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Reminds me of something the Norwegian king said (don't know the origin): "Never compare the best of your own country (or culture) with the worst of someone else's."
I admire that Marjane was willing to insist that she is in the medium of comics. Too many people use the term 'graphic novel' as a special term for 'the GOOD comics', so they can continue to dismiss an entire medium as worthless without needing to contend with the works in the medium that they would look stupid for dismissing. It's a similar problem to the way that the entire fantasy genre has been so dismissed and scorned by too many people in literature that when they had to admit some of the books were obviously good they invented the non-genre 'magical realism' so they didn't have to admit they were being absurd.
Well, I think it's a bit of translation issues. In France, every graphic art stories are called "bandes dessinées", with comics only referring to American works. So for her, the distinction isn't present.
@@Manu-pn3rj Perhaps that's true there, but in Anglo-American publishing it is very common advice from agents for people publishing low-key fantasy to try and rebrand it as magical realism because it makes it easier to sell to publishers. Many authors speak about how the same manuscript will end up with the main printing house when labelled magical realism, but in the offshoot genre house if it's labelled fantasy. It's less codified than the comic book - graphic novel split, but it is real in publication and in review too. There is a frustrating insistence that magical realism is 'real' literature where fantasy is not, and it is demonstrably affecting what can and can't be published.
@@UnreasonableOpinions It might have to do the fact that when a lot of people hear the word "comics", they usually think of superhero comics like Marvel and DC. Which were very campy and bizarre in their earlier years, and probably didn't get a lot of respect.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 they didn't, back in the day comics were considered what you do when you failed as writer. It was also a job taken by people who couldn't find work due to prejudice, that's why a lot of Golden and Silver Age writers/artists were jewish
Its comics like this are why comics/graphic novels should be required to be read in literature classes. I did not enjoy reading literature for school until I took an intro to comics class in college. I enjoyed reading comics and graphic novels, like Persepolis, Batman: The Long Halloween, Blacksads, etc. These comics should be required to read on a primary school level.
As someone with dyslexic, I feel like if comics/graphic novels were required to read in literature class, it would make it a whole lot easier for me and others.
@@TheMilitantMazdakiteHaha Zoroastrians got extinct a long time ago What we have today is a copy of the Islamic story of prophet Mohammad , his wife , his cousin Ali Go read Twelver Shi'sm is truth (Specifically Akhbari Twelvers) Ya Ali Madad
Oh, god, I forgot about Persepolis. It's a really good read, and that comes from someone that has a hard time reading anything not speculative fiction.
Thank you for making an episode on one of my most favourite French Comics of all time, if you want something similar yet special in its own way, I suggest you check "L'Arabe du Futur" (The Arab of the Future) by Riad Sattouf who is a French-Syrian Comic Artist and Director, in his work he recounts his life during Childhood between Syria, Libya and France and all the challenges he went through. It's a really breathtaking journey of 6 volumes that I highly recommend for anyone, especially westerners who want a good fair glimpse into the reality of the Middle East's culture and mindset
Persepolis is the first comic I actually read as like literature and wow, it was eye opening. I still love graphic novels or comics as a medium to this day.
4:14 - I knew I heard about this book somewhere! Pretty sure it was brought up in that McCloud book that was brought up, since I read that for an extracurricular class I took in college on Anime & Manga. It's definitely a good read, and one I'd recommend
This opens the door to so many episode possibilities, I’m curious in what future episodes would be like discussing the themes found in various comics and manga.
I am happy to see you made a video on Persepolis. I have watched the film and hold it close to my heart as a beautiful movie of great significance of learning! Thank you!
This was my favorite book when I was ~4-5 I didn’t understand ANYTHING about it but I really loved the drawings and the main characters way of portraying her family :))
The first Persepolis book I mandatory reading in my school and it was so interesting I had to read the rest and I’m o glad I did ! I also studied it when I first started getting into illustration and comics
Great book, really interesting to see the point of view of someone who's lived in countries with such different culturs. You guy's should do Maus too !
After watching the video I went out and found copies of the two books. They are not what I expected, even after watching the video, and found them inciteful into her life. It paints a picture of life many of us ignore and don't want to see.
reading this book for highschool and im so glad my school introduced me to this book :D even if u aren't studying persepolis i'd highly recommend reading it.
Since visual novels are covered on this channel (which is great to hear honestly cause those deserve to be discussed), how about covering the graphic novel maus?
I do agree with the massage of thus book all tho I don't live in a western country but I do found do interesting individuals on the internet who make assumptions about me just because iam a Pakistani people were shock to know the I support Ukraine this why I really like this
I completely understand her reasoning, from my mother, I inherited severe ADHD/SPD and auditory issues.. my brain works differently then most people and so did hers in her honor (she passed) I’m creating a book about our neurodivergent experience
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I read them
And I am writing a sci fi story
Hello! Should you make a video about the Canudos War?
You should cover the spartan athenian wars
Reminds me of something the Norwegian king said (don't know the origin): "Never compare the best of your own country (or culture) with the worst of someone else's."
a great distinction to think about
What a beautiful stmt!
I feel like often liberals compare the worst of western colture with the best of any other
Thems are wise words
I never knew
I admire that Marjane was willing to insist that she is in the medium of comics. Too many people use the term 'graphic novel' as a special term for 'the GOOD comics', so they can continue to dismiss an entire medium as worthless without needing to contend with the works in the medium that they would look stupid for dismissing. It's a similar problem to the way that the entire fantasy genre has been so dismissed and scorned by too many people in literature that when they had to admit some of the books were obviously good they invented the non-genre 'magical realism' so they didn't have to admit they were being absurd.
Well, I think it's a bit of translation issues. In France, every graphic art stories are called "bandes dessinées", with comics only referring to American works. So for her, the distinction isn't present.
“magical realism” is a real subgenre of fantasical literature tho?? it’s huge in latinoamerica and isn’t a cop out genre for “good” fantasy
@@Manu-pn3rj Perhaps that's true there, but in Anglo-American publishing it is very common advice from agents for people publishing low-key fantasy to try and rebrand it as magical realism because it makes it easier to sell to publishers. Many authors speak about how the same manuscript will end up with the main printing house when labelled magical realism, but in the offshoot genre house if it's labelled fantasy.
It's less codified than the comic book - graphic novel split, but it is real in publication and in review too. There is a frustrating insistence that magical realism is 'real' literature where fantasy is not, and it is demonstrably affecting what can and can't be published.
@@UnreasonableOpinions It might have to do the fact that when a lot of people hear the word "comics", they usually think of superhero comics like Marvel and DC. Which were very campy and bizarre in their earlier years, and probably didn't get a lot of respect.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 they didn't, back in the day comics were considered what you do when you failed as writer.
It was also a job taken by people who couldn't find work due to prejudice, that's why a lot of Golden and Silver Age writers/artists were jewish
Its comics like this are why comics/graphic novels should be required to be read in literature classes. I did not enjoy reading literature for school until I took an intro to comics class in college. I enjoyed reading comics and graphic novels, like Persepolis, Batman: The Long Halloween, Blacksads, etc. These comics should be required to read on a primary school level.
I was required to read this in high school
In my last year of high school, the year 9 kids read Maus
- "Bu... but it's not true art!"
- "It's the fusion of drawing and litterature! Boomer."
The one comic which should be required reading in my opinion should be Watchmen
As someone with dyslexic, I feel like if comics/graphic novels were required to read in literature class, it would make it a whole lot easier for me and others.
I'm Iranian and very glad that you shared truth about my country with your people.
if anything, the US and UK overthrowing the Prime Minister in the 50s to be the catalyst for the 1979 revolution
And as a Zoroastrian convert, I say amen to that!
@@TheMilitantMazdakiteHaha
Zoroastrians got extinct a long time ago
What we have today is a copy of the Islamic story of prophet Mohammad , his wife , his cousin Ali
Go read
Twelver Shi'sm is truth (Specifically Akhbari Twelvers)
Ya Ali Madad
I completely understand if you decide not to, but I think you should do “So you haven’t read Maus”
Seconded!
Third-eded!
It’d be topical. Maus was banned by a school board in Tennessee pretty recently
Agreed.
More votes from me.
finally a book ive read
that makes one of us lol
Right
Ikr
Same here
Guess the title doesn't really apply then.
I love this book so so much! And the movie directed by Satrapi herself is incredible in its own way as well. That "Eye of the Tiger" scene? ICONIC.
"Eye of d'taigurrrr, ah-ah-ah!"
That was one of the more endearing, human things I've seen in a movie.
Oh, god, I forgot about Persepolis. It's a really good read, and that comes from someone that has a hard time reading anything not speculative fiction.
As a dyslexic youth who despised complex literature growing up, Persepolis is an absolute masterpiece
Whoah, a Comic Book analysis on Extra Literature?
That was more unexpected than the Spanish Inquisition!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Bring out the... COMFY CHAIR!!!!
nobody expects the spanish inquisition
Persepolis is nothing less than modern masterpiece.
Just happy to see comics and graphic novels being recognized as literature.
See also: A Beginner's Guide To Acting English by Shappi Khorsandi. Another entry in the young-Iranian-woman-flees-west-and-has-culture-shock genre.
Thanks for the tip, will check out.
Is it a graphic memoir?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 alas no, it's a text memoir, but still work reading.
I think everyone who ever was a part of two different communities can relate to this story.
Whenever you're with one, you belong to the other.
i LOVED persepolis in high school i’m so happy you guys did an episode on it
Everyone is rightly suggesting "Maus," but I'd love to see your take on Alison Bechdel's "Fun Home."
Fun Home is FUNDAMENTAL. Perfect. Iconic. Tô say the least.
Yaaas! I was fortunate to experience all three in one semester for a Comic Book Writing class in college. Plus Harvey Pekar's "American Splendor".
Thank you for making an episode on one of my most favourite French Comics of all time, if you want something similar yet special in its own way, I suggest you check "L'Arabe du Futur" (The Arab of the Future) by Riad Sattouf who is a French-Syrian Comic Artist and Director, in his work he recounts his life during Childhood between Syria, Libya and France and all the challenges he went through. It's a really breathtaking journey of 6 volumes that I highly recommend for anyone, especially westerners who want a good fair glimpse into the reality of the Middle East's culture and mindset
Persepolis is an awesome book, probably one of the best graphic novels I have ever read next to Alan Moore’s work
Persepolis is the first comic I actually read as like literature and wow, it was eye opening. I still love graphic novels or comics as a medium to this day.
Excellent book. A timely reminder that most citizens in every country just want to live their lives.
This book ripped out my heart, chewed on it, then spit it out on the ground. 10/10
Love the art man
4:14 - I knew I heard about this book somewhere! Pretty sure it was brought up in that McCloud book that was brought up, since I read that for an extracurricular class I took in college on Anime & Manga. It's definitely a good read, and one I'd recommend
1st graphic novel i read, love itt !!
As a venezuelan busker wandering abroad, I feel so related to this :') And the movie rocks :3
This opens the door to so many episode possibilities, I’m curious in what future episodes would be like discussing the themes found in various comics and manga.
I am happy to see you made a video on Persepolis. I have watched the film and hold it close to my heart as a beautiful movie of great significance of learning! Thank you!
This was my favorite book when I was ~4-5
I didn’t understand ANYTHING about it but I really loved the drawings and the main characters way of portraying her family :))
This and Maus should be mandatory reading for students during high school
The first Persepolis book I mandatory reading in my school and it was so interesting I had to read the rest and I’m o glad I did ! I also studied it when I first started getting into illustration and comics
What a coincidence - we’re just starting to get into Persepolis in school so I sent a link of this to my history teacher and we watched in class
I read the book for a University English class and the movie was released that year, so our whole class saw the movie together.
No I haven't read Persopolis, but I have seen the movie, which is great!
And I was actually lying before, I also read the comic.
Great book, really interesting to see the point of view of someone who's lived in countries with such different culturs. You guy's should do Maus too !
I still keep whole Persepolis comics and the movie DVD since 2008!
Beyond love this book. First graph novel I've read
I read Persepolis in high school and loved it. It spoke to me as someone with a family history in the Middle East.
I have always loved the book and the animated movie. I’m so glad you did a special episode on Persepolis!! Thank you!
After watching the video I went out and found copies of the two books. They are not what I expected, even after watching the video, and found them inciteful into her life. It paints a picture of life many of us ignore and don't want to see.
This was good. Now, given the circumstances, can I recommend you to go over Mauss?
I think my wife will absolutely adore this book thank you for the good find
😢 Sounds so sad, but too good to pass up. As always, thanks for sharing, extra credits!
I have seen the movie, but i really didn't know it was a comic first.
I put that right into my shopping basket.
Finally one I have actually read. In fact I’m actually doing a project on this book in my HS English class right now.
"illigal punk cloths" sounds so cool.
reading this book for highschool and im so glad my school introduced me to this book :D even if u aren't studying persepolis i'd highly recommend reading it.
I'm so glad you're covering Satrapi's Persepolis!
Since visual novels are covered on this channel (which is great to hear honestly cause those deserve to be discussed), how about covering the graphic novel maus?
literally just finish reading this book. Its great
I need to watch this film!
Lol just had to read this for school its great to see you do this video
Marjane also was astonished at the food in the supermarkets.
I do agree with the massage of thus book all tho I don't live in a western country but I do found do interesting individuals on the internet who make assumptions about me just because iam a Pakistani people were shock to know the I support Ukraine this why I really like this
Indeed
Persepolis is one of the strongest films I ever saw.
Hmm... So, you haven't read Bill Watterson's "Calvin & Hobbes"?
Persepolis is my all time favorite graphic novel series and I just love the 2007 movie!
One of the best graphic novels I ever read.
I fucking love persepolis. Any one see the trailer with the song eye of the tiger when you were a kid.
Love this book so much.
this sounds amazing I must check this out
Omg awesome I've always wanted to read this book!
I'm surprised nobody had made a austria and art school joke yet
I've read "Persepolis", and I thought it was great!
It also helped solidify my belief that theocracies are basically religious dictatorships!
@@Elizabeththegreatest well, that’s what theocracy means
What a great story!
I remember reading this in high school! Definitely a different time. Good book, though!
Great video.....can you do one on Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay's Kapalkundala or Devi Chaudhurani please
"No country should be judged based on its most extreme citizens."
No subculture should be--in regards to its members--either.
I’ve read this book over 3 times
Thanks for exposing me to persepolis, I watched the movie after watching this video
Should you make a video about the Canudos War and António Conselheiro?
Loved it
Persepolis is a great book and raises some very strong points about culture.
Do an episode on "MAUS", please, it's an awesome book.
Comic book? Okay, consider then if you will The Eternaut by Oesterheld.
This was uploaded the day that we finished our final projects on the book lmao
5:43 the part I don’t understand about this is why even have him come out?
Is it a coed art class and there’s men that can look she just can’t?
love the book and the movie
Hey! The book I had to analyse for my essay
Thank you, I am absolutely going to check this book out. P.S. I appreciate the Rifts call out😉
I love "Persepolis", it's a great graphic novel!
Ms. Satrapi really managed to convey what living in 1980s Iran is like!
And proves that theocracies are always oppressive, no matter what religion they promote!
"Maus" next?
I completely understand her reasoning, from my mother, I inherited severe ADHD/SPD and auditory issues.. my brain works differently then most people and so did hers in her honor (she passed) I’m creating a book about our neurodivergent experience
You should do Umberto Eco - name of the rose
PANR has tuned in.
holy crap we just started reading this in school what a coincidence
I love this story very much please make more videos like this you got my support ❤ 🙏 💜 💕 🙌 💗 ❤ 🙏
We just finished reading this in class!
Oh my God. I remember this. Damn
So having watched part of the screen adaptation it is made very clear in the watching, the pronunciation is "suh-TRA-py" and not "SAT-truhpy"
Sadly can’t watch today but thank you for the disclaimer at the beginning!
My English class just finished reading this book
Excellent book and excellent movie
I want him back
Since y'all are covering comics, one I'd love to see y'all cover is Sin City
oh man, haven't heard about Sin City in years lol
One of my favorite books. The movie is also wonderful.
Haha jokes on you I HAVE READ THIS!
Yes school forced me too
You guys should do The Eternauta from Argentina. And fot extra history San Martin
I read The Sneetches by Dr. Seuss, so I’m covered.
Truly a badass.