Damn definetly one of the most exting games I've watched. Constant back and forth and those manticores doing so much work almost turned the game at some point
Norse players always seem to forget Berserkers. They are cheap cannon fodder of your army, and once you give them at least medium upgrade they kinda start to punch up, especially because they have few mythic upgrades. Heck, some minor gods specifically boost them and Hersis.
I played a match yesterday as Thor. Berserkers are pretty insane for raiding. I snuck one back behind the enemy bases and built some longhouses and would send out raiding parties of berserks. They shred through villagers like crazy
In classic AoM I know Manticores are my go-to in campaign, because they just annihilate attack waves, plus you get Apollo's healing around temples, and it all makes for very effective defense until you're able to attack stuff. But in PvP idk.. I mean, especially now that Norse gets ranged heroes, it doesn't seem like such a great counter to everything
I think the manticores probably need tuned down a bit, for how much damage AND how fast they are, but I do really think Odin would have benefitted from going into some Godi alongside the frost giants
No, the manticore don't need to be nerfed, players just need to start respecting the myth units. The Odin player needed to stop spamming human soldiers and instead build some heroes.
I don't think manticore needs that much of a nerf. People just need to learn how to fight them & against them. Split your army, focus them with heroes & good myth units. Or do the fun thing & get a Titan. Not just because I want to see Titan fights lol
@@BilgeKaanAtay its not imbalanced at all. All egyptians can destroy myth units including manticores easily from 24 range away. Norse cavalry and huskarls doesnt take much damage from them and they are fast enough to dodge, and hersirs destroy them. Atlanteas can heroise their army, so complete counter. All in all, manticores work only against Greeks. All myth units needs effort to take them down and manticores are the same
The pro players are so stubborn it is crazy, manticore spam? Dude ,build Godi ranged hero and counter manticore, buuut nooo he did the old way how he played titans, omg.The game could end lot sooner.
Exactly... At least if ur going to be using human soldiers like the axeman then upgrade them as soon as possible cause their damage output and hp isn't great
When I am in this defensive position and run out of gold, then I build a market to generate some. Even if town centers are close. I think that's better than sending villigers to the front line :D
@@theexiledking1608 if loki as OP, we would see lots and lots of LOKI and loki winning, but what we are seeing is lots and lots os Zeus, and Zeus Winning Almost Always. that just the facts.
Yeah. I wish norse had some kind of ranged hero they could make instead of being forced to spam vulnerable axemen all game... Oh well, maybe next expansion.
@@ShiroAisu10 I really do hope they get Berserkers in that second expansion as well! For such iconic Norse warrior class, it kinda sucks they aren't in the game.
I've watched AoM matches for years now and this is the best game I've ever seen. Absolutely fantastic!
Loving these castings! Hilarious how you got so excited at 19:11 that you forgot to bleep yourself XD Keep these coming!
Damn definetly one of the most exting games I've watched. Constant back and forth and those manticores doing so much work almost turned the game at some point
At a certain point it felt like a game of Rock, paper, scissors where one player forgets that rock is an option. Nonetheless a great game.
Norse players always seem to forget Berserkers. They are cheap cannon fodder of your army, and once you give them at least medium upgrade they kinda start to punch up, especially because they have few mythic upgrades. Heck, some minor gods specifically boost them and Hersis.
I played a match yesterday as Thor. Berserkers are pretty insane for raiding. I snuck one back behind the enemy bases and built some longhouses and would send out raiding parties of berserks. They shred through villagers like crazy
In classic AoM I know Manticores are my go-to in campaign, because they just annihilate attack waves, plus you get Apollo's healing around temples, and it all makes for very effective defense until you're able to attack stuff.
But in PvP idk.. I mean, especially now that Norse gets ranged heroes, it doesn't seem like such a great counter to everything
I think the manticores probably need tuned down a bit, for how much damage AND how fast they are, but I do really think Odin would have benefitted from going into some Godi alongside the frost giants
29:20 poor minotaur, he was having a field day slaughtering innocents and then Ragnarok
Best retold game I’ve seen, and I’ve seen plenty
Fantastic game. Worth a rewatch, too.
Did anyone else notice the villager at 0:24?
what's he doing to that piece of meat? 😟
No, the manticore don't need to be nerfed, players just need to start respecting the myth units. The Odin player needed to stop spamming human soldiers and instead build some heroes.
Yrah idk why he didnt, almost lost cuz of it. Awful thinking.
very much enjoying your aom casts fitzbro
Those the relic that increases villiagers attack work with ragnarok?
it doesn't, raknarok heroes aren't villagers
@@arturoalarcondonate4034 sadge
I don't think manticore needs that much of a nerf. People just need to learn how to fight them & against them. Split your army, focus them with heroes & good myth units.
Or do the fun thing & get a Titan. Not just because I want to see Titan fights lol
Are you taking too much effort to the other myth units? That's why its imbalanced.
@@BilgeKaanAtay You should be.
@@BilgeKaanAtay its not imbalanced at all. All egyptians can destroy myth units including manticores easily from 24 range away. Norse cavalry and huskarls doesnt take much damage from them and they are fast enough to dodge, and hersirs destroy them. Atlanteas can heroise their army, so complete counter.
All in all, manticores work only against Greeks. All myth units needs effort to take them down and manticores are the same
The pro players are so stubborn it is crazy, manticore spam? Dude ,build Godi ranged hero and counter manticore, buuut nooo he did the old way how he played titans, omg.The game could end lot sooner.
Exactly... At least if ur going to be using human soldiers like the axeman then upgrade them as soon as possible cause their damage output and hp isn't great
Ikr
They have deep ingrained muscle memory of the old ways, we have our window to beat them ! Only those who adapt survive ;)
Odin está demasiado OP mis respetos al que le pudo aguantar el ragnarok, se convirtió en el poder divino más desbalanceado.
When I am in this defensive position and run out of gold, then I build a market to generate some. Even if town centers are close.
I think that's better than sending villigers to the front line :D
splash damage is deadly in a chokepoint.
Norse got Balistae.
I guess if using Ragnarok some ranged units help a lot.
This game makes for some excellent matches
best game i've seen of retold
Lol
Like u can literally see the result but it just keep on giving
😂
Your voice is real soothing
Pegasus so lazy not using enough god powers 😂
looks like mantycore will be nerfed soon, otherwise, there will be no reason to play anything else
Manticores should be nerfed. One unit dominating over all others is not what balance is about.
Yeah because manticores are the problem 😂 The spammable Loki heroes the spammable elephants etc are the epitome of balance.....
After 20 years of complaining Norse players get a ranged hero, then the Zeus mains goes and plays Norse and doesn't make the ranged hero
@@theexiledking1608 if loki as OP, we would see lots and lots of LOKI and loki winning, but what we are seeing is lots and lots os Zeus, and Zeus Winning Almost Always. that just the facts.
Yeah. I wish norse had some kind of ranged hero they could make instead of being forced to spam vulnerable axemen all game...
Oh well, maybe next expansion.
@@ShiroAisu10 I really do hope they get Berserkers in that second expansion as well! For such iconic Norse warrior class, it kinda sucks they aren't in the game.
lmfao @ magic being the best player in the world. Magyar and Spoeft >>>>>>