Gothic (the 2001 RPG and the remake teaser)
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There is always something behind a waterfall. A chest, an opening or disappointment
I remember when I was teaching my elderly mother to play video games, she asked why I beelined to every waterfall whenever they'd show up.
How adorable.
She loved FFX, Mount and Blade Warband, Civ 5&6, and Final Fantasy Tactics, unfortunately after her stroke she can't play much more than Animal Crossing, but for a while she was the coolest 60 year old around.
funny cause recent community made mod for g2 (Chronicles of Myrtana) addressed seen disappointment :D
@@planescaped Why was your elderly mother playing videogames?
@@INFILTR8US Why not?
8:04
In life all I've ever found behind a real waterfall
is hypothermia
The fact that improving your skill with weapons actually changes your combat animations, making them smoother and easier to use, as opposed to just increasing the damage you deal, alone makes Gothic I + II amazing in my book.
Kenshi is the only other game that does that that I can think of
In Post USSR Russian speaking countries, this game was a blast. Mainly due to the atmosphere and the story, but as well the gameplay. Russian voice was insanely good which has contributed a lot to the popularity.
Was it an... oblast?
Exactly the same situation in Poland.
Completely agree. Russian dub and the game's atmosphere made me love the first three games in the series, and I still remember many phrases from all three games that have been memefied by russian communities to hell.
Ya can't bait the Polish dub.
never got my hands on it myself, but everyone at school that I talked to as a kid knew and loved this game
It is a crime that Piranha Bytes hasn't received a Nobel Peace Prize yet for the greatest act of reconciliation between Germany and Poland in post-WW2 history.
This is my unironic opinion, btw. Piranha Bytes deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for this. Gothic brings Germans and Poles together, as well as Russians.
Indeed! And the following in Poland is not "smaller" by any bit. It's a huge cultural phenomenon here, if you go quote Gothic character dialogue in a group of people, there will be at least one person who will start giggling and responding. Remixes and memes are created to this very day.
This is the western equivalent of a chinese and japanese person bonding over anime.
You shoud also give Westwood that prize for improving US-Russia relations with Red Alert 2.
@@Callaxes How kawaii.
Agreed before gothic only things I knew of germans was still apparent communist propaganda but after I played it I became more interested in history and culture and fell in love with Deutschland
The game was also very popular in Czechia. I myself was (am) more of a Morrowind fan, but otherwise I'd say that Gothic is the more popular of these two here.
"Dann hau ich dir volles Pfund aufs Maul."
and
"Lass uns Wildschweine jagen gehen."
were probably the first memes that I can remember.
Now, that I heard the english version, I see that it lacks the "roughness" and "snappy-ness" that the german one had. In my personal opinion it followed in the footsteps of the Bud Spencer and Terence Hill movies, which were big hits in Germany, because of the german localization that not only elevated but made these movies. Rainer Brandt more or less "invented" the fast pace, rough, one liner- and punchline-heavy style. Difficult to emulate in the english language.
Here, in Poland, Gothic series is still legendary and nearly every dude knows the games, characters and even some specific dialogues or quotes. I was a kid when the second game was released and I remember the excitement and hype, though it was my elder brother who had played, not me personally.
I'm sure that polish guys at age 20-35 love Gothic as one of the best experiences of their gamers' life but I'm not sure about the yonger ones right now. Hope they've heard of the series too.
Cheers!
Im from germany and quite young (under 20) and sadly most peolpe my age have never heard of gothic. Its quite sad
Can't wait to see you do eventually do Risen
Ayyyy it da homie
Holy shits it's the guy
Daniil did nothing wrong
Fuck the Town 😎
Lmao, love seeing when bigger youtubers show up for more niche stuff
Hey it's that one creepy stalker dude
Believe it or not but this game was a huge inspiration for CD Projekt Red when they were working on first The Witcher game. Now The Withcer 3 is a worldwide success
I remember picking up Gothic on a whim here in California... and man. The jank was real. The running, the awkward combat, the horrible tedium... I loved every second of it. The world felt enormous and real. The music hooked me. The story was awesome. I adore Gothic.
It is a game focused on gameplay, not graphics, effects and hype. I actually really hate graphics by now! Show me a new game with fotorealistic graphics and perfect engine and I already smell the tedium of playing that mechanically executed piece of graphic designers brain shit and start vomiting at the screen!
@@ratatoskr1069 well... the gameplay sucks.
Thanks for the channel. Got me playing Arcanum, Baldurs Gate 2, Olympus, and Planescape Torment. They looked so good but impenetrable, but your channel has helped me get past all that to enjoy the games for what they are and not what I want them to be.
Whqt are the fing chances i hear about planescape torment for the third time today in completely unrelated contexts
6:14 It absolutely is good advice IRL. Speaking as someone who does HEMA (historical fencing) you never wanna hold a sword with two hands unless it is designed to do so. It is always to your advantage to hold it with one hand as long as it is not too heavy to swing effectively. One handed weapons give benefits to range, speed, and agency in a duel. The most effective combination of weapons in all of renaissance era swordsmanship is a one handed sword in your dominant hand and a dagger in your non dominant.
I don't even think you need to do HEMA to realize that holding something with two hands just means you need to move two arms around which... isn't helpful
@@colbyboucher6391 I agree, but might as well establish credibility tho right?
@@colbyboucher6391 It is helpful if the weapon is build for it. Two hands give you leverage which allows you to change directions and react a lot more nimbly. But the hilt needs to be long enough to give you the leverage, but a long handle makes the sword really impractical when using it with a shield.
Ah yes Gothic, the best Polish game made by Germans
There is still a cult following for this game in Poland, you should check out Chronicles of Myrtana mod which came out like a month or two ago, and it's basically like a full lore acurate spinoff game based on G2 engine with 60+ hours of gameplay woth, some rly decent work.
Also in germany There even is a group makin an entire audiobook on spotify of Gothic 1&2 (1 is already long done)
I remember being 12 or 13 when I fell in love with Morrowind and general reaction I got when I brought that I up amongst older RPG nerds was something along the lines of: "BAAH! You like Morrowind?! That's a BABY game! You must be a stupid BABY for liking it! Repetitive quests, no characters, bad combat. Morrowind's dumb, try Gothic instead, much better game."
The impression I got was that Gothic was the more successful game at the time, while Morrowind was something that you were ashamed to admit you enjoyed.
Of course I didn't understand what sales were back then or the concept of commercial success. So I was genuinely floored when I learned much later on how big of a success Morrowind was, how it buried every other competition at a time when amazing games where coming out.
Morrowind's core strengths are very different from Gothic's. While Gothic focuses more on having a tightly-focused, fully-realized world and characters, Morrowind (and TES in general) tends to focus more on making the world as open and large as possible and creating more room for player expression. Morrowind's combat is... not good, but it also gives the player a lot more options for breaking it in half, particularly when Magic becomes involved. Lack of full voice acting in MW also means that, while most of the characters are much flatter overall, there's a lot more information that can be conveyed to the player through dialogue.
your videos are so therapeutic man, reviews on par with ross scott's game dungeon and with a way more consistent upload schedule. as an english native your accent is so much kinder on the ears than his kind of midwest non-accent. hope your channel blows up
I'm always impressed at your ability to release videos in a timely manner. I will enjoy this over dinner.
In Poland this is one of the biggest game ever. Gothic and sequel with Night of the Raven Expansion (especially!) are my all time classic. Love it.
I think the main problem for Gothic outside of Germany is that the character building relies (almost) solely on the excellent dialoge and its voice acting. From what I´ve seen in your video alot was lost in translation. The open world etc was good for its time but obviously thats long past. But I still come back to Gothic sometimes nowadays to slaughter some Trolls with Gorn, Lares, Diego and Milten. ^^
Yeah, for a proper American release, this game ought to be voiced by popular prison-movie actors or something. Considering the camps clearly take some inspiration from American prison gangs, what's with all the Hispanic surnames and hierarchy of Old Camp or the tattooed baldness of Swamp Camp.
YEP. The english voice acting is really REALLY weak in comparison while the german (and i guess russian and polish one too) are just simply excellent and make the characters memorable and overall atmosphere great. Its just sad to see that most lines that would be classics are completely butchered or voiced badly for example "Baal" Netbek at 15:43 sounds completely delusional in the german version and its hilarious
@@Loromir17 I first played the English release and honestly anything else sounds unnatural to me. Maybe it is an inferior version, but I hope the remake at least has an option to select original vs improved voices.
As an American who played the games, I imagine that with Gothic 1 & 2 the combat in those games could turn some people away which is a shame since it had its share of fun along with the dialogue and exploring the Penal Colony and the Island of Khorinis. Can't say much on the voice acting other than that it does have its share of bad acting. Never forgetting the one mad templar with the focus stone who sounded like a stoned-out surfer dude rather than some fanatical templar or Cor Kalom yelling for the Sleeper to awaken only to sound more like a wrestling announcer than a deranged man hailing his dark god.
@@Chinothebad it obviously doesn´t fit the mood of the scene but to be honest Cor Kalom as a wrestling announcer just makes me laugh so much :D
I've played all kinds of RPGs (cRPGs , ARPGs, JRPGs etc) but Gothic is still by far my favorite, nothing comes close to it!
What about Kingdome Come: Deliverance ?
@@benjaminsente7430 Doesn't that one get a lot of criticism for it's combat? I've heard things like "it's needlessly complex" and the sort. I remember everyone was hyped when it came out but it's hype died pretty quick.
@@DarkOmegaMK2 Well. The Combat system is not intuitive. You actually have study/practise it ingame. Complex? Certainly. But that gives the player also opportunities to create different styles and approaches. I fought with a bow most of the time (game fully patched) and I have to say it wasn´t a realistic experience because of the inconsistent balistic and hitboxes. It was really frustrating at times but you learn to deal with it using the bow very selectively.
@@DarkOmegaMK2 Dunno, but I do know that it has one of the longest fucking introductions in all of gaming. You walk around from cutscene trigger to cutscene trigger doing practically nothing for three hours just watching cinematics. Easiest way to get people to drop your game - by not having any gameplay to entice them.
Do not fall for his slavic Lies, there are ways to deliver the letter as a novice or rogue without paying the 1000 ore
The "lost in translation" wasn't really imo. He was just laughing at you for thinking the "better" new camp was what he had for years considered to be the crummy old camp that's literally under a bridge and out of the way. It'd be like if you went to a large and expanding city and asked if the upper class district was what used to be the upper class district 40 years ago but was now the slums. A native would laugh at that mistake.
If you haven't played Divine Divinity before, that's an interesting old school RPG game
Finally you went ahead and tackled the Gothic series, my favorite RPG series of all time! Such good games! (Gothic and Gothic 2: NotR.)
Oh, wow, I actually recently replayed Gothic 1 & 2 this year and played Gothic 3 for the first time afterwards, too. I'm happy to see you covering this. Gothic 1 & 2 are still amazing in producing a world that feels inhabited, immersive and believeable. That has always been my favourite thing to enjoy in RPGs, ever since I played Ultima VII as a (way too young at the time) child and I was blown away seeing NPCs following schedules and me being able to bake bread by mixing flour and water.
Gothic 3 was a bit of a disappointment to me - and I had the pleasure of playing the patched up version years after. The world felt empty in comparison, and towns felt inhabited by replaceable no-ones instead of people. By the end I felt like I was just playing to finish up the story of one of my youth enjoyments after all those years. I started on the expansion and couldn't bother to go beyond the starting quest. I also genuinely felt the combat in part 1 felt better than in part 3. Once you get used to the controls, itˋs still janky, sure, but it works well enough. Kind of this weird experimentation from before controls were fully standardised across the industry.
Also, yes, as others mentioned - the German voiceacting is way better overall, and it was very good for the time, but it definitely also had some subpar moments.
It's funny you mention you don't remember anyone but Diego because Gothic players (including me) know EVERYONE in the first two games.
It get's easier in the sequel where each NPC is connected to side quest or has bigger role. The guy who teaches you how to fight with one-handed sword in New Camp? He's big buffed guy in the sequel who can be blackmailed by you which connects to at least 4 quests.
Love this game. A shame it wasn't more popular.
I must say that I really enjoy your style. Watching your videos I feel like I'm being taken through a guided tour of a place that exists rather than being told the summary of a videogame.
I loved Gothic 1 far more than 2. While I do think that 2 is the better game overall there is a je ne sais quoi about Gothic 1 that makes it my favorite.
The world seems far more interesting in Gothic 1. It seems like there are secrets everywhere and humanity is just small part of huge world. In Gothic 2 it is all clear and disapointing but the social interactions got better.
@@38procentkrytyk Every consecutive Gothics are just a rescaling of G1. First Gothic's world was small enough to be meticulously (and meaningfully) designed, Second and especially Third one are too big for its engine (and Piranha ability) and were just locations with wast Nothing in between.
Seriously, Warlockracy is one of my favorite damn TH-camrs. His videos are informative and entertaining, he does good games, and that accent of his is somehow authoritative and yet inviting.
Man, I'll never forget Gothic 1. I remember first playing it at a friend's place, and as immature kids that we were, we promptly used the console to give ourselves the best stuff. Then later I played it a bit more fairly, but exploited the blade and meat duplication bug haha. I'm guessing that's exactly what you were doing yourself rapidly roasting meat like that, or at least it instantly reminded me of the exploit.
I don't remember how many times I played it, but I do recall at one point I finished it but was so desperate for more I looked for mods that added quests, and there were like 1 or 2, but I never got them to work. I think I still ran a 4:3 monitor back then, at 1240x1024 or something like that. Man, the nostalgia. Thanks for making this video, it's pure nostalgia fuel for me. Loving it!
And so began Piranha Bytes' long career of making the same exact game with the same exact protagonist with slightly different skins to this very day.
In my opinion the late 90's early 2000's was the golden age of PC gaming. I remember playing System Shock 2, Deus Ex, Battlezone 1, Vampire TMB and many others from this era. Then flash bang console type games generally dumbed down made their entrance.
Back then publisher released many Games per year. now you have to wait years for a single game
@@robertschumacher9640but on the other hand they keep releasing the same game year after year again.
But I totally agree that ca 95-07 was a golden age. So many amazing games of all genres, games that are still great today.
One handed swords should not be held with both hands unless you are trying to halfsword. Using both hands lowers your reach and exposes more of your dominant side (right side for most people) to enemy attacks. This is why two-handed swords are so long, in order to compensate for the lower reach.
Yes, it was just a bad take tbh
Just started replaying Gothic 1 a few days ago and it still holds up, as long as you use the alternate control scheme.
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soo... they made the dialogue a dialogue wheel where what you say is indicated by one or two words per choice so you have to guess what your character says while the freedom has been removed and only the combat and looks have been polished a bit but nothing much to write home about? Are those the Fallout 4 devs making the rerelease?
Holding a weapon with two hands can actually be bad, especially if the weapon has little handspace, or the second hand would hinder the movement. A hatchet would be worse with two hands, same with a rapier, an arming sword usually is best with one hand, unless it has a longer grip. I think the one handed trainer is simply generalising, instead of going into a multi hour Tanget over specifics of how to hold a weapon.
I had the one of the shittiest days of my life but I know this video will make it better. Thank you
Stay strong m8
@@Warlockracy thank you ❤️
I have my reserva about the remake but it was stated that it is pre alpha to get feedback,so I think waiting to judge it on release.
I'm from germany and this is the only game I LOVE the german translation for, it is so well made and I recommend this game to everyone thanks for making this vid my hero!
It's not a translation, it's the original dubbing. Obviously everything works well together.
Only 20 minutes in but I bought the Gothic World pack on Steam and got Gothic 1, 2, and 3 for $4. After hearing about them for so long your video finally made me cave and get them when they were cheap.
I just adore your style of narration. Im sick and quarantined at home. Somehow went down the rabbit hole and ended up binging your content.
Always makes my day when you release a new video. Time to listen to this one 12 times in a row.
Talking to yourself can be a form of stimming? Well howdy, you just gave me a revelation.
To this day one of the best ways a limited game world is done. No invisible walls or ocean monsters. Just a lore explanation for why the world has a certain size. Well done.
Blessed with another video. Happy to have found your channel.
Always good when you drop a video, excellent work as always.
love your content man, been subscribed for a few months now and it is almost as if it was tailored for me. every game youve covered i played too.. anyway, very good, keep up the fantastic work.
Great video as always man, just discovered your channel a bit ago and have watched every video you've put out in a binge this last week, even re-watching several. Was excited to see the notification for this video when I woke up earlier. Excited to see that next Fallout video you mentioned at the end, or even possibly Witcher 1! I replayed all the Witcher games last year and found Witcher 1 pretty good, a little sufferable at times with some bad back to back combat encounters and needless backtracking. But the story itself and many of the side quests were enjoyable. It also presented a fairly unique tone compared to the other games, kinda surreal and more I guess... Fairy tale-esque? Some dissonance for sure. Gothic I've tried to get into but can't, but have played their later game, Elex. Anyways, again, fun video and keep it up!
Another banger from Warlock, good stuff
gothic 2 was so much fun
Lol, I just started to play it for the first time a month ago or so and I basically did the thing you did. Waited for the night to begin my robbing adventure.
My ol best buddy used to LOVE these games, so good to hear you coverin' em. Hope you're well, Warlock!! 🖤🙏🌌
One of my favorite games, and favorite memories from when I was 15.
Your videos are the definition of comfy.
Another Warlockracy Upload is a great omen for the day
I love your videos, never stop making them :)
Critizising this game in Poland is death sentence
For better and for worse. It is still very broken released beta but it does better some areas than most RPGs.
The way to a man's heart is through his lungs 🤣 dude, I'm subbing to your patreon, that was gold. Also love all of your vids so far.
8:15 - that is why you shoud play with polish dubbing :)
Small mistake It should be 8:15 but apart from that excellent point
Many Poles consider Gothic as their adopted child, in our country Gothic is a great cult because it was one of the first games perfectly dubbed in our language.
We don't talk about the Remake here...
17:12 there is also a 3rd way to get into the keep via joining the new camp. for its size it is full of optional ways and arcs one might never see in one playtrough.
God I love those games, still playing them every year in some form.
If the Water Mages want to explode that huge MAGIC ore pile that only affects magic, then the Water Mages are not affected by the explosion as well?
They added the stamina bar to New Gothic because people weren't tortured enough by it in Elyx.
Another great video. I think ill check this one out after im finished with planescape and the stalker games
Maybe some materials about Gothic mods in the future? Like Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos, Cienie przeszłości or Странник в тылу врага would be nice to see your perspective. Cheers!
Great shoutout to Colony Ship! Can't wait for release, had a TON of fun playing AoD
amazing as always warlock!
re: 'why are good video game writers so rare' - i've come to think that it is because many writers in the industry get into gamespace through some informal career track, often via other gamedev specializations. many represent some facet of what could be termed nerd culture, although that term itself is kind of vague nowadays. they bring a shared set of references and expectations into what they do. unfortunately it is rare for writers outside of gamespace to see it as a serious literary medium, and independent developers with those kind of ambitions often lack the budgets necessary, or have to go up against publishers repeating "gamers don't want to read" like a mantra, etc. you can sort of see what happens when writers outside of gamedev get together and make a game with disco elysium. several people on that team taught critical reading/lit prior to making games.
writing videogames requires both, the ability to write a good story, but also to write in a way that works with the mechanics of a game. And it's rare for someone to be good at both.
Wow you mentioned Gothic in a video recently so I was really hoping you would review it! Cheers!
26:30 fun fact: the old mine actually isn't collapsed in the game. The developers didn't bother to change the cave's entrance, or the map beyond it. It's still the same as it was before. I remember checking if something had changed when I played it the first time... nope, everything was exactly the same as it was before. I wouldn't be surprised if they simply forgot to change the world state. Either way, since everyone was technically dead and the game considered that part of the map a dead zone, I killed all the NPCs and I looted everything.
I love this channel so much
Talk about timing ive been binging your videos recently and then you drop a new video
Ahh so happy you reviewed it. Hopefully it will lead more people to play it!
Polish dubbing is objectively the best, even better than the original German. Distributor, CD Project did a great job with the translation and marketing when the game came out.
Another game from my childhood on your channel!
I'm a big fan of how your videos are more of a "journey" through the game and less of a structured analysis. Mentioning things like "there's few women, and most are possessions of the faction leaders" is just something you mention off-hand as you discover them in the course of the game, and instead of doing an extended commentary on it and voicing your opinion, you just leave it to the viewer to draw their own conclusion about what & how much these details mean to them, if anything. Kudos!
Ah, Gothic! What a gem! The game brings back so many good memories of a carefree childhood that was partly spent on the streets of Khorinis and on the farms and meadows nearby. It would be great to see a video review of the second part of Gothic, which is the best in the trilogy by the community's consensus.
Your vids encouraged me to play Arcanum and Fallout 2 for the first time and I have to say - I used to have friends.
For some reason I assumed you already had a Gothic video so this is nice. Please follow it up with a video on 2 and then the CoM mod.
im in Canada and i loved both this and gothic 2. i have the original discs from when i bought em. NO ONE i know has even heard of this series let alone played it and it's a shame.
Actually there are a lot of swords that are one handed weapons, two handed seems stronger but people who train with one handed weapons can generate a huge amount of power and exercise a lot of control
4:20 No, it's perfectly translated. The joke is just stupid.
It’s a good day when warlockracy uplods
damn i was just hoping for a new video and here it is
When I was in middle school, I invited some classmates over to my birthday, but for various reasons most of them could not make that day, all of them but one dude. He came and was surprised nobody had come. He did not have time to get a present beforehand and offered to buy me a video game of my choosing which happened to be a DVD of both Gothic 1 and 2 NOTR. Best birthday of my life!
Its a gem of a game.
3:31 I swear that jump kick animation makes me laugh even 20 years later lmfao
THE KING OF JANK IS BACK ON THE THRONE, BABYYY!
Absolute classic game, a culturally important masterpiece around my parts. Cheers, thx for the video.
P.S. - will you cover the 2nd and 3rd game, too? and maybe some mods to the 2nd game since they're basically whole new games themselves.
To be fair it was also pretty popular in Italy. The biggest PC game magazine of the day gave it a glowing review and even distributed some mods
15:25 "I just wanna see you mashing." - Me whenever I play a fighting game
The Gothic troll is very gothicc.
I liked the small anarcho-primitivst meme when u talked about industry and tech
I sincerely hope warlock does a video for Gothic II
That dance the goblins do is somehow the most endearing thing to me. What a bunch of good lads.
3° Video of asking for Daggerfall Unity in the near future, no pressure. Hope everyone is having a good day.
Now, this will perfect to watch during suffering through raging hangover. Just like playing the game itself
To me, the Radiant AI doesn't hold a candle to Gothic's. It's just so much more believable.