I've been a tad addicted to Suno the past week. I've been feeding it my custom lyrics. I realize fairly quickly the thing with lyrical structured prompts, but was looking for more prompts to fine tune the song to the way I want it, beyond the "chorus," "verse", "bridge" aspects. The musical styles prompt is fun to play with and the use of the word "experimental" has provided me with some fascinating results. At this point, the thing I would like most is for whenever I get a style/melody/vocals render I approve of using it could be edited and re-rendered in that exact style, etc. For instance, I mush too often make a typo and don't see it before rendering a song. The song Suno pops out might be perfect for me other than my own flub, but I apparently cannot correct the flub and still keep that version of the music and vocals. I also sometimes write lyrics on the fly, so to speak, in the program, and often I fine tune the words after hearing the results after rendering. There again, I often would still like to retain the version it gave me, but with the corrections I made. If this is not just something I am overlooking, maybe one day that feature can be added?
I completely agree. We need to be able to make small adjustments without completely regenerating something we already like. I think it’s one of the biggest issues with the current version.
1: Go to the file you liked. 2: Click Extend 3: Set the time back around 00:02 seconds. Or a little after. But before it gets to vocals or any main beat line. This usually keeps the seed values for the track and mostly retains sound quality, and sometimes the voice. Better than rolling random. But I hope they give direct seeds we can input soon.
Good information, thank you. Such a fun thing to mess around with, really gives better idea on how important lyrical structure can be to fit within a song
So glad you enjoyed it! I did another episode here walking through the entire process of creating a song live with all the problems and solutions I ran into. A.I. music on Suno. Episode 01: Man vs Bear th-cam.com/video/TvamkhqBA4U/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! People seem interested. I may split these off into a second channel and will likely do some videos on the other A.I. music software as well. :)
Great video. Have you found any ways to prescribe meter within verses? A consistent stumbling block for me is the AI going off on a tangent rhythmically and not following what I want to be the timing of the verse/chorus/etc
Thank you! The meter is really tricky. I found that I had to sometimes change the wording slightly to get it to work - but it's one of the problems I most run into. It would be nice if there was a way to denote how to break up each word/ phrase. I did a video running through the entire process of creating a song where you can see where it works and where it does NOT.
Useful tips there. I have added to the little I know about Suno. Thank you. I never studied music but want to make money by making and distributing AI musing on all streaming platforms. Is this possible with Suno?
If you are paying for the service then according to them, you own the copyright and can distribute the music. You will have to look at using one of the distribution services like CD Baby to get the music on different platforms, but it is possible! You can also have the song playable on Suno but I don’t think they are paying people to stream on their platform.
Wow. This is really awesome. I have been playing around with Suno AI, still haven’t gone to subscription yet. Just an ideas, have you tried using old Scottish Sailor, or Irish folk with the fat guy in a little boat? I did a funny song using something similar…
I would love to be able to lock in the song but just build up on the lyrics. because as I hear it I like to make small changes or add some lyrics. It'll get there
I uploaded the app after hearing some amazing songs and appreciate your tutorial! Before I try the free version, can you let me know if I can listen to multiple versions of a song before saving? It says it gives 10 coins? Note I'm just doing this for fun, but love things that ignite creativity and love your catchy fat guy in a boat song!
it uses the coins as you create songs, so what they give you will only go a little ways. I'm not sure if it renews the number of coins each day, or monthly or not at all. There seems to be less and less free options in A.I. these days. it's a little more fun to play around with when you know you wont be limited. Have fun making some music!!
@@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat glad to help! I've decided to start doing more videos on A.I. Music. I've been having fun with it and decided to share what I've found. Check out the new videos!!! (Matt Dean's A.I. Song Wheel of Destiny!)
I'm curious? The art work "Fat Boy in a Boat", Was that created by Suno? I am intrigued with what I just viewed. I'm a beginner and just found out about Suno a few days ago. Thank you for the lesson. Await your respond re: cover art.
The artwork was created in Firefly from Adobe. It’s pretty good, but still needs some work to get prompts right. It had NO idea how to make a sail boat. 🤣🤣
I had problems with it doing intros as well. I did a video creating a song from scratch and ran through that exact problem. Perhaps try [instrumental open] as a prompt??
I have an issue, I'm trying to make a drill song with lyrics but the beat never drops when I want it to. More specifically on exactly what lyric I want the beat to drop on. I've tried putting it at the start, at the end and between the last and second-to-last words in the verse. I've also tried putting it every 2nd verse to see if maybe having it after every verse was an issue. Do you have any tips? Thanks in advance
For these types of issues, I recommend taking pieces of the song and see if you can cut them together yourself. The ai still isn’t great with precise directions. Have the ai make the segments you like - and see if you can make it be closer to what you want by editing those pieces in an audio or audio and video software. (DaVinci free version might be good for that). Let me know how it goes!
I just added a new video about 3.5 and it’s much better at dealing with descriptive prompts. Things like adding drums and things that you are wanting to do is much better.
There is an option of instrumental only on Suno, but it doesn’t have a way to bring in your own music (at least not yet). I’ve heard that one of the other AI services can use music that you bring in. I’ll need to research it further.
[Intro] doesn't work for me. Also, the biggest mystery is if it is possible and how (probably not) to amend the lyrics of a song you've generated. Whilst you can extend on it (i.e. add further verses), you can't just amend a couple of lines and re-generate an existing song with exactly the same voice/music/rhythm. That's something Suno has to work on. Extending from inside a generated song also results in slight variations and the results are not quite the same as the originally generated song. At least in the Russian language I've played with.
Agreed. It has a lot of problems. There doesn’t seem to be a way to tell it that you like certain aspects of a song and tell it not to change those while fixing other parts. It’s very much an “All or nothing” approach to making a song.
I've been trying to make 90s eurobeat dance songs for fun and most of those songs have female vocals with a male rap in one of the later verses... i haven't figured out a way to do this and seems like something that should be pretty simple. i try, like, [male rap verse 2] and it never seems to do anything no matter what i try.
@@OODZUTSU it’s still very problematic when it comes to specifics. It’s seems to like style of song first followed by and details. I did an episode of building a song from beginning to end if you’re interested… A.I. music on Suno. Episode 01: Man vs Bear th-cam.com/video/TvamkhqBA4U/w-d-xo.html
I’ve run into some REALLY weird ones with that. Some times it talks the lyrics (not rap- just talks)… sometimes it repeats or just goes silent. I may make a new video soon to try some new techniques.
Put a multiple of period at the end of your word you want him to hold .... Like that the more dots you add the longer the note holds. Also the more you thumb up or down your songs the more the AI learns your likes and dislikes
Also if ANYONE enjoys good ole SLEAZE Metal, we will debut our first album on July 1st, please help us out and buy yourself a copy of one hell of a compilation of 16 songs.. available on Amazon, iTunes iHeartRadio and all your platforms..
...oh man I am so far away from music that when (3:19) he said 'this is terrible' i, at the exact time in my mind said 'its sounds good' ...i am now sad b/c of my knowledge/taste in music LOL
Just put up a new video talking about 3.5. This is a great tool to start learning music. You could end up being the new face of music if it’s something you want to pursue.
I've been a tad addicted to Suno the past week. I've been feeding it my custom lyrics. I realize fairly quickly the thing with lyrical structured prompts, but was looking for more prompts to fine tune the song to the way I want it, beyond the "chorus," "verse", "bridge" aspects. The musical styles prompt is fun to play with and the use of the word "experimental" has provided me with some fascinating results. At this point, the thing I would like most is for whenever I get a style/melody/vocals render I approve of using it could be edited and re-rendered in that exact style, etc. For instance, I mush too often make a typo and don't see it before rendering a song. The song Suno pops out might be perfect for me other than my own flub, but I apparently cannot correct the flub and still keep that version of the music and vocals. I also sometimes write lyrics on the fly, so to speak, in the program, and often I fine tune the words after hearing the results after rendering. There again, I often would still like to retain the version it gave me, but with the corrections I made. If this is not just something I am overlooking, maybe one day that feature can be added?
I completely agree. We need to be able to make small adjustments without completely regenerating something we already like. I think it’s one of the biggest issues with the current version.
@realmattdean I'm completely sure it will be available in the next version
1: Go to the file you liked.
2: Click Extend
3: Set the time back around 00:02 seconds. Or a little after. But before it gets to vocals or any main beat line.
This usually keeps the seed values for the track and mostly retains sound quality, and sometimes the voice.
Better than rolling random. But I hope they give direct seeds we can input soon.
@@MurphyArtPrints Thanks for the tip!
Good information, thank you. Such a fun thing to mess around with, really gives better idea on how important lyrical structure can be to fit within a song
So glad you enjoyed it!
I did another episode here walking through the entire process of creating a song live with all the problems and solutions I ran into. A.I. music on Suno. Episode 01: Man vs Bear
th-cam.com/video/TvamkhqBA4U/w-d-xo.html
Also.. thank you so much for making this informative video.. i have subscribed and hope to see more in the near future.. 🙏
Thank you!
People seem interested. I may split these off into a second channel and will likely do some videos on the other A.I. music software as well. :)
In the next (imminent) release, Suno is increasing the length of songs from 2mins to 4mins.
That’s going to be a big help. Thank you!!
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Great video. Have you found any ways to prescribe meter within verses? A consistent stumbling block for me is the AI going off on a tangent rhythmically and not following what I want to be the timing of the verse/chorus/etc
Thank you! The meter is really tricky. I found that I had to sometimes change the wording slightly to get it to work - but it's one of the problems I most run into. It would be nice if there was a way to denote how to break up each word/ phrase. I did a video running through the entire process of creating a song where you can see where it works and where it does NOT.
Useful tips there. I have added to the little I know about Suno. Thank you. I never studied music but want to make money by making and distributing AI musing on all streaming platforms. Is this possible with Suno?
If you are paying for the service then according to them, you own the copyright and can distribute the music. You will have to look at using one of the distribution services like CD Baby to get the music on different platforms, but it is possible! You can also have the song playable on Suno but I don’t think they are paying people to stream on their platform.
Wow. This is really awesome. I have been playing around with Suno AI, still haven’t gone to subscription yet. Just an ideas, have you tried using old Scottish Sailor, or Irish folk with the fat guy in a little boat? I did a funny song using something similar…
I did not, but those are good ideas!
@@realmattdean i also saw one last night "Folk Sea Shanty" not sure if that was what you already tried..
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GOD SENT
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I would love to be able to lock in the song but just build up on the lyrics.
because as I hear it I like to make small changes or add some lyrics.
It'll get there
I just put out a new video testing making changes using the extend date n 3.5. It’s not exactly what you’re talking about but it is better!
I uploaded the app after hearing some amazing songs and appreciate your tutorial! Before I try the free version, can you let me know if I can listen to multiple versions of a song before saving? It says it gives 10 coins? Note I'm just doing this for fun, but love things that ignite creativity and love your catchy fat guy in a boat song!
it uses the coins as you create songs, so what they give you will only go a little ways. I'm not sure if it renews the number of coins each day, or monthly or not at all. There seems to be less and less free options in A.I. these days. it's a little more fun to play around with when you know you wont be limited. Have fun making some music!!
@Fatguylittleboat Thank you so much for telling me what you know of it! I really appreciate you!
@@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat glad to help! I've decided to start doing more videos on A.I. Music. I've been having fun with it and decided to share what I've found. Check out the new videos!!! (Matt Dean's A.I. Song Wheel of Destiny!)
Don't worry, it refills daily
I'm curious? The art work "Fat Boy in a Boat", Was that created by Suno? I am intrigued with what I just viewed. I'm a beginner and just found out about Suno a few days ago. Thank you for the lesson. Await your respond re: cover art.
The artwork was created in Firefly from Adobe. It’s pretty good, but still needs some work to get prompts right. It had NO idea how to make a sail boat. 🤣🤣
I assume with upgrades the prompts will become more important.
I'm guessing that as well. We'll do an update video soon looking over what ever new functions they've added.
I just added a new video talking about the way 3.5 is much more responsive to prompts. Big difference.
Is there a way to put iintro music? Suno AI keep start with verse before some intro music...
I had problems with it doing intros as well.
I did a video creating a song from scratch and ran through that exact problem. Perhaps try [instrumental open] as a prompt??
th-cam.com/video/PZUsO5l5AXY/w-d-xo.html
I have an issue, I'm trying to make a drill song with lyrics but the beat never drops when I want it to. More specifically on exactly what lyric I want the beat to drop on. I've tried putting it at the start, at the end and between the last and second-to-last words in the verse. I've also tried putting it every 2nd verse to see if maybe having it after every verse was an issue. Do you have any tips? Thanks in advance
For these types of issues, I recommend taking pieces of the song and see if you can cut them together yourself. The ai still isn’t great with precise directions. Have the ai make the segments you like - and see if you can make it be closer to what you want by editing those pieces in an audio or audio and video software. (DaVinci free version might be good for that). Let me know how it goes!
@@realmattdean Thanks a lot for the advice! I will use your suggestions.
I just added a new video about 3.5 and it’s much better at dealing with descriptive prompts. Things like adding drums and things that you are wanting to do is much better.
Sir, how to add my own tune and get only the music. I have the School Anthem to insert music. Can you help me to go about. Than you.
There is an option of instrumental only on Suno, but it doesn’t have a way to bring in your own music (at least not yet). I’ve heard that one of the other AI services can use music that you bring in. I’ll need to research it further.
@@realmattdean
ok thank you so much. I will be thankful that if you can share with me when you get it. i really need it vey badly. Thanks Sir.
how to get prompt of any song
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[Intro] doesn't work for me. Also, the biggest mystery is if it is possible and how (probably not) to amend the lyrics of a song you've generated. Whilst you can extend on it (i.e. add further verses), you can't just amend a couple of lines and re-generate an existing song with exactly the same voice/music/rhythm. That's something Suno has to work on. Extending from inside a generated song also results in slight variations and the results are not quite the same as the originally generated song. At least in the Russian language I've played with.
Agreed. It has a lot of problems. There doesn’t seem to be a way to tell it that you like certain aspects of a song and tell it not to change those while fixing other parts. It’s very much an “All or nothing” approach to making a song.
I've been trying to make 90s eurobeat dance songs for fun and most of those songs have female vocals with a male rap in one of the later verses... i haven't figured out a way to do this and seems like something that should be pretty simple. i try, like, [male rap verse 2] and it never seems to do anything no matter what i try.
@@OODZUTSU it’s still very problematic when it comes to specifics. It’s seems to like style of song first followed by and details. I did an episode of building a song from beginning to end if you’re interested… A.I. music on Suno. Episode 01: Man vs Bear
th-cam.com/video/TvamkhqBA4U/w-d-xo.html
Intro has worked for me with a couple of sentences or a word that is repeated, when I use only one sentence doesnt work really well.
I feel your pain. LOL! Maybe enough of us who share this complaint can affect a change on the site that remedies the situation?
I'm just trying to figure put how to get the singer on the hook to actually sing and hold a note instead of just saying it
I’ve run into some REALLY weird ones with that. Some times it talks the lyrics (not rap- just talks)… sometimes it repeats or just goes silent. I may make a new video soon to try some new techniques.
Put a multiple of period at the end of your word you want him to hold .... Like that the more dots you add the longer the note holds.
Also the more you thumb up or down your songs the more the AI learns your likes and dislikes
@@SickKiddCrue1980 those are great notes. thanks!
Also if ANYONE enjoys good ole SLEAZE Metal, we will debut our first album on July 1st, please help us out and buy yourself a copy of one hell of a compilation of 16 songs.. available on Amazon, iTunes iHeartRadio and all your platforms..
...oh man I am so far away from music that when (3:19) he said 'this is terrible' i, at the exact time in my mind said 'its sounds good' ...i am now sad b/c of my knowledge/taste in music LOL
Don't go by my taste! If I were better at this I'd be making the big money. If you like it - then that's all that matters!!!
@@realmattdean Thanks for the positive words 🙏
Just put up a new video talking about 3.5. This is a great tool to start learning music. You could end up being the new face of music if it’s something you want to pursue.