Knipex Vs. Klein Side Cutters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I compare two electrical tool manufacture titans Klein to Knipex to see who makes the better tool. Agree or Disagree with the result post your outlook in the comments! Do not forget to like, share and subscribe! Next week I going to compare Knipex to Klein in their plumb pliers!
Thanks for Watching,
Nick
As an electrician I have used the same pairs of Knipex combination pliers and side cutters for over 25 years. Both are as good now as they were the day I bought them. I regard that as very good value for money. And i'm not overly careful how I use them.
I love knipex cobras but being an American I use USA made klein for my pliers and screwdrivers. They get the job done and last for many years.
Maybe the old Kleins but if you look at new ones it's made in China
I love Knipex Tools. I first found out about them when i was working for OTIS Elevator in Las Vegas Nevada. I bought a pair of Knipex Alligator pliers. Man without a doubt the best Pliers i have ever used in my life. It made my escalator and elevator repairs alot easier. Take care all and be safe out there
Get some Knipex Cobra pliers, they will make you almost forget about the Alligators. ;)
I know you posted that 4 years ago... but im searching for a bday gift for my hubby who is a 3rd year helper who is gearing up. His Bday is a month away so if you happen to ever see this and have any suggestions about what you guys actually USE and love in general (I know things change, and dont know him, how he works ect) But still you probably have some helpful insight. I bought him some really expensive tools for Christmas that I dont think he needed at all lol.
@@peppercmg6012 - If you're looking for some good tools that he may not be thinking of, check out the Klein all-purpose needle nose pliers with the crimper. $40 and they replace about 4 tools in 1. Knipex 8" combination pliers are way more useful than most huge pairs of linesman pliers. Most underrated tool that no one ever has? A simple 1/4" spinner handle.
I absolutely love knipex pliers. All types are amazing
What is the model details of klien diagonal pliers you used?
I dont understand how the title of the video has side cutters in it and its a comparison of diagonal cutting pliers lol i really wish people would use the correct words.
I would rather see a comparison of regular Knipex 7402200 and Klein.
Damn 56 CAD, would've been all over it for this price, now it's close to $150 after tax.
I'm almost 100% sure you are using the WRONG cutters for this video. The Klein diagonal cutters come with red or blue handles in journeyman series also... red handles are designed to cut copper wire ONLY. I'm a commercial electrician. When I first got into the trade I was taken to the supply house to get myself some tools. I noticed the different color handles for Klein diagonal cutters but not in lineman and I asked the guy the at the sales counter was there a difference in them and without hesitation he said "the red Handles are rated for copper wire ONLY..later I investigated myself online at the Klein website and in the descriptions for the tools I read and noticed all the diagonal pliers that had blue handles listed CUTS ACSR SCREWS AND NAILS ...not one with the red handles listed that in their despcription. Only copper or non-ferrous wire in a few . You should do the research as well because you're definitely going to notice ur knipex pliers lasting longer than the red handled Kleins. I'm positive I'm right ... I might do a video as well and show where it says what the are designed for on Klein's website on the video. It's obvious a lot of people out there are not cognizant of this. Because no one has commented to correct you on your mistake and obviously you aren't aware of this either. Suprising since all have are tool videos.
absolutely correct. i was thinking the same thing about comparing the red handle Kleins to the Knipex. the blue handle Journeyman 2000 series are the pliers that would be comparable to the Knipex. being said, i've used both, and the Knipex are more durable than the Journeyman. i'm not an electrician, but i've used both pliers installing appliances, cutting a ton of spring steel in the drier vent hose with both sets. the Kleins' are marred. the Knipex show very little wear. since then i've been doing HVAC installs. i use and love my Knipex everyday for the past 7-8 yrs, and will never go back to Klein for any type of pliers. plus Knipex's warranty is better.
Blue and red are the standard colours for the comfort grip on Knipex pliers. There's a red thin grip available too (looking like the Klein-grips), and the red/yellow grip VDE-version (insulated up to 1000 V) or a red only insulated version. I'm using the red/yellow grip of this one here:
www.knipex.de/index.php?id=1216&L=0&page=group_detail&parentID=1367&groupID=1478
For harder things I'm using the Knipex CoBolt, compact bolt cutter:
www.knipex.de/index.php?id=1216&L=0&page=group_detail&parentID=1367&groupID=1473
You are correct.
That klein side cutter is not meant for nails and screws. You should have the j2000 line for a real comparison. I hope those klein knives are ok..
Germany tools the best quality and biutiful very strong good vídeo thanks.😀😁😂 Knipex diagonal good but knipex cutters bether.
Abot the comment that you cannot open that wide, just because you can open the jaws that wide doesn’t mean it’s going to cut whatever you trying cut. Its kind of the saying, bit more than I can chew. I’ve been in that road before. Great vid though👍
I bought brand new Klein Tools Cutter and after 4 months lightly using them, they chipped on the top. I return tool for a warranty thru Feldman Brother in Paterson NJ. They didn't approve my return (no reason) and they throw away my old cutters. I can't recommend Klein Tools
Not really an apples vs apples shootout, don't really see how the twinforce 'won' since it's a different type of plier.
Comparing 6" Klein J2000 Side cutters vs 6" Knipex Comfort grip Side cutters would be a fair comparison IMHO.
Your right, it is not an apples to apples shootout. But the point of this was not to compare relatively similar tools. It was to see who had the best design, hands down in this scenario Knipex, won. But even if I compared the 6" models, it would have been Knipex as they forge the rivet into one side of handle thus offering less probable distortion over extend use, as it has two reference points - where Klein is the exact same tool they came to manufacture 37 years ago - no innovation.
Nick Sek I own and use both the Klein(8") and the Knipex (8") in the field, both are great but there are a couple points I think you may have missed. The Kleins have a slightly pointier nose when compared to the Knipex snub nose. The difference is small but noticeable when using them. The pointer nose makes detail cuts easier when conductors are bunched together and you only want to cut a single, or are trying to get something deep in the back of a busy box.
While you are correct about the forged rivet reducing the chance of distortion over time (and probably the reason Knipex don't need to be broken in). In a real world scenario you would almost never wear out/distort the joint in a noticeable amount before the cutting blades wore out. (or maybe blew a hole in the cutting blades ;) )
Which brings me to my last point, Steel. Both Knipex and Klein use high quality steel, but they use different grades/blends of steel which give slightly different results when pushed to the limit. Knipex tends to use a harder steel which is harder to mark but is more brittle, which means cutting blades sometimes chip rather then dent. While the Kliens steel (j2000) is not quite as hard marks up a little easier then the Knipex it also means that blade chips are very uncommon. easier to cut with a dented blade then a chipped blade.
To me the J2000 Kliens and Knipex are equal a lot of the differences come down to personal preferences.
Dale,
This is by far the best response I have ever received on youtube. Thanks for really putting in the time to illustrate your point.
I wish I could access the steel compositions and really analyze the hardness and brittleness. I need more of a lab then what I got now and more time my metallurgy is nothing more then a semester course.
The point is definitely something I missed out on and I appreciate that feedback, I will make sure in a future video that I mention that point.
Thanks again for the detail outlook, and agreed it is a personal preference - I like both manufactures and will continue to by from both - but Knipex and I just seem to go hand in hand.
Nick
Flared handles are great if they actually fit your hand otherwise the upturned ends are digging into your palm
Kleins are excellent tools, used them for 30 years. But now i discovered Knipex, thats a whole new pleasure that brings me back to my first job after school, i had cheap pliers and the company i worked for (Alcoa in Brazil) issued me a pair of Gedore combination pliers and German tools are another level. knipex till i hang the bag for good!
Klein's color handles change per model of there pliers such ass the lineman's with crimper are Yellow and the fiahtape puller is blue and there line man's that can cut aluminum cable have red handles
how come you compare aples with oranges? Not the same lenght, same handle, same technology.... If you wanted to compare the kleins, you should have choose the Knipex 7401200 ALMOST SAME SPECS, BUT THE KNIPEX WINS IN THE SPEC BATTLE
I got introduced to Knipex thru my Snap On dealer back in the 90's, and Ive still never found a better cutting pair of pliers.
Funny that, both good brands, don't know why they parted, any idea?
I think these are designed for harder material such as piano wire. A bit overkill for high gauge copper. Plus they are have no stripping notches, which is less than ideal. I'd skip these and go straight for their Cobalt Mini Bolt Cutters.
Should i get the twinforce with opening spring? I'm looking for a good plier for cutting a lot of wires. often hundreds a day. I already have a good knipex 1000v insulated instlalation pliers and cable shears. i only lack a decent side cutter.
Agree with your points. Knipex is always more expensive but you buy once, cry once. I don’t like all the laser etching on the Klein’s.
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Snap on 388acf side cutters will make cleaner cuts last longer full warranty around same price and they will cut anything
Im looking for a decent brand of flush cut side cutters not to cheap not too expensive any ideas? I dont see any on the knipex website.
Xcelite is really decent for the price, not over the top quality but descent - really cheap in price tag, Klein DC230-4C is mid way on both grounds, Knipex 78 61 125 SBA is going to knock it out of the park, but higher end price, overall for electronic work they will all function well. All those are available on Amazon as well
Thank you very much im going to look into all 3
All three are beautiful tools, the xcelite, was the first pair I owned and they are still on my bench, the knipex one day one I have some extra money lying around.
I have the red Klein ones . What does the V1 means on them?
Knipex is a better made tool!
You said that you can slip whit the knipex i use it as daily main tool and it never sliped out of my hand
Keep trying badtalking knipex ey!
You can make all the same cuts with the Klein.. just be a man about it..
Especially when they wear out xD
Knipex best pliers out there
Klein still gets my vote. Tried and true.
Can't go wrong with Klein, I just really dig the innovations coming from Knipex
Hi Jeff I'm the Knipex Representative in Ontario Canada. I appreciate your dedication to Klein, but all I ask is that when you buy your next pliers, I beg you to try one of our tools! I honestly think you will be more than satisfied! Please, just give us a try, and let me know what you think?
I do have several knipex items that I like quite a bit :)
...or they screw up the heat treat/tempering sometimes?
Kanipeks hehe
nothing beats the kline high leverage side cutters. all time favorite
Mike Reuling so common, every electrician I see has a pair lol.
Thanks for the video. What is the wrench on the right side of the camera frame?
Motohead934 Wera Joker Wrench (Buy them, they are amazing!)
Also thanks for the sub
Are you kidding me, I was surprised I wasn't. Your way to awesome not to follow!
SMH
Does Knipex offer side cutters and linemans that compare in strength with the Klein 2000 series? I'd like to have the option of cutting steel. I really love my Knipex needle noses but haven't pulled the trigger on their cutters for this reason.
Daniel Stein Not my place to say.
The 2000 "journeyman" series blows hard. Half the tools come with notched blades and they will never loosen up. Dipped OG handles are best.
Side cutters like the twin force can cut steel band and screws, and I have the knipex lineman pliers but haven't really cut anything aside from wires and armored sheathing which cuts like butter where Klein just crushes the Armour instead of cutting
EXpecially?
Otherwise good video.
How many millimeters is the bog knipex you Got there
If you're going to do videos on Knipex, don't you think you should learn to pronounce it properly?
Knipex is very properly pronounced in this video. It's a german company and the "K" isn't silent in german.
Lex Larkin If you're going to comment on anything, don't you think you should be 100% positive that YOU know what you're talking about? You've been pronouncing it wrong your whole life just like everyone else.
They are pronounced nipex!
I think that Knipex would beg to differ.
The "K" is silent man.....
This is the debate to the century. It is not a English word, it is German. In their advertising campaign videos (Alan Snipe's Channel)- I hear the "K".
Nick Sek
There's no debate. You think Alan Snipe is German? No. In GERMANY, which is where the tools are made, it's pronounced "kneepex." It's not "Kanippex" like you say or "Kaneepex." It's "Kneepex." End of "debate."
ni-pex
Yup, it just sounds silly, like people miss pronouncing La Jolla. I love my knipex tools, I've converted many electricians to the tools. The quality speaks volumes!
dtcjeep The k is not silent. Ka - knee - pex.
Bro. The "K" is silent.
Devils No it isn't (it's a German brand and in German the 'K' is not silent.
For 44 years I've been an electrician. Klein tools are the best hands down.
I have heard nothing but bad things about Klein tools the last couple years, I heard there manufacturing plant moved out of North America and quality has gone down substantially.
Knipex eats Klein for breakfast...ha ha ha
Klein makes some good tools and clearly are electricians favorites. I own both and prefer the Knipex. I find them to be better made and they have better ergonomics.
MR Thegreat yes they do. Breakfast lunch and dinner everyday all day.
Klein makes lineman's pliers that are better tailored to working with USA wiring installations than the Knipex pliers that are better tailored to how wiring installations Europe and the UK are done.
That is the only thing Klein meets or beats Knipex on.