I think they're generally really fckn careful when it comes to buffing ball. This buff feels like that. Especially since they were maybe expecting ball to already be more dominant with the sombra changes. So anyway, we may see more tiny buffs like this in the future til one of them suddenly puts him over the edge.
No. This is a pure on paper buff. I think they saw the critics (maybe coming from yeatle fall of ball video) and now they needed to change something. Like in 2 situations in this video the buff secured a kill. They want a ram/sig meta now and thats why they gave ball no big changes. I kinda see dive meta in s8 again, they will give sig in mid s7 a small buff like with ram and this will it.
blizzard loves doing weird microbuffs and you are exactly historically accurate, there will be a microbuff that makes him meta but we are like, at least 4 or 5 away from that (if the buffs stay the same size)
I'm not totally convinced that sombra doesn't still screw ball. As far as I can tell, a full clip and virus actually does a tiny bit more than hacking and dumping a full clip into ball used to do, so I think if she just sits in her team and does nothing but deny ball, I think she can still give him a lot of trouble. She's definitely easier to kill now, and also easier to keep track of, so that's still better, at a minimum. I would love to hear more opinions though since I'm plat and don't really understand everything about the sombra-ball matchup.
Basically what pibble said, you don't even have to leave your team to deal with sombra anymore. Ball won the 1v1 against sombra easily, the problem before was that you had to look for specific downtime to chase sombra or look for trans, now you don't have to. Sombra herself wasn't even a counter to ball before, they both soft countered each other, however, now you actually get to play with your team more when there is an enemy sombra, meaning you have more uptime and more value. Hack was easy to cancel or bait out, you just couldn't punish sombra as easily before because she could tp to safety. Spy checking is also significantly better, since she can't tp to safety as easily or go invis whenever she wants. If you are actively chasing sombra, by the time she throws her trans, you know exactly where she will be and you will have grapple available to chase her or spy check where she tp'd to, again, without leaving your team entirely. Good ball players aren't actually scared of sombra, they are scared of chain cc's, which is a different issue entirely. Since she isn't tping to health packs anymore, she has to actively leave her team and do nothing if she wants to deny megas from you. The damage output from sombra is also negated by the fact ball does slightly more damage to her now, with his improved accuracy, which matters more on smaller targets. This change is an absolute win for ball players and I probably haven't even mentioned every reason as to why. Hope this helps. -Ball player
straight fax. having no other choice to hunt for a tiny object somewhere in the dangerous enemy side of the map by yourself had way too much risk and small reward
@@cagxplays9602 I'm not concerned about the 1v1, like you said ball always won that, but sombras used to be able to translocate away to safety. This meant that good sombra players used to hide translocator, hunt for ball, get some easy ult charge, and leave. Now sombras can't do that and that's good. But good sombras will realize that, and what I'm afraid of now is if the sombra camps near her supports or whoever you plan to dive, and just hack you on every piledrive. You used to be able to punish that by hunting translocator, but now there's no option to do that. I don't think good sombra players will seek out ball like they used to, good sombra players will play defensively near her team and stop every engagement.
I still think a tiny CC resistance buff was the way to go with ball. Just replace the 100 guaranteed overhealth from adaptive shield with a 75-100 health spherical shield, like a Zarya bubble; you'd block cheap CCs like hack or hinder, whilst still remaining vulnerable to melee CCs, like bask or punch. Not to mention the shield, being on top of his health stack, would be the first thing depleted, so you'd only get a split-second window to use it to block CCs.
I think kit-wise Sombra is so much more easy to "deal with", but it's takin me a little time to adjust because now she just does a lot of burst damage very quick. The bullet damage increase + virus was a little more dmg than I expected
Sombra rework makes her great against supports and dps. Fucking love that she's not an instant win pick against Doom and ball anymore but shes also more powerful hanging back the team since hack is still strong.
Above all else, healers still just have so much impact that you can have 3 people at 20 hp and they're suddenly all full HP a moment later because a support looked in their general direction
Ball was alraeady goated. I had a 64% winrate with him the last two seasons. Hes my main. This season after 12 games, I won 11 with him and it felt so easy. I could shoot pharas out of the sky. I hope they don't kill him in this midseason patch but I see it coming.
Random thought. Give ball Zen's kick. Have the little hamster punch some dude in the mouth to push them away so you can keep rolling if they are too close lmao
The thing about ball is that it feels like he's immortal unless you cc him which is the one moment you can dump enough damage into him to get the kill. Less cc is good for the game but when a ball gets low & he instantly gets a crap ton of shield health I wonder how I'll even kill him without a sleep or a hinder or smth.
Instant or nearly instant fireball when you grapple would be a game changer. Really dumb how a giant metal sphere can be blocked by a 110 pound British lez
New sombra kinda feels like ow1 ball tbh. I’ve been playing her h th is season and she’s actually fun now. I still miss using techs and high mechanics to move around, but her playstyle feels kind of like ow1 ball
Upping his damage from 5-1.5 (at 15-25m range) to 5.5-1.5 would have been a bigger change.Or changing the range falloff to 15-30m. Instead we got this weird 1% buff instead of a 5-10% buff like most heroes they aren't afraid of get when they need help :P
22:23 I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT DAMAGE and i was so upset cause i was just about to hit nade on myself, but the damage maaaaaaan. was such a bad game from me and that on yt shet
Buff's weird but I guess if ball needs a buff what can you really tweak? More survivability would be insane, mobility is already great, damage is already quite high. Would be nice if his ammo went up to 90 or 100.
A slight damage buff to his guns (it's not that high, most of his damage comes from rolls and pd's), a very short cc immunity ability, no body blocking, a smaller hitbox, a fireball buff (something like cc immunity or the ability to actually break things like junk trap in fireball), an actual knockback reduction passive (ball goes FLYING from regular boops), or the ability to knock back tanks, would have worked, but we take what we can get. No ball is ever actually shooting enough to need 100 bullets, because sitting still to shoot is how you get cc'd. There is plenty of small adjustments that could have been made and have been suggested, but the devs don't care to listen to ball players. Even just one of these changes would have made ball actually viable, without making him ridiculously op. Sorry if that was hard to read, I'm tired.
@@cagxplays9602no body blocking wouldn’t work but lessening the size of it while in ball form would help alot since a character like lucio could somehow bodyblock some doors and prevents even using the hook to knock them
@@gabeitch5578 I don't necessarily disagree, but if they want to leave it the way it is, a micro buff for ball is the only option to making him properly viable. There needs to be counter play to chain stuns at the very least.
what if ramming into enemies gave shield and dropping on them dispersed the shield as damage and they gave him a small projectile that bounces in arcs towards the direction its shot
I'll never understand why companies feel the need to add such large sun glare to FPS games. It's not a single player atmospheric RPG, its a competitive shooter.
Ball "buff" is a joke - but my money is on them not wanting to do anything big with the Sombra rework coming through. As a matter of fact, all the balance changes were tiny little baby changes (has there ever been a set of smaller adjustments on like 9 characters in a patch?) If they were to buff ball..it probably won't be this season since Hog's rework is coming. Season 8 has Mauga so probably no buffs there either. But season 9 boys. That is the season of ball. The Sombra rework is actually a buff to tanks - Doom still has it rough with her, but her dmg on Ball is def lower now. Old hack into left click was something like 700 total damage if she emptied a clip and hit all shots (which wasn't hard on ball.) Now it's around 600 for a full clip + virus in the same time period, but she is much more at risk so will often be shooting from farther away probably meaning it's closer to 500 or 400 in reality (before she had no fear to just point-blank your ass.) He sums up every ball's experience at around 33 minutes - "If I have no counters, I never die. If they have 2 counters, I'm useless" And counters are mostly just CC characters. Just give ball lower heatlh but CC resistance already.
how are people feeling this buff? games have gone surprisingly pretty chill for me but I cant tell if its just anecdotal evidence with low sample size or not. Sombra feels a lot less annoying to fight but I cant tell if thats just because people haven't figured her out yet. I dont think the gun changes are that big but the meta shift in general feels pretty cool
Mei is just another reaper to ball, always has been. She's someone else's problem so you deal with her last or do your best to mitigate her value where you can by applying pressure and avoiding getting shot/slowed.
All this time we’ve been saying we need more bullets or our bullets need to hit a little harder when really our bullets need to go a little straighter.
They raised the skill ceiling of ball with the spread change. You're used to larger spread, so you're missing more. Gotta improve the aim to see it help out.
0:50 ish - I really dont understand the map changes sometimes on Blizzard's heads Who thought that a Bright ass sun... Just perfectly on the way of an opening would be a great idea I myself play on console and i already have hated the fact that most games allow pc's to have more customized options even some adding game changing ones like All shadows On/Off or Graphic settings changing them to see better at day/Night its literally unfair as a console player as then im most of the time stuck on the default settings customized for the console even though i like it more bright at night and less bright at day But damn i also dont underatand the constant 3d movement thing its imo trash as it takes longer to do a left right left right movement then on a keyboard or mouse if you are some type of monster But back to the topic Blizzard just has the most random ass dedicated updates that no one wanted 😂
Still don’t understand why sombra needed a rework? Rework should have included getting rid of hack since it’s the most OP ability in the game when used on a tank
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You said that you going to buy Crab skin on 100k, when?
RELEASE HIM YOU FOOL
HE LIED TO US. RELEASE CHAMZ
I think they're generally really fckn careful when it comes to buffing ball. This buff feels like that. Especially since they were maybe expecting ball to already be more dominant with the sombra changes. So anyway, we may see more tiny buffs like this in the future til one of them suddenly puts him over the edge.
ball meta is really cringe for everyone who isnt playing tank, we saw that last time
No. This is a pure on paper buff. I think they saw the critics (maybe coming from yeatle fall of ball video) and now they needed to change something. Like in 2 situations in this video the buff secured a kill. They want a ram/sig meta now and thats why they gave ball no big changes. I kinda see dive meta in s8 again, they will give sig in mid s7 a small buff like with ram and this will it.
you do NOT know what you are talking about
@@縣 care to educate me?
blizzard loves doing weird microbuffs and you are exactly historically accurate, there will be a microbuff that makes him meta but we are like, at least 4 or 5 away from that (if the buffs stay the same size)
mercy getting 5 more bullets is on par with this ball buff
When you’re losing you can now feasibly say it’s a “sun diff”
tbh i love the sun change i think its amazing
As a ball main, I much prefer the new Sombra. And I don’t really care about the spread buff
she is much easier to chase down now she doesnt have her double TP
The spread hardly affects ball, since you’re always up close
The ball buff this patch was the sombra rework
I thought it wasn't noticeable but my accuracy % is around 5% higher so definitely a buff
Ball is good for sombra bc spy checking is the best way to kill her now.
1:10 BRO WALL CLIMBED WITH BALL 💀
I'm not totally convinced that sombra doesn't still screw ball. As far as I can tell, a full clip and virus actually does a tiny bit more than hacking and dumping a full clip into ball used to do, so I think if she just sits in her team and does nothing but deny ball, I think she can still give him a lot of trouble. She's definitely easier to kill now, and also easier to keep track of, so that's still better, at a minimum. I would love to hear more opinions though since I'm plat and don't really understand everything about the sombra-ball matchup.
huh did the math and your right a full clip plus hacked virus would do 7.5 more damage them a opportunist full clip into a hacked target
You don’t have to spend time hunting for translocator which is huge in of itself
Basically what pibble said, you don't even have to leave your team to deal with sombra anymore. Ball won the 1v1 against sombra easily, the problem before was that you had to look for specific downtime to chase sombra or look for trans, now you don't have to. Sombra herself wasn't even a counter to ball before, they both soft countered each other, however, now you actually get to play with your team more when there is an enemy sombra, meaning you have more uptime and more value. Hack was easy to cancel or bait out, you just couldn't punish sombra as easily before because she could tp to safety. Spy checking is also significantly better, since she can't tp to safety as easily or go invis whenever she wants. If you are actively chasing sombra, by the time she throws her trans, you know exactly where she will be and you will have grapple available to chase her or spy check where she tp'd to, again, without leaving your team entirely. Good ball players aren't actually scared of sombra, they are scared of chain cc's, which is a different issue entirely. Since she isn't tping to health packs anymore, she has to actively leave her team and do nothing if she wants to deny megas from you. The damage output from sombra is also negated by the fact ball does slightly more damage to her now, with his improved accuracy, which matters more on smaller targets. This change is an absolute win for ball players and I probably haven't even mentioned every reason as to why. Hope this helps.
-Ball player
straight fax. having no other choice to hunt for a tiny object somewhere in the dangerous enemy side of the map by yourself had way too much risk and small reward
@@cagxplays9602 I'm not concerned about the 1v1, like you said ball always won that, but sombras used to be able to translocate away to safety. This meant that good sombra players used to hide translocator, hunt for ball, get some easy ult charge, and leave. Now sombras can't do that and that's good. But good sombras will realize that, and what I'm afraid of now is if the sombra camps near her supports or whoever you plan to dive, and just hack you on every piledrive. You used to be able to punish that by hunting translocator, but now there's no option to do that. I don't think good sombra players will seek out ball like they used to, good sombra players will play defensively near her team and stop every engagement.
Ahh yes overwatch got a new update time to play for one day then never touch it again, but still think about it everyday
Oof real
Come play ow1 emulator with us. We have a comp system now
@@nathancasey7712 I’m xbox
I still think a tiny CC resistance buff was the way to go with ball. Just replace the 100 guaranteed overhealth from adaptive shield with a 75-100 health spherical shield, like a Zarya bubble; you'd block cheap CCs like hack or hinder, whilst still remaining vulnerable to melee CCs, like bask or punch.
Not to mention the shield, being on top of his health stack, would be the first thing depleted, so you'd only get a split-second window to use it to block CCs.
This is actually a fire idea
It would make him feel more skillful. Ult would be free tho.
@@martiantornado6113too strong
Blizzard needs to take notes ngl
Please dont
You should not read patch notes but go blind and see if you can feel the difference and try to guess patch changes. Would be fun for a stream :D
goated idea
I think kit-wise Sombra is so much more easy to "deal with", but it's takin me a little time to adjust because now she just does a lot of burst damage very quick. The bullet damage increase + virus was a little more dmg than I expected
When you play a 200 hp hero the damage burst is absurd
As a rein main, I LOVE the sombra rework, so much more playable
Sombra rework makes her great against supports and dps. Fucking love that she's not an instant win pick against Doom and ball anymore but shes also more powerful hanging back the team since hack is still strong.
0:50 average Overwatch player going outside
21:37 is the smoothest thing i've seen in a while, and i've seen alot.
Above all else, healers still just have so much impact that you can have 3 people at 20 hp and they're suddenly all full HP a moment later because a support looked in their general direction
Happy you got the 100k keep it up man love ur vids
Ball was alraeady goated. I had a 64% winrate with him the last two seasons. Hes my main. This season after 12 games, I won 11 with him and it felt so easy. I could shoot pharas out of the sky. I hope they don't kill him in this midseason patch but I see it coming.
nah you're good mate you've just discovered ball heaven 🙏
Theres nothing more satisfying that wall jumping off an enemies head lmfao
The devs honestly knocked it out of the park with this Sombra rework.
All they need to do next is reduce support healing numbers.
Been itching for this video to hear chazm’s thoughts on the sombra rework
22:27 That is fuxking hilarious😂
Random thought. Give ball Zen's kick. Have the little hamster punch some dude in the mouth to push them away so you can keep rolling if they are too close lmao
The thing about ball is that it feels like he's immortal unless you cc him which is the one moment you can dump enough damage into him to get the kill. Less cc is good for the game but when a ball gets low & he instantly gets a crap ton of shield health I wonder how I'll even kill him without a sleep or a hinder or smth.
Instant or nearly instant fireball when you grapple would be a game changer. Really dumb how a giant metal sphere can be blocked by a 110 pound British lez
I still like Yeatle's idea of giving ball a passive immunity being body-blocked.
6:21 how does rein get to point so fast?
5:45 cloudy 😭
Looks like illari made us face the sun rise
I like this length of your videos
New sombra kinda feels like ow1 ball tbh. I’ve been playing her h th is season and she’s actually fun now. I still miss using techs and high mechanics to move around, but her playstyle feels kind of like ow1 ball
Hadn't thought about it like that, but I can see why you'd say that.
Upping his damage from 5-1.5 (at 15-25m range) to 5.5-1.5 would have been a bigger change.Or changing the range falloff to 15-30m. Instead we got this weird 1% buff instead of a 5-10% buff like most heroes they aren't afraid of get when they need help :P
Yeah the ball buff is really the lack of sombra opportunist
15:50 ball says the friendly ult voice line instead of the self/enemy line, is that a glitch or smth
about the translocator animation. You need to up your graphics settings, especially effects
The Sombra nerf is a Ball buff by itself
YOOO, w for the 100k ❤
Yoooo they added 6v6 back with the sun being an enemy for both teams
congrats on 100k !
100k sus congrats!!🎉🎉🎉
Is there going to be an 100k special vid??
Subs i ment
It's ballin time
I have always felt like Cassidy is much more annoying to deal with then sombra, but the changes to her make it better to play into her.
Yeah, they buffed him again for no reason. He can tank even more ults with roll now...
Who is Cassidy
@@alexanderlorin7686cowboy
22:23 I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT DAMAGE and i was so upset cause i was just about to hit nade on myself, but the damage maaaaaaan. was such a bad game from me and that on yt shet
Chamz will only be free once you play mercy...
Buff's weird but I guess if ball needs a buff what can you really tweak? More survivability would be insane, mobility is already great, damage is already quite high. Would be nice if his ammo went up to 90 or 100.
A slight damage buff to his guns (it's not that high, most of his damage comes from rolls and pd's), a very short cc immunity ability, no body blocking, a smaller hitbox, a fireball buff (something like cc immunity or the ability to actually break things like junk trap in fireball), an actual knockback reduction passive (ball goes FLYING from regular boops), or the ability to knock back tanks, would have worked, but we take what we can get. No ball is ever actually shooting enough to need 100 bullets, because sitting still to shoot is how you get cc'd. There is plenty of small adjustments that could have been made and have been suggested, but the devs don't care to listen to ball players. Even just one of these changes would have made ball actually viable, without making him ridiculously op. Sorry if that was hard to read, I'm tired.
@@cagxplays9602no body blocking wouldn’t work but lessening the size of it while in ball form would help alot since a character like lucio could somehow bodyblock some doors and prevents even using the hook to knock them
@@cagxplays9602ball is balanced it’s just that his counters are just better than he is
@@mutantraze3681 no body blocking would definitely work but ok.
@@gabeitch5578 I don't necessarily disagree, but if they want to leave it the way it is, a micro buff for ball is the only option to making him properly viable. There needs to be counter play to chain stuns at the very least.
if hammond could talk like winston it would just be chazm
buff in action @ 4:42
Is it ever a good idea to stop shooting for the spread reset?
Now we can Ballin
I would like it if ball received a small damage boost to armor with its guns.
I'd love to see them add impact damage for when you boop people into walls, similar to what Doom does with his rocket punch.
Cass Sombra Bastion Mei are the only dps I've seen so far
what if ramming into enemies gave shield and dropping on them dispersed the shield as damage and they gave him a small projectile that bounces in arcs towards the direction its shot
I'll never understand why companies feel the need to add such large sun glare to FPS games.
It's not a single player atmospheric RPG, its a competitive shooter.
Love the long videos brother 🐹🐹
Ok after looking at ball gameplay this is what I mean a character should have a high skill ceiling! YES!
a couple more or so free headshots hardly buffs him tbh, now a slam buff would be interesting or even a spin dash type move
what is the song from the beginning?
what if they made his grapple a reduced cooldown if it gets interrupted like how is sombra had reduced cooldown if hack in canceled
Ball "buff" is a joke - but my money is on them not wanting to do anything big with the Sombra rework coming through. As a matter of fact, all the balance changes were tiny little baby changes (has there ever been a set of smaller adjustments on like 9 characters in a patch?) If they were to buff ball..it probably won't be this season since Hog's rework is coming. Season 8 has Mauga so probably no buffs there either. But season 9 boys. That is the season of ball.
The Sombra rework is actually a buff to tanks - Doom still has it rough with her, but her dmg on Ball is def lower now. Old hack into left click was something like 700 total damage if she emptied a clip and hit all shots (which wasn't hard on ball.) Now it's around 600 for a full clip + virus in the same time period, but she is much more at risk so will often be shooting from farther away probably meaning it's closer to 500 or 400 in reality (before she had no fear to just point-blank your ass.)
He sums up every ball's experience at around 33 minutes - "If I have no counters, I never die. If they have 2 counters, I'm useless" And counters are mostly just CC characters. Just give ball lower heatlh but CC resistance already.
"Just give ball lower heatlh but CC resistance already", this literally solves everything but they don't care to listen to us.
how are people feeling this buff? games have gone surprisingly pretty chill for me but I cant tell if its just anecdotal evidence with low sample size or not. Sombra feels a lot less annoying to fight but I cant tell if thats just because people haven't figured her out yet. I dont think the gun changes are that big but the meta shift in general feels pretty cool
that moment wen you do negative damage. 😂 It's painful.
Ha what if we gave ball sombra's old opportunist ability, but it's on his slams or boops?
Chazm is the only ball player I like
why did he think that reaching max spread 10 bullets later would change the game lol
What’s ur crosshair ?
I love this man
Like playing Gibraltar way back when and the sun would completely obscure anything out the first tunnel.
How do you feel about the mei changes? I've heard her primary fire now stops balls fireball boop things absurdly quickly.
She is old mei against. So the old rule: "Avoid her as best as you can" now applys again.
She has a base 40% slow instead of a 30 to 50% which in my opinion 40% is better to have than that stupid 30 to 50% slow.
Mei is just another reaper to ball, always has been. She's someone else's problem so you deal with her last or do your best to mitigate her value where you can by applying pressure and avoiding getting shot/slowed.
Now it’s just more about the sombra being competent or not but it’s still annoying to play against
Which is still a huge win for us because yes it’s annoying but incompetent players cant just free hack you while never dying anymore. I like it
omg the sKY IS SO BRIGHT!
Ballin
Unranked to gm controller
Congratulations on 100k🎉
All this time we’ve been saying we need more bullets or our bullets need to hit a little harder when really our bullets need to go a little straighter.
The fucking sunwhy 😭
So we aren't gonna talk about all the floating candles in the room on Hollywood A?
Nope
The best way for sombra to counter ball is to hack the mega’s idk why they weren’t doing that to you lol.
As a real ball in real life i think i am a ball
Hampter76 is real
Love u chazm
Casually drops a 40 minute video
Holy battlefield 3 sun
Everyone complaining about the orisa "nerf" and the mei buff making ball unplayable.
Chazm seeing a spread buff: Ball is back😎😎
i tought this video was a stream holy 47 min
He is back i have been clapping with ball i have missed ball
They raised the skill ceiling of ball with the spread change. You're used to larger spread, so you're missing more. Gotta improve the aim to see it help out.
very cool ballgd
Only nano geni can carry this game. Thanks blizard. So much heal....
What if hamster had Sombra's old passive that let her see low hp through walls?
What if we all turned into Ferris wheels overnight
Why? I play ball and this isnt at all necessary or wanted.
It is a buff to bad sombra players. Cause now they will play in their team and keep translocate which is how you play her well.
Yes my man
The sun would be fine if it was higher in the sky and was giving off a thousand times less GODRAYS
Surprised that I’m not seeing a lot more meis
mei is useless against a good ball player.
Ballin no nba 🤑
0:50 ish - I really dont understand the map changes sometimes on Blizzard's heads
Who thought that a Bright ass sun... Just perfectly on the way of an opening would be a great idea
I myself play on console and i already have hated the fact that most games allow pc's to have more customized options even some adding game changing ones like All shadows On/Off or Graphic settings changing them to see better at day/Night its literally unfair as a console player as then im most of the time stuck on the default settings customized for the console even though i like it more bright at night and less bright at day
But damn i also dont underatand the constant 3d movement thing its imo trash as it takes longer to do a left right left right movement then on a keyboard or mouse if you are some type of monster
But back to the topic
Blizzard just has the most random ass dedicated updates that no one wanted 😂
My man
Ball is decent again, yes, but with the new ability for Sombra because of the rework. Time to kick back and wash away for a week, Chazm. Rip
It's going to take more than a spread change to fix ball.
Does someone here have the code for ball to practice boops
Love youer gm
Sombra can’t really counter Ball as good anymore.
Still don’t understand why sombra needed a rework? Rework should have included getting rid of hack since it’s the most OP ability in the game when used on a tank
nah this shit aint even noticeable in game lol