1984 - Dystopias and Apocalypses - Extra Sci Fi
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- What makes 1984 still relevant to modern readers is that it serves as a warning against fascism in all its possible forms. George Orwell's service fighting in the Spanish Civil War led him to see that the heart of totalitarianism is about xenophobia and nationalism no matter which kind of government it came from.
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The idea that Orwell presents us in 1984 is that people subtle enough and brutal enough can take the undirected dissatisfaction and anger of a society and point it at whatever they will, using us to damn ourselves.
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Extra Sci Fi idea: Command and Conquer Red Alert kind of scenario.
That twitter joke was absolute trash.
@@Joshua.Z7 they just did ^^^^^^
@@felixschrider9037 Look at the political landscape at the moment. If you think that this is just happening in other places then you are wrong.
You should also have talked about the manipulation of language. It’s an important part of the ideas Orwell tries to express.
I see you there Stalingrad
Not remembering to talk about that would be ungood.
Definitely part that they missed, and rather important given the way things are going today.
Human Resources
Hello Comrade Stalin
Subtle detail in 1984 a lot of people overlook: the appendix keeps referring to Ingsoc in the past tense, implying the people did eventually overthrow them.
Stormy Dragon what I’m reading this book and didn't notice omg
Hey, this makes the whole book seem a lot less depressing.
I mean, also the whole book constantly demonstrates unambiguously that they definitely will with no chance of failure.
The party can torture its citizens into obedience but can't eliminate their humanity and independent thinking, basically the ultimate weapons against authoritarianism.
@@theeternalslayer You do realize the entire 3rd part of the book is just dedicated how they destroy the human will, one's thinking, and brainwash people to get to love Big Brother, even if they were the staunchest rebel?
*Big Brother would like to know your location*
And access to your speaker, camera, microphone... Microwave.. Micropenis
Yusuf Seedat
I’m getting fucked with by big brother :(
You’ve taken my freedom, my happiness, my everything. Don’t take away my pride.
Ethan Tian Big brother does not care what you want and don’t want. Now get to the Two Minute Hate. We will talk later.
*Big Brother already had your location.*
Big Brother just wants to know what Ads to throw at you.
I just finished reading a 1984 chapter like 10 seconds ago. Did you install telescreens in my room?
Same thing happened to me when they release the Brave New Word episode
Remember Big Brother... er Extra Credits is watching you.
like they said, big brother is watching
Big Credits is watching you!
We read that at the beginning of the school year.
Thank you for focusing on the *really* scary stuff in 1984--the mental gymnastics we can inflict on one another (and on ourselves). The surveillance tech is of course very frightening but nothing is scarier than what happens in the very last line of 1984. Being mindful--even just putting yourself in check for a moment--was a great note to end the vid on. Critical thinking is something that *many* people simply do not experience. So take a breath! Be mindful! Be empathetic!
The sad truth is we are closer and closer to that as we speak. Just look at the Don't Kick Vic movement
yeah, the part where is said "twitter's terms of service" was waaaaay to accurate.
To be honest I thought the scariest part was vocabulary changes...
>Critical thinking is domething most people don't experience
But you do big boy, am I right? You smartypants would never be swayed by a dystopian government. Sure thing.
Saying this tells me you don't understand shit about 1984 or society and humanity at all.
@@BigKnecht Don't get your panties in a bunch now
"War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength.”
"Truth is lies
Hate is love
Fear is hope"
Strength through unity!
unity through faith!
Peace through power!
Could also be a speech from WH40K
Truth isn't truth
“2 + 2 = 5”
5:00 Always important to remember in the appendix
"Newspeak **was** the national language of Oceania"
Ingsoc fails.
Well, that wasn't real IngSoc then. Real IngSoc has never been tried.
Of course, after the traitor Goldstein twisted the language to his nefarious ends, Big Brother's infinite wisdom lead to the creation of a new language: English.
@@vikramvalame9990 Indeed; oldspeak is plus ungood and doubleplus ungoodthinkful. Mans who duckquack blackwhite oldthinkful oldspeak unbellyfeel ingsoc, and must be unpersoned. [Edit: this is actually a grammatically correct and understandable sentence in Newspeak.]
@@harbl99 you what?
No that's just how the English language works.
That book messed with my head for months after I'd finished reading it.
My brother once, for reasons that are not important, decided that he was going to write a paper finding the humor in 1984. He decided that it was, in part, a really bad British boys' school.
I have seen analyses from Overly Sarcastic Productions, and Crash Course Literature, but I have a feeling that I will still learn something new from this channel
Did you? I did... huh so my philosophy of IDGAF what others think is helping to fight tyranny?
I was curious to see who else I watched covered this and you answered my question so thanks kind stranger!
I think TED-ED has also looked at 1984
Alexander S. Oh didn’t know they did that. I’ll look into that. Thanks for my next vid.
Alternate History Hub also has a video explaining 1984 from a lore and worldbuilding perspective.
I think twitter should be called the two minutes of hate
Or 280 characters of hate.
More like two terms hate
More like the two eons of hate
discordingStichery it’s why I no longer use Twitter.
So, the inverse of 15 minutes of fame?
I still remember way back when I read 1984 that the final words of the book were some of the most chilling I have ever experienced.
"He had won the war over himself. He loved Big Brother"
1984, the year Los Angeles hosted the Summer Olympics for the second time, the Soviet bloc boycotted, and the US won a lot of medals which led to an awful promotion by McDonald's
Notoriously lampooned in the Simpsons.
Free Krustyburger anyone?
True horror of the Cold War right there.
I'm gonna spit in the 1,000,000th free burger.
@truthful Sin Are Khalistani separatists true Sikhs? Indian Sikhs don't think so.
Or are you talking about the Congress-Sikh riots in the aftermath of Indira Gandhi's assassination?
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Dafuq dis do with india?????????
Only two minutes of hate?
Sovereign citizens can do better than that.
They're quite an amusing bunch. Not the brightest, but still amusing.
Antifa puts sovereign citizens to shame.
Ahh, there we go. There's always someone who calls the group who is literally anti fascist the fascists.
Twitter: those are rockie numbers
"I DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING ARRESTED"
Hello, I am watching you
Hey! I'm in the shower!
Big Brother does this mean I need to put on pants?
Big Brother STRANGER DANGER. STRANGER DANGER!!!
I had a feeling you were watching me. And I have no privacy.
Oh shit, turns out big brother does exist after all!
Orwell was a socialist, who ended up hating other socialists.
He explores this in the road to Wigan Pier.
I find 1984 to be a warning against extreme political leanings in any direction. It's hard to tell if Oceania was once a fascist country or was socialist, before becoming totalitarian.
Exactly!
He was an anarchist
@@Anarcho_Insurrection not really, he’s pretty clearly against meaningless war and violent chaos
"hard to tell?" I think "ingsoc" makes it pretty fuckin clear.
@@TheRealNintendoKid yeah, believe what the party calls itself to be what it was in reality, very analytic
Opening with one of the most terrifying quotes in literature ever.
That's the video essay version of T-posing to establish dominance
BattleBurrito the clock struck 13
1984 and Animal farm is one of the "higher reading" novels that I actually finished. It was very interesting.
2:36
Oh shit the totalitarian leadership is headed by Walpole? My god his craftyness spreads throughout time and space!
1984 was a book I was recommended by a teacher and one of the best I’ve read so far
One of my projects in university was to choose a book, read it, write an introductory essay that could be pasted in the front, and it would be donated to the library. At first I was going to pick "Animal Farm", but it was 2016 and suddenly "1984" seemed much more relevant.
Oh look, it's just like my political opponent. Certainly not me, i'm the good one. I don't even remember when my group did anything wrong. And even if that did happen, they were traitors undermining us.
Yea, what he said.
Or the Party was different before, we are no longer like that ... there was a switch.
Fun fact: The last time 1984 was a bestseller hot trending book was... 2017, after the rise of "alternative facts"
Also about the time Antifa started attacking everyone they were told were "fascists."
@Piglor attacking random people who show up to counter-protest you, smash windows, torch cars, and throw bottle bombs after getting beaten in a brawl you started, attacking police and media later on when no counter protesters show up for you to fight, and none of those being one-off events.
@@braith117 ANTIFA has stooped pretty low in their excessively self-righteous crusading, but they're still leagues above the neo-nazi groups they combat.
@@ganondorfdragmire7886 nah, theyre one im the same, just like the pigs at the end of animal farm.
You folks would be better at this if you hadn't happily let all ability to be subtle be drained out of you. But definitely keep barking.
This is the only book I ever read that truly scared me.
My favorite passage in the book, the love note in the hallway, my God i have never had such a thrill while reading
Good thing our world is nothing like thst - nervous laughter -
NSA Agent: Haha, yeah
*Meanwhile in China*
@@YAH2121 China: "thank god we have 1984 as guide book. Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square 1989. Now, keep kissing my ass to access my market."
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 i think you mean north korea. North korea =Oceania
The most dystopian thing is that I haven't seen ANY OF your uploads in the last 3-5 MONTHS in my subbox
click on the noti bell wtf
Orwell: writes 1984
Western nations: Okay cheers for the step by step guidebook
Orwell: *am I a joke to you*
Spoiler: Big Brother is actually Walpole.
You misspelled Google, the owner of youtube. Bigger Brother is spelled with 3-letters...
Gabriel González C no it’s skillshare
Gabriel González C Walpole will lead the uprising against big brother you eastasian spy!
authors then: go fight in war, see the brutality of man, lose sanity and inner peace, be called crazy for the rest of your life
authors now: Yay, i made new york times best seller list!
Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you and you sold me
There lie they and here lie we
Under the spreading chestnut tree
Oranges and Lemons.
The Blue Knight say the bells of St Clements
You owe Me three farthings
mihnea suditu say the bells of St Martins
@@awesomehpt8938 When will you pay me?
"Anyone not firmly a Soviet style communist was being labeled a fascist."
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That does sound familiar Zoey, where have we heard stuff like that lately? Hmmm...
Except these days, it's more like "anyone not firmly a free-market capitalist is labeled a fascist."
@@cooperross9495 everybody and their mom is shitting on capitalism right now
@@cooperross9495 Capitalists aren't currently denouncing anyone not in lockstep with them anymore. The cold war ended.
Anthony Marvin errybody denouncing errybody who ain’t in lockstep
@@Ravengaurd6 Very few people with power, because power in the rich countries of today (including China, by the way) rests with people who benefit from capitalism directly.
So are we going to mention Orwell and his personal life and not reveal George Orwell was a pen name? His actual name was Eric Blair.
Spoilers.
Ackshually that was his government name. Not his _real_ name.
British is allready like this
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Can't piss on my neighbors lawn literally 1984
1:36 uh oh. This seems a bit familiar...
And then you have Kaiserriech. In Oswald Mosely's Totalist faction you have a certain Eric Blair.
The former was the founder of the British Union of Fascists, the latter writer of this very book.
The what ifs involving that party are some very broad strokes. Although it would probably make Thatcher look as though she couldn't make her mind up.
I didn’t know Orwell served in the Spanish civil war
_Homage to Catalonia_ in a nutshell: "I got dysentery, saw my friends die needlessly, and got shot in the neck. A++, would visit Spain again."
Also served in the British civil service in India its why he became a socialist after seeing the dire poverty there
@@evan448 He no longer saw himself as a socialist after he served in the spanish civil war as he saw the tyrannical actions done by the republicans to civilian and prisoners alike
@@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123 Do you have a source for that? It's not uncommon for Socialists to hate other Socialists that are either too soft or to authoritarian.
@@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123 That's just not rue, like a complete fabrication, Orwell was a Libertarian Socialist to the day he died
Can you guys please cover "I have no mouth and I must scream?"
>> A older video showing late show host Colbert, tells his audience that FBI director Comey has just been fired, they cheer! He corrects them. Comey had no longer been a bad enemy, he was now a good ally. Just like in 1984, they switched. They had to be told who was what.
The problem was people’s dislike for him due to the potential impacts he had during the election made them think “a bad thing happened to a bad person, that means cheer” without thinking about the broader implications of the timing of his firing or the fact that the dismissal of the FBI director should cause pause regardless of timing.
@@ImmaDBZvillan
@@surearrow i think there are a lot of underlying facts we'd have to ignore to go with your view, but i don't think we'll come to an agreement here, I will say their reaction was concerning regardless though
Fear is always the weapon of any politician, and the downfall of any nation.
The video is superb as always but there is a slight error here. George Orwell mentioned that the Party workers of INGSOC wore blue overalls. That's hasn't been shown here. Though a superb video nonetheless.
I am waiting for fahrenheit 451 or Asimov´s novels.
They did cover Asimov himself. I don't know if you'll get much more than that before they've done overviews of all the greats.
As someone who regularly uses Twitter, that last Twitter TOS reference hits a lot more close to home than you'd think (especially in the anime community)
The scary thing is how much of 1984 has actually come about in the real world very easily. All you really need is a society where critically thinking is not systematically taught, and demagoguery becomes the easiest (and eventually the go-to) way to convince people of anything. And once that happens, tyranny will inevitably follow.
2021 here... things are... terrible.
ONII CHAN is watching you!!!!!
Orwell, is honestly a great author, animal farm and 1984 are my favourite sci fi
Got to be my favorite, or one of, authors out there.
Haha all your novels... They come true in China mate...
(I'm tunneling tor through a vpn)
OK hopefully I don't get any tea...
Because to china and other politicians across the world, they see the book as the blueprint of an ideal government to rule over and enslave humanity
Nah only the prc.
If you visit the Republic of China you will find your self in one if the free ist and happiest nations on earth
Orwell never set foot in the Soviet Union
I showed the last video in my language arts class
This series is why Tuesday is my favorite day of the week!
This episode is double-plus-good
I wish you spent some time on the NewSpeak
Maybe another video? :3
Thank you for including that Orwell was a socialist and distinguishing between authoritarian and libertarian socialism
Animal farm is one the most horrifying stories, I was forced to read.
Okay, 1984's here! Now you need to upload its most necessary counterpart: Brave Newq World.
Ya lo vi. Fue hermoso.
You could make Orwell into a generator with how he’s spinning in is grave
Fascist and Communist are the two ideologies that are directly opposed in 1984. Socialism back then was a different thing then now a days focusing on more social reforms for individuals then a collective, that's one reason Orwell feared Fascist and Communist
Thank you.
Can we please get this as #1 on Trending so everybody can wake up? Because there are tons of people that could use this information.
>very not subtly glares at the extremists in US politics
Ya you Yankees need to fix jo s***
Not to be rude but that is part of the reason why more Texans and Hawaiians support independence there sick of the unreformabal u.s government
Props for not falling for the temptation of picking sides. 👍
@Trooper1139
It’s not incapable of being redeemed, it’s just that extremists refuse to look past their own self interests, and you get ostracized and suppressed even if you’re vaguely related and still disagree with the group agenda.
@Underrated1
Just because I don’t fully agree with one side doesn’t mean I’m so blind as to think the other doesn’t have its own faults. The US political system should work on compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the common citizen; not be used to serve the agendas of whichever extremist group is currently in control.
@@DragonxFlutter Of course, of course.
@@DragonxFlutter but...I'm not disagreeing with you
A wonderful highlight to some of 1984's best aspects.
WHOA I never knew Orwell had an involvement in the Spanish Civil War!! They never mentioned that in school! History class could've been so much cooler if they taught stuff like this! 😠
my favorite guide book
I was gonna say: "Anyone who thinks the Two Minutes Hate is crazy hasn't been paying attention to social media." ;)
I was just thinking the same thing. I feel like we already live in a somewhat dystopian world. We are like crabs in boiling water and they turn the temp up bit by bit and society just stays tge course.
that image of "you are now leaving civil war Spain" just casually on a sign is hilarious.
There is some small degree of irony in the realisation that Animal Farm was written by a socialist.
But in some other ways, that makes perfect sense.
Especially when you see what happened to Russia bit by bit...
Totalitarianism breeds where fear has taken root, and it's weapon of choice is nationalism, forced conformity and fostering as much of an 'us vs them' mentality as possible.
I don’t think anyone in this comment section knows what big brother is
Down with big brother.
Knock, knock, it's the Thought Police
Im doing a project on 1984 rn, you got telescreens in my room or something
So the moral of 1984, is "Check Yo'self before yo wreck yo'self"
"We have always been at war with Eastasia."
Always stuck with me. Don't know why.
You must always think and ask questions
Make a video revolving around the lore of Man in the High Castle, I think it'd be neat!
This video is extremely relevant for this year's elections.
@@fraskf6765 thx for proving my point
Why?
1:40 Hey look! It's literally our society right now.
Commander Kay from Saunders
Pretty much
Not really. Its missing the racists complaining about being called racists.
@@toddharig8142 What about the non-racists being called racist?
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 They don't really exist. It takes quiet a big misstep to accidentally do a "racism". Its not something you slip and fall into.
"something something, crime and fatherlessness"
I could've used this when I had my English Exam!
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Big brother is always Watching
Anyone who can't see Big Brother in Google, Facebook and Twitter is living in " Brave New World" and high on Soma
Road to Wigan Pier is also a good book to read to get an understanding of Orwell and his views
One thing I think would make for an interesting dystopia premise would be a world where everything is automated, but by machine learning which is easily confused by unexpected behaviors. People would be forced into utter conformity not because some outside authority deliberately threatens them if they misbehave, but out of a fear that if they deviate the slightest bit the algorithms which see to their most basic needs will fail to recognize them anymore and they will starve.
I’m not even part of the bell squad I just have a watchful eye for you guys! 😃
I don't care about Extra Sci-fi as a series but I need to watch for the greatest novel
1984: *exists*
Modern governments: is this a how to guide?
what ever happened to the narrator who was repped in a green shirt? i miss him
he moved on a while ago
Also does new frame plus.
@@SomeGuy1117 Why? What happened?
No such person. Matthew Krol is the presenter. Matthew Krol has *always* been the presenter.
@@PavarottiAardvark Yes comrade, wait why are you talking about things that never existed?
That description of the 2 minuter hate sounds like a metal consert.
Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury please!
What Do You Think “Social Media” Is?
It’s “Big Brother” Observing Us, All The Time.
I wouldn't mind having a Big Brother if he looked like Freddy Mercury
“The people will not revolt. They will not look up from their screens long enough to notice..."
IngSoc (the political party in 1984) also went out of its way to abolish sex, and the sex instinct. People still had children, although people were paired together out of duty, not passion. Love affairs were strictly forbidden.
This was done to make people perpetually frustrated, isolated, and selfish. If people take lovers, they feel contented and selfless. Without that connection - that emotional outlet - people go crazy... and crazy people are easy to control.
3:56
Scp reference?
Holy crap I just liked the video and it went to exactly 22,000 likes
So basically our era.
Great, now I have to reread twitter's terms of service so I can tell the difference.
Do one for The Hunger Ganes
Onii sama is watching.
3:53 Orwell predicted the "Cringe-Compilation," change my mind.
Where have we heard stuff like that lately? What is the video's intent with implication? Seriously want to know. Maybe I'm not up to date enough, but can someone please tell me?