Doom II But Something's Not Right - Part 6: MAP21-MAP25 (Blind Ultra-Violence 100%)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- Game: Doom II
PWAD: D2TWWRI.wad
Difficulty: Ultra-Violence
Source port: PrBoom+ UMAPINFO (-complevel 2)
Pistol start.
Blind (never played or seen the maps before).
All kills and secrets.
No saves.
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Link to WAD:
www.doomworld.com/idgames/lev...
Link to source port:
github.com/coelckers/prboom-p...
Widescreen status bars:
forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...
Doom II Minor Sprite Fixing Project:
www.doomworld.com/idgames/gra...
00:00 Introduction
00:09 MAP21: Nevermind
07:11 MAP22: Lethal Compass
13:40 MAP23: Do A Barrel Roll
20:46 MAP24: Filled with Mighty Juice
35:36 MAP25: Bloodbath - เกม
decino: "I love this map! If only I could remember where everything is..."
Also decino: "This map sucks! Also, the mapmaker added 2 more health bonuses than the original and these shotgun shells are 18 units too far north."
Pretty much! He totally could remember everything from the maps he hated but nothing of the one he likes xD. Lol
@Turbine2k5 lmao!
@@Kingdramana Isn't there some sense in that though? We typically tend to remember stuff that agitates and annoys us more, so in terms of game mapping we remember that which is not as good (and perhaps by proxy forces us to play more often). Barrels of Fun is definitely a good example in my case, and I'm probably not alone, because the beginning is hell.
Interviewer: So, what important life lesson did you learn from Doom?
Decino: What the Hungarian flag looks like...
😝😝😝😝
To be honest I thought he called it the Hungarian room because it was a concrete hellscape
@@doomerrasa8475 I can tell from personal experience that this applies to pretty much all of East/Southeast Europe :P
Only an eurodude will know that
@@doomerrasa8475 As a Hungarian I can agree with this.
21:00 "This is actually looking quite good, but there's still something really off."
...In other words, it's Doom 2, but something's not right!
*roll credits*
*plays Seinfeld theme*
Papa Deci's reaction to when the beat fully dropped on the "Countdown to Death" remix gave me life.
That was a Supercharge delivered straight to the aorta at mach 4.
Why he doesnt like the original song i like it
@@CabezasDePescado Because the original one is quite repetitive and barely progresses if at all. It's the kind of song that will drive you insane after a short while as each set of measures feel like a duplicate of the last one. This remix has progression, a payoff at the end, power chords, and harmonics.
It's comforting to know even a veteran like decino can get jumpscared by an Archvile
I agree with you.
Well if one expects to exit, but instead rockets oneself in the face on an Archvile, I can see that being a bit of a surprise.
@@JVerschueren
Facerocket is never a surprise.
The rest of the map was perfect, so it was understandable for him to not expect an archvile that was placed there as a gag.
I thought it was coincident playing for a second there
Filled With Mighty Juice has to be a reference to the Tenacious D song Wonderboy that ends with; "There! The crevass! Fill it! With your mighty juuuuuuuice!"
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It's hilarious that the MIDI for Barrel's of Fun is straight up Alice in Chains - Them Bones, even moreso than the Doom II original!
Well, Them Bones is easily 5x better than Bye Bye American Pie
11:41 Truly a Coincident moment right there.
That Nirvana remix was really good!!
Yep, neat facerocket!
"Let's kill those Chaingunners... Oh nevermind, they've killed themselves"
I chuckled a bit on this part.
That Nirvana mix ruled! While going against the spirit of the project to a degree, it's *Nirvana*. Might as well have some liberty with this map of all things
I loved that remix. Nice treat considering how accurate the "proper" part was in the first place.
"I just hump walls, is an instinctive thing to do"
"decino, circa 2022"
Man's gotta mark his territory
Some insight into this project:
Mappers get a limited number of playthroughs to go through a map. They are also given permission to take a quick look at the map before they start mapping if they need to see how an effect was pulled off or how a room is constructed, but this is supposed to be limited, and some people will pay attention to different details than others.
You can kind of see how the different mappers focus their attention. Also ,there will probably be a world of difference in terms of accuracy between a mapper who already knows the maps well and just needs to use their playthroughs to nail the specifics (grabbing things like monster counts and thing placement, texture choices, or dimensions and relative light levels) in their playthroughs, while others might just go for a generalized feel of it, resulting in a more cursed map.
I think it's really interesting to see the differences.
Honestly that explains a lot. People have mentioned both in the doom 1 and doom 2 maps some of the map details seem too insane to have remembered if the author in question didn't actually just play through...
@@doomerrasa8475 They definitely played through. I contributed maps to the TNT project with only two or three playthroughs beforehand and maybe a two minute peek in UDB in the middle, and aside from some dimensions, monster placements, and minor shapes, they're pretty accurate, but they're also maps that I knew pretty well before I started building them.
That kills a bit of the fun, doesn't it?
You know a map is forgettable when the only thing people remember is a weirdly textured cube
I feel almost as alienated as a Map21 fan, because I latched onto Map25 from the first time I ever played Doom2.
This rendition was missing so much...
Nirvana is definitely one of the maps of all time
Every know flakes diner is green
This joke is so played out
Indeed.
the map ever
Wow. Nevermind is the first map in the set where I would legitimately not have recognized something was off. And I ended up playing Nirvana a lot when I was a kid just because it was map 21. The rest of the maps so far have been wildly cursed for me so far, mostly because of incorrect proportions. It's really weird watching somebody else completely miss differences that are incredibly obvious to you yourself.
What amazes me is that not every map ends up like "Courtly Hate" from the last video...
Alternative title for the wad: Doom II but decino has to discern when he is being gaslit
I like this Barrel's O' Fun. Very plutonia-esque
"I just hump walls, it's an instinctive thing to do" the most wrong and hilarious thing to hear
Are you implying that you don't?
The wall in Barrels o' Fun in the Pain Elemental room, if I recall, raises when a bullet hits it in OG Doom 2.
Ahh, that would explain why the timing always feels different...
4:40 Looks more like the Bulgarian room rather than the Hungarian room now.
I'm not sure, but title of MAP24 might be a reference to the song "Wonderboy" by Tenacious D. The only question is why exactly this map is named like that. Also Bloodfalls somehow actually look better than the original.
It looks better because it's not stupidly dark. And the texture work on the jade marble sections is a tad fancier.
I figure it's because the lyric immediately before it is "there, the crevasse!"
Crevasse -> chasm.
WoooOOOooonnderbooooooyyyyyyyyy what is the seecret of your poowwweeerrrrrrr WooOOOndeerboyyyyyy won’t you take me far awayyy from the mucky muck yeaahhhhhh
@@Lierofox yeah they're high above the mucky muck too, until they fall into it for a bfg and a secret
All of you in this comment thread are INDEED heretics, because neat and eerie little Bloodfalls was always one of my favorites.
It should've been earlier in the list though. Like Map21 or 22 itself.
That Blood Falls recreation is about a million times brighter than the original.
It removed one of the things it had going for it. A sense of mystery and of being in a quiet spot between spaces, or in the shadow of something bigger.
@@MrCantStopTheRobot map still kinda sucks tho
These maps recreated from memory are some of my favorite Decino videos. Love them!
That being said - I must make a playthrough suggestion here - the DOOM ZERO wad, and the Four Seasons wad. Holy shit does Decino need to play Four Seasons.
Can we just put some love on that dodge at 5:03 👏🏻
I love that question "Can I kill you from there?". I imagine revenant answer "Yeah, sure, go ahead" :D
The worst thing in that WAD is that I started to forget how the original maps looked like.
I want them to make "Doom 2 But Nothing's Right" and it's a mix of famous maps from other WADs replacing all 32.
Barrels proper made me rage. You handled the dickishness of certain extra enemies quite well :P
14:14 the barrel teleported away while exploding, amazing! i wonder if that can be done reliably in a custom map, so you can troll the player by sending an already exploding barrel to them
Plutonia MAP14 does that kind of.
@@decino Stardate20X6 map 31 definitely does that too
Whenever he's punching a demon to death with his bare fists I imagine the old DOOM comic except instead of the DOOMGUY shouting about guts and messes it's a pumpkin-headed marine calmly talking about what he's doing out loud.
"This musn't register on an emotional level. First, a quick punch on this Imp, followed by a left hook on this Pinky..."
@@AB0BA_69 "We can do some ripping and tearing, but then we need these plasma cells"
Love the music in "Nevermind" a major improvement! 😊🎶7:56 "Lethal compass" Yep, it's definitely a faithful recreation alright! 😰For the most part, assuming the map maker didn't peak that was impressive. "Do a Barrel roll" I love Barrels of fun it's my favorite DooM II map, I've been looking forward to seeing this one. 😊Map 24 well played indeed, some nasty surprises in that one. I actually don't remember "Blood Falls" myself. I wouldn't know if that was accurate or not. 😅 Nicely played decino. 🙂💛
i loved that countdown to death remix it’s just so out of nowhere
Mapper for the Barrels O Fun recreation here. I joined the project because a friend recommend me to do so. Initially I was gonna try to stay close as much as possible, but I soon got disillusioned with the whole wad concept and ended up improvising what I couldn’t remember. I am certain the map isn’t mirrored tho.
I think "do a barrel roll" is a starfox 64 reference. I haven't played that game in a good 20 years lol
Although interesting, you don't actually barrel roll.
I am mapper of MAP25.
Was joined to this community project very accidentally while having a huge urge to mapping.
That was last free slot and I was lucky that this map was really memorable to me.
To be honest, I also remembered that stupidity empty secret, so I decided to put a yummy reward here in a way of BFG-9000.
And yes, mappers was allowed to take a little peak to the original map, but I am not used this possibility. My memories was in the first and only place.
Containers Of Excitement
Chasm is also one of my favorite Doom2 maps, glad to see it was done well.
Hey, great interview on An Evening with Nirvana, I really enjoyed listening. 👍
35:09 This is a reference to the song 'Wonderboy' by Tenacious D - the final lyrics of the song are "There! The crevasse! Fill it! With your mighty juice~"
The mastermind fight on map 23 is a good representation of how that encounter felt like when playing as a kid back then
Ooh boy! It's Nirvana! I put my money on Nirvana being an ungodly cursed mess to rival Map 15. Let's see!
Edit: welp, now I'm a skeleton without money. All things considered it's like 0.9 to 1 as a recreation. I was expecting it to be a meme or something.
Smallest channel i watch, also my favorite channel ♡
I hop you prepared for the living end because That map kicked me out more than I can count Good Luck decino. :)
Been waiting on this. Barrels o fun is my favorite doom 2 map
The most memorable part of Bloodfalls was the blood fountain where the revenant was perched, which here was a boring green pillar. Shame.
The Chasm remake was an interesting, if somewhat inaccurate take. Loved the exit being an opening into a bloody Hellscape.
Loving these!
Original Nirvana's megasphere wasn't a secret either btw, but from the other hand, MAP22 didn't have an archsurprise, too, that was a fun addition to the faithfully recreated map
First time I watch your videos to cheer me up😢
Watching you and drinking coffee is a best start of a day that I can even imagine, Decino.
Decino forgetting that the original nirvana also had no secrets is a testament to how forgettable the original is
Nice video senpai
39:55 -- I love how the doors closed in time with the music XD
Nevermind indeed.
You playing Nirvana! And actually not vomiting to it! I am shocked actually! xD. This was pretty fun to watch. Man that Nirvana remix sounded cool though!
In Bloodbath, sounds like you said there isn't a shotgun in the start of the area. If I can, the shotgun guy isn't supposed to be there yes, but the Super Shotgun is suppose to be there, but no ammo. The shotgun guy is supposed to teleport in when you make a sound from him walking into the teleport in the blood fall in front of you when you start. I love and enjoyed this level from the music from the original. Alice In Chains Angry Chair. It's how I remember it. It's used in Plutonia map 25 too.
I'm with you on this rare opinion. It's straightforwardly spooky and mysterious. Neat and small.
I feel Bloodfalls would get more love if it were a bit earlier in the game, or if it had appeared in Doom 1.
It doesn't belong so near the end of Doom 2, unless it could receive a big boost in monster population. Like a low-ammo teleported horde fight in the starting room... and possibly also a run-thr-gantlet, using those firing-port windows along the staircase.
Been weeks since the last series uploaded but here we are again. Loved some stuff included on the maps specially that remix style midi in Nirvana. That archvile on the exit is unexpected though xD
The MIDI for the first level should have been “Smells Like Nirvana” by Weird Al Yankovic.
That Archvile was the Doom version of a Kaizo Block
18:07 you took a huge risk of getting squished there...
I heard the door-closing sound. If a lowering ceiling plays that sound it won't crush you.
Just finished supper going to grab dessert and beer to watch this.
Holy darn the beat drop on the Nirvana remix... was not expecting that and it's really well done. Also also, stop Coining yourself at the end of maps. In case that verb did not exist, it does now 😆
A Decino upload is like a cold shot of Frangelico on a warm Christmas morning. Delicious as fuck and right on time.
I wasn't expecting the death and it really got me by surpise :D
That them bones midi is badass
Countdown to Death here is probably the best midi mix out of all of these
Those poor Chaingunners in Nirvana, they had so much to live for. Lol.
23:16 "I do wish I had a super ahotgun." (phone dings)
Phone: Doordash is here with your shotgun order.
I'm having enough of a fever dream without all these cursed maps! @.@
Oh old nightmare chaingunner hell. Poor Peter...
We are celebrating our independence week here in my country. I'm very drunk and came to home and the notification tell me about your new video. Best way to end the day: Watching decinos videos wastef.
The messenger "ding" at 23:10 caught me off guard haha
We were playing a drinking game - drink every time Decino says, “cursed”. Most of us died. I narrowly survived due to my drink being nonalcoholic... but I now have diabetes from drinking so much Coke.
Mtpain27 said in his dean of doom review for this that the pain elemental room in map 23 is the toughest in doom 2
I love the chasm!!
The nirvana episode is here!! Wooooo!
"Nevermind" 🤣
It smells like teen spirit.
Hope there’s more of these
Wow, I really want that remix of Countdown to Death, that's really great.
This is the wad of all time
Oh my god, that rendition of Countdown to Death by Pcorf on MAP21... I love it.
That was a huge upgrade for Nirvana. Might just steal that one.
Lol at 11:40! Doomguys death was so awesome he decided to bop and chill to the music lol.
Loved map 22 in this one. Gibbing imps and chaingunners with berserk punches will never not be one of the most satisfying things in classic Doom lol. 👊🏻
That mini heart attack at 11 37
😂😂😂
oooooooooh a new decino video yaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Se ve prometedor el mapa 24 como lo vio Pistoolkip
finished this wad earlier
honestly pretty good, i thought the most accurate one was 31. Also i love the midi for 23 despite it being cursed
As a Hungarian myself, I was utterly surprised to learn the nickname for the penultimate area of Nirvana, today years old. (I'm almost 29)
It's so weird playing this wad and trying to remember how the originals looked like between seeing these and also having memories of Maps of Chaos.
From Wonderboy; There! The crevasse! Fill it! With your mighty juice!
"Filled With Mighty Juice" is probably a reference to the song Wonderboy by Tenacious D, wherein the final line of the song is "There, the crevasse, fill it / With your mighty juice"
The countdown song slaps, would made me enjoy playing nirvana for sure just for the midi
Deathless run ends on the hardest cursed map. No one will judge you, Pumpkin Man.
Some pretty decent recreations. Kuddos for the map makers. Lol at facerocket 😎
That end to 22 was not expected! First, I too am sad the chaingunners weren't blind. Second, that archvile placement was evil!
“Filled With Mighty Juice” could be a reference to “Tribute” by Tenacious D where Jack Black says “There, the crevasse! Fill it with your mighty juice!”, drawing a connection between “Chasm” and “Crevasse”
Though a crevasse is different to a chasm, if this is the map maker’s intent I can respect the reference
"There's the crevasse (chasm)! Fill it! With your mighty juuuuuice!" Wonderboy by Tenacious D.
To possibly explain the alternate title of Map 24, 'Filled with Mighty Juice':
There's a few lines towards the end of Tenacious D's song 'Wonder Boy.'
*There, the crevasse,
Fill it with your mighty juice.*
Crevasse and Chasm are close in terms of definition. Bit of a stretch but, maybe it's the closest we'll ever get to the truth?
Random dude in 2352:
"And for my next hobby project, I'll recreate decino from memory. "
"hmm.. how many eyes did it have again ?"
"Oh god.. no what have i done.. why does it honk and brrrrrrrrr all the time"
Hey decino, the title "Filled With Mighty Juice" I'd bet is a reference from Tenacious D's song Wonderboy, where the last lines of the song go "There! The crevasse! Fill it! With your mighty juuuuice" cuz the word crevasse basically means chasm, and this Doom 2 chasm is indeed filled with juice lol