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In this video we calculate some more meaningful metrics which tell us much more about the impact of a player compared to K/D, rating, or KDA to help us end the debate once and for all on who the best Valorant player was in 2023.
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yo, at the start of the video, you showed a piece of code with if statements and methods to calculate the impact and ratings of players. For this, does the code also directly take in data from the matches or do you have to import the data as a spreadsheet/vlr link? Also, is there anyway to share the code to read?
@@Flashfirexdd It just parses a spreadsheet provided to my by Augment.gg. I can give you a snippet here which is what I used to calculate one of the first graphs: paste.ofcode.org/zcTcBs6fx87Q3w4trFkhwd. I saw some others ask about this so in the future I may consider doing some BTS for how I conduct these analyses. Thanks for the comment!
@@platoonval thanks
Why wasn’t Lock/In used in the data set? I feel the charts might look different I think Chronicle especially (although not best player contender) is pulled down by his poorer performance at Champions compared to Masters and Lock/in and more data would be better + I’m interested to see how it changes the data. Is there anyway you could compare/publish the data with lock/in added?
Jingg also received #1 player in APAC award this year itself, its sad to know he wont play in 2024(i literally copy paste his playstyle, res etc)
Jingg has been the best 1st and 2nd entry of PRX with his trading and entry...when something was included he could focus more on 2nd entry and helped the team.
Jeremy > Jingggg noob
@@AldricBenjie sure
@@AldricBenjieI’m pinoy but I ain’t that delusional, Jinggg literally gets copied by everyone
@@AldricBenjie you're probably the reason why Filipinos get a bad rep when it comes to "Pinoy Pride"
I think Jinggg is also the most entertaining player to watch. He is the craziest player I've ever seen and it looks so fun to watch. I think no one can copy his playstyle
I would say smthg is pretty close to him. Watching them demolished others while doing crazy stuff were fun as heck
@@zadsazhad yeah something is pretty close too and crazy fun but sometimes when i watch jinggg his movement is something else. it's always jinggg airlines and he's using raze not jett xD
True! I think ppl confuse crazy aim/flicks with insanity playstyle. Jingg has crazy aim but his movement is what sets him apart. Sometimes is not a movement player so much, but has movement.@@0blivianne
jawgemo on raze is underrated
@@ImPerkkk Ah yes PRX Sometimes, the crazy Russian Jett
Nice video i appreciate your effort 👏
Holy it's him! Appreciate the comment and goodluck next season!!!
yowww, It's Cned. good luck next season Broo, even tho i root for other team but i cant ignore amazing talent like youu.
cned!!!!!
It is kinda sad, that Jingg can't play in 2024😢😢
Is he taking a break? I thought Jingg was srraigjt up retiring
@@kiowaflyboy hes gotta do military service. but he said he is 100 going to come back after. if hes not washed by then
he said he was going to pursue university after and probably leave the professional scene@@mr.miyagi9004
@@mr.miyagi9004depends on how long is -Indonesia- Singapore’s obligatory military service, 1 year? 2 years? If it’s just one year I think he can get back to the top
its 2 years@@Lucaz99
The entirety of PRX (especially Jinggg and F0rsaken tho) is so god damn good!
This duo is just sooooo impactful.
I mean, Something is really good mechanically, but I think he lacks a bit of good decision making.
@@Spicyyy832hmm idk about that, I seen games where jing usually the one to overheat more
@@Spicyyy832 Something's decision making is actually a lot better than Jinggg. Nothing against Jinggg, bt he is a more "tell me what to do, and I'll do it perfectly" kind of player. He's also one of the 3 players who calls mid rounds for the team(forsaken and davai being the other 2)
In a few important series(Loud and EG upper Finals), Something was doing the mid-round calls for a few rounds. One of the notable ones being in Lotus map against Loud, where all of PRX flooding in through rotating doors into Viper ult and winning thrifty. He is a very intelligent player
@@maibigbutt3746 yeah, actually Jinggg overheats a lot. You’re right, my friend. And I truly believe he’s (smth) quite intelligent (didn’t know about the mid round calls by him)
The only thing is sometimes I don’t understand why he doing certain things, especially when oping.
@@waytun9608 true that, Jinggg is a crazy dude.
you shouldve done a stat of how much their deaths "decrease" their winrate with the same matric and subtracted it with the impact to show real impact. someone can get a lot of winning kills for their team but also a lot of losing deaths. for example if your team is up 5v4 and you die you make the round 20% more winnable for the other team, because you lose the advantage for your team and go from 70% chance to win to 50%.
Someone else commented this and I agree it would be good to include death stats as well! Certainly will look to do something of the sort in the future.
dayym this would have been genuis
Yep. This was a huge discussion for Jingg in the APAC region considering he died first a lot
After thinking about it here's my response that I also posted in the thread but can't pin because I have to keep my sponsor up 😄:
A lot of people have commented on considering deaths as impact lost into the last statistic and here are my thoughts on it after thinking for a bit:
It's certainly a great point but the issue is that impact of a kill if traded does not become 0. In fact, many top players have the opinion that an entry who gets the first kill and dies is very valuable, because they took initiative, challenged space, gained info, and then started the chain of trades where your team is much more likely to come out on top. It's true that a kill that isn't traded is "worth more", but how much more? In the end it's better to just treat them all the same and let the statistics balance themselves out instead of applying an artificial value.
What do I mean by balancing itself out? If you think about it, when you live later on into a match, you inherently will have the opportunity for more important kills. For example, if you kill every single player bringing the round from a 5v5 to a 5v0, you only earn 50% impact, but if you clutch a 1v1, you immediately gain 50% impact for winning. The statistic naturally balances out these situations.
@@platoonvalyou should’ve atleast included in traded deaths then as a 4th statistic just to see who throws the most and the least.
it is really cool that aspas not being that important if doing bad or good reflexes on Loud's playstyle. Aspas goes first, he usually gets all the important kills, but if he doesn't, the other players can get the job done (also bc he is traded a lot)
that’s actually why i think he’s the most valuable player in the world
every single round LOUD play is opened up by aspas in some way, either directly by frags or indirectly by the space he takes
He got traded😢
@@crackjee9301Lmao he did didnt he
jinggg was crazy in his individual performance, but like you said, teamwork is so important, and EG had such a stronger teamwork-based style of gameplay that unfortunately PRX just never stood a chance
they just lost the final match , dont forget they beat EG in semi's
@@divam_delusional_GE_fan unfortunately their individual performances weren't what they needed to secure the championship, I'm sure they gave it their best tho
@@divam_delusional_GE_fanEG were always better than PRX
They should've won Upper finals if they didn't choke an 11-6 lead
EG winning despite PRX having 2 map bans shows how insane they were
@@king_thanos_2116 EG is insanse , but fundamentally . PRX's weakness is their own style, they can't dominate a map with their hyper aggressive-ness as said by Alecks himself. Hence why it doesn't really matter as much even if they have a 2 map advantage . They even lost the 1st 2 maps against DRX in the Pacific Final . The next step towards their evolution is probably improving their pistols and truly hammer down a certain map to be their own like EG's Fracture.
@@king_thanos_2116the map bans were never important. prx and eg are both bad at haven, so that ban was irrelevant, and prx fracture was arguably their best map, which they had to ban because eg’s was just better, so both teams were essentially even
Can we take a moment to appreciate platoons incrdible effort to make this video, he litterally examined every single aspect and took carefull consideration of each and every detail. I just wanted to say thank you and keep up the Amazing work!
The last statistic was really interesting but i would've loved if you also did it the other way around and saw how much they decreased their chance of winning. Then added the two numbers together. Idk if u understood this cause im not good at explaining things:)
Do you mean based on their deaths?
Interesting ideas guys! I'll definitely look to do some more death-related stats in the future!
@@platoonvalmaybe Assist would be also important. Idk
@@lukyschmunzel1888 Very true I originally wanted to include assists in the impact calculation but was not able to discern it from my data. Hopefully in the future!
@@platoonvalI think adding up deaths is really important to level it out, mistakes lose rounds and are as important as good plays that win rounds. On top of that, teams with more rounds won in total may be skewing the data? From all the teams you analyzed you'd have to level it out to for example the highest common number. If a team won 340 rounds and lost 310, then analyzing 310 wins and losses would make sense. Otherwise a team that lost more as a whole may have lower percentage of 'round winning impact kills' across the board, and it depends on who they played against, etc.
I'm only half way through the video and this already the best Valorant video I have ever watched. Could you imagine if these stats were tracked for everyone during every ranked match. Would be so helpful. Thanks for this video, seemed very difficult to make.
Already missing Jinggg for this year :(
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hats off to you bro thats some heavy analysis and talks volumes about the hours you put in. You have me hooked
wow my man back up his answer with data and statistic like a scientist. nice work!
Even if all this data is public, it’s still extremely interesting to see you compile it all, give your opinion, and see how much I underestimated some players
(Mostly just underestimated Jing)
I also underestimated Jinggg to be honest since he was never in any discussions but was pleasantly surprised when looking at the data myself!
if only prx win champions, everyone would think jingg is the best player in the world. EG winning doesn't do much for valorant, especially with that scummy org behind them
same, I didn't know jing was this impactful
Great video. Honestly super agree with the take that "best player" don't mean jack to win trophies.
Although, my bias says Something becoming the most high impactful player next year.... Guy had a few shaky maps during his first LAN event, and I hope he can play to his maximum potential
FNS watch this vid yesterday on twitch (check vods at 43:00). He skipped the stats and watched the conclusion. Picked alfajer, aspas, and Less as the hardest one to kill and the most impactful. He also chose alfa, leo, aspas, Less, demon1 as the best player. But any of the prx player can be on top 5, too.
Thanks for the vid and hard work. I see alot of potential for some of the players. Next year is gonna be more fun!
i think having 4 EG players at the bottom of the list at 7:53 shows just how consistent they are as a team. no one player has to hard carry their way through the games, and teamwork in this case really does wonders for EG
edit: didnt go forward at all, just heard you mention it. oops lol
As a data analyst and an avid fan of Valorant Esports this video made me feel things ❤
A lot of people have commented on considering deaths as impact lost into the last statistic and here are my thoughts on it after thinking for a bit:
It's certainly a great point but the issue is that impact of a kill if traded does not become 0. In fact, many top players have the opinion that an entry who gets the first kill and dies is very valuable, because they took initiative, challenged space, gained info, and then started the chain of trades where your team is much more likely to come out on top. It's true that a kill that isn't traded is "worth more", but how much more? In the end it's better to just treat them all the same and let the statistics balance themselves out instead of applying an artificial value.
What do I mean by balancing itself out? If you think about it, when you live later on into a match, you inherently will have the opportunity for more important kills. For example, if you kill every single player bringing the round from a 5v5 to a 5v0, you only earn 50% impact, but if you clutch a 1v1, you immediately gain 50% impact for winning. The statistic naturally balances out these situations.
Appreciate the amazing quality and analysis done on the game and keeping me hooked even when I don't play the game anymore!
I feel like the use of utility, which can't be quantified, is what make "valorant best player" debate actually pointless. If there was a way to calculate statistics of for example "how the use of utility helps to win rounds for the team, per player" and have like "weighted averages" considering utility is used different regarding team roles (duelist/initiators/sentinels), it would give a sense of a complete comparison between players, not just regarding kills or death. That's why for me, Leo is top 5: His usage of utility is second to none in my opinion
As you said in the video "the best team will always triumph over the best player" and that is what makes valorant, valorant.
Phenomenal work!
Amazing analysis!
Yay in 2022 was such a beast, I don't think any other player will ever come close to what he did that year. He's got to be the best player ever.
Aspas
He was really good in the year he was the best player but GOAT conversations require a longer period of consistency.
Basically 5 years at a very high level is better than 1 super dominant year.
But I think yay has the chance to make a comeback this year with Bleed. If he performs well, maybe he can get back to the top.
cned 2021
Leo has already surpassed him😂 leo had better stats in 2023, also won more trophies and mvp titles
valorant in 2022 was much weaker than 2023 as well
Aspas is becoming the GOAT, we need consistency.
Since CNed was this high in 2023 I am really curious on what his stats looked like in 2021, when he actually won Champs.
The fact cned was so impactful and yet Navi was so poor, doesn’t fill me with a lot of confidence for Navi 2024. Although their championship run under FPX in 2022 would also be interesting to analyze.
@@Lucaz99 they will be better this year for sure you could tell they didn't know how to play with CNed.
@@Lucaz99as we know from eg, it's the team cohesion that matters more than single player impact. So maybe Navi would be better, we just have to wait and see.
@@Jinx-iw6zb that’s a good point. But even though EG didn’t have the best players, they still had really good individual players, good coordination AND Potter who scouted the entire team and was their coach.
Only time will tell with Navi tho.
@@Lucaz99 you can just tell that NAVI had role issues just like how NRG faced the issue this year. Ardiis being back stabilizes the role in the team and he can fix ange1's trolling sensation now
Great video! One thing I’d suggest considering is counting in the importance of getting a kill on a certain player, getting the first blood and etc. For example, LOUD lose 80%+ of rounds where Aspas dies first. This means that getting the first blood specifically on Aspas increases your chances of winning that specific round in a 5v4 scenario by more than 20%. Would be fun to look at those results and who knows, maybe even see a drastic change?
Feels bad for cNed with how much navi did him dirty. The team single handedly ruined his year.
Def. a interesting take on the topic. I was actually thinking a lot about all this. In my eyes and after searching through like tons of statistics, one name always comes up in most important ratings: Leo. Dude can shoot, dude can clutch, he has a lot of impact on almost every game with kills, utils and assists, he's gaining a lot of info, anchoring like hell, delying the whole game or speeding it up when necessary - simply an insanely smart player and in my eyes the currently best one in the world.
i dont know if you currently have plans for this or not but a video like this as a yearly update on player statistics would be awesome!
You deserve way more recognition for making such quality, in depth and high effort content, keep it up
I think a lot of people missed the take away from the video. There cannot be a “best” or most “impactful” player, because there are so many stats that can and cannot be measured. It is essential your duelist know how to entry (ranked duelist don’t…) it is essential your initiators know the timing on their util (ranked initiators don’t…) it is essential that your controllers take charge in controlling the map effectively (ranked controllers don’t…) it’s essential that your sentinels hold wide areas of map control and gather passive info (ranked sentinels don’t…). Because everyone of those jobs are so unique, you simply cannot verify a “most impactful” player. To win you need everything to piece together in a beautiful blend, which, may dilute the stats. Controllers and initiators typically do your mid round clutches. While duelist are normally your early round frags, with sentinels being your late round clutches. Your role is important at different points in the round leading to part of the statistical conundrum.
Exactly the best teams never have the most standout player because they all do their jobs so phenomenally. That will always make for a better team than one with a standout star!
When im watching a movie and a character says "if we have better teamwork, we can beat players better then us" ill stop rolling my eyes cause this vid actually proved it WTH
this video and the data here are what the analytics guys salivate for. holy shit man, you did a great job. sadly, jingggg is on his way to retirement. though those other players you mentioned, including giants' cloud, are worth looking out for next season. cheers bro
Just wanted to say thank you for the wonderful research
Eg didn’t need one player that’s why they did so good each member had enough value to be great but not too much to be needed
Such a wonderful analysis! Loved it! Great work Platoon! Can we get these statistics for TenZ as well though!?
I'll consider it as a future idea!
Big asterisk on best fighter in the world. The stats are all about kills and trades, etc. really hard to see behind the scenes on who has impact in terms of comms and other stats that aren’t measurable
For sure there will always be things we can't measure but one step at a time we strive to get closer to the truth!
What a cool and well crafted video! Love how you bring factual statistics without making it monotuous. Pretty good!!
I really like what you're doing here and thought this was a great idea for a video! I've been watching you since that NRG video and I really think you've improved your game since then.
Very good video, only stat i would maybe add are the actual first deaths, because the more important it is for you to stay alive the worse every first death gets
platoon is really out here giving us a valorant scientific study for free 😭 amazing breakdown!!
I think the value of Leo isn't really shown in this video. The first stat is quite misleading as Leo has one of the Lowest death ratios in all of VCT, including FD ratio. On top of this Leo's KAST is ridiculously high, meaning when he dies he has done at least some impact in almost every round. This is something not highlighted here at all as not dying in a round or only dying when necessary is not valued. On top of that Leo is rarely someone to completely pop off in a game, the only times he's really needed to is in game which Fnatic are struggling, the value of Leo comes in his ability to not only set up his teammates, but also consistently do so, as he rarely dies. On top of this because of your statistics getting FKs is really important, but what this means is that you will commonly overvalue duelists, as you never even look into the assists at all. Something like FK assists is also extremely important then as, especially in pro play, an assist can be the only reason that kill every even happened, like if a player is revealed behind a wall, stunned or flashed. I just think alot of these stats don't highlight the positives of a player like Leo, as alot of the stats you looked at doesn't consider quantity at all, as f.ex the amount of round where Leo dies first for Fnatic is so ridiculously low
really appreciate the takeaway at the end of the video; it's easy to overlook the fact that your own impactful kills may directly deny potential "impact points" for the rest of your team.
bro ive seen many people try play like jinggg and fail miserably, i tried myself and i am a bot, but when i play like a suygetsu or leo or a chronicle style which is more supportive or even a yay style where he isnt as aggressive as a jinggg, i peform better
its really shows jinggg is a one of a kind player, to be that impactful whilst playing an almost forsure geturself killed style
sad he wont be there for paper rex 2024, its going to leave a huge gap for monyet to fill and others to also fill (i think something will improve since this was his rookie year)
I cant imagine the amount of research to make this video
I do think agent pick also determine how good a player can be.
The hardest thing to quantify and notice is utility usage
This video was so incredibly interesting and well made. Amazing work!
I think this is very cool, and makes me want to get my hands on the data to mess around with it. I think that analysis does somewhat seem to undervalue utility. Since teams are pretty much static, it would be possible to explain a lot of the kills as being in large part from good utility. While capitalizing on the util is important, I think that the way the data is interpreted here over-emphasizes it. Generally the reason that Leo is brought up as the "best" is because he "makes the fewest mistakes". Even though Jingg and Aspas do great, the value of not using util at bad times and vise versa can be more impactful overall.
I have no idea what the best way to measure would be, but perhaps also comparing each player's winrates in XvY scenarios against the average would be interesting. It would also provide some balance for the non-dive and non-contact roles against the first blood stats.
Really interesting video brother. Well explained and appreciate all the effort that went into it. Keep it up man!
This is such a different way of analysing compared to just looking at stats off VLR. Great video!
I feel like it's hard to implement and quantify this but the value being an IGL/not being one brings should in a way work as some little bonus points for them. Fantastic vid tho !
While the video is very interesting I do feel like a lot of important statistics can't be calculated in a good way, to name a few:
Bringing a 1v5 to a lost 1v2 might not win you a round, but could be massive depending on the economy and clutching a pistol round probably leads to another round win.
Another important statistic is utility, kills might win you rounds, but good utility gives kills.
And then there are the two that I feel are the least talked about but also most important, shot calling and mentality, shot callers are the core of the team, and staying calm under pressure is in my opinion the most important skill.
Insane amount of work put into this video. I feel like many of these stats are even more impactful if you look at just a single team that played the same games. I think it would be a good way to actually analyze team styles and would be a major step in valorant analysis.
these stats show who is the best player for the team they play on. like the most perfectly fitted player to a teams playstyle
this is a good video, good analysis.. wow... so good to see a metrics based on data
Great video, very informative.
My rushed conclusions after watching this video is
- EG is shit org, potter is goated
- Alfajer is the most impactful player in Fnatic
- PRX lost their most impactful player, Monyet has big shoes to fill
- Less is more but losing Aspas can’t be underestimated
- Lev going to be fire with Aspas & King
- Navi is going to miss every international LAN if Ardlis plays like the 2023 version of himself and not the 2022 one
Cauanzin stats is very impressive, probably one of the most underrated players today.
Nice video bro, cNed’s last stat is incredible when you think about that. It shows that he has the potential to be the best and be champion in a lot of tournaments but his team was holding him back 😢 hope he will do better in FUT
This is a crazy amount of effort
this is what expected when someone say hisself "Thinking Valorant". Thank you for the great work, hope see it more in future
you arent accounting for first deaths, the top five are basically all duelists because the FK is really important (because of how drastically it improves WR, especially nowadays were teams are getting so good at 4v5 conversion). you should also calculate how many times they failed in getting that kill and maybe also look at who got assists for the kills. (although what counts as assists in game might not be the most accurate measure)
- i should have read the comment section first like 100 people already pointed this out
Yeah I responded about the deaths not actually being a great thing to add, but I fully believe if I was able to add assists (planned to but couldn't since the data doesn't have it yet) it would give a great full picture.
congrats bro, that's an amazing data analysis
Yay felt like that one hidden character in a fighting game select screen that you only unlock by doing
⬆️➡️⬅️➡️⬆️⬅️🅰️🅰️🅱️🅰️
Still hidden.
ok but the fact that losing one guy gives 70+ percent chance to lose is crazy. especially when some of these guys play duelists (it makes sense on atk tho)
This might be one of your best videos. This thought process is really good
Another player I think is up there is F0rsaken, he's almost always near the top the of the scoreboard and can play pretty much any agent his team needs him to.
Absurd content the amount of research put in this video is insane you have my subscription
yay has those unbreakable wilt chamberlain numbers
😂
i love that in almost every graph there's that 'yay in 2022' that pops up.
bro was like Jordan in his prime
Great video! Keep up the good work!
For me it's difficult to choose just one of the best of this year so aspas, jingg, Less and alfajer
forsaken jingg and something r my personal favourites mainly because their agressive playstyle players dont get me wrong leo derke ect are nuts aswell but in terms of entertainment factor prx just takes the cake fnatic be just showing up to win which is respectable i would aswell in there shoes, also the versitility on prx is nuts which is why i think their so consitant 2 2nds in a row is rough
very informative! also i will really miss jinggg next year 😩
The first statistics shows the strategy aswell, demon1 was plugged into an already existing team, but loud had strategies arounf aspas entering and going nuclear.
The amount of effort you put into your videos is insane. Do you watch every vod or do you just look at vlr/augment stats?
I watch most vods, especially during bracket stages but it's impossible to get to everything 😅
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Jinggg was already my favourite, now he's my GOD.
Best overall Duelist in valorant history
Yay stat was so high because he is the best chamber in the world but once chamber gone, he fall from grace incredibly quickly since his jett is mid and he cant play raze unlike aspas or derke
I would love to see this kind of stats automatized in some app about ranked games. Great job and great vid
I'd be super interested to see a death counterpart to the last statistic. that is largely weighted toward duelists because they take the most first engagements and second in because they can trade and bring it back to even, neutralizing the advantage, however those players are also far more likely to give up the advantage to the other team. one of the reasons leo is so good is because he is almost never first dead, and contributes the least advantage to the other team by dying, regardless of the advantage he gains for the team. If you had a statistic that weighed these against each other that would probably be the most indicative statistic of a players value i can think of and i'd be shocked if yay 2022 didnt top this list by a mile. great video though! i love these types of complex number analysis videos for digging up more information than is obvious!
Really enjoyable video to watch! Very insightful and I can't imagine how much effort went into constructing your analysis! Definitely will continue to keep an eye out for similar videos of yours in my feed, thank you!!
such an insightful watch, keep up the incredible content seriously
I'm so glad that JJing is the top spot on this list, I've always watched PRX and this is also the impression I've always had.
PRX was such a perfect mix, i honestly can't believe that he is not competing this year. But one thing i know for sure. When he'll be back PRX will win the whole thing.
This video is amazing, the metrics, the graphs and the analysis are incredible. However, I think your measurement for the actual impact of each player isn't quite precise. Of course, with how little data we have from Valorant and vlr it's hard to make a measurement, if we actually had a replay system and analytics like CS:GO had we could literally make charts like HTLV does with deep statistics on each players and make a top 20 or something, but sadly we don't have those tools.
I think your measurement of the impact it's wrong because you're not measuring the kills impact but more you're like adding up the %impact they make. For example take these 2 5v5 scenarios:
1 - Jett gets a first blood on enemy's Jett who was trying to take a pick on Mid
2 - Jett gets a first blood on enemy's Jett who was anchoring the site with a OP
As you probably guessed, the second scenario has way more impact on the actual winning on the round, on the first scenario you get a kill and get control over a crucial part of the map, but you still need to achieve your objetive as an attacker to win the round. Having mid control it's important, but not that much.
In the other hand, the second scenario gets you full site control and the spike plant. You went from working A to have full control over the bombsite and forcing a retake, where the defenders are almost always on a disadvantage, plus you would be in a 4v5 since you killed their Jett.
If you ask me, the second scenario had almost twice the impact on the round, but yet those 2 scenarios would give the same score on your graphs.
This video was amazing anyway, the visuals and everything was excellent, I just wanted to point out this (and to be fair it's almost impossible to measure this since we don't have a replay system and we have very few analytics)
Attaching more qualities to certain kills would be awesome and something I can think about for the future. Thanks for the feedback!
Some worse teams with 1 star player may stand out but some players like Chronicle and Leo bring some crazy stability and clutch skill all in one package.
It’s me ofc 🙄 i’m only stuck in diamond because of my teammates 😤 (/s)
Nd the worst part is that jingg can't play in 2024
You didn't quantify IGLing. That's also a thing that should be accounted for as it raises player value
You're right and if I am able to figure out a way to quantify that it would be an awesome video idea. One day surely haha
@@platoonval Yeah idk how one would do that as we don't have voice comms available :)
@@platoonval Also some players on this list are secondary IGLs which is even more impressive
@@platoonval Also do you think a players ability to have a flexible agent pool/roles raises their value? The meta isn't always going to be the same and we've seen how chamber got dumped and Yays performance followed( probably not the only reason). But Demon1s ability to carry even on smoker and other roles probably raises his value as EG can run different comps and aren't susceptible to meta changes.
@@filipgasic2642 For sure those are going to be the best players for the longest period of time.
this project is so dope, im going to do something similar. Thanks for the analysis
What I think it's missing is something to account for assists. Like, if a Jett kills someone who was flashed for a Skye, it's counting only for Jett player impact even though skye had a biggeer role
This explains why the player impact stats had the top players be basically always duelists or sentinels (except f0rsaken who plays duelist only sometimes but especially Cauazin who actually plays initiator only)
I love these videos, keep up the great work man!
Super good analysis, watched the whole thing
maybe glazing on tenz to hard but when he was in C9 bro when he dies like the round is quite literally over, the reason why he switched to streaming that year
Insane depth in your analysis
i would like to see the same analysis for masters 2 and champs in 2022 and masters 3 and champs in 2021, want to see if things like 16 kills per map and other stats work the same way
Common W video from platoonval
wow. great video and i can tell you put in a lot of effort into it
great video and extremely interesting. also points out who you should watch if you want to improve
Just look at Astralis 2018 to see the team effect. Every player getting into top20, including the IGL. Shutting down the rival that had s1mple with arguably all time high esports pro performance in a single year
Nice video. The only problem is even these numbers don't really say anything.
Valorant is a teamgame. If you put any player in a different team i guarantee you their stats would change.
So your stats always depend on the stats of your teamates and of your enemies, on the strat your team has and on the strat the enemies have. What agents are played and so on.
You also have to factor in communication.
There are an infinite amount of factors. And since there are infinite factors everybody is the best at infinite things.
It is impossible to take them all in consideration and decide their importance and therefore the simplest metric is used to decide who is the best and that is kill average.
What an amazing video you’ve made here thank you so much❤
I think one thing we can all agree on is that Yay had the most dominant year we have ever seen in 2022.