All the praise goes to Michael for not falling for the Scientology tactics, even in his most vulnerable and desparate state. Proves he's stronger and smarter than many people give him credit for.
@eatforhappiness6150 Think he looked into Scientology and according to their website took some classes. For his own reasons, he decided not to go further with Scientology.
@@musiclove5935 Michael did casually asked Lisa that ' Who will marry me now If? If I ask to marry you will you marry me?' How will Scientology know Michael's lawyers will advise him to marry? How will Scientology know that Michael will be turned down brutally by Brooke Shield? How will Scientology know that Michael will casually ask Lisa for marriage? Lisa was a phone friend to Michael. Michael had many phone friends. Have you heard Glenda tapes? Michael had long phone calls with them. How will Scientology set up everything. Scientology might influence Lisa, but they can't force Michael. Do you think Lisa would leave Danny, father of her two children, just for Scientology? I don't think this story works.
@@MJJUBS Interesting. Whatever really happened we can't know exactly. I do know that Scientology has a huge influence on their members. I can't say what Priscillas devotion was to the cult though. I wasn't there.
Lisa can never love MJ. It is all the cult game. How can you love a man that you cannot sleep with, but left him and see his ex husband. If there is love in the cult that got them marriage, then there will be no divoice. Sad, for both of them.
Lisa had said numerous times after Michael’s passing, that she loved him alot. That they got together every time she was single, and even discussed getting back together and getting remarried.
Her last interview with Oprah makes it clear that what they had was real. The regret, pain she expressed, stress, and anger she felt is not manufactured.
Michael nació en un seno familiar muy religioso. Sus padres, eran Testigos de Jehová, sobre todo, la mamá de Michael es una mujer muy religiosa. Michael, empezó a tener roces con los Testigos de Jehová desde la publicación o lanzamiento del sencillo Thriller, ahí todo cambió porque ellos (Testigos de J.) no estaban de acuerdo con la letra de la canción). Años después, MJ se separó de los T. de J. Michael, nunca dejó de creer en Dios, en un Ser Superior, era un hombre muy espiritual antes que ser religioso. Tal vez, no, seguramente por que su perspectiva de Dios, del Universo, del mundo, de las creencias, cambian cuando viajas por todo el mundo y estás en contacto con personas de diferentes culturas, religiones, creencias, costumbres, etc. Sabes que "Dios es parte de todas y todos. No importa si eres negro o blanco, si eres judío, católico o musulmán, si eres rico o pobre" " Todos Somos Uno" ❤
@@z0ee996He did not convert to Islam, that rumor started when he was in Bahrain and he was wearing a disguise that looked like a Muslim lady. He died a Christian, you can see him wear a coat with a huge cross on the back during the This is it rehearsals.
Michael was a deeply religious and spiritual person, but not a Scientologist, that's for sure. And in general, he and Lisa were a good couple, just too different.
Oh absolutely he was super Christian, always was, but that’s not the point. The point was that Scientology was trying to convert him using his vulnerability at the time.
@@unusuariomas7163 Yes, I understand... In 2003, when he was vulnerable again, the Nation of Islam was next to him... By the way, Michael made his position pretty clear when he was asked a question on Prime Time. I do not rule out that Scientologists interfered with Michael and Lisa's marriage, but to a greater extent I think that these two were too different in terms of worldview and spiritual priorities in general
I believe Scientology had everything to do with the marriage on Lisa’s part. But Michael, being as smart as he is, eventually would have nothing to do with Scientology, especially if they were to bring kids into it. There is no way he would allow that.
@@julianmiguel6508 Hey look, I know that both of them said they loved each other, but I can't shake the feeling that Lisa agreed to marry Michael because of Scientology and ended up falling in love with him. I don't know what do you think?
@@xabisokuza2518 there Is not other reason why they would get married,Michael did not marry her to show that he was a normal straight Man,however there are fans who think that Is very sad AND ugly to see what Envy can do to people AND others judging lisa AND saying that she married him for His fame AND fortune,it's disgusting to read all that baseless rubbish
It could’ve been arranged but I think she actually ended up falling for him. You can see her get defensive a bit when her interviewers would bash MJ thinking she would go along with it. Plus she never really bashed him after the fact. She was really hurt by his death so yea I think she actually fell in love with him…
Their marriage wasn’t organic at all. Michael had his people seek out and invite Lisa on a date with him. Buttttt I do believe she did fall for him, she spoke about the love she had for him for years and felt she was the only one who understood him
I definitely see this as a possibility. Michael was in a very vulnerable place and it’s hard to deny the convenient timing of the marriage regarding the accusations, but definitely two separate interests might’ve come together for this marriage. Scientology wanting to bring a vulnerable but very rich, famous and powerful celebrity into their church, and Michael being desperate to make some damage control for his public image, and maybe even some personal motivation as he wanted children. But in the end we won’t ever know, so we really lack enough information to conclude anything.
Incorrect Michael and lisa loved each other investigate well and don't assume Michael took the marriage as something sacred,with lisa they were lovers before and after the marriage
Lisa Marie gave an interview in 2015 with reporter Tony Ortega, that was released after Lisa Marie’s death, Lisa Marie said Scientology orchestrated her divorce from Michael too. Those trips Lisa Marie took with Danny and their kids were orchestrated by Scientology too, to cause friction in her marriage to Michael. Lisa Marie said she never wanted to divorce Michael and she was in-love with him. And that the lawyers from Scientology filed divorce papers on her behalf without her permission/consent. Scientology pushed to divorce Michael. It was similar to how Scientology orchestrated the Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman divorce. And Scientology was worried Michael was driving Lisa Marie away from Scientology like Scientology claimed Nicole was doing to Tom.
Gracias por tu comentario, acabo de enterarme de esta información. La Cienciología no me agrada, ahora menos. Cómo una religión o doctrina puede influir en la vida de las personas. En realidad, así son todas las religiones, sin embargo, no tienen el derecho de meterse en la vida, en las decisiones y la felicidad de alguien. Lamento, que Michael y Lisa no hayan sido felices como en realidad lo deseaban. Todos los "vampiros" siempre tratan de chuparle la sangre a la gente que está en la cúspide y vivir de ellos 😢 Saludos desde Puebla, México 🌻🌻🌻
You always create videos with interesting issues about MJ! All the other channels do some ordinary stuff, but you really deal with the person behind the success! Thank you once again for this controversial and incredibly interesting video 🪄
Measuring feelings “Take these handles in your hands and think of something that is troubling you, about something bad,” a Church of Scientology employee sets up electropsychometer. It is a streamlined device with a division screen and an arrow. The arrow of the device first rushes along the scale, then freezes exactly in the middle. “Now think about the same thing again,” she asks. I just as diligently think about the best that comes to mind. “You see, you thought about the bad, the device fixes it,” the employee triumphs. It is not possible to understand some regularity in the movement of the arrow. The E-meter, also known as an electropsychometer, began to be used by Scientology founder Ron Hubbard in the 1950s. Followers of his teachings believe that the device helps the priest (auditor) to determine which area of experience of the subject (preclear) to work with. Before the 1960s, Scientologists it was said that the device could treat certain diseases. but in 1963 the US Food and Drug Administration accused the church of fraud; hundreds of electropsychometers were seized during the search. Then the followers of Hubbard changed the description of the operation of the device: “The E-meter itself does nothing. This is an electronic device that measures the mental state and change in the state of a person. Auditing was done more accurately and faster. The E-meter is not intended or effective for diagnosing, treating, or preventing any kind of disease.” Scientists claim that this is an ordinary galvanometer. And in addition, it is known that when passing through certain stages, a person must contribute money to the church. In the history of the Church of Scientology, there are many cases where the inability to pay for the next step led people to bankruptcy or suicide. One such episode became the subject of an investigation in Time magazine in 1991: a former parishioner of the church jumped out of the window, clutching in his hand the last money that had not yet passed to the Scientologists.
I think MJ and Lisa Marie Presley were genuinely in love at one point. But, their views were worlds apart, and that soured their marriage. I wish it could have worked out. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop, and the princess of rock and roll. 🎉
The king of pop and lisa marie presley always be lovebirds forever and elvis presley is not the king of rock and roll fats Domino is the king of rock and roll
@@kaylynkorir6823 Elvis Is,he Is much better than fats domino AND any other,the black community speaks highly of Elvis even artists that mj admired speak highly about elvis
When Mj passed away there was a picture of Lisa Marie on his desk. Tha had a painting that looked exactly like her as well. Also look at Lisa's interviews. They loved each other. It's obvious
Ooooo, the teaaaaa! ☕️ I was so into this video! I really believe that all the relationships that we got to know about were revealed to us to be good publicity. I 100% understand that the allegations sent Michael and his team into peak survival mode. It’s crazy to consider the possibility that all of this was at play - them actually being into each other while simultaneously being together for the added benefits. Fascinating! ✨
Lisa Marie and Michael actually got together in November 1992, and started to date in May 1993 when she accompanied Michael to a Jimmy Cater charity thing in Atlanta in May 1993.
for one, his kids would have been mixed and they wouldn't look like paris or any of the children he had with debbie. Michael said blanket's mother was a person of color during that Martin Bashir interview... that's clearly false. Michael wanted white kids. The racism he experienced made him not want to put that forward.
@@julianmiguel6508 I don't know if it was obvious to you or not but I was making a joke. I watch the entire interview I know she's just upset about the question. Calm down
Interesting! I’ve never heard about this angle before, and trust I’ve watched a lot of MJ footage and documentaries haha. It does hold some possible credence, but as for Lisa Marie I think she probably still genuinely loved him. And probably Michael loved her in his “own way” (I think he had a great baseline love for everyone and was at the very least affectionate and sympathetic towards her and her life circumstances). I’m sure Scientology has some influence in the industry even when it’s not necessarily that people are part of the church, there’s probably a receding slope of influence just around each celebrity that is a member due to vicinity and power of name recognition. Been watching you for a few years now and I love love love this channel. You literally spoil a MJ fan, used to be so hard to research and find facts and footage like this b4 I found your channel, much appreciated. And you are always fair, which is even harder to find!
@@sorceress1986 Victims can become abusers and that happens all of the time! This is seen in those who become child abusers, children who watch their parent commit repeated domestic abuse against their other parent & then become domestic abusers as they get older as well. There are also many other examples. I understand she was born into it, but as an adult, you can't continue to continue to perpetuate deplorable behavior simply bc you were born into a cult. Lisa had the ability to use critical thinking once she matured and to at least try and research why that cult is so destructive. We have a responsibility as adults to break harmful cycles. It's like David Miscavige, who was also born into now he's committing & cosigning some of the most egregious crimes out there. Leah Remini was introduced to the cult of Scientology when she was VERY young but she recognized that nefarious things were happening and then realized she couldn't be part of something that was this dangerous and hurt so many people!
I wish I could have gone back in time to tell mike not to get involved with the presley girl she never seemed like a genuine person to me and no im not saying mike was a saint but she was to indecisive and gullible to even raise a genuine family
I guess eachone of the involved had own interests regarding this marriage, but despite of it al,l i stll believe they developed feelings for eachother. Anyway there's no love able to survive problematic individuals.
Was they legally married? In the country they allegedly was married in if you are getting a divorce you have to be single for 10 months before you can get married again in that country. They allegedly got married in 2 weeks after her divorce
The fact that he was in a vulnerable state is obvious by thr fact that he would marry her so suddenly. But joining scientology was clearly not on his list. Lisa seems highly controlled. She's a nepo baby, they hardly ever have their own lives in reality. While she absolutely seemed to be in love with him, who wouldn't be? Still doesn't mean she wasn't sent to recruit him.
Мне кажется, эта версия правдоподобна. Майкл искренне влюбился, а Лизу заставили. Да, она хотела бы его полюбить, помочь, но Майкл ее раздражал. Все ее откровения после - это влюбленность постфактум, потому что такой уникальной личности как Джексон в ее жизни больше не было
Is a lack of respect with Michael and with Lisa to say it was stunt! I don't believe it in no way. I usually like The Detail videos but i don't approve this one!
As always thank you. Can you cover the promo which contains O fortuna Carmina Burana. Was it just coincidence or was there a meaning for choosing that music?
It is true that the only reason why MJ married Lisa was because of the false allegations. If the false allegations would have never occurred he would have never married her, and would have kept saying "I'm married to my work". And Lisa did not try to get MJ into Scientology, she said so herself that she didn't in the Diane Sawyer interview. Besides, it was MJ who asked her to marry him, it wasn't Lisa asking MJ to marry her, so the Scientology had nothing to do with their marriage.
What a load of bullshit this whole video was. Michael Jackson was the one who pushed for the relationship with Lisa. He first called Priscilla when Lisa was only 16 years old, but Priscilla told him Lisa was too young for Michael to be asking after her. Then in the interview with Diane Sawyer, Michael said he tried contacting Lisa through a lawyer when Lisa was 18 because he thought "she was really cute". Once they actually met years later at a mutual friend's place and started talking, they fell in love with each other.
PR stunt with those two for sure, Michael was private about his relationships his real ones were kept private this one was not one of them it was public for a reason, and it was for a business deal that was the reason
Правда в том что она вышла за Майкла замуж чтобы завербовать его в свою секту ! Элвис Пресли был против этой секты и он бы не допустил их в свою жизнь вот и Майкл не допустил ! Каждый живет своим умом комуто кажется что это спекуляции а может при более подробном ознакомлении это не будет казаться спекуляциями зная что до самой смерти ЛМП ее муж первый который был прикреплен к ней сектантами как духовный учитель он не расстался с ней до самой ее смерти , их сын умер она умерла а он так называемый :учитель жив ... это ли не страшенно ? И зачем Мвйклу такое ? Майкл не был дураком и вовремя слинял !
As much as I do believe Lisa genuinely loved Micheal. Its really hard to comprehend his true intentions, considering the convenient timing of the marriage right after the allegations surfaced…
They were dating before the accusations they met in 1992 AND they got married in secret,the accusations are false there Is nothing wrong or weird about them getting married AND as i said they got married in secret AND after the divorce they where lovers trying to get back togheter hoy don't do that in a farce
Yes the head of sciencetology.first name mark scarvige.put it in Lisa's ear to divorce Michael. And she truly regretted her decision. She never got over Michael. Even though she married someone else. I believe she never stopped loving him ever
Please watch 9:39 and we all find dominate nature of Lisa over Michael I find no reasons of Lisa divorcing Danny Keough and running back to him when he was wife of Michael. I find no reason of her divorcing Michael and again getting intimate with him and getting attached to him thereafter. There was no point of promising Michael to go for children before marriage and breaking promises just after marriage. Michael repeatedly asked Lisa to keep his promise. Michael was very clear before marriage that after marriage they would first go for children. Michael proposed Lisa and settled their marriage when Lisa was already a wife to Danny Keough. If Lisa didn't like conditions why did she divorce and got ready with Michael? Actually Lisa was very whimsical and dominant which no husband tolerated except Danny Keough. Michael went to Debbie for children after Lisa divorced him. On January 1996, they got divorced. Please remember Prince was born in February 1997.
@@julianmiguel6508 It's not jealousy, it's feeling pity....any normal woman will feel pity on life history of Lisa. She got true love only from Michael Jackson. Rest all of her husband utilized her. Unfortunately she hurt Michael Jackson most. Why being jealous of such empty whimsical woman? It's sad that along with her life she spoiled Michael Jackson's life too....
I get a sense that almost all celebrity marriages are arranged, done mostly for publicity. Michael's team advised him he should be seen with a woman more after the damaging allegations that ruined his public image. He was never into women in a intimate way. Being exposed to strippers in the seedy nightclubs he and his brothers played in during the early years of the Jackson 5 damaged his attitude toward women and sex. While his brothers were inviting women into their hotel rooms Michael avoided that behavior because he believed sex was dirty and a sin. During his so-called marriage to Lisa he never had any sexual relations with her and it is possible he never had sex with a woman at any point in his life. The kids he made with Debbie were done with the assistance of a lab. He jokingly talked about looking at women while riding in the safety of his limo however that was done purely for the cameras.
Please come let us reason together. So if Michael and Lisa Marie never had sex, what then were they doing together for another 4 years after their divorce? They were together for another 4 years after their divorce, often seen together, at times sighted coming out of a hotel. So what do you think? It's hard to believe they never had sex. Michael's close friends said Michael liked women like every other guy. Michael had visible érectïons several times on stage. Look out for his erectile mishaps in his videos where he wore gold trousers. Michael Joseph Jackson loved and 'played' with women like any regular man.
the kids he had with debbie weren't his. They don't look mixed. Michael said blanket's mother was a person of color... no she wasn't. All Michael's kids had 2 white parents that's why they look european. But Michael raised them so he's the father ofc. Everything else I wholeheartedly agree with, I don't think Michael was interested in that. I do remember him saying "I do more than that" which I think it's what you referring to (a fan approached him asking for a hug)
Both Michael and Lisa Marie had sex before, during, and after their marriage. Both Michael and Lisa Marie admitted to Diane Sawyer in 1995 that they do have sex. Karen Faye, Michael’s makeup artist, tweeted she once walked in on them having sex. David Foster (Michael’s music producer), John Branca (Michael’s and Lisa Marie’s attorney), the people who worked with Michael in the studio where he recorded his music, Linda Thompson, Brenda Ritchie, Michael’s driver and bodyguards, Michael’s associates, Michael’s family and friends have all said it was a romantic relationship/marriage.
@@julybaby0727 Just because Lisa and Michael claimed they were having sex does not mean they actually were. Most of what they said in that 1995 interview were statements made for the cameras. The truth is they never slept together which is why Lisa was going back to her ex on the side. She needed attention from a man that Michael was not capable of giving her do to his beliefs.
I definitely think it was intentionally orchestrated but I also think they genuinely liked each other considering how the family speaks of Lisa and the fact Jackson and Presley secretly (not-so secret now) where seeing each other years after their divorce and during mikes other marriage
Not even ashame to say it is a cult marriage being arrange. Every thing in MJ is life ws arrange and plan, real marriage comes from God almighty .marriage is not fun for the world, except the one like this that was approve by cult.
Lady Diana and Diana Ross were better in his life because they have an open heart love for MJ but not of marriage. They were not like snake in MJ, is life. Death separate him and the 2 Diana.
@@thedetail. i wasn't talking about the SUBtitles. I see THE TITLES of your vids in Russian The freaking names i mean. Some Russians might click on it just to find out it's in English. PS Love your work.
Imo mike should never have gotten involved with the presleys lisa Marie or anything involved with her i don't know if they actually loved each other but after watching this video i feel the marriage was not genuine and thank God mike didnt have children with her if he did i think the kids will have been very unhappy with that racist pricilla since the only sane and pleasant person in the family is Riley....
@@julianmiguel6508do you have a brain at all I never said they didn't love each other I know for a fact that Mike loved her and Lisa did too but it almost seemed forced and the way she speaks about Danny it's obvious who she was really IN LOVE WITH I'm just a teenager but even the blind can see through the presley family
And jealous of what exactly a less than two year marriage y'all jacksleys or whatever you call yourselves like to make this union more than it was ....yeah rest in peace to both but they were not compatible its been almost thirty years now so get over it
I liked Michael with Lisa they should have had kids together ! But you he clearly wanted her to be a “yes man” and didn’t like when she had different opinions then him that’s why he ran to Debbie so fast
@@preciousegwu7805 it’s not obvious. He’s wasn’t exactly a normal person was he? And his marriage was kinda staged in an effort to divert attention from his sleeping with children. And his actual children he had after the marriage ended weren’t conceived naturally. And they weren’t black.
All the praise goes to Michael for not falling for the Scientology tactics, even in his most vulnerable and desparate state. Proves he's stronger and smarter than many people give him credit for.
@eatforhappiness6150 Think he looked into Scientology and according to their website took some classes. For his own reasons, he decided not to go further with Scientology.
@@musiclove5935 Michael did casually asked Lisa that ' Who will marry me now If? If I ask to marry you will you marry me?' How will Scientology know Michael's lawyers will advise him to marry? How will Scientology know that Michael will be turned down brutally by Brooke Shield? How will Scientology know that Michael will casually ask Lisa for marriage? Lisa was a phone friend to Michael. Michael had many phone friends. Have you heard Glenda tapes? Michael had long phone calls with them. How will Scientology set up everything. Scientology might influence Lisa, but they can't force Michael. Do you think Lisa would leave Danny, father of her two children, just for Scientology? I don't think this story works.
@@MJJUBS girl let it go
@@julianmiguel6508 It's fine 🙂
@@MJJUBS Interesting. Whatever really happened we can't know exactly. I do know that Scientology has a huge influence on their members. I can't say what Priscillas devotion was to the cult though. I wasn't there.
Two things can be true at the same time: Lisa loved Michael, and Scientology interfered in their relationship.
Exactly. They were legitimately in love, but that cult also wanted to try to control him (which was obviously never going to happen)
Lisa can never love MJ. It is all the cult game. How can you love a man that you cannot sleep with, but left him and see his ex husband. If there is love in the cult that got them marriage, then there will be no divoice. Sad, for both of them.
@@briancole5673how do you know she didn’t sleep with him, she’s said multiple times that she did
Lisa had said numerous times after Michael’s passing, that she loved him alot. That they got together every time she was single, and even discussed getting back together and getting remarried.
Her last interview with Oprah makes it clear that what they had was real. The regret, pain she expressed, stress, and anger she felt is not manufactured.
I know that Michael is not a Scientologist, he was actually a Christian.
maybe muslim cause his brother is one
Edit:my bad i guess i was wrong he wasnt muslim
Not in his adult life… he was more spiritual and sources have said that he did convert to islam in his last years..
@@z0ee996 oh fair
Michael nació en un seno familiar muy religioso. Sus padres, eran Testigos de Jehová, sobre todo, la mamá de Michael es una mujer muy religiosa. Michael, empezó a tener roces con los Testigos de Jehová desde la publicación o lanzamiento del sencillo Thriller, ahí todo cambió porque ellos (Testigos de J.) no estaban de acuerdo con la letra de la canción). Años después, MJ se separó de los T. de J.
Michael, nunca dejó de creer en Dios, en un Ser Superior, era un hombre muy espiritual antes que ser religioso. Tal vez, no, seguramente por que su perspectiva de Dios, del Universo, del mundo, de las creencias, cambian cuando viajas por todo el mundo y estás en contacto con personas de diferentes culturas, religiones, creencias, costumbres, etc. Sabes que "Dios es parte de todas y todos. No importa si eres negro o blanco, si eres judío, católico o musulmán, si eres rico o pobre" " Todos Somos Uno" ❤
@@z0ee996He did not convert to Islam, that rumor started when he was in Bahrain and he was wearing a disguise that looked like a Muslim lady. He died a Christian, you can see him wear a coat with a huge cross on the back during the This is it rehearsals.
Michael was a deeply religious and spiritual person, but not a Scientologist, that's for sure. And in general, he and Lisa were a good couple, just too different.
Oh absolutely he was super Christian, always was, but that’s not the point. The point was that Scientology was trying to convert him using his vulnerability at the time.
@@unusuariomas7163 Yes, I understand... In 2003, when he was vulnerable again, the Nation of Islam was next to him...
By the way, Michael made his position pretty clear when he was asked a question on Prime Time.
I do not rule out that Scientologists interfered with Michael and Lisa's marriage, but to a greater extent I think that these two were too different in terms of worldview and spiritual priorities in general
I believe Scientology had everything to do with the marriage on Lisa’s part. But Michael, being as smart as he is, eventually would have nothing to do with Scientology, especially if they were to bring kids into it. There is no way he would allow that.
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I agree Laura! Thanks for your words about Michael! He would never agree with scientology.
@@PaulaWilliams29 lisa Marie loved Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson was too good and kind for this world. The world, that exploited him to death! The so-called "American dream"!
It's sad that Michael could not have people who loved him genuinely for who he was.
Wrong if he found her he found lisa Marie Presley,but the world didn't want them together
@@julianmiguel6508 Hey look, I know that both of them said they loved each other, but I can't shake the feeling that Lisa agreed to marry Michael because of Scientology and ended up falling in love with him.
I don't know what do you think?
@@xabisokuza2518 lisa married him for love,she felt her first husband AND married michael,AND Many people didn't want them togheter
@@julianmiguel6508 As an MJ fan. I would hope they married for love.
@@xabisokuza2518 there Is not other reason why they would get married,Michael did not marry her to show that he was a normal straight Man,however there are fans who think that Is very sad AND ugly to see what Envy can do to people AND others judging lisa AND saying that she married him for His fame AND fortune,it's disgusting to read all that baseless rubbish
It could’ve been arranged but I think she actually ended up falling for him. You can see her get defensive a bit when her interviewers would bash MJ thinking she would go along with it. Plus she never really bashed him after the fact. She was really hurt by his death so yea I think she actually fell in love with him…
Their marriage wasn’t organic at all. Michael had his people seek out and invite Lisa on a date with him. Buttttt I do believe she did fall for him, she spoke about the love she had for him for years and felt she was the only one who understood him
i agree plus she kept seeing him after the divorce
this was a very interesting video. I never knew about the Scientology angle.
I definitely see this as a possibility. Michael was in a very vulnerable place and it’s hard to deny the convenient timing of the marriage regarding the accusations, but definitely two separate interests might’ve come together for this marriage. Scientology wanting to bring a vulnerable but very rich, famous and powerful celebrity into their church, and Michael being desperate to make some damage control for his public image, and maybe even some personal motivation as he wanted children.
But in the end we won’t ever know, so we really lack enough information to conclude anything.
Incorrect Michael and lisa loved each other investigate well and don't assume Michael took the marriage as something sacred,with lisa they were lovers before and after the marriage
I literally just watched their interview they did & as soon as it went off I see you’ve posted this! 😂
Lisa Marie gave an interview in 2015 with reporter Tony Ortega, that was released after Lisa Marie’s death, Lisa Marie said Scientology orchestrated her divorce from Michael too. Those trips Lisa Marie took with Danny and their kids were orchestrated by Scientology too, to cause friction in her marriage to Michael. Lisa Marie said she never wanted to divorce Michael and she was in-love with him. And that the lawyers from Scientology filed divorce papers on her behalf without her permission/consent. Scientology pushed to divorce Michael. It was similar to how Scientology orchestrated the Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman divorce. And Scientology was worried Michael was driving Lisa Marie away from Scientology like Scientology claimed Nicole was doing to Tom.
Gracias por tu comentario, acabo de enterarme de esta información. La Cienciología no me agrada, ahora menos. Cómo una religión o doctrina puede influir en la vida de las personas. En realidad, así son todas las religiones, sin embargo, no tienen el derecho de meterse en la vida, en las decisiones y la felicidad de alguien. Lamento, que Michael y Lisa no hayan sido felices como en realidad lo deseaban. Todos los "vampiros" siempre tratan de chuparle la sangre a la gente que está en la cúspide y vivir de ellos 😢 Saludos desde Puebla, México 🌻🌻🌻
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I smell BS. What evidence do you have of that? None. Lol.
Makes sense🤔
She left her husband for MJ. She was not in love, she did it for raising her status. Omg 😅😅😅
These 2 were in love at some point. They even expressed their love for each other even after they divorced
Great job 'The detail'. 👍 Thank you for your hard work ❤
You always create videos with interesting issues about MJ! All the other channels do some ordinary stuff, but you really deal with the person behind the success!
Thank you once again for this controversial and incredibly interesting video 🪄
Thank you! Loved researching it!
He's a hater
About time this was brought out to the public.
There was literally nothing about this video that was breaking news
Lisa was trying to recruit MJ into Scientology. I think she ended up falling for him though.
All I remember thinking of this union back in the day was
Omg imagine a jackson presley baby, lol
Measuring feelings
“Take these handles in your hands and think of something that is troubling you,
about something bad,” a Church of Scientology employee sets up
electropsychometer. It is a streamlined device with a division screen and an arrow. The arrow of the device first rushes along the scale, then freezes exactly in the middle. “Now think about the same thing again,” she asks. I just as diligently think about the best that comes to mind. “You see, you thought about the bad, the device fixes it,” the employee triumphs. It is not possible to understand some regularity in the movement of the arrow.
The E-meter, also known as an electropsychometer, began to be used by Scientology founder Ron Hubbard in the 1950s. Followers of his teachings believe that the device helps the priest (auditor) to determine which area of experience of the subject (preclear) to work with. Before the 1960s, Scientologists
it was said that the device could treat certain diseases. but in 1963 the US Food and Drug Administration accused the church of fraud; hundreds of electropsychometers were seized during the search. Then the followers of Hubbard changed the description of the operation of the device: “The E-meter itself does nothing. This is an electronic device that measures the mental state and change in the state of a person. Auditing was done more accurately and faster. The E-meter is not intended or effective for diagnosing, treating, or preventing any kind of disease.” Scientists claim that this is an ordinary galvanometer. And in addition, it is known that when passing through certain stages, a person must contribute money to the church. In the history of the Church of Scientology, there are many cases where the inability to pay for the next step led people to bankruptcy or suicide. One such episode became the subject of an investigation in Time magazine in 1991: a former parishioner of the church jumped out of the window, clutching in his hand the last money that had not yet passed to the Scientologists.
I think MJ and Lisa Marie Presley were genuinely in love at one point. But, their views were worlds apart, and that soured their marriage. I wish it could have worked out. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop, and the princess of rock and roll. 🎉
Well said!
@@thedetail.Your channel is tash,bye
The king of pop and lisa marie presley always be lovebirds forever and elvis presley is not the king of rock and roll fats Domino is the king of rock and roll
@@kaylynkorir6823 Elvis Is,he Is much better than fats domino AND any other,the black community speaks highly of Elvis even artists that mj admired speak highly about elvis
When Mj passed away there was a picture of Lisa Marie on his desk.
Tha had a painting that looked exactly like her as well.
Also look at Lisa's interviews. They loved each other. It's obvious
Ooooo, the teaaaaa! ☕️
I was so into this video! I really believe that all the relationships that we got to know about were revealed to us to be good publicity. I 100% understand that the allegations sent Michael and his team into peak survival mode. It’s crazy to consider the possibility that all of this was at play - them actually being into each other while simultaneously being together for the added benefits. Fascinating! ✨
Lisa Marie and Michael actually got together in November 1992, and started to date in May 1993 when she accompanied Michael to a Jimmy Cater charity thing in Atlanta in May 1993.
Thank you, this was a very interesting topic to research. Love learning all about the context of the time.
False lisa Marie and Michael loved each other before and after their marriage
I wonder what would have happened if Lisa and Michael did have kids together.
Or if they stayed together. 😢
Or if they had sex.
Oh please I'm sure we watched the same video and I don't even think she loved him like that 🙄he actually deserved more than life gave him
for one, his kids would have been mixed and they wouldn't look like paris or any of the children he had with debbie. Michael said blanket's mother was a person of color during that Martin Bashir interview... that's clearly false. Michael wanted white kids. The racism he experienced made him not want to put that forward.
It's impossible. 😅😅😅 MJ never used his own sperm to create kids anyway because there was no sperm that existed 😅😅😅.
That look Lisa had when Michael said that he's not a Scientologist 14:04
İ noticed it also, not only the look but also her exaspered sigh... She annoyed me, she was controlling...
@@Ambrosia-stop talking nonsense she was just looking at him,she was angry at the interviewer who asked stupid questions
Stop talking nonsenses
@@julianmiguel6508 I don't know if it was obvious to you or not but I was making a joke. I watch the entire interview I know she's just upset about the question. Calm down
i believe that they truly cared for each other .....nothing wrong with that ...
Interesting! I’ve never heard about this angle before, and trust I’ve watched a lot of MJ footage and documentaries haha. It does hold some possible credence, but as for Lisa Marie I think she probably still genuinely loved him. And probably Michael loved her in his “own way” (I think he had a great baseline love for everyone and was at the very least affectionate and sympathetic towards her and her life circumstances). I’m sure Scientology has some influence in the industry even when it’s not necessarily that people are part of the church, there’s probably a receding slope of influence just around each celebrity that is a member due to vicinity and power of name recognition.
Been watching you for a few years now and I love love love this channel. You literally spoil a MJ fan, used to be so hard to research and find facts and footage like this b4 I found your channel, much appreciated. And you are always fair, which is even harder to find!
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Thank you so much! Love to spoil the fans, always something new to discover 🤔
This is a hater channel, you're supporting it
It's devastating how many tried to use and manipulate Michael!!! I'm honestly disgusted by Lisa and Scientology as a whole. Pathetic and reprehensible
I don't think you understand the situation if you BLAME Lisa Marie. Lisa was a victim of Scientology as much as anyone else.
Lisa Marie loved Michael Jackson
Lisa loved him, why are you hating on her?
@@sorceress1986we clearly see she was pissed of Micheal when he said he wasn't and he wouldn't be a scientologist
@@sorceress1986 Victims can become abusers and that happens all of the time! This is seen in those who become child abusers, children who watch their parent commit repeated domestic abuse against their other parent & then become domestic abusers as they get older as well. There are also many other examples. I understand she was born into it, but as an adult, you can't continue to continue to perpetuate deplorable behavior simply bc you were born into a cult. Lisa had the ability to use critical thinking once she matured and to at least try and research why that cult is so destructive. We have a responsibility as adults to break harmful cycles. It's like David Miscavige, who was also born into now he's committing & cosigning some of the most egregious crimes out there. Leah Remini was introduced to the cult of Scientology when she was VERY young but she recognized that nefarious things were happening and then realized she couldn't be part of something that was this dangerous and hurt so many people!
In Mike Rinder’s book he details Michael’s experience in the Scientology Celebrity Centre with Lisa Marie.
I wish I could have gone back in time to tell mike not to get involved with the presley girl she never seemed like a genuine person to me and no im not saying mike was a saint but she was to indecisive and gullible to even raise a genuine family
I guess eachone of the involved had own interests regarding this marriage, but despite of it al,l i stll believe they developed feelings for eachother. Anyway there's no love able to survive problematic individuals.
Was they legally married? In the country they allegedly was married in if you are getting a divorce you have to be single for 10 months before you can get married again in that country. They allegedly got married in 2 weeks after her divorce
The fact that he was in a vulnerable state is obvious by thr fact that he would marry her so suddenly. But joining scientology was clearly not on his list. Lisa seems highly controlled. She's a nepo baby, they hardly ever have their own lives in reality. While she absolutely seemed to be in love with him, who wouldn't be? Still doesn't mean she wasn't sent to recruit him.
It's possible...
Seeing the king of pop marry the king of rock's daughter was one of the funniest and the coolest thing I saw growing up from the 90s 😂.
This is so spicy omg ☕️☕️☕️
Michael Jackson was a man of god, meaning a Christian.
Thank you
The illusions Michael played on the world. What a great magician.
The Greatest of All Time
I think Michael and Lisa Marie did love each other!!! ❤
i also don’t see Lisa as being Michael’s type.
Yes Yes 😠😠😠........very good Michael 👏👏👏BRAVo 👍 👍 Love Michael Jackson 🙏🙏
Are You ok😂😂
Yes I'm sure he is I've noticed you're just a hopeless romantic making this mistake of a marriage more than it was
Omg they used Michael and then made him look like the bad guy! Poor Lisa & MJ.
In Frank Cascio's book he says it was for publicity reasons
Frank seemed like he was jealous of Lisa tho. Idk… strange man.
But lisa said it was real so which one ?
No he didn't
@@CCI320 Did you read it?
Мне кажется, эта версия правдоподобна. Майкл искренне влюбился, а Лизу заставили. Да, она хотела бы его полюбить, помочь, но Майкл ее раздражал. Все ее откровения после - это влюбленность постфактум, потому что такой уникальной личности как Джексон в ее жизни больше не было
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Only 1 King of P☮️P
Forever love/live MJ
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Do you think AEG Randy Philipps and all his staff have a responsability in MJJ death ?
Too quote Donkey from Shrek, "Celebrity marriages. They never last."
Is a lack of respect with Michael and with Lisa to say it was stunt! I don't believe it in no way. I usually like The Detail videos but i don't approve this one!
Just a theory that was out there, we talk about everything
As always thank you. Can you cover the promo which contains O fortuna Carmina Burana. Was it just coincidence or was there a meaning for choosing that music?
i had no idea lisamarie was into scientology no one mentions her when they talk about celebrity scientologists
Oddio io non ci credo comunque grazie per il video sandy da roma italy ❤
Everything about this pr stunt was a mess.
It wasn't a publicity stunt they were together before and after the marriage you are just jealous of lisa or You are another Dianna ross obsessed fan
@@julianmiguel6508 Everything was planned and scripted between them get over it. I am not a diana obsessed fan lmao I think she’s a weirdo actually.
@@girletteso u lived in there closet 😂
@@mennamentos-ht1my They told on themselves 😂
@@girlette no lisa said it was a real marriage but probably u lived in the closet w them to know this
whatever happened to your merch store btw i was wondering if it was coming back :)
Nah its no longer in operation
Their marriage was meant to accomplish several things. How well did that work out?...
See the humbleness in MJ and the opposite in Lisa...
It is true that the only reason why MJ married Lisa was because of the false allegations. If the false allegations would have never occurred he would have never married her, and would have kept saying "I'm married to my work". And Lisa did not try to get MJ into Scientology, she said so herself that she didn't in the Diane Sawyer interview. Besides, it was MJ who asked her to marry him, it wasn't Lisa asking MJ to marry her, so the Scientology had nothing to do with their marriage.
for another topic can you do all about the heal the world foundation and complications from t hat
I heard about an interview of LMP published after her death and she says that Scientology pressured her to divorce Michael, is that true?
I’ve heard this also
Não acredito q Michael amava lisa
Donald trump spoke about this on Howard stern. Surprised didn’t mention this.
What a load of bullshit this whole video was. Michael Jackson was the one who pushed for the relationship with Lisa. He first called Priscilla when Lisa was only 16 years old, but Priscilla told him Lisa was too young for Michael to be asking after her. Then in the interview with Diane Sawyer, Michael said he tried contacting Lisa through a lawyer when Lisa was 18 because he thought "she was really cute". Once they actually met years later at a mutual friend's place and started talking, they fell in love with each other.
MJ almost drop her music career for his own religious devotion , i don't think Scientologist will stand a chance to pursue MJ to their religion 😅
PR stunt with those two for sure, Michael was private about his relationships his real ones were kept private this one was not one of them it was public for a reason, and it was for a business deal that was the reason
Il aurait dû se marier avec Whitney Houston.
Наконецто ктото сказал правду
What true ridiculous😂😂😂
лол там буквально говорится, что это всё спекуляции
Прошу напиши в крации язык не знаю спасибо жду
Правда в том что она вышла за Майкла замуж чтобы завербовать его в свою секту ! Элвис Пресли был против этой секты и он бы не допустил их в свою жизнь вот и Майкл не допустил ! Каждый живет своим умом комуто кажется что это спекуляции а может при более подробном ознакомлении это не будет казаться спекуляциями зная что до самой смерти ЛМП ее муж первый который был прикреплен к ней сектантами как духовный учитель он не расстался с ней до самой ее смерти , их сын умер она умерла а он так называемый :учитель жив ... это ли не страшенно ? И зачем Мвйклу такое ? Майкл не был дураком и вовремя слинял !
@@jefferson9335 большое спасибо смотря видео по Лизи видно что Майкл ей не нужен Майкл умный человек не отрицаю
As much as I do believe Lisa genuinely loved Micheal. Its really hard to comprehend his true intentions, considering the convenient timing of the marriage right after the allegations surfaced…
They were dating before the accusations they met in 1992 AND they got married in secret,the accusations are false there Is nothing wrong or weird about them getting married AND as i said they got married in secret AND after the divorce they where lovers trying to get back togheter hoy don't do that in a farce
But there was a letter 💌 auctioned.
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Yes the head of sciencetology.first name mark scarvige.put it in Lisa's ear to divorce Michael. And she truly regretted her decision. She never got over Michael. Even though she married someone else. I believe she never stopped loving him ever
WHA6S SCIENTIOELRY!
Please watch 9:39 and we all find dominate nature of Lisa over Michael
I find no reasons of Lisa divorcing Danny Keough and running back to him when he was wife of Michael. I find no reason of her divorcing Michael and again getting intimate with him and getting attached to him thereafter.
There was no point of promising Michael to go for children before marriage and breaking promises just after marriage. Michael repeatedly asked Lisa to keep his promise. Michael was very clear before marriage that after marriage they would first go for children. Michael proposed Lisa and settled their marriage when Lisa was already a wife to Danny Keough. If Lisa didn't like conditions why did she divorce and got ready with Michael?
Actually Lisa was very whimsical and dominant which no husband tolerated except Danny Keough.
Michael went to Debbie for children after Lisa divorced him. On January 1996, they got divorced. Please remember Prince was born in February 1997.
Jealousy is treated with the psychiatrist
@@julianmiguel6508 It's not jealousy, it's feeling pity....any normal woman will feel pity on life history of Lisa. She got true love only from Michael Jackson. Rest all of her husband utilized her. Unfortunately she hurt Michael Jackson most. Why being jealous of such empty whimsical woman? It's sad that along with her life she spoiled Michael Jackson's life too....
@@MJJUBShow are You going feel for her if in every comment You talk sh***t about her😂😂
@@MJJUBSYou are so misinformed😂😂 You Say a lot things that are not,You are definitely a hater of lisa
@@julianmiguel6508 That is because throughout her life she made woman community ashamed 😔. She failed to be a competent mother too ....
5:08 whose kids are those?
Lisa’s
I get a sense that almost all celebrity marriages are arranged, done mostly for publicity. Michael's team advised him he should be seen with a woman more after the damaging allegations that ruined his public image. He was never into women in a intimate way. Being exposed to strippers in the seedy nightclubs he and his brothers played in during the early years of the Jackson 5 damaged his attitude toward women and sex. While his brothers were inviting women into their hotel rooms Michael avoided that behavior because he believed sex was dirty and a sin.
During his so-called marriage to Lisa he never had any sexual relations with her and it is possible he never had sex with a woman at any point in his life. The kids he made with Debbie were done with the assistance of a lab. He jokingly talked about looking at women while riding in the safety of his limo however that was done purely for the cameras.
Please come let us reason together. So if Michael and Lisa Marie never had sex, what then were they doing together for another 4 years after their divorce? They were together for another 4 years after their divorce, often seen together, at times sighted coming out of a hotel. So what do you think? It's hard to believe they never had sex. Michael's close friends said Michael liked women like every other guy. Michael had visible érectïons several times on stage. Look out for his erectile mishaps in his videos where he wore gold trousers. Michael Joseph Jackson loved and 'played' with women like any regular man.
@@ifoodsservicesand some ppl that were close to Michael stated that they surely loved each other so much
the kids he had with debbie weren't his. They don't look mixed. Michael said blanket's mother was a person of color... no she wasn't. All Michael's kids had 2 white parents that's why they look european. But Michael raised them so he's the father ofc. Everything else I wholeheartedly agree with, I don't think Michael was interested in that. I do remember him saying "I do more than that" which I think it's what you referring to (a fan approached him asking for a hug)
Both Michael and Lisa Marie had sex before, during, and after their marriage. Both Michael and Lisa Marie admitted to Diane Sawyer in 1995 that they do have sex. Karen Faye, Michael’s makeup artist, tweeted she once walked in on them having sex. David Foster (Michael’s music producer), John Branca (Michael’s and Lisa Marie’s attorney), the people who worked with Michael in the studio where he recorded his music, Linda Thompson, Brenda Ritchie, Michael’s driver and bodyguards, Michael’s associates, Michael’s family and friends have all said it was a romantic relationship/marriage.
@@julybaby0727 Just because Lisa and Michael claimed they were having sex does not mean they actually were. Most of what they said in that 1995 interview were statements made for the cameras. The truth is they never slept together which is why Lisa was going back to her ex on the side. She needed attention from a man that Michael was not capable of giving her do to his beliefs.
@ :50 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, it was arranged.
He's a spy.
Still alive.
This marriage was a PR-Stunt.
You have proffs?
Fax fake asf 😂😂💯
No it wasn't
I definitely think it was intentionally orchestrated but I also think they genuinely liked each other considering how the family speaks of Lisa and the fact Jackson and Presley secretly (not-so secret now) where seeing each other years after their divorce and during mikes other marriage
@@isaacs.9383Michael and lisa loved each other
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Самая красивая пара уходящего века....😢 была !
Not even ashame to say it is a cult marriage being arrange. Every thing in MJ is life ws arrange and plan, real marriage comes from God almighty .marriage is not fun for the world, except the one like this that was approve by cult.
Just another religion
Lady Diana and Diana Ross were better in his life because they have an open heart love for MJ but not of marriage. They were not like snake in MJ, is life. Death separate him and the 2 Diana.
It’s my belief and hopes that MJ left this earth still believing in Jesus Christ. I think he loved Jehovah too much to dabble in Scientology.
Can you not translate the titles? Vids are in English so why i see translated titles? Cheap move kinda.
I have subtitles for many languages
@@thedetail. i wasn't talking about the SUBtitles. I see THE TITLES of your vids in Russian The freaking names i mean. Some Russians might click on it just to find out it's in English.
PS Love your work.
You sound so rude
Imo mike should never have gotten involved with the presleys lisa Marie or anything involved with her i don't know if they actually loved each other but after watching this video i feel the marriage was not genuine and thank God mike didnt have children with her if he did i think the kids will have been very unhappy with that racist pricilla since the only sane and pleasant person in the family is Riley....
No lisa Marie loved Michael Jackson you are very jealous
Michael loved lisa Marie
@@julianmiguel6508do you have a brain at all I never said they didn't love each other I know for a fact that Mike loved her and Lisa did too but it almost seemed forced and the way she speaks about Danny it's obvious who she was really IN LOVE WITH I'm just a teenager but even the blind can see through the presley family
And jealous of what exactly a less than two year marriage y'all jacksleys or whatever you call yourselves like to make this union more than it was ....yeah rest in peace to both but they were not compatible its been almost thirty years now so get over it
@@preciousegwu7805two years of marriage but You ignore the years after the divorce that they were together there are pictures and all
Two dead people this video is important why?
I liked Michael with Lisa they should have had kids together ! But you he clearly wanted her to be a “yes man” and didn’t like when she had different opinions then him that’s why he ran to Debbie so fast
Did they consummate the marriage?
Obviously why else will she pursue him around the world if they didn't
@@preciousegwu7805 it’s not obvious. He’s wasn’t exactly a normal person was he? And his marriage was kinda staged in an effort to divert attention from his sleeping with children. And his actual children he had after the marriage ended weren’t conceived naturally. And they weren’t black.
@@RichieW90210 Kinder leben noch warum müssen sie schwarz sie haben blonde Mutter