Please don't mix up Brienz in Bernese Oberland (on lake Brienz hillside) and Brienz in canton of Grisons, eastern Swiss Alps region. Bernese Oberland gets frequently heavy thunderstorm leading to floods, the village of Brienz for example partially flooded in 2005, 2015 and again in 2024. That is where some construction has been made to block water floods, the ones shown in your report. Brienz/Brinzauls village in Grisons (canton with 3 official languages, the village bilingual german/romansh) and main road is exposed to rockslide. One stopped just next to the village in 1877. A year ago, inhabitants had to leave the village, main road closed when a new rockslide destroyed a few houses. The local rockslides are important, but relatively slow. Now inhabitants had to leave the village again - village will probably be abandoned sooner or later. Switzerland has plenty of dangerous places, often houses, villages destroyed by rockslides, landslides, floods, for example Arth-Goldau landslide in 1806 with 457 people killed, 111 houses destroyed and 4 churches/chappels. Now surveillance for such rockslides is efficient in all of the country. And major investments are still done to reduce water flood risks (for example reforesting mountain areas the last 150 years)
By the way the Brienz in "Graubünden" itselfe is sliding downhill since centuries. And and ontop the landslide @Casey piuctured here is part of the hilltop sliding faster than the village.
The whole Brienz/GR (the one in eastern Swiss Alps) hillside is gliding slowly probably since end of last glacial period, some 10'000 years ago. Slide speed is increasing - this is why the village most probably will be abandoned sooner or later. Updated access restriction plan is available at Albula-Alvra communal administration website on Brienz/Brinzauls Reminds me a small area in more western pre-Alps region. When some 60 years ago people started building vacation houses in the area, my grandfather, a mountain farmer warned: "this is not a place for constructions", without really knowing why. In late spring 1994 after some more important precipitations ground started moving, weeks later the 47 vacation homes, a restaurant and a larger hotel were literally swallowed by the moving ground. In fact the cantonal [state] insurance company had refused the construction plans for the hotel, the restaurant and the later constructions, area considered too dangerous - but regional politics allowed the constructions, including insurance. Other zones have been formally identified, a map issued, federal administration guide-lines adjusted too. If interested simply search for "Falli-Hölli"
The bad news is: 2024 floods in Brienz BE, were predicted to only have enough debris, that the catcher should have caught it all. Meaning, geologist are currently revising their models and that may well lead to significant results, not just for Brienz BE, but for many places, which so far have been believed to be safe. Good news is, despite being overwhelmed in minutes, it brought enough time for residents to evacuate and no one died. The big one by Brienz is actually the "Lammbach". It's valley already with unrevised models, could produce debris flows magnitudes bigger.
It’s pretty much what every country with pedestrian-focused towns and good mass transit does. Sadly, we here in the US ended up with the auto industry instead, and our country had never quite recovered.
When I drove through Switzerland, the impression that I got was that everything looked like a model. It was so clean that all the houses looked freshly painted and even the roads didn't have any dirt or oil stains on them.
@@michaelimbesi2314 idk man I find it pretty unlikely that small towns in nature exist because of public transit. You'd think that would lead to people living in big dense cities instead
In 1973 I took a geology class "Environmental Geology" at my local SoCal Orange County community college (Saddleback). Along with explaining things like flood basins and flood event statistics, the professor went over mass wasting processes (landslides etc). He didn't have to go far to show us examples of all these things.
Careful you are mixing Brienz/ Brinzauls in the Canton Gräubunden, with the better known Brienz in Canton Bern. Brienz is alongside the Brienzersee (Lake Brienz), while Brienz/Brizauls is on a hillside above the Albula River. Both are affected by rockslides, but Brienz/Brinzauls is under more immediate threat. The reason for the double name is that Brinzauls is the name of the village in the local Romansch language derived from Latin, while Brienz is the name of the village in German.
I don't remember the name but there was a t.v. show that had to do with the geology of the Alps. They highlighted the fact that the Geology of the range is made up of very crumbly rock and the Alps were very susceptible to landslides or Rockfalls.
I can't imagine living in the shadow of a landslide moving meters a day. It has the potential to break loose at any moment and crush you to death. Not how I'd like to go, thank you very much! Thank you for your report, and please keep an eye on this one. I'm curious how this is going to play out.
People in Switzerland have insurance... And in that case, it'is highly monitored with live data, and every time there is a risk, the town is evacuated.
I live in west central Ohio near Dayton. We have a town named Moraine. That's a good description of the underlying geology of our region, a result of glaciers retreating around the Great Lakes.
The bright side is that the rock slide is gluten free. However we are unsure if the rocks were processed without nuts, so be careful someone might be allergic to them when they hit.
I ordered Michael Collins' book that you mentioned. Being an avid space and aviation enthusiast and pilot, I have always enjoyed reading stories penned by our Astronauts.
Hi, Stefan Schneider here - not the one you mention, it’s just a common name here in Switzerland 😅. There‘s two problems in Brienz / Brinzauls: The village as a whole has been sliding for decades. And over the past few years these huge masses of stone from above have become the even bigger threat. How resilient - or stubborn?! - do you have to be to not go somewhere else? Thx for the video!
@@CaseyJones-Engineer I did - and I think I even mentioned Brienz / Brinzauls in my comment 😉 ... the question of "how much public money is enough" is never easy to answer. Certainly Brienz has a much longer history of several centuries ...
not for decades - for centuries… it is built on an old sliding area and the shown rockslide is part of the hilltop above the village, which is even sliding faster and coming down bit for bit. on the other side of the hilltop to the west / northwest another village is endangered by other parts of this sliding hilltop… and since a view years the evavuation the village with all citizens and livestock and returning. and on top to slow down the sliding speed (which increase triggered the evacuations) they try to bore a tunnel to evacuate and drain the water out of the mountain side to slow down the sliding action.
Only problem: it’s a pain to get the rock anywhere as you have a windy serpentine road that’s partially endangered by the „quarry“ on one side and too small to properly fit a bus, let alone a truck; the railway is a mile away and like half a mile down, the next station even further, and it’s narrow gauge and well used single track. Oh, and it’s not just the landslide, the whole village is sliding at a couple of inches a year, so good luck getting decent infrastructure on-site
@@silverXnoise well, that’s the point, the village is still inaccessible as all hell for swiss scales, so getting the stone from the quarry to anywhere you can do logistics at scale is/would be a pain
The Brinzauls slide is quite a remarkable piece of geology, there's a very interesting video lecture by Simon Löw covering the previous rockfall event that happened last year. It goes into a lot of detail on the mechanisms of the slope.
Avalanches and landslides are a fact of life in the Alps. It's normal to be heading to a certain place only to be confronted with a sign saying that the road ahead is closed due to a landslide. It's happened to me a few times that a trip of maybe an hour or two turned into a full day just to get around a closed road.
Of interest to you might be the 1903 landslide in the mining town of Frank in the province of Alberta, Canada. Over 70 deaths, a railroad destroyed, part of the town demolished, etc. There is a visitor center there now and you can walk around the site.
I've seen there are many other Swiss people adding information. So, no need for this anymore. Therefor i only want to leave a note that you nailed the name Brienz with the vocalised German "e". Always nice to see someone that doesn't speak the local languages not butcher names... ^^
Except for Civil Engineers, few of us have a quantitative feel for huge volumes of rock or earth. 1.5 million cubic yards is roughly 1 Empire State Building or 1/2 a Great Pyramid. Still not easy to grasp.
Great point of people having to be more aware of their surroundings and where they live! The Swiss know this, and it's a pain, but at least they knew that it could happen and would have to deal with it someday! Those retaining walls that were built, didn't look like they would stop those potential slides! Maybe slow them down a bit, but not stop what looked like could happen behind them!
The walls in second Brienz you mention (it’s confusing to everyone, don‘t worry) were built against the tiny little river running through it - because once every few decades he turns into a monster of water, mud, stones, debris, trees that destroys everything in it’s way!
The retaining basins above the second Brienz were built based on the amount of rocks caught in the previous decades plus a safety factor, and were considered sufficient until this year. The amout of rain hitting that area that day was unprecedented.
@@CaseyJones-EngineerI mean, IF you’re crazy enough to build under a cliff, you will have to deal with avalanches and rocks falling on your head and with about 60% mountains, 10% morena and 30% hills by are, there’s no dodging the knowledge that things will move, no matter what you do. So you eventually have to go, identify the risk areas and do something about it (list includes forests, galleries, tunnels, closures, refusing building permits, condemning areas, walls, nets, anchors, …). There’s enough casualties to avalanches you can’t see, that known rockslides shall not add to the tally
I watch Swiss train rides on TH-cam and I see lots of slide evidence. Sometimes the slides are young and the scarps are still well-delineated and maybe even active like this one. Others are old and have formed natural dams across valleys, resulting in lakes. Those lakes accumulate silt. Eventually the dam erodes and the lake shrinks or disappears, leaving behind a nice, flat area for farming. Where the dam used to be is sometimes a spot where the railroad has to go switchback or use a spiral tunnel to gain elevation.
I was going to recommend the Buzz Aldrin autobiography - but I don't remember the title and now realize there was more than one of them - I think it is either Return to Earth or Men from Earth (the older two) - but it was very interesting.
There are many canyons on the south edge of the San Gabriel Mountains that have debris-flow catchment systems to protect the populated areas of the Los Angeles suburbs there.
Great point thank you. I will look more into those and see if I can incorporate a discussion about them in a future video. I live in downtown L.A. for a while and later in Redlands when I worked on 7 Oaks Dam. I used to ride my motorcycle along the Angeles Crest Road. Fantastic road and scenery!
@@CaseyJones-Engineer John Mcphee chronicled the San Gabriel catchment system in a book called The Control of Nature. Along with that he talks about Icelanders battle ing lava flows and Corp of Engineers trying to tame the Mississippi. Highly recommend it.
Politicians and people in power are very fast to call on Climate Change. Weather happens, good or bad. Erosion also happens over long time scales, but can suddenly release slides of whole mountains. I live in Norway where we have it all, bad weather with lots of rain from time to time causing flooding. And mountains falling down every now and then creating havoc where it happens. This case in Suisse has nothing to do with climate change. I'm glad the professional stayed professional and denied the cause to be Climate Change, which it's not, good by him 🙂
Well, the professional was not quoted accurately in the video. If the question is "is the cause climate change", the only appropriate answer is "no it isn't". Why? Because the geology in the town is the cause. BUT, if the question is "does climate change contribute to the problem"? Then the answer is yes. How do I know that? I'm a civil engineer in Switzerland and now enough about this case to talk about it. The rain amount this year has been massive in Switzerland, and geologists who monitor the case mention it as a contributing factor of the acceleration of the landslide. And it turns out that the climate change brings more precipitations in Europe (especially in the North of the Alps and in the Alps. What else? The glaciers in the Alps are melting. No permafrost issue here like it is the case in other landslides in the Alps, but the glacier water is lubricating the sliding layer at 150 meters of depth. The acceleration of the melting brings more water. There is an observed correlation between the amount of water and the speed of this progressive landslide. Now, if you say that climate change is THE cause, it would be wrong, THE cause is this layer where there is a relative movement, and it is what it is. Doesn't mean that there is no contribution to climate change. Scientists in Switzerland are factual and measured in what they say. People quoting only the part that they like in what those scientists say are in bad faith. Here, the video is not accurate. And a video who would state that the climate change is THE cause would also be in bad faith.
One thing here locally that is a big concern is the Santa Fe dam and the Whitter Narrows Dam along the San Gabriel River. Apparently recent calculations by the Army Corp of Engineers say the system is not adequate for the "100 year" flood. Any clue as to what is going on with this potential disaster and really the whole flood control system in the Los Angeles basin ?
Thanks for that suggestion. I worked on the 7 Oaks Dam on the Santa Ana River during construction in the early 90's so it would be good to revisit what is going on there.
@@CaseyJones-Engineer That must be the one above Mentone. I lived in Yucaipa at that time. Went down Greenspot and things have changed since the night I was on my motorcycle, saw an owl on the road parked and sat down on the road for 20 minutes (no cars).
The Lac-Saint-Jean (Province of Quebec) area and the river Saguenay is prone to landslide. A famous one was at Saint-Jean-Vianney wich destroy 40 houses killing 31 persons. I visited the region and you clearly see why underneath the top soil the ground is highly compose of sand. Kind of dense network of streams, fold, cavity and gullies.
You didn’t notice that there was no enormous alpine lake in the published video footage before you selected the decent sized Brienz town right on the shore line of Lake Brienz near Interlaken in Google Earth/Maps? The slipping hillside small village is way to the east near Surava high in the mountains south of Chur over near the Austrian and Italian borders.
Are these sorts of landslides more commonly associated with 'young' mountain ranges rather than with older ranges like the Appalachians or Australia's Blue Mountains?
Sie mixen 2 Geschichten miteinander. Es gibt ein Briez in Osten von der Schweiz. im Kanton Graubünden. Da hat es kein See. Und dann gibt es ein Brienz im Kanton Bern. Am Brienzersee.
Just look at the site topography the town is built on. Its on a previous slide area. Its the flattest piece of ground around in the valley surounded by hills
Do the vibrations from one slide cause more slides? I suspect that the increased volcanic activity around the world could be causing small vibrations that encourage slides. Nice video but, a bit scary. Good Luck, Rick
@@CaseyJones-Engineer I agree but, remember using a small concrete vibrator when filling forms and how it can have primary affects but, a little ways down the form there could be secondary affects from the vibrations in the forms. The density of the bedrock can have funny energy transmissions. Good Luck, Rick
@@richardross7219 Interesting point. The short answer is that I don't know what the seismic effects are on the Alps. You have piqued my curiosity so I will look into it.
@@johnbeaulieu2404 There are active volcanos in Italy(the country to the south). Dense bedrock can transmitt vibrations for long distances. Volcanos can indicate slight shifts in continental plates. I live in CT. We have many earthguakes of magnitude 2 or less each year. We don't usually even feel them but, they could help an unstable slope to slide.
We want to live in these type of geological , climate active areas because they are full of beautiful scenes and nature. It’s to bad that not much foresight ( so it seems) is used when considering to build in these locals.
Blaming people living there since medieval times of not having enough foresight is in no way better than blaming humankind for weather extremes. And saying people live there because they looked for beautiful scenes and nature? Really?
Mountains are the result of impacted seabed sediment being uplifted by seismic events. I suspect that the upper layers would be poorly impacted and as a result, the surface of the mountains would consist of a large portion of loose matter. Add in the effects of ice and snow in breaking up material it is no wonder that there is a risk of rock slides. Is this a fair assumption from a non-geologist?
Imagine that, a mountain eroding. They don’t always erode in a steady state. Rock falls sometime mass waste the whole flank of a mountain. Isn’t anything new.
We have a road called the rest and be thankful, over 60 million has been spent trying to stabilise the side of the mountain with little success. It has become a very political issue as if no where else has landslides. (The A83)
In one respect at least you are right. Tectonic uplift in under loose aggregate cover material is, under continuing uplift going to want to go down hill. Permafrost is not a stay of execution on a high slope because ice is an amorphous solid and under heat cold cycles the is will flow. I mean that’s how glaciers work. Then this particular issue is a granted, the village is in danger no matter how you look at it. However the condition of rupture has to be considered also. The amount of moisture available for precipitation is higher when the oceans warm up and that’s a simple fact. In this particular circumstance that primarily saturated air may not ever reach the this particular location sufficient to cause a deluge. But there are subtle other effects. For one, the earths core remains at a static temperature and the crust heats up, then the crust expands more than the core, and this can cause buckling. The effects however could take thousands of years and in this situation the local stress will equilibrate with the occasional earthquake, so you are probably not going to see any independent ruptures due to bedrock heating. So having said that let’s discuss the geology. “The European Cenozoic Rift System (ECRIS) is a 1,100 km (680 mi) long system of rifts formed in the foreland of the Alps as the lithosphere responded to the effects of the Alpine and Pyrenean orogenies. “ “The Glarus thrust (German: Glarner Überschiebung) is a major thrust fault in the Alps of eastern Switzerland. Along the thrust the Helvetic nappes were thrust more than 100 km to the north over the external Aarmassif and Infrahelvetic complex.” The various faults that run east west bent to the SW by the Jura formation. The most distinct of these is the periadriatic seam. As we learn from studying fault lines that bends in faults with long straight feature tend to create diagonal faults that release stress and be quite severe, the Nojima slip strike fault, an excellent example, had not ruptured in the historic period and thus was unknown. The area is not immune to earthquakes however, the convergence of fault systems near the alps is causing uplift. And thus we have a conclusion. While climate change might alter the intensity of landslides when they occur, it’s probably not going to affect the occurrence rate because E = MGH. If uplift lifts a structure 10 meters over 100 years. And the structure weighs a billion kilograms, that’s 100 giga joules of energy that a landslide can dissipate.
Since long term weather trends influence the slide's behavior (as quoted in the report), I would be surprised if climate change had absolutely no effect on the landslide. If the weather turns drier, it could even slow its progression. I have no idea how strong its influence would be. It could be insignificant or it might be measurable, but I'd be surprised if it didn't affect the slide at all.
Rapidly melting glaciers in Pakistan are causing problems for many people and villages there. They have flooding from these glaciers that is causing huge landslides there. I saw something on the news about that the other day.
Just an old timer scientist's thought on climate change: you can't change the background temperature without changing biological, physical or weather systems.
that one obove the village is going on for centuries... in the last decade the village itself started to slide. it is due to climate change because the region was very dry and gets increasing amounts of water however it cant be due to human made climate change because trees have been found underneath the glaciers once they have molten. the picture you show are mostly not brinzauls Graubünden, but Brienz Bern because there is no lake closeby. in Brienz bern they dont deal with a sliding mountain but with debris flows. the system implemented at brinzauls is tunnels to dewater the ground beneath the village in order to reduce pessure on the geology. these small dams you show are not implemented in brinzauls because they are useless if installed on sliding ground. if you want an example of a dam constructed to stop a hillslide check the village of pontresina Graubünden. the dam there is massive. if you are interrested at current ongoing slides in graubünden feel free to contact me.
Climate Change may have an impact on how quick it's sliding, but it's definitely not the direct cause of the slide. And frankly, it's one of those situations where it would probably be impossible to say whether or not Climate Change has had an impact. 🤷🏻
I just not got the pun. Now I want hot chocolate. Speaking of Switzerland, I Would also like to find some (Gewehrpatrone 1890). I am sure somebody over there has some in the cupboard at Grandfather's house.
Yes there have been massive landslides before (human caused) climate change became a thing. Bonneville slide (AKA Bridge of the Gods) along the Columbia river. Currently dated around 1450 AD. All it takes is a steep enough slope and an underlying flaw in the structure. Another example is the Frank Slide 1903 (44 million cubic meters). I drove through there many years ago. Its quite a sight. The mountain that the slide is coming from in Brienz, looks really fractured like the Russel Ranch unit in the Southern Washington Cascades.
These slides are not unique. They do correlate to preexisting geology. Their frequency *does* correlate to extreme weather events. As the planet's atmosphere readjusts to new infrared radiation standards, extreme weather events become more common in many locations. Trying to credit *this* problem to a single source is problematic, but in general we can expect slides such as this to increase in frequency in the coming decades as our planetary atmosphere adjusts to the changes we make in the IR warming of the planet that are not evenly distributed geographically or temporally.
OK, Climate Change gets blamed for unrelated damage.....but it's no exaggeration to say that global warming REALLY DID just kick Florida right in the nards with unprecedented flooding in places like Orlando that had never seen such flooding before.......twice. Kicked Asheville North Carolina too, a town 240 years old that has seen high water, but never before has the river bed been scoured down to bedrock and completely changed its course. Like it is now.
Climate change is a phrase used by people who want to sound scientific, but do not know what they are talking about. Another way to say "climate change" is to say "the weather is always changing". You have sunny seasons and you have snowy seasons. Climate change sound more scientific. I treat the phrase "climate change" as "the weather is always changing". Remember, most news reports are reported by English majors. I enjoy listing to Casey Jones because he is an engineer. He knows what he is talking about.
There's a channel called Home made Documentaries he's done an amazing job with some of the best produced films about the American space programme. Well worth a watch if you get time. Enjoy your channel very much. Be well.
lol how did you manage to mention climate let alone climate change and negatively at that and not pull a wiki banner? As to the alps , geologically speaking the range is unique in being composed almost entirely of rock debris pushed up in to an overly steep loosely piled stack by Africa colliding with the European land mass in the prehistoric past. The aforementioned being the case the region is and always has been notorious for its instability and landslides. There is a drone video here on TH-cam from an entirely different part of the Alps that shows a bolder the size of a large building having slid down slope through an estate of some sort utterly destroying what looks to have been a barn and it is just one of several that are making their way down that slope in incremental slides.
True, not everything is caused by climate change. But you didn’t kind of skip over the gel just talking about other things that were being affected by climate change.
"instead, it is the long periods of extreme weather, such as very wet summers or very snowy winters, that seem to have an impact. But these are not directly attributable to climate change, he insisted." Seems like a legit conclusion to me.
I guess y'all don't understand what is meant by climate change? So climate change is causing more rain, but it isn't causing the rock slides, those are caused by long periods of rain, which isn't climate change... even though they are happening more often... which IS caused by climate change according to what he said. So is he trying to say that any particular rock slide might have happened anyway, and the fact that they are happening more often doesn't mean that this specific one is caused by the change that makes them happen more often? It is tortuous trying to avoid saying that a rock slide has happened at this time, and with this severity, because of something that is caused by climate change... and yet this isn't caused by climate change. Really dude?
@ do you have any idea how difficult it is to come up with a landslide joke that appeals to to a chat room full of people that find engineering content entertaining? You give it a shot…
Upton Sinclair "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." Global Warming It is difficult to get a multibillion dollar carbon credit market to understand geology & earthquakes are not climate change when the whole carbon credit market depends on not understanding it.
The science of an old Earth doesn’t seem to fit with all the landslides in the world. An Earth older than 6000 years might be less mountainous and have fewer steep hills that can slide. What do you think?
I am in the camp that the earth is billions of years old. The earth is dynamic. Plate tectonics results in creation and growth of new mountains faster in some areas than what erosion does to bring them down.
@ Ok, sir, and some of the people on the Earth who are Christians, and Muslims, there are a few of us, have documented statements that the Earth isn’t more than 6000 years old. It is definitely an interesting possibility.
Mountain ranges have been raised, worn down, and raised again several times in various regions of Earth's crust. Example: Some 40 million years ago a flat worn-down region near sea level was elevated about 3 miles to become the Rocky Mountains. Some 5 million years ago a new block uplift began to form the Grand Teton range within the Rockies. The Tetons are still going up, as demonstrated by a visible active fault scarp along the eastern face of those mountains. All mountains on Earth begin to be worn down as soon as uplift begins, and the debris is carried by gravity and the forces of water and ice to become sediments that fill the low spots surrounding the highlands. This evidence shows processes that are common everywhere the proper conditions exist, today or have existed in the past.
@@Oldschoolrules123 The most amusing thought about this is that an insignificant entity, God, left it open to faith. A not too famous author and film maker once said, “Believe it, or not.” It does seem to be apparent that an old Earth might be a correct assumption, but in spite of all the billions of data pointing to an old Earth, God, who has held himself to be without error, and always tells the truth, does not actually say it. Humans, who lie at the drop of a hat, say the Earth is older than 6000 years. We might find out when we see God. (Atheists: Or Not.)
Schneider is a geologist. WTF he knows about meteorology and climate ? About as much as you and me. Stick to your speciality Schneider and don't pi** on someone else parade.
Please don't mix up Brienz in Bernese Oberland (on lake Brienz hillside) and Brienz in canton of Grisons, eastern Swiss Alps region.
Bernese Oberland gets frequently heavy thunderstorm leading to floods, the village of Brienz for example partially flooded in 2005, 2015 and again in 2024. That is where some construction has been made to block water floods, the ones shown in your report.
Brienz/Brinzauls village in Grisons (canton with 3 official languages, the village bilingual german/romansh) and main road is exposed to rockslide. One stopped just next to the village in 1877. A year ago, inhabitants had to leave the village, main road closed when a new rockslide destroyed a few houses. The local rockslides are important, but relatively slow. Now inhabitants had to leave the village again - village will probably be abandoned sooner or later.
Switzerland has plenty of dangerous places, often houses, villages destroyed by rockslides, landslides, floods, for example Arth-Goldau landslide in 1806 with 457 people killed, 111 houses destroyed and 4 churches/chappels. Now surveillance for such rockslides is efficient in all of the country. And major investments are still done to reduce water flood risks (for example reforesting mountain areas the last 150 years)
By the way the Brienz in "Graubünden" itselfe is sliding downhill since centuries. And and ontop the landslide @Casey piuctured here is part of the hilltop sliding faster than the village.
The whole Brienz/GR (the one in eastern Swiss Alps) hillside is gliding slowly probably since end of last glacial period, some 10'000 years ago.
Slide speed is increasing - this is why the village most probably will be abandoned sooner or later.
Updated access restriction plan is available at Albula-Alvra communal administration website on Brienz/Brinzauls
Reminds me a small area in more western pre-Alps region.
When some 60 years ago people started building vacation houses in the area, my grandfather, a mountain farmer warned: "this is not a place for constructions", without really knowing why.
In late spring 1994 after some more important precipitations ground started moving, weeks later the 47 vacation homes, a restaurant and a larger hotel were literally swallowed by the moving ground.
In fact the cantonal [state] insurance company had refused the construction plans for the hotel, the restaurant and the later constructions, area considered too dangerous - but regional politics allowed the constructions, including insurance.
Other zones have been formally identified, a map issued, federal administration guide-lines adjusted too.
If interested simply search for "Falli-Hölli"
The bad news is: 2024 floods in Brienz BE, were predicted to only have enough debris, that the catcher should have caught it all. Meaning, geologist are currently revising their models and that may well lead to significant results, not just for Brienz BE, but for many places, which so far have been believed to be safe. Good news is, despite being overwhelmed in minutes, it brought enough time for residents to evacuate and no one died.
The big one by Brienz is actually the "Lammbach". It's valley already with unrevised models, could produce debris flows magnitudes bigger.
@@beyondEV Thank you for that information!
Casey (at 1:03): "Quite a picturesque town."
Switzerland: "Picturesque towns are what we do."
Yes, you do!
It’s pretty much what every country with pedestrian-focused towns and good mass transit does. Sadly, we here in the US ended up with the auto industry instead, and our country had never quite recovered.
When I drove through Switzerland, the impression that I got was that everything looked like a model. It was so clean that all the houses looked freshly painted and even the roads didn't have any dirt or oil stains on them.
@@michaelimbesi2314 idk man I find it pretty unlikely that small towns in nature exist because of public transit. You'd think that would lead to people living in big dense cities instead
In 1973 I took a geology class "Environmental Geology" at my local SoCal Orange County community college (Saddleback). Along with explaining things like flood basins and flood event statistics, the professor went over mass wasting processes (landslides etc). He didn't have to go far to show us examples of all these things.
Yes, there are many of these situations around the world.
As a Swiss /US Civil Engineer I have constructed a number of retainment structures similar to the video shows in the State of Obwalden in 1984
Careful you are mixing Brienz/ Brinzauls in the Canton Gräubunden, with the better known Brienz in Canton Bern. Brienz is alongside the Brienzersee (Lake Brienz), while Brienz/Brizauls is on a hillside above the Albula River. Both are affected by rockslides, but Brienz/Brinzauls is under more immediate threat. The reason for the double name is that Brinzauls is the name of the village in the local Romansch language derived from Latin, while Brienz is the name of the village in German.
Thank you for the clarification!
I don't remember the name but there was a t.v. show that had to do with the geology of the Alps. They highlighted the fact that the Geology of the range is made up of very crumbly rock and the Alps were very susceptible to landslides or Rockfalls.
I can't imagine living in the shadow of a landslide moving meters a day. It has the potential to break loose at any moment and crush you to death. Not how I'd like to go, thank you very much!
Thank you for your report, and please keep an eye on this one. I'm curious how this is going to play out.
Thank you. Yes, it is like the sword of Damocles for these people. I will continue to follow the story.
@@CaseyJones-Engineer they are evacuated
People in Switzerland have insurance...
And in that case, it'is highly monitored with live data, and every time there is a risk, the town is evacuated.
I live in west central Ohio near Dayton. We have a town named Moraine. That's a good description of the underlying geology of our region, a result of glaciers retreating around the Great Lakes.
The bright side is that the rock slide is gluten free. However we are unsure if the rocks were processed without nuts, so be careful someone might be allergic to them when they hit.
🤣And nobody has asked the rocks for their pronouns.
@@CaseyJones-Engineer Anti-bill of rights behavior
I ordered Michael Collins' book that you mentioned. Being an avid space and aviation enthusiast and pilot, I have always enjoyed reading stories penned by our Astronauts.
I think you will like that book.
Hi, Stefan Schneider here - not the one you mention, it’s just a common name here in Switzerland 😅. There‘s two problems in Brienz / Brinzauls: The village as a whole has been sliding for decades. And over the past few years these huge masses of stone from above have become the even bigger threat. How resilient - or stubborn?! - do you have to be to not go somewhere else? Thx for the video!
Thank you. I don't know if you say my videos about Rancho Palos Verdes but the same thing. Those people seem to never want to leave.
@@CaseyJones-Engineer I did - and I think I even mentioned Brienz / Brinzauls in my comment 😉 ... the question of "how much public money is enough" is never easy to answer. Certainly Brienz has a much longer history of several centuries ...
not for decades - for centuries… it is built on an old sliding area and the shown rockslide is part of the hilltop above the village, which is even sliding faster and coming down bit for bit. on the other side of the hilltop to the west / northwest another village is endangered by other parts of this sliding hilltop…
and since a view years the evavuation the village with all citizens and livestock and returning. and on top to slow down the sliding speed (which increase triggered the evacuations) they try to bore a tunnel to evacuate and drain the water out of the mountain side to slow down the sliding action.
They have a nice open quarry to get partially crushed stone from.
And it keeps giving more stone as time goes on.
Only problem: it’s a pain to get the rock anywhere as you have a windy serpentine road that’s partially endangered by the „quarry“ on one side and too small to properly fit a bus, let alone a truck; the railway is a mile away and like half a mile down, the next station even further, and it’s narrow gauge and well used single track.
Oh, and it’s not just the landslide, the whole village is sliding at a couple of inches a year, so good luck getting decent infrastructure on-site
@@genoobtlp4424Who needs accessible roads? The town brings the quarry to you!
@@silverXnoise well, that’s the point, the village is still inaccessible as all hell for swiss scales, so getting the stone from the quarry to anywhere you can do logistics at scale is/would be a pain
This area has been seeing swarms of small earthquakes, which will cause the flow to increase. I think of it as a large scale gold shaker table.
The Brinzauls slide is quite a remarkable piece of geology, there's a very interesting video lecture by Simon Löw covering the previous rockfall event that happened last year. It goes into a lot of detail on the mechanisms of the slope.
Thanks for covering this one!
Certainly!
Avalanches and landslides are a fact of life in the Alps. It's normal to be heading to a certain place only to be confronted with a sign saying that the road ahead is closed due to a landslide. It's happened to me a few times that a trip of maybe an hour or two turned into a full day just to get around a closed road.
Of interest to you might be the 1903 landslide in the mining town of Frank in the province of Alberta, Canada. Over 70 deaths, a railroad destroyed, part of the town demolished, etc. There is a visitor center there now and you can walk around the site.
Thank you again for reporting!
Any time!
I've seen there are many other Swiss people adding information. So, no need for this anymore. Therefor i only want to leave a note that you nailed the name Brienz with the vocalised German "e". Always nice to see someone that doesn't speak the local languages not butcher names... ^^
Thank you. Full disclosure: I took 3 years of German in high school but that was well over 40 years ago!
Great review. Thanks.
Thanks for checking it out.
Except for Civil Engineers, few of us have a quantitative feel for huge volumes of rock or earth.
1.5 million cubic yards is roughly 1 Empire State Building or 1/2 a Great Pyramid. Still not easy to grasp.
Thank you.
Bravo, Casey.
Great point of people having to be more aware of their surroundings and where they live! The Swiss know this, and it's a pain, but at least they knew that it could happen and would have to deal with it someday! Those retaining walls that were built, didn't look like they would stop those potential slides! Maybe slow them down a bit, but not stop what looked like could happen behind them!
Thank you. It's fascinating how the Swiss are so well aware of the geological risks they face.
The walls in second Brienz you mention (it’s confusing to everyone, don‘t worry) were built against the tiny little river running through it - because once every few decades he turns into a monster of water, mud, stones, debris, trees that destroys everything in it’s way!
The retaining basins above the second Brienz were built based on the amount of rocks caught in the previous decades plus a safety factor, and were considered sufficient until this year. The amout of rain hitting that area that day was unprecedented.
You can search for "illgraben" to see the best studies mudslide from Switzerland. Zufferey has lots of insane videos from that location.
@@CaseyJones-EngineerI mean, IF you’re crazy enough to build under a cliff, you will have to deal with avalanches and rocks falling on your head and with about 60% mountains, 10% morena and 30% hills by are, there’s no dodging the knowledge that things will move, no matter what you do.
So you eventually have to go, identify the risk areas and do something about it (list includes forests, galleries, tunnels, closures, refusing building permits, condemning areas, walls, nets, anchors, …). There’s enough casualties to avalanches you can’t see, that known rockslides shall not add to the tally
I watch Swiss train rides on TH-cam and I see lots of slide evidence. Sometimes the slides are young and the scarps are still well-delineated and maybe even active like this one. Others are old and have formed natural dams across valleys, resulting in lakes. Those lakes accumulate silt. Eventually the dam erodes and the lake shrinks or disappears, leaving behind a nice, flat area for farming. Where the dam used to be is sometimes a spot where the railroad has to go switchback or use a spiral tunnel to gain elevation.
I was going to recommend the Buzz Aldrin autobiography - but I don't remember the title and now realize there was more than one of them - I think it is either Return to Earth or Men from Earth (the older two) - but it was very interesting.
Thanks for the suggestion!
There are many canyons on the south edge of the San Gabriel Mountains that have debris-flow catchment systems to protect the populated areas of the Los Angeles suburbs there.
Great point thank you. I will look more into those and see if I can incorporate a discussion about them in a future video. I live in downtown L.A. for a while and later in Redlands when I worked on 7 Oaks Dam. I used to ride my motorcycle along the Angeles Crest Road. Fantastic road and scenery!
@@CaseyJones-Engineer John Mcphee chronicled the San Gabriel catchment system in a book called The Control of Nature. Along with that he talks about Icelanders battle ing lava flows and Corp of Engineers trying to tame the Mississippi. Highly recommend it.
Politicians and people in power are very fast to call on Climate Change. Weather happens, good or bad. Erosion also happens over long time scales, but can suddenly release slides of whole mountains. I live in Norway where we have it all, bad weather with lots of rain from time to time causing flooding. And mountains falling down every now and then creating havoc where it happens. This case in Suisse has nothing to do with climate change. I'm glad the professional stayed professional and denied the cause to be Climate Change, which it's not, good by him 🙂
Well, the professional was not quoted accurately in the video.
If the question is "is the cause climate change", the only appropriate answer is "no it isn't". Why? Because the geology in the town is the cause.
BUT, if the question is "does climate change contribute to the problem"? Then the answer is yes.
How do I know that? I'm a civil engineer in Switzerland and now enough about this case to talk about it.
The rain amount this year has been massive in Switzerland, and geologists who monitor the case mention it as a contributing factor of the acceleration of the landslide. And it turns out that the climate change brings more precipitations in Europe (especially in the North of the Alps and in the Alps.
What else?
The glaciers in the Alps are melting. No permafrost issue here like it is the case in other landslides in the Alps, but the glacier water is lubricating the sliding layer at 150 meters of depth. The acceleration of the melting brings more water.
There is an observed correlation between the amount of water and the speed of this progressive landslide.
Now, if you say that climate change is THE cause, it would be wrong, THE cause is this layer where there is a relative movement, and it is what it is. Doesn't mean that there is no contribution to climate change. Scientists in Switzerland are factual and measured in what they say.
People quoting only the part that they like in what those scientists say are in bad faith.
Here, the video is not accurate. And a video who would state that the climate change is THE cause would also be in bad faith.
One thing here locally that is a big concern is the Santa Fe dam and the Whitter Narrows Dam along the San Gabriel River. Apparently recent calculations by the Army Corp of Engineers say the system is not adequate for the "100 year" flood. Any clue as to what is going on with this potential disaster and really the whole flood control system in the Los Angeles basin ?
Thanks for that suggestion. I worked on the 7 Oaks Dam on the Santa Ana River during construction in the early 90's so it would be good to revisit what is going on there.
@@CaseyJones-Engineer That must be the one above Mentone. I lived in Yucaipa at that time. Went down Greenspot and things have changed since the night I was on my motorcycle, saw an owl on the road parked and sat down on the road for 20 minutes (no cars).
The Lac-Saint-Jean (Province of Quebec) area and the river Saguenay is prone to landslide. A famous one was at Saint-Jean-Vianney wich destroy 40 houses killing 31 persons. I visited the region and you clearly see why underneath the top soil the ground is highly compose of sand. Kind of dense network of streams, fold, cavity and gullies.
You didn’t notice that there was no enormous alpine lake in the published video footage before you selected the decent sized Brienz town right on the shore line of Lake Brienz near Interlaken in Google Earth/Maps? The slipping hillside small village is way to the east near Surava high in the mountains south of Chur over near the Austrian and Italian borders.
Oh yes, a new video!
It's in my country 💀
I cover topics from all over the world!
Are these sorts of landslides more commonly associated with 'young' mountain ranges rather than with older ranges like the Appalachians or Australia's Blue Mountains?
Sie mixen 2 Geschichten miteinander. Es gibt ein Briez in Osten von der Schweiz. im Kanton Graubünden. Da hat es kein See. Und dann gibt es ein Brienz im Kanton Bern. Am Brienzersee.
@@ursulawuthrich5533 Vielen danke!
Just look at the site topography the town is built on. Its on a previous slide area. Its the flattest piece of ground around in the valley surounded by hills
I'm surprised that no one has proposed to move the village at the top of the ridge.
Is there INSAR data of the area?
The Alps are in an active geological area, even if it's slow. So this isn't an event that's totally unexpected.
Is it possible for a landslide to occur in a swamp?
Reminds me of Hope BC landslide & the others on hwy3.
Just read Carying the Fire this month.
What did you think about it?
The people/residents of Frank, B.C. were fairly relaxed also until it was too late.
Do the vibrations from one slide cause more slides? I suspect that the increased volcanic activity around the world could be causing small vibrations that encourage slides. Nice video but, a bit scary. Good Luck, Rick
Thank you. I am not sure about the vibrations as rain events will have the biggest influence on the sliding.
@@CaseyJones-Engineer I agree but, remember using a small concrete vibrator when filling forms and how it can have primary affects but, a little ways down the form there could be secondary affects from the vibrations in the forms. The density of the bedrock can have funny energy transmissions. Good Luck, Rick
@@richardross7219 Interesting point. The short answer is that I don't know what the seismic effects are on the Alps. You have piqued my curiosity so I will look into it.
No volcanoes near Switzerland, the Alps are uplift mountains like the Rocky Mountains.
@@johnbeaulieu2404 There are active volcanos in Italy(the country to the south). Dense bedrock can transmitt vibrations for long distances. Volcanos can indicate slight shifts in continental plates. I live in CT. We have many earthguakes of magnitude 2 or less each year. We don't usually even feel them but, they could help an unstable slope to slide.
We want to live in these type of geological , climate active areas because they are full of beautiful scenes and nature. It’s to bad that not much foresight ( so it seems) is used when considering to build in these locals.
Thank you, great point! The other thing is that humans are highly adaptable which sometimes leads to putting up with these kinds of dangers.
History would show people aren't too smart😮😂😅😊
The village is first mentioned in 12th century. There was not much research done in these times.
Blaming people living there since medieval times of not having enough foresight is in no way better than blaming humankind for weather extremes. And saying people live there because they looked for beautiful scenes and nature? Really?
Thank you Casey for bringing up climate change. You are one of the few who are so brave.
I appreciate that!
Mountains are the result of impacted seabed sediment being uplifted by seismic events. I suspect that the upper layers would be poorly impacted and as a result, the surface of the mountains would consist of a large portion of loose matter. Add in the effects of ice and snow in breaking up material it is no wonder that there is a risk of rock slides. Is this a fair assumption from a non-geologist?
Yes, that is a good general summary. You made me realize that I need to go into the geology more in my next update video so thank you!
@@CaseyJones-Engineer Wow, I appreciate that from you.
That explains why it was difficult to locate those early climbers on Everest. They kept moving every year.
Imagine that, a mountain eroding. They don’t always erode in a steady state. Rock falls sometime mass waste the whole flank of a mountain. Isn’t anything new.
We have a road called the rest and be thankful, over 60 million has been spent trying to stabilise the side of the mountain with little success. It has become a very political issue as if no where else has landslides. (The A83)
In one respect at least you are right. Tectonic uplift in under loose aggregate cover material is, under continuing uplift going to want to go down hill. Permafrost is not a stay of execution on a high slope because ice is an amorphous solid and under heat cold cycles the is will flow. I mean that’s how glaciers work.
Then this particular issue is a granted, the village is in danger no matter how you look at it.
However the condition of rupture has to be considered also. The amount of moisture available for precipitation is higher when the oceans warm up and that’s a simple fact. In this particular circumstance that primarily saturated air may not ever reach the this particular location sufficient to cause a deluge. But there are subtle other effects. For one, the earths core remains at a static temperature and the crust heats up, then the crust expands more than the core, and this can cause buckling. The effects however could take thousands of years and in this situation the local stress will equilibrate with the occasional earthquake, so you are probably not going to see any independent ruptures due to bedrock heating.
So having said that let’s discuss the geology.
“The European Cenozoic Rift System (ECRIS) is a 1,100 km (680 mi) long system of rifts formed in the foreland of the Alps as the lithosphere responded to the effects of the Alpine and Pyrenean orogenies. “
“The Glarus thrust (German: Glarner Überschiebung) is a major thrust fault in the Alps of eastern Switzerland. Along the thrust the Helvetic nappes were thrust more than 100 km to the north over the external Aarmassif and Infrahelvetic complex.”
The various faults that run east west bent to the SW by the Jura formation. The most distinct of these is the periadriatic seam. As we learn from studying fault lines that bends in faults with long straight feature tend to create diagonal faults that release stress and be quite severe, the Nojima slip strike fault, an excellent example, had not ruptured in the historic period and thus was unknown. The area is not immune to earthquakes however, the convergence of fault systems near the alps is causing uplift. And thus we have a conclusion. While climate change might alter the intensity of landslides when they occur, it’s probably not going to affect the occurrence rate because E = MGH. If uplift lifts a structure 10 meters over 100 years. And the structure weighs a billion kilograms, that’s 100 giga joules of energy that a landslide can dissipate.
Since long term weather trends influence the slide's behavior (as quoted in the report), I would be surprised if climate change had absolutely no effect on the landslide. If the weather turns drier, it could even slow its progression. I have no idea how strong its influence would be. It could be insignificant or it might be measurable, but I'd be surprised if it didn't affect the slide at all.
Landslides and erosion are natural functions of mountains. it's what they do.
That town has been there for decades
Rapidly melting glaciers in Pakistan are causing problems for many people and villages there. They have flooding from these glaciers that is causing huge landslides there. I saw something on the news about that the other day.
Just an old timer scientist's thought on climate change: you can't change the background temperature without changing biological, physical or weather systems.
What you are saying makes sense to me.
Global warming is causing my losses at the race track
@@darkgalaxy5548 Maybe the track is too muddy cause a warmer atmosphere holds more water to dump on us.
@@OldJackWolf I need to find a horse that can cope with global warming 🐎
Swiss towns are pretty. Pretty damn dangerous if anything comes down the mountain.
that one obove the village is going on for centuries... in the last decade the village itself started to slide. it is due to climate change because the region was very dry and gets increasing amounts of water however it cant be due to human made climate change because trees have been found underneath the glaciers once they have molten. the picture you show are mostly not brinzauls Graubünden, but Brienz Bern because there is no lake closeby. in Brienz bern they dont deal with a sliding mountain but with debris flows. the system implemented at brinzauls is tunnels to dewater the ground beneath the village in order to reduce pessure on the geology. these small dams you show are not implemented in brinzauls because they are useless if installed on sliding ground. if you want an example of a dam constructed to stop a hillslide check the village of pontresina Graubünden. the dam there is massive. if you are interrested at current ongoing slides in graubünden feel free to contact me.
It's saving up its energy for the final sprint
Freeze thaw cycles is the issue no? Without them mountains would be so high. Ice ball Earth really flattened us down long ago.
Climate Change may have an impact on how quick it's sliding, but it's definitely not the direct cause of the slide. And frankly, it's one of those situations where it would probably be impossible to say whether or not Climate Change has had an impact. 🤷🏻
Looks like pure granite. Kinda beautiful
I just not got the pun. Now I want hot chocolate. Speaking of Switzerland, I
Would also like to find some (Gewehrpatrone 1890). I am sure somebody over there has some in the cupboard at Grandfather's house.
Thank you. You are the first to catch it!🤣
When they wave at their neighbors they really mean it.
Ah laurel and hardy 💡
My takeaway: climate change doesn't effect the speed at which rocks slide downhill 🙃
Yes there have been massive landslides before (human caused) climate change became a thing. Bonneville slide (AKA Bridge of the Gods) along the Columbia river. Currently dated around 1450 AD. All it takes is a steep enough slope and an underlying flaw in the structure. Another example is the Frank Slide 1903 (44 million cubic meters). I drove through there many years ago. Its quite a sight.
The mountain that the slide is coming from in Brienz, looks really fractured like the Russel Ranch unit in the Southern Washington Cascades.
One bad road cut with lack of maintenance of the draining system they will blame on global warming.
will you be doing a piece on real global climate change vs fake global climate change? perhaps starting in the arctic regions?
I was thinking about it but I am not quite ready to deal with the deluge of negative comments that I will get from some folks.
Little late on prevention,need to be packing everything you can.
1878 and they build a village in front of landslides?
Kinda goofy..
These slides are not unique. They do correlate to preexisting geology. Their frequency *does* correlate to extreme weather events. As the planet's atmosphere readjusts to new infrared radiation standards, extreme weather events become more common in many locations. Trying to credit *this* problem to a single source is problematic, but in general we can expect slides such as this to increase in frequency in the coming decades as our planetary atmosphere adjusts to the changes we make in the IR warming of the planet that are not evenly distributed geographically or temporally.
OK, Climate Change gets blamed for unrelated damage.....but it's no exaggeration to say that global warming REALLY DID just kick Florida right in the nards with unprecedented flooding in places like Orlando that had never seen such flooding before.......twice. Kicked Asheville North Carolina too, a town 240 years old that has seen high water, but never before has the river bed been scoured down to bedrock and completely changed its course. Like it is now.
like water it wants to flow downword
At least the marmots will be happy.
You don't happen to know some highly trained turtles do you?
Climate change is a phrase used by people who want to sound scientific, but do not know what they are talking about.
Another way to say "climate change" is to say "the weather is always changing". You have sunny seasons and you have snowy seasons. Climate change sound more scientific. I treat the phrase "climate change" as "the weather is always changing".
Remember, most news reports are reported by English majors.
I enjoy listing to Casey Jones because he is an engineer. He knows what he is talking about.
I say it is basically a religious term. You really need faith to be able to believe in it.
@@elbuggo You also need faith to belive humans cannot affect nature.
...said the Global Warming believer, @@catprog
There's a channel called Home made Documentaries he's done an amazing job with some of the best produced films about the American space programme. Well worth a watch if you get time. Enjoy your channel very much. Be well.
Thank you and thanks for the suggestion!
I got in a car accident last week due to global warming. I was reading an article on global warming and BAM! I rear ended another car.
🤣 At least you were driving an EV I'm guessing so all is forgiven!
If global warming wasn't a thing maybe it would have happened while you uploaded some content to your contentless channel.
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Greed is mostly the problem. Global warming, pollutions of all kinds, corruption, mass immigration, wars being byproducts of greed.
Lol climate change is a total psyop, there have been way warmer periods and we should welcome them. (I live by the arctic circle in Northern Sweden)
lol how did you manage to mention climate let alone climate change and negatively at that and not pull a wiki banner? As to the alps , geologically speaking the range is unique in being composed almost entirely of rock debris pushed up in to an overly steep loosely piled stack by Africa colliding with the European land mass in the prehistoric past. The aforementioned being the case the region is and always has been notorious for its instability and landslides. There is a drone video here on TH-cam from an entirely different part of the Alps that shows a bolder the size of a large building having slid down slope through an estate of some sort utterly destroying what looks to have been a barn and it is just one of several that are making their way down that slope in incremental slides.
I was half expecting that too!🤣
2:49 what a shock that walz immediately threw out the global warming card. thankfully, he won't be the next VP.
5:47 this.
True, not everything is caused by climate change. But you didn’t kind of skip over the gel just talking about other things that were being affected by climate change.
Are you saying that everything isn't related to climate change?
"instead, it is the long periods of extreme weather, such as very wet summers or very snowy winters, that seem to have an impact. But these are not directly attributable to climate change, he insisted." Seems like a legit conclusion to me.
Freeze-thaw cycle working at helping to weather down the mountains…no stopping it.
That's one of the major factors.
I guess y'all don't understand what is meant by climate change? So climate change is causing more rain, but it isn't causing the rock slides, those are caused by long periods of rain, which isn't climate change... even though they are happening more often... which IS caused by climate change according to what he said. So is he trying to say that any particular rock slide might have happened anyway, and the fact that they are happening more often doesn't mean that this specific one is caused by the change that makes them happen more often? It is tortuous trying to avoid saying that a rock slide has happened at this time, and with this severity, because of something that is caused by climate change... and yet this isn't caused by climate change. Really dude?
Politic jump on all kinds of things to try and support their propoganda.
I’m happy that you took a pass on describing the landslide that took place on election day… THANK YOU!
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It's not the channel's concern...REEEEEEE
@ do you have any idea how difficult it is to come up with a landslide joke that appeals to to a chat room full of people that find engineering content entertaining? You give it a shot…
Upton Sinclair
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
Global Warming
It is difficult to get a multibillion dollar carbon credit market to understand geology & earthquakes are not climate change when the whole carbon credit market depends on not understanding it.
Are you minimizing the effects of climate change? Perhaps you could do a video on what is and is not an effect of climate change.
I simply quoted a geologist in an article. Some people expect me to be hysterical about any implication of global warming.
I feel bad for their community but I think they need to move. :-/
I'm skipping adverts only 1 minute into the video. Fix that next time or it's bye bye buddy!
Bye.
you can't compare what is happening in the world with this situation in Brienz in Grisons in Switzerland. you have no idea
What exactly are you talking about? This story was about the areas in Switzerland that are having these slides. Did you watch the video?
The science of an old Earth doesn’t seem to fit with all the landslides in the world. An Earth older than 6000 years might be less mountainous and have fewer steep hills that can slide. What do you think?
I am in the camp that the earth is billions of years old. The earth is dynamic. Plate tectonics results in creation and growth of new mountains faster in some areas than what erosion does to bring them down.
@ Ok, sir, and some of the people on the Earth who are Christians, and Muslims, there are a few of us, have documented statements that the Earth isn’t more than 6000 years old. It is definitely an interesting possibility.
Mountain ranges have been raised, worn down, and raised again several times in various regions of Earth's crust. Example: Some 40 million years ago a flat worn-down region near sea level was elevated about 3 miles to become the Rocky Mountains. Some 5 million years ago a new block uplift began to form the Grand Teton range within the Rockies. The Tetons are still going up, as demonstrated by a visible active fault scarp along the eastern face of those mountains. All mountains on Earth begin to be worn down as soon as uplift begins, and the debris is carried by gravity and the forces of water and ice to become sediments that fill the low spots surrounding the highlands. This evidence shows processes that are common everywhere the proper conditions exist, today or have existed in the past.
@@stephenmeeks684😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yea ,ok.
@@Oldschoolrules123 The most amusing thought about this is that an insignificant entity, God, left it open to faith. A not too famous author and film maker once said, “Believe it, or not.” It does seem to be apparent that an old Earth might be a correct assumption, but in spite of all the billions of data pointing to an old Earth, God, who has held himself to be without error, and always tells the truth, does not actually say it. Humans, who lie at the drop of a hat, say the Earth is older than 6000 years. We might find out when we see God. (Atheists: Or Not.)
Schneider is a geologist. WTF he knows about meteorology and climate ? About as much as you and me. Stick to your speciality Schneider and don't pi** on someone else parade.
Wait, there's a climate parade?