On that yellow egg clutch the staff 100% drew "Things that are Yellow" (probably cause of the eggs) as you've got a giraffe, a bee, banana and a lemon.
The angry calls are a step too far. You can disagree with the practice, but this experiment does have the ultimate result to help other snakes and is not unnecessary cruelty. Doing this experiment knowingly is far better than continuing down the path of ignorance and losing other babies. Also, there's a reason snakes lay so many eggs at once--because most babies won't survive.
I wouldn’t say step too far. While I agree it should be done to see the results and potentially protect future snakes. Why should they pick and choose which snakes are worth living more than others and which should be put in danger because their lives aren’t valued as such. It’s like playing god and that’s why some people weren’t pleased at all with the experiment.
@@neverlandhunter6988 What they dont seem to grasp is Humans by definition play god on a daily basis. Dog breeders breed dogs for features such flat face's in dogs like French Bulldogs, Pug's and many others. Puppies from those litters who dont have the flat face are often culled to keep the not flat face out of the world. Rescue Kennels have to make the choice of which dogs, cat, other animals to rehome and which to put to sleep. Doctors keep humans alive with medicine and science all the time essentially playing god with our lives. Scientist's come up with more things to keep us alive on the daily. The List is endless, unless you live under a rock your going to constantly be running in to someone playing god with one thing or another.
@@mrnowak2835 Unfortunately to do the experiment they HAVE to pick a clutch to do it on. Of course they won't use a clutch that is either a new species for them, a fancy morph they've been working on for years or a clutch that's part of a breeding project (like the secret hognose clutch). They also can't use a clutch the was mostly slugs as for one the sample size will be rather small and secondly a clutch being mostly slugs could lead you to think the rest have a higher chance to go bad. The Bullsnake clutch chosen just simply fit the criteria. The whole clutch was laid looking perfectly healthy, no slugs or slightly iffy eggs at all. There was also a nice little sample size of 11 eggs to do a nearly 50/50 of black marker vs orange. I can understand feeling annoyed and feeling like they're picking and choosing which are worthy and such. But like I said they have to pick one to do the experiment on to try and get as accurate results as they can. That's just the hard truth of it.
@@mrnowak2835 So you agree that it needs to be done, but you're concerned that they picked eggs for it to be done...there's literally no other way to do it. Am I misunderstanding you? Because your comment about "playing god" suggests that you may be confused about something.
If the orange pen had caused issues, it'd be a lesson for every breeder and could have saved thousands of snake eggs as people learn not to use coloured markers. It's worth risking 6 snakes I think.
I'm surprised some people got really upset with the orange sharpie experiment. I understand that it would be disappointing if all of the orange marked eggs went bad, thus strongly suggesting that it does effect the hatch rate. But the only way to find out for certain is to experiment, just like also this year Snake Discovery has done a lot of "clump" incubations to see if the hatch rate differs much compared to separating the eggs. Unfortunately that experiment hasn't gone the best, like half of Brad's eggs went bad. But the only way to learn these things is to experiment, that's how we get a better understanding of things and can ensure better results in the future.
@@robyngatomon1991 It's difficult and understandable to be upset, but the reality is that doing an experiment like that could prevent far greater future suffering.
@@robyngatomon1991It would be far worse if they continued using colored markers for years, not knowing there was an issue because it was only one color affecting the eggs and thus difficult to make the connection. Seems like it’s better to use one clutch to determine if the marker is safe, rather than use who knows how many eggs over the next several years.
@@robyngatomon1991of course its sad that the snake wouldve had to suffer, but then everyone would know not to use orange marker on eggs, so more snakes don‘t have to.
I get why some people are upset. But now, every breeder can know to avoid orange markers. I also wish this could have been confirmed without harming baby snakes.
Found some five-lined skink eggs in a bad place earlier this month and, thanks to your egg videos, I knew what to do to incubate them. All 11 hatched into beautiful, healthy babies!
If the Sharpie experiment potentially saves future eggs, it's not something to make angry calls about. Plus, black has more colors in it than orange, so I find it unlikely that orange would kill the eggs.
For things like dyes, black isn't achieved by just putting all the other pigments together. Specific pigments and chemicals are used for each colour, so there is a chance something in one colour could be harmful even if the other colours aren't.
@@DragonFae16 True, Sharpies are dye-based, not pigment-based, but the black still has more dye than orange. You can test this by dripping a bit of rubbing alcohol on a line of each on strips of paper. Also, both colors conform to ASTM D-4236. Based on the swatches I made, the dyes in each are different from each other, but that's why each color gets tested for safety. While the Art & Creative Materials Institute probably doesn't have snake eggs in mind, a test like this not a bad idea.
The reason they picked orange to test, if you remember or saw that egg laid video, was because in the past couple years, the eggs they had used orange on and videoed start to finish, had a higher percentage of going bad.
It's definitely worth keeping in mind that we have no reason to suspect that black Sharpie is going to be "safer" than a different colored Sharpie. It's been the standard for snake breeders to use because black sharpies are available basically everywhere and are cheap, not because there's reason to believe the chemicals in black Sharpie ink are safer on egg surfaces.
One thing I would add is that it's best practice to disinfect your hands after touching/treating eggs in a clutch with mould before handling the next clutch to prevent cross contamination, otherwise you're just smearing mould spores all over clean eggs even if you wiped your hands with a paper towel. Not the end of the world because the eggs have a natural resistance and the air is full of spores anyway but it really would be safer all around to demonstrate not actively cross contaminating clutches
She sprayed her hands between clutches you can see it in the hyper loop if you watch carefully. You see her picking up the spray bottle between each clutch.
@@AngelusGaston I did notice but it wasn't actively mentioned so I decided to bring it up here because its not something that people would necessarily think to do. This video is intended to educate people on how to care for snake eggs and that's a fairly important piece of information that was missing
@@Lilith-Rose She does mention at the start when she is going through all the stuff she uses that its for sterilisation purposes, and anyone who keeps multiple reptiles or animals would be doing hand washes between handling so wouldn't really need reminding about cross contamination.
@@AngelusGaston you would be very surprised at just how ignorant people can be of basic sanitation practices, and by not mentioning it directly during a detailed informational video it gives the impression that it is not a necessary step.
Im GLAD you're doing the experiment because if you don't, how do you know if you're potentially hurting animals or not??? Everyone is like "oh it's fine, its just sharpie" but is it though?? And im glad you're asking that! Also would love to see how the clutch does eating once hatched
exactly. We can't know what we don't know, and you can't make husbandry better on a larger scale if we don't find out what minutia that we're not thinking about might be having an effect on development.
yeah, I've also seen a lot of people say "just don't use anyway instead of testing it" but,, they HAVE been using it for YEARS and uploaded hundreds of videos! people watching and people that will watch will probably use the markers too, so there has to be another video that will pop up to prove otherwise if it ends up bad! if snake discovery stops doing it and says "oh no reason, just because 🤷" then no ones gonna actually listen and keep doing it themselves
I just want to say that by checking on the marker color you could be saving tons of eggs in the future - don't get discouraged from experimenting to make your practices better because people (who often do not have their own snakes or educational center) feel that you are doing it wrong. Also, super excited for hatching season!!!
This is an experiment that benefits the very animal type that is involved in the experiment. I’m so sorry there was bad feedback. If anybody doesn’t deserve this, especially considering how much you do for reptiles, it’s you! The folks like my partner and me who love and actively support you are waaaaay more numerous (and we have prettier noses lol)
I agree, It's an experiment, it has already happened and people arguing isn't going to solve anything at all and they know it. Sometimes experiments are necessary, and they don't always gotta go other people's way. It's reality.
I think the problem is that there is no reason to ever mark eggs with orange. It dosen't happen in nature, it dosen't benefit the eggs, and there are other colors to mark eggs with. Experimenting and learning is important, but only if it is to benefit the animals. I still completely support Snake Discovery, but I think they made a bad decision, and hope they don't do it with other clutches.
@@wildflower1397 you still have to test the other colors though every time you use another color your literally testing if something is going to happen to that egg. Even a small mark could do damage to an UNDEVELOPED egg. How many eggs had to risked so breeders found out that black was OK to use or a certain type of pen was OK to use. This literally isn't a new thing it's been going on since people started to breed snakes its just that Emily wants to show her viewers the whole process.
@angelusgaston5922 Yes! So much this!!! Everyone commenting that orange "could" have harmed the snakes. First of all, they knew going in that the likelihood of it being an issue was so small. The benefit far outweighed the risk! Second, how do you think it was learned that black marker was safe? People "risked" it and tried! That is how scientific progress works! These comments and the criticism is so unwarranted and ridiculous. Third, there could be many reasons that a different colored marker may need to be used. It is very important to mark the top of the eggs to ensure the developing baby doesn't drown if an egg is rattled or moved. So what if the eggs are found and only a colored marker is available? What if there are different species and a breeder wants to delineate between them? What if black markers suddenly are not available? There are always reasons for testing! Bottom line, the risk was nearly non-existent and what was learned by the experiment is very valuable! Stop the nonsense!
@@angelusgaston5922 Just because people tested black in the past, dosen't make it okay to do it again now. Also, there was a valid reason to try it with black. It was benefit to the animal to mark them, so they could be kept upright and not die. Using orange is just for fun or convenience, not for the animal. I am not personally angry about it, but it is somewhat unethical. I suspect many people are sensitive because of the horrible tragedy of past and ongoing animal testing, especially in the cosmetics industry. This is somewhat similar to testing a new orange eyeshadow on a mouse. Also, it comes close to the reproductive health controversy. At what point does the egg become a baby snake in a shell? When does life begin? Are they risking an undeveloped egg, or risking a cute baby snake? It makes sense that people are upset, because it's a grey area on a slippery slope. Many are fighting to teach the public that reptiles deserve the same love, environments, and protections that other pets do. The recent murder of beloved pet snakes by officials in Florida incensed most people in the reptile community. You have the right to your opinoin, and to express it here publicly. Free speech is a beautiful thing. :)
Feels weird that you guys are getting complaints about the experiment clutch. Making sure that future snakes have a better chance of survival with new information is really important.
While I don't have anger, I would say that using sharpie at all - a known toxic ink until it cures - is not necessary. There is really no reason to mark all the eggs with pictures. I used to use pencil when I marked a different egg in the same container as others. It works, though it is very light and fades a little.
I was wondering if next egg season you could candle a few eggs during different stages in incubation? It would be a great opportunity to teach about embryonic development in snakes!
Oooh, this was REALLY informative, seeing the whole gamut of how bad moldy-bad eggs can LOOK, compared to the bullsnake clutches that look PERFECT! And informing us how the the discoloration on the hognoses, the 'windows', are harmless, and just mean they're a bit over-humid, but will survive. REALLY good info to have all in one place, thank you for doing this!
My cornsnake laid yet another surprise clutch two weeks ago and I'm currently incubating the 6 good eggs. Its been 12 years since she was last bred, and 4 of the eggs have healthy veins developing. I love these videos since egg maintenance isn't talked about alot!
Right?! I knew they put on stuff on moldy eggs and threw out bad ones, but I had no idea it's a whole "thing". I thought they just check them once in a while or something 😅
I'm so happy the marker test is going well. I was nervous about orange because of the few eggs before that had gone bad with the orange, but seeing those eggs looking good is so exciting. Finding out if colors affect eggs is so important, thank you for all the work you guys do!
I believe that his experiment was a good thing. How do you think we discovered all the things in our world? So glad they all lived 💚 you guys are awesome!
You helped me know how to incubate eggs. I successfully incubated 3 eggs just green anoles but because of all your videos I felt confident in doing it and did it.
The coloured markers experiment with Dottie's and Barnaby's eggs is necessary indeed to see of any other marker colour than black, contains a chemical affecting survival or development of the baby snakes.
the first ever video I have seen from you two was the "how to prep and care for snake eggs" video so its cool to see how much Snake Discovery has grown
This episode is great, i recently recommended an individual to start watching this channel as they found eggs in the wild and even though he shouldnt have touched them (He was admonished by multiple people) i still wanted to give those eggs the best shot at surviving.
I run a kitten foster and ringworm is SUPER common in the babies that come in. I buy a lot of Canesten laundry detergent and miconazole cream. I'm fairly sure the pharmacists think I have either a raging yeast infection or nasty feet lol.
I think that people forget the old saying "you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet." You can't learn if you don't try, and if you try you have to accept that failure is a part of the equation. This is how we learn everything we've learned from science- when you say hear of a medication and it lists the side effects, everything they listed happened to at least one person in the trials. It's great to see that the eggs are doing well, but if they weren't it was still a needed endeavor because without a proper scientific experiment we wouldn't have facts, just assumptions.
I love how you explain how you care for your animals! They all seem VERY well taken care of. Love your channel can't wait for the hatching of some of these eggs!!
There has been a new product come out in the last five year for chicken eggs called Hatch Rite. I haven't been hatching chicks so I haven't tried it yet. When you set the eggs you mist them with this and it has vitamins and nutrients that are absorbed through the shell and increase the hatch rate. I wonder if it would work on snakes too. Stromberg's has it.
As a student of psychology I appreciate your sharing on experiment study beginning to end results and all components, including viewer comments. God bless
for the end Emily I really appreciate you showing the 'jank' setup to get the footage. I think its a GOOD thing to not have the best expensive equipment because it shows younger viewers who may themselves wanna create content that they dont NEED expensive equipment even at well over 1mil subscribers. Plus there is just something so genuine about using what you have rather then trying to get easier solutions spending money.
This really helped me with my snakes , I had just bought two , thinking both where female , but of course one was male and they ended up breeding and laying a cluch of lavender hoggies! I didn't know they where het lavender XD! But only two didn't make it so I'm glad!
Hi Em and Ed, I always enjoy watching your egg 🥚 videos. I love the different colours that are made after matting. You have some of the best collection I’ve seen ever 🐍 🥚
I love your channel so much I’m so excited for the Hognose asked hatch. I hope there’s going to be a snow. Love your beds. Also, how is 💕Ally doing? Is she still with us? I haven’t seen a video about her in a while.
I watched this channel for years, why didn't I ever realise that you take care of the eggs like that? I always thought you chug them in there and that's it 😂
People calling to rage about the eggs are waaay out of line. As if they think their uneducated opinions matter. Bullying people on the internet because you don’t understand them is so childish. But I’m excited to see these eggs hatch! Thank you for showing us a stage of egg care I had no idea about. :)
My hognose snake layed its first eggs 3 weeks ago. Sadly 4 of the seven eggs already went bad, but I am taking advice from this video and hope the last 3 will make i!!! Pairing was Axanthic conda 66% het Albino x Snow I am really excited !!
I must ask this question again as I am SO curious: Is there a reason you don't ever seem to candle the eggs? To check for veins and ensure the embryo is where it needs to be. I wondered this when we were seeing a lot of questionable eggs first being laid and when we saw some of the mothers moving the eggs. Of course "incubate until there's no debate" is great, but would candling be useful in those situations?
They used to do it in older egg videos. (Like years pre-covid old.) My guess is that even if an egg shows viens, that doesn't mean it will hatch. Also, when you're dealing with the sheer volume of eggs that Ed and Emily are, the time investment to candle all of them might just not be worth it as opposed to just incubating a few additional eggs.
@@kriscook2423a light pad wouldn't work very well because having the light around the egg as well as behind it makes it much harder to see the details you are trying to reveal with having a light behind it
In the old videos they used a combo of their phone flashlights and I think I recall a normal small LED flashlight. I think the other posted is right. Having to wait and check, wait and check,for the 1st few days. And bouncing them on and off heat to look at them is probably less efficient, and more of a risk really, then just following progress. I also wonder with the snake egg need to be stationary vs birds needing rotation it also just wouldn't introduce more risk. They posted a study a while back about hatch rates and turned snake eggs and the results weren't as bad. But the study noted elevated death rates post hatching for rolled eggs.
its so silly you got angry calls about the marker experiment in name of "harm to the animals" when for example Jay is just out there taking fresh babies from their eggs and stuffing them back, like I get wanting to protect snake babies but this feel like the most non-harmful experiment, maybe cuz i was skeptical the color did anything in the first place 😅
I don't understand getting upset over the marker experiment; if the eggs didn't develop properly, then they get tossed and no harm done. Eggs to bad during incubation all the time, it's not "purposefully harming a baby animal" -- the "baby animal" isn't even formed yet, I promise the people bothered by this that it doesn't mind.
THIS. The one person I've seen going off about it in the comments talks about it like they are torturing fully formed, feeling animals. It's a really strange stance to take imo. And while they could just stop using the markers, it wouldn't really help give any extra info/insight on the use to other people who would probably still use them. It felt like a weirdly "pro-life" adjacent argument
I have never had a snake. Or lizard. Or anything close. I don't live in a country with wild snakes. I don't know anyone with a snake and I don't want a snake.... but I'm glued to this channel to the extent I'm learning about how to care for my never-gonna-happen snake eggs. WHY THIS IS SO INTERESTING?!
I was actually curious to see the end result of the Black versus red markers now I'm curious to see if the size of your humidity bins affect because I was watching it it seemed like the larger ones were going bad at a higher rate
That can also be explained because the larger clutch compensates for more expected losses to begin with, but could be possible that the larger bins have less consistent temperature and humidity
How have a lot of the eggs gone mouldy this time around?. Could it be cause of the big incubator being used?.. can’t wait for hatching videos so excited for them 😊
My question as well. It can definitely take trial and error to dial in the incubation techniques. But yes, there is just an inordinate amount of mold going on in those containers. She did say it was too wet. Maybe they can test some egg trays in the container instead of laying the eggs on the perlite directly? Maybe try vermiculite? I guess if hatch rate is not affected, then they don't need to change anything. Looking forward to seeing what happens. BTW, in the wild, colubrid eggs are laid in conditions that are generally dry but humid. Dry-ish substrate but humidity all around it.
I think it might be worth adding lotrimin in the future to individual bad eggs in situations like Brad's eggs- it'll help kill off the fungus having the time of its life over there and help prevent it's spread. Healthy eggs may be resistant, but it feels like a reasonable precaution! Same reason as removing the pearlite that touched the one bad egg from Circus and Monroe- just in case (:
In regards to that clumps of Brad's eggs with the one really bad one stuck to the good ones - would it actually be worth it to cover it (the bad egg) entirely with the lotrimin powder? Not as a way to save the egg since it's definitely a goner, but to prevent the mold from potentially spreading to other eggs? The egg is dead anyways, so there wouldn't be any harm in covering that one completely with the powder. Just an extra preventative measure to try to protect the healthy eggs. If more mold can't grow, then it can't spread!
I can't believe people have gotten so uppity about the orange marker experiment. Makes me feel like they're bored and looking for something to be mad about. Running an experiment on the health of 6 eggs is nothing compared to the many many eggs that die in the wild from natural unavoidable causes. And the many eggs that go bad even with captive breeding. Getting uppity about 6 eggs is ridiculous. I'm glad the experiment is going well!
Thanks for this video! Got my first clutch of hognose eggs this year a couple got mold/fuzzy, might be to late, I can still see the veins in one so will try it on that one. Will be helpful in future clutches for sure at the least.
I think that powder for athletes foot is the same as jock itch powder. Check the info on the back of the bottles. I love your videos. I feel much more comfortable with the idea of snakes now. I actually argued with by brother about killing one. I don't think I'll ever have one as a pet but I can appreciate them now and understand why people love them. Thanks Snake Discovery. I would like to have a Rex for a pet but I've more common sense than that. 😊
Can you please please add a brand new video on how to care for rough green snakes! And explain if foggers are good for them? Is it better to just mist the enclosure? Please!! Love you two! Lots of love from Arizona
I agree with others, the yellow egg theme must be things that are yellow or have yellow in them (like maybe a lemon coloured hognose for the snake? 🤔). Thanks for this educational video! Love all your videos. Even your high tech quick thinking technology part in the end! 😃
I think it is great that you tested the orange marker, for future actions! And also that you tested it on a big enough, but limited amount of eggs to get a good outcome in 1 run. Job well done, the risk was necessary to take
Lol I love watching you work with eggs. You're always so upbeat.... Even if an egg goes bad. You're very much, sucks, it happens, moving on to the good ones in the clutch.
Do you keep a record of count/failure/survival for each clutch? I know sometimes you say "this is her/his third bad clutch" so I assume you are at least keeping a mental record. I've seen your pairing listing kept in a notebook. Have you considered keeping a spreadsheet, just for giggles?
It's really weird how some eggs will be so clearly dead and gone bad, but entire clutches will still look perfect. It's crazy how so many eggs have to be tossed because of that. It's a marvel that any eggs hatch in the wild. Also, those yellow blue beauty eggs were super weird. Are we gonna get a follow-up on those?
Because in the wild, far fewer eggs go bad unless disturbed by a predator or a flood or something. What is shown on this video is the result of captivity. Snakes with poor fertility are either inbred too much or not cycled properly for breeding.
Maybe an ignorant question 😅 but uhm, what if you accidentally throw out a good egg? Could it possibly hatch in the trash? Do you take secondary measures to make sure the slugs and bad eggs are destroyed?
i'm sure it's not completely impossible, however I'd say it's incredibly unlikely. There wouldn't be the sort of humidity and temperature control needed to help the egg develop (not to mention what the egg might come in contact with in the trash). But given that they do tend to try to leave eggs that have even a slight chance of still being good, I'd say in their case it just probably doesn't happen.
13:29 I feel that. I went to Walmart to buy the jock itch cream to treat one of my guinea pig ringworm. It was after my ER shift at 3 am and I didn't it was weird until the self check out monitoring clerks were snickering. I didn't buy anything else 😅
I'm confused about the hognose eggs with windows. You said it's due to humidity, but left the lid covered in condensation? I'm sure there's a good reason, but curious as to what the reason is?
If you go back and listen again, you'll learn that windowing is because of too HIGH humidity, not low humidity, which is why she tries to keep hognose eggs in LOW humidity and commented on the condensation being a bad thing in a previous clutch :) Either way, leaving it won't hurt too much, it just has to dry out some more
@@willothewisp2980 I thought windowing was due to incomplete calcification cause of the mom just having so many eggs she doesn't have the calcium for them all.
@@caterscarrots3407 I think that's another reason but is visible when laid, they are talking about windows that form later in incubation I guess from calcium leeching in high humidity
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On that yellow egg clutch the staff 100% drew "Things that are Yellow" (probably cause of the eggs) as you've got a giraffe, a bee, banana and a lemon.
And goldfish,
Yellow flowers and sombreros are usually cream-yellow colours.
Like a Gold-Shiny effect drawing or smth.
@@elisheva67 Nice! You can say like Yellow Hats or fedoras for ''Sombrero''.
Maybe the hat was the yellow hat from Curious George.
The human in Curious George is only ever named The Man in the Yellow Hat.
The angry calls are a step too far. You can disagree with the practice, but this experiment does have the ultimate result to help other snakes and is not unnecessary cruelty. Doing this experiment knowingly is far better than continuing down the path of ignorance and losing other babies. Also, there's a reason snakes lay so many eggs at once--because most babies won't survive.
I wouldn’t say step too far. While I agree it should be done to see the results and potentially protect future snakes. Why should they pick and choose which snakes are worth living more than others and which should be put in danger because their lives aren’t valued as such. It’s like playing god and that’s why some people weren’t pleased at all with the experiment.
@@mrnowak2835...
They're snake breeders. By that definition, they're literally always "playing god"
@@neverlandhunter6988 What they dont seem to grasp is
Humans by definition play god on a daily basis.
Dog breeders breed dogs for features such flat face's in dogs like French Bulldogs, Pug's and many others. Puppies from those litters who dont have the flat face are often culled to keep the not flat face out of the world.
Rescue Kennels have to make the choice of which dogs, cat, other animals to rehome and which to put to sleep.
Doctors keep humans alive with medicine and science all the time essentially playing god with our lives.
Scientist's come up with more things to keep us alive on the daily.
The List is endless, unless you live under a rock your going to constantly be running in to someone playing god with one thing or another.
@@mrnowak2835 Unfortunately to do the experiment they HAVE to pick a clutch to do it on. Of course they won't use a clutch that is either a new species for them, a fancy morph they've been working on for years or a clutch that's part of a breeding project (like the secret hognose clutch). They also can't use a clutch the was mostly slugs as for one the sample size will be rather small and secondly a clutch being mostly slugs could lead you to think the rest have a higher chance to go bad.
The Bullsnake clutch chosen just simply fit the criteria. The whole clutch was laid looking perfectly healthy, no slugs or slightly iffy eggs at all. There was also a nice little sample size of 11 eggs to do a nearly 50/50 of black marker vs orange.
I can understand feeling annoyed and feeling like they're picking and choosing which are worthy and such. But like I said they have to pick one to do the experiment on to try and get as accurate results as they can. That's just the hard truth of it.
@@mrnowak2835 So you agree that it needs to be done, but you're concerned that they picked eggs for it to be done...there's literally no other way to do it. Am I misunderstanding you? Because your comment about "playing god" suggests that you may be confused about something.
If the orange pen had caused issues, it'd be a lesson for every breeder and could have saved thousands of snake eggs as people learn not to use coloured markers. It's worth risking 6 snakes I think.
Well its wouldnt be thay easy as chemical makeup of different pens varies
@@edwardhisse2687that's why they only did sharpie.
Yellow theme stuff
I'm surprised some people got really upset with the orange sharpie experiment. I understand that it would be disappointing if all of the orange marked eggs went bad, thus strongly suggesting that it does effect the hatch rate. But the only way to find out for certain is to experiment, just like also this year Snake Discovery has done a lot of "clump" incubations to see if the hatch rate differs much compared to separating the eggs.
Unfortunately that experiment hasn't gone the best, like half of Brad's eggs went bad. But the only way to learn these things is to experiment, that's how we get a better understanding of things and can ensure better results in the future.
@@robyngatomon1991 It's difficult and understandable to be upset, but the reality is that doing an experiment like that could prevent far greater future suffering.
@@robyngatomon1991It would be far worse if they continued using colored markers for years, not knowing there was an issue because it was only one color affecting the eggs and thus difficult to make the connection.
Seems like it’s better to use one clutch to determine if the marker is safe, rather than use who knows how many eggs over the next several years.
@@robyngatomon1991of course its sad that the snake wouldve had to suffer, but then everyone would know not to use orange marker on eggs, so more snakes don‘t have to.
I get why some people are upset. But now, every breeder can know to avoid orange markers. I also wish this could have been confirmed without harming baby snakes.
Same
Found some five-lined skink eggs in a bad place earlier this month and, thanks to your egg videos, I knew what to do to incubate them. All 11 hatched into beautiful, healthy babies!
That's terrific!! Great job!
I sense some fake here.. the vid is only 40 mins old. How the hell did they hatch 40 mins after u did this?..
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@@CV01_Hatsunemiku they make other videos they have a whole playlist 🤦♀️🤣
That is so cool. We'll done. 👌
If the Sharpie experiment potentially saves future eggs, it's not something to make angry calls about. Plus, black has more colors in it than orange, so I find it unlikely that orange would kill the eggs.
For things like dyes, black isn't achieved by just putting all the other pigments together. Specific pigments and chemicals are used for each colour, so there is a chance something in one colour could be harmful even if the other colours aren't.
@@DragonFae16 True, Sharpies are dye-based, not pigment-based, but the black still has more dye than orange. You can test this by dripping a bit of rubbing alcohol on a line of each on strips of paper. Also, both colors conform to ASTM D-4236. Based on the swatches I made, the dyes in each are different from each other, but that's why each color gets tested for safety. While the Art & Creative Materials Institute probably doesn't have snake eggs in mind, a test like this not a bad idea.
The reason they picked orange to test, if you remember or saw that egg laid video, was because in the past couple years, the eggs they had used orange on and videoed start to finish, had a higher percentage of going bad.
It's definitely worth keeping in mind that we have no reason to suspect that black Sharpie is going to be "safer" than a different colored Sharpie. It's been the standard for snake breeders to use because black sharpies are available basically everywhere and are cheap, not because there's reason to believe the chemicals in black Sharpie ink are safer on egg surfaces.
@@SupremeViola well we know they aren't unsafe, because the hatch rate using them is really good?
One thing I would add is that it's best practice to disinfect your hands after touching/treating eggs in a clutch with mould before handling the next clutch to prevent cross contamination, otherwise you're just smearing mould spores all over clean eggs even if you wiped your hands with a paper towel. Not the end of the world because the eggs have a natural resistance and the air is full of spores anyway but it really would be safer all around to demonstrate not actively cross contaminating clutches
She sprayed her hands between clutches you can see it in the hyper loop if you watch carefully. You see her picking up the spray bottle between each clutch.
@@AngelusGaston I did notice but it wasn't actively mentioned so I decided to bring it up here because its not something that people would necessarily think to do. This video is intended to educate people on how to care for snake eggs and that's a fairly important piece of information that was missing
@@Lilith-Rose
She does mention at the start when she is going through all the stuff she uses that its for sterilisation purposes, and anyone who keeps multiple reptiles or animals would be doing hand washes between handling so wouldn't really need reminding about cross contamination.
@@AngelusGaston you would be very surprised at just how ignorant people can be of basic sanitation practices, and by not mentioning it directly during a detailed informational video it gives the impression that it is not a necessary step.
I would also go the extra mile to change out the perlite as it could be harboring spores as well.
It's the end of July now, so I am eagerly anticipating all of the hatching videos that are probably being edited right now!
Same! Knowing a few exciting things from Patreon, it's going to be an epic one!
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LIKE WHAT??
@@_veronica_rlike super condas! And so many more awesome babies. I'm so excited! Maybe we'll be seeing them coming next week?
I am sooo exited to see all the little wiggle baby’s, especially all the sassy bull snakes and dramatic actor hognoses
@@_veronica_r Spoilers 😉
Im GLAD you're doing the experiment because if you don't, how do you know if you're potentially hurting animals or not??? Everyone is like "oh it's fine, its just sharpie" but is it though?? And im glad you're asking that! Also would love to see how the clutch does eating once hatched
exactly. We can't know what we don't know, and you can't make husbandry better on a larger scale if we don't find out what minutia that we're not thinking about might be having an effect on development.
Great insight to see if the color affects their ability to thrive after hatching~
yeah, I've also seen a lot of people say "just don't use anyway instead of testing it" but,, they HAVE been using it for YEARS and uploaded hundreds of videos! people watching and people that will watch will probably use the markers too, so there has to be another video that will pop up to prove otherwise if it ends up bad!
if snake discovery stops doing it and says "oh no reason, just because 🤷" then no ones gonna actually listen and keep doing it themselves
100% agree!
There are experiments for reasons! We will now know and base future decisions on the experiments! 🫶🏼
Keep us updated on the yellow eggs. I don't see how they will be good baby snakes with the eggs being yellow. Love all your videos ❤❤❤😊
I just want to say that by checking on the marker color you could be saving tons of eggs in the future - don't get discouraged from experimenting to make your practices better because people (who often do not have their own snakes or educational center) feel that you are doing it wrong.
Also, super excited for hatching season!!!
Do I have snakes? No
Have I ever bred snakes? No
Am I going to watch this video at 1:30am in it’s entirety? Yes
😂 same
You and me both, lol
Same
Yup
This is an experiment that benefits the very animal type that is involved in the experiment. I’m so sorry there was bad feedback. If anybody doesn’t deserve this, especially considering how much you do for reptiles, it’s you! The folks like my partner and me who love and actively support you are waaaaay more numerous (and we have prettier noses lol)
I agree, It's an experiment, it has already happened and people arguing isn't going to solve anything at all and they know it. Sometimes experiments are necessary, and they don't always gotta go other people's way. It's reality.
I think the problem is that there is no reason to ever mark eggs with orange. It dosen't happen in nature, it dosen't benefit the eggs, and there are other colors to mark eggs with. Experimenting and learning is important, but only if it is to benefit the animals. I still completely support Snake Discovery, but I think they made a bad decision, and hope they don't do it with other clutches.
@@wildflower1397 you still have to test the other colors though every time you use another color your literally testing if something is going to happen to that egg.
Even a small mark could do damage to an UNDEVELOPED egg.
How many eggs had to risked so breeders found out that black was OK to use or a certain type of pen was OK to use.
This literally isn't a new thing it's been going on since people started to breed snakes its just that Emily wants to show her viewers the whole process.
@angelusgaston5922 Yes! So much this!!! Everyone commenting that orange "could" have harmed the snakes. First of all, they knew going in that the likelihood of it being an issue was so small. The benefit far outweighed the risk! Second, how do you think it was learned that black marker was safe? People "risked" it and tried! That is how scientific progress works! These comments and the criticism is so unwarranted and ridiculous. Third, there could be many reasons that a different colored marker may need to be used. It is very important to mark the top of the eggs to ensure the developing baby doesn't drown if an egg is rattled or moved. So what if the eggs are found and only a colored marker is available? What if there are different species and a breeder wants to delineate between them? What if black markers suddenly are not available? There are always reasons for testing! Bottom line, the risk was nearly non-existent and what was learned by the experiment is very valuable! Stop the nonsense!
@@angelusgaston5922 Just because people tested black in the past, dosen't make it okay to do it again now. Also, there was a valid reason to try it with black. It was benefit to the animal to mark them, so they could be kept upright and not die. Using orange is just for fun or convenience, not for the animal. I am not personally angry about it, but it is somewhat unethical.
I suspect many people are sensitive because of the horrible tragedy of past and ongoing animal testing, especially in the cosmetics industry. This is somewhat similar to testing a new orange eyeshadow on a mouse.
Also, it comes close to the reproductive health controversy. At what point does the egg become a baby snake in a shell? When does life begin? Are they risking an undeveloped egg, or risking a cute baby snake?
It makes sense that people are upset, because it's a grey area on a slippery slope. Many are fighting to teach the public that reptiles deserve the same love, environments, and protections that other pets do. The recent murder of beloved pet snakes by officials in Florida incensed most people in the reptile community.
You have the right to your opinoin, and to express it here publicly. Free speech is a beautiful thing. :)
Feels weird that you guys are getting complaints about the experiment clutch. Making sure that future snakes have a better chance of survival with new information is really important.
While I don't have anger, I would say that using sharpie at all - a known toxic ink until it cures - is not necessary. There is really no reason to mark all the eggs with pictures. I used to use pencil when I marked a different egg in the same container as others. It works, though it is very light and fades a little.
I was wondering if next egg season you could candle a few eggs during different stages in incubation? It would be a great opportunity to teach about embryonic development in snakes!
Oooh, this was REALLY informative, seeing the whole gamut of how bad moldy-bad eggs can LOOK, compared to the bullsnake clutches that look PERFECT! And informing us how the the discoloration on the hognoses, the 'windows', are harmless, and just mean they're a bit over-humid, but will survive. REALLY good info to have all in one place, thank you for doing this!
My cornsnake laid yet another surprise clutch two weeks ago and I'm currently incubating the 6 good eggs. Its been 12 years since she was last bred, and 4 of the eggs have healthy veins developing. I love these videos since egg maintenance isn't talked about alot!
That was fascinating to watch, I had no idea you needed to take care of the eggs beyond the whole gently placing them in clumpable Perlite 8D
Right?! I knew they put on stuff on moldy eggs and threw out bad ones, but I had no idea it's a whole "thing". I thought they just check them once in a while or something 😅
glad to see you and ed are still going strong in the herping community, i watched you all the time
herping?
@@tThisNThatherpetology is the science of snakes and amphibians , and herping refers to looking for those animals out in the wild
I'm so happy the marker test is going well. I was nervous about orange because of the few eggs before that had gone bad with the orange, but seeing those eggs looking good is so exciting. Finding out if colors affect eggs is so important, thank you for all the work you guys do!
I believe that his experiment was a good thing.
How do you think we discovered all the things in our world? So glad they all lived 💚 you guys are awesome!
Could you maybe do some more of these style videos with some daily chores that come with having a zoo? They are fun and quite educational to watch.
You helped me know how to incubate eggs. I successfully incubated 3 eggs just green anoles but because of all your videos I felt confident in doing it and did it.
The coloured markers experiment with Dottie's and Barnaby's eggs is necessary indeed to see of any other marker colour than black, contains a chemical affecting survival or development of the baby snakes.
the first ever video I have seen from you two was the "how to prep and care for snake eggs" video so its cool to see how much Snake Discovery has grown
So excited for baby season! I can't wait to see what some of these secret hatch pairings are trying to proof out
This episode is great, i recently recommended an individual to start watching this channel as they found eggs in the wild and even though he shouldnt have touched them (He was admonished by multiple people) i still wanted to give those eggs the best shot at surviving.
I run a kitten foster and ringworm is SUPER common in the babies that come in. I buy a lot of Canesten laundry detergent and miconazole cream. I'm fairly sure the pharmacists think I have either a raging yeast infection or nasty feet lol.
What do those do for ring worm? PLZ
I think that people forget the old saying "you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet." You can't learn if you don't try, and if you try you have to accept that failure is a part of the equation. This is how we learn everything we've learned from science- when you say hear of a medication and it lists the side effects, everything they listed happened to at least one person in the trials. It's great to see that the eggs are doing well, but if they weren't it was still a needed endeavor because without a proper scientific experiment we wouldn't have facts, just assumptions.
I love how you explain how you care for your animals! They all seem VERY well taken care of. Love your channel can't wait for the hatching of some of these eggs!!
I’ve just been binge watching really old episodes and now there’s a new one 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
There has been a new product come out in the last five year for chicken eggs called Hatch Rite. I haven't been hatching chicks so I haven't tried it yet. When you set the eggs you mist them with this and it has vitamins and nutrients that are absorbed through the shell and increase the hatch rate. I wonder if it would work on snakes too. Stromberg's has it.
As a student of psychology I appreciate your sharing on experiment study beginning to end results and all components, including viewer comments. God bless
for the end Emily I really appreciate you showing the 'jank' setup to get the footage. I think its a GOOD thing to not have the best expensive equipment because it shows younger viewers who may themselves wanna create content that they dont NEED expensive equipment even at well over 1mil subscribers. Plus there is just something so genuine about using what you have rather then trying to get easier solutions spending money.
I love this video!! I loved the behind the scenes and seeing what it takes to take care of snake eggs!!
Could the sharpie color effect different the species of eggs? You've talked about how they have different feels and thickness when cutting them open.
I think this is very possible. Different species have different chemical makeups
This really helped me with my snakes , I had just bought two , thinking both where female , but of course one was male and they ended up breeding and laying a cluch of lavender hoggies! I didn't know they where het lavender XD! But only two didn't make it so I'm glad!
That's one heck of a surprise!
@@annetheelf8174 ikr!
Were you co-habbing them? I’m confused as to how they “ended up breeding” if not. Hognoses shouldn’t be co-habbed.
@@lindsayschmidt2177 oh yeah the owner said they were babies but just ate alot but lied . Idk why
Hi Em and Ed,
I always enjoy watching your egg 🥚 videos. I love the different colours that are made after matting. You have some of the best collection I’ve seen ever 🐍 🥚
I love your channel so much I’m so excited for the Hognose asked hatch. I hope there’s going to be a snow. Love your beds. Also, how is 💕Ally doing? Is she still with us? I haven’t seen a video about her in a while.
Really love this kind of update with the eggs. I hope they do them again next year eggs
hi emily and ed! this video helped me a lot because im thinking about breeding snakes in the futere!!!keep up the good work!
Love the behind the scenes/set up
GOOD MORNING 🐍NAKE DISCOVERY FANS, EMILY AND ED I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY😊
i totally forgot about this channel
and how much i loved this
The theme for the yellow eggs was "things that are yellow" I believe
My conclusion too😊
Same, its probably yellow theme
love these types of videos i love how on this channel there is stuff for everyone to watch keep up the hard work
I watched this channel for years, why didn't I ever realise that you take care of the eggs like that? I always thought you chug them in there and that's it 😂
Ty for always posting great content I try to learn everyday n when I see u posted I'm always watching
People calling to rage about the eggs are waaay out of line. As if they think their uneducated opinions matter. Bullying people on the internet because you don’t understand them is so childish.
But I’m excited to see these eggs hatch! Thank you for showing us a stage of egg care I had no idea about. :)
I love your videos, and thank you for showing me this how to take care of snake egg, thank you so much!!!❤️❤️❤️
Love this video in seeing behind the scenes of snakes what really goes beyond the camera would love to see another one like this
"Is that a crab, or is that the sun?" I ask myself the very same question everytime I wake up in the morning.
My hognose snake layed its first eggs 3 weeks ago. Sadly 4 of the seven eggs already went bad, but I am taking advice from this video and hope the last 3 will make i!!! Pairing was Axanthic conda 66% het Albino x Snow
I am really excited !!
You Guys Inspire Me To One Day Have Snakes Or Reptiles Of My Own
same
Thank you for being so kind
I must ask this question again as I am SO curious: Is there a reason you don't ever seem to candle the eggs? To check for veins and ensure the embryo is where it needs to be. I wondered this when we were seeing a lot of questionable eggs first being laid and when we saw some of the mothers moving the eggs. Of course "incubate until there's no debate" is great, but would candling be useful in those situations?
I also wonder what the reason is.
They used to do it in older egg videos. (Like years pre-covid old.) My guess is that even if an egg shows viens, that doesn't mean it will hatch. Also, when you're dealing with the sheer volume of eggs that Ed and Emily are, the time investment to candle all of them might just not be worth it as opposed to just incubating a few additional eggs.
I wonder if you could light pad them. Would a light pad for art have a strong enough light? That would be a cool experiment.
@@kriscook2423a light pad wouldn't work very well because having the light around the egg as well as behind it makes it much harder to see the details you are trying to reveal with having a light behind it
In the old videos they used a combo of their phone flashlights and I think I recall a normal small LED flashlight. I think the other posted is right. Having to wait and check, wait and check,for the 1st few days. And bouncing them on and off heat to look at them is probably less efficient, and more of a risk really, then just following progress. I also wonder with the snake egg need to be stationary vs birds needing rotation it also just wouldn't introduce more risk. They posted a study a while back about hatch rates and turned snake eggs and the results weren't as bad. But the study noted elevated death rates post hatching for rolled eggs.
Thank you! I loved seeing how yiu care for them.
its so silly you got angry calls about the marker experiment in name of "harm to the animals" when for example Jay is just out there taking fresh babies from their eggs and stuffing them back, like I get wanting to protect snake babies but this feel like the most non-harmful experiment, maybe cuz i was skeptical the color did anything in the first place 😅
Idk why, but I like the tap tap tap of the jock itch powder. It's sorta satisfying.
I don't understand getting upset over the marker experiment; if the eggs didn't develop properly, then they get tossed and no harm done. Eggs to bad during incubation all the time, it's not "purposefully harming a baby animal" -- the "baby animal" isn't even formed yet, I promise the people bothered by this that it doesn't mind.
THIS. The one person I've seen going off about it in the comments talks about it like they are torturing fully formed, feeling animals. It's a really strange stance to take imo. And while they could just stop using the markers, it wouldn't really help give any extra info/insight on the use to other people who would probably still use them. It felt like a weirdly "pro-life" adjacent argument
I have never had a snake. Or lizard. Or anything close. I don't live in a country with wild snakes. I don't know anyone with a snake and I don't want a snake.... but I'm glued to this channel to the extent I'm learning about how to care for my never-gonna-happen snake eggs. WHY THIS IS SO INTERESTING?!
I was actually curious to see the end result of the Black versus red markers now I'm curious to see if the size of your humidity bins affect because I was watching it it seemed like the larger ones were going bad at a higher rate
That can also be explained because the larger clutch compensates for more expected losses to begin with, but could be possible that the larger bins have less consistent temperature and humidity
Luv from barbados although I have never really hold a snake I luv how make it so joyable and encouraging enjoy stay safe and I don't miss a show
I need to know this I’ve never had good luck with my crested gecko eggs so thank you :D
that is so cool and they looking great so far cant see what babies looking like
The mystical incubator. I was under the impression that thing is a Tardis on the inside.
This was quite helpful really highlighted the steps you needed to take
How have a lot of the eggs gone mouldy this time around?. Could it be cause of the big incubator being used?..
can’t wait for hatching videos so excited for them 😊
My question as well. It can definitely take trial and error to dial in the incubation techniques. But yes, there is just an inordinate amount of mold going on in those containers. She did say it was too wet. Maybe they can test some egg trays in the container instead of laying the eggs on the perlite directly? Maybe try vermiculite? I guess if hatch rate is not affected, then they don't need to change anything. Looking forward to seeing what happens. BTW, in the wild, colubrid eggs are laid in conditions that are generally dry but humid. Dry-ish substrate but humidity all around it.
I'm gonna be interested to see how those yellow eggs turn out. What a bright color.
I wonder if a lot of the discolouration and mold is from the condensation falling directly into the eggs from the lid?
I think it might be worth adding lotrimin in the future to individual bad eggs in situations like Brad's eggs- it'll help kill off the fungus having the time of its life over there and help prevent it's spread. Healthy eggs may be resistant, but it feels like a reasonable precaution! Same reason as removing the pearlite that touched the one bad egg from Circus and Monroe- just in case (:
In regards to that clumps of Brad's eggs with the one really bad one stuck to the good ones - would it actually be worth it to cover it (the bad egg) entirely with the lotrimin powder? Not as a way to save the egg since it's definitely a goner, but to prevent the mold from potentially spreading to other eggs? The egg is dead anyways, so there wouldn't be any harm in covering that one completely with the powder. Just an extra preventative measure to try to protect the healthy eggs. If more mold can't grow, then it can't spread!
Can't wait for more egg hatching vids.! I love watching them everytime even though they are all similar 😅. Love your vids !
I can't believe people have gotten so uppity about the orange marker experiment. Makes me feel like they're bored and looking for something to be mad about. Running an experiment on the health of 6 eggs is nothing compared to the many many eggs that die in the wild from natural unavoidable causes. And the many eggs that go bad even with captive breeding. Getting uppity about 6 eggs is ridiculous. I'm glad the experiment is going well!
Please do another one of these videos! I enjoy them!
I feel like I’ve gone through it with the snakes and eggs this year, as I’m pregnant this year too 😂
Thanks for this video! Got my first clutch of hognose eggs this year a couple got mold/fuzzy, might be to late, I can still see the veins in one so will try it on that one. Will be helpful in future clutches for sure at the least.
I think that powder for athletes foot is the same as jock itch powder. Check the info on the back of the bottles.
I love your videos. I feel much more comfortable with the idea of snakes now. I actually argued with by brother about killing one. I don't think I'll ever have one as a pet but I can appreciate them now and understand why people love them. Thanks Snake Discovery.
I would like to have a Rex for a pet but I've more common sense than that. 😊
Can you please please add a brand new video on how to care for rough green snakes! And explain if foggers are good for them? Is it better to just mist the enclosure? Please!! Love you two! Lots of love from Arizona
You should do cutiemarks for a clutch if there are any more, like in my little pony, would be cool
Hope you had a good vacation!
I think the staff picked a yellow theme for the eggs that were yellow 😁
I agree with others, the yellow egg theme must be things that are yellow or have yellow in them (like maybe a lemon coloured hognose for the snake? 🤔). Thanks for this educational video! Love all your videos. Even your high tech quick thinking technology part in the end! 😃
I think it is great that you tested the orange marker, for future actions! And also that you tested it on a big enough, but limited amount of eggs to get a good outcome in 1 run. Job well done, the risk was necessary to take
Lol I love watching you work with eggs. You're always so upbeat.... Even if an egg goes bad. You're very much, sucks, it happens, moving on to the good ones in the clutch.
Do you keep a record of count/failure/survival for each clutch? I know sometimes you say "this is her/his third bad clutch" so I assume you are at least keeping a mental record. I've seen your pairing listing kept in a notebook. Have you considered keeping a spreadsheet, just for giggles?
I am so keen to see SD hit 3 mil.
Am I using this to procrastinate from cleaning my room: yes
Is it worth it: yes
that clutch is totally yellow themed! you should make more tutorials like this!
It's really weird how some eggs will be so clearly dead and gone bad, but entire clutches will still look perfect. It's crazy how so many eggs have to be tossed because of that. It's a marvel that any eggs hatch in the wild.
Also, those yellow blue beauty eggs were super weird. Are we gonna get a follow-up on those?
Because in the wild, far fewer eggs go bad unless disturbed by a predator or a flood or something. What is shown on this video is the result of captivity. Snakes with poor fertility are either inbred too much or not cycled properly for breeding.
Thank you for the update~ I love those markings on the eggs~👍
Thank you for sharing this video~🤗
And yellow so they drew things that were yellow
Yeah
I love Tuesdays and Fridays
Summer theme
My way of dealing with clutches where the top eggs start denting is damp sphagnum moss to plump them back up. Works a treat.
Maybe an ignorant question 😅 but uhm, what if you accidentally throw out a good egg? Could it possibly hatch in the trash? Do you take secondary measures to make sure the slugs and bad eggs are destroyed?
I would say no because the lack of humidity in the room would dry it out.
i'm sure it's not completely impossible, however I'd say it's incredibly unlikely. There wouldn't be the sort of humidity and temperature control needed to help the egg develop (not to mention what the egg might come in contact with in the trash). But given that they do tend to try to leave eggs that have even a slight chance of still being good, I'd say in their case it just probably doesn't happen.
Rotten eggs and slugs won't hatch. They do incubate until there is no debate.
yellow things theme on the yellow eggs - clever, staff!
i think the theme for the yellow eggs is just that all of the things can be yellow
that;s what I thought too. bees, giraffes, the sun, etc... it was all things that are usually yellow
13:29 I feel that. I went to Walmart to buy the jock itch cream to treat one of my guinea pig ringworm. It was after my ER shift at 3 am and I didn't it was weird until the self check out monitoring clerks were snickering. I didn't buy anything else 😅
I'm confused about the hognose eggs with windows. You said it's due to humidity, but left the lid covered in condensation? I'm sure there's a good reason, but curious as to what the reason is?
If you go back and listen again, you'll learn that windowing is because of too HIGH humidity, not low humidity, which is why she tries to keep hognose eggs in LOW humidity and commented on the condensation being a bad thing in a previous clutch :) Either way, leaving it won't hurt too much, it just has to dry out some more
@@willothewisp2980 I thought windowing was due to incomplete calcification cause of the mom just having so many eggs she doesn't have the calcium for them all.
@@caterscarrots3407 I think that's another reason but is visible when laid, they are talking about windows that form later in incubation I guess from calcium leeching in high humidity
The last one looks really good