I've been recording stuff at home for like 8 years, and I never thought I was complicating my workflow so much by not setting my levels correctly. Now I'm testing this and everything is working right off the bat. Great stuff.
00:42 that meter in the DAW... You need to know it if it"s an INPUT meter, an OUTPUT meter, etc... IIRR by default in Reaper it is a track output meter. I have a custom button to have it switched to input meter by default.
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. That's the whole point of our plugin. Meters can be pretty confusing, and some people might not even know what exactly they're measuring, especially when they're just starting out, while Gainstage just gives you a clear indication every time.
Nooo, guys. You're making a fundamental mistake here. You should not turn down the input gain on the interface. You should turn down the gain in software. You want to run the ADC as hot as possible without clipping to maximise your captured bit depth and improve your signal to noise ratio. I made a 12 minute long video about this last week. Apparently not just beginners fail to understand this :( Also, how is this plugin supposed to know what input level the subsequent plugin is expecting? Different manufacturers all use different reference levels. I don't see anything in your gain staging plugin that addresses that.
I watched your video when you uploaded it and it definitely changed my tone for the better. Prior to that my input gain on my interface was turned right down as I was using that infamous spreadsheet to adjust my plugins to compensate.
As far as I can tell, this gainstage plugin is actually allowing you to set your preamp gain to a safe spot, where it's neither too loud to cause clipping and distortion, nor too quiet to allow the preamp noise to creep in. It's not suggesting that you should always keep your preamp gain around or at zero, like some people on the Internet have been claiming lately. Seems like it doesn't contradict your video, which is great btw. Cheers!
Your video helped me ton dude (Ihave serious noise issues here xd). While I get the plugin they made, doesnt turning your input in the software basically do the same (and less noise) just like you did in your vid?
You're absolutely right, however it's also safe to assume that, from the recording engineer perspective it's much easier to deal with (usually not that drastically) worse SNR compared to a situation when every DI track you get for reamping is all over the place gainwise. It's kinda win-win cause Hertz guys likely will get DIs with adequate level much often, for musicians who records DIs at home it's much easier to just use the plugin than to truly understand and apply small signal theory (most people aren't into tech stuff nowadays, sadly, and by truly I mean... uhm ask around why balanced connection results in hum cancelling and you'll see what I'm talking about - there will be but a few answers - because both hot and cold line in a balanced connection have the same impedance to ground...), last but not least - the plugin is very reasonable priced, so it should sell pretty well.
I love Hertz drums, but honestly he interface of this plugin just feels a bit ridiculous. Maybe add an option to to remove the animation from interface, that would be great
All your doing is introducing more noise by turning things down idk wat wrong with your amp but mine doesnt do that Its digital everything after the ad converters is adjustable with almost no added noise But before the ad converters you want the highest signal to noise ratio you can get
"But before the ad converters you want the highest signal to noise ratio you can get " Which seems to be what this plugin is doing... Telling you how to adjust your interface gain.
@djabthrash but sometimes (in this video) the plugin is telling them to turn it down even though the signal isnt clipping. This plugin is basically useless
@@Durkhead The only way to know the signal is clipping is to look at the interface meters or at the input meters, which we don't see or are not sure we're seeing. Also : if you chug and you're hitting peaks at -1dB on your interface, you're very close to clipping and you will likely clip at some point. So this plugin (if it aims at peaks around -6db or something) will tell you to turn down a bit, rightfully so. This plugin is very helpful for people who don't know how to gainstage at their audio interface level. It is useless for people who prefer to decide how to gainstage at their audio interface level by themselves.
@@Durkhead "but sometimes (in this video) the plugin is telling them to turn it down even though the signal isnt clipping." tell me where in the video exactly ?
this seems to make assumption that every plugin dev had the same gain targets? Additionally, with lower quality interfaces, you're running the risk of increasing noise in the signal to noise ratio when you "turn down the input" to match the plugin Sure increasing preamp gain is likely going to improve signal to noise performance (up to a point) but I can't see how this doesn't trade one problem for another with inexperienced self recording folks Surely a basic gain utility for turning signal down (or the one included in the plugin shown) would be a more elegant solution? Or if gain is too low, turning up interface / preamp gain until it sounds as expected
Been recording at home on inexpensive interfaces for about ten years, and never had the problem of too much noise in my recordings. However, I struggled a lot to make my plugins, especially ampsims, work as I expected them to work because my recording levels were inconsistent. Like to get a crisp clean tone from an amp that is literally advertised as crisp and clean-sounding. Been testing this Gainstage thing from the video for a while now, and it seems to be helping a lot. That's only my experience of course.
I've been recording stuff at home for like 8 years, and I never thought I was complicating my workflow so much by not setting my levels correctly. Now I'm testing this and everything is working right off the bat. Great stuff.
Love that Black Box in the background. Thanks for the video btw.
00:42 that meter in the DAW... You need to know it if it"s an INPUT meter, an OUTPUT meter, etc...
IIRR by default in Reaper it is a track output meter. I have a custom button to have it switched to input meter by default.
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. That's the whole point of our plugin. Meters can be pretty confusing, and some people might not even know what exactly they're measuring, especially when they're just starting out, while Gainstage just gives you a clear indication every time.
I learn something new each time I see both of u in the screen 👍🏻 thank u
Thank you for watching!
Loved this tip, thank you!!
Lovely stuff as ALWAYS team Hertz..
Could you Please specify a ball park range before sending a signal to an analog plugin please ? 🙏
Nooo, guys. You're making a fundamental mistake here. You should not turn down the input gain on the interface. You should turn down the gain in software. You want to run the ADC as hot as possible without clipping to maximise your captured bit depth and improve your signal to noise ratio. I made a 12 minute long video about this last week. Apparently not just beginners fail to understand this :(
Also, how is this plugin supposed to know what input level the subsequent plugin is expecting? Different manufacturers all use different reference levels. I don't see anything in your gain staging plugin that addresses that.
I watched your video when you uploaded it and it definitely changed my tone for the better. Prior to that my input gain on my interface was turned right down as I was using that infamous spreadsheet to adjust my plugins to compensate.
As far as I can tell, this gainstage plugin is actually allowing you to set your preamp gain to a safe spot, where it's neither too loud to cause clipping and distortion, nor too quiet to allow the preamp noise to creep in. It's not suggesting that you should always keep your preamp gain around or at zero, like some people on the Internet have been claiming lately. Seems like it doesn't contradict your video, which is great btw. Cheers!
Your video helped me ton dude (Ihave serious noise issues here xd). While I get the plugin they made, doesnt turning your input in the software basically do the same (and less noise) just like you did in your vid?
This!
You're absolutely right, however it's also safe to assume that, from the recording engineer perspective it's much easier to deal with (usually not that drastically) worse SNR compared to a situation when every DI track you get for reamping is all over the place gainwise. It's kinda win-win cause Hertz guys likely will get DIs with adequate level much often, for musicians who records DIs at home it's much easier to just use the plugin than to truly understand and apply small signal theory (most people aren't into tech stuff nowadays, sadly, and by truly I mean... uhm ask around why balanced connection results in hum cancelling and you'll see what I'm talking about - there will be but a few answers - because both hot and cold line in a balanced connection have the same impedance to ground...), last but not least - the plugin is very reasonable priced, so it should sell pretty well.
love it
hello there
great video
I love Hertz drums, but honestly he interface of this plugin just feels a bit ridiculous. Maybe add an option to to remove the animation from interface, that would be great
@@Normala-music Thank you for your feedback. We will definitely look into it.
Am missed this plugin
Any possible for get free?
Why don't you buy it ?
All your doing is introducing more noise by turning things down idk wat wrong with your amp but mine doesnt do that
Its digital everything after the ad converters is adjustable with almost no added noise
But before the ad converters you want the highest signal to noise ratio you can get
"But before the ad converters you want the highest signal to noise ratio you can get "
Which seems to be what this plugin is doing... Telling you how to adjust your interface gain.
@djabthrash but sometimes (in this video) the plugin is telling them to turn it down even though the signal isnt clipping.
This plugin is basically useless
@@Durkhead The only way to know the signal is clipping is to look at the interface meters or at the input meters, which we don't see or are not sure we're seeing.
Also : if you chug and you're hitting peaks at -1dB on your interface, you're very close to clipping and you will likely clip at some point. So this plugin (if it aims at peaks around -6db or something) will tell you to turn down a bit, rightfully so.
This plugin is very helpful for people who don't know how to gainstage at their audio interface level. It is useless for people who prefer to decide how to gainstage at their audio interface level by themselves.
@@Durkhead "but sometimes (in this video) the plugin is telling them to turn it down even though the signal isnt clipping."
tell me where in the video exactly ?
@@djabthrash3:22
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This seems so wrong but I guess it makes sense for beginners
Why does it seem wrong ?
this seems to make assumption that every plugin dev had the same gain targets?
Additionally, with lower quality interfaces, you're running the risk of increasing noise in the signal to noise ratio when you "turn down the input" to match the plugin
Sure increasing preamp gain is likely going to improve signal to noise performance (up to a point) but I can't see how this doesn't trade one problem for another with inexperienced self recording folks
Surely a basic gain utility for turning signal down (or the one included in the plugin shown) would be a more elegant solution?
Or if gain is too low, turning up interface / preamp gain until it sounds as expected
Been recording at home on inexpensive interfaces for about ten years, and never had the problem of too much noise in my recordings. However, I struggled a lot to make my plugins, especially ampsims, work as I expected them to work because my recording levels were inconsistent. Like to get a crisp clean tone from an amp that is literally advertised as crisp and clean-sounding. Been testing this Gainstage thing from the video for a while now, and it seems to be helping a lot. That's only my experience of course.
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