Bought my T100 new in 2020.....in my 4th year now.....wont ever part with it.....why would I its perfect. I love riding a naked bike....wind in my face.....and it stops me being tempted to ride at silly speeds. I have modded my bike in a few subtle ways to make it look even more old school. I regularly get 83mpg for the journey on my run down the A49 from the Widnes area in Cheshire to the Raven bikers cafes on a Thursday eve (medway)....50 60mph.....amazing. Great to see your enjoying your Bonnie so much as well BP. From Nick a 71 year old codger.
Hi Nick, great story. I have had a dew of the 865 engines - fuel injected, and they were great. Never let me down. I had 2 whn I lived in Qatar - loved the cream and red Newchurch. Looked so cool. 👍
I got myself a brand new (well, actually a 23-model, but it had sat unused at the dealers exhibit, so virtually new but unused) Bonneville T-120 in the middle of August. Finally managed to pass the test and get the bike-license just under 4 weeks ago, and have put nearly 1500km on it in the last few weeks. Maybe a bit ambitious as a first bike, but I have absolutely no regrets. Looking at it you'd think it may be a case of style over substance, but the simple truth is that the T120 deliver both in spades! It's is wonderfully easy and comfortable to ride, perfect for a calm relaxing Sunday cruise, but still goes like a bat out of Hell if my inner 12-year-old takes over and the going gets a bit frisky! It's pretty much a n excellent Jack-of-all-trades and a purebred Ace when it comes to looks!
Bought a new T120 in May.Coming from a Harley Road Glide which I'd had for 6years.The Triumph is a great bike and at 67 just what I need nowadays.A fun bike to ride and hopefully I'll be off to Europe on it next year.
Really glad that you got a T120 Stephen. They are a wonderful bike and I get so much fun out of mine. It just gets better and better. I'll see you in Europe next year.😆👍
I knew this day would come Scott - especially after my first ride of the T120 over in Tenerife. It's a wonderful all rounder bike and can do just about everything you would want, within reason 😆
Hi Richard. August 2023 I bought a 2020 Tiger 900 and was really interested to hear your thoughts about it. The fact you had one made me feel more confident about my purchase. To my surprise & total horror, the next time I tuned into your channel there you were introducing the T120, disaster. For many of the reasons you mentioned, I fell out of love with the Tiger (I did have a 1050 a couple of bikes ago). A skills day at Thruxton decided it for me as around there the 900 was just no fun. But it is a fantastic bike, sooooo smoooth. The previous year I had done it on a Street Twin & was buzzing. I decided a Speed Twin was the next bike for me, but I couldn't find one I could afford. So, yes, you've guessed it, August 2024 I purchased a 2016 T120, only 6k miles & is like new. Again like you, my only regret is I didn't buy one earlier. Enjoy!
Wow, I am now an influencer. You made a great choice on the Tiger 900. It is a great bike but for me, it was getting a little too big and being one of three bikes (and the bigest), I tended towards the other bikes of the time. The only reason was ease of removing from the garage etc. That said, when the ride was long, the Tiger would come out. Maybe I am getting old but the thought of bringing the bike out of the garage always took a deep breath. I don't want to drop it whilst I man handle such a great machine out of the garage. I needed something that could tour but where i could literally jump on the bike and confidently roll it out of the garage and onto the road. Having hired a T120 in Tenerife a couploe of years ago, I knew it was a great ride. So, of course, a few months ago, took the plunge and traded in the Tiger. I do miss the Tiger but, the T120 does exactly what the Tiger did for me. It tours and it is a great city bike and flies on the country roads. And, it is more economical that the Tiger but only a little more. The T120 brings some great attention as well. Just passers by when parked up on a main street. I feel this bike can see me through for a good few years. To get something else as a replacement would be difficult based on my needs. I am really pleased that your T120 meets your needs, KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) is the approach to many things in my life and the T120 falls right into that mindset 😆
I have a 2022 T120, when I bought it I was 46 years young & all the lads were saying your too young for one of them, what do you want that for etc etc. But I loved the retro looks and I wanted it for days out with the wife. And as her late dad used to own a Bonnie in the 80’s. She had some attachment to the triumphs. Well I love it, and it was 100 percent the correct purchase. It’s powerful and fast enough that I can go for solo rides with my mates on sports bikes and can quite happily keep up or even leave them for dust at times. But more importantly it’s comfortable for two up riding and the torque is great for two up riding when going up the steep hills we have here in north wales. she loves it with the optional back rest fitted and feels secure and locked in. You can load it up with bags if required for days away or beach days etc. It’s just an overall great machine that does everything well. And it also looks fantastic.
Never too young for a Bonnie - bought my first one in 2004 aged 33. The looks are timeless and they are the ‘standard’ for what the general public thinks a good motorbike should look like (been stopped loads of times by people just wanting to talk and admire my Bonnie). I had to get rid of my 2004 earlier this year and no surprise replaced it with a 2020 T100. Absolutely love them - do anything bikes and look gorgeous even when standing parked up.
I have a 2023 T120 Black. I agree that it is a keeper. I think because it is a contemporary classic, it will never go out of style. It feels very well made and simple - jump on and ride. For me, the shortcoming is that without a windshield or fairing, high speeds (75 mph +) on the highway for long periods is unnerving and tiresome. I plan to add a cruiser to my garage. Looking at a HD Street Glide but I don’t think I can part with my T120.
It's a great bike and easy to ride and has tons of power. You're right about the screen, and the cost of a screen is astronomical. However, these are the times that we're live in. Well done on getting a great bike.👍
Great video and insight. Just over 3 weeks old now on a motorbike. Started off with a V100 Mandello S. but need a Triumph 120 in my life. Putting a deposit for a T120 Icon edition.
Hi Wilfred, wow an icon edition. That is fantastic. If you get a chance when he gets delivered, please do send a photograph over so I can show the rest of the guys what you've gone and bought. I know they'll love it.❤
I just came across this video of yours. Like you, I used to have a Tiger 900 GT (pro version), excellent bike but a bit too fast and complex for me. I’m 65 and I’ve been riding bikes all my life. A couple of weeks ago I visited my local Triumph dealer and traded my Tiger 900 for a brand new T120. I’ve only had it for a few days but I’m already very satisfied for my purchase and I don’t think I will regret it! I live in the South of Spain, and the Bonneville is a perfect fit for our roads and climate here! Excellent video!
Hi Jaya, a great choice of bike. I think the T120 is perfect for southern spain 👍. I do miss the Tiger but, I reaslly think the T120 was the right move, for me certainly 👍. I think you will fall in love - again 😆
Bought my T100 18 years ago and still love her to bits. Much improved after years of tinkering. Also bought a Speed Twin 900 in 2022 which was a revelation in terms of ease of riding which suits my smaller than normal height and weight.
Bought my green & cream T120 new in 2018 after many years on sport and big touring bikes done a few mods on bike and still got it after 6 years it’s a keeper
Love my 2017 T120 Black... I purchased used and have put 10k miles on it in the last year... Bought a Triumph Trident last week so I can put less miles on my cherished Bonnie.... cheers.
Funny to hear you guys speaking about a motorcycle as „she” 😉 She’s 16 week old, I bought her, she makes me smile, quite nice personalisation of a peace of machine 😊
For example, in my language (slovak) the words for things can have a gender, so some things are as females , some things are males and some things are neutral. And motorcycle is "She". For example car is "it", bicycle is "He" and ship is also "She".
Spot on , I've had 6 bikes in the last 10 years from Tigers x 3 ,FJR1300 , Smaller BMW, I got my T120 18 months ago, I smile every time I ride it , she is a bit of a garage queen but she's mine 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm just hunting around utube for T120 content. I am looking at a T120 for me and the misses to ride on. The current ride is a street triple. Just subscribed good video.
Thanks for the subscription Paul, much appreciated. Nothing fine other than a street triple, a great machine however I do see your wanting of a T1 20 when it comes to taking the Mrs on the bike. Go test one at the Triumph dealership and I'm sure that you'll be happy. For me, the T120 is a keeper.
Very interesting. I must admit to never having been "transient" with my bikes, my Norge I had for 11 years before being written off. I loved it and as you say, for the riding I was doing, it was a joy. I never thought I'd like the T120, a naked and chain driven bike. I tried one at the behest of a friend and was blown away, AND my riding needs have changed, and whilst there are a couple of other machines I would love.....the T120 is staying............I have had it 4 years now, with no desire to change it.
Exactly our regret too Richard. Many (perhaps too many) bikes have come and gone over recent years as we've tried to hit the "sweet spot". We first test rode the T120 back in 2016. Finally, bought our 2017 model a few weeks ago and loved it. Maybe we should have had much earlier 😊
I rode a t120 a little over a year ago. I was in the market for a sporty commuter but test rode one because I liked the way it looked. I thought it was a brilliant bike, but I was coming off of a Road King and it was still a little more sluggish to turn in than what I thought I wanted. I ended up with a Tiger Sport 660 and it has less than 3000 miles on it in over a year. Now I'm looking to sell it and get a t120. I thought I wanted to be a fast boy... I guess not, huh?
Hi Josh, trust me, on the T120, you can still be the fast boy 😆. The torque on the T120 is enough to restart a dead planet 😆. Go for a T120, you are going to love owning one and like most, and assuming you are going to ride it and not leave it in the garage, you will probably find it is a keeper ❤
I have heatd people say that newer Triumph twins don't compare with the old ones ... maybe that's because the old ones needed a topend rebuild every 30k miles - at least they did they way we used to ride them back in the seventies before all these speed cameras !
@@bankruptpensioner I think you miss-understood my comment - I am not saying the older Triumphs are better at all, but I do agree that the world has turned and things aren't how they used to be - thank heavens !
I recently gave some thought to off loading my GoldStar and took a Honda NC750X DCT out on a demo ride. The bike was fantastic and I loved it so what stopped me trading it in. Firstly its because they offered me £2600 on my bike, with only 675 miles on the clock, that cost me £6800 18 months ago. Secondly its because although the seat height is acceptable once your aboard actually getting on and off it was hard work, i ended up bruising the inside of my right leg and pulling a muscle. I loved the bike but the bike didn't love me.
Residuals are really poor at the moment aren't they? 😢. We also have a Royal Enfield Classic 350. It's only 18 months old but the trade-in price is ridiculous 😬. So, we're keeping "Ernie" too and for the first time, have become a two bike family 😊. For commuting, lanes exploring and local bimbles the Classic 350 is King. For everything else (especially two-up) it's the T120 😊
I thought long and hard about the Triumph T100 and T120 but the long stroke air cooled 360 crank and the overall looks of the W800 won me over. I had a hard time finding one in stock near me but when I did I jumped on it and have no regrets. I like the Bonneville but I don't find the sound of the exhaust from a 270 degree crank to be as authentic or as pleasant as the 360 degree crank on the W800. I also wanted a basic bike with true air cooling, long stroke engine with a low and wide torque range just like the original British bikes. I also have a 1968 Norton Commando that I am renovating. Cheers
Personally Bob, I see no real reason to have a 270 crank. Certainly when it comes to normal riding. A 360 is much more balanced and it's been used for years therefore it is a known technical thing. The tech chaps love to give us stuff that is not needed (really) and just inflates prices I guess 👍
I owned a Commando 850 and a T140V in the 70's. Great bikes but never thought about 360 cranks. I now own a 2002 W650 and 2019 Speed Twin 1200 and the 360/270 crank still makes no difference. The modern Triumph 1200 is smooth, has great low down torque, is characterful and sounds great even with the stock exhaust. It really is a huge improvement over the older parallel twins.😊
@@splodge57 Yes. All new twins regardless of crank angle are miles ahead of the old bikes of the 60s and 70s. Nothing wrong with a 270 degree crank. I just prefer the sound of a 360 degree engine. The difference is slight and may not be noticed by some but the 270 degree engines sound a little more like a V twin to my ears. There are other factors that helped me decide on a W800. Less complicated air cooling with no water pump, cable operated throttle, no radiator or coolant changes to worry about, no traction control and no complicated rider modes. Air cooling limits the overall power that can safely be produced but i don't need the extra power. Dealer network and parts availability were also a concern. All in all I made the right decision for me. Your wants and needs may be different than mine. To each his own. Enjoy what ever machine tickles your fancy. They are all great bikes.
Like I said I have a W650, a great bike. I've done 35,000 miles on it and it's a keeper. I'm just not bothered about this 360 is better than 270 debate.😂 Enjoy your W800.
@@bankruptpensioner The firing order of a 360 degree twin is perfectly even but the fact that the pistons are rising and falling together at the same time makes them more difficult and expensive to balance out vibrations. A 270 degree crank is a bit of a compromise but they are easier to smooth out and sound more like a V-twin. There are reasons why most manufacturers have adopted the 270 crank.
I’ve got one. I bought it new. Never ridden one or heard one run either. I got it from Manchester triumph. The first time I heard it run was just before they wheeled it out of the showroom. I had my photo taken with it outside the building. Then rode it back home. After about a mile, I realised that I had a wonderful motorbike.
Great bikes. I have a Speed Twin 1200, love the engine, plenty of torque and character. I think all the Bonneville range look good, well made with great attention to detail.
Hey Splodge, you are right, this 1200 engine is perfect. In fact, it's that good, if I had a boat, I would stick this engine in it 😆 - not that I know anything about boats 😆. The build quality of the T120 is so good and if one looks after it, it should look like new for a very long time 👍
i swapped a speed triple for a T120 this summer. really pleased i did. it suits the back roads i ride, decent in town, capable and comfortable on long journeys. it gets loads of attention if you dont mind that sort of thing. i ride a lot, but lucky to have a couple of other bikes so i can baby the bonneville a bit. i'll definitely spare it the winter and use my 'africa twin in the bad weather
I've given up selling bikes. Quite the opposite in fact, we've got eight scattered around the place now. I'm very happy with this although it's not without its own problems. They are currently all running and road legal. It's possible one may be sold, if the market ever picks up, and one may be replaced but other than that I'm done buying and selling. Unless I get the six numbers up one day, obviously.. In which case I will give Jay Leno a run for his money. Oh and I would quite like an old 60s Triumph... so maybe one more to add.. N+1 and all that...
I had 2 T100’s. Great machines. Regret selling. I’ve had the 1200 XE scrambler which was massive in height even with my 6’1” height. Currently have the 2023 Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer which is an amazing machine but too high for the wife on pillon. Considering going to a T120.
Hi Scotty, I've had a couple of the 865's and they were great. Good test ride a t120. I think you'll like it, it's a very classic ride with loads of power. And I think your missus will like it as well as he's easy to get on.👍
A great question - and that is exactly what I did, however, at the time, i was not 100% fit. However, really depends on what you would want to do with the T120. I like long tours - UK and across Europe. I swapped to the T120 from the Tiger 900. Was concerned about the T120 for long rides and its comfort. So, put a cheap screen on the T120 and set off for Austria. The T120 was super comfy just like the Tiger. So.....now, with the T120, I have super comfort, and super style 👍. That said, I do miss the Tiger now my health issues have been addressed / controlled 😆.Does this help?
I also have a T120 and even put Ohlins suspensions front and rear. Heated grips, USB charge, comfort seat. The only bike I would consider trading it in is... BWM R1250R :)
hi, is there much difference between the years of manufacture? i see bargains on t120s registered in 2016/2017 with low mileage was just wondering if significant changes occurred later in production making these bikes drop value or something?
Hi, thanks for the comment and a really good question. There's no difference really from a 2017 to a modern version of the T120. The modern version will have cruise control and things like that, but ultimately they're the same bike. The secondhand value of a 2017 version, with probably low mileage, makes it a worthwhile purchase. The engines are bombproof and as long as you've got a good service history, I wouldn't think twice about buying one that was 6 or 7 years old.. I've seen them on marketplace starting around £5500, maybe a little more with less than 8000 miles on the clock. And due to the nature of the bank and the nature of the person that would be buying it, you can usually guarantee that they are well looked after. Hope this helps.👍
@@bankruptpensioner thanks very much for your reply, very helpful :) my biking journey begins on sunday with the cbt and then DAS next month. Sounds like I can get one of these with confidence, can't wait! All the best and I look forward to watching more of your content :)
@@bankruptpensioner very poorly unfortunately, all the classic beginner mistakes - poor clutch control, too rigid on the bike and ultimately got asked to go home before the group went on the road test. a very disheartening experience but im going back on saturday for another try. didnt help i was in a class with 3 teenage motorcrossers! thanks for asking :)
Hi David, it was an aftermarket product and I just cannot find one to show you. Whilst it performed really well, the metal on it was a bit monkey. So, look up this one from triumph. Got to be the way forward but it is overpriced: A9708304
The video title really caught my attention! 😅 An old colleague of mine has a 2017 T120 Black for sale, but I do love my GS, and the garage is already quite full.☺
Let's be clear, motorcycle owners always defy the laws of physics 😆, there is always room for another bike 😆. It's just persuding the missus - now that is quantum physics - 😆
I bought a new T120 in 2017 and had it five years but straight away I knew I should have gone for a Thruxton R. So in 2019 I bought a Thruxton R too but then had two triumphs. I have other bikes too but after getting the Thruxton I found the T120 never got used much so I traded that in for a Panigale V2 in 2022 but I still have my Thruxton. The T120 was beautiful and the quality was brilliant but it was just too much like a cruiser bike on the road. I prefer the sporty Thruxton.
Great engine on the t 120 👍 like you I had a tiger gt pro , great bike but I never could be bothered to ride it ! I bought it for 10 percent of my riding ! The T 120 looks so Cool , Enjoy .
It's amazing Paul how many riders have moved from the Tiger (a great bike) to the T120. Seems very strange, in a positive way, how many are doing this 👍
I owned my first bike for 10 years. After buying my next motorcycle (Harley Sportster), I still have it 25 years later. So I am sure the T120 will be here to stay when I buy her in April.
OMG, next April - that feels such a long time 😆. For you, it must be like when you book a vacation in the future and have all the time to look forward to the event. Great stuff. I assume you have had a test ride? What did you think?
@@bankruptpensioner I have not test ridden one. But that's ok with me. I know what it has and what it can do. I bought my Sportster the same way with no regrets.
I agree that it is one of the best all-round bikes you could ever own and it is beautiful looking. Were I filthy rich I would have kept mine but alas that is not the case and that leads me on to the one caveat that I would add to your comments. For solo touring the T120 is brilliant and I would have no issue travelling on it solo anywhere. The problem for me is that it is, physically, quite a small bike and it was never going to work for us as a two-up tourer which is why I bought the Thunderbird. I don't regret the decision but in the perfect world I would have kept the Bonneville.
Hey Grumpy, thanks for the comment. Wow, the thunderbird. What a great bike. Is it the 16 or 1700? I had a 1700 when living in Qatar and brought it back to the UK in 2020. What a machine, but alas, I had to sell her. I do understand your thoughts for touring on the T120. Yes, great for one but more a struggle with two. It is a small(er) bike for sure. I am going to have to do a test on a few days away with the T120 with a pillion maybe - we shall see who is brave enough to come with me 😆
@@bankruptpensioner Mine is the 1600 with the Red Phantom Haze paint and I am loving it. The T120 is ok if you and your passenger are not huge but at 6'1" Mrs Grumpy found it a bit cramped for longer journeys.
@@Grumpy-Goblin sounds wonderful. I think, and I may be wrong and happy to be shot down on this but...........the uplift from the 1600 to 1700 seems very strange. It's the same with the Tigers, they went from 800 to 900. I am assuming this is a way to keep the model euro compliant. Not sure. You are right, the space on the thunderbird is much more generous. And the torque on the thunderbird, my god, it could restart a dead planet 😆
@@bankruptpensioner I've not ridden a 1700 so I can't say if it feels much different but on paper there didn't seem to be much gain. I think it was mainly struggling to get through emissions regs that was responsible for the change. I always thought the T120 had a lot of Torque until I got on the Thunderbird lol I can only imagine what the Rocket 3 is like.
Interesting review. I think I would like to get the T100 eventually as it has more than enough power. However, I have heard the T120 might be better for long distance touring as it has an extra gear than the T100 which only has 5 gears. As a side note, I am an Aussie and I did some family/ancestry research in the past few years, and discovered that one of my English Great-Grandmothers (x 3) was born and bred in Longton.
Hi Kim, Longton, well there you go 👍. The T100 is a great bike. I have had about 5 of them and all were wonderful. And more than capable of touring long distances. If you are thinking of a T100, i would highly recommend them. I had two of them when I lived in Qatar. Great times riding in trainers and t-shirts - OMG, that sounds so bad now 😆
Greetings from across the pond! Thanks for the informative video. Can you tell me the video system your using as well as where I can purchase a video stick like the one shown in your video?
Hi Danial, welcome from across the pond 😆. OK, two camera. Helmet - DJI Action 4 connected to the stand alone DJI Mic2 ($90 or thereabouts). Mounted on the bike, Insta660 X3. Both great cameras. The stick is the Insta360 standard extending selfie stick mounted to the bike using a Telesin grip (great grips and I wonld not use any other after using much cheaper ones that just fail). I have upgrade the Insta360 X3 to the X4. Nicer camera and worth noting. Does this help? Any other questions? You may notice that I have an LS2 flip helmet - very noisy. So, I have very recently bought a full face Scorpion Exo 520 which is much quieter and better for the audio. Thoughts?
Good question - on long rides where the motorway is used. So, daily, not a lot. But on the occassion where I go some distance, it is used all the time. Invaluable. 👍
Good question Halavery, At the moment, I use a typical spray can to lube the chain. Having done 4300 miles on the T120, the chain has not required adjustment. That said, I think the chain is over engineered for the bike - which is great. I do have a spare ScottOiler which over the winter, I will be fitting to the T120 in readiness for the spring of 2025.
Dear Sir, Firstly, many thanks for taking the time to make and upload your video - I really enjoyed it. I too am considering buying a T120,. I was just wondering, when you did your 2,000 mile-odd tour to Austria etc., did you bother cleaning and lubing the chain? And if you did, how often? Also, the one thing that's putting me off is trying to keep that beautiful bodywork clean and - more importantly - rust free? Personally, if I'd just invested 10 grand in a T120, I'd be worried about taking it on long tour because of getting it dirty, and allowing those vulnerable parts to become rusty. How did you get around this? Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated. Many thanks for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you. Neil (West Mids).
Great questions Neil. Go test ride one. Make sure it is for you and I am sure it really is 😆. Great machine. So, the chain. No adjustment needed as I think the chain is over engineered for the bike - which is great. I took with me (and use the same right now) a spray can of chain lube. Sprayed every 300 miles and it was fine. If the rollers look a medium dark grey, then they are ok. If they look shiny, then spray is required. If the weather is dry, the spray will fling off the chain and this is what it is meant to do - it takes the dirt off the chain and keeps the cian clean. I do have a ScottOiler which I will fit soon enough. These are great and makes maintainance so easy. You should look into a scottoiler or something similar. On long rides, don't worry about the bike getting scruffy. Just ride and crack on. When you get home, a good wash with a sponge and a big brissle brush is more than enough. I also use a 1 inch brush (the knd of brush for painting at home) to clean the bits that the big brush cannot reach. ACF50 - in readiness for winter, which is about now, I will spray the bike with ACF50 (ebay). and use the 1 inch brush to spead this all over. It will protect the bike from any salt and keep the bike rust free. Come the spring, a good clean removing the ACF50 when all the salt is off the road from the previous winter. £10K - advice. You are only on this planet for a short time 😆. Buy the bike and do not let her become a garage queen. Get out on the bike and enjoy. The kick for your mental health is truly unbelievable. So, go and ride and have a great time. Has this alayed some of your concerns???? What is your next step????
@@bankruptpensioner Hey - what a wonderful reply. Many, many thanks. Out of interest, which route did you take to travel to Austria? Did you stop over in any towns/cities enroute? Where exactly in Austria did you visit? Ive been to Kitzbuhel, Mayerhofen, and Zel am See, and I certainly wouldn't mind going back on a Bonneville. Mind you, I suppose that the weather has to be a consideration now that we're heading into Autumn and Winter. Thanks again. N :)
@@neilyplim So Neil, Tamsweg Austria was the destination. After Bethune in France, we took the A roads all the way. And all the way back. Reason for this is we were all on new tyres and didn't was to create a flat spot on the tyres due to the distance, and, this approach worked really well. Due to bad weather in Austria, after a few days at Tamsweg, we decided to head towards warmer stuff by going north into the Czech Republic. Never been here but it was great. Hotels and food was much cheaper. From the north west of Czech, we then headed back through Germany and onto Belgium. Wonderful A roads and great places to stop for coffee and food. Take a look at the following: th-cam.com/video/oOhQpHIF0Pc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=yhGH2z5TTm5WWCYB
I loved the T900. Great bike. Wonderful!!!!! I was just getting a bit old :). If you are not struggling with the size, then keep it. The T120 has roughly the same power but delivered in a different way. Both are wonderful comfortable. But in different ways. I do miss the Tiger but, today, the T120 fits my personal needs better. Maybe tomorrow, I may want to get another Tiger :)
What do you find your oil consumption to be? I have a 2024 T120 with 3100 miles and it has used just over a quart of oil. Dealer says it’s within spec but seams excessive to me.
So, a quart is just under 1 litre. The T120 holds 3.4 litres with the filter. So a loss of 1 litre out of the 3.4 litre is a loss of approx 29%. So, over 3100 miles, you have lost 29% of your oil. My T120 has completed about 4400 miles in about 5 month (the bike is 5 months old - so relatively new). I have not lost any oil. If my T120 had lost 29% of oil, I would be back to the dealer to check the engine and get the problem sorted. I suspect you have an underlying issue with the motor 😬. Hopefully, your T120 is under warranty?
Yeah the dealer seems to think it’s a non issue, issues are well documented. Went another 400 miles and topped off before I take a 500 mile trip it took about a a quarter cup to top off. Oil is Triumph brand and looks dirty through the window. Dealer tech noted the dirtiness and a slight bit of metal in the oil. I guess it would be good to go back to them with what tests to run and make sure they do it, any suggestions?
@@crumbpicker1 What I would do 😆. Firstly, the black colour of the oil. This is normal as the carbon particles leak past the piston rings into the crank case, making the oil black etc and other piping in the engine system. Side note: In a hydrogen engine, there is no carbon as a bi-product post explossion in the cyclinders hence, the oil in a hydrogen ICE engine always looks brand new regardless of how many miles. OK, what I would do. Order the oil and filter from eBay. Wait for a rainy day. On said rainy day, do an oil change yourself. It's easy. Fill to max on the view window. Monitor from that point. I have just read a few forums on this matter and the issue seems to just be accepted - in the 21st century?? However, as the engine in the T120 is as robust as a concrete mixer engine, maybe it is the case that the engine is bedding in. Once again, rather than give you bull, I have just checked my T120. The oil is at max, just as it was when it had its first service so no loss of oil for me. Can I ask - now the bike is fully bedded in, do you give it a good thrashing every now and then? If not, then do that. Wake up the piston rings to kick out any carbon build up. Get it right up to the red line in second. Give her a good thrashing 👍. Difficult to thrash her as she is very fast. Another side note: Running in aeroplane engines is diffent to cars and motorcycles - I used to have a rebuild and from the first 10 seconds, they were thrashed 😆. That said it would be very difficult to run in an engine on an aeroplane😆. Give me some feedback on the above 👍
Came to exactly the same conclusions as you. Traded in my fully loaded GS1250 which was a fantastic bike but just didn't use it. In reality too big and heavy for everyday use compared to the New T120 I now have so didn't get the use out of it. I can just throw my leg over the triumph at the drop of a hat, happy days. Just need to get it run in 😃👍
Well done Mark, I found the T120 gave me a new lease of life. Rather than poderingover my Tiger 900 and always going for a smaller machine, I like you, just throw my leg over the T120 and just cruise all day 😆
Hi Richard. I'm in a similar position that you were once in. I have a Triumph Tiger 900 Gt Pro, which I do like and have owned for 3 years. She is my second Tiger, the previous one the 800. However she is beginning to feel quite heavy, not when moving but when stationary and moving in the Garage. Advancing years I'm afraid. My question is, although I believe the T120 is heavier than the Tiger, its weight is lower, so does it actually feel lighter at junctions, moving around etc etc. I'd appreciate your comments.
Hi Trevor, like you, the Tiger was getting cumbersome - or more probably, I was getting a bit older 😆. The T120 may well be heavier however, I just throw my leg over and roll her out of the garage. CofG is so low that you dont feel the weight. Riding the bike it feels very light. No problems at juctions or steep hill junctions etc. Moving around is easy, just jump on a push with the feet is needed. It reminds me of the T100, small bike with loads of punch. Best idea - go to the dealer and have a play 😆
Took your advice, and before I was off the car park, the T120 felt good. After 20 minutes I knew I definitely wanted one, so I now have one on order. Can't wait!!!!
@@trevorholman3250 Wow, well done 👍😆, You are going to love this chapter in your riding career 😆. I can start calling myself an influencer - I really need to start talking to Triumph 😬. When you get the T120, let us know how you get on with her. I am sure you will be smiling all the way. Really pleased for you 👍
I tend to agree with you , figuring out what you are going to use your bike for and then buying the machine that will work in most situations well is the way to go. I have a Harley Night train that seems to be turning into a garage queen what with only using it for touring and outings. I never really considered the T120 till you bought one.
@@bankruptpensioner I Know the Street twin is a great machine as i did 3,000 miles on my one in 2021 while i was waiting for my Trident 660 to be delivered. It was a much better machine than the Trident, one i definitely missed when sold on.
I was always planning on getting a T120, not ridden one yet, but last week I test rode a Kawasaki Z900rs, and found that to be really good- what are your thoughts ?
Hi Login, well what can I say. From my perspective, the 900 is simply a wonderful hooligan bike. It truly is right up at the top of the mountain for sure. And will give endless thrills. A wonderful bike. Whereas the T120 is a little more sedate and gives a refined persona. I see the 900 as the original Audi Quattro from Group B rally (killer B's), and the T120 - Thats a two door convertable Rolls Royce 😆 - Would love to know your thoughts on the test ride of the T120 👍
Currently own a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 and my dream bike has been the Triumph Bonneville T120 for many years. Over the last few years I have become so attached to my Interceptor that I cannot honestly even think about parting with it for the very same reasons you have given in this video. If I was to ever go ahead and make the T120 purchase, it would have be in addition to my Interceptor (just live the way both bikes look, absolute classics). Great video. 👊😎👍
Just curious, what psi do you keep your tires at on the T120? My 2020 T120 with 4000+ miles seems very dependent on tire pressures for high speed (70-80mph) riding.
Hi Michael, I use the numbers on the chain guard. Front 2.2, and rear is 2.5. Even two up, the 2.5 on the rear seems ok. Having owned the BSA Gold Star, where the tyres needed to be absoloutly spot on for great handling, I have followed the same approach to the T120. Weekly, I always check. Mine is now 4300 miles. I assume yours is similar, therefore the wear on the rear tyre should be ok. Just check to make sure you dont have a flat spot on the rear 👍
Mate, I've had mine for 11 months and done 12000km and absolutely loving it. I live in Chiang Mai Thailand and the roads here are glorious. One question. I recently rode from Chiang Mai to Bangkok for work which is a 700km ride. I certainly had some wind and neck fatigue over that ride. What screen did you use to alleviate this? BTW I used the cruise control for a short time as I like to be in control with the traffic here, but it it was nice to rest and air the hands.
Mine worked great but some of the bolts were made from monkey metal. I can only recommend the follow: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145511961679?_nkw=A9708304+screen&epid=592741212&itmmeta=01J6W64ZR31KGJNJ1E3AN5M7X5&hash=item21e130544f:g:84YAAOSw5QNjggSm&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkLxjdlmCobwZoU3nRUovyuC8s0xClumxDB58%2BLZ78%2FqzpWuYgEHBBw4WBAXuVO0Dvq6dvkAkpt4WSg2gErRjGrohEBt8p9mAi2SGV9Q5Bx1FJf%2FSzjiUWbUrkkYhJAIUWIHp8eA%2BofDILRvQeRFgNjKCN3eR19ul%2BousMlCvvNnrS449N4kBjw6LRajv4dxjoOSFQDXgXDioESJIfoOVxQk2v72XJe4c5BJA%2F4kb%2Fzxxf%2Bv0k0thJKYyBjeSfDd09h1kMRVQJ4bJx0K7nNL9cDB4VvdmI1jIhxMdNKawkt0A%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5D8k4a3ZA Expensive it is 😬
Blimey, great minds think alike. Is it a retired thing? I also match the bike to the majority of my riding ie local cafe, over moors etc . T120 for occasional long trip is fine, took mine to Normandy, also Picos then through France with no issues. However, I have changed it for a 900RS because I had never owned a 4 cylinder and wanted one before being much older. Took this to Austria with no issues and the plan is “Stelvio at 70” for another trip. Let’s face it, riding to and parking an adventure/tourer at the cafe just isn’t the same as a retro/classic style.
I’m thinking of one still I do like them well I like triumph full stop I think with my sensible head on T120 or speeedmaster leaning towards T120 at the moment for that classic look plenty of add ons make it my own good video take care
Hi Nicholas, first thing, test ride both for a couple of hours. You can then find which suits your style and comfort zones. Basically, both are the same bike with a slightly different persona. I like the tradition look of the T120, but the speedmaster is just great. Plenty of aftermarket parts for both so you can refine the bike as per your needs for the ride ahead. Winter is coming - if second hand, this winter will be full of great opportunities on the second hand market. Let's face it, the second hand sales market for 2024 has been terrible be that private or from a dealer. So bargains could be had 👍
I had a T120 and swapped it for a scrambler 1200 xe. I love the scrambler but I miss the T120 after also riding one in Tenerife. I can see me adding a second hand T120 to my garage in the next year or so. Ride safe!
Totally agree. Love my T100. I'm 73 so I decided to go with the 900cc motor and I am completely satisfied. Like you, I only wish I did it sooner.
It is amazing how age brings wisdom Rob 😆
I bought mine in 2017 every time I ride her she puts a smile on my face. Best bike I’ve got, she’s done 21600 miles and never let me down.
Completely agree David, cracking bike and makes me grin all the time. 👍
Bought my T100 new in 2020.....in my 4th year now.....wont ever part with it.....why would I its perfect.
I love riding a naked bike....wind in my face.....and it stops me being tempted to ride at silly speeds.
I have modded my bike in a few subtle ways to make it look even more old school.
I regularly get 83mpg for the journey on my run down the A49 from the Widnes area in Cheshire to the Raven bikers cafes on a Thursday eve (medway)....50 60mph.....amazing.
Great to see your enjoying your Bonnie so much as well BP.
From Nick a 71 year old codger.
Hi Nick, great story. I have had a dew of the 865 engines - fuel injected, and they were great. Never let me down. I had 2 whn I lived in Qatar - loved the cream and red Newchurch. Looked so cool. 👍
I got myself a brand new (well, actually a 23-model, but it had sat unused at the dealers exhibit, so virtually new but unused) Bonneville T-120 in the middle of August. Finally managed to pass the test and get the bike-license just under 4 weeks ago, and have put nearly 1500km on it in the last few weeks.
Maybe a bit ambitious as a first bike, but I have absolutely no regrets. Looking at it you'd think it may be a case of style over substance, but the simple truth is that the T120 deliver both in spades! It's is wonderfully easy and comfortable to ride, perfect for a calm relaxing Sunday cruise, but still goes like a bat out of Hell if my inner 12-year-old takes over and the going gets a bit frisky! It's pretty much a n excellent Jack-of-all-trades and a purebred Ace when it comes to looks!
Well done Ken for passing your test. A great move forward and then you buy one of the best bikes on the road 😆. Win win ❤
Bought a new T120 in May.Coming from a Harley Road Glide which I'd had for 6years.The Triumph is a great bike and at 67 just what I need nowadays.A fun bike to ride and hopefully I'll be off to Europe on it next year.
Really glad that you got a T120 Stephen. They are a wonderful bike and I get so much fun out of mine. It just gets better and better. I'll see you in Europe next year.😆👍
Totally agree Richard, cracking bike. Had mine for over a year now and it still makes me smile.
I knew this day would come Scott - especially after my first ride of the T120 over in Tenerife. It's a wonderful all rounder bike and can do just about everything you would want, within reason 😆
Hi Richard. August 2023 I bought a 2020 Tiger 900 and was really interested to hear your thoughts about it. The fact you had one made me feel more confident about my purchase. To my surprise & total horror, the next time I tuned into your channel there you were introducing the T120, disaster. For many of the reasons you mentioned, I fell out of love with the Tiger (I did have a 1050 a couple of bikes ago). A skills day at Thruxton decided it for me as around there the 900 was just no fun. But it is a fantastic bike, sooooo smoooth. The previous year I had done it on a Street Twin & was buzzing. I decided a Speed Twin was the next bike for me, but I couldn't find one I could afford. So, yes, you've guessed it, August 2024 I purchased a 2016 T120, only 6k miles & is like new. Again like you, my only regret is I didn't buy one earlier. Enjoy!
Wow, I am now an influencer. You made a great choice on the Tiger 900. It is a great bike but for me, it was getting a little too big and being one of three bikes (and the bigest), I tended towards the other bikes of the time. The only reason was ease of removing from the garage etc. That said, when the ride was long, the Tiger would come out. Maybe I am getting old but the thought of bringing the bike out of the garage always took a deep breath. I don't want to drop it whilst I man handle such a great machine out of the garage. I needed something that could tour but where i could literally jump on the bike and confidently roll it out of the garage and onto the road. Having hired a T120 in Tenerife a couploe of years ago, I knew it was a great ride. So, of course, a few months ago, took the plunge and traded in the Tiger. I do miss the Tiger but, the T120 does exactly what the Tiger did for me. It tours and it is a great city bike and flies on the country roads. And, it is more economical that the Tiger but only a little more. The T120 brings some great attention as well. Just passers by when parked up on a main street. I feel this bike can see me through for a good few years. To get something else as a replacement would be difficult based on my needs. I am really pleased that your T120 meets your needs, KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) is the approach to many things in my life and the T120 falls right into that mindset 😆
I own the 120. the perfect bike for relaxed travelling. greetings from Italy
Welcome on board, Italy😆👍. You are right wind, it's a lovely relaxing bike.👍
I have a 2022 T120, when I bought it I was 46 years young & all the lads were saying your too young for one of them, what do you want that for etc etc. But I loved the retro looks and I wanted it for days out with the wife. And as her late dad used to own a Bonnie in the 80’s. She had some attachment to the triumphs.
Well I love it, and it was 100 percent the correct purchase. It’s powerful and fast enough that I can go for solo rides with my mates on sports bikes and can quite happily keep up or even leave them for dust at times.
But more importantly it’s comfortable for two up riding and the torque is great for two up riding when going up the steep hills we have here in north wales.
she loves it with the optional back rest fitted and feels secure and locked in. You can load it up with bags if required for days away or beach days etc.
It’s just an overall great machine that does everything well. And it also looks fantastic.
Never too young for a Bonnie - bought my first one in 2004 aged 33. The looks are timeless and they are the ‘standard’ for what the general public thinks a good motorbike should look like (been stopped loads of times by people just wanting to talk and admire my Bonnie). I had to get rid of my 2004 earlier this year and no surprise replaced it with a 2020 T100. Absolutely love them - do anything bikes and look gorgeous even when standing parked up.
Great summary - on what is a great bike. If your summary does not make people think, then nothing will 👍😆
I have a 2023 T120 Black. I agree that it is a keeper. I think because it is a contemporary classic, it will never go out of style. It feels very well made and simple - jump on and ride. For me, the shortcoming is that without a windshield or fairing, high speeds (75 mph +) on the highway for long periods is unnerving and tiresome. I plan to add a cruiser to my garage. Looking at a HD Street Glide but I don’t think I can part with my T120.
It's a great bike and easy to ride and has tons of power. You're right about the screen, and the cost of a screen is astronomical. However, these are the times that we're live in. Well done on getting a great bike.👍
I got my T120 in July of 23 I have injoyed 11,500 miles of joy and special peace George Bam Bam Sheppard 12:50
It only gets better on a T120 George 👍😆
Great video and insight.
Just over 3 weeks old now on a motorbike. Started off with a V100 Mandello S. but need a Triumph 120 in my life. Putting a deposit for a T120 Icon edition.
Hi Wilfred, wow an icon edition. That is fantastic. If you get a chance when he gets delivered, please do send a photograph over so I can show the rest of the guys what you've gone and bought. I know they'll love it.❤
I just came across this video of yours. Like you, I used to have a Tiger 900 GT (pro version), excellent bike but a bit too fast and complex for me. I’m 65 and I’ve been riding bikes all my life. A couple of weeks ago I visited my local Triumph dealer and traded my Tiger 900 for a brand new T120. I’ve only had it for a few days but I’m already very satisfied for my purchase and I don’t think I will regret it! I live in the South of Spain, and the Bonneville is a perfect fit for our roads and climate here! Excellent video!
Hi Jaya, a great choice of bike. I think the T120 is perfect for southern spain 👍. I do miss the Tiger but, I reaslly think the T120 was the right move, for me certainly 👍. I think you will fall in love - again 😆
Bought my T100 18 years ago and still love her to bits. Much improved after years of tinkering. Also bought a Speed Twin 900 in 2022 which was a revelation in terms of ease of riding which suits my smaller than normal height and weight.
wow Ian, 18 years. Well done 👍. Speed twin is wonderful. 👍
Bought my green & cream T120 new in 2018 after many years on sport and big touring bikes done a few mods on bike and still got it after 6 years it’s a keeper
James, you are an advocate of the T120 👍
Love my 2017 T120 Black... I purchased used and have put 10k miles on it in the last year... Bought a Triumph Trident last week so I can put less miles on my cherished Bonnie.... cheers.
Funny to hear you guys speaking about a motorcycle as „she” 😉
She’s 16 week old, I bought her, she makes me smile, quite nice personalisation of a peace of machine 😊
It's always a she 😆 - unless it's a 2-stroke 😆
For example, in my language (slovak) the words for things can have a gender, so some things are as females , some things are males and some things are neutral. And motorcycle is "She". For example car is "it", bicycle is "He" and ship is also "She".
@@ivlivskrypta that's really cool. I didn't know that. Thanks for explaining it to us all.👍
Spot on , I've had 6 bikes in the last 10 years from Tigers x 3 ,FJR1300 , Smaller BMW, I got my T120 18 months ago, I smile every time I ride it , she is a bit of a garage queen but she's mine 😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the comment Mr Stew 👍. One of the loveliest bikes on the road 😆
I'm just hunting around utube for T120 content. I am looking at a T120 for me and the misses to ride on. The current ride is a street triple. Just subscribed good video.
Thanks for the subscription Paul, much appreciated. Nothing fine other than a street triple, a great machine however I do see your wanting of a T1 20 when it comes to taking the Mrs on the bike. Go test one at the Triumph dealership and I'm sure that you'll be happy. For me, the T120 is a keeper.
If that’s your only regret then you scored big time with this bike… Great review of a fantastic bike mate 😊
Very interesting. I must admit to never having been "transient" with my bikes, my Norge I had for 11 years before being written off. I loved it and as you say, for the riding I was doing, it was a joy. I never thought I'd like the T120, a naked and chain driven bike. I tried one at the behest of a friend and was blown away, AND my riding needs have changed, and whilst there are a couple of other machines I would love.....the T120 is staying............I have had it 4 years now, with no desire to change it.
It's a keeper Laurie 😆. The T120 is a great bike 👍
Exactly our regret too Richard. Many (perhaps too many) bikes have come and gone over recent years as we've tried to hit the "sweet spot". We first test rode the T120 back in 2016. Finally, bought our 2017 model a few weeks ago and loved it. Maybe we should have had much earlier 😊
Absolutely
I rode a t120 a little over a year ago. I was in the market for a sporty commuter but test rode one because I liked the way it looked. I thought it was a brilliant bike, but I was coming off of a Road King and it was still a little more sluggish to turn in than what I thought I wanted. I ended up with a Tiger Sport 660 and it has less than 3000 miles on it in over a year. Now I'm looking to sell it and get a t120. I thought I wanted to be a fast boy... I guess not, huh?
Hi Josh, trust me, on the T120, you can still be the fast boy 😆. The torque on the T120 is enough to restart a dead planet 😆. Go for a T120, you are going to love owning one and like most, and assuming you are going to ride it and not leave it in the garage, you will probably find it is a keeper ❤
I have heatd people say that newer Triumph twins don't compare with the old ones ... maybe that's because the old ones needed a topend rebuild every 30k miles - at least they did they way we used to ride them back in the seventies before all these speed cameras !
It always looks better in the past that's called nostalgia 😆
@@bankruptpensioner I think you miss-understood my comment - I am not saying the older Triumphs are better at all, but I do agree that the world has turned and things aren't how they used to be - thank heavens !
I recently gave some thought to off loading my GoldStar and took a Honda NC750X DCT out on a demo ride. The bike was fantastic and I loved it so what stopped me trading it in. Firstly its because they offered me £2600 on my bike, with only 675 miles on the clock, that cost me £6800 18 months ago. Secondly its because although the seat height is acceptable once your aboard actually getting on and off it was hard work, i ended up bruising the inside of my right leg and pulling a muscle. I loved the bike but the bike didn't love me.
Residuals are really poor at the moment aren't they? 😢. We also have a Royal Enfield Classic 350. It's only 18 months old but the trade-in price is ridiculous 😬. So, we're keeping "Ernie" too and for the first time, have become a two bike family 😊. For commuting, lanes exploring and local bimbles the Classic 350 is King. For everything else (especially two-up) it's the T120 😊
I thought long and hard about the Triumph T100 and T120 but the long stroke air cooled 360 crank and the overall looks of the W800 won me over. I had a hard time finding one in stock near me but when I did I jumped on it and have no regrets. I like the Bonneville but I don't find the sound of the exhaust from a 270 degree crank to be as authentic or as pleasant as the 360 degree crank on the W800. I also wanted a basic bike with true air cooling, long stroke engine with a low and wide torque range just like the original British bikes. I also have a 1968 Norton Commando that I am renovating.
Cheers
Personally Bob, I see no real reason to have a 270 crank. Certainly when it comes to normal riding. A 360 is much more balanced and it's been used for years therefore it is a known technical thing. The tech chaps love to give us stuff that is not needed (really) and just inflates prices I guess 👍
I owned a Commando 850 and a T140V in the 70's. Great bikes but never thought about 360 cranks. I now own a 2002 W650 and 2019 Speed Twin 1200 and the 360/270 crank still makes no difference. The modern Triumph 1200 is smooth, has great low down torque, is characterful and sounds great even with the stock exhaust. It really is a huge improvement over the older parallel twins.😊
@@splodge57 Yes. All new twins regardless of crank angle are miles ahead of the old bikes of the 60s and 70s. Nothing wrong with a 270 degree crank. I just prefer the sound of a 360 degree engine. The difference is slight and may not be noticed by some but the 270 degree engines sound a little more like a V twin to my ears. There are other factors that helped me decide on a W800. Less complicated air cooling with no water pump, cable operated throttle, no radiator or coolant changes to worry about, no traction control and no complicated rider modes. Air cooling limits the overall power that can safely be produced but i don't need the extra power. Dealer network and parts availability were also a concern. All in all I made the right decision for me. Your wants and needs may be different than mine. To each his own. Enjoy what ever machine tickles your fancy. They are all great bikes.
Like I said I have a W650, a great bike. I've done 35,000 miles on it and it's a keeper. I'm just not bothered about this 360 is better than 270 debate.😂
Enjoy your W800.
@@bankruptpensioner The firing order of a 360 degree twin is perfectly even but the fact that the pistons are rising and falling together at the same time makes them more difficult and expensive to balance out vibrations. A 270 degree crank is a bit of a compromise but they are easier to smooth out and sound more like a V-twin. There are reasons why most manufacturers have adopted the 270 crank.
I’ve got one. I bought it new. Never ridden one or heard one run either. I got it from Manchester triumph. The first time I heard it run was just before they wheeled it out of the showroom. I had my photo taken with it outside the building. Then rode it back home. After about a mile, I realised that I had a wonderful motorbike.
Well done Steven, a great choice. I find the more I ride the T120, the better life gets 😆
@@bankruptpensioner you are so right. I have 8 bikes. The T120 is hard to not take out. Safe riding bro.
i have a T120 and my name is richard i have done 8000 miles on mine the biggest improvement i made was fitting metzeler tyres i love it
That's interesting, Richard, what model of Metzelers did you put on?
Great bikes. I have a Speed Twin 1200, love the engine, plenty of torque and character. I think all the Bonneville range look good, well made with great attention to detail.
Hey Splodge, you are right, this 1200 engine is perfect. In fact, it's that good, if I had a boat, I would stick this engine in it 😆 - not that I know anything about boats 😆. The build quality of the T120 is so good and if one looks after it, it should look like new for a very long time 👍
I’m buying it!
Hi Sasa, you are making the right choice 👍. Get ready to upgrade the front sprocket to 15 tooth and perfection is the way forward 😆
i swapped a speed triple for a T120 this summer. really pleased i did. it suits the back roads i ride, decent in town, capable and comfortable on long journeys. it gets loads of attention if you dont mind that sort of thing. i ride a lot, but lucky to have a couple of other bikes so i can baby the bonneville a bit. i'll definitely spare it the winter and use my 'africa twin in the bad weather
A great choice Ben and I just love my T120 👍. I bet you miss the hooligan speed triple though 😆
@bankruptpensioner speed triple was great for overtakes....easy to make progress
@@benwaddington2475 It certainly wound have been Ben 😆👍
Thinking of buying t120, trading my street triple r 765.
Completely different bikes, but go for it. Take a test ride on the T120 and see what you think.👍
I've given up selling bikes. Quite the opposite in fact, we've got eight scattered around the place now. I'm very happy with this although it's not without its own problems. They are currently all running and road legal. It's possible one may be sold, if the market ever picks up, and one may be replaced but other than that I'm done buying and selling. Unless I get the six numbers up one day, obviously.. In which case I will give Jay Leno a run for his money. Oh and I would quite like an old 60s Triumph... so maybe one more to add.. N+1 and all that...
That's the way to do it Mr B :)
Yup. An only motorbike is a lonely motorbike.
@@MeYou-yz2yz 😆
I had 2 T100’s. Great machines. Regret selling. I’ve had the 1200 XE scrambler which was massive in height even with my 6’1” height. Currently have the 2023 Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer which is an amazing machine but too high for the wife on pillon. Considering going to a T120.
Hi Scotty, I've had a couple of the 865's and they were great. Good test ride a t120. I think you'll like it, it's a very classic ride with loads of power. And I think your missus will like it as well as he's easy to get on.👍
I’ve been riding a 2023 Tiger 900GT Pro. I really want to trade in for a T120 black. Would I be sacrificing a lot of comfort for agility and style?
A great question - and that is exactly what I did, however, at the time, i was not 100% fit. However, really depends on what you would want to do with the T120. I like long tours - UK and across Europe. I swapped to the T120 from the Tiger 900. Was concerned about the T120 for long rides and its comfort. So, put a cheap screen on the T120 and set off for Austria. The T120 was super comfy just like the Tiger. So.....now, with the T120, I have super comfort, and super style 👍. That said, I do miss the Tiger now my health issues have been addressed / controlled 😆.Does this help?
I also have a T120 and even put Ohlins suspensions front and rear. Heated grips, USB charge, comfort seat. The only bike I would consider trading it in is... BWM R1250R :)
hi, is there much difference between the years of manufacture? i see bargains on t120s registered in 2016/2017 with low mileage was just wondering if significant changes occurred later in production making these bikes drop value or something?
Hi, thanks for the comment and a really good question. There's no difference really from a 2017 to a modern version of the T120. The modern version will have cruise control and things like that, but ultimately they're the same bike. The secondhand value of a 2017 version, with probably low mileage, makes it a worthwhile purchase. The engines are bombproof and as long as you've got a good service history, I wouldn't think twice about buying one that was 6 or 7 years old.. I've seen them on marketplace starting around £5500, maybe a little more with less than 8000 miles on the clock. And due to the nature of the bank and the nature of the person that would be buying it, you can usually guarantee that they are well looked after. Hope this helps.👍
@@bankruptpensioner thanks very much for your reply, very helpful :) my biking journey begins on sunday with the cbt and then DAS next month. Sounds like I can get one of these with confidence, can't wait! All the best and I look forward to watching more of your content :)
@@jktgames8341 how did the CBT go on the Sunday?
@@bankruptpensioner very poorly unfortunately, all the classic beginner mistakes - poor clutch control, too rigid on the bike and ultimately got asked to go home before the group went on the road test. a very disheartening experience but im going back on saturday for another try. didnt help i was in a class with 3 teenage motorcrossers! thanks for asking :)
Can you please tell us what the screen was that you fitted for touring. Was it a triumph if not what make. Thank you.
Hi David, it was an aftermarket product and I just cannot find one to show you. Whilst it performed really well, the metal on it was a bit monkey. So, look up this one from triumph. Got to be the way forward but it is overpriced: A9708304
The video title really caught my attention! 😅 An old colleague of mine has a 2017 T120 Black for sale, but I do love my GS, and the garage is already quite full.☺
Let's be clear, motorcycle owners always defy the laws of physics 😆, there is always room for another bike 😆. It's just persuding the missus - now that is quantum physics - 😆
You'll really appreciate the heated grips in a few month's time. They're easily owner installed.
You are right - I need to think about that. Heated Keis gloves to go with my jacket or heated grips. Mmmmmmm
I bought a new T120 in 2017 and had it five years but straight away I knew I should have gone for a Thruxton R. So in 2019 I bought a Thruxton R too but then had two triumphs. I have other bikes too but after getting the Thruxton I found the T120 never got used much so I traded that in for a Panigale V2 in 2022 but I still have my Thruxton. The T120 was beautiful and the quality was brilliant but it was just too much like a cruiser bike on the road. I prefer the sporty Thruxton.
Hi Lar, good to know I am not the only addict on motorcycles 😆. Thruxton sounds wonderful. I need to get my hands on one. 😆
That's really good gas mileage for T120. The best I have had with my 2022 W800 is 73mpg (Imperial).
Cheers
73 is great Bob, welll done for the w800 - a superb bike 👍
@@bankruptpensioner Thanks. That is general riding at 55 to 60mph so that's about as good as it will get.
Great engine on the t 120 👍 like you I had a tiger gt pro , great bike but I never could be bothered to ride it ! I bought it for 10 percent of my riding ! The T 120 looks so Cool , Enjoy .
It's amazing Paul how many riders have moved from the Tiger (a great bike) to the T120. Seems very strange, in a positive way, how many are doing this 👍
I owned my first bike for 10 years. After buying my next motorcycle (Harley Sportster), I still have it 25 years later. So I am sure the T120 will be here to stay when I buy her in April.
OMG, next April - that feels such a long time 😆. For you, it must be like when you book a vacation in the future and have all the time to look forward to the event. Great stuff. I assume you have had a test ride? What did you think?
@@bankruptpensioner I have not test ridden one. But that's ok with me. I know what it has and what it can do.
I bought my Sportster the same way with no regrets.
@@hogwylde love your style 👍
I agree that it is one of the best all-round bikes you could ever own and it is beautiful looking. Were I filthy rich I would have kept mine but alas that is not the case and that leads me on to the one caveat that I would add to your comments. For solo touring the T120 is brilliant and I would have no issue travelling on it solo anywhere. The problem for me is that it is, physically, quite a small bike and it was never going to work for us as a two-up tourer which is why I bought the Thunderbird. I don't regret the decision but in the perfect world I would have kept the Bonneville.
Hey Grumpy, thanks for the comment. Wow, the thunderbird. What a great bike. Is it the 16 or 1700? I had a 1700 when living in Qatar and brought it back to the UK in 2020. What a machine, but alas, I had to sell her. I do understand your thoughts for touring on the T120. Yes, great for one but more a struggle with two. It is a small(er) bike for sure. I am going to have to do a test on a few days away with the T120 with a pillion maybe - we shall see who is brave enough to come with me 😆
@@bankruptpensioner Mine is the 1600 with the Red Phantom Haze paint and I am loving it. The T120 is ok if you and your passenger are not huge but at 6'1" Mrs Grumpy found it a bit cramped for longer journeys.
@@Grumpy-Goblin sounds wonderful. I think, and I may be wrong and happy to be shot down on this but...........the uplift from the 1600 to 1700 seems very strange. It's the same with the Tigers, they went from 800 to 900. I am assuming this is a way to keep the model euro compliant. Not sure. You are right, the space on the thunderbird is much more generous. And the torque on the thunderbird, my god, it could restart a dead planet 😆
@@bankruptpensioner I've not ridden a 1700 so I can't say if it feels much different but on paper there didn't seem to be much gain. I think it was mainly struggling to get through emissions regs that was responsible for the change. I always thought the T120 had a lot of Torque until I got on the Thunderbird lol I can only imagine what the Rocket 3 is like.
Interesting review. I think I would like to get the T100 eventually as it has more than enough power. However, I have heard the T120 might be better for long distance touring as it has an extra gear than the T100 which only has 5 gears. As a side note, I am an Aussie and I did some family/ancestry research in the past few years, and discovered that one of my English Great-Grandmothers (x 3) was born and bred in Longton.
Hi Kim, Longton, well there you go 👍. The T100 is a great bike. I have had about 5 of them and all were wonderful. And more than capable of touring long distances. If you are thinking of a T100, i would highly recommend them. I had two of them when I lived in Qatar. Great times riding in trainers and t-shirts - OMG, that sounds so bad now 😆
Greetings from across the pond! Thanks for the informative video. Can you tell me the video system your using as well as where I can purchase a video stick like the one shown in your video?
Hi Danial, welcome from across the pond 😆. OK, two camera. Helmet - DJI Action 4 connected to the stand alone DJI Mic2 ($90 or thereabouts). Mounted on the bike, Insta660 X3. Both great cameras. The stick is the Insta360 standard extending selfie stick mounted to the bike using a Telesin grip (great grips and I wonld not use any other after using much cheaper ones that just fail). I have upgrade the Insta360 X3 to the X4. Nicer camera and worth noting. Does this help? Any other questions? You may notice that I have an LS2 flip helmet - very noisy. So, I have very recently bought a full face Scorpion Exo 520 which is much quieter and better for the audio. Thoughts?
How much do you use the cruise control?
Good question - on long rides where the motorway is used. So, daily, not a lot. But on the occassion where I go some distance, it is used all the time. Invaluable. 👍
on longer trips how to you handle chain maintenance?
Good question Halavery, At the moment, I use a typical spray can to lube the chain. Having done 4300 miles on the T120, the chain has not required adjustment. That said, I think the chain is over engineered for the bike - which is great. I do have a spare ScottOiler which over the winter, I will be fitting to the T120 in readiness for the spring of 2025.
Dear Sir,
Firstly, many thanks for taking the time to make and upload your video - I really enjoyed it.
I too am considering buying a T120,.
I was just wondering, when you did your 2,000 mile-odd tour to Austria etc., did you bother cleaning and lubing the chain? And if you did, how often?
Also, the one thing that's putting me off is trying to keep that beautiful bodywork clean and - more importantly - rust free?
Personally, if I'd just invested 10 grand in a T120, I'd be worried about taking it on long tour because of getting it dirty, and allowing those vulnerable parts to become rusty.
How did you get around this?
Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated.
Many thanks for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you.
Neil (West Mids).
Great questions Neil. Go test ride one. Make sure it is for you and I am sure it really is 😆. Great machine. So, the chain. No adjustment needed as I think the chain is over engineered for the bike - which is great. I took with me (and use the same right now) a spray can of chain lube. Sprayed every 300 miles and it was fine. If the rollers look a medium dark grey, then they are ok. If they look shiny, then spray is required. If the weather is dry, the spray will fling off the chain and this is what it is meant to do - it takes the dirt off the chain and keeps the cian clean. I do have a ScottOiler which I will fit soon enough. These are great and makes maintainance so easy. You should look into a scottoiler or something similar. On long rides, don't worry about the bike getting scruffy. Just ride and crack on. When you get home, a good wash with a sponge and a big brissle brush is more than enough. I also use a 1 inch brush (the knd of brush for painting at home) to clean the bits that the big brush cannot reach. ACF50 - in readiness for winter, which is about now, I will spray the bike with ACF50 (ebay). and use the 1 inch brush to spead this all over. It will protect the bike from any salt and keep the bike rust free. Come the spring, a good clean removing the ACF50 when all the salt is off the road from the previous winter. £10K - advice. You are only on this planet for a short time 😆. Buy the bike and do not let her become a garage queen. Get out on the bike and enjoy. The kick for your mental health is truly unbelievable. So, go and ride and have a great time. Has this alayed some of your concerns???? What is your next step????
@@bankruptpensioner Hey - what a wonderful reply. Many, many thanks. Out of interest, which route did you take to travel to Austria? Did you stop over in any towns/cities enroute? Where exactly in Austria did you visit? Ive been to Kitzbuhel, Mayerhofen, and Zel am See, and I certainly wouldn't mind going back on a Bonneville. Mind you, I suppose that the weather has to be a consideration now that we're heading into Autumn and Winter. Thanks again. N :)
@@neilyplim So Neil, Tamsweg Austria was the destination. After Bethune in France, we took the A roads all the way. And all the way back. Reason for this is we were all on new tyres and didn't was to create a flat spot on the tyres due to the distance, and, this approach worked really well. Due to bad weather in Austria, after a few days at Tamsweg, we decided to head towards warmer stuff by going north into the Czech Republic. Never been here but it was great. Hotels and food was much cheaper. From the north west of Czech, we then headed back through Germany and onto Belgium. Wonderful A roads and great places to stop for coffee and food. Take a look at the following:
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I currently have Tiger 900 GT Pro. Does the T120 have more power? Do you miss the comfort of Tiger?
I loved the T900. Great bike. Wonderful!!!!! I was just getting a bit old :). If you are not struggling with the size, then keep it. The T120 has roughly the same power but delivered in a different way. Both are wonderful comfortable. But in different ways. I do miss the Tiger but, today, the T120 fits my personal needs better. Maybe tomorrow, I may want to get another Tiger :)
What do you find your oil consumption to be? I have a 2024 T120 with 3100 miles and it has used just over a quart of oil. Dealer says it’s within spec but seams excessive to me.
So, a quart is just under 1 litre. The T120 holds 3.4 litres with the filter. So a loss of 1 litre out of the 3.4 litre is a loss of approx 29%. So, over 3100 miles, you have lost 29% of your oil. My T120 has completed about 4400 miles in about 5 month (the bike is 5 months old - so relatively new). I have not lost any oil. If my T120 had lost 29% of oil, I would be back to the dealer to check the engine and get the problem sorted. I suspect you have an underlying issue with the motor 😬. Hopefully, your T120 is under warranty?
Yeah the dealer seems to think it’s a non issue, issues are well documented. Went another 400 miles and topped off before I take a 500 mile trip it took about a a quarter cup to top off. Oil is Triumph brand and looks dirty through the window. Dealer tech noted the dirtiness and a slight bit of metal in the oil. I guess it would be good to go back to them with what tests to run and make sure they do it, any suggestions?
@@crumbpicker1 What I would do 😆. Firstly, the black colour of the oil. This is normal as the carbon particles leak past the piston rings into the crank case, making the oil black etc and other piping in the engine system. Side note: In a hydrogen engine, there is no carbon as a bi-product post explossion in the cyclinders hence, the oil in a hydrogen ICE engine always looks brand new regardless of how many miles. OK, what I would do. Order the oil and filter from eBay. Wait for a rainy day. On said rainy day, do an oil change yourself. It's easy. Fill to max on the view window. Monitor from that point. I have just read a few forums on this matter and the issue seems to just be accepted - in the 21st century?? However, as the engine in the T120 is as robust as a concrete mixer engine, maybe it is the case that the engine is bedding in. Once again, rather than give you bull, I have just checked my T120. The oil is at max, just as it was when it had its first service so no loss of oil for me. Can I ask - now the bike is fully bedded in, do you give it a good thrashing every now and then? If not, then do that. Wake up the piston rings to kick out any carbon build up. Get it right up to the red line in second. Give her a good thrashing 👍. Difficult to thrash her as she is very fast. Another side note: Running in aeroplane engines is diffent to cars and motorcycles - I used to have a rebuild and from the first 10 seconds, they were thrashed 😆. That said it would be very difficult to run in an engine on an aeroplane😆. Give me some feedback on the above 👍
Came to exactly the same conclusions as you. Traded in my fully loaded GS1250 which was a fantastic bike but just didn't use it. In reality too big and heavy for everyday use compared to the New T120 I now have so didn't get the use out of it. I can just throw my leg over the triumph at the drop of a hat, happy days. Just need to get it run in 😃👍
Well done Mark, I found the T120 gave me a new lease of life. Rather than poderingover my Tiger 900 and always going for a smaller machine, I like you, just throw my leg over the T120 and just cruise all day 😆
Hi Richard. I'm in a similar position that you were once in.
I have a Triumph Tiger 900 Gt Pro, which I do like and have owned for 3 years. She is my second Tiger, the previous one the 800. However she is beginning to feel quite heavy, not when moving but when stationary and moving in the Garage. Advancing years I'm afraid. My question is, although I believe the T120 is heavier than the Tiger, its weight is lower, so does it actually feel lighter at junctions, moving around etc etc.
I'd appreciate your comments.
Hi Trevor, like you, the Tiger was getting cumbersome - or more probably, I was getting a bit older 😆. The T120 may well be heavier however, I just throw my leg over and roll her out of the garage. CofG is so low that you dont feel the weight. Riding the bike it feels very light. No problems at juctions or steep hill junctions etc. Moving around is easy, just jump on a push with the feet is needed. It reminds me of the T100, small bike with loads of punch. Best idea - go to the dealer and have a play 😆
Took your advice, and before I was off the car park, the T120 felt good. After 20 minutes I knew I definitely wanted one, so I now have one on order. Can't wait!!!!
@@trevorholman3250 Wow, well done 👍😆, You are going to love this chapter in your riding career 😆. I can start calling myself an influencer - I really need to start talking to Triumph 😬. When you get the T120, let us know how you get on with her. I am sure you will be smiling all the way. Really pleased for you 👍
I tend to agree with you , figuring out what you are going to use your bike for and then buying the machine that will work in most situations well is the way to go. I have a Harley Night train that seems to be turning into a garage queen what with only using it for touring and outings. I never really considered the T120 till you bought one.
Hey Gordon, go test ride one. And the 900cc as well. Great machines. It is so sad when it gets to a point of a bike becoming a garage queen. 👍
@@bankruptpensioner I Know the Street twin is a great machine as i did 3,000 miles on my one in 2021 while i was waiting for my Trident 660 to be delivered. It was a much better machine than the Trident, one i definitely missed when sold on.
I was always planning on getting a T120, not ridden one yet, but last week I test rode a Kawasaki Z900rs, and found that to be really good- what are your thoughts ?
Hi Login, well what can I say. From my perspective, the 900 is simply a wonderful hooligan bike. It truly is right up at the top of the mountain for sure. And will give endless thrills. A wonderful bike. Whereas the T120 is a little more sedate and gives a refined persona. I see the 900 as the original Audi Quattro from Group B rally (killer B's), and the T120 - Thats a two door convertable Rolls Royce 😆 - Would love to know your thoughts on the test ride of the T120 👍
Currently own a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 and my dream bike has been the Triumph Bonneville T120 for many years. Over the last few years I have become so attached to my Interceptor that I cannot honestly even think about parting with it for the very same reasons you have given in this video. If I was to ever go ahead and make the T120 purchase, it would have be in addition to my Interceptor (just live the way both bikes look, absolute classics). Great video.
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I understand entirely 👍. Different bikes, but the same strokes 👍
Just curious, what psi do you keep your tires at on the T120? My 2020 T120 with 4000+ miles seems very dependent on tire pressures for high speed (70-80mph) riding.
Hi Michael, I use the numbers on the chain guard. Front 2.2, and rear is 2.5. Even two up, the 2.5 on the rear seems ok. Having owned the BSA Gold Star, where the tyres needed to be absoloutly spot on for great handling, I have followed the same approach to the T120. Weekly, I always check. Mine is now 4300 miles. I assume yours is similar, therefore the wear on the rear tyre should be ok. Just check to make sure you dont have a flat spot on the rear 👍
Regrets starting 07:35
I never sell my bikes after two years I usually keep my bikes for about 10 years
hi Tony, from a financial perspective, what you are doing is the absoloute right thing 👍
Mate, I've had mine for 11 months and done 12000km and absolutely loving it. I live in Chiang Mai Thailand and the roads here are glorious. One question. I recently rode from Chiang Mai to Bangkok for work which is a 700km ride. I certainly had some wind and neck fatigue over that ride. What screen did you use to alleviate this? BTW I used the cruise control for a short time as I like to be in control with the traffic here, but it it was nice to rest and air the hands.
Mine worked great but some of the bolts were made from monkey metal. I can only recommend the follow:
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Expensive it is 😬
@@bankruptpensioner Thanks, yep pricey but seems better than the short screens available and I like the way it fully wraps around the headlight.
Blimey, great minds think alike. Is it a retired thing? I also match the bike to the majority of my riding ie local cafe, over moors etc . T120 for occasional long trip is fine, took mine to Normandy, also Picos then through France with no issues. However, I have changed it for a 900RS because I had never owned a 4 cylinder and wanted one before being much older. Took this to Austria with no issues and the plan is “Stelvio at 70” for another trip. Let’s face it, riding to and parking an adventure/tourer at the cafe just isn’t the same as a retro/classic style.
Z900RS will provide you with lots of fun, mate 👍
What tyres are you riding?
@@kwakithailand changed to Road 5s just before the trip. Rear tyre squared off after 3.5k.
too quiet for me ,got a 79 bonnie with peashooters nothing like it ....
Wow Gareth, that must sound beautiful on the streets😆👍
I find my T120 2022 Goldline vibrates too much
My 2022 is silky smooth.,is your chain adjustment / alignment all ok?
Interesting Barrie, tyre preassures as they should be??
last bike i had i kept for 15 years before it blew its gearbox cost me 300 quid got 320 thou out of it
Now that's great value for money Peter 😆
Ill have mine soon
Exciting times 😆 - enjoy when you get it 👍
I’m thinking of one still I do like them well I like triumph full stop I think with my sensible head on T120 or speeedmaster leaning towards T120 at the moment for that classic look plenty of add ons make it my own good video take care
Hi Nicholas, first thing, test ride both for a couple of hours. You can then find which suits your style and comfort zones. Basically, both are the same bike with a slightly different persona. I like the tradition look of the T120, but the speedmaster is just great. Plenty of aftermarket parts for both so you can refine the bike as per your needs for the ride ahead. Winter is coming - if second hand, this winter will be full of great opportunities on the second hand market. Let's face it, the second hand sales market for 2024 has been terrible be that private or from a dealer. So bargains could be had 👍
I had a T120 and swapped it for a scrambler 1200 xe. I love the scrambler but I miss the T120 after also riding one in Tenerife. I can see me adding a second hand T120 to my garage in the next year or so. Ride safe!
best of both worlds 😆