Wouldnt be surprised if Ohlins are 'prerecording' variable settings with telemetry in practice runs and then playing those variables back during race runs- avoiding any need for button pressing. Something along those lines anyhow
Been arguing with a buddy for a while on this. I was thinking they pass beacons on the course that instruct it to switch damping profiles. He said they could do it real easily with a geo fence. I'm thinking now it's just simple buttons and bluetooth though. Real simple 3 buttons for 3 different settings profiles. 3 lights on the top cap to confirm what you're on.
@@CoderShare Cba looking for any footage now - But hasnt it been spotted in pov ride videos from Loic that he presses them a couple of times on a run? Im sure it could make it automatically also, but if that reads a few meters wrong, it could go quite bad I would imagine. It working as some form of simpler telemetry or at least data collection tool for all brands is most likely certain. Having it collect every single run, even competition runs would be a nice benefit Anyways, knowing how consumer flight attendant works on other bikes, we can probably pretty safely assume its just a compression setting on the fly. Mid setting for fast stuff, fully open for rough, and quite firm in flat takeoffs/ramps up to jumps. And as the already available flight attendant, most likely has a free fall sensor so it fully unlocks in the air. And this goes for rockshox/fox/öhlins. Would be cool with something super unique that no one has thought about before, but most likely its probably a pretty boring just compression switch on the fly.
Concept bits and pieces. Its not that new I think, FOX' semi circulating GRIP damper apparently comes from MX forks. You know, the part where the damper oil is also the lube oil in the right stanchion that gets sucked through the sealhead into the damper cartridge and eventually bleeds out at the top along with any air that inevitably gets into every closed cartridge - a self bleeding damper, so to speak. Adjusting damping settings on the fly as the track and rider requires it, is only a logical step for any fork and shock manufacturer. But I think Jordi is right when he says the ideal would be a means to have this done automatically (within reasonable limits and with proper thresholds to not make it go bonkers if the track changes rapidly) as opposed to pushing buttons, which is probably what happens in Moto GP and definitely in Formula 1.
Been saying it for a while. Shocks are mapped. Valve settings automatically switch at a different section of the track based on what they determine during practice. Flat section...damping switches. Shelves and deep holes. Telemetry synced to a GPS or other elevation/distance detection device.
World Cup DH riders are every bit the athlete that MotoGP riders are. So I see no disconnect. No one can afford a MotoGP bike; no one can afford a Spesh Future Demo.
all this tech talk that most of us will never experience nor can afford....for the average rider a lot of terminology will go over our heads....i just care that bike rides well and is within my budget...i never will drop 5k or more on any bike....in the end a bike is just as good as the rider makes it...
5:52 a broken front Enve rim. Why would you pay double SC Reserve money for only a 5 year warranty and they brake like this? I bet the Reserve Alloy HD rim would have he up.
I've always liked that fox guy Jordi but he seems really negative lately...if somone brain can operate at the level of racing and understanding wich setting there in ..there is nothing but benefits he talking about old tech...the new ones are wireless way faster more efficient..rock shox is way above fox when it comes to electronic shifting and parts .. and like Bruni has 3 different settings he obviously one fortwilliam because he used it in the top section that is completely flat and was up by 1.5 seconds
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Norco is all business this season. How sick is that getting a new rear end out that quick.
So good to see the Frameworks guys up and running!
8:40 I can’t believe Greg is going to try and ride this weekend. Unreal!
Wouldnt be surprised if Ohlins are 'prerecording' variable settings with telemetry in practice runs and then playing those variables back during race runs- avoiding any need for button pressing. Something along those lines anyhow
Been arguing with a buddy for a while on this. I was thinking they pass beacons on the course that instruct it to switch damping profiles. He said they could do it real easily with a geo fence.
I'm thinking now it's just simple buttons and bluetooth though. Real simple 3 buttons for 3 different settings profiles.
3 lights on the top cap to confirm what you're on.
@@CoderShare Cba looking for any footage now - But hasnt it been spotted in pov ride videos from Loic that he presses them a couple of times on a run? Im sure it could make it automatically also, but if that reads a few meters wrong, it could go quite bad I would imagine. It working as some form of simpler telemetry or at least data collection tool for all brands is most likely certain. Having it collect every single run, even competition runs would be a nice benefit
Anyways, knowing how consumer flight attendant works on other bikes, we can probably pretty safely assume its just a compression setting on the fly. Mid setting for fast stuff, fully open for rough, and quite firm in flat takeoffs/ramps up to jumps. And as the already available flight attendant, most likely has a free fall sensor so it fully unlocks in the air. And this goes for rockshox/fox/öhlins. Would be cool with something super unique that no one has thought about before, but most likely its probably a pretty boring just compression switch on the fly.
liking what Jordi says about lock outs!
always bringing the goods
I’m no Luddite…. But that’s a lot of electronics. Analog boy in a digital world.
I was expecting the question to be what happened to dialed 😂
Can't wait to be there and watch those boyz shreding! best :)
Rockshox: hey! I'm using my Flight Attendant in DHI races. Öhlins and Fox: Why didn't I think of this before?
Still much worse than öhlins
Ohlins have had an electronically adjustable shock with a brain for years 🤣
Ever since they started covering the shock.
A lot of faffing, that’s what mtb’s F1 is all about 🤗🤘
Miss the days John tomac wins dh races with a CC bike
Rad and flight attendant sound promising for enduro bikes more than downhill bikes
UCI needs to get on top of this. A few presets on the suspension that the rider can manually select is fine, but no adaptive suspension.
Is that a commercially available mechanical remote lockout lever? (The mechanical one)
Yes it’s usually used for remote lockout XC forks and shocks
@@willshw3642 do you happen to know the model? Might want one for my dreadnought (the switch is hard to reach at speed)
2:23 is it just me or does it look like the rear caliper is only contacting half the rotor?? I’m curious if there’s a reason behind this??
Awesome bikes i like canyon
please ask norco team what bike stands they are using, that alloy clamp looks mint :)
Feedback sports (you can see it in the video)
@@ZachSchaller-b5m didnt notice, thanks!
The Fox Team has their plates full, look at all those shox! @6:59
Szczyrk 😁
Greg Minaar is built different - separated shoulder is seriously sore.
More & more electronics... professional hacker finds the frequency - disarmed 🙃🤷♂
Did he just mention Moto GP technology on a mountain bike?
Concept bits and pieces. Its not that new I think, FOX' semi circulating GRIP damper apparently comes from MX forks. You know, the part where the damper oil is also the lube oil in the right stanchion that gets sucked through the sealhead into the damper cartridge and eventually bleeds out at the top along with any air that inevitably gets into every closed cartridge - a self bleeding damper, so to speak.
Adjusting damping settings on the fly as the track and rider requires it, is only a logical step for any fork and shock manufacturer. But I think Jordi is right when he says the ideal would be a means to have this done automatically (within reasonable limits and with proper thresholds to not make it go bonkers if the track changes rapidly) as opposed to pushing buttons, which is probably what happens in Moto GP and definitely in Formula 1.
Been saying it for a while. Shocks are mapped. Valve settings automatically switch at a different section of the track based on what they determine during practice. Flat section...damping switches. Shelves and deep holes. Telemetry synced to a GPS or other elevation/distance detection device.
World Cup DH riders are every bit the athlete that MotoGP riders are. So I see no disconnect. No one can afford a MotoGP bike; no one can afford a Spesh Future Demo.
bing bong
all this tech talk that most of us will never experience nor can afford....for the average rider a lot of terminology will go over our heads....i just care that bike rides well and is within my budget...i never will drop 5k or more on any bike....in the end a bike is just as good as the rider makes it...
5:52 a broken front Enve rim. Why would you pay double SC Reserve money for only a 5 year warranty and they brake like this? I bet the Reserve Alloy HD rim would have he up.
I've always liked that fox guy Jordi but he seems really negative lately...if somone brain can operate at the level of racing and understanding wich setting there in ..there is nothing but benefits he talking about old tech...the new ones are wireless way faster more efficient..rock shox is way above fox when it comes to electronic shifting and parts .. and like Bruni has 3 different settings he obviously one fortwilliam because he used it in the top section that is completely flat and was up by 1.5 seconds
Don't care about an espresso machine or indulgences. Just get to the nuts & bolts...🙄🤢
Theres more electronics on those bikes than on my Levo
The frenchies say uhhhhh and ahhhhhh ALOT😂