Whatever that breath noise or scooting noise is that keeps happening once in a while, it makes me picture him with a live triceratops is with him for this lecture
i was just listening while doing other things and it startled me a few times before i realized it was the slide transition noise. and then i actually pictured the same thing 😂 except standing behind him snorting menacingly making sure he said all the right stuff lmao
If i caught what you said correctly about the jaws not able to move side to side the probability of having multiple stomachs like cows is slim. Cows spit up from their 1st stomach and rechew it/grind it (chewing cud is a side to side motion). Multiple animals today eat very low nutrient diets with one stomach... elephants, pandas, giraffes, and sloths, all with one stomach. Something to consider is they would eat bones as well as the occasional small animal as cow's horses deer tortoises, etc, do today. The growth rates ,to me, would indicate they required additional minerals. If you went back in time it wouldn't necessarily be just the predators which might eat you.
Triceratops have always been my favorite dinosaur, so I've loved reading books about them ever since I was a child. I didn't know there was more information about them till I found this, so I'm really grateful. Maintain your excellent work.
I love your “Evolution Of” videos. I know you don’t have too many of them but I could listen to you talk about the Evolution of Mosasaurus or Carcardontasaurus and the dinosaur debates, the relatives, teeth, the adventures you go on. It’s really good! Yeah these videos are long but they really do need to be long, it makes it better in my opinion because it does the topic Justice. Just letting you know I really like these videos.
Great question/idea by the young man about pack animals may only die one at a time for a range of reasons. It had not occurred to me before but I have seen many examples of a lone bovine skull in a field but never a group. Bovines are invariably pack animals. The reverse may also be true.... In tar pits, animals have been found in large numbers suggesting that they were social or pack animals but maybe some were only stuck in tar one at a time.
Oh also! If it’s worth anything, I love hearing talk of dinosaurs I’ve never heard of, like the different relatives throughout the entire evolution of Ceratopsian.
My most interesting thing about the triceratop is from what I understand they kind of fed on other animals when they were hungry or when their food supplies were slow I wonder if that's true or not maybe that explains why they had heartbeat and rows of teeth
Many herbivores such as horses have been known to eat small animals when they have the opportunity. I wouldn't doubt it. They definitely were able to physically.
New study shows that the Psitachosaurus was most likely not guarding or babysitting all the babies. It’s now understood that the larger specimen was still a juvenile and just happened to be caught in the same catastrophe. Its still an amazing fossil find which gleans a ton of information about their behavior, and a sad case of how brutal nature can be.
Question about the triceratops. One study seems to suggest that fully grown triceratops was a solitary animal that preferred to live on its own were as the other study states that triceratops was a highly social animal that lived in large herds. With all the new information ,in your professional opinion was triceratops a loner or herd animal.
I still lean towards solo trike tife style. I'm sure, like many solo animals today, there were animals that bonded and stuck together to survive better. Like brothers that never separated when they matured. Thanks for the comment!
Bro why did you quit TH-cam? Where am I going to get my dinosaur stories, facts, lectures and seeing how you're doing? We need you back and it's an honor to see your success in life.
Yo, that's an amazing comment. Thanks. I recently bought a house and need to set up the studio. That was definitely great motivation to get going again.
My life changed quite a lot when I had a child. I'm a lot more active on Facebook with daily posts about the fossils I find. facebook.com/HobartsObsessions
I've have not heard of this animal till now. Just as the name suggests, the jugals developed into horns. Really cool, but I do not know the answer to your question. Probably closer related to the styracaceous than the triceratops
One tiny titbit of critique: the asteroid impact was 66 million years ago. at 65 the non avian dinosaurs were already a extinct a million years before.
I LOVE CERATOPSIANS!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad you agree to love the Styracosaurus! It is my #1 FAVORITE dinosaur! Thank you for giving them some love!!!!!!!!!! Also, do you support evidence they might have sported quills on their tail and that they might've been omnivores?
I watched some of your lectures - very nice and interresting. At the Q&A i find some answers a bit short for a pro. When Triceratops has such a humongos nose system , he probably smells great!? And like 99% of herbivores if one sens is great the others lack. Instead his opponent carnivore T.rex seemed to have great smell and even greater eye sight. Or not? Then their teeth an growth. Sauropos have compared to ceratopsians simple teeth but the also had batteries of them growing new every 30 days...what is also impressive. Then they have ripped the plants of without chewing...no time for it^^ So they where probably hindgut fermenters. One key to their massive size. Ceratopsians with their massive teeth and jaw muscles ...probably foregut fermenters? For comparison for living animals ceratopsians and elephants have massive heads and chewing muscles. Elephants have one stomache but with several parts. Elephants are also hindgut fermenters. Massive amouts of low energy food per day. So Triceratops and especially sauropods (with their tiny heads) must have had some more effective digestion system... otherwise the day has not enough hours to eat enough.
Probably a really dumb comment / question here... So t-rex had tiny arms and I assume other dinosaurs did too... Is it possible they were selected that way over time because their prey had nasty powerful beaks that could literally dismember them?
Very unlikely. Most likely smaller arms were initially selected for, for issues of balance -- heads get bigger, arms get smaller, or rather, smaller arms enable a bigger head. A bigger head was more useful than those arms, for a biped like _T. rex_ that needed crushing power. And then at some point the arms are pretty useless, and so it's possible for _even smaller_ arms to not be selected _against,_ and so they could get even smaller. Had the asteroid not struck, perhaps the arms would have ended up like the vestigial limb nubs on a boa constrictor. It's also _possible_ that those tiny arms continued to have some sort of function -- who knows, they might have flapped them like crazy to impress mates. Maybe the arms were even brightly colored.
@@cacogenicist the arms on trex are extremely thick-boned, robust, and muscular, so it probably had a purpose for them. I imagine that tiny manipulating clawed nubs on the torso would've been useful during mating and whilst struggling with prey, sort of as a means to increase friction.
Lol. I literally obsessed my way there. And thanks! I have a major in TH-cam, and a minor in Google and Bing. Lol. Anyone can do what I have done to gain the knowledge I have. Most importantly, I'm still learning and have a lot to learn.
@@hobart0011 thanks for uploading these. I learned a ton from your trex video, now I'm learning about triceratops. I love these long form lectures. My favorite thing about dinosaurs is that the birds are not ornithischians. Go figure lol.
No, he is not an actual palaeontologist. He made several elementary mistakes in this presentation, such as getting Pachycephalosaurus and Dracorex confused and claiming that it was thought that Pachycephalosaurus was the juvenile form of Dracorex-it was the other way around with Stygimoloch being a middle growth stage-and claiming that this has been disproven when it has not. He needs to study the ontology and the malleability of Marginocephalia headgear. Likewise, he claims that we have Torosaurus juveniles, which to my knowledge, we do not. Sorry for how "spicy" this initially sounded.
Thanks. I did notice the miss spelling for meter, but had not realized the temp problem. I am going to need to watch this again and look up what the true information is. Thanks for the feedback. It helps me improve for future content
Do we in fact have well-sexed examples of Triceratops and Ceratosaurus, or Dracorex and Pachycephalosaurus? Is there a non-zero possibility that the two pairs of examples are in fact examples of sexual dimorphism? For example, has medullary tissue ever been inferred in these animals? Other evidence of sex?
I think you got that backwards. Dracorex was thought to be a juvenile Pachycephalosaurus, and still is thought to be, specifically because we don't find juvenile Pachys. Such a glaring inaccuracy really undermines your presentation. Stygimoiloch, the next stage up from Dracorex, with more of a dome and receded spikes, then you have Pachycephalosaurus with a dome and very small spikes. Also, no, no juvenile Torosaurus have been found. That would have been a huge announcement. And yeah, I checked. I'm not saying that Triceratops and Torosaurus are synonymous, but if they are not, it wasn't confirmed by the presence of juveniles. Where are you getting this?
I don't understand how volcanoes cause a "greenhouse effect". They release a lot of sulphuous gases, the haze from which reduces solar insolation. It is at least neutral in terms of temperature. This is just the paradigm of the month I guess. A "theory of everything" for climate. Other facts are probably more important.
We actually cant really tell the difference of sex in all mammals. Look up studies of Neanderthals when found in numbers very very rarely can we tell their sex
Who wrote "About 2 meeters long" in the text concerning Psittacosaurus? If this is about academic accuracy, you will have to do better than that. It should be "2 meters".
Lovely lecture. But I have to tell you I disagree eith calling birds dinosaurs. If that is true, then why not call us Therapsids? You have to draw the line somewhere and the modern bird is so far structurally removed from dinosaurs that I can't accept calling them the same.
Already at the 13 minute time, and this is an extremely well done presentation and lecture. Some notes: Meters and pounds, eh? Stick with metric and everyone will be better off, eh? Entogeny - not with that hard "g" but rather the sound of "j". Just look it up, it's there in Google translate or in any other dictionary, a major word here. But it's going to be outstanding! Subscribed for more!
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I appreciate the free education! Thank you very much.
Agreed
Whatever that breath noise or scooting noise is that keeps happening once in a while, it makes me picture him with a live triceratops is with him for this lecture
lol. yeah. there were a lot of people joining online. we couldn't hear that at the time. My tech buy noticed it half way through.
@@hobart0011 I used to be a tech guy many years ago so there’s probably not that many people more than me who noticed
i was just listening while doing other things and it startled me a few times before i realized it was the slide transition noise. and then i actually pictured the same thing 😂 except standing behind him snorting menacingly making sure he said all the right stuff lmao
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Very eloquently put together!
Thank you for your excellent report.
very cool just what I was looking for....
If i caught what you said correctly about the jaws not able to move side to side the probability of having multiple stomachs like cows is slim.
Cows spit up from their 1st stomach and rechew it/grind it (chewing cud is a side to side motion).
Multiple animals today eat very low nutrient diets with one stomach... elephants, pandas, giraffes, and sloths, all with one stomach.
Something to consider is they would eat bones as well as the occasional small animal as cow's horses deer tortoises, etc, do today. The growth rates ,to me, would indicate they required additional minerals. If you went back in time it wouldn't necessarily be just the predators which might eat you.
Very informative and I agree. Thanks for sharing
Triceratops have always been my favorite dinosaur, so I've loved reading books about them ever since I was a child. I didn't know there was more information about them till I found this, so I'm really grateful. Maintain your excellent work.
I love your “Evolution Of” videos. I know you don’t have too many of them but I could listen to you talk about the Evolution of Mosasaurus or Carcardontasaurus and the dinosaur debates, the relatives, teeth, the adventures you go on.
It’s really good! Yeah these videos are long but they really do need to be long, it makes it better in my opinion because it does the topic Justice.
Just letting you know I really like these videos.
Loved it, hope you make some more dino deep dives.
Great question/idea by the young man about pack animals may only die one at a time for a range of reasons.
It had not occurred to me before but I have seen many examples of a lone bovine skull in a field but never a group. Bovines are invariably pack animals. The reverse may also be true....
In tar pits, animals have been found in large numbers suggesting that they were social or pack animals but maybe some were only stuck in tar one at a time.
You my friend are a wonderful communicator.....Everyone loves 🦕 dinosaurs..keep it up
Thanks so much! Will do
Now i have to go learn things about ducks im betting i didnt wanna know!😂
Haha. Fer sher
Oh also! If it’s worth anything, I love hearing talk of dinosaurs I’ve never heard of, like the different relatives throughout the entire evolution of Ceratopsian.
I find it amazing that they were around for 140 million years, to have such a stable atmosphere for that long Earth was truely a paradise then
I know this is an old comment, but it really does feel like the Earth on the Holocene is not as hospitable for life as it was in the Mesozoic.
My most interesting thing about the triceratop is from what I understand they kind of fed on other animals when they were hungry or when their food supplies were slow I wonder if that's true or not maybe that explains why they had heartbeat and rows of teeth
Many herbivores such as horses have been known to eat small animals when they have the opportunity. I wouldn't doubt it. They definitely were able to physically.
@@hobart0011 wow new things that I learned in thank you so much
New study shows that the Psitachosaurus was most likely not guarding or babysitting all the babies. It’s now understood that the larger specimen was still a juvenile and just happened to be caught in the same catastrophe.
Its still an amazing fossil find which gleans a ton of information about their behavior, and a sad case of how brutal nature can be.
Question about the triceratops. One study seems to suggest that fully grown triceratops was a solitary animal that preferred to live on its own were as the other study states that triceratops was a highly social animal that lived in large herds. With all the new information ,in your professional opinion was triceratops a loner or herd animal.
I still lean towards solo trike tife style. I'm sure, like many solo animals today, there were animals that bonded and stuck together to survive better. Like brothers that never separated when they matured.
Thanks for the comment!
I LOVE TRICERATOPS🥰🥰🥰🤩🥰🥰🥰
This is brilliant!
Bro why did you quit TH-cam? Where am I going to get my dinosaur stories, facts, lectures and seeing how you're doing?
We need you back and it's an honor to see your success in life.
Yo, that's an amazing comment. Thanks. I recently bought a house and need to set up the studio. That was definitely great motivation to get going again.
@@hobart0011 My pleasure, we miss you so much and I still think fondly of all your amazing work.
Why did you stop making vids? Enjoyed this
My life changed quite a lot when I had a child. I'm a lot more active on Facebook with daily posts about the fossils I find.
facebook.com/HobartsObsessions
@Hobart's Obsessions congratulations on the child
Where is jugaloceratops in the ceratopsians family chart which you have shown
I've have not heard of this animal till now. Just as the name suggests, the jugals developed into horns. Really cool, but I do not know the answer to your question.
Probably closer related to the styracaceous than the triceratops
I suggest that the explosion of bird life at the same time as flowering plants and insects is because birds eat insects.
One tiny titbit of critique: the asteroid impact was 66 million years ago. at 65 the non avian dinosaurs were already a extinct a million years before.
I do agree with this assessment
I LOVE CERATOPSIANS!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad you agree to love the Styracosaurus! It is my #1 FAVORITE dinosaur! Thank you for giving them some love!!!!!!!!!!
Also, do you support evidence they might have sported quills on their tail and that they might've been omnivores?
Idk about the quills, but I do believe they were omnivores. Like some birds living today
I watched some of your lectures - very nice and interresting.
At the Q&A i find some answers a bit short for a pro.
When Triceratops has such a humongos nose system , he probably smells great!?
And like 99% of herbivores if one sens is great the others lack.
Instead his opponent carnivore T.rex seemed to have great smell and even greater eye sight.
Or not?
Then their teeth an growth.
Sauropos have compared to ceratopsians simple teeth but the also had batteries of them growing new every 30 days...what is also impressive.
Then they have ripped the plants of without chewing...no time for it^^
So they where probably hindgut fermenters.
One key to their massive size.
Ceratopsians with their massive teeth and jaw muscles ...probably foregut fermenters?
For comparison for living animals ceratopsians and elephants have massive heads and chewing muscles.
Elephants have one stomache but with several parts.
Elephants are also hindgut fermenters.
Massive amouts of low energy food per day.
So Triceratops and especially sauropods (with their tiny heads) must have had some more effective digestion system... otherwise the day has not enough hours to eat enough.
I think this is great information. Thanks
Probably a really dumb comment / question here... So t-rex had tiny arms and I assume other dinosaurs did too... Is it possible they were selected that way over time because their prey had nasty powerful beaks that could literally dismember them?
This would make a lot of sense. Sue the rex had an arm ripped off and healed. Could be because of each other ripping them off.
Great comment thanks
Very unlikely. Most likely smaller arms were initially selected for, for issues of balance -- heads get bigger, arms get smaller, or rather, smaller arms enable a bigger head. A bigger head was more useful than those arms, for a biped like _T. rex_ that needed crushing power. And then at some point the arms are pretty useless, and so it's possible for _even smaller_ arms to not be selected _against,_ and so they could get even smaller. Had the asteroid not struck, perhaps the arms would have ended up like the vestigial limb nubs on a boa constrictor.
It's also _possible_ that those tiny arms continued to have some sort of function -- who knows, they might have flapped them like crazy to impress mates. Maybe the arms were even brightly colored.
@@cacogenicist the arms on trex are extremely thick-boned, robust, and muscular, so it probably had a purpose for them. I imagine that tiny manipulating clawed nubs on the torso would've been useful during mating and whilst struggling with prey, sort of as a means to increase friction.
Are you an actual paleontologist or did you just obsess your way into being an expert? If it is the latter, then you are the absolute coolest!
Lol. I literally obsessed my way there. And thanks!
I have a major in TH-cam, and a minor in Google and Bing. Lol. Anyone can do what I have done to gain the knowledge I have. Most importantly, I'm still learning and have a lot to learn.
@@hobart0011 thanks for uploading these. I learned a ton from your trex video, now I'm learning about triceratops. I love these long form lectures. My favorite thing about dinosaurs is that the birds are not ornithischians. Go figure lol.
No, he is not an actual palaeontologist. He made several elementary mistakes in this presentation, such as getting Pachycephalosaurus and Dracorex confused and claiming that it was thought that Pachycephalosaurus was the juvenile form of Dracorex-it was the other way around with Stygimoloch being a middle growth stage-and claiming that this has been disproven when it has not. He needs to study the ontology and the malleability of Marginocephalia headgear.
Likewise, he claims that we have Torosaurus juveniles, which to my knowledge, we do not.
Sorry for how "spicy" this initially sounded.
34:00 I always thought plankton was turned into oil and plantlife turned into coal.
This does have a lot of truth to it. I'm sure this fits most situations
Dracorex was a juvenile pachycephalosaurus
I added this info just before I gave the presentation. It was flawed.
great presentation; of note though, the asteroid hit 66 million years ago, not 65....
I like this very much. But come on, how many times can you misspell ‘meter’. And 17c is not 67f and 67f is not 17c, which one is it?
Thanks. I did notice the miss spelling for meter, but had not realized the temp problem. I am going to need to watch this again and look up what the true information is.
Thanks for the feedback. It helps me improve for future content
Do you think it’s possible that a triceratops bite can destroy a t Rex’s leg or something
I am quite sure it could have, but hard to tell.
@@hobart0011 probably maybe it couldn't
Do we in fact have well-sexed examples of Triceratops and Ceratosaurus, or Dracorex and Pachycephalosaurus? Is there a non-zero possibility that the two pairs of examples are in fact examples of sexual dimorphism? For example, has medullary tissue ever been inferred in these animals? Other evidence of sex?
I think this was a debate at some point. Unsure what the end thought was on that
Zuni was early Jurassic?
I think you got that backwards. Dracorex was thought to be a juvenile Pachycephalosaurus, and still is thought to be, specifically because we don't find juvenile Pachys. Such a glaring inaccuracy really undermines your presentation. Stygimoiloch, the next stage up from Dracorex, with more of a dome and receded spikes, then you have Pachycephalosaurus with a dome and very small spikes.
Also, no, no juvenile Torosaurus have been found. That would have been a huge announcement. And yeah, I checked. I'm not saying that Triceratops and Torosaurus are synonymous, but if they are not, it wasn't confirmed by the presence of juveniles.
Where are you getting this?
I don't understand how volcanoes cause a "greenhouse effect". They release a lot of sulphuous gases, the haze from which reduces solar insolation. It is at least neutral in terms of temperature. This is just the paradigm of the month I guess. A "theory of everything" for climate. Other facts are probably more important.
18k views with 998 subscribers, 99 percent of viewers are selfish
80k views on the channel lol
only 45lb? shouldn't it be 450lb? seems impossible for a 2m long dinosaur.
I took a look at more sources, and I'm seeing estimates as large as 200lbs. Good correction. Thanks
Adaptation.
Not the same as one species transforming, or "evolving" into, another species of animal.
Still looking for that video.
adaptation over many generations through means of survival of the fittest. Thats what evolution is
I think Torosaurus is a male and Triceratops is a female and what we’re seeing is sexual dimorphism
I'm gonna assume you're not a big fan of Jack Horner and his theories..
too many ads ffs
Tricep Ceratops.
Lol
I am suddenly frozen in place by not caring very much
I appreciate the comment none the less. Helps out
We actually cant really tell the difference of sex in all mammals. Look up studies of Neanderthals when found in numbers very very rarely can we tell their sex
if we have their pelvic bone, we can tell. woman have space available for child birth that men do not.
Who wrote "About 2 meeters long" in the text concerning Psittacosaurus? If this is about academic accuracy, you will have to do better than that. It should be "2 meters".
I appreciate all corrections. This and many other errors were fixed in future lectures
I sped it up to 2x speed and he sounds even more like Ben Shapiro 😂😂😂😂
Lmao. I listen to everything on 1.5 except for Ben. That's just too fast
Lovely lecture. But I have to tell you I disagree eith calling birds dinosaurs. If that is true, then why not call us Therapsids? You have to draw the line somewhere and the modern bird is so far structurally removed from dinosaurs that I can't accept calling them the same.
I'm not buying what you're selling. So much projecting from a few bones. Lots of fakery in this field.
Lol. Billions of bones
@@hobart0011 sure
Already at the 13 minute time, and this is an extremely well done presentation and lecture.
Some notes:
Meters and pounds, eh? Stick with metric and everyone will be better off, eh?
Entogeny - not with that hard "g" but rather the sound of "j".
Just look it up, it's there in Google translate or in any other dictionary, a major word here.
But it's going to be outstanding!
Subscribed for more!
Thanks for the feedback! Some new notes for sure.