Black Templar vs Tau Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Battle Report Ep 9
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Matt challenges Cullen with his close combat Black Templars against to see if the Tau can deal with marines in their face.
Making WH40K videos is practically asking for critique, especially with a new system when you're still learning the rules, so thank you for all your effort and time! There are a lot of people who just want to say what you did wrong, but thank you for taking the time to play the game and publish this BatRep at all!
Hudson i salute you sir
That dude's finger kept bending like it was broken!
It was making me cringe like crazy
Erik Laage seriously these guys were alittle cringy
The guest's fingers might be freaky but it was a good batrep. Just gotta skip the pre-game.
Wow, don't hand around any double jointed people then.
Erik Laage dude i was just about to say the same thing!
Couldn't help but notice when the Templar units needed to use command points to reroll charge distance.
Someone is going to be happy with their fancy new chapter tactics.
Lol, people yelling at the new guy again because he didn't learn from the mistakes in the past videos... it's almost like he warned at the START OF THE VIDEO that he was still in the same session of games and hasn't seen comments yet since none of the vids had gone up at the time of recording.
For a bunch of people angry about him not paying attention and learning, they sure could take a lesson themselves.
Don't let the black templars player point at things anymore.
I guess some people get freaked out by people with double joints.
Levowitz ThE hEcK hIs FiNgEr
Tau blood is a blueish-purple color, but when oxygenated it becomes an amber yellow color
HeraldofNurgle7 when you're always in a suit that explodes around you and burns you to death when does the enemy see you bleed?
Andy Hart f
when you arte just a firwarrior that is turned itno fine blueisch-purple mist that then turns into amber... could count as modern art
HeraldofNurgle7 blood doesn't change colour
yes it does, lul wut?!?
The Black Templars player seemed to really know his stuff. Knew his units and rules pretty well. I don't particularly like the Black Templars but it was a really good game.
Xombiticus HERESEY
They just seem like angry jerks to me for the most part. however I have been imagining Black Templar Primaris Reivers charging into battle with combat knives ready for the stabby stabby....
yeah, easy to see how to confuse anger issues for a Crusader mentality.
Templar Primaris. Templars but now with 100% more zeal :D
He didn't seem to know what the Black Templars chapter rules are. Re-rolling charges.
At that point the 8th Edition Space Marine Codex was not yet released. So no Chapter tactics avaliable.
56:05
" The Emperor Protects!"
" Can you NOOOOT"
😂😂😂
Loved seeing the Black Templars hit the field! I'm really hoping to see close combat army vs. close combat army matches more. So often it seems to be ranged vs ranged or ranged vs close combat.
Alot of things went wrong because the rules were not better known by the T'au player.
But, I'm gonna say this though, learning from other people's mistakes is very important too (and it avoids you the pain of a crushing defeat) so for that, thank you.
Here are a few very basic things the T'au player could have done better (not bashing, just trying to educate the young Shas'la here)
1 - Markerlights effects are cumulative, so re-roll 1, then destroyers and seekers at full BS, then move and shoot, then no cover and then +1 to hit. So 5 markerlight hits are amazingly lethal.
2 - Most if not all ST 7+ and all 8+ weapons do more than one wound, don't forget that.
3 - If you're going to deep strike and are planning on having stealths suits, use the homing beacon, infiltrate your stealths close to the enemy (then advance the stealths, drop the beacon just over 9'' away from the target (say that razorback or rhino), deploy your fusion crisis within 6'' from the beacon (regardless of the distance to the enemy) light it up until it has 5 marker lights, then melt it down with +1 BS, rerollable 1 and seekers and destroyers that hit with their owner's BS +1 and rerollable 1's.
4 - Markerlight hits should be rolled one at a time, until you get your 1st markerlight hit, then roll them all together but rerolling 1's... a slight increase in the rate of success that adds up in the end to more kills.
5 - Keep in mind which units have assault, rapid fire and heavy weapons. Markerlights allow you to shoot with heavy weapons without the penalty for moving and with assault weapons without the penalty for advancing (that Piranha's Fusion blaster should never be out of range of the target that you light up for destruction)
6 - Kill one unit, then move to the next. Don't start with the landraider unless you can bring to bear more or less 15 fusion blaster on it, yeah that's how tough it is to kill (within 9'') with guys that hit on 4+. So kill a few units for first blood and eventually move on to it, but a Landraider is a very tough cookie to crack.
7 - Keep seeker and destroyer missiles for targets like landraiders, knigths and other unkillable high wound high toughness high save targets. Those pesky mortal wounds bypass all that on a simple hit roll.
Holy crap I haven't seen a space marine army maneuver this well this quickly before. Those swords in turn one... Geeeeez!
After seeing all those previous batreps with riptide tau this was a positively cathartic watch.
Amazing paint job on those black templar's! black is hard to paint and you made it look very good!
I love the noises he makes in the movement phase
This was the greatest domination against Tau in possibly ever.
Where's Dave? Lost in the warp?
Please bring back Mathew as the resident Miniwargaming's Tau player. I get sad and frustrated every time I watch a Tau game on this channel. Cullen seems like a nice guy and might do a great job at editing (or what ever is role is at MWG), but when he plays... Nothing personal, but I'd just like to learn some things rather than see mistakes and poor decision making.
If you see mistakes, you're learning something!
- Windgrowler forget it. You will have all those fanboys telling you to be a bad person because you want to learn how to play better. Learning the rules is nothing I need a TH-cam channel for.
Isn't it kind of normal for Tau players to do mistakes now that they actually have to think about their turns? ^^
This is probably the most engaging Battle Report I have seen yet, more BT please.
"Oh, I have a 4xFusion Commander. He's the best! Oh wait, he got one shotted?" Yeah dude, you need to support him!
that sigh when tau sieze the initiative xD
he knows he's in for a world of hurt
i stand corrected... somehow the templars outshot tau... and of course combat.
Nice more Black Templars!
JinzoMask656 Was there even a MWG Batrep with them in 7th? This is a great change!
Agreed! For the crusade brothers!
And Tau blood is the color of heresy!
I'm pretty sure there was a Banter BatRep around the time Dan was visiting them
JinzoMask656 Tau blood is red I think, but the Blood Angles and Blood Ravens aren't heretics.
The way the man bends his finger in the beginning... *shudders*
Tau blood was described as being cyan in the old "firewarrior" novel. The main character comments on how he thought it was strange that human blood was bright red because their skin was so pale.
Alriiiiite, some mistakes that I didn't see mentioned in comments(didn't read all)...
14:00 - ish You only rolled one missile pod from the sun shark bomber, but they have an option to get second MP...
16:20 - yes, you could deploy the drones in that way, it's set up as one unit, AFTER it's set up, it's treated as 2 units. So you could set up the drones without coherency, then after it's deployed, if you move them at all in next turns, you either have to move "back" into coherency or you can't move at all.
In Tau turn 1 you should've charged the rhino with ghostkeel, also didn't notice if you used ethereals power or not... could've given them sense of stone or not move and give them the reroll 1s...
19:50 - I don't think you get cover here. the FAQ said you only get cover if you're within a terrain AND being obscured
24:34 - You say "2+ save goes to 5+", the commander only has 3+ save, so it would be 6+ against plasma, you rolled a 3 though...
36:00 - should've rolled the D3 for number of shots first with fusion colider, but maybe you did that off camera...
51:50 - the piranha's drones shoot with BS of the piranha while attached
52:40 - What are you overcharging on ghostkeel? It has fusion collider, which is Heavy D3, no overcharge profile... (yea, you realised this later in game...)
1:01:10 - No, the ghostkeel does not get -1 here. RAW each individual shooting attack is resolved individually, that includes removing models from the battlefield.
Tau color is blue/cyan/"kida purpleish blue" depending on who you ask, their hemoglobin equivalent has cobalt instead of iron. Although one BL author ignored previous fluff and just said it's red, so ignore that idiot...
always love seeing BT on the table
So, if I had been the T'au player, My first turn would have been using homing beacon on the stealth team to drop every crisis suit together on one side of the board and deny a flank. By splitting your crisis/commanders shots across too many different units, you failed to do significant damage with a list that could have brought a tremendous alpha strike in the first turn. Seriously the list was decent maybe a few tweeks here and there (drop the bomber, swap HYMPSide to RailSide, and maybe bring a second ghostkeel if possible or more suits). Also I would have placed all my suits close enough to the target to have them charge any infantry that survived the alpha strike. this would force him to either fall back or give up on return fire in his turn. Also by assaulting with the suits and keeping the drones close you prevent him from shooting the drones and can use them as ablative wounds so your suits survive to fall back and fire on turn 2.
In this edition T'au are a very in your face agressive army. You were playing too concervatively when you needed to be agressive and to aggresive when it no longer mattered.
Don't know if this had been mentioned, and don't know the range on Tau flamers but you have to be within range of the unit charging to use it. No more wall of flame. Good to mention regardless.
At 29:26 he should have rolled 2d6 and took the highest for damage. He was well within half range of that Melta.
The emperor protects.
Knew who would win as soon as I saw the Tau flyer ...
Okay i know that he is new and we should give him time but seriously. I just started a dark angels army and i already know every units characteristic. I just live to red about them because i am interested in it. So either he doesnt give a fuck about it or he isnt at least a little interested in the Tau. It seems that Mwg just passed the tau to a new guy to cover it and not that he wanted to do it.
mtrunkello ikr I mean he doesn't even understand even the most basic tactics. Like shield drones are not useless unless you just hurl them to guard someone else or how tau have NEVER been good in close combat
Flourikum , No shield drones are bad. Only use their saves if they're shot at. They have no weapons so why the fuck would anyone even shoot at them? Unless you have a hero to bubble wrap, Shield drones are useless.
If you're using them for their Saviour Protocols then they are just as sturdy as gun drones or marker light drones. Which have actual uses outside of being shot at.
TacCom I saved a unit of crisis battlesuit in exchange for one of two shield drones, if one attack doesn't wound then the next also targets the same unit you allocate the wounds on each unit so as long as it's not a flamer or grenade just use them as glorified shields (house rules for those weapons because we have a feeling that certain weapons will do new additional effects eventually)
you guys should use the assault dice app and just show the screen in one of the corners. easier and faster. Excellent work, love watching and learning. Keep it up!
Glad to see some fellowb Templars. I've seen more this month than before on this channel
45:10 correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the marines other than Helbrect cannot consolidate. In order to consolidate (and pile on earlier in the fight phase) a chosen unit must have enemy models within an inch of them. So the marine squad cannot "be chosen" to fight and therefore skip the fight phase entirely, and thus do not consolidate. Helbrect would get to consolidate due to him being chosen to fight, and at that point having hostile models within an inch of himself.
The marine squad cannot be chosen because Helbrect killed the unit they charged. Sorry I didn't clarify that 100%
I swear that black Templar dude has one bendy finger
Tau blood actually is a bluish purple that turns to yellow as it is oxygenated, so I guess he made a cool air effect.
Page 178 - Re-rolls
Change this paragraph to read:
‘Some rules allow you to re-roll a dice roll, which means
you get to roll some or all of the dice again. If a rule
allows you to re-roll a result that was made by adding
several dice together (e.g. 2D6, 3D6, etc.) then, unless
otherwise stated, you must roll all of those dice again.
You can never re-roll a dice more than once, and re-rolls
happen before modifiers (if any) are applied.’
Tiny nitpick: it doesn't make sense to shorten Cadre Fireblade to just cadre. Cadre is the entire fighting group and Fireblade is a title within that group.
can anyone tell me why they got 24 shots during the overwatch??
This was an interesting battle to watch. I may now have to try out Black Templars when I get the chance.
3:24 The finger break...zero fucks lol.
Hey look an Emperors Champion!
More Templar!
" The Emperor protects " :D
Spaghetti fingers
19:00 the pulse carbines count as the piranha firing it so you wouldve hit on 3's, not 4's.
i became a member at MWG just at the right time!!!!! The Emperor Protects!!!!! as long as theres black templar related content you will see me become a life time member!!!!
that tatchikoma shirt is sick boi
Cullen, the Fusion Collider is just D3 shots. You were robbing yourself of extemely valuable fusion shots.
The Cyclic Ion Raker has the overcharge option.
For the fight against the fire warriors at around the 1:00 hr mark. Black templars automatically reroll any failed charges due to the new codex. I had a question on the charge did you utilize your extra attacks during that phase of combat? Also from my understanding tau blood is cobalt based so it ranges from Blue to Purple.
FYI, Templars can re roll failed charge rolls without using a command point.
it was cool how he used mark 3 marines!
it realy fits the black templars
T'au blood is blue.
The lore says that Tau blood uses cobalt not iron to distribute oxygen through the body, and consequently that Tau blood is cobalt blue.
I feel obliged to point out that in the real world oxidized cobalt would be red or brown not blue.
i love it to see that you write Black Templars vs Tau - not Space Marines vs Tau. BECAUSE WE HAD A OWN DEX AND WE ARE IN THE WRONG NOW - ITS NOT OUR DEX.
i'm glad i'm not the only one upset about the lack of love our templars have received. that said... we are the only succesor chapter that had its own codex (as far as i know, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong anyone)
absolutly correct ;)
i've been told that the fire warriors make 4 rolls under the fireblades rule not 3, something about the wording of shot being defined under shooting attacks
GullwingYunie no. The extra shot doesn't use the Rapid fire profile, it's an extra shot not an extra attack (which would use the same profile, thus giving 4 rather than 3 shots). You get 2 for being in rapid fire, and 1 additional for the Volley Fire rule.
When the rhino charged the ghostkeel that was three shots, it rolls a d3 for number of shots so the rhino might not have died
You have to roll the number of shots for the fusion collider first and hit after that.
Second bat rep in a row that ive had no audio, just the visual. Hopefully youtube will fix this soon
Just curious, but at 10:30 if the first rank is at the bottom of the building and the second rank is at the top, are they still in cohesion?
You deep striked your suits way to close to close combat danger mate, if the enemy are in transports fire at a longer range as they must disembark first and not after the transport moves.
crisisgear just as a spectator it looked like a serious mistake to drop so many high power shooting units within charge distance of the enemy. Especially enemies with such good melee. Throwing away a lot of power points on turn one. Tau seem like they should stay as far away from the enemy as possible and grouped up to take advantage of that mass over watch.
2:15 that finger xD
Since the drones attached to a Piranha is considered embarked, shouldn't they then have been disembarked at the Piranha's destruction?
hey Matt nice Tachikoma (ghost in the shell) shirt and you forgot repair on your rhino?
If that was a melta shot from Helbrecht at 29:24 it would have rolled damage twice and taken the higher because it was in melta range.
Saw a mistake; Tau commander only has a 3+ save, not a 2+.
Anvil industry assault squad sergeant
ethereal buff sense of stone in the first turn would have been good to get the extra saves
Don't Black Termplars re-roll charges? Could have been useful at 35:00
You guys say the black templar player has freaky fingers - I say the Tau play's voice is high pitch and cracks every time with silly narrative
nothing like some xenos purging to start a good day
I think I missed something in the FAQ why are Shield drones useless?
Where can I buy a Black Templar set?
Love the sound effects
Tau blood is blue in the lore due to it being cobalt but science says it would be yellow so take that information as you will
does anyone know where the sword/model of the emperor's champion is from?
I like the new music being used
I've yet to see someone using the Remora Drones... Anyone know if they're any good in 8th edition?
what model is that emperors champion or is it all custom?
Can a unit or character with a +2 save receive the +1 benefit to there saving throw from being in cover against shooting attacks?
Russ G yeah but it would take effect when there was an ap that knocked any of your save off
no cover bonus for 4+ markerlights!
dude, when a vehicle has drones attached, the vehicle shoots with the drones weapons, this means that you do not use the drones ballistic skill, you use the vehicle's ballistic skill. the plasma rifles in the crisis had AP-3, not -1, sorry pal, I don't want to sound negative, but it feels bad when you make mistakes again, you were very unlucky on first turn! tau'va
Víctor Augusto Rodríguez Talonia oh he did that again? Seems like he did not read his own Kommentare Last time... Oh well. I am in the parade part of the video now so I will let me suprise ...
And at 19 minutes did not reroll ANY of his ones-I couldn't watch it any further after that.
It’s black templars turn one and I just noticed that the blueberries are going to get scronched
The drones would have given 1st blood since they count as their own unit after deployment
black templars don’t give a half ounce of the emperors shit about the fact you are a 10 ft tall mecha suit made with some of the most advanced tech in the galaxy they are going to do what they always do run up and smack you with a big sword
PUUUURGING WITH MY KIN
Hey , Great Gaming map, whats the Name of the Shop , where i can get it??
26:35 didn't the drones give him first blood?
Jerzy Szynal Di: they kill a unit?
What I ment is that the drones were killed befor the broadsite
yes, because the drones themselves are a unit. I'm pretty sure all drones start with their full units (ex. battlesuit with drones is the starting unit) and then the drones break away as their own unit in the movement phase.
The Emperor doesn't protect against cringe 😓
Isnt a Command reroll only once pr Turn? Pretty sure they rerolled more than once in a single turn
What's the model used for the Emperor's Champion?
Dreamforge Games Valkir Assault Troopers
The black templar flyer is only T6
Where can I buy such buildings/ruins? :)
With "Kahdreyh" fireblade he means cadre fireblade, right? xD
Can you put multiple units in a land raider?
Are the black templars a reapaint of a previous army or you just like mark 3
Don't Templars get to re-roll charge distance?
Ay I have the jump pack from the assault squads sergeant. It's from anvil industries. It's awesome!
Glad to see the BT viable again.
I refuse to watch any videos with that Chaos mutated finger.
THUNDER FISTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do u guys think that black templar is competitive on 8th edition ?