Is Veganism Really the Answer?
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In this Our Changing Climate video essay, I look at the validity of vegan and plant-based diets as a solution to climate change. I dive into the human and planetary toll of the meat industry, looking at the massive emissions toll of beef production as well as the exploitative conditions in meat processing plants. Ultimately, I consider whether veganism is an effective tool to dismantling the meat industry and mitigating climate change.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:31- How Capitalism Stole Meat
8:35 - The Meat Industry's Environmental Toll
15:42 - Is Veganism the Solution?
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I eat a plant based diet and I also don’t wear the skins or feathers of animals…ending the exploitation of animals is an ethical goal, which will have a positive ripple effect of decreasing the risk of new pandemics, antibiotic resistance, and catastrophic climate change
💯 Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations
The most comprehensive *meta-analysis* conducted to date with 119 countries, shows avoiding animal products is the *"SINGLE BIGGEST WAY"* to reduce our environmental impact. -journal Science
Do you offer this translated in Chinese and Spanish? 🙏
@@leviahimsa I agree. "According to the most comprehensive analysis of farming’s impact on the planet, plant-based food is most effective at combatting climate change. Oxford University researcher Joseph Poore, who led the study, said adopting a vegan diet is “the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth.”
“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use. It is far bigger than cutting down on your flights or buying an electric car,” he explained, which would only reduce greenhouse gas.“ Avoiding consumption of animal products delivers far better environmental benefits than trying to purchase sustainable meat and dairy,” he added.” -"The Independent" interview of Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford.
Joseph Poore switched to a plant based diet after seeing the results of the study.
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Veganism is a philosophy primarily opposed to the commodity status of animals, it is not simply a plant-exclusive diet.
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals." - The Vegan Society
Its really hard to imagine animals decomodifed while humans are still a comodity.
@@nessimrihani5962 Animal decommodification and human decommodification may well happen simultaneously. As soon as humans wake up to the idea we are treating sentient and sapient beings as resources rather than living breathing and thinking creatures, it should all fall into place naturally.
It seems like a kind of identity politics to me. A lot of talk and controversy that just distracts from the core issue (capitalism)
Many people who aren't vegan never realize this. It's disgraceful
Just want to note that one of the reasons the meat and dairy industry remains so profitable despite its enormous inefficiency is due to taxpayer-funded incentives and subsidies. The state is constantly rescuing this industry from its failures and pushing it to overproduce.
I am vegan and I get angry at the thought that my taxes are used to subsidize animal torture instead of making veggies, fruits and legumes cheaper.
The US economy is a capitalist economy and the government exists to keep that economy running, so it will ALWAYS subsidize and bail out the largest businesses, because those businesses are what keep the line up. If you don't like it, you need to fight to replace it with a different government and different economic system, no amount of regulations or voting can fix the rot.
Farmers get absolutely no government subsidies in my country yet agriculture is our biggest export earner. There are shortages of all plant foods after 18 months of highly unusual wet weather that has seen flooding and horticultural livelihoods lost. Many people have lost their lives. There's no shortage of meat and milk though.
@@jg5755 seems there are no shortages in the plant food that the cows eat... so your comment "There are shortages of all plant foods after 18 months" isn't 100% correct.
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Animal feed can be stored and import is also fairly straightforward, unless the people concerned are just flat out broke. So beef and dairy being available doesn't mean, there can't be shortages in fresh produce, fruit or even grain and corn. Especially the former ones require far more complicated logistics, to get them from one place to another without them spoiling. Animals also can be fed a lot of stuff, that's not suitable for human consumption. Pigs and chickens especially. So at least in the short run, these two issues can actually play out independently from each other on a global market.
To climate change? It sure helps, but doesn't solve it. To minimize the suffering, exploitation, killing and commodification we unnecessarily impose on animals? Definitely.
It's one of the leading causes of climate change, so although it cannot solve it by its own, there is no solution to climate change without veganism.
We need MEER Reflection Project as well
No one thing is going to solve it, but I think it's under appreciated how much it will help with fighting climate change. It's not just about the emissions but also land use. The most effective way to unlock negative emissions is rewilding land and animal agriculture, particularly beef production, is the single most land hungry industry on the planet. At this point we need negative emissions in addition to electrifying everything to avoid catastrophe.
"The worldwide phase out of animal agriculture, combined with a global switch to a plant-based diet, would effectively halt the increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases for 30 years and give humanity more time to end its reliance on fossil fuels, according to a new study by scientists from Stanford University and the University of California, Berkeley."-Science Daily
Title- "Replacing animal agriculture and shifting to a plant-based diet could drastically curb greenhouse gas emissions, according to new model
Date: February 1, 2022
Source: Stanford University
Summary:
Phasing out animal agriculture represents 'our best and most immediate chance to reverse the trajectory of climate change,' according to a new model developed by scientists."
Ending animal agriculture as we know it isn't sufficient to solve climate change, but is required- "Clark et al. show that even if fossil fuel emissions were eliminated immediately, emissions from the global food system alone would make it impossible to limit warming to 1.5°C and difficult even to realize the 2°C target. Thus, major changes in how food is produced are needed if we want to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement."-as published in the journal "Science"
Title, etc-"Global food system emissions could preclude achieving the 1.5° and 2°C climate change targets
MICHAEL A. CLARK" et al
Veganism is not just about emissions. That’s a second thought. It is, first of all, an ethical position that considers animals as fellow creatures who aren’t there for us to exploit for mere palate pleasure
Yes!
Cows eat grass (vegetation), therefore I'm vegan
Definitely, animals first. But it's a good motivation for people who are still in a bit of cognitive dissonance regarding the ethics
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
So, let's just turn all the cows and steers loose to roam wherever they want to go. There will be deaths from car accidents like you've never seen before. These animals are massive. They will also destroy every lawn. Everyone will be living in one big cow pasture. Everything on this earth eats something else on this earth. It's called balance. Plus, have you seen the number of vegan youtubers going back to eating meat because of health issues??? Mind boggling. We have both incisors and molars for a reason. Both for tearing and grinding our food. Our digestive system is made for both meat and plants. I suggest avoiding factory farming like the plague. We need to go back to small neighborhood family farms. The animals are healthier and happier and more nutritious. Small farms raise their animals humanely. God did not make us vegan. Read the Bible and do some deep research. Also, what about wild cats such as lions and tigers? They ONLY eat meat. And it is a brutal killing. They start tearing and eating flesh before their prey is dead. Should we remove lions and tigers from earth along with other meat-eating animals? Making decisions by your emotions is ridiculous.
As a vegan, veganism isn't THE solution. It's one of the solutions.
Veganism was never about climate change in the first place. It's about animal liberation. Environmentalists need to stop coopting the movement. It's not okay to torture animals just because veganism 'doesn't solve climate change. The fact veganism is good for the climate is completely irrelevant except for the fact it morally condemns meat eaters even more for not even having an excuse to use animals.
As a vegan, veganism is the solution for the reasons this video pointed out (even if it didn’t realise it).
@@Sebloe Neither of you watched the entire video it seems.
@@bkolumban If you’re referring to grass fed beef at the end, it’s not a solution. It’s not viable on a large scale for global populations.
Admittedly I didn't watch the video but it's such a disgrace that our changing climate basically argued against eating less animal products
Even if you are not a vegetarian, we should all be horrified by how the animals, and subsequently, the food you eat is treated. There is no concern about the welfare of animal or the human who eats it. Only concern is the bottom line and maximizing profits.
yes for virtually all industrialized meat. I live where it's done. The people only care enough to ensure profit at the back end.
I think it is easily the most disgusting and heinous thing humans have ever done on the planet, and I'm not budging on that. We've created true hells on Earth for money and pleasure. It all feels so pointless.
You mean vegan, right? Vegetarians are essentially just as involved in animal torture and exploitation.
If you aren't a vegan and you care about mistreatment of animals, you just haven't done enough research on how godawful animal agricultural is.
I only started being vegan this year after a lifetime of thinking I cared about animal welfare. It's amazing how delusional we can be.
and also not to discount from the huge amounts of suffering on dairy farms... Veganism > Vegetarianism
I thought you'd mention the role that government subsidies of animal agriculture plays into this issue.
For the reasons you mentioned, it's important for vegans and everyone else who does not agree with animal abuse to be politically involved. Citizen-led initiatives and activism can enact systemic change in a way that individual boycotts do not.
You are absolutely correct. The documentary called “Eating our way to Extinction” goes into some aspects of government involvement.
When the corporate world feels the down vote (i.e. people putting their market dollars into sustainable humane products) they'll change in a hurry. Don't wait for congress to take action. Ain't never gonna happen until YOU and me put our money elsewhere.
I can't watch this guys vids anymore. He's not bringing up more important questions.
Yes, the amount of money the government has given toward dairy is insane even though dairy consumption continues to decline. The government has entire campaigns and departments within the USDA to try to increase the amount of meat and dairy consumed such as the Beef Checkoff Program or the National Dairy Council funded through the Dairy Checkoff. We've got a whole cave system full of billions of pounds of cheese cause we don't eat it all and instead of simply acknowledging consumer demand isn't there the government (bought by corporations) continues to give more money to these monopolies simply to shove the products into a cave. Literally the thing that capitalists critiqued the Soviet Union for. And these programs mandate than school lunches have as much dairy as possible too. It's thoroughly corrupt and insane. The Farm Bill must be reformed to help farmers produce things we actually eat and make an actual living doing it instead of being a giant giveaway to monopolies that continue to pay farmers less!
@@donnavorce8856 yeah it's definitely important to make the individual change and go vegan. Vegans are the only people who claim to be against animal abuse that are not hypocrites.
Meat industry is also driving antibiotic resistance by pumping healthy animals with antibiotics
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US meat industry not world wide
America isn't the world.
Equally so is the widespread use of antibiotic hand soaps and people dumping their antibiotics down the drain.
@thatundeadlegacy2985 still not very good
I think it’s also important to note the catastrophic environmental damage large scale fishing has as well. You mainly talk about beef and chicken in this video which is indeed what most people think of when they hear meat. But most people seem somehow even more ignorant about the horrors of the fishing industry. I recommend the documentary ‘seaspiracy’ for more info
It’s catastrophic. It’s even worse because sea grasses that are destroyed by trawling NEVER grow back.
Seaspiracy is like a gory horror movie. Eating fish causes this gory horror. We need the oceans so badly and we have to stop destroying them.
I do agree. We need a video on the impact of fishing industry on this channel too! Seaspiracy is heartbreaking 💔 I’m so happy I don’t eat fish and don’t contribute to the terrorizing the oceans.
Fish farming in the future.
@@blugaledoh2669fish farming won't help, we simply need to stop and not contribute
It's not the only answer that is required, but it is an important one. I used to be a big meat eater, but 2 years ago I cut my consumption by over 90% and I don't miss it at all.
What's stopping you from cutting out the rest of it? And dairy and eggs. Would you vent just a little R-22 to atmosphere? Would you run the air conditioner with the windows open only 10% of the time? Burn just a few tires? What's the pitch for reducitarianism? "I know eating babies is bad, so I only eat a few."
It's unethical because of the effects to humanity and the climate, but to the individual animals you're consuming, it's their entire world. Global databases of animal genetics have led to selective breeding for overproducing animals whose bodies are painful prisons. They experience infectious disease, cancer, broken bones, prolapsed vaginas (for cows) and prolapsed oviducts (for chickens) to support your consumption, just to name a few. Changing your diet is the least you can do. It's so easy there really is no excuse.
It's the most important one. If you don't miss it at all, cut it out completely.
@@bastianena I think public transportation to reduce private car usage is way more important
@@BalaenicepsRex3 Actually, the studies comparing the environmantal impact of private car usage and eating a standard diet show that the latter does far more damage in the long run. Eating a diet free of animal products is the second biggest thing you can do to reduce your negative impact (after not having kids, which I am not advocating for, it just was in the study I am referring to). Transportation, even flying, comes after.
@@victoriakyrychenko1456what study, if I may ask?
Happy to see earthling Ed in this video, for his hard work on animal liberation and vegan activism.❤
Humans are designed too eat meat not plants
Hes done some good stuff, an inspiration and a hope for many. Much love to him
I'm vegan
@@jordanbenger5227 noqapas
@@jordanbenger5227 im carnivore
3 years vegan ✌🏼😎🌱
Gonna be 3 years for me in September
1 year for me. Took me 6 years or so to transition. Feel so guilty, but I'm still young. Could be worse eh? I'll keep improving.
Nice!
I'm going on 7 I think
@@MattAngiono Haha yeah I also can't remember exactly xD
Probably about 6 years for me :)
awesome, same
Went vegan last year for the climate, animals, and personal health. I feel so good!
Kudos! Just as important as going vegan is staying vegan. To be sure you are doing it sustainably, I suggest reading the expert advice from the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine at "21 day kickstart." I also suggest using the free web site and app "Meetup" to find other vegans for socializing with. Here on TH-cam a good resource for cooking is the "Cheap Lazy Vegan" channel. There are many more good ones. Ethnic cuisines gives you lots of variety for a plant based diet. I now eat a lot of foods with that savory umami flavor I used to get from animal products. I eat a lot of mushrooms, miso paste, nutritional yeast, nori seaweed, and pasta sauce for that umami flavor. I use black salt on plain cubes of tofu heated in the microwave for a flavor identical to eggs. Nutritional yeast makes it even better.
Those starting out often aren't used to a lot of fiber and beans, so they should increase them gradually, and drink plenty of extra water as you do. When it comes to whole plant foods, eat extra food to compensate for the lower calorie density of whole plant foods.
❤ well done. You will miss out on a lot off chronic and lethal diseases! I just want to add to this that going vegan is not enough for health. I mean a vegan junk food lifestyle is going to help you marginally. Try to eat as close to nature, no manufactured poison. Look into whole food plant based.
@@kurtmissotten5965 Vegans develop and die from chronic diseases as well.
@@trentonharris7676at far, FAR lower rates, as all REAL science not funded by the livestock industry has proven indisputably.
@@FreeRadicals9478 There is no "real science" in the field of human nutrition regarding cause and effect relationships between diet and long-term human health outcomes. It is all uncontrolled, poorly designed, pseudoscientific, associative nonsense.
I'd like to bring up the medieval diet. Unless you were royalty, your diet consisted of a lot of vegetables and fruit, whole grains, nuts and legumes, eggs, milk, fish, and meat on special occasions and when one has good fortune to have a surplus.
I prefer a modern well planned plant based diet.
i'd rather have a diet that didn't come from an era where raw sewage flowed openly in the streets.
The University of Bristol analyzed the pots and pottery and found that stews (or pottages) of meat (beef and mutton) and vegetables such as cabbage and leek, were the mainstay of the medieval peasant diet. The research also showed that dairy products, likely the ‘green cheeses’ known to be eaten by the peasantry, also played an important role in their diet.
I hate the word legumes. Nobody knows what that word means lol
@@Jan96106 in one of England’s early medieval villages...
So veganism is the answer. Going vegan isn’t a small step but going plant based is a small step.
Fighting the giant meat lobbying corporations, helping farmers transition towards plant ag and changing food production to favour plant based production IS veganism.
This video is leftism and anti capitalism at its core: explains why the capitalists want us to eat more meat, and why it's bad, but then claims you shouldn't bother because you need to wait for capitalists to stop selling you meat.
I think we should support the lab grown meat industry. It's a more realistic solution, without any negatives
Go and read about Zhanna D’art, body need certain amino acid which is not available without animal products or high cost supplements, people like you are fooling young kids and destroying their life
Not really. Most vegans want to abolish meat production all together.
@@SnokenXI do not see why a vegan should have a problem with lab grown meat if no animal is involved in the process.
I’ve never seen any vegan activist protesting pastoralists or any village level animal subsistence farmers in any way. To suggest this as a problem with the movement towards veganism is a false pretense.
Agreed. Indeed, I would say it’s not just false, but preposterous. Really, it’s an excuse to not do the right thing yourself under the guise of pretending to care about people with fewer resources.
My predictions before watching: it won't magically solve every problem but humanity eating way less beef would have a positive impact on the environment
No single solution would work.
But this one would be HUGE, especially if we re-wild the land
@@MattAngionoI agree 100%
Your prediction is correct
@@MattAngionoso true
You're correct. It Doesn't matter.FUKUSHIMA's fallout has and Continues to contaminate Everything... As well as the Expired nucIear pIant up the street...
As a recent vegan for environmental and ethical reasons, I was nervous to watch this. However, I found myself agreeing with everything in the video. This is an excellent summary of the environmental case for change and the systems changes that are required.
No need to be vegan, support pasture raised & local instead. Pasture raised eggs esp[ecially are wonderful with hardly any envrionmental cost.
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@@soapparentlyyoucanchangeyo1449 actually not bs and makes a lot of sense
@@wyliehj 1. Being vegan will always do more for the environment than eating even the "cleanest" of animal products, so no, there is need 2. Local is a scam most of the time, in the very least with what the animals are fed, sure the farm may be local but the feed - depending on which animals - probably isn't, + the emissions caused by the animals, and the ethical implications of using animals for food
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Thats not true. The cleanest animal products would be keeping your own chickens on pasture and sustainable hunting and fishing remte areas.
Those are obviously both insanely better for the environment than buying produce at the gropcery store.
I don't think any vegan actually thinks that it is THE ONLY SOLUTION to address climate...
It's just the biggest one an individual can affect EVERY DAY.
You can't opt out of capitalism except by buying less stuff, which many vegans also participate in...
There's also the mental benefits that come from knowing your food isn't coming from an ongoing holocaust and so much suffering.
This changes one's whole disposition towards everything, and makes you a more peaceful person in general.
It lines up very nicely with Taoist philosophy, which is in my opinion the best way to a happy mental life, as well as physical.
Cheers!
Great video in general.... please post the info about grass-fed for the rest of us at some point
I think he already made that video on grass-fed cows, that's why he showed it here, right?
@@xraselver7634 he made it for Nebula subs
Holocaust? You're comparing a genocide to eating animals
How can anyone watch an undercover video from a slaughterhouse and then go "yeah, that's fine, I support that, I will keep giving them money"?
Usually the argument is that they are isolated incidents, and that they are cherry picked to make it seem more severe than it is. Sadly, they're not isolated incidents. Seeing how humans have treated other humans throughout history, especially when those other humans had no rights at the time, should make that pretty obvious.
"Steak tastes good."
Never underestimate the corruptive power of the intersection of helplessness in the face of a overwhelming problem, intersected by desire in the face of a wanted thing.
You do it. I do it. It is a fundamental component of the system that we are a part of. I do not wave it away, but I do understand it.
As an 8 year vegan with many hours doing activism, some people straight up dont care what happens to the animals and it becomes mental gymnastics to try to understand their perspectives. Thankfully, not many people have this extreme lack of empathy for the animals.
In most ways I'm all for the shift of the responsibility away from consumers towards those with more power, but that's generally about making environmental options more available and affordable, while making the harmful options more expensive or banned entirely. For people who already have access to cheap vegan food like legumes etc., the difference between "individual responsibility" and "governmental responsibility" is "do you want to go vegan by choice, or do you want to avoid it for as long as you can until someone else makes the decision for you?" And it would be a reach to say that people who choose option two are more likely to push for the change to happen on a larger scale, even though it's more in line with the "not a consumer responsibility" rhetoric.
Of course you individually going vegan isn't going to save the world. But that's not the baseline for what is and isn't the right thing to do.
Perfect answer ;)
Yeah, no one’s gonna advocate for phasing out animal ag subsidies if they still eat meat everyday. Changing individual minds results in the change of systems
This and the fact that as he stated himself, these corporations are purely guided by profit. They are not ''evil'' but only playing the game of capitalism. If a growing number of consumer stop buying their product they will either have to adapt or go bankrupt.
In the end, we don't need everyone to become vegan but simply enough people so that demand shifts and animal products become more expensive than their plant based counterparts. Which will probably create a snowball effect towards the mass adoption of a majoritarily plant based diet.
Exploitation of people and the suffering they endure also 100% factors into this. You'd be surprised how important the little things people enjoy like some chicken nuggets are to keeping them from blowing their brains out.
Not really an argument, just something I think is overlooked alot in these discussions.
@@Alex_Barbosa At first I thought you were going to talk about how damaging and exploitative work is on factory farms and slaughter houses, where (usually poor and marginalised) people are forced to decenticize themselves to torturing and killing animals day in and out, which leads to extreme harm towards the people involved as well as the families of the workers.
If the only way you can find joy in life is by harming and/or killing others, including the human workers at factory farms and slaughterhouses, then why do you feel entitled to that joy? I promise you that you can find the little joys elsewhere. Going vegan means giving up on some things, but you underestimate peoples abilities to search out new things that fulfill the same cravings.
Slaughter house conditions are so bad that you develop sociopathy. I read a research article showing that the violent crime rate of a neighborhood increases significantly when slaughterhouse workers start working there.
going vegan was the best decision I ever did in my life. Became vegetarian for the planet and the animals, but vegan changed my health and my happiness in a way I never thought I could feel that good, and I sat those words carefully
I went vegan years ago because i believe its the best thing i can do for my planet and the animals who live here🌱💚🌱💚🌱💚
Good luck with that produce that other countries dont want...
Thank you!
@dalep926 no one truly thinks we can continue the path we're on without collapsing entirely
@@MattAngiono, yes, and nucIear has put the world on a path downward ever since it was invented. No need to worry about "a country's b omb"... Its the WASTE of making those b ombs that we needed to worry about.
We are already through the guardrail... Jus waitin for the bottom
@@iCyWEdontCi2i hi friend, im one lucky guy to live in the part of the country that is known for producing the best organic veggies around. I hope you eat well also 💚🌱
interesting to know workers are also abused in slaughterhouses elsewhere. In Germany, there recently was an investigation showing the poor living and workinh conditions of these workers, usually from poorer parts of Europe. One woman even ignored her pregnancy, got her baby in a garage, and abandoned it near a supermarket. This is obviously a crime on her part, but would not have taken place if she didn't know she would loose her job immediately if she disclosed her being pregnant, as the empoyer wouldn't want to pay her during maternaty leave. (Firing someone for being pregnant is illegal in Germany and paying maternaty leave legally required)
_Not THE answer; only AN answer_ . It's one of many, such as eliminating urban cars, replacing them with free walk-on walk-off public transportation.
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I don't think veganism is strict. We have over 20 000 edible plants in the world yet we primarily eat less than 20, so if there's a problem it's accessibility.
Also we all know what meat tastes like even if we haven't tried all. It's always greasy and salty but by eating a banana you can never guess what kiwi tastes like. I bet there are flavors out there we can't even imagine. However you can still do so much with what's available now.
Great video!
380 000 known plants but only 20 000 can be eaten. Meanwhile every animal but a few poisonous ones can be eaten. Clearly we should find more animals to eat and they'll all be tasty most likely.
Well a chicken doesn’t really taste like beef, nor does a sirloin steak taste like cow liver. But you’re right, plants have amazing variety. Recently I tried a plane tree banana for the first time, it was weird after eating only one kind of banana for all my life 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
@@fjooyou We are primates though. We share almost 100% of our DNA with apes. Just look what their diet consists of.
@@markus19999apes still eat meat but mostly plants. I think this is more reasonable than a full vegan diet because vegans that don’t take supplements will lack nutrients that people need.
@@joelle4226 The only thing you should consider supplementing if not eating variety of foods is vitamin B-12 which is made by microorganisms. It is naturally found in soil and rivers and such. That's how herbivores get it, however we live so cleanly nowadays that we cannot get it the way we normally would by living in the nature.
What comes to apes, they primarily eat fruits and vegetables and also some insects. They occasionally may result to eating meat if for example food is scarce.
Also there are plenty of scientific evidence supporting that by adopting a wholefood plant-based diet is the most healthy for all stages of life. You can go and take a look at for example The China Study which is considered to be the most comprehensive study on nutrition. 👍🏻
Nearly 11 years vegan. Best decision I ever made.
Ignore the suppliments
@@thatundeadlegacy2985yeah you generally can ignore the supplements, that's the great thing about a plant-based diet you can get all the nutrients you need.
@@thatundeadlegacy2985 with vegans only being a few percent of the population, who is buying the billions of dollars of supplements?
If you mean B12, many are deficient - especially farm animals who get the vast majority.
Vegan for the victims, plant based for the environment, whole food plant based for health. ✌️🍉
Well put! 👍 🖖
Boom. And what person with self-respect wouldn’t want to strive for all three?
For real. I’m shifting into a vegetarian diet for the past few months and already feel healthier. The meat industry is just so foul.
This!
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As someone who grew up on the MS Gulf Coast I want to mention that the beach there is disgusting and has been for as long as I can recall. Most of the time I lived there we were warned against swimming because of the dangerous bacteria in the water and even when there weren’t active warnings, the water was almost always brown and murky :(
Then you should have warned againsed the chemicals that are used to grow vegetables. That's what's killing the world, Not natural food.
Yeah I visited the beach in Texas, near the city of Houston. It was so murky, gross and angry looking.
I really enjoyed this video but I think it would be helpful to differentiate between a plant-based diet and veganism, which is a rights-based philosophy in opposition to the exploitation of human and non-human animals.
Keep up the great work.
The average person thinks plant based when they hear vegan.
Like they think of hazelnut nougat paste when the hear Nutella.
I also think it would have been helpful to give more consideration to the act of decreasing of animal product consumption rather than the elimination of it, as he kind of just brushed over that idea very quickly with a celebrity quote and then went through the rest of the video treating plant based diets as this all-or-nothing drastic solution. I eat animal products a few times a month as a treat and it is absolutely doable.
The problem isn't eating animal based products, the problem is that the animal based product industry has caused us to believe that we are entitled to unlimited and affordable access to animal products 3 meals a day plus snacks.
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sentient beings arent treats for you though@@DSS712
I am a simple man. I detest corruption in any context. Going vegan was easy for both me and for my future mother in law, whom I have not yet met. More of a struggle for her daughter, who had had a gastric ulcer. She lost weight too quickly and got bilestone, followed by jaundice. Took a while to recover from.
As a vegan, you're allowed medical exemptions to your lifestyle
@@JP-sm4csso glad you think so, not seeing nearly enough comments talking about how going vegan or vegetarian is not always possible due to disability and/or chronic illness.
do you know how many animals they shoot to sustain your vegan meals?
Yes , the need of the hour
This is so important. Honestly, the entire mode of capitalist production is equally ruthless in it's endless quest for profit maximization above all else. It doesn't have to be this way
Socialist production in Eastern Europe, Russia, China and any other socialist/communist country was equally bad. It was worse, because nobody cared for animals or environment.
Well just say the solution we all know. Meat must be a luxury and not affordable on an every day basis.
"A part" of a solution
@@weird-guy that doesn't create any more divide.
Changing the price doesn't effect the inequality that's already there.
Redistributing resources is the only way to fix that
I'm so torn between disliking this video for its obvious useless rant about veganism being "just a small step", "just a diet" and "consumerist" (all of which it absolutely isn't) and liking it because heck, all of these other considerations are still important.
Same. I think there are a lot of valuable things in the video, including the worry about focusing efforts on the imperial core and looking for more systemic solutions over individual ones, but for a channel that constantly speaks out against domination and injustice, I feel like they fell short on representing veganism and the benefits of a society reducing its animal consumption on the climate and environment.
@@FunkeyPhysicsMonkey Yes, the most important thing being that vegans are preoccupied with animal suffering… people often forget that humans qualify as animals too. Ultimately it’s also about ending human exploitation!
Choosing to eat flesh over plants would be equally unethical under any other economic mode of production.
Some imported nuts and avocados grown in monocultures in Mexico and Brazil and then transported on over 4000 kilometers in huge cargo ships killed way more organisms than me eating some meat grown in my own town and produced properly.
@@PG-3462 That's a lie. Go read the IPCC report.
@@PG-3462 eating local has very little impact on emissions according to scientific studies. Transport only accounts for a small amount of a foods total footprint.
@@PG-3462dude good miles account for like 6% of the total carbon emissions of food. This nuts will still have a lower carbon footprint than the cows in the field next to my house.
Your point about land use is valid, but look up the Oxford land use study. 76% reduction in farming land globally if we just stopped farming animals.
@@deemstars I see that You should go read the IPCC report. Nowhere does it says that we should all become vegan. It says that we should seek for "less resource-intensive diets". While they don't specify what a less resource-intensive diet is, with some simple logic we can see that they mean that we should stop relying on all forms of agriculture that consumes a lot of oil and all sorts of chemical fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides. This means that we should stop relying on ALL forms of monocultures/overproduction of any kind of food and on ALL forms of food imports, which are all very resource intensive ways of feeding ourselves.
And the only way to achieve this is to integrate animal and vegetal farming together. In this way, animals are fed with the by-products of vegetal farming and can live on some parcels of land in fallow, which will contribute to both reducing our need of artificial fertilizers and restore some habitats for small animals and insects, which will also help to sustain the entire foodchain and ecosystems.
In fact, in terms of agriculture, the IPCC report goes in the same direction as the type of agriculture I'm we should aim for, meaning that we should aim for an agricultural system that (copy/paste from the IPCC report) "could provide co-benefits such as improved biodiversity, soil quality, and local food security."
The IPCC then follows with:
"Options in the land sector comprise agricultural and forest options, sustainable diets and reduced food waste, soil sequestration and manure management"
This proves what I just stated earlier. By integrating vegetal and animal farming, we can reduce waste by using the by-products of our vegetal production to feed animals. This is the optimal way of doing agriculture in order to maximize the food productivity of our land without needing artificial fertilizers, which are becoming a scarce resource by the way (go look at the world's phosphate exploitable reserves...)
as a vegan I'm always greatful to you speaking up for animals and climate, now I'm going to share this video and your channel as much as i can😌
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It seens to me that you only care for ckicens, cows and pigs, any other animal crueltiy is ok by you them? Veganism is not animal cruelty free food, know this.
Much like alcoholics, I had to totally abstain from animal agriculture. At first, I only tried to eat mostly plant-based... but I kept making excuses and relapsing hard. I would compromise for other people, then they would keep pushing further and I lacked the integrity to say no even to my own urges. This is why I recommend going vegan. Having a clear line and accountability from the vegan community helps. Accepting vegan ethics and spirituality into my paradigm was transformational to my well-being.
Exactly what pushed me into veganism three months ago after two years “plant-based”!
Yep I think the ethics are key…if we understand that by eating meat and dairy, we’re supporting the abuse and slaughter of animals that want to live and can feel joy and pain, then it might be easier to become and remain vegan
Its definitely easier when you don't see animals as food anymore but see them as equals to our companion animals. They have a nose to smell, eyes to see, ears to hear, lungs to breathe, a heart to beat, and a brain to experience life as well as to process pain and suffering or joy. No different than our pets which we love and adore
Veganism is at first an ethical position. One that barely has any legitimate counter arguements.
I haven’t heard a successful counter argument yet
@@vietnamd0820my taste buds tho....
Lol
@@vietnamd0820 There are some, but they are mostly ones that are only valid for certain individuals and not for society as a whole.
Some people, indeed, have genes that don't allow the conversion of nutrients found in plants to vital micronutrients that can't be found in plants at all and are not easy/accessible to supplement. Also some people have severe allergies, which make a plant based diet literally impossible as long as there are no necessary supplements or medications. But one might argue, if they try to eat as plant based as possible, that they are stil 'vegan' by definition.
Also for certain places on earth its not yet realiziable and we can't deny that our production chains can't be transformed from one day to another.
Well, yes. But this a video about if veganism is the solution to climate change. Not a video about veganism itself.
"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
We reduced our meat consumption by 95% years ago. On rare occasions we eat some regional meat from organic farms or from regional game.
Our motif is primarily ecological, secondarily concerning animal ethics.
I think an important note about the contributions of GHG from the animal agriculture industry cited in this video is that it's the _minimum_ estimate. This means that the researchers have been cutting out as many uncertain factors as possible to arrive at a number that they can claim with very high certainty. The actual number is very likely to be higher, but if it's 17% or 20% is gonna require a lot of "it depends" arguments.
Absolutely. The world watch institute states that "at least 51%" of all anthropogenic greenhouse gases comes from animal ag
Eating meat, dairy and eggs is exploitation.
Tasty delicious succulent exploitation 😁
so is eating anything else - eating meat is just extremely inefficient and destructive exploitation due to factory farming
PS: the destructive part is due to factory farming - meat is inefficient by default, since there is a massive energy loss in the process of growing especially large animals
@@SharienGaming How can you say growing animals are inefficient when they have been growing just fine for millions of years?
And you seem to misunderstand that there is no factory farming of animals because they are not raised in factories. Those pictures are feedlots that occurs at the end of life.
@@kayc7442 because inefficiency at scale has a much bigger impact than in smaller numbers?
to get 2 units of energy from meat, you need to put in 100 units of energy from plants... thats a 2% conversion rate... thats how inefficient it is
there are a load of things that have been fine for millions of years, but are becoming problematic when you suddenly scale it up massively... like burning coal to fuel heaters and forges in a bunch of villages and small cities might be fine... but when you start burning a thousand times as much to fuel an ever growing industry the effect becomes much much more dire
or for example when a few fishers fish every day from a lake the fish population easily recovers... when a dozen trawlers run through the lake every day the fish population may get completely wiped out
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I get that neither the World nor the Earth care about my pantry, but I still need to sleep at night -- thus I'm still vegan. (And carless, and buy 100% green power etc.)
"for every 100kcal we receive 2kcal from beef" I didn't know that , shocking.
I loved this video! I just want to add that from what I've seen, consumers have a massive impact on industry. I understand that we shouldn't put all responsibility on consumers, but things won't change until people change and demand what they want. For example, with most people cutting down on dairy, dairy-free alternatives have become very popular in coffee shops, there are so many plant milk options available at grocery stores and dairy farms have had to shut down in Canada. We can't expect everyone to go 100% vegan, but these small changes are making a real difference!
100% agree. The decline of the dairy industry in the past few decades is a Pearce too example of consumer changes making differences. I think this can be done with meat as well
Politicians could make laws to change the industry. But they don't and we can't count on them most of the time.
It's up to the individual and communities at this point.
Consumers have almost no impact on animal agriculture. "Supply and demand" is a fantasy in a system that is built to be fail-proof via goverment bailouts, subsidies, insurance, propaganda... Even with more people making vegan choices, meat and cheese production is still record high.
Thank you for doing this video. Veganism is indeed a massive part of fixing the climate crisis. As an Indian born in Africa, I must say it's extremely easy to be a Vegan. As Indians we have practiced Vegetarianism for 3000 years as a core part of Hinduism; and in Africa our diets were predominately plant based because meat is very expensive. Hopefully more people will get the memo and we can avert the floods, forest fires, etc that we're witnessing as a result of the climate crisis.
in western countries governments are propping up the meat industry with subsidies so that it continues and people can afford it. I wish people couldn't afford meat here
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As someone who loves Indian and African food (at least all the ones I’ve tried from various regions and countries) I would not find it hard mentally or taste-wise to be vegan or vegetarian. My issue is medically I can’t not have meat due to the insane protein I need, lol. Yaaay chronic illness. 😂
But ya, if medically I could, Indian and African food cultures would make it so easy.
I wanted to casually watch this but had to grab a pen and start making notes! Love how informative your videos are. Thank you for all the good work that you do.
He always does so much research for these videos, I have to watch at home with no distractions lol
how about this for facts children have both stunted growth and a rising obesity
yet African nations still lag behind on achieving this, losing between 1.9% and 16% of the gross domestic product annually to under-nutrition due to increased mortality, absenteeism, chronic illnesses, and lost productivity.
Even with expanding economies, increased food production and mounting food waste, for many Africans, that hasn’t translated into the provision of healthy nutrients and food necessary for growth.
flower products dont promote healthy brains . sugar isnt an energy source
Another amazing, important and disturbing video! Thanks for the great content!
Honestly, this was a rough video to research and write-- so much gruesome articles and papers to read
@@OurChangingClimate Appreciate the work you've done in all your videos, this one included! I like when you get to possible solutions near the end of the videos. That's important for people to not feel all hopeless about change. I wonder if you have researched the One Small Town initiative with Michael Tellinger? It really resonates with me after you said we need to build "solidarity and coalitions" because that's very much what the One Small Town initiative is set up to do. Localized, town by town community cooperatives, but sharing strategies and knowledge among other communities. So we are not alone, but we work towards progress in our own towns and benefit from the collective knowledge all around us.
Excellent video! It’s challenging to sit at the same table with people who have different levels of acceptable suffering in the world. But the only way we can build tomorrow is together. 💪
It's not cow farts that emit methane, but cow's burps: a cow must digest high fibre food, and has 4 stomachs. The digestive process is slow and ... cows therefore burp a lot!
Always going to be vegan for the animals
I don't care if animals are destroying envoirnment or not (which they do btw). It is just not ethical or moral to slaughter living beings for no reason.
I mean… there is a reason. To eat them.
@@Noctem_pasa But you DON'T have to eat them. If you are poor I would agree more with you (Even though Vegetables and plants generally and fruits are cheaper than meat) But I guess you are a working class person with low mid income or mid income. Even if you are low income I would say that vegan diet would be cheaper for you
@@erik_havoc eating a holistic, healthy diet without eating chemical garbage isn’t exactly affordable, it’s a sliding spectrum of nutritious, affordable, and not destroyed by chemicals which makes this problem less simplistic than you imply. Humans do in fact eat meat for a reason, and meat is still the most effective way of getting specific nutrients such as vitamin b12, creatine, and d3. That’s to say nothing of modern meat production and the widespread overconsumption of meat disproportionately in the global north, which is anything but natural and has no place in society. But the killing of animals for utility is something that long predates us, both in society and in nature, and to reduce that to “killing for no reason” is reductive imo
@@Noctem_pasa All u said about nutritions is not true. You know what is the most effective way to get B12 or D3? Supplements! It basically takes 10 seconds to take those if you of course have money. And before you will say that it is chemistry and not food like meat, cows and other livestock animals are heavily suplemented with antibiotics. You don't have to buy meat replecments like beyond meat or impossible meat or stuff like that which are expensive. Generally vegetables, fruits and stuff that are basics ARE CHEAP. Meat isn't the most nutrient dense food even tofu has more nutrients in 100 grams than beef or chicken and tofu is cheaper. Idk where u live but if you live outside of USA in europe or country with easily affordable vegetablesand supplements you have bright af green light to being vegan.
@@erik_havoc where do you think those supplements come from when not imbued via chemistry? It’s either from chemistry or derived from animal byproducts. And besides, not all meat is riddled with antibiotics, it’s not inherent to meat diets. I’m not saying plants aren’t nutritious, I’m saying meat or meat byproduct supplements are important to a balance of specific nutrients, and to get those nutrients from a plant based diet isn’t viable for many
Thank you for making this available to see without a further gatekeeper expense. I am trying to dropout as much as I can from what is so troubling such as diet and the owning and use of private transportation. ☮
I'm glad we started to talk about it. It becomes more and more normal to include vegan diet into our lives.
Before the video starts, I am going to make a prediction about the answer to the title question:
No, it is not. Carbon sequestration infeasability, chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and habitat destruction being the biggest reasons why.
[EDIT]: OK, so I was partly correct. I was right, but only on about half of my points. It is indeed not the only solution, but only because it's not the only solution. It is still a solution, but it needs to be enacted alongside other solutions.
You should also check out veganic gardening and permaculture. Monocropping isn't the only way to be vegan.
Consumer solutions won't change the bulk of the problems which are all coming from large corporations. Until large corporations can no longer own and control our governments nothing will change. It is a myth that all these consumer choices can add up enough to make a difference. it's going to take a difference in government and laws so let's focus our attention there.
It's great to make better choices for ourselves in our own lives but let's not fool ourselves like that's changing the corporation's behavior. That's like pissing in the ocean to warm it up.
People always forget that almost anyone lives in a community and your choices affect how other people react. Me going vegan affected at least 2 people going vegan, 2 more going vegetarian & a lot of people reconsidering their animal product consumption. And if these people also affect other people you have a snowball effect
19:40 that's absolute nonsense. A meatless society is a society with less suffering period. Third world countries should definitely transition out of it, but we should start by changing ourselves first, we're the primary culprits anyway. Afterwards you can talk imperialism all you want.
Westoid
We should also note that veganism and forms of vegetarianism have been practiced in certain cultures (buddhist, jain, hindu etc) for centuries if not millennia. So it is not necessarily something imperial or exclusive. Veganism itself can hold all those cultural value to some people. The west neither discovered nor has a monopoly on veganism.
feels like you mixed up plant based diet and veganism sometimes... but its going in the right direction so I guess it still helps
Also just want to add that it's not possible for everyone to switch to plant based. As someone with a medical issue that makes it very hard for me to absorb the stuff I need from food and deal with intense pain from eating, sometimes the only "safe", easily digestible, and readily available food is chicken. So when it's phrased that veganism is the only solution, or people are shamed for not going plant based, it's not always because they don't care.
the future is vegan
No, if we're talking about meat.
Lab grown meat IS the future, and it's here, but not widespread.
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@@Real_Eggman
Labs processing/equipment needed are and will be too expensive.
Meat grown this way doesn't have structure, so your meal choices will be limited.
@jukaa1012
The future is Vegan…
because without Veganism…
there is no future.
❤
@@Real_Eggman Lab grown meat is vegan.
One of the big downsides of climate change is that with more extreme weather conditions, it's an excellent chance for corporations and governments to say, "oh, the poor farmers, we must support them and their industry!". This generally seems to lead to government funding and charity to keep farms producing meat or other crops to produce meat
Almost five year vegan, never felt better! I urge anyone just thinking about it to try it for a month or so, you will discover new favorite dishes and resturans as well! All good in the hood.
"We are alienated from the very things we put in our mouth. As a result it's hard to care about the impact of a feedlot on the environment or the workers within a slaughterhouse when you're halfway across the world eating something that looks nothing like an animal". Very well said. As a vegetarian I find it puzzling when people are surprised and have to constantly justify the killing of animals for food when I tell them I don't eat meat. I don't think it's difficult to think and feel of the pain that these animals have to go through. But people seem to be so alienated and so cut off from this fact, perhaps because they're too used and accustomed to eating meat.
Do you realize that dairy cows and egg laying hens are slaughtered (at fractions of their natural lifespans) for their meat too, as well as all of the males that are bred into existence that serve no purpose to both those industries? These are necessary components of these industries in order for them to be economically viable. I encourage you to watch a video of what happens to baby male chicks.
@@skylermikalson6159 I'm aware of that. I don't consume dairy either. But I still consume eggs for personal reasons which yes in the eyes of veganism, it's always wrong. But for now I only consume eggs when I have to. But if there's a choice I'll always avoid eggs.
It could be a matter of blindness to the suffering. But I don't think it is. People already know about how dirty, and brutal the meat industry is on the animals. They just don't care because they aren't convinced animals can comprehend suffering. It's not hard for people to fall into justification when they feel there's nothing wrong going on.
Vegans are going to have to move their arguments away from talks of exploitation and into validating animals as sapient creatures to other people, because that's the real bottleneck.
I want to explain something about the "consumer-driven action is ineffective" argument in regards to animal foods. Generally I agree with this statement. As consumers, we can "vote with our dollar" by buying more ethical products and avoiding less ethical ones, but this generally doesn't exert much change on the system, because these things need to be regulated at the production end, which is where all the power is.
But food is a commodity unlike other consumables. Food is constantly in demand. Everyone needs to eat, several times per day. It's not like buying clothes, or a car, or a phone, where purchases are more infrequent and the industry has to use advertising to create demand and entice people to buy their product. Food (in general, not talking about any specific food) needs no marketing. Demand is constant.
Food is a zero sum game. If you don't eat one type of food, you will eat another. If you don't eat animal based foods, you will by necessity eat plant based foods. This means that if a company doesn't provide you with plant based foods, you will go to their competitor. They will *necessarily* lose that share in the market, and their competitor will be advantaged. I drink soy milk instead of dairy milk. I will *never* buy dairy milk. I only ever buy plant-based milk. The dairy industry has lost my custom, and the soy milk industry has gained it. (Notice that this effectively doubles your vote - you're both supporting plant industries and penalising animal industries.)
Food is lucrative business. More people going vegan represents substantial loss to the animal agriculture industry. This loss cannot be recouped by encouraging increased consumption of the animal based product. Most people are already drinking their ideal quantity of milk. They're already buying the amount that they want to drink. You can't get people to, say, double their milk purchases, because it will just go off. It's not like buying a pair of jeans, where you can buy more and just stuff them in your closet. The *only* thing a company can do to capture those lost profits is to provide a plant based product.
Hence, going vegan is more powerful than most people realise.
Just quickly, I cannot help but bring up the cruelty issue. The suffering that these animals go through is horrific. Truly sickening. Things like being thrown alive into boiling water, having pieces of their bodies cut off without any pain relief and stuffed into cages the size of their bodies, so they cannot move for months or even years on end. These are industry standard practices, and they must be stopped.
I hate that you guys missed the mark on the ideology behind Veganism, but I'm so glad that the same information that vegans have held signs and marched in protests surrounding the environmental impacts of animal-based foods, has finally gained the credence that it deserves. People have been slandered, stalked, harassed, jailed, beaten and killed for challenging these corporations - corporations that actively seek out scientists to create flawed-design studies that favor their industries, just to create enough doubt in the consumer so that they can continue with growing their bottom line. I suspect that the growing climate crisis will increasingly bring plant-centered diets to the forefront of the discussion, and we can all get on the same page. Although, we've lost our voices, either literally in protest or from anti-vegan keyboard warriors, it feels good to be heard; I just hope we can still make the impact we need. Because man wouldn't it be a shame. A solution so simple, but our concerns of cultural traditions and emotions trumped the survival of most species on Earth (in the long run). We shall see.
Thank you for using your platform to talk about such an important way of reducing animal suffering, worker exploitation, and our environemtnal impact. Such an amazing channel! Will definitely be recommending it and showing other people your videos.
Veganism isn't just consumer dietary spending habits. It can range all the way to something like radical direct action against factory farms. Just like climate activism includes destruction of gas pipelines. This video was mostly a semantic debate.
You can try. It's hard to find willing martyrs ready to face years of imprisonment for the cause.
@@vylbird8014 again, I'm just pointing out that it is semantics being debated here, not veganism itself
I know that this was already mentioned by lots of people in the comments, but veganism is not a diet, nor a lifestyle, it is an ethical and political position against animal cruelty in all forms, that impacts our way of consumption in a capitalist society. We could say that the lower carbon foot emissions from a plant-based diet, it's a byproduct of that ethical position.
I imagine there is a lot of content on the internet that considers "veganism" (plant-based diets) as the ultimate solution to climate change, and being a vegan for years myself, I rarely find such content. But IMO, and looking at the obvious statistics, it's still more effective than using metal straws and recycling.
A plant-based diet is not fixing the root cause of climate change, but neither are famous activists or campaigns or speeches from governments from the Global North. However, its presence it's important to question not just the causes of the climate crisis, but also question the oldest oppression system in History: speciesism.
I buy all my goods directly from farmers, which is not a luxury in the tropical country I live in. I know that buying fresh goods in other geographies is considered a luxury, but not here, and not in many places of the Global South. Why do I mention this? because of the erroneous idea that veganism is only possible when you're privileged and rich.
Hasta que todas las jaulas estén vacías.
Even though i don't eat meat, i eat food like chips, bread, and oatmeal. And switching to veganism is hard for me because i can't separate from those foods.
Yeah, it's like wanking, innit?
Those foods are usually vegan.
"The choice is no longer between violence and non violence. It is a choice between violence and survival."
- Rev. Dr. King.
Being vegan is the easiest thing ive done
Man isn't made to be vegan, the human race is the same as everything else on this planet. In orner to live there must be death, you can't avoid it. All things must die.
Your very lucky
It is easy for me too. I dont see animals as food which makes it very easy to not eat them!
Yeah wasting 4 hours everyday to prepare meals so easy
@@amanthatthinks i dont do that
For those getting the wrong message, INDIVIDUAL ACTION IS COLLECTIVE ACTION if many people do it. If you demoralise others or excuse yourself from individual action, you're also disrupting collective action.
Getting solar, joining a protest, voting, pressuring systems to change, gardening, organising, or eating less meat are all individual actions that become collective because everybody's doing it. The more people who do it, the easier it is for more people yet to join.
If everybody waits for each other to go first, we have no action. Thanks to those who don't wait, we have collective action. There's no such thing as literally only one person acting.
Wouldn't collective action be more like industrial sabotage?
One scene that has always stuck with me but I never see it mentioned anywhere, is in What The Health. It’s the part where all the people living around the pig farm that are getting sick. Meat eaters act like they don’t care about the animals, but do they also not care about their fellow humans?
What do you think are the 5 best books to read about ecology/environnementalism/ecological philosophy ?
Stop eating animals. Do the bare minimum for the climate and the animals needlessly suffering.
There are many compelling reasons to boycott animal products.
1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get the most common chronic, deadly diseases)
2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases
3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen.
4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons of water every year!
5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution
6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation
7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses. Workers in meat packing facilities often endure terrible, dangerous working conditions.
8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity
9-Needless killing of innocent, sentient beings cannot be ethically justified.
10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation.
11- Longer lifespan.
12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.)
13- A healthy plant based diet significantly reduces the chances of ED later in life, and even 1 meal can improve bedroom performance
14- Vegetarians and vegans have lower rates of dementia later in life
15- A plant based diet could save money! You could reduce your food budget by one third!
16-A fully plant based diet improves the immune system according to a study published in the journal BMJ Nutrition Prevention & Health
17-A fully plant based food system would greatly reduce food borne illnesses like salmonella
18-A fully plant based food system would be able to feed millions more people. Our population is growing!
19-A fully plant based food system would save 13,000 lives a year from the air pollution caused by animal agriculture, according to a study
20- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1 trillion in health care and related costs (Oxford Study)
Links for some of these are at my channel under "About."
If you doubt any of them, I would be glad to cite evidence from credible sources to back them up. TH-cam only allows a certain number of links at my channel.
After I made my list, I found this video with his own list which overlaps mine. He cites evidence from credible sources in the description.
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i really think on an individual level the focus should be on promoting REDUCING meat consumption and animal products rather than ELIMINATING it. saying "don't eat meat" scares people off but saying "eat less meat" scares less people off. people generally aren't ready to give up meat entirely but a lot of them will be willing to give up meat for a day or two every week.
working conditions in factory farms, slaughter houses and meat packing plants are absolutely horrifying. literal nightmare fuel. it can't keep going like that.
For me, a balance is key. I loooove curries, so instead of using X amount of meat, I halve that, add more veggies and make more sauce. So instead of having 1 meal from that meat, I can stretch it out to four. I do live somewhere where localmeat is stil local and even so I felt like we were eating too much.
Supply is only sustained by demand no matter how large the supplier. It is simple to go vegan for 99% of us, particularly given the fact that a plant based diet has been shown to be cheaper. The same cannot be said for avoiding all use of fossil fuels, that is dependent upon control of the suppliers or government.
Historically, the reason people who lived far from the tropical regions of the world embraced a meat-based diet was because food plants can't grow at those latitudes year round. Even today, to maintain a healthy vegan diet requires significant energy expenditure on transportation, canning or freezing vegan foods. Relying on vegetables and fruits that can be stored over winter would reduce the variety and quality of plant-based diets.
One thing we could do is agressively make meat production less profitable. If more people could preserve meat into dehydrated jerky, less meat would go to waste and the price would be forced to go down, and meat industry decision makers will have to purchase less calves and piglets.
No solution is complete without us aligning out actions with our morals of non-harm.
Don't understand the wishy washy messaging around veganism. Speaking as a socialist, the form of economy is irrelevant to meat consumption. Regardless of if we shift from a capitalist economy or not as long as people desire meat, the system will come up with a way to produce it and there are really no efficient ways of producing meat.
Wish you had a bit more courage to be forthright about the messaging and not give climate change concerned people easy excuses to consume meat.
Good video in general. You raise some interesting broader points about the system that perpetuates animal ag.
Maybe not the definitive answer, but it’s ONE of the answers. We need MANY answers and many methods to eradicate this by the time my generation is old and gray.
People will constantly argue solutions but often only care about themselves and their groups or they forget to look at long term effects and solutions. What i try to show is that we need to constantly adapt to our current situations on the planet, i think most of us are aware. My comments below go into more detail but i thought i would add this as it's a good argument against those who fight these concepts. Other arguments are won below in my other comments but in general people do not like change or being told to change.
There is no solution....
There's a lot we can try though.
Every solution ever has led to newer bigger problems.
That's the story of technology.
No reason not to try though!
My favorite aside from veganism is MEER Reflection Project
there is no better alternative than veganism. but yes one can ADD other habits (vote etc).
though you should have frame things more structurally by naming the non-vegan stance: carnism. explaining its structure etc.
veganism makes things cheaper, healthier, less imperialist, less dominions/exploitation, more logical, more ecological (one health model etc), less finacially risky (price of food/energy tied to carnism etc).
Many of the worse thing for our species are tied with carnism it predate capitalism (pandemics, deforestation etc).
While in our current society that overconsumes meat being vegan is indeed very good because it helps society as a whole to consume less meat, everyone becoming vegan is NOT the optimal way of doing agriculture.
In reality, integrating animal and vegetal farming like it was done in the past is the optimal and most sustainable way of doing agriculture.
All industrial monocultures are extremely damaging for the environment, so the fact of switching from the overproduction of meat to the overproduction of other types of food like avocadoes and nuts that then need to be shipped away on thousands of kilometers in huge cargo ships is definitively not any good for the environment.
For the billions of people who live in cold, semi-arid or mountainous regions, meat will also always remain part of the best way of producing food in their respective region.
Nah, the guy needed a "but veganism isn't perfect" argument to comfort his carnist audience and promote the status quo. I highly suspect he is non-vegan himself.
@@discursion Or maybe he isn't an extremist and thus understands that the world we live in is more complex than you think.
@@discursion congratulations - you are making progress on your quest of turning people who generally aligned with your goal into your declared enemies... rather than utilizing commonalities to push for a common goal, like ending factory farming... you declared them your enemies instead... im sure this is how you get enough support to actually reach the goal... purity checks are always a healthy attitude...
I disagree. Eating ethically & regeneratively pasture raised meat and eggs is fine.
As someone who was literally born vegan: Very interesting video. A lot of this is centered around the imperial core, but that makes sense. I do want to raise a few points:
1. Humans lived and hunted animals 100,000s years before climate change ever became a problem. Afaik though the difference was volume? I seem to recall seeing studies that showed humans are a much more plant centric diet. Meat wasn't 100% out but animals were left to do what they do and hunted for food (mostly smaller animals), similar to other primates such as chimpanzees. So it IS possible to live in a world that isn't being destroyed and not restrict our diets. We did it before for many thousands of years.
2. You touched upon this little bit but the danger of "imperialism" type ethics is high when it comes to this. The fact is some countries don't have the same level of guilt when it comes to animals. In India, a huge visible majority is vegetarian if not vegan. And while Indian meat dishes exist they're much less common and some animals like cows are straight up banned in some regions.
3. WHAT about other animals, other forms of obtaining meat like hunting of smaller animals? What about regions of the world where not a lot of plants grow for extended periods without extensive technological help, which may come with it's own "climate demons". I genuinely don't know but is hunting rabbits too much worse than getting legumes and fruits either shipped from Florida or whatever or frozen for months?
There isn't really anything new in this video I did not already know, but every video helps.
Every climate change denier watching this will argue the solution is pasture-raised farms and they aren't likely to go watch the video on another platform. I will and I hope it mentions that most of the cow pastures today are on deforested land. There's this false perception that pastures and prairies are all native but the actual native grazing lands are naturally low yielding. Regions with more rainfall and faster vegetation growth are more forested while the great plains are more arid. Irrigation turns the plains into great land for crops. While grazing cattle are more profitable on deforested land in rainy climates. If that land was converted back to forests, the carbon capture would be massive... and that isn't factored into any of the climate models. So, while a deforested pasture is more biodiverse than monocrops... forests are radically more diverse than deforested pastures. We need a government initiative to pay farmers to become land managers reforesting their land. A carbon capture incentive program that people and private companies could help fund... which already exists in some capacity.
You give the deniers too much credit. They'll come up with something far stupider than that.
As an actual vegan I can say that you got a lot wrong when it comes to what veganism actually is. But you got sooooo much right about the environment and how destructive our current global food systems are. Everything about animal agriculture is ineffective. And even regenerative farming is not a solution when looking at demand. Which should be something you totally understand. You don’t need to be a vegan to stop exploiting animals for food. You just need to stop buying animal products to eat. Demand drives supply. And on a final note. You can still have thanksgiving and Christmas and many other culturally relevant events while following a plant only diet. (And there aren’t vegan levels of good or bad. Either you are a vegan or you are not.)
As another vegan for the animals, I whole heartedly agree
There are still some arguments to that can be made about the environmental issues of the meat industry:
-You mentioned that 77% of argicutural land are used for the meat industry but the majority of it are marginal lands. These land made up about 2/3 of all agricultural land
-You mentioned how 100 KC are feed to cows, we only get 2KC out. But the majority of the 100KC we feed cows are actually human in-edible because they are things like corn husk, stalks, dried grass, pasture grasses, almonds hulls, etc. So what is actually happening is cows are upscaling the things we can't eat to highly nutritional meats.
- I disagree with the methane argument since that methane are a part of a natural cycle. In which the methane break down to CO2 in the atmostphere and naturally follow the carbon cycle. Also, the global mean of 14% green-house gases, are not considering the regional specific. In the US, it is only 4% of the total US emissions. I'm not saying that the US is very ineffecient or anything. But with that number of 4%, realistically only 10% of Amercia would go vegan. That meant a 0.4% decrease in the US total emissions which is a very minor change. On the other hand, something like use of fossil fuels or transportation haves solutions like nuclear reactors, public transport, bikes, etc. They would make a much more impactful change. So, I don't think attacking the meat industry for climate changes is not the right reason way to do it.
Otherwise, your arguement about capitalism in corelation to the meat industry environmentals and ethical issues are one of the best arguments out there.
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An interesting fact: 36% of mammalian biomass is humans, 60% is livestock and only 4% is wildlife. 10,000 years ago, humans only accounted for 1% of mammalian biomass.
We've come a long way
So does meat production under communism not cause problems?
And why would corporations who control production, produce the same amounts if there was no consumer demand?
There usually isn't much food production under communism at all.
Thank for this video. You make some good points although I would've liked to see the points about packaging earlier on in the video. I noticed from some of the comments that not everyone watched all the video(I did). What a shame they didn't. I stopped eating meat in the 1980s and my mother made sure I knew about nutrition. No processed meat alternatives available back then. I have cut down my dairy consumption in the last 5 years and try to regularly make our meals vegan.
Amazing video, mate. I was wondering why you didn't mention this topic in your last video, now I know it was because you were cooking a whole video for it.