Michael Jackson "BAD" Stories From The Sessions. Studio Owner Allen Sides on Sunset Sound Roundtable
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- Michael Jackson was a workaholic and was sometimes very odd. Allen Sides who is an legendary studio owner and recording engineer tells the story of having Michael Jackson as a long term client in his recording studio's for many years along with Bruce Swedien and Quincy Jones. Allen also tells the story of tracking the legendary "We Are The World" recording session with Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder and many more.
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Ooh, some tea has been spilled. The fanatics will have… coarse words here. 😸
Boy you got that right
Fanatics? No. Supporters yes. They know. Did Q have ANYTHING as big before or after Michael? NO.
@@Vibeagain What?
@@Angela-gc3krlol he was an extremely successful and we'll known producer before Michael had his first ever hit 😂
@@thatsentertainment6683, yes but Angela is right, Michael took him to a whole other level he wouldn't have reached without Michael.
There's a documentary about the making of We Are the World, including the night it was recorded on Netflix. MJ is in it. If he was high, he was the calmest "high" person ever.
Dangerous is such a great, great, album...
"Dangerous" is CRIMINALLY underrated.
Naw… there’s too many unnecessary songs on the albums he did after Quincy.. Quincy knew how to pick songs that got to the point. Michael just tried to fill the album with a bunch of songs
None of them guys would have had the careers they had in the 80’s if weren’t for MJ, wake up goofball smh 🤦🏻♂️
The artist need those studio guys to get all these great ideas onto the record/tape/CD that is "radio quality".
high as a kite during that period? interesting (?) tidbit but from all the footage I've seen of that recording session he seemed fine. maybe he was elated?
"dre is a great guy." ehhhhh....he did beat the shit out of his ex and seemed unrepentant about it. and he also assaulted dee barnes and joked about it on a record. great record producer, not such a great guy. this guy's takes seem dicey.
exactly
that part
Michael wasn’t a dancing monkey he was an EXTREMELY talented singer, dancer and performer. Don’t care if he liked candy or was eccentric, or even got high. There wasn’t and still isn’t any performer like MJ.
Nothing compared to Elvis, Tina turner and especially Mick jagger who Jackson copied so much
Didn't hardly sing live
@@dondamon4669wrong
@@dondamon4669he’s bigger than Elvis
@@dondamon4669 Ok crazy!!!
Michael was a kid, Q was a father figure, when he was gone the child took over, a brilliant child but one nonetheless
Conflicts aside
Michael was a great entertainer
I love these stories I wish I went to a Michael Jackson concert! and I wish I grew up in that era of music. Wonderful times with music. Not the same how music is now
I attended 'History tour' and it was 'unbelievable' and 'out of this world- Extra terrestrial'!!
mj was soo high and so dumb he couldnt pay you yet...here you are today because he worked with you. lets be honest here...
Fabulous and unrivaled Bruce Swedien and its JBL 4310 studio monitors for mixing the greatest long play of Mickael Jackson.
Nothing like trying to talk about MJ and he’s deceased. I’m sure he wouldn’t dare make claims about MJ being high during the recording of We Are The World if Michael was alive.
All I can say is "cope."
At this point, we all know that Mr. Jackson was coping with a painful scalp injury, and developing a dependence on painkillers.
@@crnkmnkythe "developing" began in the 90s, when he got new surgeries and had an aneorism on the top of his head. He began the 2nd leg of Dangerous tour wqy too early, didn't recover fully, so he was put on a higher dosage of painkillers. Then the child abuse allegations began and as they say he began to kill the psychological pain with painkillers. That's what we know. It's a fact MJ had issues in late 1993, when his deposition was filmed (in The girl is mine/We are the world lawsuit)
Michael was high? He looked the most sober person there. Shit if I were friends with Michael he would be walking around like this 😬 with me and Richard Pryor!!!
I think people just make a lot of mistaken assumptions about MJ coz he was so private. I don’t know what was going on with him during WATW but it couldn’t be drugs coz he was a strict Jehavoh’s Witness and even had chasers that prevented a high for the painkillers from the Pepsi burn which were only taken for a limited time. He was only on Lupus medication at the time. Maybe he was just excited and playful.. but who knows. He seemed very normal in the behind the scenes footage.
Excuse me? Lest we forget MJ was mentioned in a police investigation of doctors writing scripts to celebrities that were clearly " shopping around" i.e. going from doctor to doctor getting a prescription less say Percoset for Michael and getting hundreds of pills a month. Michael was one of the worst abusers. Doctors wouldn't touch him after a while. I don't remember what era this was probably early 90s.
so true
You're telling me there are "chaser" medications you can take to make painkillers less effective? And you believe Michael was taking these?
Most of the WATW footage shows Michael keeping to himself and being rather quiet. Many drugs can do that…
@globalcitizenn totally agree with you. I'm not buying the "high as a kite" narrative. Not only was he normal in the footage, but he was also the quickest to get all his parts down, and even taught the other soloists and choir members their parts. Also keep in mind that that session went on till the next morning so that would drive anyone a little crazy.
lol. Sycophant
Dude, „We are the world„ was recorded when Michael was the most successful artist in the world. We was riding on such a high emotionally, because of the success of THRILLER, so his behavior was just that: Giddiness and happy. He was in high spirits also, because they were in the process of recording a song that was so dear to him, because of its importance and meaning. It was dear to his heart, because he had been wanting to do a charity song for quite a long time and the fact that he got starstruck with other artist is the reason why he was such a goofball. I mean look at the star studded arraignment of singers for the project….!!!
He was wired that way. I am a kid from the eighties. I have witnessed his career. I have the tape of the „ Making of we are the world. I know how goofy, yet shy he was . He wasn’t high as a kite because he was taking something, he was having the time of his life, period.
It was at the height of his career. The eighties were such a dominant year for him. In the industry there was Michael Jackson and then there was everybody else. 😂🎉
Masterfully said!👏
He had hardly anything to do with it ,it was Lionel Richie
He was always high as a kite! Everyone knows this, he was in rehab lots and lots of times,it wasn't hidden, he would do demorol (heroin) in front of his adopted kids! He got away with everything! Disgusting reay
@dondamon4669 we all saw the Netflix documentary, most of the concept of we are the world came from Michael. Lionel filled out the lyrics , Michael made the melody and Lionel helped gather support. Stop spreading misinformation because you are a Michael Jackson hater
4:43 how was Michael high as kite? he looks perfectly fine in the making of We are the World and he was even helping other sing their parts, he acted a little standoffish but it’s understandable being the biggest star in the room and everyone staring at you.
Why no mention of the fact that Michael wrote most of the song, or how about the fact that Michael was at studio longer than any artists recording the background vocals? I felt like this video focused a little too much on the negative of Michael and then praising Quincy, strange. I suggest y’all watch the making of We are the World and see how important Michael was to that recording session.
I interpreted that as emotionally high not high on drugs. Like manic.
@@ppm2 he said right after “I don’t know what he had been dealing with” and usually the phrase ‘high as a kite’ refers to drugs.
Knowing how the media tears Michael apart he should’ve been more careful with his words. But throughout the video he slightly bashes Michael in order to uplift Quincy so I don’t put much weight into what he is saying.
If Michael Jackson was as “High as a Kite” on the recording session for ‘We Are The World’, it will have been from painkillers from the burn on his scalp from the 1984 Pepsi Commercial. As that Pepsi burn changed MJ’s life more than people know, which left him living in severe pain, in which he had to have multiple operations on his scalp well past even the 1990s, which he sort medication (ie non-recreational drugs) to ease physical pain.
I was disappointed with the video, not the worst, but it was another one of those “Let’s be negative about Michael Jackson” talks. As important as Quincy Jones was to the three albums he produced (MJ co-produced the songs he wrote, and did most of the production on them before Quincy Jones was in the studio), Quincy Jones is too often overly praised in a way to undermine Michael Jackson.
The most famous and biggest hits on the three albums Quincy Jones produced with Michael Jackson, were mostly written and composed solely by Michael Jackson. On ‘Bad’ Michael Jackson wrote and composed all but two of the songs himself, and a lot of the producing on the songs, such as ‘Smooth Criminal’ were produced at his home in Encino, California, before Quincy Jones got to co-produce them.
Another fact is all of Michael Jackson’s albums with Quincy Jones were mostly produced at ‘Westlake Studios’, who I think will have a different take on irrelevant and unsubstantiated comments as Michael Jackson being high as a kite. Even Quincy Jones has always said that Michael Jackson was always well prepared when he came to the recording studio, and even more so than other artists he’d produced. This video makes it wrongly look like Michael Jackson came to the studio not to record and was recording for Quincy Jones, when in fact Quincy Jones was producing for Michael Jackson, as he was hired by Michael Jackson who back in 1978 fought with Epic/CBS executives for Quincy Jones to produce ‘Off The Wall’, as the executive thought Quincy Jones was just a jazz producer not suited to producing a Michael Jackson album.
@@benscr exactly 👏🏼
There are several pics of Michael drinking Budweiser in the studio with Springsteen during the recording of We Are The World, So it probably isn't out of question, that some artist started sharing beers during the ALL NIGHT recording process & probably handed or convinced Michael into partaking with them. If this was the case, I wouldn't doubt Mike could have been a bit inebriated & just because you're inebriated doesn't mean you can't play it off like you're sober.
4:46 This was probably after his scalp got fried filming that Pepsi commercial so he probably was on heavy pain killers.
This is just this guys take on this. John Landis said that dealing with Michael on the Thriller video when the cameras were off was like dealing with a ten year old. But he said it with a lot of affection. All of his life he was very hyper and he was so fun loving. In behind the scenes in the Making of Thriller you can see MJ running around and sliding across the floor. I'm sure he had to take painkillers at that time due to the scalp injury but come on man!
he was full of energy
In the same breath hundreds of people who worked with him described him as “an old soul, way beyond his years”
@@chazbayleynot in a weird way but I wish I could dissect michaels brain, he has so much lore
@sunsetsoundrecorders8522….Wasn’t Humberto Gatica involved in the whole “ We are the World” process? Alan Sides was there to help in the process no??? The main people in the production were Quincy of course, Lionel Richie, Michael and on the technical part Humberto Gatica doing the recording of the main recording vocals at A&M studios, not Bruce, not Alan Sides….. sorry but let’s get that clear!!!!!
You are giving all the credit to Quincy Jones because of the great admiration you have for him. Sure, he was the producer, but so was Michael. He wrote his songs, both lyrics and melodies, and produced them before Quincy came to the studio. He worked his own choruses or harmonies, spent hours and hours perfecting his sound. Let's not forget about the great Bruce Swedien, the sound engineer. The guy in this interview portrays Michael as useless and a drug addict.
I didnt really get that from it. He said MJ was a little high when he came to record We Are The World. Nothing wrong with that. But its clear he was a little freaked out that MJ filled the studio up with candy and dolls. Candy for eating is cool but filling the place up with dolls is kind of weird. After all its a business, not your house. I am totally cool with MJ and his eccentrities. Artists are eccentric. But when they force their eccentricities (dolls) on others in their place of business thats kind of inconsiderate.
@@m00ndawg There are testimonials from the artists and musicians who participated in the song and never said that Michael seemed to be a "little stoned". If he really was high that day, it's amazing how in that state, he was able to help other singers record his parts and on top of that, sing your own part of the song without any problem; both choruses and verses. Quincy Jones even describes Michael as being very professional and helpful to the other artists. That's why I find it strange that he says that he was supposedly "high". And yes, I agree with you, Michael was different. All the artists had their "eccentricities" that made them unique.
@@m00ndawgMichael is the main attraction, he is the money maker if he wants to have candy and dolls so be it.
Nobody is forced to work with MJ, if he felt uncomfortable he could’ve easily left but no he clearly stayed and enjoyed the benefits that later came with working with MJ. Stop making excuses for this man.
@@weluvfood2865 Michael isnt "the main attraction" in a studio though. In the studio he's a customer. This man owned studios. They were his property. Its not like he kicked Mike out. He simply walked into his own business saw hundreds of dolls and thought to himself, "dolls, thats weird." May come as a shock friend but people have inner thoughts. You cant construe every little thought as an attack or hate. Its just one dude sharing his experience.
@@m00ndawgWho are they working for? Michael Jackson, so yes he is the main attraction, the work is for his album. Michael is paying to utilize the studios, therefore he can do whatever he wants to do. Some artists bring alcohol, strippers etc to help with their creative process, if MJ liked to have candy and toys then thats his prerogative.
If he didn’t like it he could’ve kicked him out or simply not worked with him. Its that simple, all I’m saying is the constant digs at Michael were unnecessary because I bet he didn’t say this to Michael when he was around..
THIS is where you make the big bucks in music.
Hello Everyone, 👋
Please remember that Michael Jackson had been performing since he was 5 years old. He never and I repeat never had a childhood. He was always working to support and entertain audiences around the World. He was young when he was told he had to fly to the UK and perform. Michael had never been on a plane and he was scared to death. None of you are in his shoes. Then to find out as an adult that your father had not paid off the family home after Michael did the album Off the Wall, he had to go back into the studio and he slept on the floor recording Thriller which helped pay off the house and he deeded the house to Katherine. That's on the record and Michael told this himself. As the Scripture says take heed where you stand lest you fall. They're opening his life up in the studio and this kind of scrutiny is not a good look no one could hold up and I have heard worse behavior from a lot of rock stars. Remember, when Michael was releasing an album the entertainment industry, MTV, and all music video platforms were on alert even the networks had to play his music videos. Everyone was tuned into MTV for the latest Michael Jackson video world premiere. That's how it was back then. Have a Blessed Day. 👏
He had a way better childhood than most people.
@@lucasoheyze4597 No he did not. Take a look at the house he and his siblings lived in Gary, Indiana. Get your facts straight before giving an opinion.
I've always heard the studio business actually peaked in the '90s. The CD really changed everything. CDs cost $0.50 to make, but you could sell them for $10. That meant that record labels were more willing to take a risk. That meant more big projects for studios. Pro Tools didn't come around until the late '90s, and was still too expensive for the general consumer to own.
It’s really a shame what Napster did to the industry. Truly. It absolutely decimated the business and ALL the businesses that were attached. There was more breadth and variety of music exactly because of what you said. Labels were more willing to take risks. Yes the internet allows anyone to be heard and get out there. That’s a problem in and of itself. Everyone is out there. Finding quality isn’t easy. So glad to see many big studios still in business. There’s a vibe to them and a sense of being a part of a legacy. Not to mention the expertise and knowledge. Studio engineers etc are masters at what they do. Anyone can get a pro tools rig at home but unless you know how to use it what’s the point. If you never tracked in a real studio do yourself a favor before you leave this earth and book a session. It’s pure magic.
@@tdz69 All that's true, but it was coming either way. As soon as the mp3 was invented and the internet was in widespread use, the death of the physical album was inevitable. If it hadn't been Napster, it would have been someone else. People will always prefer free or very cheap, regardless of the longterm consequences.
Spotify is a slight improvement over Napster because at least people are paying something, but $10 a month doesn't lead to a profitable industry. I mean, Spotify pays $0.003 per stream. No one's making money off that, not even the label (let alone the artist). An artist used to make $1-2 off the sale of an album regardless of whether you played it once or 1000 times.
Some big studios are still in business, but a lot have closed. And the ones that are still open operate on a much reduced scale. A typical project in the past might have five or more people working on it -- producer, mix engineer, audio engineer, assistant engineer, intern, etc. Nowadays, it will often have one person doing all those roles. And because of the diminished recording budgets, the amount of time bands can spend in the studio really getting something right is greatly reduced.
I do think it's a great time to be a hobbyist musician. I can record something at home, on my limited setup, that sounds FAR better than anything I recorded in the 90s. I had bands back then, and we would save for months until we had $1000, and that would get us like a week in the studio to record a whole album. And it was a cheap studio without great equipment and with people who didn't really know what they were doing. So the results were bad. Now I can spend three months on a single song if I want. The average indie band sounds far better now than they did then. But I agree that the music industry as a whole has suffered. It's a great time to be a hobbyist, but a terrible time to be a professional musician.
Once I saw the Digi 001 at the AES in 99, I knew it was over
@@rome8180 In 1982 people all around the world had a copy of Michael Jackson on tape that they had recorded off the radio. This didn't stop them going out and buying the album that sold 70 million copies.
Sound Designer was mid 80s and Pro Tools was already on its second version by 1993.
I wish people would stop talking shit about people who are no longer around to defend themselves. Shame on this bloke, whoever he is…
Michael wanted to escape from this world and abused convenient drugs like a lot of people do, until finally intense drugs took him out of this world. That's an assessment based on solid data. Stop with the cry baby stuff
@@Vibeagain I wasn’t talking about Michael in particular. Talking smack about dead people grinds my gears, regardless whoever it is.
@@doalwa what smack?
The world 🌎 lost a great genius ❤ wish I had seen him in concert he gave his fan all his love 🙏👑🎤
Ask people to clarify when they speak, "High as a kite" Context please(?) People!?!?
If they see a grown man act happy & excited or mischievous like a kid they just assume he’s on drugs I guess. Of course MJ was a very strict Jehovah’s Witness at the time & was only on his lupus medication.
drugs! Easier now
Love the look of Sunset Sound studios, Michael Jackson is one of my fave male music entertainers ever, the bad album is a brilliant genius pop album, thanks to all the contributed to it. So is the recording and creation of We Are the World. 👑⚜️💎🏆🎙️🎶🎵♥️❤
these guys were so lucky to be part of such iconic music history.
Who are they, again? Oh, no, wait. Sorry. I don't care.
He made one good album! He wasn't exactly the Beatles Elvis or the stones
@@dondamon4669 You are gravely mistaken if you think that was all hype with Michael Jackson. I have never seen a recording artist do such wondrous works of art...and, no, I'm not kidding or exaggerating. I say this as die hard Elvis (a distant cousin of mine), Stones, and Beatles fan. Of course it wasn't all about him either but people he collaborated with. This is not like Taylor Swift whom I do NOT understand the phenomenon at all other than something clearly happened during the Covid lockdowns across the planet where a bunch of people decide to congregate and support this person who I do NOT think is really talented at all. I think SHE is unlistenable. The way I put it with her is that if you think rice cakes, cotton candy, and mac n' cheese are delicacies (and I love mac n' cheese) then you will LOVE that girl who is as plane and boring as one could and or can be.
To all you MJ haters who wanna proclaim Quincy to be the mastermind behind MJ's success(which is utterly ridiculous), how many popular commercial hit songs was Quincy a part of before "Off The Wall" & after "Bad"? Hey, i actually have great respect for the accomplishments of Quincy Jones, but Q was a jazz musician, for the most part. Michael & Quincy collaborated on 3 albums("Off The Wall", "Thriller", "Bad") & the one with the most Quincy infuence is "Off The Wall". Even with Quincy's significant contribution on "Off The Wall", Michael was the great talent that made that album a smash.
@@reasonsreasonably You really are triggered huh? I appreciate your concern regarding my Quinvy Jones acumen, but I don't need Google to be aware of his vast achievements. With that said, Quincy started as a jazz musician & although he expanded to other things, he was basically a jazz artist. This is kinda funny to me because Quincy, himself, would not disagree with his main chops being in the genre of jazz. Respectfully, I believe your comprehension of my comment was off. Q is a very talented man with many accomplishments under his belt, but I just stated he wasn't the mastermind of Michael Jackson's success & HE WASN'T! They collaborated on 3 albums together, whereas Q, contributed as the main producer. You stated I lied about something...what did I lie about? Please be more specific!
@@reasonsreasonably Thanks for clarifying what you believed I lied about! Yeah, we are going to have to agree to disagree on that one. Btw, I'm not purposely attempting to debate you, but you called me a liar & I outright refute that. With all Q's great accomplishments, before working on "Off The Wall", his foray into that genre of music(pop/r&b/soul) was limited at best. Anyways, I hope your back fully recovers & you feel much better soon. Until then, enjoy the recovery process. 😊
Best TH-cam Content period...GREAT interviews
@@billboedits he made sure he left us before his prime ran out
@@Vibeagain His prime never ran out. Hurts you, doesent it? His doctor unalived him.
@Angela-gc3kr
lol. You're actually one of those who wants to blame Dr Murray aren't you? This is what stars who are junkies do to people and you're exactly who I was targeting here. Wakey wakey, fanboy
@@Angela-gc3kr.
This guy sounds like he has a personal agenda.
Don't be ridiculous, and don't be a fanboy to your detriment either
@@Vibeagain Fanboy cause this guy comes off like a jerk? Everyone has a right to there opinion, even you apparently.
@@jamesway he doesn't at all. That's how I know you are unrealistic and ridiculous
@@Vibeagain 🥱
yup...a book maybe?
The money story was completely unnecessary
I like the honesty in these stories. I would believe e Michael was high as kite as was said because he was fantastic but had issues. Let's fact it, musicians get high as do other folks. Wonderful stories. Thank you.
And the 80s were wild!
He was the king. You got to see the master at work. Sir, calm down and take a seat. He could be as eccentric as he wanted because he most likely made your career 😂
He seems to like giving Quincy all the credit when his work with Michael is a collaborative effort.
We’re you there?
MJ was collaborative artist, he wasn't Prince. That doesn't take anything away from the Legendary artist MJ is and was but us music nerds have the credits so you can't make stuff up with us like the pop mainstream crowd. What you should have said was MJ co wrote his songs and lyrics but there are still people out there who say MJ wrote Ben when it was written by Don black. MJ also had many producers, writers on hold for him and that's not only according to the history books but his nephews 3T stated that in their reality show. MJ will always be amazing but he was a collaborative artist but MJ hired quincy for a reason and quincy did do most of the work musically, you can tell the difference by MJ's music after the bad album. Quincy put a lot soul into MJ and During that time, before off the wall MJ's career was dwelling. He was desperate to work with quincy because of the genius musician quincy is. LOL it doesn't take away the fact that MJ is still an amazing dancer, singer, and just an incredible artist overall but stop trying to make him Prince.
@@sunsetsoundrecorders The people who worked with MJ and actually got to know personally him have a different opinion. Especially his recording engineers including Bruce Swedien who said MJ was the most prepared and professional artist they ever worked with. I think people are noticing the contradiction. The studio owners interacted with MJ but were not necessarily in his inner circle. It’s true he took a lot more time making albums after Quincy left coz he struggled with perfectionism which is a by product of having a Narcissistic father & having suffered complex childhood trauma.
@@saiyanleague653 Billie Jean ( co write ? no) Beat it ( co write ? no) etc Quincy played the instrument ? no its a team. there is a difference after BAD, its call evolution, to hipHop its was big jump risked
@saiyanleague653 I concur. Why MICHAEL never became proficient on an instrument is kinda of a strike against him. Even his brothers managed to get that step resolved early on. Allright the dance thing he out did his contemporaries and that's a great accomishment. But there are better lyricists. There are better musicians there are better dancers there are better live acts. Without collaborators MJ would still be acting in shows like the WIZ and playing high-school auditoriums.
Quincy quit coming around but MJ surpassed his creative abilities, and MJ no longer needed him. That simple.
I don't think so. MJ never produced anything of the same quality later on. Its most likely that he was pressed to leave QJ behind by people around him or that he had become a control freak.
Love hearing these interesting tidbits and backstories of true artists when music was genuine, unlike today.
Really humble guest 🥴
Got paid 18mil and tripped about 1
Make sure to watch the documentary Thriller 40 👍🏽👍🏽 🎉
@3:44- It's hilarious to see Dre' sitting at these monster 96+ channel mixing consoles. Dude, you're not producing Mikey J. or EWF. 😅
His albums became all over the place after he stopped working with Quincy…. Quincy knew how to pick songs and get to the point… all his albums after QJ are cluttered with unnecessary songs…
wtf did MJ and Kissinger talk about.
lol. Yeah really. Looks like he purposefully tracked w another Elvis shenanigan
He WAS high as a kite. He had just gone through one of his reconstructive surgeries on his scalp burns. He has Discoid Lupus with skin involvement, and his skin never healed from his burns in 1983. He went through life in almost constant pain, as his skin stayed raw and unhealed. There's footage from a photo shoot in 2007 where the stylist is pulling his hair in that area and Michael is clearly in severe pain. So yeah, he was on painkillers. Wow. Scandalous. That's what happened with his nose. After his second nose job, the skin and the cartilage at the tip got infected and it never healed. The subsequent nose surgeries were just attempts to fix the damage. When he was asked why he never explained it, he said that people would believe what they wanted. Its true... he tried talking about the vitiligo but it took until his autopsy to prove it and people STILL wont let it go. He had to deal with a part of humanity that is ugly, bitter, and miserable inside themselves. The kind of people who have so much hate they have to spread it. The kind who cant accept or deal with their own sicknesses and perversions, so they see it everywhere they look. He didnt deserve that.
Wow, just a great video!!!!!!
"High as a kite" heheh would be fun to have seen that for real :D
Henry Kissinger and Michael Jackson, together. Interesting 🤪
Quincy really did not have to do hardly anything as to Michael's. Demos was full. Complete songs and just needed a little bit of tweaking. But most of that came from bruce sweedein
Michael being “high as a kite” ? 🤔 idk about that one
Michael is the vessel through which many teacher their greatest success because of how hard Michael worked and how much he was loved and respected. Quincy is best known because Michael Jackson put him on the global map. Michael couldn't have reached his heights without Quincy and learnt a great deal from him. A true partnership.
Many of us believe that, on the contrary, Michael's talent was so enormous that he would have succeeded even without Quincy. The best proof of this is that he continued his career without Quincy, and even made great success and improvements, whereas Quincy's success in the latter period was much, much more modest. Many of us believe that without Michael Quincy would never have achieved such success and fame at this level in the public eye.
@@reasonsreasonably, no, the fact is; without Michael Quincy would never have achieved such success and fame at this level in the public eye.
@@reasonsreasonably, No one wants to criticize Quincy or diminish him. I was just responding to your comment that tried to deny this fact, even though you were making the point anyway. On the other hand, there are a number of people who would have people believe that a lot of Michael Jackson's success came from Quincy's work, which is completely untrue.
Quincy himself was quite disdainful of Michael's work after their collaboration, while it was better and more personal, and seemed to want to give himself a more important role than he had. That's another subject, but it's worth setting the record straight.
@@reasonsreasonably, I know that you didn't say it and I didn't pretend that you did. And again I didn't attack Quincy, I clarified what needed to be clarified, not just for you, but for those who are concerned.
@@reasonsreasonably, I didn't make a mistake and it wasn't me who contradicted myself but you in the comment above the one you quoted. And it wasn't for the same thing.
Eu nao conhecia o quince ate ele trabalhar com mj e ja conhecia mj
People just can't accept the fact that michael had a great team and it wasn't just him. I know it's hard to believe. 😂😂😂
Mike could've been high on pain pills. This wasn't but maybe a year after him getting burned at the Pepsi commercial filming.
1:30 - 3:45 & 4:20 - 5:00 He said MJ was high as a kite during WATW and that he saw MJ in a lot of different states. I wonder if he means manic. (Allen’s on the Grammy’s Board of Governors and the owner of the top studio in LA)
A lot of the kids I knew who were around 4th grade at the time and had seen MJ interviews for years perceived at the time that MJ seemed high. With in a few weeks to a year it came out that one or more people there thought MJ seemed high and hyper or something like that and that Quincy was having to keep him under control and kids talked about that for years after, even in the mid 90s.
People wondered what he was acting like when the cameras weren’t on him and also if they had to cut things out when they were editing what they had filmed. And people wondered if that was the real reason he did his own recording in a separate room by himself from the other artists.
Kids back then thought it was likely MJ was on medication for the scalp burns or complications from them, like the migraines he was known to be suffering from as a result at the time.
We wondered if that was the real reason he didn’t go to the awards show that night. He WAS wearing an ostentatious gold embroidered jacket that looked like a prince and people thought was beautiful and probably made for the awards show, but totally inappropriate for a charity event where they were supposed to be focused on saving the lives of desperately poor 3rd world people who were starving to death. We wondered what Bob Dylan and Paul Simon thought about that and if that was part of the reason they looked so miserable and judgemental LOL
It’s also highly possible too that he was manic. A lot of people talked about that as a serious possibility after people started learning about manic depression in the mid 90s and thought that would explain a lot about him. Elton John said that MJ seemed to become mentally ill in the 80s and that it was bad in the mid 90s and how sad it was.
There is a famous video that was shown on TV during or right after Thriller (on TH-cam )of MJ sitting in a chair in (I think) a studio and talking too fast and moving his head too fast. It came out during Thriller and us kids thought he looked “manic” which back then meant something somewhat different than our current accurate understanding of what a manic state is. We kids were surprised they released that video and people still mentioned it well into the 90s.
I was born exactly one week after "We Are the World" was released. I've never really talked to friends about my love for MJ, or what we thought was happening in his mind.
I never noticed how out of place Michael looks in that opulent jacket. It doesn't match the vibe at all, but it certainly matches how he is featured in the song. 🤔
I've never heard any of these observations, particularly from young people before the internet was common. I appreciate the perspective!
Jackson was an eccentric. Like all genius level men, he wouldn’t have been so brilliant if he wasn’t so eccentric. Complaining about eccentricities in an artist is a bit like complaining about the position of the nose on your face being too close to your mouth. Stupid.
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We see him recording alone in the studio recording and is totally normal, sings great, follows Quincy's directions. I wonder if he is recalling the right time?
Yeah something doesn't add up there.
Taking that one picture says a thousand words to a whole new level, aren't you
@@Vibeagainyour comments are just a little obsessive dude… for someone coming for MJ fans, you seem to be the only MJ obsessed one here
@@enexius67 I'm a psychologist and I'm helping you. Sharpen up
@@Vibeagain Uhuh and I’m a neurologist that’s letting you know that there’s a chemical imbalance off in your brain and you should really get that checked out. Your 49 comments on this video under every other comment is more concerning than any diehard fan in here.
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QJ is a creep
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This excerpt greatly overestimates Quincy Jones' role in the production and creation of the "BAD" album; the MISNOMERED B team,, lead by the incredibly talented John Barnes had already created most of the selections on the "BAD" album, while the SO-CALLED Ateam, led by Quincy Jones merely polished the tunes. Even after this polishing, the compositions were basically the same, with Michael Jackson being irritated, because they were not as soulful as the work produced by the MISNOMERED B Team. The A team, again led by Quincy Jones, also horribly treated John Barnes, not giving Barnes credit for Barnes' work on "We Are The World", which wasn't negligible. The atrocious (& undeserved) treatment of John Barnes is delineated in The MJCast's podcast episodes 89 &142, while John Cameron's JCsMusicology podcast gives the disgusting details in his "Michael Jackson (1983-1988)" podcast. Quincy Jones (and I hate to say even Michael Jackson) is not all he's portrayed to be; when it comes to the "BAD" album, he's frankly overrated.
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Not everyone in the music and showbiz has to be a scripted, PC public relations agent to always speak well of artists. People are entitled to be real and to speak out their mind so if MJ seemed "high as a kite" to him is because he sensed that he was and he didnt have to know about all of the problems he had (he doesn't have to) or what he had been taking back then (and knowing about MJs history with drvgs, it could have been likely thta he took a little too much that night). And he seemed to be a little partial on Quincy's side but thats just because he was there and got to know and perceive first hand about the quality of the production of his music and he thinks that his music was better with Quincy than without him. Hes not saying that Michael wasnt able to have any more hits or to make any more great songs, hes just stating his opinion as a studio owner which is understandable.
Exactly!!! Allen is a good man and a gift to the world of audio. He was very complementary and also is an honest person. When people hear the truth, they try to attack and suppress truth
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Our finest luminaries are not immune to the pains in life that will often lead one to seek to manage that in various ways. Indeed, often they will have a more difficult go at it than we. I am loath to see running nonsense cover for folks / overshining a halo!
Allen's gift to us is it was not pollyanna, it was informative, and it was straight. Tell him thank you
Incredible interview. Thank you, from Florida.
HEE HEE! I want more hee hee stories!
Them little boys don't.
@@agentbillstoll6235 regardless of the veracity of the reports your comment is still stupid AF
I didn't know MJ was a budweiser dude! Who knew?
Shame quincy wasn't around for This is it to stop the drugs
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It is funny to me that this opened with Purple Rain.
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Wacko jackos 😂🎉
* Michael was as high as a kite *
Came to the comments to look at the crazies defending MJ and I wasn't disappointed! I was such a massive fan of MJ but I find the incessant defence of the man by deluded fans very tiring
Well when Michael has been talked about so negatively for a long time, it gets pretty tiring. That's not beinf "delusional."
Exactly
That's just weird lmao. You went out of your way especially to see if there were MJ fans defending him? OMG now I've heard everything 🤦🏾
none of the fans defending MJ are crazies dummy they're defending him because nonsense is being said about him the moron in this interview is saying such bullcrap about MJ he wasn't high as a kite he didn't smoke none of the painkillers he was taking was making him high just dumb assumptions being made and trying to downplay MJ as if quincy did everything MJ wrote the songs, came up with the melodies co produced 80% of the mega successful bad album 🤡 smh ✌️
OK, so it's not delusional to make assumptions about MJs state of mind, but it's delusional to point out, that nobody else have ever mentioned he was high as a kite during the recording of We are the world? Who is the delusional here? It seems to me when it comes to MJ only the wild assumptions are OK, but pointing out that maybe it's not true is a delusional standpoint. Very interesting.