@@panzerforelle126 It was designed to be an early 1940s heavy, and compared to say a B1 Bis it was an heavy even weight wise. But since Italian classification was based on role and not weight, and after discovering the wonders of sloped armour with the T-34, the Italians delayed production to completely remake the design, it was kind of outdated role wise. And by saying they remade the design I mean that the earlier P40s looked nothing like the late ones. The earliest was planned to weight 25 tons have flat 50 mm thick armour and a 47/32 gun with a 20/65 coaxial, but afterwards they wanted to mount a 6 pounder (Italy was retiring the naval version of that gun and wanted to recycle it on tanks); then they remade it into a 30 ton multi turreted design with 40 mm of slightly sloped armour, a 75/18 in the main turret and a 20/65 in a smaller turret; until finally they settled on the P26 design.
@@aegeanharrier6648 The Overlord tank can mount a gatling gun on top of the turret to kill aircraft and infantry, but it would still be very slow and a big target, so it just gets killed by artillery.
@@glacier4286 The F-22 Raptor is an Air Superiority fighter, and while it can do air to ground missions, other aircraft are much more likely to do air to ground attacks. The A-10 would do just fine as long as there are no SAMs in the area. I think the gatling gun can also act as a point defense weapon to shoot down missiles but not bombs or tank shells, kind of like a CIWS on land.
@@tylerchiu7065 brooo....it has nothing to do with patriotism, people buy all sorts of gun there, but... youre half-right, huh. that is the most sold gun over there
I know you don't typically do mod vehicle analysis, but the Contra mod for Generals redesigned all of the vehicles and has quite a few interesting ones such as super units for each faction, anyways, fantastic video.
What about the Rise of the Reds tanks? (Mod for Generals: Zero Hour) some are redesigned and even more units Especially the addition of European and Russian factions Edit: There’s also Wiki for the mod which also gives lore of each unit. To make it easier
The twin-gun design is from the Marksman, an anti-air gun vehicle. In that, spacing the guns makes sense since it relies on fast firing and shrapnel to hit fast moving low armored targets. It also does look badass.
Muzzle breaks have another purpose beyond recoil reduction. The main purpose is to redirect gasses to the sides of the barrel to stop it kicking up too much dust infront of the tank as to not block gunner vision for quick followup shots.
If you've taking suggestions, I'd like to see the tanks from Ground Control 1, well, the whole series really. Ground Control 1 might have a bit of an issue on the polygon count. There's some pretty good design in there and some..... well, not so good.
What about the Battlemaster ;d ? Its boring I know. A type 69/59 wannabe. I still have hope for War Front's vehicles. I refreshed the Wikia with 5K screenshots of its vehicles.
1:08 looks more like the front of an PzKpfw IV to me, especially with the two hatches there for the transmission. But well it is hard to make high polycount models for a game like that, and even more so back when the game was created. So you just do things like optics or scopes as a texture and have to size tem up so that they are visible.
Could you discuss the practicality of drop troopers? Like ODST's or Starship Troopers. Maybe also discuss the practicality of metal armor for foot soldiers, such as the armor the marines wear in Halo.
iirc the armor marines wear in halo is designed to not instantly burst into flames on contact with plasma from covenant weapons. Thus the obvious, cheap option: metal and metalized ceramics.
The practicality of drop troops depend 100% on what technology is available. If we assume basically just improved engines and materials compared to what we have today, there would only be two differences between a troop shuttle and a troop pod carrying the same number of troops and materiel: the shuttle would be a much larger and slower target*, and the shuttle can take of again if you have captured sufficient launch facilities. A shuttle would probably be more expensive to build and maintain, but that depends on what type of automation and production technologies exist, and you'll need one pod for every single deployment while a shuttle can be used again and again, so the cost could very much be either way. With some improved engine technologies, like fusion or metallic hydrogen, the shuttle can likely carry enough fuel to not just land and then fly of again, but also move significant distances in the atmosphere (allowing you to drop them far from the warzone and just fly in under jet power) and provide close air support to it's troops, while a pod can't. On the other hand, such technologies allows a pod to be made heavier, so it can carry dedicated atmospheric support craft and be armored enough to act as an impromptu stronghold. Fancier space opera technologies, like gravity manipulation, faster-than-light travel, mass manipulation, inertial damperners, etc, could further change the playing field. If inertial compensation or similar allow your troops to survive _any_ kind of deceleration and acceleration forces, then a drop "pod" could be made to essentially be an orbit-to-ground bunker-piercing artillery shell that you've crammed a few soldiers into: pretty hard to beat in terms of getting boots on the ground, and if proper warships and carriers can land on planets there's no need to have shuttles to retrieve them, and the carrier itself can provide close air support (depending on specifics and doctrine, fighters and interceptors might still be needed to establish air superiority). In Titanfall, drop pods are fired from geosynchronous orbit, then make an FTL jump to just high enough that they can decelerate, largely eliminating the risk of being shot down, while dropships act gunship and evac. If Star-Trek-style beaming or Stargate-style ring platforms become a thing, then both shuttles and drop pods are impractical since you can just teleport your troops and all their vehicles from the ship and back. And regardless of what technologies are on the table, there will likely be many different roles that need to be fulfilled, which will necessitate either specialized platforms that can do their job really well, or multi-purpose platforms that are mediocre at everything. *because the shuttle has to survive the descent - a pod doesn't because it's single-use, only the soldiers inside need to survive.
Vaelophis Nyx That’s true, however the marines were shown to have been fitted with metal plates during the war of insurrection, before the covenant attacked. They would have been fighting other humans using kinetics and bullets, yet they still had metal plate armor. Somehow that made it lighter and stronger
It's kinda funny the vehicles in C&C seem to get more cartoonist as the game series went on. Makes the tanks easier to identify when they are so small on screen but it still feels like something I would draw in grade school note book.
From Gundam the Type 61 tank? It's originally from a 40 year old show. But has had some alterations and fixes with reworks throughout it's history. The version we've been using/on the wiki is the version from the mid 90's and early 2000's. The wiki is quite humble and even goes on about it's major flaws as a tank. Hell, there's also a decent amount of refrence art and source material (even some games) so you can get a good look at it.
From what I know, Crusader and Paladin were supposed to be so automated, they'd be operated by a single pilot. This doesn't explain the abysmal amount of hatches tho
The marauder doesn't have a turret, it has to rotate to fire. The Scorpion seem to me like it's based on ww2 Italian light tanks? It also looks like it has rivoted armor
I just noticed, the Crusader tank has the hatches of a Panzer III on it's front hull. One appears to be a split-hatch design taken straight from the Pz. III's turret, and the other hatch on the tank's left seems to be an emergency escape hatch that was in the side hull of the Pz. III under the tracks.
5:00 "Unless they can fit a second guy in there somehow" Every single vehicle in Generals is crewed by only one person, since a single infantryman is enough to operate an unmanned vehicle, ranked up US vehicles always spawn only one pilot each, Jarmen Kell can instantly snipe the operator of any ground vehicle, and Hijackers can instantly take over them.
According to the booklet that came with the game, the GLA scorpion tank is a repurposed and repaired WW1 tank. Which particular one I can't say, but it is very reminiscent of a Renault F1. However, as other people have said, it could be a P-40. The Marauder tank isn't based off of any tank. It's supposed to be built entirely from the ground up out of scrap metal. Hence why the driver is so obsessed with collecting scrap. A fact accentuated by the note that there was supposed to be a third upgrade, but it didn't make it in. Also, if you notice, the Marauder never rotates it's "turret", and it's upgrades make the turret so massive, it wouldn't be able to move anyway. It's not a tank, it's an assault gun.
3:49 It looks like an Italian Carro Armato P-40 from WW-2. And no, it doesn't look like a T-34. Not only it has a different cannon to the kind used in the T-34 (and different turret as well), but also the transmission system and the armor placement are different).
Tanks don't have muzzles not because of handling recoils. It is because of using new sub-caliber ammunition. Muzzles forcing these ammo activating earlier than it should. And Muzzle make tank reducing its disguising during battle. For example WW2 Germany Tanks had Muzzle and they were big and heavy enough. But they used cumulative shells mostly. So if we imagine that this tank uses other than sub-caliber shells then Muzzle can be.
Gotta be honest a lot of exaggerated bits like huge slits on textures or real bulky bits are a deliberate artistic thing with how low poly this game is. When making assets low poly, its best to enhance the bits to give them visibility, especially from a bird's eye view when everything is zoomed out.
1:25 or that can just be an access panel for other things. I know that the Stryker has an access panel right in front of the driver’s hatch but that’s an access panel for things that isn’t the transmission. I mean the crusader tank doesn’t look like it has drive sprockets on the front ant it looks more like an idle wheel so it doesn’t really imply that the transmission is up front.
I'm surprised you didn't go into the BIG, FLAT, EMPTY target space on top of the overlord or it's variations where that space becomes things like a mobile bunker.
Have you done the vehicles from Command and conquer: Tiberium sun? You mentioned somewhere in your hover tank video that a hovering rocket artillery vehicle could be plausible, and the GDI in that game have something called a hover MLRS.
The very likely design flaw of the vehicles is that all vehicles that needs multiple personnel to operate only needs just one to drive and shoot. If you played the game you might already noticed it just using jarmen kell to kill the person inside that vehicle which for some reason the sniper rifle is very effective to all vehicles if his ability is ready (note that he's not using AT-rifle, maybe) or hijackers that could get in vehicles VERY easily or find a already abandoned vehicle and put any single unit (even if not experienced driver) in order to maneuver it and give it orders.
Hey Spookston i love your videos and i just wanted to give a suggestion for some video game tanks/vehicles to review. I thought it could be cool to look at the vehicles in Unreal Tournament 3, there is a main battle tank (Goliath) and some other combat vehicles like the Scorpion, Hellbender and Paladin as well as the Leviathan which is a bit crazy and not really a tank but still a cool design.
Good video Spooks! I have a request, could you take a look at the vehicles from Homeworld : Deserts of Kharak? The Coalition in the game have all wheeled units, while the Gaalsiens have all hovercrafs. Since it's a desert, I want to know your take on that.
To be fair, no one use "Tanks" in C&C Generals anyway because there're other vastly better options when it comes to vehicles: USA: Humvee loaded with rocket soldiers and snipers. China: Gatling tanks and sprinkle some Dragon tanks in if you think you can sneak one in and torch the other player's base. Or APCs and Radar trucks full of Red Guards and/or rocket soldiers. GLA: Pickup truck loaded with Suicide Bombers or RPG soldiers, or School buses full of RPG soldiers.
I think the biggest problem the Dragon Tank faces is its fuel. It would burn through (hehe) it’s fuel/ammo in an incredibly short amount of time. Although this may be why the designers aren’t overly concerned about the poor placement of the tanks?
Now we need a video on Command & Conquer Red Alert franchise :D :D P.S.: The GLA Scorpion Tank is based on the Italian WW2 tank designs. Like P26 and P40.
About the dragon tank, not just that but also where is the driver seat. I’m imagining it to be at the front, but it looks way too small for anyone to operate it.
I'm surprised you said the Scorpion tank looked T34 inspired. Considering the GLA have to fight with hit and run tactics, the tank would probably be a light tank. Its fast, lightly armoured, and fires a spitball gun with a high rate of fire. So the Panzer 2 is really where I see it's inspiration coming from, but with a higher profile. But I see the T34 resemblance to a degree. As for the Overlord tank, I think it would probably be a siege weapon that fires from a considerable distance similar to what the Ratte tank would have been had anything like that been constructed with any practical application. That's the only way I could see it's duel guns being used appropriately. Two heavy artillery shells coming down and destroying its target with ridiculous power. Potential history's video on the Ratte tank is the only reason I'd consider such a beast of a machine being used. Honestly, I think superheavy tanks, and to a degree Heavy tanks aren't really practical.
Awesome video!! Keep up the great videos!! Wanted to ask will you ever create a video talking or ripping on the tanks from Call of Duty Advanced Warfare? Just thought I ask :b
I think the GLA Scorpion tank 3:43 is inspired by the FT-17 Renault. From the overall body shape, to the large front idler wheel, to the cupola on a cupola design of the turret area, I can't help but see inspiration from the Renault. It also fits thematically. The Renault was the first production tank design to use the configuration we associate with modern main battle tanks, crew in the front, engen in the back, Main armament on a rotating turret, go home Merkava, you're drink. So the GLA couldn't get a more a obsolete hand-me-down than the literal oldest production tank design considered to be a modern main battle tank. What do you think?
To be fair a four tracked twin barreled tank has been a trademark in every C&C game since the original, they had to fit it in somewhere. I always loved the Mammoth Tank from the original.
+1 Sub. I just love how my man Spookston straight up ruined my childhood game with steaming hot facts and logic. I'm nearing my 30's and I have no choice but to agree to your observations. *_Even if the child in me is disagreeing to what you just explained in this video._*
It may look ugly and badly planned, but I really like that era when games like this or especially Homeworld had to show details without actually modelling most of them by using visual tricks with textures.
Really marauder is more of a SPG then a tank and from what i remember of some interviews its concept was originally that it was a vehicles that could use scrap for different upgrades but it ended up just having the tank/SPG config and yeah scorpion i think the rocket upgrade seems a bit inspired by some russian IFV designs mixed with T-34
The insides of most tractors, especially of that size, have enough room for two
that's what she said -_-
@@kabardino1337 your mom?
@@anatolydyatlov6182 ye
Yeah it would be possible
Yeah but, Fucking.
Actually, the GLA's Scorpion Tank is pretty much an Italian P26/40 heavy.
"Heavy"
2and900 - War Thunder Weekly technically, it was designed to be as powerful as the Tiger I and enough armoured to withstand the T-34
The P is from heavy in italian, Pesado
With a 30mm chaingun
@@panzerforelle126 It was designed to be an early 1940s heavy, and compared to say a B1 Bis it was an heavy even weight wise.
But since Italian classification was based on role and not weight, and after discovering the wonders of sloped armour with the T-34, the Italians delayed production to completely remake the design, it was kind of outdated role wise.
And by saying they remade the design I mean that the earlier P40s looked nothing like the late ones. The earliest was planned to weight 25 tons have flat 50 mm thick armour and a 47/32 gun with a 20/65 coaxial, but afterwards they wanted to mount a 6 pounder (Italy was retiring the naval version of that gun and wanted to recycle it on tanks); then they remade it into a 30 ton multi turreted design with 40 mm of slightly sloped armour, a 75/18 in the main turret and a 20/65 in a smaller turret; until finally they settled on the P26 design.
"Preserving Freedom" - Paladin Tank
I always wanted a mod that would change it to "Dispensing Freedom" :
"Enemies of the Free World"
"Paladin Tank in the field"
Scorpion Tank: scorpion ready to sting!
@Lucas Worden Actually i am pretty sure he says buckle up.
Spookston: berates poor vehicle design
Also Spookston: places all his generators as close to each other as possible.
_Well engineered, sir._
US Dozer: "I can build anywhere"
Also US Dozer: "Sorry, I can't build there"
we've been there
🤣🤣
Ooo... can't do that
Damn unions...
😂😂😂
The overlord is just a modern vt1-2
AT least VT1-2 is fast.Overlord is really weak against Aırplane.Its more of a Modern Maus but even an easier target
@@aegeanharrier6648 The Overlord tank can mount a gatling gun on top of the turret to kill aircraft and infantry, but it would still be very slow and a big target, so it just gets killed by artillery.
@@tntproductions1996 Raptors can snipe it before its gatlings had a chance to spool up.
Hanz gott drunk in ze Panzer azembling faktori
@@glacier4286 The F-22 Raptor is an Air Superiority fighter, and while it can do air to ground missions, other aircraft are much more likely to do air to ground attacks. The A-10 would do just fine as long as there are no SAMs in the area. I think the gatling gun can also act as a point defense weapon to shoot down missiles but not bombs or tank shells, kind of like a CIWS on land.
America during lockdown:ak 47’s for everyone
Michigan: *visible sweating*
Yaaaaeeehhhhh........!!!!
Actually, they would probably hand out ar-15s to everyone, because it's more american than the russian assult rifle
COUNTER STRIKE FOR KIDS!
*insert victory sound from fnaf
@@tylerchiu7065 brooo....it has nothing to do with patriotism, people buy all sorts of gun there, but...
youre half-right, huh. that is the most sold gun over there
Chinese Dragon tank.
"I don't see much wrong with this one"
~looks up at the tank~
*God damn, you're tall!*
Also the paladin is a real tank, it's mobile field artillery, that was meant to help replace the old howitzers in heavy field combat
3:54 To me it looks like an M2 medium tank missing its 9 machine guns.
I think it resembles more the M13/40.
The Marauder looks like the TOG 2
When the GLA try to cover both naval and armoured warfare at once.
It's Centurion hull and tracks.
Although TOG 2 is a lot longer and narrower
It looks like a shorter and wider tog 2. There was actually a concept for the tog 3 that looks similar
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMYYYYYY GOOOOOOD. No one ever talks about CCG. It’s the best CC game imo. Thanks so much for making it
I know you don't typically do mod vehicle analysis, but the Contra mod for Generals redesigned all of the vehicles and has quite a few interesting ones such as super units for each faction, anyways, fantastic video.
What about the Rise of the Reds tanks? (Mod for Generals: Zero Hour) some are redesigned and even more units
Especially the addition of European and Russian factions
Edit: There’s also Wiki for the mod which also gives lore of each unit. To make it easier
The twin-gun design is from the Marksman, an anti-air gun vehicle. In that, spacing the guns makes sense since it relies on fast firing and shrapnel to hit fast moving low armored targets.
It also does look badass.
Muzzle breaks have another purpose beyond recoil reduction. The main purpose is to redirect gasses to the sides of the barrel to stop it kicking up too much dust infront of the tank as to not block gunner vision for quick followup shots.
Tom Clansy’s: Endwar tanks next?
Upgraded and stock, they offer weird tactics unlike what the real countries used
#4
Also the American Tank is called the Schwarzkopf, which is what I think the next US design should be called if it's ever made.
If you've taking suggestions, I'd like to see the tanks from Ground Control 1, well, the whole series really.
Ground Control 1 might have a bit of an issue on the polygon count.
There's some pretty good design in there and some..... well, not so good.
What about the Battlemaster ;d ? Its boring I know. A type 69/59 wannabe.
I still have hope for War Front's vehicles. I refreshed the Wikia with 5K screenshots of its vehicles.
I think he didn't do that one because it's a solid design? Then again, he didn't mention the Gattling Tank either...
It`s just a Type 69/59 with a nuclear engine. He would just need a picture of a real one and analyse that
1:08 looks more like the front of an PzKpfw IV to me, especially with the two hatches there for the transmission.
But well it is hard to make high polycount models for a game like that, and even more so back when the game was created. So you just do things like optics or scopes as a texture and have to size tem up so that they are visible.
Thank you for the new shoes!
"Can I have some shoes?"
"I'm hungry"
Sure, lemme just research them at the Black Market...
extra armor basically shoe on trackwheel
Could you discuss the practicality of drop troopers? Like ODST's or Starship Troopers. Maybe also discuss the practicality of metal armor for foot soldiers, such as the armor the marines wear in Halo.
iirc the armor marines wear in halo is designed to not instantly burst into flames on contact with plasma from covenant weapons. Thus the obvious, cheap option: metal and metalized ceramics.
The practicality of drop troops depend 100% on what technology is available. If we assume basically just improved engines and materials compared to what we have today, there would only be two differences between a troop shuttle and a troop pod carrying the same number of troops and materiel: the shuttle would be a much larger and slower target*, and the shuttle can take of again if you have captured sufficient launch facilities. A shuttle would probably be more expensive to build and maintain, but that depends on what type of automation and production technologies exist, and you'll need one pod for every single deployment while a shuttle can be used again and again, so the cost could very much be either way.
With some improved engine technologies, like fusion or metallic hydrogen, the shuttle can likely carry enough fuel to not just land and then fly of again, but also move significant distances in the atmosphere (allowing you to drop them far from the warzone and just fly in under jet power) and provide close air support to it's troops, while a pod can't. On the other hand, such technologies allows a pod to be made heavier, so it can carry dedicated atmospheric support craft and be armored enough to act as an impromptu stronghold.
Fancier space opera technologies, like gravity manipulation, faster-than-light travel, mass manipulation, inertial damperners, etc, could further change the playing field. If inertial compensation or similar allow your troops to survive _any_ kind of deceleration and acceleration forces, then a drop "pod" could be made to essentially be an orbit-to-ground bunker-piercing artillery shell that you've crammed a few soldiers into: pretty hard to beat in terms of getting boots on the ground, and if proper warships and carriers can land on planets there's no need to have shuttles to retrieve them, and the carrier itself can provide close air support (depending on specifics and doctrine, fighters and interceptors might still be needed to establish air superiority). In Titanfall, drop pods are fired from geosynchronous orbit, then make an FTL jump to just high enough that they can decelerate, largely eliminating the risk of being shot down, while dropships act gunship and evac. If Star-Trek-style beaming or Stargate-style ring platforms become a thing, then both shuttles and drop pods are impractical since you can just teleport your troops and all their vehicles from the ship and back.
And regardless of what technologies are on the table, there will likely be many different roles that need to be fulfilled, which will necessitate either specialized platforms that can do their job really well, or multi-purpose platforms that are mediocre at everything.
*because the shuttle has to survive the descent - a pod doesn't because it's single-use, only the soldiers inside need to survive.
Vaelophis Nyx That’s true, however the marines were shown to have been fitted with metal plates during the war of insurrection, before the covenant attacked. They would have been fighting other humans using kinetics and bullets, yet they still had metal plate armor. Somehow that made it lighter and stronger
"The commander's cupola is also a very large issue - it's less of a cupola and more of a giant box"
How could I missed this detail for so long. lol
It's kinda funny the vehicles in C&C seem to get more cartoonist as the game series went on. Makes the tanks easier to identify when they are so small on screen but it still feels like something I would draw in grade school note book.
From Gundam the Type 61 tank?
It's originally from a 40 year old show. But has had some alterations and fixes with reworks throughout it's history. The version we've been using/on the wiki is the version from the mid 90's and early 2000's.
The wiki is quite humble and even goes on about it's major flaws as a tank. Hell, there's also a decent amount of refrence art and source material (even some games) so you can get a good look at it.
Thanks TH-cam for not showing me the content from this creator for A FRICKIN MONTH
one extra weakness on the tractor is how easy the tyres are to take out
I never thought I would here the words “it’s a parody of the war on terror” but here I am
From what I know, Crusader and Paladin were supposed to be so automated, they'd be operated by a single pilot. This doesn't explain the abysmal amount of hatches tho
The marauder doesn't have a turret, it has to rotate to fire.
The Scorpion seem to me like it's based on ww2 Italian light tanks? It also looks like it has rivoted armor
I just noticed, the Crusader tank has the hatches of a Panzer III on it's front hull. One appears to be a split-hatch design taken straight from the Pz. III's turret, and the other hatch on the tank's left seems to be an emergency escape hatch that was in the side hull of the Pz. III under the tracks.
i'm just glad this game still is relevant to this day wherein there are tons of video games from pc to mobile.
5:00 "Unless they can fit a second guy in there somehow"
Every single vehicle in Generals is crewed by only one person, since a single infantryman is enough to operate an unmanned vehicle, ranked up US vehicles always spawn only one pilot each, Jarmen Kell can instantly snipe the operator of any ground vehicle, and Hijackers can instantly take over them.
The GLA's Scorpion is almost identical to the WW2 Italian L6/40.
According to the booklet that came with the game, the GLA scorpion tank is a repurposed and repaired WW1 tank. Which particular one I can't say, but it is very reminiscent of a Renault F1. However, as other people have said, it could be a P-40.
The Marauder tank isn't based off of any tank. It's supposed to be built entirely from the ground up out of scrap metal. Hence why the driver is so obsessed with collecting scrap. A fact accentuated by the note that there was supposed to be a third upgrade, but it didn't make it in.
Also, if you notice, the Marauder never rotates it's "turret", and it's upgrades make the turret so massive, it wouldn't be able to move anyway. It's not a tank, it's an assault gun.
muzzle break isn't just to handle the recoil. it causes the gases to go to the side and leave a open view. instead of waiting for the smoke to clear.
Marauder is Centurion hull and improvised turret.
Doubt you'll see this, but can you do a video on Gears of War? Specifically the Centaur tank and Armadillo APC, since they're actually in the games?
3:49 It looks like an Italian Carro Armato P-40 from WW-2. And no, it doesn't look like a T-34. Not only it has a different cannon to the kind used in the T-34 (and different turret as well), but also the transmission system and the armor placement are different).
Tanks don't have muzzles not because of handling recoils. It is because of using new sub-caliber ammunition. Muzzles forcing these ammo activating earlier than it should. And Muzzle make tank reducing its disguising during battle. For example WW2 Germany Tanks had Muzzle and they were big and heavy enough. But they used cumulative shells mostly. So if we imagine that this tank uses other than sub-caliber shells then Muzzle can be.
OH BOY HERE IT IS
This game took a large chunk of my childhood.
5:07 its adorable when such an objective YTber gets even a bit subjective :D
All we need now is a Red Alert video and it'll complete the holy trinity of C&C
Gotta be honest a lot of exaggerated bits like huge slits on textures or real bulky bits are a deliberate artistic thing with how low poly this game is. When making assets low poly, its best to enhance the bits to give them visibility, especially from a bird's eye view when everything is zoomed out.
Always thought that the scorpion tank was based on the renault ft17
1:25 or that can just be an access panel for other things. I know that the Stryker has an access panel right in front of the driver’s hatch but that’s an access panel for things that isn’t the transmission. I mean the crusader tank doesn’t look like it has drive sprockets on the front ant it looks more like an idle wheel so it doesn’t really imply that the transmission is up front.
I still play this ocassionally in 2020 the nostalgia. Ngl i played this when i was 7yrs old cuz i saw my dad playing it and it looked fun
If I remember right, the Marauder's turret didn't even rotate, it was fixed in place, at least after the upgrades.
It never rotated. It was a self-propelled gun
Honestly, the designs in C&C Red Alert would make the best video. Everything is so crazy.
I'm surprised you didn't go into the BIG, FLAT, EMPTY target space on top of the overlord or it's variations where that space becomes things like a mobile bunker.
Have you done the vehicles from Command and conquer: Tiberium sun? You mentioned somewhere in your hover tank video that a hovering rocket artillery vehicle could be plausible, and the GDI in that game have something called a hover MLRS.
You should take a look on the metal slug series vehicles, and it's probably worthy for multiple videos. They've got a LOT of weird designs.
Amazing to see love for this game! Great video
some tanks have transmission upfront to further increase crew protection, like the Merkava. Thats a tank used against guerrilla warfare.
The first stage of the Marauder Tank
looks a bit like a TOG II
Would be cool if you also talk about the other C&C universes.
The GLA scorpion tank is actually an Italian m13/15 medium tank from ww2, or a P.43
Dude you missed the Battlemaster tank
fucking hell, generals was my childhood and i still love it
The very likely design flaw of the vehicles is that all vehicles that needs multiple personnel to operate only needs just one to drive and shoot. If you played the game you might already noticed it just using jarmen kell to kill the person inside that vehicle which for some reason the sniper rifle is very effective to all vehicles if his ability is ready (note that he's not using AT-rifle, maybe) or hijackers that could get in vehicles VERY easily or find a already abandoned vehicle and put any single unit (even if not experienced driver) in order to maneuver it and give it orders.
Oh and forgot to mention having to reload the tanks.
Hey Spookston i love your videos and i just wanted to give a suggestion for some video game tanks/vehicles to review. I thought it could be cool to look at the vehicles in Unreal Tournament 3, there is a main battle tank (Goliath) and some other combat vehicles like the Scorpion, Hellbender and Paladin as well as the Leviathan which is a bit crazy and not really a tank but still a cool design.
Good video Spooks! I have a request, could you take a look at the vehicles from Homeworld : Deserts of Kharak? The Coalition in the game have all wheeled units, while the Gaalsiens have all hovercrafs. Since it's a desert, I want to know your take on that.
I think the GLA Scorpion is designd from the Italian second world war M15 medium tank, I cant explain why but the design is very similar
Don't know if anyone else pointed this out, but the Marauder doesn't have a turret, it's casemate.
The Shockwave mod restores some cut content and adds some new designs. Maybe check that one out?
you have to take play visibility into account, the slots are only that big so the player can see them
Gun dealer: AKS FOR EVERYONE
that one single lone worker (maybe goddamn slave): please i just want 2 pairs of shoes goddamn it
The dragon tank, designed by the same team that brought you classics such as the Ford Pinto
To be fair, no one use "Tanks" in C&C Generals anyway because there're other vastly better options when it comes to vehicles:
USA: Humvee loaded with rocket soldiers and snipers.
China: Gatling tanks and sprinkle some Dragon tanks in if you think you can sneak one in and torch the other player's base. Or APCs and Radar trucks full of Red Guards and/or rocket soldiers.
GLA: Pickup truck loaded with Suicide Bombers or RPG soldiers, or School buses full of RPG soldiers.
Great! next: c&c generals rise of the reds mod
I think the biggest problem the Dragon Tank faces is its fuel. It would burn through (hehe) it’s fuel/ammo in an incredibly short amount of time. Although this may be why the designers aren’t overly concerned about the poor placement of the tanks?
Now we need a video on Command & Conquer Red Alert franchise :D :D
P.S.: The GLA Scorpion Tank is based on the Italian WW2 tank designs. Like P26 and P40.
About the dragon tank, not just that but also where is the driver seat. I’m imagining it to be at the front, but it looks way too small for anyone to operate it.
Wait, you missed the Battlemaster tank, but it was basically the only realistic tank in there.
I'm surprised you said the Scorpion tank looked T34 inspired. Considering the GLA have to fight with hit and run tactics, the tank would probably be a light tank. Its fast, lightly armoured, and fires a spitball gun with a high rate of fire.
So the Panzer 2 is really where I see it's inspiration coming from, but with a higher profile. But I see the T34 resemblance to a degree.
As for the Overlord tank, I think it would probably be a siege weapon that fires from a considerable distance similar to what the Ratte tank would have been had anything like that been constructed with any practical application. That's the only way I could see it's duel guns being used appropriately. Two heavy artillery shells coming down and destroying its target with ridiculous power.
Potential history's video on the Ratte tank is the only reason I'd consider such a beast of a machine being used. Honestly, I think superheavy tanks, and to a degree Heavy tanks aren't really practical.
Very detailed video! Well done! :)
Maybe check out the tanks in the just cause series, I found they were surprisingly well designed.
You didn't talk about the battlemaster and the Gatling tank though?
What to say about the Battlemaster? It's a T-55
Awesome video!! Keep up the great videos!!
Wanted to ask will you ever create a video talking or ripping on the tanks from Call of Duty Advanced Warfare? Just thought I ask :b
I think the GLA Scorpion tank 3:43 is inspired by the FT-17 Renault. From the overall body shape, to the large front idler wheel, to the cupola on a cupola design of the turret area, I can't help but see inspiration from the Renault. It also fits thematically. The Renault was the first production tank design to use the configuration we associate with modern main battle tanks, crew in the front, engen in the back, Main armament on a rotating turret, go home Merkava, you're drink. So the GLA couldn't get a more a obsolete hand-me-down than the literal oldest production tank design considered to be a modern main battle tank. What do you think?
YOU FORGOT THE TURRETS ON THE OVERLORD
Ach
Putting chain guns on them was so broken.
The Scorpion looks like a modernized Renault Ft-17.
The Scorpion looks like a damn Renault FT-17.
GLA's postal service still delivers
To be fair a four tracked twin barreled tank has been a trademark in every C&C game since the original, they had to fit it in somewhere. I always loved the Mammoth Tank from the original.
This was my childhood.
+1 Sub.
I just love how my man Spookston straight up ruined my childhood game with steaming hot facts and logic. I'm nearing my 30's and I have no choice but to agree to your observations.
*_Even if the child in me is disagreeing to what you just explained in this video._*
It may look ugly and badly planned, but I really like that era when games like this or especially Homeworld had to show details without actually modelling most of them by using visual tricks with textures.
For a game that came out in 2003, the models still look beautiful. I think it might be the sharp lines and vibrant colors.
@Spookston, you should do a everything wrong with the tank(s) from XXX: state of the union.
Also, the tank that looks like an “advanced” abrams was later updated and used in transformers 2007 to portray the decepticon Brawl.
Really marauder is more of a SPG then a tank and from what i remember of some interviews its concept was originally that it was a vehicles that could use scrap for different upgrades but it ended up just having the tank/SPG config and yeah scorpion i think the rocket upgrade seems a bit inspired by some russian IFV designs mixed with T-34
Gotta love the Battlemaster with an autoloader that can shoot three shells in a second and half lol, it's my favorite tank actually.
i love theyre design it looks so strong
I almost forgot the Paladin has a turret.
Any chance you could do a video on the various armored cars and attack helicopters/aircraft of the just cause series?
iirc, scorpion tank's design is based on the italian tank P 40 and the german tank Panzer 38(t)
Thank you Spooks. Thank you for doing this. ❤️
I've seen something at Bovington that's a dead ringer for the Scorpion tank. Can't remember what it is though.
Please take a look at Battletanx Global Assault. Definitely some interesting tank designs in that game.