San Francisco in a Bonanza - Part I: Arrival
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- A flight from McClellan Field in Sacramento, California, to San Francisco International (SFO) in June of 2015.
Join me in my Bonanza with cockpit video, full air traffic control communications, and animated maps to follow along.
Filed route: KMCC SAC.RISTI4 KSFO, at 9,000 feet MSL.
The combination of sometimes different ATC procedures (compared with my home in the Midwest), fast-speaking controllers and the busy airspace made this flight a bit more challenging than some of my previous adventures. If I had to do it again, I'm sure I would have done a few things a bit differently. License to learn!
Martín, I did my IFR cross country to SFO back in the 80's in IMC. Had a hold and came down like you fast. I was in a 182. Almost got ran over by a 737 on the high speed runway because ground forgot we were there. Such an experience to go there on a small plane. Your fights are so great to watch. Your a blessed man to be able to make these trips in such a nice plane. Thank you for your videos.
I enjoyed the whole roll, thank you!
Glad you liked it - it was a fun flight!
- Martin
Martin, I learned to fly in the north bay (Napa) back in the 80's and your video brings back some great memories. Thanks so much for sharing.....
Glad to hear I could bring back some nice memories!
- Martin
Once again, thank you for the extra work you put into these videos. They would be enjoyable without the narration, radio transcription, sectionals, etc, but the post production really does take these to the next level of fun and informative.
Paul Macejewski I
Always looking forward to sharing your new adventures....and appreciate when controllers recognize your professionalism in the air.
Nice job. They threw a lot at you! Thanks for the videos, always fun to watch!
Just did the bay tour for my 10 hour mark. This is amazing, also something I'd like to do once in my life to say I've done it. Normally I fly out of KPAO.
Bravo Martin !I learned to fly at San Carlos and fly a Mooney out of Hayward. I'm wearing a giant smile right now. Even though this isn't on my particular bucket list, I thank you Sir, for sharing this with us.
Great Flight. Love your videos.
Hello Martin from Sydney, Australia
Once more another great video with a reward: this being the assembly of private GA planes.
Thank you so much for sharing educational, and entertainment channel.
Happy Easter
Thank you, John. Happy Easter to you, too!
- Martin
Very interesting video; that is a good "bucket list" destination airport. Oakland North Field is a very convenient GA airport if your destination is San Francisco; connections via shuttle and BART are very easily managed. The GA side of KOAK also has much shorter taxi distance from the runways to the FBO ramp...
David, thanks for your comments about Oakland - they are consistent with other reports I've gotten, and this may be a good place to land next time I visit San Francisco, now that that bucket list item is checked.
Very enjoyable video and nice job of flying the arrival. Look forward to more. Thanks!
Wow. The Gold standard for approach videos. Thank you! :D
One more thing, that landing fee is crazy.
Great video sir! Loved every minute of it.
Awesome Martin, can't wait for part 2 !
I'm new to your videos and I really enjoy them. Don't change a thing! Great job!
Thanks, Gary!
that's great Martin !, on my bucket list too, well done.
Endlich wieder Bonanza Videos! Danke, Grüße und Happy Landings.
Hey Martin, thanks for that video! What a pity your daughter slept through it, but we got to live with this I guess. Bucket list item...checked, and had fun doing it!
Thank you - ye, she slept on the way in and - more importantly - again on the way out later in the week when I flew over downtown San Francisco (Bay Tour). But I really enjoyed both flights - and yes, it was a bucket list item for me.
- Martin
I love these videos keep it up!
+Braeden Schmidt Thanks, Braeden. I can only do a couple of these each year, only picking the most interesting flights and destination airports. But I'll keep them coming.
Ah my home area! You did pick the cheapest place for fuel around at McLellan. Local knowledge, McLellan was a big airforce maintenance and F111 base, while Mather on other side of town was a SAC B52 base. They trained navigators out there. North of sac is Beal where the remaining U2s fly out of.
I am currently training at KEDU and university of Davis.
Great videos of SFO and the DFW videos! Thanks.
That explains the size of McLellan - it's huge!
Great flight job my friend 👍
Thank you, Gregory!
- Martin
Nice airplane. From the cabin view, it looks like a Model 36. I also like the 33's and 35's.
I've flown a few V-tails, Debonaires, E-33's, as well as an A-36, and loved every darned one of them!
I can't think of a better single-engine aircraft to tour the country in, and if you want to take the whole brood along with some toys and other goodies, the 36 fills the bill quite nicely!
+maverickdallas100 Yes, it's an A36, so it has three rows of seats. On this trip, it was just my daughter and I so we were relatively light weight which helped with some of the higher elevations in the western US.
Another great video Martin. Thank you for taking the time to share your flights. I am asking this question 3 years after the video posted so you may not recall, but do you know what the controller meant when he told you “no delay through the 1s” as you were on short final?
Hi Scott. What he meant by "no delays through the 1s" is "cross runways 1R and 1L without delay", probably because he had departing traffic ready to go on those crossing runways.
I actually didn't do that; my ground roll after landing had me short of the 1s by some margin, which made it even easier.
Regards, Martin
@@martinpauly Excellent. Thank you!
@@martinpauly One other question if you don't mind. Why do you think ATC spelled out the waypoints on departure and arrival rather than assign you the SID and STAR? I got the same thing coming back into NY last month - a long string of VOR's and waypoints that were the same as a published arrival. Any idea if they avoid giving us "small guys" the procedures, thinking it might be more accurate if they spell them out? Seems counter-intuitive.
@@ScottBrunjes Hi Scott, to this day that is a mystery to me. Giving me the arrival procedure (STAR) would have been easier for them, and for me as well.
- Martin
Great trip- my second time to watch! Did you have oxygen. For the 14000 part to Albuquerque?
Chet Hight
ok..that took some balls...what were your thoughts on the wake turbulence since the tower wanted you to land long. I would have wanted to land short to avoid it.
Actually, a steep approach and a long landing is exactly what you want to do when you suspect wake turbulence, as long as you are landing into a headwind (or a crosswind that includes a headwind component). That way, the wind will blow the wake from the preceding aircraft towards you, but it'll pass underneath you. By the time you touch down, there is nothing to worry about.
Same situation with a tailwind - that's a different story, because the wind may blow the wake into your path, whether you are high or low.
Another consideration is potential wake turbulence from aircraft departing the intersecting runway(s). "Land long" is an interesting clearance, especially without a restriction (short of 1R). One could land past the intersecting runways and still have 5000' + to land on. Now that GA is on the north side that makes a nice transition from a "keep your speed up" approach, to touchdown. Nice having a high gear extension speed! You did a great job getting in, and getting squared away on the ground....
Great video, very interesting. Did you miss that the controller cleared you for the 'Quiet Bridge Visual' approach'? That's where the 095 radial came from. It's an interesting chart.
+Jim Howard (JimNtexas) Good observation, Jim. Yes, I did miss the "quiet bridge" part of the visual approach he told me to expect (at 16:10 into the video). The actual approach clearance (at 23:33) simply says "cleared visual approach 28R" (no "quiet bridge"), but I guess I was already on the SFO 095 radial at that time.
I've only ever seen these elaborate visual approaches on large airports, for example the I-55 visual approach to runway 13C in Chicago Midway (which I believe no longer exists). They are probably great for pilots that fly in the area all the time; they are much harder for a pilot like me who was flying in NORCAL airspace for the very first time.
Always wanted to take my S35 into SFO but man is it expensive! Maybe Signature put out a coupon in one of those packs where you can get two pizzas for the price of one.
That would be nice. Two days parking for the price of one, I'd go for that.
Great video, SFO is expensive, but well worth the experience. The SAC-157 -> ECA-215 routing is pretty common from the Sacramento area to several airports in the bay - not sure why they don't just give SAC MOVDD CEDES to people who file /G.
Nice work Martin! Your editing is superb, and I really appreciate the time you took to add in the overlays, sectionals, and text for the radio calls. You can see a few of mine at my youtube channel "Columbia 350 Flying Videos" if interested.
Great video, all the way around! I’m based out of the Sacramento area and have a V35B. I’m considering a flight to Idaho. Do you recall what your flight plan was from Idaho to Mather?
Steve, I believe it was pretty much direct. For sure it was under VFR.
I show a tiny little bit here: th-cam.com/video/AT3_tj2R3AQ/w-d-xo.html
- Martin
Got it thanks
First off, yeah that's a weird clearance. What ground speeds were you getting, and what is ASSC System?
+Brian K Rich MD Brian, I don't remember what the ground speed was on this flight.
ASSC stands for "Airport Surface Surveillance Capability". It allows ATC to monitor surface movement of aircraft while taxiing, as long as the transponder is on.
ulw.pagezone.com/ULWSiteResources/natcamembers/Resources/file/safetyNtech/ASSC%20Briefing.pdf
WOW...$180. landing fee for GA aircraft, is that standard at all major airports, is there a leaving fee as well or included in the landing charge? I wonder what the heavies commercial and private aircraft are charged! And the parking $$ does not seem sooo... bad it would cost that if not more to park a vehicle in town for a 8 hr. period.
Yes, the landing fee here was quite something. The only worse place I've been to in the US was Boston Logan - it wasn't a single line item on the invoice; instead they had six line items adding up to $268 for my one-hour stay there - no fuel.
- Martin
great landing...almost didn't notice touchdown. BTW...I hate when ATC tells me to keep up my airspeed. Yes I know it's for spacing but when I'm landing I want to fly at my own approach speed. Great videos...when I can't fly I watch your videos to tide me over for awhile :)
Thanks, videom. The high airspeed on approach doesn't bother me too much; with the gear (and later flaps) down the Bonanza is easy to slow down. And the runway is long! :-)
Martin,
Another great video. Why would a controller ask an IFR controlled aircraft to maintain visual separation from another IFR controlled aircraft. Sounds contradictory to me! And then it happened again with the B757 you were to follow. Perhaps my ATC knowledge is a little rusty - after all I was just a PATCO controller.
+Tim Robinson Tim, my understanding is that by saying "maintain visual separation", the separation responsibility shifts from the controller to the pilot. Here is a useful discussion I found:
www.airlinepilotforums.com/airline-pilot-knowledge-base/57563-visual-separation-what-am-i-required-do.html
I am not sure this was strictly necessary on my flight - we were at different altitudes. Maybe it's just one less thing for the controller to worry about.
Any reason why you didn't make a CTAF call after your IFR release? Maybe it was just edited out.
Hi Matt. Yes, you are right, a CTAF call is still necessary, and it was simply cut out in the editing process.
Martin Pauly I flew into Cedar Rapids in February. The weather was so bad that even Delta couldn't get in. Spent 10 hours in Minneapolis.
Hey Matt, we just got past an absolutely miserable winter, with temperatures consistently far below the average lows (as if those weren't low enough). We had snowfalls through the middle of April, very unusual. Fortunately it has warmed up by now, and the weather lately has been much nicer.
where you took off to go to San Francisco its a big airport with out a tower? If you come out to SFO again look me up I am a CFI I at reid hillview
Hi Don, yes, that's what it was - the airport is public-use today, but used to be McClellan Air Force Base. They do not have a control tower.
I'd love to come back to the west coast and bay area in the Bonanza. Not sure when I'll be able to do it, though - a trip like that really doesn't seem worthwhile unless I have at least a couple of weeks to play with, given that my starting point is Iowa.
Did you tip the baggage carriers?
You know what - I don't remember. Usually I do tip the line staff if they come out to help, fuel, etc. - I don't recall if I did in San Francisco.
Do you fly an A36 Bonanza?
Yes, it's an A36.
Thanks, 3 year old video but very good. Landing fee tolerable just for the experience but $90 for each 8 hours to park,ouch!!!
Thanks, Robert. Yes, some of these fees add up quickly at large airports; it is important to understand what they charge before going there, or it can be an unpleasant surprise.
Regards, Martin