I’m going to try and address multiple concerns here. Multiple people have asked how the LS800 compares to the Formovie, the Awol, and the PX1-Pro. This is not a simple question to answer because each projector has its benefits. The main drawbacks to the the LS800 are lack of 4k resolution, no E-ARC, and no Dolby Vision. If you can live without those things you will be rewarded with a very low throw ratio, high brightness, low input lag, and no rainbow effect. It really comes down to your personal preference.
Chris: The world of electronics right now is a “mine-field of competing claims” and abilities”. What I find distressing is whether or not firstly: Does the product live up to the manufacturers HYPE at its price-point? 2) How well does it do in competition against similar products? I think folks get confused by all the hype and buy the product in-belief it will live-up to it. Not always the case. Case in point: Sony got skunked by JVC in the VE long-throw shootout. I wasn’t expecting that result! Obviously Sony’s much heralded proprietary tone-mapping came up quite SHORT vs JVC. (re:base-black) I expect Sony will eventually get around to fixing it, just glad I didn’t put out the cash right now! Phew. Wouldn’t have known without a properly conducted shootout! Thanks for doing what you do collectively.
Thanks for covering the fan noise. I'm quite sensitive to fan noise and the loud fans in these projectors are often not even mentioned. I hope there will be quieter models in the future ...
Chris, if you had to choose between this projector and the ForMovie Theater projector, which would you choose. (I’d be wanting to have a screen size of at least 120”, possibly 150”.) Btw, love your content.
I got the Formovie Theater and it’s great but im not quite happy with the brightness. But the Ls800 not being 4K in 2023 is a deal breaker. I’ll wait until the next update and maybe we can get 4000 lumens and 4k
Was going to order this until I watched your review and saw the no eARC support. After CES 2023 I am excited to wait for June when the Hisense L9H comes out. I look forward to your review when its available to you!
I have a 150 inch screen in a room with windows so the really short throw ratio and super high brightness make this perfect, but not having 4K at that 150" size is a deal breaker. No Dolby vision and no eARC are also big negatives. Almost the perfect UST that I've been waiting for minus those 3 fatal flaws. Going to continue waiting for just the right UST before upgrading my set up. We're getting closer.
Ordering one this week and upgrading from my LS500. Main reason is the throw distance but it’s good to hear it’s got better focus than the 500 with the new lens and better contrast ratio.
Nice video as usual man, What laser UST do you would considerate to buy with 2500 € approximatly? I'm still looking for one and I have the Hisense PX1-Pro on the top. What's your opinion?
Watching this in 2024, Best Buy had a sale on this with with the Epson ALR silver screen. I opted for the 100" screen, and it was a package for $3999. Also getting 3% cash back on my card, plus I went through Rakuten (4%). So essentially I got the projector with the screen for around $3720, which was worth $5500 in 2022.
Great review! Glad to know it can hang with the Formovie Theater in the black levels. Unfortunately If color gamut is part of achieving Dolby vision certification I don't think this will receive it. Not sure what exactly goes in to getting that.
Thank you for the video! We are trying to chose a projector for our rather bright living room so we were thinking about this one. Could you tell us if its possible to ceiling mount this one? Also what maximum screen size would you recommend considering it's not really 4k?
Also you mentioned that Netflix is missing from the appstore. Would that mean that you would not be able to watch Netflix with this projector unless streaming from another device?
@@B4dBuy Netflix faces challenges in revenue sharing with some companies, impacting its availability on many projectors' built-in software. To access Netflix, users may need to utilize alternative streaming devices like firestick, Apple TV, Chromecast, or Roku.
Would you recommend this over the formovie theater? It seems like for UST projectors, the formovie is at the top of the list. Although the brightness of this projector is outstanding.
I don’t understand why he says no 4k on this epson even though they advertise it, i compared picture quality to my 77” inch oled from early 2021 and the quality is pretty close with oled coming on top. Also what would a 4 way pixel shift meant when compared to the 2 way pixel shift this projector has? Thanks
Switched from TV to Projector in 2012, use after seeing a friends during the Super Bowl. Not ideal but always used the projector as the main 120 "TV" in the living room with an ALR screen with good results. Never had anything but Epson, first one was a 2030, then a 4000, and now a LS11000. I use my AVR>Apple TV as the source for everything, in HDR10+, and the picture is really good. These UST projectors look promising, curious how it would compare to my long throw LS11000 in a living room setup. I think the dealbreaker would be the lack of HDR10+, and the HDMI 2.1. The Hisense ones may have it all, but curious if as bright.
Epson has a deal where you can get the 120 inch screen silver flex packaged for 5000 total with the projector. My living is already pretty dark but the deal from epson is something im seriously considering. I know youre sick of this question but how much sharper is the formovie compared to the epson? I will be sitting about 13 feet away from the screen and it would suck if the foremovie would be a noticeably better image
My scenario: Watching movies only at evenings or night. Curtains closed. White ceiling and walls. Project directly on wall, no ALR screen. Prefer big size instead of contrast or clear black color. Epson ls800 vs Formovie theater?
Hi Chris! In this video, what are your left and right speakers shown in the room with daylight? I am looking at this projector but would have an issue with my front left/right tower speakers that could block the image at my TV stand's current height.
Okay so I have a cheap projector. I understand you get what you pay for. But I play Xbox series s and ps5 on it and no matter what I do (move away, tilt screen, or move closer, or mess with the focus) I can only get about 40% clear and everything else is blurry. With this projector, is there a huge blur / picture issue? It’s hard for me to read simple numbers and playing games is basically me in a random room trying to play on memory.
Hey Chris, everything I've read about this project says that it's limited to Rec.709/sRGB but you listed it as being able to display a BT2020 image, could you please double check and let me/us know which one is correct. Thanks
Great video. I've been looking at USTs lately and most of them aren't all that UST as all that. To do a 120 inch screen with a Xgimi or Formovie, the projector has to come out a huge amount from the wall, and even with a low tv bench, the screen literally winds up crammed against the ceiling and is way too high. This is much better, you get way closer and the distance vertically to the bottom of the screen is much more appropriate, so a 120 inch in a normal height room becomes a possibility. I was hoping to get away with a grand less, but... no rainbow effect fears, and hugely easier and neater placement in addition to picture quality like this, I dunno man... maybe I'll buy another Epson. My previous one I had years and years ago.
There are a lot of comment threads trying to find out what happens when you move an ultra short throw projector Past the rated screen. Size... Yet NO ONE has a video about it! Not one. I was going to get an Ultra throw for my church and move it away from wall to get bigger image but I and many other have no idea of it will work. And don't want to drop several thousand to fond out. Can you PLEASE make a video about this and trying to take it up to 300 images pm several projectors so we can all FINALLY have an answer!!
Can I Please use your professional opinion. I’m the market for a UST projector to go along with a Spectra Projection Vantage 150" UST ALR CLR Projector Screen and a Bose 900 sound bar with dual subs and jewel surrounds for my Living room. Would you go with Formovie or Epson LS800? Thank you for your professional opinion.
Hey Chris. I just bought this projector. It’s in my basement. On the floor. Projecting huge on the wall. Must be 150 inch or more. I have lights in the room. No screen. But I read that it looks good in bright rooms. So why is my picture washed up? Any suggestions????
@@ChrisMajestic can you share a link to a good one
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Hi, do you know how to set-up sleep mode for this projector? There is only sleep timer that needs to be set everytime again. Or am I missing something?
Excellent review. I like the fact this can sit closer to the wall and can still produce a large image. Now to determine what will work best .... Epson, Formovie, or AWOL 3500.
Hey so I just got the Samsung the premiere lsp9t 130 inches I paid $4,239 but the one you're reviewing is cheaper and brighter I'm wondering if I did the right choice? I haven't open it yet just got delivered today
wish I could afford this set up... But I am VERY happy with my Epson..? model... It's a 3LCD 720P, but I have bad eyes so even 720P looks good to me at 100", and Epson 3LCD gives such vivid colors, and like you said, no rainbow effect.
I got the Hisense L9G with 120" screen last December on sale for 4,500 at Best Buy. Is this a good upgrade since I have a screen? My only complaint on mine is black levels
I have an L9G and it was a life-changing purchase. It came with the screen (which is awesome and reusable for future models) and it has an amazing picture. If you can snag one cheap, its a no brainer. Only issue, they're a little older now, so its usually a good idea to go with something newer as a general rule.
LS800 is significantly brighter than the Formovie in my testing so if your main concern is brightness over everything else I’d go with the Epson out of those 2.
So a 4x pixel would of meant 4 k @ 120 ? I seen two similar videos on my lg oled and epson 800, the 4 k movie clips i seen on the epson was close to quality of the lg oled 77’’, not the same but close.
Please can someone told me in simple questions if this projector is the best projector for $3500 or there’s out there a better one? How about optoma p1 please someone answer me that question?
Hey bro totally a novice to this arena. I am getting my 1st movie room set up in my house. What recommendation to do have for me to get a really good projector 4k and what size screen and brand in the 100 inch or better ? Also speaker brand…. Thanks 😊
Thanks.... FYI you give the best reviews very helpful.... I'm still shopping for my first ust thinking the ls300 only thing that's turning me off is the throw distance for 120 inch.... If you think of something similar that won't break the bank let me know please.... Hopefully the price drops on this ls800
@@bone56789IMHO don't by the ls300, black levels are not good enought, even on a totaly black surface they are still casting a grey light. Just Got a second hand ls500 for 1000 dollar and even at that price i'm desappointed
@@bone56789 nope, my only experience with UST is with the ls500. If i wasn't sensitive to rainbow effect i would probably have bought the px1 pro, at 2500 it's seems to be the best value for money.
@@ChrisMajestic It'll be interesting to see what happens in 2023. My 2017 LG 65" C6 OLED (with the G series processor because LG was lazy) is starting to suffer serious burn in and brightness loss, but I don't have anything that supports 3D to move to. I was hoping that there would at least be some projectors for the downstairs theatre I have been building. Random, but do you offer consulting services for equipment selection and placement?
my ls800 came in defective out of the box, flashing orange light and shutoff. made me super anxious to give it another shot and got the hisense px1 instead no problems with that so far. but when it did work it was great just cant justify the 3.4k price tag with that kinda scare
the 5050ub only has a max 2600 lumen output. This projector has a max of 4000! Yes, color accurate modes do decrease the lumens on the ls800, but it is still actually brighter in color accurate modes than the 5050ub.
@@ChrisMajesticif possible you can just do a mini comparison with this Epson LS800 I just wished this had 4k and was a triple laser DLP tech, would have solved alot of it's problems
I would like to know as well. This is a single laser, so I'm willing to bet the AWOL can retain it's brightness better after calibration while the Epson has to lower it more. Would be nice for a direct comparison.
3500 ansi lumens for the awol 3500 vs 4000 ansi lumens on the epsonls800, so the epson is brighter. And the awol uses tri laser technology instead of using just one so it achieves better color accuracy. And I spoke with a rep from awol there supposed to be getting dolby vision certified by February 2023 it's already in progress
Chris I gotta know, is the samsung LSP9T still the king of the UST projectors? (i have one and enjoy it. except I don't usually turn it on during the day )
@@ChrisMajestic thanks for the reply. My main concerns would be picture quality. Color, contrast, vivid all the good stuff. I would like it to look like a 100in tv haha
I hate smart projectors and tv’s. I wish they would stop wasting money on these features. What good does it do to have smart apps for content if you cannot output best quality audio over ARC? I gave up on the LS500 Google tv stick which also omitted Netflix. I use the LS500 only as a display device. I use the Roku Ultra as media player - much better. I would like to know if upgrade to the LS800, would I need to replace my screen due to the changed throw ratio?
That’s a fantastic question. I’m not sure if the specs we have for the LS500 are detailed enough for us to determine that. Honestly if I were in your shoes and I planned on getting the LS800 I would just get it and use the LS500 screen. I believe a shorter throw would work just fine.
Unfortunately the comparison comment on the Formovie theatre vs Epson la800 comparison was just a shoutout to Epson to showcase to them now be has an opportunity. So if they want to make sure he doesn’t outshine the FT against the Epson, Epson would need to dish out some cash. What hypocrisy. Vloggers are just not about pure truth they just play the devils advocate. Even the comment below should be clear what he likes and it all came down to the answer “ what you like. “. Sheesh
What are you talking about? I’m ALWAYS completely honest. I’m not being paid by and of these brands. The Formovie looks great in a dark room but not so much during the day because of lack of brightness. On the other hand the Epson is significantly brighter but lacks in a dark room environment and is significantly less sharp with its lack of 4k resolution. What more do you want to know. I personally prefer brighter projectors so I’m leaning more toward the Epson but I haven’t decided which I think is better overall. If I could get more brightness out of the Formovie it would be perfect.
@@ChrisMajestic For the answer above I take my comment back. So basically you prefer the Epson for the brightness over the Formovie because you prefer brightness. Or even though Epson is much brighter you prefer the Formovie over Epson. I guess people are waiting for your opinion in a more precise manner where you weigh heavily upon considering your expertise. Formovie or Epson. Which one is it?
Come on buddy. A heart is not an answer to my question. 😂 even though I have purchased the FM and please note your video was the nail in the coffin as I was split between Epson and FM I chose the FM. So for me it doesn’t matter as I’m done with the purchase but for others I guess it does. So like i asked which one is it. Epson or Formovie. No I the middle answer 😜
@@ice2hotlord relax I was typing. Lol. I understand though. Huge purchase. But with a gun to my head if I had to choose between the two I’d go for the Formovie. It wasn’t perfect but after it warms up it’s significantly sharper than the Epson and has better contrast and black levels. Yes the Epson has a few benefits over the Formovie (brightness, input lag, throw ratio, etc.) but unless you need something super bright the Formovie works very well.
@@ChrisMajesticman some of these guys don’t give you any slack do they? Haha I’m in the process of selling my 83” A90J, trying to get 3k out of it, and then am going to be buying a Formovie Theater with some 120” UST ALR screen(undecided, looking for recommendations) directly from Amazon and I just wanted to say thanks for all of these helpful videos to educate others on the pros and cons of these projectors so we don’t have to figure out something the hard way. Your channel has made me really excited for my first home theater projection experience!
You have competition! Check out Value Electronics short-throw projector “shootout” in which The LG came first and the Epson 800 came THIRD, as I recall but NOT FIRST!
The LS800 is certainly not the best and I never said it was. It is bright though. I gave the L9G my top pick last year. I haven’t released my best ultra short throw video yet.
@@ChrisMajestic Ah Huh . . .! Very good! (LG brought its latest version to the VE shootout a couple of weeks ago. (See Shane Lee who covered it exclusively.) I don’t think the LG product has even been released yet to the public?)
Not the same Buddy not the same. I have a 88 inch oled and doesn't come close to the cinematic effect and immersive feeling that my old epson 3800 on a 150 inch produces
@@ChrisMajestic amen. Even the most expensive 88 inch qoled can't compare to the natural movie like experience that a 120+ projector screen produces. There is just something about the immersive experience. Until a 120+ inch oled under $5k is released, projectors is king.
No I didn't find that video helpful I wanted to know if it's better than the LS 500 and I wanted you to compare side-by-side the LS 500 to the formovie and the LS 500 side by side to the AWOL projector
@@ChrisMajestic thank you for replying I really watch your videos I have a LS 500 and I got my black levels to look real good I had to go to adjustments on the custom and customize it myself it took me a while but people I know see it don't even believe it it's close to a mini LED TV you will have to see it to believe it but out the box just changing the picture settings no you right it's horrible on black levels
@@ChrisMajestic do you still have it I wish I can show you my settings so you can see it in person and maybe you will do a video on it again and show people what it truly can do cuz it was definitely washed out and the black levels was horrible that's why I watch your content because you definitely tell the truth
@@visionsoundelectronics9615 I found no way to get good contrast out of the LS500 without decreasing the overall brightness significantly and bumping the contrast way too high.
@@ChrisMajestic I can definitely show you if you would like it took me a couple of months to figure that out but I have contrast that looks like the formovie but a lot brighter better blacks and better contrast is definitely a way to do it if you can give me a way to get in contact with you and show you exactly what to do I willing to do it because I definitely would like to show you I showed two of my friends and they was blown away they literally asked me how did I figure it out
I’m going to try and address multiple concerns here. Multiple people have asked how the LS800 compares to the Formovie, the Awol, and the PX1-Pro. This is not a simple question to answer because each projector has its benefits. The main drawbacks to the the LS800 are lack of 4k resolution, no E-ARC, and no Dolby Vision. If you can live without those things you will be rewarded with a very low throw ratio, high brightness, low input lag, and no rainbow effect. It really comes down to your personal preference.
#chrismajestic What is your pic for best short throw gaming projector? Or would you recommend Benq 3000i?
@@nathank2838 best overall for gaming is the X3000i. Best UST for gaming is the LS800
Thanks #chrismajestic! Merry Xmas from Australia 🇦🇺 🤶🎄
May I ask which projector has Dolby Vision? Thanks
Chris: The world of electronics right now is a “mine-field of competing claims” and abilities”. What I find distressing is whether or not firstly: Does the product live up to the manufacturers HYPE at its price-point? 2) How well does it do in competition against similar products? I think folks get confused by all the hype and buy the product in-belief it will live-up to it. Not always the case. Case in point: Sony got skunked by JVC in the VE long-throw shootout. I wasn’t expecting that result! Obviously Sony’s much heralded proprietary tone-mapping came up quite SHORT vs JVC. (re:base-black) I expect Sony will eventually get around to fixing it, just glad I didn’t put out the cash right now! Phew. Wouldn’t have known without a properly conducted shootout! Thanks for doing what you do collectively.
Thanks for covering the fan noise. I'm quite sensitive to fan noise and the loud fans in these projectors are often not even mentioned. I hope there will be quieter models in the future ...
Finally! Been waiting for this review!
I hope UST Projectors come down in price in the years to come. Having a huge ass 120'' tv would be awesome.
Chris, if you had to choose between this projector and the ForMovie Theater projector, which would you choose.
(I’d be wanting to have a screen size of at least 120”, possibly 150”.)
Btw, love your content.
I got the Formovie Theater and it’s great but im not quite happy with the brightness. But the Ls800 not being 4K in 2023 is a deal breaker. I’ll wait until the next update and maybe we can get 4000 lumens and 4k
@@damiengvideos4337 THIS!! ☝️☝️☝️
@@PSYCHOV3N0M I thought about it but I already spent my $3k…I’ll wait for a 4K projector that can do 4000+ lumens. Just gonna wait for the next one 😉
Was going to order this until I watched your review and saw the no eARC support. After CES 2023 I am excited to wait for June when the Hisense L9H comes out. I look forward to your review when its available to you!
I have a 150 inch screen in a room with windows so the really short throw ratio and super high brightness make this perfect, but not having 4K at that 150" size is a deal breaker. No Dolby vision and no eARC are also big negatives. Almost the perfect UST that I've been waiting for minus those 3 fatal flaws. Going to continue waiting for just the right UST before upgrading my set up. We're getting closer.
can it even do 150"
I have no complaints with this projector. And if you buy the combo then the 100in Epson screen is a 1000. Epson always delivers.
What do you think about using the VAVA 100 inch projector screen with this projector?
Great review. Thank u for taking the time to do the video. U got a new subscriber
Ordering one this week and upgrading from my LS500. Main reason is the throw distance but it’s good to hear it’s got better focus than the 500 with the new lens and better contrast ratio.
Nice video as usual man, What laser UST do you would considerate to buy with 2500 € approximatly? I'm still looking for one and I have the Hisense PX1-Pro on the top. What's your opinion?
Watching this in 2024, Best Buy had a sale on this with with the Epson ALR silver screen.
I opted for the 100" screen, and it was a package for $3999.
Also getting 3% cash back on my card, plus I went through Rakuten (4%).
So essentially I got the projector with the screen for around $3720, which was worth $5500 in 2022.
Great review! Glad to know it can hang with the Formovie Theater in the black levels. Unfortunately If color gamut is part of achieving Dolby vision certification I don't think this will receive it. Not sure what exactly goes in to getting that.
Thank you for the video! We are trying to chose a projector for our rather bright living room so we were thinking about this one. Could you tell us if its possible to ceiling mount this one? Also what maximum screen size would you recommend considering it's not really 4k?
Also you mentioned that Netflix is missing from the appstore. Would that mean that you would not be able to watch Netflix with this projector unless streaming from another device?
@@B4dBuy Netflix faces challenges in revenue sharing with some companies, impacting its availability on many projectors' built-in software. To access Netflix, users may need to utilize alternative streaming devices like firestick, Apple TV, Chromecast, or Roku.
Would you recommend this over the formovie theater? It seems like for UST projectors, the formovie is at the top of the list. Although the brightness of this projector is outstanding.
Great Review! Now Please do a UST showdown between AWOL 3500, Epson LS800 and Formovie Theater. Thank Chris!
I don’t understand why he says no 4k on this epson even though they advertise it, i compared picture quality to my 77” inch oled from early 2021 and the quality is pretty close with oled coming on top. Also what would a 4 way pixel shift meant when compared to the 2 way pixel shift this projector has? Thanks
How would this compare to the TW9400? Purely on image quality
Switched from TV to Projector in 2012, use after seeing a friends during the Super Bowl. Not ideal but always used the projector as the main 120 "TV" in the living room with an ALR screen with good results. Never had anything but Epson, first one was a 2030, then a 4000, and now a LS11000. I use my AVR>Apple TV as the source for everything, in HDR10+, and the picture is really good. These UST projectors look promising, curious how it would compare to my long throw LS11000 in a living room setup. I think the dealbreaker would be the lack of HDR10+, and the HDMI 2.1. The Hisense ones may have it all, but curious if as bright.
Hey Chris, I’m comparing the LS800 to the Samsung LSP7T, curious your thoughts between the two? Thank you!
Been waiting for this one!
Chris, can you PLEASE do a review of the Acer VL7860?? I think you and your subscribers might be very surprised! 😃😃
What took you so long...been waiting for your take on this. Waiting to hear what you say on the 1100.
Epson has a deal where you can get the 120 inch screen silver flex packaged for 5000 total with the projector. My living is already pretty dark but the deal from epson is something im seriously considering. I know youre sick of this question but how much sharper is the formovie compared to the epson? I will be sitting about 13 feet away from the screen and it would suck if the foremovie would be a noticeably better image
My scenario: Watching movies only at evenings or night. Curtains closed. White ceiling and walls. Project directly on wall, no ALR screen. Prefer big size instead of contrast or clear black color.
Epson ls800 vs Formovie theater?
Hi Chris! In this video, what are your left and right speakers shown in the room with daylight? I am looking at this projector but would have an issue with my front left/right tower speakers that could block the image at my TV stand's current height.
My favorite tv ever
Okay so I have a cheap projector. I understand you get what you pay for. But I play Xbox series s and ps5 on it and no matter what I do (move away, tilt screen, or move closer, or mess with the focus) I can only get about 40% clear and everything else is blurry. With this projector, is there a huge blur / picture issue? It’s hard for me to read simple numbers and playing games is basically me in a random room trying to play on memory.
Hey Chris, everything I've read about this project says that it's limited to Rec.709/sRGB but you listed it as being able to display a BT2020 image, could you please double check and let me/us know which one is correct. Thanks
Great video. I've been looking at USTs lately and most of them aren't all that UST as all that. To do a 120 inch screen with a Xgimi or Formovie, the projector has to come out a huge amount from the wall, and even with a low tv bench, the screen literally winds up crammed against the ceiling and is way too high. This is much better, you get way closer and the distance vertically to the bottom of the screen is much more appropriate, so a 120 inch in a normal height room becomes a possibility. I was hoping to get away with a grand less, but... no rainbow effect fears, and hugely easier and neater placement in addition to picture quality like this, I dunno man... maybe I'll buy another Epson. My previous one I had years and years ago.
Great review!
so which one is the best projector? Samsung Premiere?
What would be the best standard projector for a bright room?
Hey Chris! Can you speak to recommendations on how to best connect home theatre sound to the projector? thanks
There are a lot of comment threads trying to find out what happens when you move an ultra short throw projector Past the rated screen. Size... Yet NO ONE has a video about it! Not one. I was going to get an Ultra throw for my church and move it away from wall to get bigger image but I and many other have no idea of it will work. And don't want to drop several thousand to fond out. Can you PLEASE make a video about this and trying to take it up to 300 images pm several projectors so we can all FINALLY have an answer!!
Can I Please use your professional opinion. I’m the market for a UST projector to go along with a Spectra Projection Vantage 150" UST ALR CLR Projector Screen and a Bose 900 sound bar with dual subs and jewel surrounds for my Living room. Would you go with Formovie or Epson LS800? Thank you for your professional opinion.
How's the sharpness in the corners?
Hey Chris. I just bought this projector. It’s in my basement. On the floor. Projecting huge on the wall. Must be 150 inch or more. I have lights in the room. No screen. But I read that it looks good in bright rooms. So why is my picture washed up? Any suggestions????
It only looks good in a bright room when you have a CLR screen to block the ambient light.
@@ChrisMajestic I have a huge wall and I want to maximize the space. What is the largest screen I can get ?
@@naveen4nse I think 150 is the biggest I’ve seen for CLR
@@ChrisMajestic can you share a link to a good one
Hi, do you know how to set-up sleep mode for this projector? There is only sleep timer that needs to be set everytime again. Or am I missing something?
Excellent review. I like the fact this can sit closer to the wall and can still produce a large image. Now to determine what will work best .... Epson, Formovie, or AWOL 3500.
I would really appreciate such a showdown
That's why there called ultra short throw
Hey so I just got the Samsung the premiere lsp9t 130 inches I paid $4,239 but the one you're reviewing is cheaper and brighter I'm wondering if I did the right choice?
I haven't open it yet just got delivered today
Although expensive, the LSP9T is still solid. It’s significantly sharper than the LS800
Is the LS 800 better than the Formovie ultra short projector?
wish I could afford this set up... But I am VERY happy with my Epson..? model... It's a 3LCD 720P, but I have bad eyes so even 720P looks good to me at 100", and Epson 3LCD gives such vivid colors, and like you said, no rainbow effect.
Would be an absolute no brainer switch from a TW9400 / UB6050 if only it had proper calibration controls. Such an oversight.
21ms input lag for gaming ? Which projector I can have a good quality in gaming? I think 21ms is too high
@chrisMajestic bro will u being doing a review on Awol vision LTV 3500 ?
I got the Hisense L9G with 120" screen last December on sale for 4,500 at Best Buy. Is this a good upgrade since I have a screen? My only complaint on mine is black levels
The L9G is still solid as long as you’re ok with a fixed lens and mediocre black levels. Other than that’s it’s great.
How did you adjust the height of the projector I see you have added some form of extra base. Could you please provide link for that product
I just 3D printed some basic cylinders
That's a cool idea; unfortunately, I don't have a 3D printer. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. Could you please add cylinders dimensions
Can I buy and play Android TV Games on this device? Like minecraft? Or any emulation software like RetroArch?
Which projector would you choose for a living room the Epson or the Hisense L9G?
I have an L9G and it was a life-changing purchase. It came with the screen (which is awesome and reusable for future models) and it has an amazing picture. If you can snag one cheap, its a no brainer. Only issue, they're a little older now, so its usually a good idea to go with something newer as a general rule.
You think they'll add 3D in the future?
Hi Sir, please I’m very confused solve my issue I have only hope on you which one is the best
formovieT1 or Epson LS800 for home use bright room
LS800 is significantly brighter than the Formovie in my testing so if your main concern is brightness over everything else I’d go with the Epson out of those 2.
If u have 2x15" woofers and a lot of base will the screen shake with it?
Any chance you’ll review the Leica Cine 1 laser tv?
Looking forward for the epson ls1100 /1200 review
Not sure why Epson will stick to 2x pixel shifting on this when their latest home cinema line (ls11000/12000) has gone 4x pixel shifting.
So a 4x pixel would of meant 4 k @ 120 ? I seen two similar videos on my lg oled and epson 800, the 4 k movie clips i seen on the epson was close to quality of the lg oled 77’’, not the same but close.
Who wins Epson LS800 or Formovie ?
Does this projector support ARC or eARC? Looks like the HDMI port was only labeled ARC.
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Please can someone told me in simple questions if this projector is the best projector for $3500 or there’s out there a better one? How about optoma p1 please someone answer me that question?
Would this be superior even to OLED displays?
No OLED displays are full native 4k. You get better size with these projectors but you sacrifice image.
Hey bro totally a novice to this arena. I am getting my 1st movie room set up in my house. What recommendation to do have for me to get a really good projector 4k and what size screen and brand in the 100 inch or better ? Also speaker brand…. Thanks 😊
Great video Chris! Wow, great projector. What brand of gray screen are you using in that room? Does it have “sparkle”?
I mentioned it in the intro. There is no sparkle. There is a link to it in the video description
Predecessor??? Don't you mean successor? As in the model that comes after those already in service is typically the successor
Yep totally meant successor.
Dang wish this was 4K! I’m not quite happy with the brightness of the Formovie Theater I bought.
Don’t know you can really tell the difference, even these reviewers will tell you that
Hey Chris do you know of a cheaper ust projector slider besides the one by Spectra for 499
I haven’t seen one yet.
Thanks.... FYI you give the best reviews very helpful.... I'm still shopping for my first ust thinking the ls300 only thing that's turning me off is the throw distance for 120 inch.... If you think of something similar that won't break the bank let me know please.... Hopefully the price drops on this ls800
@@bone56789IMHO don't by the ls300, black levels are not good enought, even on a totaly black surface they are still casting a grey light. Just Got a second hand ls500 for 1000 dollar and even at that price i'm desappointed
Thanks alot... Are you familiar with the vava 4k?
@@bone56789 nope, my only experience with UST is with the ls500. If i wasn't sensitive to rainbow effect i would probably have bought the px1 pro, at 2500 it's seems to be the best value for money.
Does it have inverse image functionality
Nice. But, at this price point, dying, dead, or not, 3D capability should be a must for all of these 4k projectors.
Odd question but what would be the best modern projector that supports passive 3D? Are there ANY new models left? Gotta get my Avatar on. :D
I can’t think of any passive 3d projectors off the top of my head
@@ChrisMajestic Active 3D then? Does active 3D still degrade brightness compared to passive?
@@ChrisMajestic Also thank you for responding!
Yes active will reduce brightness pretty significantly. There are a few options but not many
@@ChrisMajestic It'll be interesting to see what happens in 2023. My 2017 LG 65" C6 OLED (with the G series processor because LG was lazy) is starting to suffer serious burn in and brightness loss, but I don't have anything that supports 3D to move to. I was hoping that there would at least be some projectors for the downstairs theatre I have been building. Random, but do you offer consulting services for equipment selection and placement?
my ls800 came in defective out of the box, flashing orange light and shutoff. made me super anxious to give it another shot and got the hisense px1 instead no problems with that so far. but when it did work it was great just cant justify the 3.4k price tag with that kinda scare
"with that kinda scare"
Tell me you're too lazy to get an exchange without telling me you're too lazy to get an exchange.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M guess you missed the part where i exchanged it
How tall are your ceilings?
9ft
Color accurate modes on ls800 lack a lot of brightness in comparison to 5050ub.
Looks like 5050ub will be a viable option for few more years.
the 5050ub only has a max 2600 lumen output. This projector has a max of 4000! Yes, color accurate modes do decrease the lumens on the ls800, but it is still actually brighter in color accurate modes than the 5050ub.
For the price and features i still prefer my Wemax D30. I dont care what the box looks like. I look for quality in image.
Epson LS 8000 v. The LG UST ?
Can you do a video on the Awol LTV 3500
It’s coming soon.
@@ChrisMajesticif possible you can just do a mini comparison with this Epson LS800
I just wished this had 4k and was a triple laser DLP tech, would have solved alot of it's problems
I think you meant LS800 is the “Successor” not “Predecessor” to the LS500.
Good catch. I wrote successor and read predecessor 🤣🤣
No eARC? How’s that possible
Is the Awol 3500 brighter?
I would like to know as well. This is a single laser, so I'm willing to bet the AWOL can retain it's brightness better after calibration while the Epson has to lower it more. Would be nice for a direct comparison.
3500 ansi lumens for the awol 3500 vs 4000 ansi lumens on the epsonls800, so the epson is brighter. And the awol uses tri laser technology instead of using just one so it achieves better color accuracy. And I spoke with a rep from awol there supposed to be getting dolby vision certified by February 2023 it's already in progress
The Epson is brighter. The awol is sharper.
@@ChrisMajestic did you see the lghu710p yet?
Chris I gotta know, is the samsung LSP9T still the king of the UST projectors? (i have one and enjoy it. except I don't usually turn it on during the day )
The LSP9T got 4th place in the UST shootout earlier this year. Don't think it's ever been the "King" but I'm sure it's still great.
It's so disappointing that Russian has pretty much abandoned 3d support. That may be the deciding factor for me.
How is this compared to the px1 pro?
The PX1-pro produces a 4k image and supports e-arc. If you care about those things then you may prefer the PX1-pro.
@@ChrisMajestic thanks for the reply. My main concerns would be picture quality. Color, contrast, vivid all the good stuff. I would like it to look like a 100in tv haha
Sounds like you’re looking for something super bright. That’s going to be the LS800
Whew, almost regretted my AWOL purchase, till you said No 3D. Projector manufacturers are goofing up, without 3D they are out of the running.
Waiting on an Awol Vision 3500 Review
I was going to pull the trigger on this but it doesn’t have 3D. Yes I’m one of the few 3D fans out there. Shame.
Hell yeah
I hate smart projectors and tv’s. I wish they would stop wasting money on these features. What good does it do to have smart apps for content if you cannot output best quality audio over ARC? I gave up on the LS500 Google tv stick which also omitted Netflix. I use the LS500 only as a display device. I use the Roku Ultra as media player - much better.
I would like to know if upgrade to the LS800, would I need to replace my screen due to the changed throw ratio?
That’s a fantastic question. I’m not sure if the specs we have for the LS500 are detailed enough for us to determine that. Honestly if I were in your shoes and I planned on getting the LS800 I would just get it and use the LS500 screen. I believe a shorter throw would work just fine.
Roku Sucks
@@cordcuttercam I agree it is not for everyone lol
@@cordcuttercam hey, what do you use for streaming? Or should I ask, what do you like to use?
@@ottoburgess1555 I use a firestick 4k and get all free movies and tv shows
Android TV ? LS500 has it
Still cant hold a single candle against QLED or quantum OLEDs..
So a 4K, 3D , eARC projector from Epson is the... ?
They don’t have any 4k and 3d options.
$3500 without 4k seems nuts
Pixel shifting?! 🤮✌️🇺🇲
UHD is 8 million pixels. This is another situation of Epson using numbers to misrepresent their products.
Unfortunately the comparison comment on the Formovie theatre vs Epson la800 comparison was just a shoutout to Epson to showcase to them now be has an opportunity. So if they want to make sure he doesn’t outshine the FT against the Epson, Epson would need to dish out some cash. What hypocrisy. Vloggers are just not about pure truth they just play the devils advocate. Even the comment below should be clear what he likes and it all came down to the answer “ what you like. “. Sheesh
What are you talking about? I’m ALWAYS completely honest. I’m not being paid by and of these brands. The Formovie looks great in a dark room but not so much during the day because of lack of brightness. On the other hand the Epson is significantly brighter but lacks in a dark room environment and is significantly less sharp with its lack of 4k resolution. What more do you want to know. I personally prefer brighter projectors so I’m leaning more toward the Epson but I haven’t decided which I think is better overall. If I could get more brightness out of the Formovie it would be perfect.
@@ChrisMajestic For the answer above I take my comment back. So basically you prefer the Epson for the brightness over the Formovie because you prefer brightness. Or even though Epson is much brighter you prefer the Formovie over Epson. I guess people are waiting for your opinion in a more precise manner where you weigh heavily upon considering your expertise. Formovie or Epson. Which one is it?
Come on buddy. A heart is not an answer to my question. 😂 even though I have purchased the FM and please note your video was the nail in the coffin as I was split between Epson and FM I chose the FM. So for me it doesn’t matter as I’m done with the purchase but for others I guess it does. So like i asked which one is it. Epson or Formovie. No I the middle answer 😜
@@ice2hotlord relax I was typing. Lol. I understand though. Huge purchase.
But with a gun to my head if I had to choose between the two I’d go for the Formovie. It wasn’t perfect but after it warms up it’s significantly sharper than the Epson and has better contrast and black levels. Yes the Epson has a few benefits over the Formovie (brightness, input lag, throw ratio, etc.) but unless you need something super bright the Formovie works very well.
@@ChrisMajesticman some of these guys don’t give you any slack do they? Haha I’m in the process of selling my 83” A90J, trying to get 3k out of it, and then am going to be buying a Formovie Theater with some 120” UST ALR screen(undecided, looking for recommendations) directly from Amazon and I just wanted to say thanks for all of these helpful videos to educate others on the pros and cons of these projectors so we don’t have to figure out something the hard way. Your channel has made me really excited for my first home theater projection experience!
Extremely disappointed that this isn’t 3D capable. Deal breaker.
Ok
Mitchell Isle
You have competition! Check out Value Electronics short-throw projector “shootout” in which The LG came first and the Epson 800 came THIRD, as I recall but NOT FIRST!
The LS800 is certainly not the best and I never said it was. It is bright though. I gave the L9G my top pick last year. I haven’t released my best ultra short throw video yet.
@@ChrisMajestic Ah Huh . . .! Very good! (LG brought its latest version to the VE shootout a couple of weeks ago. (See Shane Lee who covered it exclusively.) I don’t think the LG product has even been released yet to the public?)
a ton of money for average picture without 2.1 eArc, Dolby Vision, no 4K. Best way to purchase a LG OLED.
Not the same Buddy not the same. I have a 88 inch oled and doesn't come close to the cinematic effect and immersive feeling that my old epson 3800 on a 150 inch produces
Although the fact that it’s missing DV, 4K, and HDMI 2.1 are a bummer you can’t compare 88 inches to 100 to 150 inches. That’s a huge difference.
@@ChrisMajestic amen. Even the most expensive 88 inch qoled can't compare to the natural movie like experience that a 120+ projector screen produces. There is just something about the immersive experience. Until a 120+ inch oled under $5k is released, projectors is king.
Nope, best way to purchase the Formovie Theater, which I own and is amazing. Even using a $280 100in alr screen.
@@ChrisMajestic what about the awol ltv 3500
No I didn't find that video helpful I wanted to know if it's better than the LS 500 and I wanted you to compare side-by-side the LS 500 to the formovie and the LS 500 side by side to the AWOL projector
The LS500 isn’t even close to this projector. The throw ratio and black levels of the LS500 were terrible.
@@ChrisMajestic thank you for replying I really watch your videos I have a LS 500 and I got my black levels to look real good I had to go to adjustments on the custom and customize it myself it took me a while but people I know see it don't even believe it it's close to a mini LED TV you will have to see it to believe it but out the box just changing the picture settings no you right it's horrible on black levels
@@ChrisMajestic do you still have it I wish I can show you my settings so you can see it in person and maybe you will do a video on it again and show people what it truly can do cuz it was definitely washed out and the black levels was horrible that's why I watch your content because you definitely tell the truth
@@visionsoundelectronics9615 I found no way to get good contrast out of the LS500 without decreasing the overall brightness significantly and bumping the contrast way too high.
@@ChrisMajestic I can definitely show you if you would like it took me a couple of months to figure that out but I have contrast that looks like the formovie but a lot brighter better blacks and better contrast is definitely a way to do it if you can give me a way to get in contact with you and show you exactly what to do I willing to do it because I definitely would like to show you I showed two of my friends and they was blown away they literally asked me how did I figure it out
$2k for a screen is fucking ridiculous.
It‘s just a damn shame that most shows/hollywood movies are either bad and or woke nowadays