The Ontario RAT 2 in D2 Steel: A Quick Shabazz Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2018
- Today, we're going to take a quick look at a long-awaited knife, the Ontario RAT 2 in D2 steel. And we'll make a side note about the Carbon Fiber.
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You are completely right about the carbon fiber scales. I should have listened.
“This R2D2 might be the droid you’ve been looking for” might be the best joke you’ve ever made
I love the R2D2 joke!
Nick Kaz Now I have the Star Wars theme playing in my head...
I want to put white scales on mine with all blue hardware so it looks like R2D2
I got one 1.5 years ago cuz rhe R2D2 reference ability
Not increasing the price is a cool and interesting move. Seems like a bit of a challenge to all the knife makers who are marketing d2 as a super premium high dollar steel, and I'm really liking that. This is a knife that enough people know, that it could significantly impact what steels come at what price.
Joe Merritt think the reason why it didn't increase because there using the older version of D2 not cpm D2
souldude13 I hope you realize that there's almost no knife on the market using cpm-d2. Out of, the over, 10 thousand knives on bladehq there's only 9 using cpm-d2..
Here in the UK, the D2 ones are around £10 dearer than the AUS-8 equivalents
Love my RAT2 in AUS8. Sharpening is not an issue. It's what I do every night when watching the idiot box. Why pay more for a slightly better steel? Busy hands are happy hands. Love your reviews Nick.
Discovered something more to love about this knife last night. The spine is excellent at removing old compound from a strop by scraping. Cleaned a strop, re-spread it with compound, stropped again and cleaned dirty compound off again, all inside 5 mins. Happy.
I've been waiting (and waiting etc.) for my beloved RAT 2 to come out in D2, and I'm not disappointed. Both RATs, 1 and 2, especially in D2, are among my favorite value folders. The AUS8 versions I own have nice polished edges that only take minimal ceramic honing and stropping to maintain.
I want my R2D2 in blue.
Just watched the proper review. And now I'm here. I like it when I'm having trouble keeping up with new uploads. I'm picking up two of these soon once I find the budget.
Ok man after a ton of reviews you won me over on this knife. Looking for an edc that wont freak out my coworkers. I also didnt want junk. You have great reviews well done.
I just bought one thanks to your info. I was sitting here all day long going through the internet trying to find the best price on this knife and then I saw your video about D2 Steel. I found it at Warriors and wonders here in Canada bought it right away and it's on the way thanks for the info
Got my R2D2 in coyote brown. Thanks for review Nick
Thank you Mr Shabazz! I’m new to the knife game and I was sold on the Syderco Tenacious as my first EDC . That was until I subbed to your channel. With this great review you have sold me on this Ontario Rat 2 (D2). Keep em coming Sir! ~Tim~🙂
I have to get my hands on this. I recently got myself a RAT 1 in Aus 8 and am absolutely loving it and plan to get the D2 version. Now I want the RAT 2 in both versions as well
I decided on the green Rat II D2 and blought it on Amazon about an hour ago. Then i decided to buy the CF model instead. AND THEN, I watched this review and cancelled the CF and reordered the green model. Thank you for the infor that saved me not only $10.00, but the regret for a poor choice. Nick, you rock!
Just bought one in D2 and I love everything about it,the style and weight are just perfect,but I'd sure love one with G10 scales and M390 blade.
Ironically the first Ontario knife I ever purchased was the Rat 1 in G10/Carbon Fiber D2. I love that damn thing. Seriously.
Fun fact. Let my brother borrow it and he lost it... I was angry beyond measure and ordered another one (black coated). Edge Pro'ed it to a mirror polish and held on to it... Weeks later I am at his apartment and find my original knife. So I technically bought two.
@Castle Bravo It's like raaaaaain on my wedding day!
lol he "lost" it .
I just opened the box on my r2d2. I’ve always had spyderco knives but this may be my new favorite except my thumb slips off the stud most of the time but I’ll get used to it. Spyderco is always sooo easy to open . But this is very light and easier to carry. Maybe my new favorite...thanks for the recommendation nick.
The good thing about these CF handle scales is that the knife can be pulled out from denim pants easily. I have the RAT-1 in D2 & CF.
I'll look forward to having this knife in my pocket. great news, it's big brother in D2 is one of my faves.
This is one us budget guys have been waiting on.Thanks Harry
my CF R2D2 showed up damaged on one side of the scales. apparently most of these coming from Ontario have this issue. returned mine and awaiting a new one with plastic scales. love this knife tho!
Thanks Nick, been watching your channel for a while, now I'll be pulling the trigger on my first EDC knife with the RD2D2.
The r2d2 in canada is 69.99 and the r2 in aus 8 is 49.99. Knife prices are so high in Canada. It's crazy.
In canada they want 69.99 for the R2D2 that's like double the price in the usa. We get screwed in canada on knife prices.
Hi Nick, I'm watching old Rat reviews since I'm considering ordering one in D2. Already have the Aus8. (Talking about the Rat1) I just had a thought....don't you think if they added a flipper at the bottom end of the 'choil-ish' area it would be great. To me the Rat has one of the best detents (for my preference.) I just think if they added a flipper it would turn this from one of the best budget knives to THE BEST. I know to some it may already be. That would give you so many opening options. And what I like about flippers, especially with a longer type flipper is that it takes away any fear I have about the liner lock. If you were to exert alot of forward pressure on a flipper knife and it failed, the flipper would close on your finger instead of the edge. This is hypothetical, but I believe a flipper might just prevent your finger from being cut badly.
I have many more expensive Spyderco knives but I still think that my old aus 8 rat 2 may be my favorite little knife ever. I've had the d2 in my next shopping cart for a week now. Great video
I bought two of the Ontario rat 1 n I love the knife! Excellent Review n I think spot on , concise objective review on your part. Thank you for not playing stupid music or wasting time. I will become new subscriber. Dr Dave
Thanks for this video. I’ve been holding off on the RAT2, but now that the D2 model is out....I think now is the time to jump.
I got an R2D2 in November and upgraded to Flytanium scales in December. I love this thing.
My EDC is the Kershaw Leek. I work in an office setting. It's not big, not to small and always comes through in a clinch.
I absolutely love when you show other knives in the videos to compare them so you can see other knives someone thinks is very cool without having to search in another video, very good reviewer. Awesome
Finally... Thanks Nick...!!! Love your reviews...
I have the R2D2 in Green and D2 steel ofc, its my EDC #1, i simply love the size, handling and feel of this cheap knife. And I do have a few other knifes, even much moore expencive ones like Benchmade 940. The Griptillian and The Freek
This little knife is awesome, I carry him every day.
I got mine today, plain black handle. I was flicking it open all afternoon. Great effortless action.
I know where my next 40 bucks is going. Awesome. Nice review Tricky Nicky.
Hey Nick, is the handle thickness the same between the two handle scale options? The hole around the pivot on the plastic handle looks deeper in some shots.
I've had the CF Rat 1 in D2 for a year or so now, and I personally love the carbon fiber on it! Maybe my standards are too low...
I like the CF too. It's got a nice zigzag pattern off-angle, and I don't find it too slick.
I bought the R1D2cf4(4 layers :p) to toss in the toolbox on my tractor for opening seed and fertilizer bags, or stripping wires or whatever. Fertilizer is especially abrasive and works itself into the bag fibers. If I was gutting deer or working at a wharf covered in fish slime all day - I sure as hell wouldn't be using a folder, much less a knife with smooth scales.
As for everyone's complaining about D2 being hard to sharpen - I've got a Ka-Bar branded white (very fine grit) stone (not sure if it's an India or Whetstone) and can take an edge from having cut soup cans open to shaving sharp in under 20 passes (dry). If that's too hard, maybe knife sharpening isn't your gig. ;)
i know this is a old video, if you have a d2 knife you can use gun blue to coat the blade to be rust proof. you can cold blue pretty much any metal and it gives a beautiful black ice look
You confused the hell out of me. I've wanted a R2-D2 for as long as there was a R1D2, never able to find it as it didn't exist, I started this thinking it was an R1D2 but then saw this was posted 24hr ago and realized my prayers were answered.
Thanks Nick I love your reviews and wish I had seen this one sooner. Last night I ordered mine with the carbon fiber. My bad
I bought the D2 Carbon Fiber Rat 2 and it came out of the box kind of stiff.and the liner lock is tight as well..blade is perfectly centered, and it came with the pocket clip in the tip down position.changing to the tip up now...what can I do to loosen up the action?
Camera might be cheating, but did the D2 get a slight recurve?
I heard R2D2 and i subscribed, i really enjoy your enthusiastic voice. Looks like i gotta go buy me a droid now lol
Talon Grips work great for adding grip to the slippery plastic scales
Took mine apart and did a little sanding on the scales. It made a HUGE difference. I recommend to try it. I just hit it with a 600 grit, took the gloss off. Try it.
Thanks for your reviews. Are there any high and clones of this knife made? (Under $200) I have this knife and its great, just wish it was more premium. The mini bugout is too small.
You can buy D2 version with FRN from factory.
It's a pity you haven't mentioned if the black blade coating is any good.
Great review thanks Nick... 👊👍✌
Your original guess was correct, that's essentially a sticker of carbon fiber on g-10. Ganzo has the same two sided c.f. and g-10 scales made by sandwiching a layer of g-10 between two thin layers of c.f. I don't want to argue with people who say it's %100 carbon fiber, it's not, it says it right in the product description.
Oh, cute. Well, that explains that. Well, whatever it is, it's crappy.
Definitely fake. When you can't see the weave on the grinds you know it's fake.
For price, so what
"Whoa, freeze frame!" LOL. Nick for President.
are we getting a disassembly video on the D2 version??
You saved me a few bucks for sticking with the nylon. Thanks!
Nick I will like to see how the Ontario RAT model 2 Liner Lock works and how easy or hard is to use . TK
The carbon fiber could still be a laminate. Ganzo also has carbon fiber laminates on both side of the scale. They apparently do this so that they can save costs by only having to cut out one orientation/design for both sides.
Currently today February 7th, 2020 the R2 D2 is $37.68 satin with OD green scales and the R2 AUS 8 is $25.07 satin with black scales both at Amazon.
Here in canada the rat 2 in aus 8 is 49.99 and the rat 2 in d2 is 69.99. We get so screwed in canada on knife prices. Our knife prices in canada are like doubled.
Dammit, Nick, you just had to point out that the name is now a Star Wars reference. Now I want one more than I already did.
Would you spend the extra money on titanium scales for the d2 version?
“There may well be some carbon in here... and it may be fiberous...” lol
Great news, and great review. One thing that I was hoping you would do was a weight comparison between the carbon D2 and plastic Aus8. Weight would be the only mildly compelling reason to get the carbon. If it's not too much trouble for you, do you think you could bust out the scales for me? Love your work, especially your focus on the value end of the spectrum.
rebdomine1 the CF model actually weighs about .5 ounces more than the GFN model. LUV THEM KNIVES has a video where he weighed both.
Now I need an R2D2 to go with the Sheaffer R2D2-themed fountain pen I just picked up...
I got one in carbon and one in coyote brown plastic. I do prefer "using" the plastic, but the carbon looks better, IMHO so I carry it when I don't expect to use it too hard. Maybe I'm just a sucker for any carbon fiber whatsoever.
Give the scales a light sanding with a high grit paper and you'll get closer to the feel of that zt.
BladeHQ and Knife Center both charge $10 more ($37.95) for D2 over the AUS8 ($27.95) for same models.
This is basically same cost difference on Rat1 versions of D2 and Aux8 at both sites.
Oh. Well, that's ugly.
Well then buy it off SMKW. I mean you don’t have to stay loyal to ONE website am I right.
This wonderful little knife is so much a part of my life that I get a little anxious if I realize I'm not carrying it.
It's g10 with a carbon fiber sticker on each side so they can do the initial cut on the handles in the same direction.
In Blade HQ it specifies it’s CF/G-10. I ordered one with the black blade and CF/G10 scales. Hasn’t arrived yet. We’ll see how it turns out. Wanted something different. Good review as always Nick.
Gerardo Pietrantoni i ordered the same one. scales on the clip side came damaged. returned for a new one so make sure u check
poisonousnut Thanks! I’ll check it out when it arrives.
Maybe its just me but i do a lot of physical labor in the sun at work and i find more often than not im sweating through my pocket. So i think i'll stick with AUS-8 for now. I carried a D2 blade once and it had light rust after the 1st week.
Wipe it down once a week ?
Does this stay in your permanent collection and get carried regularly?
"The droid you've been looking for"......well played Sir!!!!
Aus8 is also much more responsive to a strop then D2. So u might actually need to go to stones a little more then aus8. Unless your really hard on the edge and chip it or roll it.
Is the D2 version still in production? I can't find it here in Canada O_O
In the pic of the two Rat 2s, it looks like the Aus 8 one has a sharpening choil, but the D2 one has none or a smaller one.
hey nick you could sand down the carbon a bit to give it a mat finish
Sooooo, when is the Rat 2 in coming in CPM S110VN ?
Love they have a coated version live in Three Rivers and trust me it's always high humidity
Man it’s so funny, California’s like 5 different countries. Where I’m at it’s dry as hell I actually have multiple humidifiers lol
hello, what and the sharpening angle of the ontario rat 2 with the d2 steel?
I think you should totally do a vs on the d2 cutback vs d2 rat2
R2D2!!! Now I have to buy one!!!
I bought the CF first, CF a little too smooth, so I bought the nylon handle in green w/ black blade in D2, yeah!
I just want to know if the rat 2 Aus8 has bronze washers!?
I'm a recent budget knife afficionado. The RAT2 was hyped on several youtube channels as the best thing since sliced bread. At the best, was a let down.i cushion that by saying I probably woulda loved the knife if I didn't have some others I really love. It has good steel and overall construction, but thats where it ends for me. It'll end up in my car as a beater. I like the look, the thinness and construction but it is far from a one hand intuitive knife like my other flippers that I thoroughly enjoy. This one takes some finess and smaller hand apparently. The clip is short and SUPER stiff. I got frustrated taking it out and putting in my pocket it was so tight. I was doing a project and basically just kept in fully in my pocket til my next use. It feels like itll wear out the jean material as well if i used this one a lot. For a budget friendly knife I'll buy other models of the Honeybadger or anything by Ganzo. The Ganzo Firebird FH91AND 41 in D2 with amazing flip action is $25 to $30 currently!!! Both Cheaper and more fun than this.
I switched the handle scale on my rat 2 d2 to the plastic scales because the carbon fiber scales are too smooth for my liking
I just picked up the R2D2 due to the company closing down. I got the last one in the store. It's a very good knife that deserves to be in the collection. Sad about OKC
Onatario is a great company for not being greedy and making a great affordable knife for the middleclass outdoorsman. I would think they'll make up for loss with huge sales numbers. A rat 1 with a serrated d2 blade with g10 scales and ball bearings would be perfect.
I want white scales with blue screws and spacers for an r2d2??
While they tend to look quite vanilla, these knives are just freakishly wonderful. I'm collecting all of the colors to satisfy my nerdism and unwavering love for them, but the regular Joe Shmoe black one is the one I beat up. I look at it like you look at the delica. Love other stuff. Get other stuff. Well aware that there is better stuff, but yet something in us needs to make sure that we never forget what truly works, and what deserves to be respected for it.
Is that how you spell "Shmoe"? I feel like a C should be in there.
It’s a peel ply CF like spyderco or ganzo most of it is g-10. Great vid love that you call yourself out
Peel ply CF and CF laminate are different things
Glad i watched this because o was.seriously thinking of getting the c.f. version
I shall use your word, Mr. Shabazz " Friggin Hallelujah!!!!"
At what angle do I sharpen this knife?
sure wish theyed make the Joe Pardue series in a D2. Id buy em in a heartbeat
I love that he called it the r2-D2
What did you mean when you said you were planning to switch the plastic scales? With what?
Yup this.
Purchase placed, thanks Nick!
Nick, I'm really can't decide between Rat 2 or Civivi Elementum 2, any advice ? thanks
Civivi E2 just because of the fidget feature
Hoping this puts some pressure on companies like CRKT and Kershaw to start upgrading their steel.
Link to Rat 2 D2 w/out carbon fiber?
Rat2 with custom micarta scales with D2 me like a lot
Is it worth to pay 20$ more for carbon version? i mean 60$ normal nylon version vs 80$ carbon version in my country?
It's about time!😊
R2d2. I like that well done good sir 👏.