@@hida_berserker - there is no 'the' 5/5, there are quite a few good options; 4th column alone has Kill Clip or Headseeker for PvP, Frenzy or Headstone for PvE, Golden Tricorn or Headstone for both.
@@hida_berserker - aye, I gathered that I'm very much nitpicking; there is very rarely a singular best thing in most games it depends on the actual content, and can also be subjective such as how much stability some like.
The real fun roll with Psi Hermetic is getting Headstone because the Wild Card bolts it drops can destroy the crystal for a Stasis-Dragonfly style effect with shatter damage.
And with this seasons artifact, will slow nearby enemies. Ive gotten plenty of instances where a target is slowed & cant do anything to escape the 2 burst.
Autumn Wind with perpetual/ headseeker. One of my go-tos for rapid fire frames. Lodbrok-C the broke man's Defiant Abyss lol, Target Lock, dynamic sway or perpetual to circumvent the crappy reload, stability and handling. Symmetry: with the incoming buff of eddy current built in and the slight buff to stability and handling. Love running it with a Boudica-C side arm: moving target/ Swash which can 3 tap with 5 stacks. Craftable Perpetualis: keep away target lock.
Phyllotactic Sprial is being slept on, you can craft Under Over and Head Seeker together making it possible to two burst even with overshields or healing rift.
All of these are def underused *but* I feel compelled to point out that because they are world drops they are very difficult to get a good roll on. Yes, some are available in the lost sectors but it's still an unforgiving grind because of the perk availability (too many options)
I've been made fun of by my clan for years for loving it. I have soooo many kills on that thing. Surplus absolutely transforms it into feeling incredible.
DFP put out a video on Outlast the other day and that thing SLAYS. Easy to focus a decent roll at the sonar station. I settled on feeding frenzy / kill clip. So I decided to try my Jurassic Green I kept for no good reason and it performed pretty much the same. Dust off those old 0-kill pulses you kept! They’re sneaky good!
YES OLD STERLING!!! Have been using Smallbore-Accurized---Slideways-Harmony---Range Masterwork so 70 range on this thing. Grabbed this roll from Banshee a LONG time ago. Sterlings base recoil pattern feels INCREDIBLE compared to Perpetualis' base recoil pattern. LOVE that you brought attention to my baby!
Cold denial is a high impact frame pulse rifle that can roll head seeker and it has 14 zoom which is what most hand cannons have. it’s obtainable, but not readily available.
My Ogma PR6 never fails me... tried Graviton Lance in a few matches yesterday and it was actually fun... I never used it in PvP before, but I might play with it some more!
Old sterling can roll with perfect float and frenzy, which have the same proc as the origin trait. So just from participating you have 3 perks bumping up your stats and damage. Also, Ogma is the solar version of stay frosty and is super slept on. Perks suck so heating / dragonfly will have to do but i have 1500 kills on mine and it pairs great with travelers chosen.
My favorites are: Nightshade w/ headseeker. Nameless midnight w/ zen moment & Vorpal. Brya's Love with keep away & precision instrument. There are a few others. I used to have a very nice Black Scorpion that had over 2k PvP kills with but it got sunsetted.
@evanflynn4680 you can check the focusing daily, the gunsmith engrams and some glimmer and you can focus it. Mine is Polygonal, HighCal, Pugilist, and Swash. Love it.
@GluttonyIsMySin I'm looking for one with range finder so I can use it a little further from shotgun range. Love them with high cal, ricochet or armour piercing.
@evanflynn4680 ah... it doesn't roll with range finder... but extended barrel and ricochet rounds can throw you to almost 80.. and then maybe moving target with swashbuckler? I like swashbuckler because of the damage stacks... and of you melee with it out in a heated moment you get the stacks. It hits hard too for it's frame type.. the other two sidearms, Veist Redback and Suros Fioritura aren't kinetic primaries but they roll killing wind... I'd still go with the Boudica though.. personally.
Ros Arago - basically a void Summoner. Can roll with the goated Dynamic Sway + Onslaught/Golden Tricorn combo. It's a world drop. Relentless - 340 Pulse from Prophecy. Keep Away/Snapshot + Headseeker, or Rapid hit + Zen Moment for extreme anti-flinch capabilities. Ultra clean sights. Prophecy will be farmable this next week, and it drops from the first boss. Combined Action, 120 HC. Zen Moment + Adagio, you can 2-tap. World drop. Empirical Evidence , Witchqueen DLC is free for everybody right now , so get one and craft it with Encore + Adagio. And also as many people mentioned it, Senuna. She's a beast, small but feisty.
Been using a Lonesome sidearm with hammer-forged barrel, riccochet rounds, Zen moment, kill clip, and range masterwork. With the right roll, this beast is insane.
Noticed the absence of both a smg and a sidearm on this list. Def look into forensoc nightmare and empirical evidence. Both craftable with weapons obtainable on the throne world. Both have been sneaky good for a long long time. Encore on both and kill clip on FN and adagio on EE.
2:31 STAY WITH YOU TEAM AND CAPTURE THE POINT TV!!! MUH CLIP!! 3:34 HOW DARE YOU! 3:57 THATS WHAT YOU GET! 5:55 HOW DARE YOU! I KNEW YOU HAD KILL CLIP! 7:27 IM BEING BULLIED! ggs good video. I love stay frosty went on some crazy kill streaks with it when I was using stasis lock. very fun kill chaining pulse. I do not like Psy. every single one I get has some wonky recoil pattern, but maybe 75 is the sweet spot. Grav lance is one of my favorites. Creating mini black holes inside people that blow them up and cause others to explode is S tier Exotic making. Nox is neat. but it goes where conditional goes. prob why we dont see it more. Also non focusable world drop. Havent got a good enough old sterling to try because again its a world drop. the combo you have seems fun though.
Old sterling is garbage, was killed by it once from the side. Once. I remember because I said, wow, Old Sterling. Checked out his roll, something something adagio
PSI is so slept on i have an encore and headstone roll that’s amazing and just is so perfect for stasis builds in pvp bro trust me you dont need headseeker or rapid hit
Disparity. Craftable aggressive burst pulse from season of the seraph. Right up front I'll say that yes, it does not have as good base stats as Blast Furnace, especially in the range dept, although it does have slightly higher base handling. There are two main things it's got going for it though. Firstly it can be crafted with the highly sought after trait combo of rapid hit & headseeker, enhanced of course, and naturally you can have your choice of barrel & mag perks. Secondly it has the underrated origin trait "ambush" which provides a +20 to both range & handling as long as you have not dealt or received damage for at least 5 seconds. In short, if that god roll Blast Furnace is eluding you, look no further than Disparity to fill that slot in your arsenal. Oh & it's stasis too so all the stuff TV said about Psi Hermetic also applies to Disparity. EDIT Forgot to mention that the ambush origin trait deactivates two seconds after either dealing or receiving damage, which is obviously more than enough for most crucible duels.
Old Sterling is _really_ nice. The one I masterworked has arrowhead brake, rewind rounds and a recoil of 93. Damn thing is like a laser beam, it doesn't even move.
This might be slightly off topic but, I have a sunset Bungie roll on the Ringing Nail..I unleashed it in 6's and fragged out. If you have one give it a try.
Has anyone said Stars in Shadow yet? Yes? No? Doesn't matter imma say it again or for the first time, surplus, headseeker. Doesn't matter anything else, well not to me, but this is an oldie but goldie in my book!
Boudica-c sidearm mine has hammer forge ricochet round moving target and mkc it's a 260 precision frame Coronach-22 600rpm solar auto Mine has zen moment target lock arrowhead and armor piercing rounds this thing shoots ropes
I have 2 psi hermetic v rolls that i got by pure luck...one has ext barrel, flared mag, encore, headstone w/ handling mw which i use fir my warlock pvp stasis build with osio gloves The 2nd roll i have for general use has ham forge rif, tac mag, encore, kc, W/range m
The persuader and locus locutus snipers, discord and opening shot is too fun to pass on in 6s, not as good in comp due to ammo economy being better but very fun guns no one talked about at all
I think chattering bone is being slept on. Started using it since the buff to lightweights and headseeker + kill clip feels amazing with kill clip 2 tapping now. It also just feels really easy to aim once I got used to aiming with it's weird reticle.
Agreed across the board. I’d add Glissando- my perfect float, cascade point roll puts in serious work, in pvp and pve, though it’s not even the best roll on paper. It makes me scratch my head how hard it slays compared to others of same archetype. Perhaps it really is a god roll and im just reading the perk descriptions wrong. Oh and rat king crew for life. My sweetie is only getting sweeter too 😃
I would add the Nightshade pulse rifle from Season of the Witch. The roll I have on mine is Arrowhead Break, Accurized Rounds, Outlaw, Kill Clip and a Range Masterwork. I'll be honest, I haven't used it much, but I got a little over 300 kills with this weapon and especially with the Nadir Focus Origin Trait on. Why not give the Nightshade pulse a try since it's also a Lightweight Frame Pulse. You can focus it from the Recovered Red War Weapons at the Ritual Table.
Bro. Stay frosty cooks, also nightshade a strand light frame is just as good. Can run with arrowhead, ricochet, under pressure and kill clip or headseeker.
Ima be honest i only recently realized within the last like 6? 7 months? that graviton wasn’t a scout with high recoil,and ive been playing since destiny 2 began and also played non stop destiny 1 alpha to end of game
I tried a darkest before I had on my vault with hammer forge, flared magwell, heal clip and headseeker and it just felt incredible after the buffs they gave to rapid frames I was performing way better with it than my outlast with keepaway + kill clip but it might be because I had full bore on it to put range at 60 so the stability cut may be hurting it a lot. Third axiom is also a monster now, got ricochet, sildeshot/zen moment and headseeker on mine and it snipes from so far away with slideshot
Psi Hermetic to me has been an awful weapon to use. I wanted it to work well so I didn't have to always run the messenger, but it was just so inconsistent. Missing bursts at the same range where I'd just two bursted someone else (had KC on it for 2nd engagement so should have been a guarantee). Insta delete for me now and not gonna keep a roll in the vault.
I have a psi hermetic roll with moving target/encore and headseaker but for some reason I have a harder time controlling it over the messenger. I also have that slide ways adagio old sterling and that things a beast but the adept summoner with a stability mod still feels like an absolute laser to me.
Perpetualis with Enhanced Golden Tricorn and Enhanced Keep Away, Scalar Potential with Enhanced Keep away and Enhanced Headseeker. never stopped using Graviton lance.
So 3 world drops that most getting lucky to drop or cant reliably farm LS for (which kinda sucks to do regardless because RNG sucks), 1 event gun and 1 exotic. Last one being the reasonably easy to get. Regarding the rest its pretty easy to know why they arent used
Just deleted a nox with kickstart and fragile focus today…. Not sure if I’m still that bothered… feel like that archetype is brilliant in 1 v 1 but you’re stuck with such a long charge up for the second shot. I’ll stick with my adaptive.
I don’t think these weapons are slept on I think they are just incredibly hard to farm because they have very inconsistent acquisition methods. The legendary weapons you are 3 world drops and an event weapon that’s available 3 weeks per year.
They are from obnoxious sources with RNG. I for instance play a lot and never seen any decent PvP drops of these outside Stay Frosty which is from limited time event.
Yeah people know about Graviton, but we all have a gentleman's agreement to not use it because it causes the Jade Rabbit effect where everyone has to put it on because some tart will think they're so smort sitting in the back of the map with it until they piss off the other players in the lobby.
Love your videos bud but you're obviously struggling to find things to make content about. I keep and try every roll and have over 6000 hrs in the game so my vault is full of off meta guns and slept on guns because it's fun to be different but I've literally got "god rolls" of these guns and they're no where near as good as you're making out. I think you're slightly blinded by the fact that you're really good in PVP. For the average and even above average players there are far better guns that feel a whole ton better.
Ngl fam. They’re “slept on” because they don’t do that… maybe mention what scripts you’re running to make them do that 😂 or before making a weapon testing video turn them off so you don’t look like a dummy 😂 especially with the first pulse in case you didn’t know it’s recoil pattern intrinsically is a hard yank to the left. I’ve been testing it forever. I’ve had every single role it can drop. None of them. Do what yours do either you got on scripts really really hard. especially with the first pulse in case you didn’t know it’s recoil pattern intrinsically is a hard yank to the left. I’ve been testing it forever. I’ve had every single role it can drop. None of them. Do what yours do either you got on script really really hard. Or you are way underestimating how broken your joystick is on that PlayStation controller 😂
He is on console, with a controller. We all know console lobbies are significantly easier and have more "bots" who just walk right into lanes begging to get 2 bursted by 340s..
@@aaronsmith4273 unfortunately it does not exempt people from having scripts. I made them for my PS3 back in the day. Although PlayStation is a lot harder to make scripts for it’s not impossible, and there are plenty of people out there selling and making these things. You’re not wrong. But the point is whether you’re on Xbox or PlayStation or even Nintendo switch for one dude with the hacked ROM. It’s not impossible to get scripts. If you think it is, I hate to break it to you. You don’t really know what you’re talking about. Lol that’s not a stab at you just anybody that consoles don’t have this problem. Xbox is actually even easier easier to make scripts for because PC ports. And also in the event that you didn’t know, you can plug a PlayStation controller into a PC and have it come up as buttons for everything. Some controllers noncompatible others require aftermarket “extras” to go undetected. And actually for controllers, a lot of scripts are actually loaded into the controller itself into the motherboard. I actually have a friend who did that for his. Mine where loaded onto the hard drive of the console itself. But again it’s not impossible.
Gnawing hunger is still a nasty 600 with zen kill clip and you don’t have to play trials for it. Just chill and play some gambit. Win or lose you still get engrams you can focus for gnawing hunger
People are sleeping on the Psi Hermetic because you have more chance of winning the lottery than getting a decent roll on one.
i havent wont the lottery yet, but I have the 5/5 godroll. Unlucky me.
@@hida_berserker - there is no 'the' 5/5, there are quite a few good options; 4th column alone has Kill Clip or Headseeker for PvP, Frenzy or Headstone for PvE, Golden Tricorn or Headstone for both.
@@MGShadow1989 agreed, i guess I meant "my 5/5" godroll hehe
@@hida_berserker - aye, I gathered that I'm very much nitpicking; there is very rarely a singular best thing in most games it depends on the actual content, and can also be subjective such as how much stability some like.
@@MGShadow1989out of all of those the only one you’d want for PvP is headseeker lmfao
The real fun roll with Psi Hermetic is getting Headstone because the Wild Card bolts it drops can destroy the crystal for a Stasis-Dragonfly style effect with shatter damage.
And with this seasons artifact, will slow nearby enemies. Ive gotten plenty of instances where a target is slowed & cant do anything to escape the 2 burst.
Good shout
Positive Outlook, the Vanguard void AR. Zen and Kill Clip. Chef kiss.
Yes! I have the same roll.
Absolutely I have the same roll it cooks
I've gotten so man damn elemental capacitor rolls. My luck has been so bad with this gun due to its 20 perks in both columns lol
It’s because 450’s are broken. Nerf incoming.
@@ryandavis8658They’ve already been nerfed
I can't hear Old Sterling and not immediately go "SCOTT STERLING!!!!"
Now I can't.
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Autumn Wind with perpetual/ headseeker. One of my go-tos for rapid fire frames.
Lodbrok-C the broke man's Defiant Abyss lol, Target Lock, dynamic sway or perpetual to circumvent the crappy reload, stability and handling.
Symmetry: with the incoming buff of eddy current built in and the slight buff to stability and handling. Love running it with a Boudica-C side arm: moving target/ Swash which can 3 tap with 5 stacks.
Craftable Perpetualis: keep away target lock.
Your 'Eff it we brawl' build got me my first ever 'we ran' medal on the new maps! Thank you!
Phyllotactic Sprial is being slept on, you can craft Under Over and Head Seeker together making it possible to two burst even with overshields or healing rift.
Phyllotactic Spiral is the real pulse rifle that's being slept on.
That being said, my only problem is getting the last red border to drop 😭
All of these are def underused *but* I feel compelled to point out that because they are world drops they are very difficult to get a good roll on. Yes, some are available in the lost sectors but it's still an unforgiving grind because of the perk availability (too many options)
Almost the same reply i just gave. Pretty easy to know why they arent used
Stars in shadows is also an excellent pulse that most people ignore.
Workhorse.
I kept several of these with QuickDraw, kill clip, disruption break, and frenzy. Solid gun!
Abysmal stats
@@kenrocker7427 I have Outlaw and headseeker on the one i kept. Works quite nice
I've been made fun of by my clan for years for loving it. I have soooo many kills on that thing. Surplus absolutely transforms it into feeling incredible.
The BXR 55 battler is absolutely nasty you have to try it out in pvp
Definitely! It's one of my favorite weapons and is always fun to use!
What’s the pvp build for it?
DFP put out a video on Outlast the other day and that thing SLAYS. Easy to focus a decent roll at the sonar station. I settled on feeding frenzy / kill clip. So I decided to try my Jurassic Green I kept for no good reason and it performed pretty much the same. Dust off those old 0-kill pulses you kept! They’re sneaky good!
Senuna SI6 is absolutely absurd and criminally underrated
Yeah it's awesome. 100 stability + headseeker.
imo
Syncopation-53 with Zen/Headseeker is a cheat code of a gun, so slept on and so, so good. Best PVP pulse in the game arguably.
Can it 2 burst?
YES OLD STERLING!!! Have been using Smallbore-Accurized---Slideways-Harmony---Range Masterwork so 70 range on this thing. Grabbed this roll from Banshee a LONG time ago. Sterlings base recoil pattern feels INCREDIBLE compared to Perpetualis' base recoil pattern. LOVE that you brought attention to my baby!
i like it with perfect float + adagio
@@max73916 oh damn...would love to have that roll!!!
Love these videos. Would love a “what should I focus all these dang vendor tokens on?” vid 😊
Graviton Lance probably isn't slept on. It's the 2nd most used pulse in the crucible behind blast furnace.
Cold denial is a high impact frame pulse rifle that can roll head seeker and it has 14 zoom which is what most hand cannons have. it’s obtainable, but not readily available.
My Ogma PR6 never fails me... tried Graviton Lance in a few matches yesterday and it was actually fun... I never used it in PvP before, but I might play with it some more!
Graviton is nasty in pvp. It's hilarious when there are several people around too, chaos!
Old sterling can roll with perfect float and frenzy, which have the same proc as the origin trait. So just from participating you have 3 perks bumping up your stats and damage.
Also, Ogma is the solar version of stay frosty and is super slept on. Perks suck so heating / dragonfly will have to do but i have 1500 kills on mine and it pairs great with travelers chosen.
My favorites are: Nightshade w/ headseeker. Nameless midnight w/ zen moment & Vorpal. Brya's Love with keep away & precision instrument. There are a few others. I used to have a very nice Black Scorpion that had over 2k PvP kills with but it got sunsetted.
Got a keep away/headseeker nightshade I break out once a week or so that just feels wonderful
Mine is Enlightened Action/Headseeker. I can barely use anything else.
Boudica-C is the most slept on weapon in PVP. Love it!
Ah yes, the space s&w shield.
I look for it when Banshee-44 sells it with the Hakke guns.
@evanflynn4680 you can check the focusing daily, the gunsmith engrams and some glimmer and you can focus it. Mine is Polygonal, HighCal, Pugilist, and Swash. Love it.
@GluttonyIsMySin I'm looking for one with range finder so I can use it a little further from shotgun range. Love them with high cal, ricochet or armour piercing.
@evanflynn4680 ah... it doesn't roll with range finder... but extended barrel and ricochet rounds can throw you to almost 80.. and then maybe moving target with swashbuckler? I like swashbuckler because of the damage stacks... and of you melee with it out in a heated moment you get the stacks. It hits hard too for it's frame type.. the other two sidearms, Veist Redback and Suros Fioritura aren't kinetic primaries but they roll killing wind... I'd still go with the Boudica though.. personally.
Ros Arago - basically a void Summoner. Can roll with the goated Dynamic Sway + Onslaught/Golden Tricorn combo. It's a world drop.
Relentless - 340 Pulse from Prophecy. Keep Away/Snapshot + Headseeker, or Rapid hit + Zen Moment for extreme anti-flinch capabilities. Ultra clean sights. Prophecy will be farmable this next week, and it drops from the first boss.
Combined Action, 120 HC. Zen Moment + Adagio, you can 2-tap. World drop.
Empirical Evidence , Witchqueen DLC is free for everybody right now , so get one and craft it with Encore + Adagio.
And also as many people mentioned it, Senuna. She's a beast, small but feisty.
Been using a Lonesome sidearm with hammer-forged barrel, riccochet rounds, Zen moment, kill clip, and range masterwork. With the right roll, this beast is insane.
Noticed the absence of both a smg and a sidearm on this list. Def look into forensoc nightmare and empirical evidence. Both craftable with weapons obtainable on the throne world. Both have been sneaky good for a long long time. Encore on both and kill clip on FN and adagio on EE.
Finally, my vault coming back around like bell bottoms.
2:31 STAY WITH YOU TEAM AND CAPTURE THE POINT TV!!! MUH CLIP!!
3:34 HOW DARE YOU!
3:57 THATS WHAT YOU GET!
5:55 HOW DARE YOU! I KNEW YOU HAD KILL CLIP!
7:27 IM BEING BULLIED!
ggs good video.
I love stay frosty went on some crazy kill streaks with it when I was using stasis lock. very fun kill chaining pulse.
I do not like Psy. every single one I get has some wonky recoil pattern, but maybe 75 is the sweet spot.
Grav lance is one of my favorites. Creating mini black holes inside people that blow them up and cause others to explode is S tier Exotic making.
Nox is neat. but it goes where conditional goes. prob why we dont see it more. Also non focusable world drop.
Havent got a good enough old sterling to try because again its a world drop. the combo you have seems fun though.
i included that just for you haha
@TrueVanguard yea I bet you did! Lol
I came down just for these comments from @jingelhymer once I saw his ignition team wipe early in the video.
Finally, someone noticed the Old Sterling is a strand Summoner.
Old sterling is garbage, was killed by it once from the side. Once. I remember because I said, wow, Old Sterling. Checked out his roll, something something adagio
PSI is so slept on i have an encore and headstone roll that’s amazing and just is so perfect for stasis builds in pvp bro trust me you dont need headseeker or rapid hit
Duty Bound with zen moment dynamic sway feels really good, and it has the bayonet cool factor.
And also horrendous zoom & stats
Disparity. Craftable aggressive burst pulse from season of the seraph. Right up front I'll say that yes, it does not have as good base stats as Blast Furnace, especially in the range dept, although it does have slightly higher base handling. There are two main things it's got going for it though. Firstly it can be crafted with the highly sought after trait combo of rapid hit & headseeker, enhanced of course, and naturally you can have your choice of barrel & mag perks. Secondly it has the underrated origin trait "ambush" which provides a +20 to both range & handling as long as you have not dealt or received damage for at least 5 seconds. In short, if that god roll Blast Furnace is eluding you, look no further than Disparity to fill that slot in your arsenal. Oh & it's stasis too so all the stuff TV said about Psi Hermetic also applies to Disparity.
EDIT
Forgot to mention that the ambush origin trait deactivates two seconds after either dealing or receiving damage, which is obviously more than enough for most crucible duels.
Old Sterling is _really_ nice. The one I masterworked has arrowhead brake, rewind rounds and a recoil of 93. Damn thing is like a laser beam, it doesn't even move.
Piece of mind is always my go to pulse
I love my vigilance wing! It is really fun to use and Is still a solid choice.
It still does the job well.
This might be slightly off topic but, I have a sunset Bungie roll on the Ringing Nail..I unleashed it in 6's and fragged out. If you have one give it a try.
I kept mine so i may give it a try. Also kept eight other Black Armory weapons so I may dust them off, too.
I haven’t been able to put down scalar potential all season, and it made me put down my zen moment kill clip adept horrors least
Has anyone said Stars in Shadow yet? Yes? No? Doesn't matter imma say it again or for the first time, surplus, headseeker. Doesn't matter anything else, well not to me, but this is an oldie but goldie in my book!
I’m seriously surprised you didn’t list the Stasis burst sidearm Senuna. This thing with Headseeker is an absolute killing machine!
Boudica-c sidearm mine has hammer forge ricochet round moving target and mkc it's a 260 precision frame
Coronach-22
600rpm solar auto
Mine has zen moment target lock arrowhead and armor piercing rounds this thing shoots ropes
Different Times is one. I hit 6k kills with it and it’s origin trait makes it a monster in Hardware Control
6k in Crucible? What roll are you using, I need just 1 red boarder to fully unlock it.
@@kennydolby1379 I have Arrowhead, Ricochet, Moving Target, Headseaker with a Range MW. I like it more than any other Rapid Fire Pulse.
Ogma is my favourite weapon right now. Around 2000 kills
I have 2 psi hermetic v rolls that i got by pure luck...one has ext barrel, flared mag, encore, headstone w/ handling mw which i use fir my warlock pvp stasis build with osio gloves
The 2nd roll i have for general use has ham forge rif, tac mag, encore, kc, W/range m
Moving target/kill clip on punching out is pretty fun. I prefer it over fioritura even though that can get killing wind
The persuader and locus locutus snipers, discord and opening shot is too fun to pass on in 6s, not as good in comp due to ammo economy being better but very fun guns no one talked about at all
I have god rolls of the 3 first guns you've recommended 😊
I think chattering bone is being slept on. Started using it since the buff to lightweights and headseeker + kill clip feels amazing with kill clip 2 tapping now. It also just feels really easy to aim once I got used to aiming with it's weird reticle.
Agreed across the board. I’d add Glissando- my perfect float, cascade point roll puts in serious work, in pvp and pve, though it’s not even the best roll on paper. It makes me scratch my head how hard it slays compared to others of same archetype. Perhaps it really is a god roll and im just reading the perk descriptions wrong.
Oh and rat king crew for life. My sweetie is only getting sweeter too 😃
Perfect float + frenzy old sterling with fighting lion is completely obnoxious for people to deal with using epic defenders build.
I would add the Nightshade pulse rifle from Season of the Witch. The roll I have on mine is Arrowhead Break, Accurized Rounds, Outlaw, Kill Clip and a Range Masterwork. I'll be honest, I haven't used it much, but I got a little over 300 kills with this weapon and especially with the Nadir Focus Origin Trait on. Why not give the Nightshade pulse a try since it's also a Lightweight Frame Pulse. You can focus it from the Recovered Red War Weapons at the Ritual Table.
Bro. Stay frosty cooks, also nightshade a strand light frame is just as good. Can run with arrowhead, ricochet, under pressure and kill clip or headseeker.
i'm basically unable to un-equip my old sterling- strand Warlock -hatchling & rewind rounds 'effing brutal!
What content drought? Destiny's Killin it lately!
Ima be honest i only recently realized within the last like 6? 7 months? that graviton wasn’t a scout with high recoil,and ive been playing since destiny 2 began and also played non stop destiny 1 alpha to end of game
I tried a darkest before I had on my vault with hammer forge, flared magwell, heal clip and headseeker and it just felt incredible after the buffs they gave to rapid frames I was performing way better with it than my outlast with keepaway + kill clip but it might be because I had full bore on it to put range at 60 so the stability cut may be hurting it a lot.
Third axiom is also a monster now, got ricochet, sildeshot/zen moment and headseeker on mine and it snipes from so far away with slideshot
I would add gridskipper, horror's least and relentless to the list.
Psi Hermetic to me has been an awful weapon to use. I wanted it to work well so I didn't have to always run the messenger, but it was just so inconsistent. Missing bursts at the same range where I'd just two bursted someone else (had KC on it for 2nd engagement so should have been a guarantee). Insta delete for me now and not gonna keep a roll in the vault.
I have a psi hermetic roll with moving target/encore and headseaker but for some reason I have a harder time controlling it over the messenger. I also have that slide ways adagio old sterling and that things a beast but the adept summoner with a stability mod still feels like an absolute laser to me.
The only weapon on this list that I agree with you TV is really good is graviton
Perpetualis with Enhanced Golden Tricorn and Enhanced Keep Away, Scalar Potential with Enhanced Keep away and Enhanced Headseeker. never stopped using Graviton lance.
How you can put one of the most used weapons in all of PvP on a slept on list is beyond me
People talk like they miss breachlight but nobody uses liminal vigil
Just matched up with you in Hardware Supremacy(SPUD-MUFIN). Been watching you for years now and was probably too excited to have you in my lobby
The reason not alot of people use psi is most ppl don't have it TV not because they sleep on it
Breakneck is my go-to autorifle
hard vouch for stay frosty I love that thing, chattering bone and (hear me out) nightshade are other great ones to try rn if you like the archetype
I just don't have anyone to play with to use my rolls on these. Solo pvp is a nightmare.
Just wait until this guy finds out about cerberus+1
We ain't sleeping on 'em we just don't have the god rolls
So 3 world drops that most getting lucky to drop or cant reliably farm LS for (which kinda sucks to do regardless because RNG sucks), 1 event gun and 1 exotic. Last one being the reasonably easy to get. Regarding the rest its pretty easy to know why they arent used
Nope I'm loving not seeing hand cannons on the top for nearly 10 years straight
Pizzicato with mulligan and multikill clip.
People are sleeping on the trespasser
My 5 most slept on Pvp guns before watching this video. Lodbrok. Cryostesia. Psi Hermetic. Last Word (somehow) and Lumina. *press play*
I get nothing but trash rolls on the Sterling. But I sure do love the Ross Arago if I’m going to load up with an auto.
Just deleted a nox with kickstart and fragile focus today…. Not sure if I’m still that bothered… feel like that archetype is brilliant in 1 v 1 but you’re stuck with such a long charge up for the second shot. I’ll stick with my adaptive.
Sometime I think Datto is Vanguard and vice versa. Are they the same guy? Do you even know?
Slept on weapons, aka random world drops that most people don't have + an event exclusive pulse rifle that most people don't have
i mean farm lost sectors lol they're guaranteed drops
Kept conf. Imop the best Pistol in the Game ❤
I got an arrow head high cal encore kill clip stay frosty that’s been gathering dust was actually going to delete it now I won’t.
y would i use a world drop when i have a god roll messenger adept?
i mean... i literally talk about that in the video. like compare it to messenger and give 2 good reasons you may want to use this instead.
Graviton is getting nerfed to hell in Final Shape
Cuz we have syncopation? which a very same?
Old sterling or perpetualis?
I've been looking for a good Psi Hermatic and a Nox for months :(
they're farmable in lost sectors
I don’t think these weapons are slept on I think they are just incredibly hard to farm because they have very inconsistent acquisition methods. The legendary weapons you are 3 world drops and an event weapon that’s available 3 weeks per year.
i mean they're all farmable on a set rotation in lost sectors, i've had zero trouble farming them and i suck at pve lol
Check you vault now
Thank you
They are from obnoxious sources with RNG. I for instance play a lot and never seen any decent PvP drops of these outside Stay Frosty which is from limited time event.
Sorrow's Verse
Poor Jinglehymer
ROS Arago lV
Yeah people know about Graviton, but we all have a gentleman's agreement to not use it because it causes the Jade Rabbit effect where everyone has to put it on because some tart will think they're so smort sitting in the back of the map with it until they piss off the other players in the lobby.
Horrors Least
Veles-x
These tubers always have questionable kill cam content, ain't no way anyone can know someone coming out that room
Radar bud. Learn to use it. It literally tells you when someone is right near you, above you, or below you
Hahaha imagine not knowing there’s a radar on the game
1st daddy
Love your videos bud but you're obviously struggling to find things to make content about. I keep and try every roll and have over 6000 hrs in the game so my vault is full of off meta guns and slept on guns because it's fun to be different but I've literally got "god rolls" of these guns and they're no where near as good as you're making out. I think you're slightly blinded by the fact that you're really good in PVP. For the average and even above average players there are far better guns that feel a whole ton better.
Ngl fam. They’re “slept on” because they don’t do that… maybe mention what scripts you’re running to make them do that 😂 or before making a weapon testing video turn them off so you don’t look like a dummy 😂 especially with the first pulse in case you didn’t know it’s recoil pattern intrinsically is a hard yank to the left. I’ve been testing it forever. I’ve had every single role it can drop. None of them. Do what yours do either you got on scripts really really hard. especially with the first pulse in case you didn’t know it’s recoil pattern intrinsically is a hard yank to the left. I’ve been testing it forever. I’ve had every single role it can drop. None of them. Do what yours do either you got on script really really hard. Or you are way underestimating how broken your joystick is on that PlayStation controller 😂
He is on console, with a controller. We all know console lobbies are significantly easier and have more "bots" who just walk right into lanes begging to get 2 bursted by 340s..
@@aaronsmith4273 unfortunately it does not exempt people from having scripts. I made them for my PS3 back in the day. Although PlayStation is a lot harder to make scripts for it’s not impossible, and there are plenty of people out there selling and making these things. You’re not wrong. But the point is whether you’re on Xbox or PlayStation or even Nintendo switch for one dude with the hacked ROM. It’s not impossible to get scripts. If you think it is, I hate to break it to you. You don’t really know what you’re talking about. Lol that’s not a stab at you just anybody that consoles don’t have this problem. Xbox is actually even easier easier to make scripts for because PC ports. And also in the event that you didn’t know, you can plug a PlayStation controller into a PC and have it come up as buttons for everything. Some controllers noncompatible others require aftermarket “extras” to go undetected. And actually for controllers, a lot of scripts are actually loaded into the controller itself into the motherboard. I actually have a friend who did that for his. Mine where loaded onto the hard drive of the console itself. But again it’s not impossible.
The best gun in the game for pvp is drang (baroque) change my mind
Gnawing hunger is still a nasty 600 with zen kill clip and you don’t have to play trials for it. Just chill and play some gambit. Win or lose you still get engrams you can focus for gnawing hunger
and wait for the time for xtra exp, because the engrams will just drop like crazy.
Is this console gameplay. Because the meta is way different on pc.
Console for sure.