Triumph Bonneville T120 long term review. WHAT THE OTHER REVIEWS DIDNT TELL YOU!
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- Ive lived with the Bonnie for almost 6 months now., and for all the research i did before purchasing, nothing prepared me for the realities of ownership! first impression reviews and press reviews can only scratch the surface, but ownership, in time, reveals the good, the bad, and the ugly!
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i am going to watch this again when i am sober. loved the way you talked about your ex......
At last an honest straightforward reviewer, answering all the questions a rider needs to know. Great review, thank you, subscribed 👍
Stuart, I've heard from other riders that the biggest problem with triumphs is the indifference of the dealers, as you say they just shrug their shoulders when you point out a defect, do you think that this is still the case, and would that influence you buying another triumph.
Thank you for that honest and thorough review!
Detroit Dizzle your welcome.
Great review, and I've subscribed, well done.👍
Great to have a honest review very informative. It's such a pity that the dealerships can't be honest and help sort out problems instead of putting up obstacles.
Great review!! Most reviewers provide a full review within 2 days of getting the bike but you on the other hand actually rode the bike for long time and provided a honest and professional review.
I wanna ask if these problems are still present in newer models. Also if T100 is a better choice over T120 (no financial restrictions).
Thanks for excellent reviews Stuart. Love watching your channel! I'm totally hooked on the T120 and looking to get one in the spring. I am planning to use it for commute a couple days of the week. But approx 20 minutes of the roas to work is a 70 mph speed limit highway. Do you think that would be ok with the T120 in terms of wind and comfort at higher speeds?
Good review. I've had my T120 black since April last year and use it every day, rain or shine as a commuter in London. Over 4K miles so far.
I love it, and getting up for work is that much easier very day knowing I get to ride it to the office, but it does have some quirks:
1. Those squeaky brakes. I mean, you cruise up to the traffic lights, engine sounds great, looking good, then eeeeeeeeeeek. Kinda ruins the moment.
2. The black version holds up tho the elements much better than the chrome, but has deloped a few rust spots, particularly around the shocks and spokes. That said, mine lives outdoors under a cover all year and gets used in all weathers so it's to be expected. Recently treated the whole thing with ACF 50 and that seems to have made a big difference. I'd recommend it.
3. I've had a few electrical issues. Firstly the hazard lights only working on one side, water ingress setting the alarm off (admittedly after a visit to the local hand car wash, so probably my fault), rear brake sticking (light permanently on), product recall on fuel pump as mentioned in the review, and finally the issue they are now recalling where the throttle sticks due to expansion of the rubber when the heated grips are on. Sounds bad when you write it down, but the guys at Metropolis in Vauxhall have sorted all the problems our straight away without any issues.
4. Tubed tyres. I know the deal with spoked wheels but I've had 2 flats so far and they really ruin your day. Much easier to plug a tubeless tyre and get on the move again. I wish they'd do a deal with Alpina or someone and fit tubeless spoked rims as standard. It's supposed to be a modern bike after all.
All this aside though. The bike just makes me happy. When you have a connection with a bike you can forgive a lot, and I wouldn't change it. Roll on the summer!
Also, Stuart - does your fly screen make much of a difference at high speeds?
Dan Vickers hey Dan, yeah in some ways I think triumph have been a victim of their own success and they were not prepared for the sales they actually recieved. problem is they put all the warranty issues on a back burner and prioritized sales and development, which is a shame because they have let a lot of people down!
re acf50 I agree it is good stuff! ive not heard aout the throttle sticking problem that sounds a little worrying! im dealing with a different dealership to the one I bought the bike from now. the original one just dealt with everything using lies and disinformation. you sound like your dealer is more honest and on the the ball!
Dan Vickers oh and ive just done a review on the screen, uploaded on thursday, and yes it does make a difference. tbh I would go for the triumph one ive heard the fit and finnish is much better, please let me know how you get on if you get one.
Stuart Fillingham there's now a recall about the Bonnie throttle. Saw it against a photo of a T100, but if there's shared components, it may affect yours, so certainly worth a call.
Gorgeous bikes! I was messing around on the configurator earlier, and I think I'd actually go for a modded Street Twin as I love the deep red tank.
thanks for that, I gave them a ring yesterday and apparently my bike is not affected by the throttle problem, lol that makes a change!
All good then! Always worth a check.
Glad my chum just put me onto your channel.......I like honest reviews it helps us all avoid heartbreak :-)
welcome aboard sir! glad you like it so far, stick around foe more of the same!
While I have you here did you discover why the brakes squeal? Is it a metallurgical issue?
That is one of lifes great mysteries sir! i believe its a mismatch between the brake pad and disc that causes resonance however a hard braking regime for the first hundred miles or so seems to sort it and Triumph have eliminated it on the latest models!
It's all good, that's what we like to hear, peace and harmony in the world of motorsickles.....thanks :-)
After all the years that Triumph have been building the Hinckley Bonnevilles , this bike should be perfect . I'll be hanging on to my Suzuki Intruder 1500 for quite some time , as i believe it's a much better bike in every way , especially with it's shaft - drive , excellent handling ( for a cruiser ) , reliability , and fuel consumption . Have owned 2 Bonnie's , so i do know what i'm talking about .
This is the best review I’ve seen. I found a gently used 2018 at a dealer near me yesterday and am buying it. Had gone into the dealer looking at a Husky Svartpilen 701 and saw that they had the Bonnie that they had just taken in. It’s in perfect shape.
Stu, your review is great and is an eye opener as to what to expect. Some of the issues you pointed out are a little unnerving and I do hope they sorted them out by the 2018 model year. I guess I’ll have to see how it goes for me. I need a bike like this that still has some soul. I could go for a Japanese naked/standard or even modern retro but they just seem too bland.
I love your final analogy comparing the Bonnie to an ex-girlfriend. Haha! Awesome.
Oh, and I got my gauges replaced on my Thruxton R under warranty, and my replacements condensed up too! :-)
The wiring loom was also replaced under warranty... They did that the same time as my decat...
Also, my engine cases (brushed aluminium) pitted fairly badly, and they aren't covered under warranty. This is my only negative on the engine cases.
My dealership had been excellent. Herts Triumph. But mainly it seems to be that Triumph claim that the dealers should tell customers all these details, but the dealers do not know this... Perhaps, better communication with your dealerships Triumph!! So expectations can be equal on all sides...
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Yes there does seem to be a distinct lack of communication between the two, well, the three if you include the customer. if your casings have not gone too far they can be brought back up again with a bodyshop scotch pad, then just keep a good coating of ACF50 on the casings to stop it happening again! only brush it one way though with the pads to replicate the original finish. Thanks for taking the time to comment Sir Im honoured!
Oh tish, don't be silly. Yes, I ACF50'd far too late... Getting them powder coated now, much cheaper than replacing... Also much better protection... they really should let people know that it is untreated brushed aluminium... I'm doing my best to spread the word. At least the chromed versions are slightly hardier...
Thanks again! :-)
Third set of clocks! terrible condensation again!
Thanks for the great review. These issues and Triumph's handling of them have convinced me to hold off for another year or so till some of the problems have been addressed.
Thank you. I should say that not all T120s are affected by the brake problem.
Now THAT was a great review! I feel like I've finally been let in on the whole truth. The lack of quality control unfortunately brings back old memories which is quite a shame since these new Bonnevilles are otherwise so very appealing. You'd think they'd have learned better from the past.
Great honest review.. I am seriously thinking of buying a T120 next spring but finding it difficult to make my mind up between the Triumph or a HD Sportster 1200.. same bike I actually passed my bike test on years ago.. I keep hearing bad things about Triumphs and it is starting to put me off a bit.. I know the front end is a bit soft so may need to change the springs. But really shocked to hear what you have said about water getting into clocks and headlight unit and the fuel pump leak seems really bad but what is getting me is the lack of interest that Triumph is showing towards its costumers.. I'm hoping that since you made this video that Triumph have sorted all these problems out in the newer T120 machines..
Thanks again for the great review 👍 Ride safe 🏍
Excellent review. I would have enjoyed it more and been able to understand your words better if the background music wouldn’t have been playing throughout the video.
Very good review/ update ,well done and thanks for posting.I am approaching 61 years of age and as a kid I used to buy MCN and it seemed full of pictures and stories about the Bonnie,I think these new ones look fabulous.I would quite like one of these new ones.I worked in the car industry for decades and when it comes to admitting faults manufacturers usually deny everything until forced to admit. £10000 for me is a lot of money.Your review has made think do I want one that much
Great review Stuart! Pretty much consistent with my experience of ownership, apart from the dealer hassles.
They really made a nice job of these bikes and I love mine.
I love mine too mate, but sometimes I hate her too. just waiting for my fourth set of clocks! the recently replaced ones leaked as well!
stuart fillingham
I must have got lucky with mine , having ridden through some serious storms and routinely washing with the hose - which is why I got the T120 Black- wash it like a car and job done.
No leaks yet and up to 6700km but will be keeping an eye on this now I'm aware.
If I want to polish chrome and alloy I still have my Meriden 750 to look after but do like the look of the MY16 T120 with chrome and polished cases.
Yes Triumph do keep telling me I have just been very unlucky with mine, not much comfort, have to take it back for a fourth set of clocks now, new ones leak too!
I wonder if the clocks are all made in the same place?
My bike is assembled in Thailand , as far as I know , but you'd think they would tend to make sub-components in one location given that container shipping is cheap.
But maybe it is a local batch problem and they keep dipping into the 'bad' bin for you to have had such a bad run?
Triumph are pretty mysterious about the innards of these things.
I have read about a few condensation issues on the forums but yours seems to be another thing entirely.
Pretty sure I'd be rightly pissed off after four sets too.
They told me yesterday they have carried out a stock cleans to weed out all the bad stuff. and that they would sort me a new modified unit ASAP. I think your right there has been some sort of mix up!
Love the old girlfriend reference, lol.
Photo314159 lol thank you!
No matter how Hot she is, bad breath is a deal breaker.
I feel the same about my Street Twin, though I did 28 000 km with no trouble whatsoever…
I've got a t120 on order for collection in March, 2023, not long now, I fill my nights in by watching these videos on care and add ons stuart reviews for this model, I had a bmw f800st which was a fantastic bike, a bit clunky on the gear change, but never let me down, totally bulletproof.
I think in life as I get older perfection is only a dream, the t120 looks gorgeous, I'm not perfect, I'm sure with stuarts advice me and the bonnie will be best of friends.
Pretty sure I couldnt live with a donkeypig either. Brilliant review mate! Thanks!
Appreciate the honest review, the wiring loom reminds me of the British Leyland of old
Great videos Stuart, very informative and helpful. I've only recently found them and started to watch them, as it's only in the last week or so that i've started to look at T120 reviews on etc, and am now considering buying one, and parting company with my trusty Bandit 1250S. Despite the few teething problems you've experienced, the T120 certainly seems to be quite an awesome modern classic. I had a Kawasaki W650 retro bike a while back which i really enjoyed, although i found it a bit small/cramped for my 6' tall frame, but the Bonneville seems to have alot more legroom. I wanted to ask you though (and apologies if you've already covered this elsewhere in another video), but what are your views on the practicality and relative robustness of modern 'tubed wheels/tyres' (such as used on the T120 and most other spoked wheel classics of course), in regard to using a bike like the T120 for longer trips/weekends/touring etc.
I have not experienced any problems so far sir! at the end of the day we managed with tubed tyres for decades and although tubeless does have its advantages i dont think tubed tyres should put you off!
Great honest review! Love the Westwood scenery too - all it needs is for the Burgess ice-cream van to be still open for business!
Andrew Tunnicliffe lol your obviously a local man! thanks and thanks for watching!
Stuart Fillingham I used to be local - I grew up in Kirk Ella - but now I live in New Zealand! My parents and brother are still local though.
Andrew Tunnicliffe New Zealand! lovely country!
Am i the only one that thinks that sounding like a freight train when coming to a stop is a positive?
LOL Probably! thanks for watching Chuck!
Thanks so much for the video. I have been looking at the Bonniville and I happy to have seen this. I will still probably still get one but I know what I need to look for
Figured I'd go back and enjoy this review again while I'm waiting for warmer weather and to weather out the pandemic. I'll go polish my T-120 now, reflect, and smile about your review and other things.
8:28 Your badge is off center and my OCD is going nuts. This is unacceptable from the factory. I'm sorry to hear about your mishaps with the bike. Got the 2018 Bobber (non-Black) and I absolutely love it. Doesn't have any of the issues this bonnie has had. Glad you picked you one up! Been digging your Motone updates!
Great video! We here at VikingBags really support your content! Keep up the good work!
Awesome! Thank you!
I love the comparison you’ve made in between your ex girlfriend and the Bonnie....A fantastic resume
The girlfriend analogy is spot on! haha
Hi Stuart. Thank you for your review. As a direct result of watching many of your videos I have today ordered a brand new t120 in gloss black, just like yours. I've also ordered the cruise control as I fully agree with your comments about this being a great safety feature. Will be picking up my new bike in June 2018 and will be watching your video again on detailing so I can protect it from day one. Thank you again for all of your videos I have just subscribed so I can watch any new ones that you post. Nick
Thanks for your subscrition Nick, and congratulations on your new ride!
Thanks for a great review. Thinking of buying 2017 T120, or the Thruxton R. Comfort wise, I'm leaning towards the T120.
What an excellent choice Sir!
Webbed feet and halitosis …. Lmao, Hope your still enjoying the bike. I watched this because I wanted to get to the bottom of the issues around some of the earlier Bonnies and I’d like to say thanks for the honest review. I wonder if most if not all of the issues have now been engineered out in the newer editions!
These intrigue me. I have a 2010 bought new and I've done some work to it. The motor is opened up and running as it should. Your review of the new engine reminds me of my impressions of the old lump in stock form. Anyway, they did a fantastic job with the looks of the new liquid cooled twin. It's definitely classic looking. Good honest review. I'll note that I have had only one issue with my last generation Bonnie: weeping oil from a couple gaskets. It's not terrible and owning several old machines, it's no big deal at all, but it's something you notice on a new machine.
Thanks! I've picked up all your reviews on the 2016 T120. Loving the clarity, thoroughness and honesty. I've even bought a Lomo dry bag based on one of your other reviews. Plan to exchange my Sprint ST 1050 for the T120 at the end of this year. Hoping Triumph address the issues you raise. But will be getting one regardless. Keep up the good work. Further updates welcome.
Hi Chris nice to hear your planning on the T120 you will love it! Thanks for watching!
This review: AMAZING. I was looking at one today to trade up from my Harley 883. I lost it at 9:27. Epic comparison.
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Just upgraded to a 2018 T120. Traded in the T214. Here's to halitosis!
Thanks for posting this review. Great job!
Good honest review!
If Triumph never fully sort their wiring problem or you aren't happy with their fix, keep aircraft fuel tank sealant in mind. The stuff may be the best sealant/formable gasket material/potting compound ever and lasts decades on jet fighters and nearly every other aircraft.
Aircraft Spruce in CONUS stock it and I've no doubt aviation suppliers in the UK can get it for you. Every mechanic should buy a kit to play with. It's indifferent to gasoline, alcohol, diesel, jet fuel, hydraulic fluid, and has excellent wetting. I've also used it to pot old-style Amphenol plugs and it's better than potting compound. It seals ancient vertically split motorcycle crankcases too.
I shall have to have a look for it! thank you very much sir!
The reliability compared with other bikes is pretty good and I’d say that Triumph’s quality control gets better and better. This review is now five years old so this was an early production bike - hopefully the issues have been ironed out on later models.
No they haven't! there have been numerous safety recalls and they still don't seem to be able to sort out the self destruct mechanism on their gearboxes!
@@stuartfillingham hope mine is ok!
@@stuartfillingham That is very concerning. Could you point me to some statistics or maybe a site where this is covered in detail? I am going to the dealer today to look and try my best not to buy one.
Nicely comprehensive! I can't believe that this is a long term review though, it's far too clean!! ;-)
Thanks for putting this together and taking the time on production...
TBH!
Thank you Sir! and thanks for taking the time to watch. Not sure I should admit it in public, but I do take her in the bath with me every day and give her a good scrub whether she needs it or not! its a bugger getting her up the stairs but well worth the effort!
Very well worth the effort! Just be careful with the jet wash attachment in any flanges... (Sorry, couldn't resist....)
You're welcome. As I said, nicely edited and thought through.
Great bike. I would love to get one for me, owning a Retro bike is one of my dreams but these bikes cost a lot in our country.
Love the honest review and old girlfriend analogy!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Your very welcome, thanks for watching!
genuinely enjoyed this video and man you dropped some real wisdom by comparing the bike with the old girlfriend!! appreciate this very honest and insightful review.
I'm glad you liked it sir! thanks for watching.
Hi Stuart, what an absolutely brilliant video and owners review of the T120. As you say nothing is perfect and when we spend big chunks of money we expect to be heard, rather than waved away contemptuously. I loved my T100 and your review makes me wonder about having a T120. The comparison with the girlfriend was btw inspired !!!!
David Jebson thanks for your kind words David. all the reviews I've seen about triumph were just about how fantastic it is (which it is) and the problems associated with just hushed up! I just thought it was time for a more balanced review! triumph do need to put more time and effort into their customer care then they are currently doing and I hoped to just highlight that to anyone thinking of buying one.
We all appreciate your honesty.
Thank you Teresa!
Thank you for sharing. It helped me greatly in my decision to buy a T120. Delivery is next Monday, I can't wait !
Thanks Theo! and congratulations!
Thanks for an excellent review, wish more were as down to earth!
Thank you sir!
I would love one of these but as I ride all year round to commute I fear the UK winters roads would destroy it :(
Richard Seekins I have to agree with you on that one. especially where the alloy engine cases are concerned. the all black version my be a viable option though!
I did consider the Black one but Triumph didn't have any for six months. I ended up with A Tiger XCX that seems to deal with the bad weather ok. I may compromise and buy a T100 for summer use :) Cheers for the reply :)
A fair review. I'm looking forward to seeing what Triumph can deliver for cruiser riders. The Bobber is a nice start but isn't a particularly practical motorcycle.
my thoughts exactly. no pillion seat and nowhere to attach luggage, also a very limited fuel range make it no more than a coffee shop bike! which is a shame,
nice video stuart! i got my t120 since mid 2016, and i guess i have to do a video review of my bonnie soon. I still think i made the right decision getting the T120 and not an other biker. still have so much love for it.
I test rode one last week, along with the speed master..I've watched all of your reviews!
Great stuff thank you.
I have a serious concern here in Arizona, USA. It was 80F and oh my, the heat would be unbearable on a hotter day if stuck in traffic due to the fan kicking all that heat to your knees. As a daily commute on my Trophy SE, it too suffers from a high level of heat on my left foot. I'm going to be commuting on my trusty 09 Speed Triple yet again this year.
I loved the ride of this Bonneville though, smooth, compliant and plenty of power. Thanks again for your reviews!!
Your welcome sir, Thanks for watching!
good review. i've had mine for 12,000 miles now, never picked up the wheel squeak but i am in a hot dry climate. only problem ive had is when it gets around 35+ celcius outside, the idle can drop very low and on three occassions it cut out on me while sat at lights.
Otherwise love my t120.
Hmm never encounter temperature like that here in the UK, but it doesn't surprise me that it would cut out sometimes. re brake squeal your a lucky man! its horrible. having said that mine has not done it for some time, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
Great review - wonderfully honest. This model makes me long for the old Speed Twin we had 40 years ago, but I'd like a quiet front brake! I'm on a Speedmaster and besides only having 5 short gears, whines like a little girl when I tap off.... time for new pipes? Thanks!
This winter has been a bitch, cheer up, spring will eventually show it's face. I like your candid assessment. I was a long-time BMW rider as well, but I do not regret switching to a Triumph. My riding needs changed much like yours (we've been riding about the same number of years and I suspect we are similar ages).
Thanks for the great review! There are a lot of professional reviews that just read the manual and call it all good after a few hours of perfect weather riding at the launch event. Surprisingly difficult to get detailed information short of trolling model specific forums, so I appreciate it.
Yes I feel the same first Impressions don't really give you the full picture.
Thanks for watching and for your kind comment,
I have a 2017 T120 and am nothing but impressed. No front brake squeal and no water in the instruments, just a sweet bike.
I want a Bonneville with Honda build quality and reliability, haha
The closest you will find is a Honda CB1100 EX. Not exactly the same, but squint just a little and you can see how many lines they share.
honda service interval ?.
The closest is highness cb350
Dear Triumph, please listen and take customers complaints and comments seriously as there is a lot of competition out there that do, don't make the same mistakes as your Meriden cousin's, yours faithfully loyal but annoyed Triumph owners.
Based on this video i have decided to buy a ducati scrambler, thank you so much for have oppened my eyes!
Ducati is awesome.. fyi I have had 4 Ducati bikes and 3 triumphs...
Love both
Yeah, really enjoyed this review mate, very entertaining, what led me here was my Vespa of all things!
It had some warranty work carried out on it by the dealers on Blackburn, who are also Triumph dealers, I can’t remember being so knocked out by the look of a bike since I was a teenager looking at the original 350 lcs! Just so beautiful, Definitely my next big bike I reckon, cheers
Good review. Ill look forward to the next.
Nice job, So she is very slightly imperfect. Such is life. Refreshingly honest review. Sometimes flaws are characteristics, not necessarily problems. Many thanks
Your very welcome Frank, thanks for watching. and I have to say she has got better with age!
In the late sixties the Triumph was all the rage , one good looking piece of machinery it was. The BSA looked old and sort of dull . The Enfield a bit rare on our shores . What was evident at the time the Bonnie was faster but for ever in the darn shops while the BSA was chugging along like a proverbial ugly tractor . I still despise the Bonnie for looking so good and being not up to parr mechanically ,my humble opinion.
Great Review. Had my T120 a month . Only got 300 miles on it as the squeak when low speed braking is driving me mental . Feel like I'm on a rusty BMX. Was gonna get it looked at on the first service but worried it's a permanent feature .
Could it me just new brakes settling in (I hope)
Hmm I'm afraid its probably permanent, have a look at the review update ive posted. all we can do is keep kicking up a fuss about it. Triumph shrug it off as being nothing serious, but then they have got our money now and they don't have to listen to it every day! you can see the update here. th-cam.com/video/Keo_ku5L86s/w-d-xo.html
Just watched this again. Great video.
I’m from the U.S. and being from the former colony’s I for one love your videos. I’m considering purchasing a new bike and since I’ve not ridden in 25 years I must say I’m a little intimidated. I’m 6’0’ and 230lbs. When I see a picture of myself on a 2017 t120, I look too big for it. Would you offer your opinion on which bike would be a good fit for me? I’m also considering a Speedmaster 1200, and maybe even a storm. I realize the ergonomics of these 3 bikes àre considerably different. 90% of the time, it will be commuting; then the other 10% will be interstate riding with my better half. I realize I’m asking a difficult question but I cannot seem to get an honest, satisfying answer from the salespersons at my local dealers, but I highly value your opinion on the subject. Thank you!
Right Jon. Honest opinion! Dont worry about what you look like on a bike as long as it feels comfortable to ride. Dont think about how other people view you when your on it. Just enjoy how the bike makes you feel When your riding it. Because at the end of the day thats what bikes are all about! The bonnie can do all that you require and so can the speedmaster. Just go for the one you love the most!
Thank you for the quick response. It’s not so much that I’m afraid of what I look like. It’s will the bike handle me and a passenger. I’m also considering the triumph thunderbird commander just to accommodate my wife. But I prefer the standard riding position and I believe the Bonneville will be s better commuter. She will only be with me 10% of the time but I do want her to be confident. Thanks again!
Just found this review as I love the look of the Bonnie. Great review Stuart, thanks for doing such an excellent job and for pointing out the good points and the not so good. Listening to you, I think I will have to get my finger out and get one this year!
your welcome sir, thanks for watching!
Thanks for your honest review. I am test riding the t120 in the morning and I will listen for the freight train noise when I come to a stop sign. I love the looks of this bike and I hope I am not disappointed with the test ride. I am from Atlanta and your accent is awesome! Keep up the good reviews.
Aye by gum lad what accent is thee on about! lol the T120 is a fantastic bike you will instantly be smitten! Have a great ride mate and thanks for watching!
Stuart another great video thank you for taking the time to do this I wonder if you’ve got an update on the brakes and the water ingress into the clocks and headlamp thank you
I like the "makes you feel good to have it in your garage" comment. Ive had a bike or two that I didnt feel good about posessing hence they got moved on. Great review, cheers.
As a new owner, one month tomorrow well worth watching and listening to Good pictures of Beverley and the Westwood,, Dave Swinemoor Lane
Ah a local man, Thanks for watching Dave and thanks for your comment
I have the same issues with Triumph. My 2001 speed triple had a couple recalls including leaking plastic fuel line connectors. I replaced them with metal at my own expense but when I wrote them about paying me back they never responded. I'm sure they do this to many owners so they will get discouraged and go away. I love my bike and plan to buy another someday Despite the poor customer service. That's how much I Love Triumph motorcycles.😍🤩
Hi Martin a common story that only seems to come from Triumph owners! basically once they have your money it would appear you pretty much on your own! Thank you for watching.
I've seen many of your reviews, but I really enjoyed this one... Thank You Stuart!
I would not buy one. I cannot tolerate poor dealer service in the way that you experienced.
Nicely done. It was akin to ten minutes of a new chapter of Zen and the art of Motorcycles.
The motorcycle riding world needs more philosopher poets.
Thank you Sir !
thats a great book! read it in '78 never had a cb 250 but i spent alot of decent time on a cd175(bout 1980-81) when i was a lad
Yet again Stu, a good honest review… I,m in two minds between the Bonneville T120 and the new Super Meteor Thanks to your review I need to check out the 2018 on Bonneville 120 to see if reviews show these problems have been sorted…
I,m hoping you will do a Super Meteor 650 review soon 👍👍🙏🙏🤞
Sounds like you've got a really crap Triumph Dealership there. I'm 61 yrs and been with bikes since I was 16 yrs, still riding today. (thankfully) I was in the Motorcycle Trade for many years, spannering, working on Meriden Triumphs, Kawasakis, Hondas, Suzukis etc... The customer was always looked after, even the Pain in the Arse ones, because without customers the businesses would have folded. I was looking at the new T120 in the local Triumph showroom only last night. I am wary of modern dealerships and normally buy privately but servicing at home, with all the new electronics, means having to trust a dealer to be honest and helpful. Thanks for an honest review. On a lighter note, my first wife could have been a model too and I likened her to an E type Jag. Lovely to look at, expensive to run and maintain and a pain in the arse when things went wrong ! What are we like ? Mac. Kent
Stu..
How are you getting on with your T120 re the gearing, the noisy brakes and the water retention issues around the clocks and headlights?
Close to buying one to go alongside my Z900RS..
Just a bit concerned these issues have not been addressed..
As you say its embarrassing when get the attention of the whole area when you stop.
Would take me back my first car at 18yrs old...that was no stealth machine either..😁.
Any information regarding the current status of your 'Bonny' would help..
Thanks for whatever you can tell me..
John.
Just put a down payment on one.
Hope to get it in 2 weeks. I'll let you know if it exhibits the problem.
Thank you Nelson. if anything, you should only encounter the brake squeal, the rest should have been sorted now!
Well done.
G8 report.
Much appreciated.
Thank you.
Another very brilliant entertaining video, I love the ex-girlfriend example
its absolutely disgusting how bad i want one of these X.X
Hi
Have you found a a paddock stand which would support your T120 ? I have a T100 black and trying to read through all the twaddle online, I no longer no what anything is! You always talk sense, can you give any advise?
Good review sir. I enjoyed the somewhat familiar scenery: I live in Hornsea.
I've been thinking of buying the T100, which has many parts in common with the T120, so I am a little concerned about the attitude of the dealership towards your concerns. The dealership I was considering is the one in a large city to the north of Beverley.
I was also looking at the BMW F700GS. Maybe I'll plump for that one as it's been tried and tested.
I ditched the dealership I originally bought the bike from, and switched to A1 Moto at York who so far have been way better! They were not the dealership I was referring to, and to be honest the main problems I had related to a particular salesman!
The BMW F700 is ok, I did own one a few years ago but to be honest BMW quality is not particularly good it has slipped a lot over the last 10 years! As with Triumph, the words "premium brand" refer more to their opinion of themselves than the quality of their products
Interesting points I appreciate the honesty. Some people don't want to admit the flaws of a new model because they've spent too much money on it. Now that 2018 models are on sale I wonder if those have any changes. The brake calipers for the price of the bike should be Brembo, even a low end Brembo. I'll be back working at a Triumph dealer now so I can't wait to get some test rides in! Not sure if I'll buy one, but I do have a strong affinity for the brand. Cheers.
your welcome sir thanks for watching and yes your right I have received a lot of stick from owners who are not quite ready to admit the flaws on this bike. it is what it is and customising it to correct those flaws is the fun part!
Squealing brakes - sometimes it's a frame/fork harmonics thing that's unfortunately baked into the geometry. Very hard thing to track down and fix.
Excellent review. Thank you. I was thinking about getting one, not so much now.
Nice honest review. I wish others would follow your lead. Get your act together Triumph. The dealership deaf ear doesn’t surprise me. Car dealerships are similar.
Thank you for the more detailed information about the bike, but I would like to ask about your final opinion about buying this bike. Actually I am from India, when we are comparing to royal bullet this is a perfect bike .
Well Shilesh i still have her and i have no plans to part with her, so my advice is if you desire such a bike get one!
Worthwhile watching, but there’s got to be a standard for “long term”. This isn’t necessarily a criticism of this review, but most “long term” reviews that barely reach the break in period. That said, when Triumph’s quality controls reaches the Japanese standards, I’ll seriously consider buying one.
Quite an entertaining review. Give 'em this much, @ least these still have the same header pipe length differential as the early Bonnevilles, in order to route round the primary casing, which in return attested to their unique sound signature. What should have been removed is that ugly ass fin seam along the bottom of the gas tank. Lost as well on these newer bikes is the see through beauty of an open air engine jugs, much like that of a light weight aircraft power plant. Faking those unneeded cylinder fins & carb. structures... Well, that ain't really legal neither... @ least in the mind of the purist vintage owner. Hell, might be i'm just a biased 68 Trophy Sports owner, that's all. Oh yeah, dug the girlfriend comparison the most! -gilpin 22017
LOL thank you for the comment Sir, it is much appreciated! The header pipes are not all they seem though, they are I'm afraid just a decorative shroud which hides a multitude of sins, created by the latest emission regulations!
A Brit bike with problems....Some things never change.I might consider a Royal Enfield now...
Sorry Stu.
I've just remembered you mentioned you can't physically reply to everyone...
No worries.. 👍
excellent video..but you screwed up somewhere because, I find myself wanting to ride your x girl friend, more than the T120.?.do you believe her to be the T1000.....?
Then you need counselling for low self esteem issues sir, she was a real swamp donkey last time I saw her!
Lol thanks for your comment!
A great review. I live in Qatar and the local dealer is giving me a great trade in on my 2015 Bonnie 865 Newchurch. I now know the right questions to ask before committing to the trade up. I love the girlfriend analogy, and the Newchurch to me is just the same. I don't want to let a near perfect girlfriend go without being absolutely clear in my mind that the next girlfriend will be just as good if not better. Thanks the for video.
just seen the best review.From a Hull lad "say it as it is it," get's me into all sorts of **** but who cares.Like the bike better than my old 79 bonnie.
Keep safe
kind regards
Thank you Ian! Same to you Matey!
Spot on review and love the comparison to your former girlfriend!
Lol Thank you.
Mate you have a way with words !!! Honest and great review. By the way do you still see your ex ?? LOL
Roger Morello no! its a strange thing but none of my exes will speak to me any more!
hahahahaha
Maybe it wasn't her that had hallitosis....
The brake noise is probably to hard a compound of the brake pads themselves. They don't mate well with the steel of the rotors and it comes out like finger nails across a chalk board.
I think you maybe right sir, or the alloy used in the discs is way too hard!