Audiophile Roundtable: Best AAA pressings in print for $60 or less + AP’s Aja. It’s that good. Yes!!

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  • @pizzaz6171
    @pizzaz6171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Concert Budddie 79er is legit because Digital became the norm in the late 80's. I'll give him the fresh ears.Tim is probably the most based when it comes to records. Thanks Steve you have been subbed..

  • @cradio52
    @cradio52 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love The Beatles remixes - I have purchased every single one and I will continue to do so. To me, they’re just a bit of fun; a fresh, new and interesting way to digest some of the most legendary recordings of all time. I even prefer some of them over their original stereo mixes, like Revolver.
    BUT, as others have said in the stream, the problem is the original mono mixes absolutely should still be in print and widely available. It’s insane to me that they are keeping the mono versions under such lock and key. The main reason why everyone is pissed at George Lucas for “improving” the Star Wars films is chiefly because he refuses to allow the original cuts to be screened theatrically, put up on streaming or released on home media. He’s simply wiped them from existence (officially speaking, of course - there are plenty of fan restoration projects out there). He’s basically the only major film director who has done that. For example, when Spielberg edited E.T. for the 25th anniversary, he made sure to include the original theatrical version in the DVD set. Blade Runner has, what, 5 different cuts? But practically every release presents every single cut. Same with James Cameron’s films. Almost all of his movies have “director’s cuts” and all of their home media releases include the original cuts too.
    When it comes to The Beatles remixes, they should really be packing in the mono version with each copy (The Turtles have done this for their albums… they’re 2-LP releases where disc 1 is stereo and disc 2 is mono). At the very least, sell them separately but KEEP THEM IN PRINT. I shouldn’t have to hunt down a beat up 60s mono copy or shell out a hundred bucks for a clean original, or spend like $1,000+ for the 2014 mono box. It’s ridiculous.
    Anyway, there’s my contribution to the wonderful tradition of rants on this channel 😅

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Much appreciated. Very nice rant you have added. Love it.

  • @67Pepper
    @67Pepper ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Josh walkin' back his mention of the type of tape used for Aja on your show is funny. He didn't clarify whether his source was right or wrong, only said what lot of people said, that it sounds great so it doesn't matter what tape was used. Don't you think he should have waited to hear it before "breaking news" on your show?

    • @Jonny_C73
      @Jonny_C73 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wasn’t it Josh who also claimed Steve Hoffman worked on the Cisco Aja with Kevin Gray? 🥴

    • @emwhatever5528
      @emwhatever5528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steve Hoffman is banned from touching any universal tape. That's why Kevin mastered all the AF titles from Universal. The blue note titles Steve Hoffman did was before Universal purchased Blue Note.

    • @andysmusicden
      @andysmusicden ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emwhatever5528why is he banned?

    • @cradio52
      @cradio52 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah that was very… interesting. He essentially said Chad and Bernie were lying about the source, then going into the comments saying he never said they lied… but like, okay, he didn’t literally say the word “lie” but the situation was this: Chad said they used a non-EQ’d tape copy, then Josh said he has a source who knows it wasn’t a non-EQ’d tape copy, and later on in the stream he said he was “sticking by my source,” so idk how else to characterize it other than essentially saying Chad is lying because you have a source who knows the truth. Now he’s waffling and walking it back in this video, saying he was “taken out of context” (which is just plain incorrect and ridiculous) and that it doesn’t even matter anyway. Spare me. Don’t try to say it was people misinterpreting or just trying to start drama, or taking out of context or trying to intentionally skew what was said. Just man up, own your sh*t, own your mistake and apologize for putting false information out there and essentially questioning the character of the two men who literally produced the release.

    • @67Pepper
      @67Pepper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cradio52 Fake news in the VC???🤣

  • @michaellynch4699
    @michaellynch4699 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great hearing George talk about the digital aspects, as a mastering engineer myself that has used both for the last 30 years you use whatever will give you the sound your after, in my opinion the reason why alot of AAA sound so good is because there was alot of care taken through the whole vinyl process , from the mastering through to the press

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    like to see a debate framer vs George analog vs digital

  • @zacharystrong6638
    @zacharystrong6638 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have cost me a fortune recommending the sound choice, great service from John over there.

  • @doodahdavesrecords4319
    @doodahdavesrecords4319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the great work Steve Love Counting Crows Long December

  • @MichaelLisk
    @MichaelLisk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The remastered Red and Blue albums have different songs than the originals. That's how you can tell the difference from the originals.

  • @Jeremy-yf2jd
    @Jeremy-yf2jd ปีที่แล้ว

    Merchbar has a sale of the Beatles 'Red' and 'Blue' in black vinyl plus the box for US$113 plus shipping 😮

  • @Glorygood56
    @Glorygood56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation and topics of interest. Thanks.

  • @doodahdavesrecords4319
    @doodahdavesrecords4319 ปีที่แล้ว

    George Royal Scam is my fav! Luv you dude!

  • @FotogInkArt
    @FotogInkArt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hanson brothers AND spatchcock ? Best liestream ever. I have the UHQR,only one I own and I love it. Budget doesn't allow for more. But wow,even on my podunk vintage 70s consumer gear, wow.

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was fun. I love the movie Slap Shot. It’s a classic growing up in Canada.

    • @nicholassheffo5723
      @nicholassheffo5723 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevewestman7774 And there was a recent sequel.

  • @johandebrier116
    @johandebrier116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the AP Atlantic 75th pressings. It seems quite a lot of warped records there. Especially the Dr.John. Some complaints on the AP FB fanclub page. I heard that Mike from The "in" Groove also replaced already records with the same problem.

  • @cven1103
    @cven1103 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys, excellent, such fun. Thanks 😂

  • @johndoyle7644
    @johndoyle7644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great conversation , now to play Paradise and Lunch

  • @AlanKPet
    @AlanKPet ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, good to get generational opinions.
    From an older boomer ‘47, I was excited for the Beatles Red album remix. I was buying Beatles 45s as they came out and had a transistor radio in my ear.
    With two exceptions I love the remixes. They bring songs I love to life again.
    Hoping for a re-re-mixed versions of Love Me Do and Please Please Me.

  • @false_binary
    @false_binary ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ONLY Red/Blue vinyl discussion of merit this week is New Order's Substance 1987 Indie Store release!!!!! I am a die hard NO/JD fan Steve... brothers in post-punk!

    • @michaelbrodybroshears5721
      @michaelbrodybroshears5721 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts!

    • @false_binary
      @false_binary ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelbrodybroshears5721 The In Groove only got 8% of their allocated lot and cancelled my pre-order. Had to got Acoustic Sounds / Analogue Productions to get the Indie red/blue (limit one per acct).

  • @johns126
    @johns126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Am I weird in thinking that there is no point keeping tape in storage - use it until it fails. Wont it disintegrate/fail eventually anyhow in storage?

  • @Wpjs2112
    @Wpjs2112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with Tim. I love the sound of the 45, but it’s is difficult to settle in and just enjoy. Too much up and down and running to the needle.

  • @91pastor
    @91pastor ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2007 Speakers Corner of The Doobie Brothers The Captain and Me, it was cut by Kevin Gray at Acoustech Mastering.

  • @tomdemaline8869
    @tomdemaline8869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aja and Gaucho for me are the two best. If I had to pick one, impossible

  • @markyexley9440
    @markyexley9440 ปีที่แล้ว

    The artwork on The Beatles Red and Blue HiRes is clearly marked as 2023 Edition.

  • @davidpetersen7091
    @davidpetersen7091 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great discussion.
    Mr. Pete-------->
    aging hippie

  • @mistermac56
    @mistermac56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great roundtable Steve. I bought the OG mono Beatles albums in a cutout bin for 1.99 each in my late teens when the stereo versions were released and still have them. They sound great. I agree there should be some delineation between the remix versions of the Red/Blue and the originals. If people like the remixed versions, that's fine. Just not my cup of tea.

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Big Show!

  • @91pastor
    @91pastor ปีที่แล้ว

    First rule... always check out your 'source(s)' before making a statement (not a comment, a statement) about somebody else!

    • @danijelsan81
      @danijelsan81 ปีที่แล้ว

      He trusted his source, but will likely think 3 times before he does that again publicly. And it would be hilarious if his ‘source’ was just f*cking with him 😂

  • @KRay-km8hh
    @KRay-km8hh ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy your roundtables Steve. Could you please ask Patrick if they are considering Metallica for hi-fi series? Especially Master of Puppets. Thank you sir.

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I will. We will be live on Tuesday. Please join.

    • @KRay-km8hh
      @KRay-km8hh ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Your efforts are appreciated. Please know I try to watch live, but work can sometimes get in the way. If it does, I catch you later in replay.

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KRay-km8hhno prob. Glad your enjoy them.

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please keep tape going with plenty of non eq d copies

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it eq d tape or not, i want the correct answer?

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sticking with what AP has on their website for it. A non-eqd copy.

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    well not so much melinda , but still like to hear her take

  • @nicholassheffo5723
    @nicholassheffo5723 ปีที่แล้ว

    George, I do not know if the remixing is as bad as colorization, but that would be worth expanding on oil a separate discussion.

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tape no digital hard edges, smooth to the ears, tape natural to ears, not ones and zeroes jus everything that is there

  • @carrion_man3700
    @carrion_man3700 ปีที่แล้ว

    SHF are turning into a cesspool. I stopped posted a few months ago. Just can’t take it anymore.

  • @BobCoalWater
    @BobCoalWater ปีที่แล้ว

    Since he's Canadian, I wonder what is going on in Steve's mind when listening to the American showing records available of 60, 40 30$. I noticed he was very quiet.

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    once again is aha eq'd or not tape copy what the final answer?

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am going by what Chad stated in his website which clearly stated it was a non eqd copy of the original.

  • @Grooverski
    @Grooverski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reliable source? 😂 That’s what I think about that.

    • @danijelsan81
      @danijelsan81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he learned his lesson. Made an ass of himself and will likely be smarter next time.

    • @Grooverski
      @Grooverski ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danijelsan81 Some learn. Some won’t. 😉

  • @mccarthyd6603
    @mccarthyd6603 ปีที่แล้ว

    Late to the party...what was the controversy with what Josh said? Not interested in going to the Steve Hoffman forums or going back to previous videos...just curious what all the hoopla is all about....

  • @charlieanderson8497
    @charlieanderson8497 ปีที่แล้ว

    I say T. Rex or Alice Cooper for next Rhino HIFi.

    • @Onteo1
      @Onteo1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slade - Sladest.

  • @andysmusicden
    @andysmusicden ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you forget about the theme of the round table halfway through this time? Click bait! 😉

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aja meant

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    tape tape tape!

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    invite fremer and melinda on and ron Beaudry to counter george

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    anyone listen to chads 45 rpm atlantic series "selling england by the lb." or foreigner foreigner?

  • @michaelgreene5703
    @michaelgreene5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fremer i mean

  • @onsenkuma1979
    @onsenkuma1979 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sorry guys, but the opiate addiction epidemic in the U.S. heartland is not chuckle-worthy...and that's from someone with a darker sense of humour than any of you...

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agree. Hence why I was putting it out there. It’s bad just like here in Vancouver.

    • @onsenkuma1979
      @onsenkuma1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevewestman7774You're right Steve - it's all over the place now, and getting worse. On a lighter note: Kelly's Records and Records on Wheels on Portage, Pyramid Records? Ring some bells?

    • @stevewestman7774
      @stevewestman7774  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onsenkuma1979 yes of course. All
      Of the above. I loved Records on Wheels.

    • @onsenkuma1979
      @onsenkuma1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who said anything about censorship? I'm a free speech absolutist, which I why I felt free to comment@@safebelayer

  • @jimmiescoffee
    @jimmiescoffee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol. What a joke