historians called the Kurds Med, and interpreted their wars with the Kurds as Med occupation. Median language is included in the class of Western Iranian Languages just like Kurdish. Median is also included in a sacred text written in 7 languages in the 15th century. H.W. Some scholars such as Bailey, Henning, Shanidze and David Neil MacKenzie analyzed the text and found that the text was in Kurdish.
@S U ok turqo
The language doesn't represent the origins of a nation or a race. According to your logic, the Kurds in Turkey are originally Turkic because they speak Turkish..
@@yguc9342 One thing is sure with or without facts and evidence, u all in middle east were arameans/assyrians a long way back and today the same and in 2000 years from now... the same.. Only changes is the culture, language and religion . Father forgive them for what they don't understand, god bless.
@@Flamma7777 we are here for more than 12000 years and and the mid east is a huge region and the bridge between Asia, Africa and Europe that hosted hundreds of different ethnic groups for thousands of years. We are not only Arameans and Assyrians. They played a small role in our history.
@@yguc9342 unfortunately you are completely wrong, the first population was the Sumerians around 6500 years ago, then I am talking about history, facts and evidence. I'm telling you basically you are all the same but have different cultures and traditions, the problem started with to Arabic that's when Islamization started in the late 8th century when they chose to erase the original language Aramaic and its history through imams who then brainwashed the misguided people and divided the community.
The problem with this whole mix of peoples and different languages etc started with muhammad who was thrown out of the church in damascus because he did not agree with the church, he let his wife's uncle who was a priest (waraka ibn nawfal) to write his book because he could neither read or write, the priest wrote the "Quren" =write in aramaic.. and was efferently murdered, then muhammad was hunted by everyone because he chose to defy the holy bible and put the messages and words from his own perspective, this also happened because he had a big ego and felt bigger than others... had his story not existed, you would supposedly be called Arameans or Assyrians today but from different countries, and wars would be against the Jews and not against each other, think how wonderful it would be if everyone was united in the Middle East like for example Europe....
then after many invasions with muhammad's successors the mother tongue was no longer needed so they chose arabic as the mother tongue after all the dominance in the warpath. as well as translated the Quren into the Quran from the mother tongue into Arabic. They did everything they could to erase the language and history after Islam became dominant.
People went to war misled by imams and did not know that they were at war against themselves.
The story of Cyrus the Great being raised by a shepherd is such a worldwide trope! It occurs in the Bible & 1001 Nights and shows up Ancient Greek legends especially Oedipus. It even pops up in CS Lewis’ story The Horse and his boy, except the father is a fisherman rather than a shepherd!
Moses, Mahabharat's Karna, Paris of Troy and countless others
Actually according to many prominent schalors of religion, the Persian religion of Zoroastrianism also had a strong impact on the development of Judaism and through it on Christianity and Islam as wel, which is also interesting.
@@soniahemmati2372 very difficult to say which influenced the other precisely and when due to the obscurity of the origins of both judaism and zoroastrianism
@@tvrulz46 Yes I know it is difficult. But still, most scholars well trained in both traditions, conclude that Zoroastrianism most likely was the source, since the level of antiquity and originality of these ideas In Zoroastrianism seem to be much more clear and they also predate the earliest Jewish sources by the centuries. But it's not really even that important which one was the most likely source. As an Iranian, even if it was Zoroastrianism, it doesn't make me proud at all that it ever had anything to do with the development of the ludicrous Abrahamic religions, all of which are very misogynistic, justify or even promote slavery and they have an insane, enraged God that tortures people constantly. I agree that Christianity is more peaceful, but still they consider the old Testament, which is full of racist, hateful, genocidal commands by an insane God, as part of one of their holy book and it has been used by Christians to justify various crimes including genocide and slavery. Islam is also an Arabized and universalized version of Judaism. Mohammad obviously believed the stories of the old Testament to be true and was very much inspired by them and considered himself a Moses of sorts, with all his destructions, plunders and attacks on the non-believers. The main difference is that at least, in the old Testament, those commands to murder, plunder and the enslave non-Jews is limited to the so-called promised land, but Mohammad copied and expanded this theory to the whole world and that's basically how Islam began.
@@soniahemmati2372 fair enough. As someone who has no vested interest in any of these religions I want to provide an alternative perspective of the vengeful Old Testament god. It may not be that he was insane but rather playing a necessary evil to guide a still nascent human collective consciousness through a master plan which we can not comprehend. Killing a certain tribe may have been necessary to facilitate humanity but that does not mean god did not have ,erect on those victims of genocide. They may have been taken to some other special place of gods choosing befitting and recompensing their fate which is apart from paradise or hell.
As a kurd I’m really grateful for this video u made and thank u for your effort
In the work that examines the history of the baluch written in the middle ages called kurdgalnamek, it is written that the Kurds and the Baluchs are the descendants of the Medes.
This is our history!
The history of the Kurds!
Medes are persian.
@@dancemonkey118 no you are wrong. Read history! In the beginning there was 2 different people. The Medes and the Persian. The Medes in West and the Persian in the south. Deioces we say in Kurdish Diyako was the first King of the Medes. He is the grandfather of the Kurdish Mukri tribe in today's Erea where Diyako create the Median Empire. Kurdish dna and Kurdish language are Medes origin. The Medes have nothing to do with Persian.
@@dancemonkey118 liar, a big fat liar.
@@teflondon4539 stupid . the medes was Persians or turk or azaris not dam Kurt's stop making history for your selfes. tamam?
@@dancemonkey118
medes not kurd and persian.medes race unknown.
Thanks for this. It's really hard to find good content on the lesser known (and even some of the better known) civilisations.
My pleasure, glad you liked it. I have some more lesser-known civs coming up...some of them I didn't even know about until relatively recently. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
The first historical document showing the bond between the Medes and the Kurds is in the Kar-nâme, mentioning Erdeşîr I Papakan (242 BC) as the Kurdish king of Med.
kurds are the descendants of medes(maybe) not vice-versa. in 242 BC there were no kurds.
I've read the Kar-namag, and in it the Kurds are mentioned several times, though Ardashir lived in 180-242 AD not BC.
@@gha1934😂😂😂🧐?
They aren't mention as kurdu but iranic
Love learning about early Iranian history. Great video!
Love providing it! There's a lot of it coming in the next few months. As always, thanks so much for all of the support, I really appreciate it...I know it sounds like a broken record but stay safe!
History with Cy thanks, I look forward to all your content!
These are all Iranian Peoples!
Medes 🦁 kurds not iran is pasia🖕😏
The plot thickens !!
At 24:00 there is a story about killing baby Cyrus, whose name is still unknown,
Compare this to the prophecy of Isaiah, calling Cyrus by name 200 years before his birth, saying that he is the one chosen by God to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple.
Now compare it to Herod the great hearing about a prophesied king, then going on a killing spree to prevent it from happening.
This was awesome, can't wait to hear more. Do you think the Medes are genetically similar to the Kurds so in a way the Kurds are their descendants?
kurdish is from medes like iran
Yes Kurds are a directly descent of the Medes. Cyaxares organized and led the the Medes (one of the earliest records of organized Kurds) and led them with an iron fist throughout Iran. However, Cyaxares's son that would be later known as King Astyages gave his daughter to the Persian empire, hence the era of Medo-Persian empire. Sadly that was the end of the Kurds "say" in the game of politics, as the Persian empire would try to erase the name of the Medes. Thank goodness gracious for the Hellas for documenting the truth.
kalle145 Medes are descendants of Iranian Azaris.
Kevin E Azaris are ethnically and racially Iranic peoples. Only their language was displaced from a Western Iranian language called Adhari to a Turkic language in the 13th century.
@@kevine5703 Azeris are genetically close to the Medes than the Kurds will ever be. the Kurds are just as related to the Medes as the Persians are and all other Iranians; the Medes were simply Iranians
Perfect as always.
Thanks.
Anyway, I am still waiting for the rest of Elamite empire. You cut the series on Elamite at the most exciting part!
Wish you luck
Haha yes I remember your request about continuing the Elam series. I think I might just redo it because it's been about a year since I last made a video on them. Maybe I'll do a podcast like this on all of Elam, including the Neo-Elamite part that I missed. Thanks for your enthusiasm for Elam, I'll see what I can do. Stay safe!
Great work mate. I love your videos 🌹
Thanks my, glad you enjoyed it! Interesting name... I'm going to Ecbatana/Hamadan next month!
@@HistorywithCy
I wish you all the best mate, appreciate your great work Cy 🙏🏻
I’m from Mahabad my self just 5 hours from our Beautiful Capital.
Baluch ve kurd !
One nation !
Bijî Kurd Bijî Baluch 😊✌
Biji BALOCH & KURD ❤️
Yak Roch Azad bibit maatey watan balochistan
Wow I actually saw this before I got the notification
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I wish there were more TH-cam channels like yours. I admire this content
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! There will definitely be a lot more on the history of ancient Iran coming up in the next few months...stay tuned and stay safe!
Important thing to note is that an Assyrian king is the representative of Ashur and is considered the 'high priest' of Ashur in the nation. Interesting tale about King Sargon II, in 705 BC, Sargon II returned to the rebellious province of Tabal and did not know about the alliance it created with the Cimmerians, so Sargon II charged at the Tabal/Cimmerians and was killed during battle, the thing is though, his body was taken by the Cimmerian alliance, and Sargon II never had a proper burial, and in Ashurism (Assyrian religion), if the Assyrian king did not have a proper burial, his spirit would be cursed to haunt the lands forever.
Yup, that's correct. I think that's also why Sennacherib seems to have gone out of his way to distance himself from his father. He probably thought that Sargon II's excessive worship of Marduk meant that he was abandoning Ashur, which was perhaps why Sennacherib felt that when Babylon revolted, he was justified and would even be protected by Ashur should he need to resort to subduing the city with great violence. Assyrian history is so fascinating and really in my opinion is so much better than any work of fiction.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. There's are more Assyrian history videos on this channel if you're interested. Thanks again and stay safe!
Very Interesting. The Medes are often overlooked. Thanks Cy!
Thanks man, I really appreciate the kind words and your interest in this stuff...stay safe!
These are all Iranian Peoples!
@@lovelyartin Kurdish not Iranian
@@elkurdo227 kurds are Iranian people
@@lovelyartin Nope we ain't sorry for your optimisation 🥲
MEDES KURDSH EMPIRE
They are persians.
@@dancemonkey118 no they are not they are kurds
@@dancemonkey118 True
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.
Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. I am a Medes from Persia/Iran. Kurds are not Medes.
Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city.
Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian.
All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.
In the Middle Ages, some historians called the Kurds the Med, and interpreted the wars they waged with the Kurds as the invasion of the Medes.
Keep it great work. This is one of my favorite channels.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the kind words...more to come for sure, stay safe!
I like all your educational videos even without watching them! 😉
Im Persian....Kurds are our Ancient brothers for ever ❤️ hope that we can bring back our ancient heritage together against evil islam
First of all you must accept a autonomes region Kurdistan of Iran
yeah give the rojhilat to us and then we’re brothers!
when we finally become equal we will my brother we will fight against anyone who oppose us
Kurds are not Medes.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran turk mangol
Thanks for talking about Kurds , since we lost our country and got divided among 5 countries , unfortunately no one recognises us ❤️☀️💚 but good news about the independence of Kurdistan can be heard , long live my friends 🫂
Your country was the Ottoman Empire.
@@salamyaya162 ottoman empire was Kurdish Empire so yes ottoman empire is Kurdistan.
@@salamyaya162Medes and Ancient Persians left no dna traces of themselves. But there other ways to prove it. For Instances the closest modern Iranic language to Median Is Hawrami. Which is the oldest form of Kurdish language.
My man your videos are priceless. Much respect 🫡
I'm always learning 👊☘️
I like that you reference so many primary sources! please continue :)
Thanks, I love reading primary sources so glad you found them useful. Will do in other programs as well. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
Russian historian and linguist Vladimir Minorski states that the Medes, who lived in lands where the Kurds now form the majority, are the ancestors of the modern Kurds.
at 20:00 It was said that the Assyrian king who was fighting against the Babylonians and Medes was killed during the Battle of Nineveh and the new king, Ashur-Uballit II, was offered vassalage if he surrendered. So Assyria could've actually lived on but Ashur-Uballit II chose to fight to last man at Harran and Carchemish. I actually wrote an alt-history on if Ashur-Uballit II chose vassalage instead of fighting to the end. I wrote how Assyria would eventually reassert independence just like how they did with the Mitanni.
That's actually really cool... I never thought what would have happened if Ashur-uballit II had become a vassal of Babylonia or Media. Would he have stayed in Harran or made one of his conditions being that he needed to go back to Ashur? I'm curious as to what happened in your story (you don't have to give away the ending if you don't want, but sounds really interesting). I often thought about doing some sort of alternate history vid, something like "What if the Persians hadn't lost at Salamis" or "What if the Sasanians had one the battle of Qadisiyah" or scenarios like that. Maybe I'll do it in the future after I cover what really happened there and then what could or may have been had the outcome been different. As always, great to hear from you...stay safe!
mittanii is other empires name change of iran mix medes hittites in anatolia kurdish is iranics origins the arabics nations is come later in 700 this era against roman empires , to not forget scityians was enemy of roman empires in anatolia serbia dacia steppe of russia , scityians dominated the romans empires in getae name scithes and massagets scito sarmatics medes kurdish and partians iranians branch hordes of scityians familiy
You have a great pace and cadence with your speaking voice. You sound genuine. Great job.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed this... the audio and recording my voice have in the past been my greatest challenges with making videos, so glad it was OK for this program, especially since there is no music. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it and more on the way!
I love your dramatic readings of the ancient annals. All your history lessons are excellent.
Also let's not forget that the Medes are united kurdish tribes and only when the kurds are unified/united are they referred to as the MEDES.
I love the Medes. Them and my for fathers were always in alliance together. I pay respect to the Medes, big love from the Chaldeans 🙏...
Thanks, one of my favorite topics! Stay safe!
love to our Chaldeans brothers and sisters
much love and respect to you 🙏❤️
@@medeskurdishempire825 ❤️❤️ thanks brother.
@@chakibashi267 big love back brother ❤️
Respect for you 😎😎😎
Thank you, appreciate it...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I Stay safe
But 🇹🇷
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I'm glad you do your own narration.
With all those foreign names I wonder how a robotic voice would have botched the names.
Haha thanks, I didn't know that people still did that. I've seen a couple of older videos on health and related issues have a computer voice which is just weird. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!
Very informative! Thanks for all your hard work.
Were they Kurdish...
Fantastic work, full of knowledge as usual.
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The first Kurdish Identity was created in 612 BC
the Kurds were a mix of people and cultures who united into one Identity known as Kurds, these people were a mix of
Medes-Hittites-Mitanni-Hurrians-Gutians-Luwian-Hourites-Kasites-Sumerian-Phrygians-Mannaeans
The medes were not Kurdish but they were ancestors to them.
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.
Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. I am a Medes from Persia/Iran. Kurds are not Medes.
Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city.
Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian.
All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran I keep seeing Kurds claiming the history of the Median empire as well as the Faravahar symbol. Is there literally any evidence that's real to suggest they are even related?
@@PPRhydon Medes Iranians have nothing to do with Kurds. And Faravahar is an Iranian symbol. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran.
everyone knows the medes are kurds without someone who hate us😌❤
I read that when historian first read the description of Nineveh in the bible, they dismissed that such a large city could have existed at that time, until it was found by archeologists.
They also claimed the Hittite empire did not exist from the Bible but then they found archaeological evidence in Turkey.
@@dominiqueblagojevic9447 And it's true of a multitude of historical events, I was watching a video "Evidence for the Bible (with Brian Edwards)" showing a few such examples. There is also very solid physical and historical evidence all over the place for the flood of Noah, "Mega-Sequences' Evidence for the Global Flood" and "90 minutes of evidence for the global flood" with Dr. Kurt Wise.
@@jb0433628 Yes. Not to mention that most every civilization has a flood story even in china they do. We the Bible is the true word of God.
@Anonymous No one cares about your opinion.
@@jb0433628 The evidence is that there was a massive flood that hit the Near East. Not the whole world mind but when the tales were written they would've believed it was.
i love this channel,nicely explanation .keep it up
Thanks my friend, I appreciate the kind words. Stay safe!
Nice podcast, love listening to this while doing work in the background!
Thanks my friend, I really appreciate it... glad it helps...stay safe!
Great!!!
Kurds gang wya ☀
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Iran is not land of persians, most of persians empire is kurdish, persians didnt exist, we kurds was in Iran way before persians, persians came from western india, go be educated, medes were anicent kurds, todays DNA medes are closest to kurds both with language and culture, stop claiming our history like yall took western Iran which is kurdistan, go be educated kid
@@Mandarah-o8m No, the Medes never called themselves Kurd. Kurdish clothing is not similar to the Medes clothing. And the capital and main cities of the Medes are Persian cities, etc.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Ecbatana was capital of median empire which is a part of kurdistan, it is a kurdish city with kurdish population Stfu
Excellent work CY! Some things that come to mind: on deioces: i think the inscription of sargon 2 mentions a daiukku....this individual is described as a mannean provincial governor ruling a district bordering Assyria. His son was held hostage by urartians. The name sounds a lot like deioces. And the dates of his office also match
(around 710-705 bc?) What do you think?
Second point: i am surprised the last assyrian kings are not mentioned in your disscussion on cyaxares. 2 brothers, sons of ahur banipal, where kings, plus their was an assyrian general who sided with nabopollassar. One of the brothers, sinsharishkun (627-612) was very likely the same notorious gay king sardanapallus mention by many classical authors later on. He was the guy who everybody ganged up on and ultimately besieged him at Nineveh. (The bullies where cyaxares and nabopolassar)
What do you think?
Hi Juan, thanks so much for stopping by and your comments, I really appreciate them! On Daiukku, yes, he was possibly a Mannaean vassal king or governor as you pointed out, but just based on the name alone it's difficult to confirm whether he is the same person that the story of Deioces is based on. It is possible since Herodotus claims that he ruled for 53 years and so maybe there was some overlap but again, it could have simply been coincidence that the names sound familiar.
With regard to the last Assyrian kings, I guess I had already talked briefly about them in the program on Assyria (Ashur etil-ilani, the eunuch Sin-shum-lishir, Sin-sharra-ishkun who was presumably killed in the sack of Nineveh and the last, Ashur-uballit II, who fought on until shortly after the fall of Harran), so I suppose I left them out here. I generally don't focus too much on the classical authors when it comes to Assyrian history because generally what they've written was hearsay compiled long after the events they describe took place and also now, we have a lot of Assyrian and Babylonian records and texts that are much more reliable. However, with regard to the Medes, since we don't have too many texts that talk about specifics or the lives of their early kings, we kind of have to use Herodotus because he's really all we've got.
Anyway, hope this answers your questions and if not, don't hesitate to ask more. Thanks again for stopping by, I'm so glad when you all take interest in this stuff... stay safe!
The mythical story that Herodotus mentioned in his book is a Median story that was made for Cyrus II. The purpose of the creator of the story was to explain the reason for Cyrus's kindness and his soft nature. However, Herodotus got some part of the story wrong and thought that " Spaco" which in Median language, means "Dog" was the name of shepherd's wife but was the name of shepherd's dog. The story wants to tell that Cyrus suckled a dog nipple and drank milk out of it, when he was an infant. Dog was a cherished and well treated animal in Medes society as human's best friend. Median were Horse breeder and the dog was a useful animal for herding horses. Dogs were also useful to give a warning to them of Assyrians and Scythians attacks before they reach to their cities and villages. There is one account that says: When Hephaestion died in Ecbatana, Alexander destroyed the temple of Anahita in Ecbatana out of rage. There was a statute of a dog beside the statute of Anahita. m
Cy is awesome. Love this channel.
Man am I happy to have found this channel. Great stuff.
Thanks so much and glad that you stopped by... more to come on all periods... stay tuned!
@@HistorywithCy Awesome! Nobody really covers this period like you do. I like the Roman Republic and Empire, but this is fascinating. These empires were as ancient, or more so, to the Roman's as the Roman's are to us and I find that so wild.
I'd love to se you cover China or the Rus, but whatever comes I will be there happy to soak it in. Thanks!
The Ancient Kurdish People!✊🏽
They weren’t kurdish
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 his ancient turkhis and iranians and kurdish mixtures in iran and central asia tarim basin siberya inner mongolia xiongu kazak sionistics scityians mixtures turkhis siberyans iranians origins becouse they spooke sanskrit farsy, after formed turuk turanians in inner mongolia turkmenistan uyghur uzbeki is turkhis iranians mixtures just ask turkmenistan brother of turkey oghus tribe dunya words in turkey means world is sanskrit farsy words
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 and azery and kazak is turkhis iranians only georgia armenia is pures iranics and volga bolgars was,iranics ,mixtures russian kievan viking formed russia , , they was scito sarmatyans iranians volga bolgars, and central asia tarim basin ,scityians saka
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G&C RECORDS ?????? What are you try to saying
The fall of Assyria was not just brought down by the Medes and Babylonians, but by many elements. Shamash-ShumuKin, AshurBanipal’s older brother, whom was so jealous, conspired against him, because he felt he should have inherited the empire and not his younger brother, whom realistically was more apt from all aspects. This weakened the empire, treachery within. The fact is that it took a coalition of Babylonians, Medes, Elamites, Scythians and Persians to bring down Assyria, and yet even that alone was not the whole story of the fall. A scientific article published a few years ago says the fall of the Assyrian Empire began 200 years prior with devastating climate change in the region, and this emboldened all of Assyria’s enemies to muster up against her. All these elements led to the ultimate fall of Assyria , but it is false to conclude “ Assyria would never be heard of again” because under the new Median, later Persian and Parthian empires, Assyrians served in their Armies and Royal services, and Assyria continued being called Asoristan and Athura. You should read the books, Ancient and modern Assyrians, and Nineveh beyond the fall of Assyria. There are sources in there that confirm all of this.
There are opinions among historians and travelers in many periods, especially in the early period, that the Medes are among the ancestors of the Kurds. The first historical document showing the bond between the Medes and the Kurds is in the Kar-nama, where the Papakan I 242 BC referred to Ardashir as the king of the Kurdish Med in his war against the Kurds.
Thank you sir! this video means a lot to me
Although Profesor Gernot Windfuhr has based the Kurdish languages as the lower layers of the Medce, she said that it is also similar to the Parthian language.
Thank you for this video about Medes! I'm a huge fan of them so it was a delight to learn something new.
My pleasure, glad you liked it! More to come on both the Medes and the Persians, stay tuned and safe!
Im Kurdi Im son of Medes ❤️☀️💚✌️
Hamedan doesn't even have Kurds tho. Im Persian and before there even was a Persian empire my ancestors have been living in Hamedan (Ecbatana) for as long as I can go back.
@@kianabahdear Kiyana more than half of the population of Hamedan are still Kurds , since the reign and dictatorship of pahlavi dynasty , the process of turkification and assimilation of Hamedan has begun , lying in not good for your skin 😂 I see you under every historic and cultural videos about Kurds , seems like u are a paid propaganda spreader , the end of percian fascism is about to end.
True@Adanzeyehalilibrahim
In Rigveda the dasarajna war describes iranian tribes like parsu,parthava,vaikarna,bhallana,pakhta,simyu,alina etc...
Then after mahabharata and purans tells about madra tribe associated with them...
Thanks for a very interesting video. Just wondering, are the Gutians and the Kassites ancestors of the Medes?
@ابوالفضل مازنی .Thanks for the info
I am always stunned by the humility of the assyrian kings.
Lol or really any king in general from that time period. Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it!
I swear god even our grand ancestors were fighting for freedom, her bijî Median Kurdistanê✌🏼☀️
What freedom, my brother? Your ancestors killed the indigenous people of Iran, like the people of Elam. You are evil
Gid made us to fight for Justice, go back to Summerian block, the Guti trieb was fitghing them in the 3-d melleinum😂😂😂
@@deheradewera545 lol that's crazy bro.
Medes and Ancient Persians left no dna traces of themselves. But there other ways to prove it. For Instances the closest modern Iranic language to Median Is Hawrami. Which is the oldest form of Kurdish language.
Media Kurdistan 💜
very informative video！good work！
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy iran is esau brother of yacov izrael in antics time iran is cannaanites hebrew , to not forget annunaky angels is come down in eden in irak and iran there is written in wall stone
Watching this from MEDIA, love your work
❤☀️long live kurdish☀️❤
Em kurdim ✌🏽
Kurds are not Medes.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran cry baby cry 😂
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Irancry lmao Deicoes the first king of Med rose hes state from Rojhelat,Kurdistan moderne day
We are Kurds the Medan are our Ancestors... Ty 4 ur Support :)
Yes medes are Kurdish empire
Medes/Medians were Iranian and they were related to the Persians. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes.
Medes/Median were Iranian. Medes/Media was Iran. The capital of the Medes is in Iran and it is a Persian city.
Even the traditional Kurdish clothing bear no resemblance to the Medes/Median clothing. But the traditional clothing of Persian and Lur Iranians is similar to the Medes/Median clothing. And the Luri language is a dialect of old Persian.
All Medes/Median cities today are Persian cities. Persians and Medes/Medians mixed together.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iranमद्रदेश आर्याणां देश ईरान। अब धर्मभ्रष्ट होकर वेदनिन्दकनास्तिक आर्यद्रोही हैँ।। 15:09
Thanks for the video from Erbil
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by! Stay safe!
Love your content bro!
Thank you, more on the way, stay tuned!
meds are so overlooked
Agreed! Thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I found your contents very interesting and I Immediately subscribed to your lovely Chanel but I have a question that has been on my mind for some times,
I will be grateful if you answer: I know from various sources that Achaemenid used scale armor but scale armors based on their shape and The kind of putting them together, divide into 9 types and thou I know archaeologists found many Achaemenian scale armor in sites like Persepolis, but interestingly enough I couldn't find any image of Achaemenid scales thus I don't know which type of scale armor Achaemenid used. do you have any image??????? if you do, I'll be very happy you share them with me.
@@maxnetirtimon4121 Hmm that's an interesting question. I'm not sure exactly but I think I that there are a few books that might have this information. One of them is called Shadows in the Desert: Ancient Persia at War by Kaveh Farrokh and the other is called The Achaemenid Persian Army by Duncan Head. I haven't read them in a while and what I remember mainly has to do with battle tactics but I think they did talk about shields and maybe even armor. They are also very well illustrated and so if there are pictures of these 9 types of armor, one of them would likely have it. See if you can get a copy of those... I'll also see if I have drawings/illustrations available. Good luck and let me know if there's any other way that I can help!
@@HistorywithCy first thank you so much I read the Shadows in the Desert its mainly about battle tactics but it had a picture of a scale armor found_i belive_ in Lycia so I don't know how Similar
that is to those of Iranian plateau there is also this guy Cosplay's radpour.com/persians but I don't know how much they're accurate so I kinda reached a dead end but now I can read "The Achaemenid Persian Army" so thank you for answering
When the Medes entered the Zagros, they merged with the Kurds, and the Kurds are the original Iranian people.🦁🇮🇷
Kurds are one of the original peoples, the Aryan tribes are many
Majus
They didn’t merge with Kurds because Kurds didn’t exist back then. They were called Guti by Sumerians and Akkadians and raided neolithic people In Northwstern Iran. Their descendants called themselves Kurti which became kurdi and later kurdish.
Medes and Kurds are the same, like Iranian and Persian
Kurds orginaly from kurdistan iran country was kurdish country
we are all Aryans💪🏻❤🌹🙋🏻♂️
Medians❤ and Persians❤ are one people and one history and one Blood. we love you. from Tajikistan🇹🇯❤🌹🙋🏻♂️
@MHD 11 no they were not Persians
@MHD 11
brother no difference between Persians and Kurds, one and the same people. I myself, as a Tajik (Persian), do not understand the Sassanian language, but there are similar words but I do not understand. today's Persian is the language of Samanids that is Bukhara and Samarkand (deolect of Asia).
@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî
My dear bro 🙂🍀 ( brie min dli mni❤ )
I said i'm kurdish i'm tajik i'm irani.
for me there is no difference. the difference is just different dialects.
@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî
Bele brie min. Ez qurbane Kurdanim.❤
Her biji merdumi Kurde ma ve Her biji merdumi Tocike ma.🌹❤🙋🏻♂️🙂
@@aryanboy8409 I love all Aryan people but medes empire is Kurdish empire
Excellent video. Well done.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the kind words. Stay safe!
You need to do a video on the Scythian’s and all the various people associated with them. Please join the Scythian Group on Facebook if you can
Do you think it’s true that the Magi were a sub tribe of the Medes based in Rey and they had their own Avestan dialect and where the hereditary priestly class of the Medes?
@@Golshanim Herodotus says that they were one of the tribes of the Medes, but that's the only place I've heard this. There is a small Zoroastrian cult in India called Ilm-e Khshoom that believes in a bunch of Magi secretly living in Mt. Damavand who speak only pure Avesta and practice a very high form of Zoroastrianism, but this is just a splinter group and not related to the Medes. There is also a tradition that Zarathushtra was born in Rey, but again, there is no proof of this and based on the Avestan dialect of the Gathas, he was mostly likely born somewhere in Central Asia. If I learn more I'll let you know. Thanks again for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!
@@Golshanim Working on it! Oh I didn't know there was a Schythian group... I'll check it out. Thanks!
Superb. Very complete presentation of the Median people. Ecbatana or Heckmataneh means place of gatherings. Apparently it had 7 walls each a different colour. It’s well worth a visit in the modern city of Hamedan.
Hi! Yeah I've been to that area once, just for half a day to see the Ganjnameh inscriptions. Beautiful area though, remember going to a restaurant and being invited by a Kurdish family to join them. Another interesting place not to far from Hamadan that I'd like to visit in the future is the fortress of Tepe Nush-i Jan. It's probably the most complete Median site ever to have been uncovered. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I loved the beautiful waterfall next to Gangnameh
@@Golshanim Oh yes, I remember that! It's a beautiful area...that and Kermanshah also is nice!
Med kurd ♥️☀️💚🦁
No, Kurds are not Medes.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Yes they are.We are the Modern Medes and its already proven
@@qolalite6001 No, you are not.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran Oh im sorry my god u know everything.Even tho there is evidence what u say is true....
@@qolalite6001 stop trolling
Medes = Kurd
Thx for the information, im Iranian i didn't know much about ancient medes.
I also wished some of ancient assyrian capital remained.
Do you know anything about the heavenly horse? Or the nesean horse? Its from medes ,later persians, bakhtrians and parthians and sasanian persians used them.
It was the most legendary horse of all times.
The medes were masters of horse breeding, the chinese and greek and persian sources describtion of the medes horses later known as persian horses was that they have had unusual colours ,plus their anatomi was so magestic that most of the nations who seen these horses called the heavenly horses, you can see these horses on sasanian persian stone carvings.
In chinese book of tang they describe the horses havin the colours:
Purple, red, leopard spotted, gold.
Darood baradar, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Yes, it's a type of horse that Herodotus mentions the Medes used, but other than that I don't know anything about it. If I come across something more, I"ll be sure to post it it. Merci and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy dorud is what people say but its incurrect version of the acctual parsi word "Drávát" (dorud is how some medival scholars who didn't speak parsi used to translate dravat from avesta درَوَت to Arabic دُروت، and Iranians are using the arabized version of the actual word 🤔) but its funny you can some farsi words 👍🏼 i didn't expected :)
Your channel is very good! I just watched the etruscan video you posted before, keep the amazing work up 💯
Parts of Nineveh city did remain, there was also a re-settlement in and around the city of Nineveh under Cyrus and the Parthian empire, even the Assyrian temples of Nabu and Ishtar were rebuilt, and Sennacherib's palace continued to be in use and renovated, Ashur city & the temple of Ashur was also rebuilt and the city was semi-autonomous for centuries, from that point on, Assyrians lived under the Iranic empires as artists, construction workers (laborers, tax payers), and infantry men.
@@Keyhan-c8c oh very interesting, I didn't know that about the word. Oh I know some Farsi because I'm actually Zoroastrian and my ancestors are from Iran, though several generations of my family grew up in India and are called Parsis there.
Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! I'll be doing a lot on ancient Iranian history very soon so hopefully you'll enjoy that. Thanks again and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Parsis=Persians. In the Persian language, we say " Parsi " for Persian. Persian is the Latin, Greek, and English form of Parsi. Arabs don't have the letter "P" and they say Farsi for Parsi. In Muslim countries, they say Fars and Farsi. Even in Iran, we use this word.
Amazing channel
Thank you!
Deioces appear to be a match for one of the Odin as lawgiver/king myths.
Think: archetypes and motifs. ;) tbf to Herodotus, he often made the distinction between what he knew for certain, what others said, and what he actually believed to be true. Most history TH-camrs don't do as well. ;)
I m Median (Kurd)
The first group that gave allegiance to Jesus was a Med (Kurd) tribe.That's how it goes in the Bible
@Arkam Knight The Medes are the ancestors of the Baloch and Ossetians, especially the Kurds. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
In balochistan yak tribe ent medes med volcano
How different history would be if they actually heal people like they claim to.
Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy You're the national treasure here, you stay safe
Hey Cy, Thanks for making another great episode! I really enjoy listening while I work.
My pleasure, glad you liked it! Thanks for stopping by and stay safe!
Excellent video! The succeeding empires theme was prevalent in the Hellenistic world and finds its way also in the book of Daniel. There, the author mistakenly places a "Darius the Mede" as ruling Babylon between Nabonaid and Cyrus, showing that Medians as rulers of an empire was really a memory and not grounded in history.
Kurds are descendant of meds but today we have been divided over different countries. Those countries even destroy any historical evidence if it serve history of kurdish in this area. For example in 20th century in iran they changed one of the graves of meds for their advantage.
In our national kurdish anthem we say “ We are the descendants of the Medes and Cyaxares
Kurdistan is our religion, our credo,
Let no one say Kurds are dead, they are living
They live and never shall we lower our flag”.
Kurdish history ✌🏽
Medes Real Koords From İran Hamadan
Kurds are not Medes. Stop claiming the history of Iran. The Kurds want to steal the history of Iran. Kurds are not Medes. I am Lur-Lak from Iran and I have a bachelor's degree in history. The Medes have nothing to do with these Kurds.
@@Biblical.Magi_Persia_Iran jealous!
@@Ebru_33 History thieves!
Since you asked what video I’d like to see. I would like you to do a video on The origins of the Danoi, Denyen, Danuna, Dani, the tribe of Dan. Although the Greek story says they came from Danaus’s daughters from Egypt. I believe they came from the Acheans via the Achaemenid Empire into Illyrian. Then into Greece among the Achaeans and then out across the world. I’m particularly interested in the evidence of them spreading copper and bronze culture deep in to Asia, ar least as far as the Red River valley in Vietnam, where they leave their name like elsewhere as Dang. You can see Dang throughout Asia particularly around rivers and other bodies of water. Like you see Dan, Don, Den, Don, Din, Dan in in many place names in Central Asia, the Middle East and Europe. They are represented by the snake, serpent or later dragons
I think it's just a similarity of names like the people of Canaan
Love that you pronounce the names right so one can repeat and learn. History is interesting and so informative thank you for the information and research.❤❤😊