Pro tip: Tarantula breeders don't leave the egg sac with mom. Most breeders usually take it when the babies are ready to go into the "eggs with legs" stage. Then they cut open the sac. As soon as the babies mold into F1 in a separate container, they start to separate them.
I'm glad someone else mentioned this! It's easier to keep track of all the babies once you've removed the egg sac from mom and can monitor it in incubation. DeadlyTarantualGirl, Dave's Little Beasties, Tarantula Kat, etc... are all good resources.
And you don't leave the male with her. You let him breed, you watch it... and after breeding you take the male out. Babies take 40 days to hatch. And you take the eggsack out of the enclosure too...
They've also changed her diet, as per advice from the channel 'Bird Tricks'. Bird Tricks also taught them some avian training techniques. While it's hard to say, it seems plausible that the combination (plus cozy sweaters!) may have settled Cheyenne down. I think the fact that Emily and Ed are around her more regularly since opening the facility could also be a factor. Ed no longer has a day job, and groups are more likely to come to Emily for programs in the classroom rather than Emily having to travel, which may increase Cheyenne's feelings of security, too.
Wished i known bout bird sweaters before if i had would of figured out how to get grandma cockatoo one he has bad habit when stress to pluck out his own feathers until he bleeds on his chest dont know why
@@PamLinebaugh42 I don't think the exact cause is known for sure, but feather plucking happens relatively commonly within birds that have gone through some kind of trauma or stressful situations. I'm not trying to speculate on what happened to your grannies bird at all though, just sharing the information that I do know in hopes that it may provide some insight! :) Birds are complex creatures so I couldn't say what exactly causes them to decide to chronically hurt themselves
This looks more nerve racking than when they find all the garder snakletts. And I thought finding garder snakes babies was a headache and a half to find
@@PamLinebaugh42 As a follow up to what @finthefishsep20toma said, once a bird gets into the habit of feather plucking it can be very hard for them to stop. Even if they begin recieving the care they need they may not stop plucking and often times if a spot has been plucked for too long the feathers just don't come back.
Im a tarantula keeper and I just have a few tips and comments here ^^ First of all just want to say you guys are awesome ^^ and I am aware that this your first time, these are just loving tips and tricks I am giving you guys 1. The sling you picked up first was dehydrated hence the legs looking a bit curled up and wobbly when it walks 2. The amount of misting you did in the small container wasn't actually enough for slings, They need to have semi moist substrate as slings and then less when they get older, Just make sure to mist them more as slings then as juveniles 3. If you find the fruit flies aren't working as feeders you can also pre-kill small roaches and leave them in the container for 24 hours at a time. I find just a leg of a decent size roach also works ^^ 4. As you know already it seems, taking the egg sack out just before hatching also works wonders ^^ 5. Just saying it again, misting the babies frequently at this age is vital Other then that, you guys are doing a great job as first time T breeders Cant wait to see how they grow if you do keep some ^^
they had plenty of other little cups to put them in if you watch further into the video, and even say at the end, they're going out right after they finish filming the outro to buy more vials
@@CaspiRose99 Yes. They have viewers - they could have put a shout-out saying what they were planning to do and asked for help. Or watched any amount of videos. They clearly love "animals". I just don't understand the approach they took in this case - and laughed about it.
I'm a huge tarantula nerd. This is so exciting! I'm not surprised that a T. vagans ate her boyfriend, but I am shocked that he was calm enough to let you free handle him!
It’s been a long time since I’ve bred tarantulas but when I showed them pictures on the ones I sadly had to euthanize the ones that I got last year because the jerk of my ex best friend said “what’s the problem with a FEW extra baby spiders” and mind you she knew exactly what she was doing she put one of my youngest tarantulas that could breed in and not only did my male tarantula get killed but I had to kill more than like 100 baby spiders as well and I know she did it on purpose yeah that was really fun
Oh sorry got off track I KNOWINGLY, and RESPONSIBLY bred one of my oldest tarantulas that could still breed so my friends could add more breeders to their breeding collections That is the actual end of my story
1 or 2 things her name is Emily(If you forgot or didn't know) and this one was probably a spelling mistake(Which i do all the time) but it's spiderlings
@@simbachannel7173 thanks m8 i got a terrible memory and forgot her name, think iv heard it before, also i like to use the slang spooder instead of spider, i often do the same for other adorable animals like saying doggo or pupper instead of dog, since these are some of my favorite animals i cant help feeling a small personal connection to any i see, wasint always that way, i used to have arachnophobia ^^
May you please have baby octopuses or you can free the mama or you can have some tarantulas that are buried dinner shoes because I don’t like tarantulas and they’re so disgusting and I’m afraid of tarantulas is Fezi and I am afraid seven years seven I mean I am eight years old and I like to see some baby octopuses. Thank you. Enjoy Enjoy everything that you did for the Ed Sheeran. I think I’m gonna spoil my anxieties or the octopus I mean OK bye-bye
You may want to use a fan paint brush in the future to catch the spiderlings. They’re flatter than the paint brush you used with much more surface area to cling to and/or catch the falling babies
One thing with the dirt: unless they're arboreal or semi-arboreal there's basically not enough dirt. you want the tarantula to be able to build a deep tunnel for a few molts. They'll be absolutely fine in there but for the next time you can easily fill those (first) containers up til the half with dirt.
pro tips: remove the egg sac at the ewl stage as mentioned previously, but also, to preserve the male, keep him in a smaller enclosure until breeding and dont leave them together after pairing! separate after insemination
Great tip! However I do believe the male was left in intentionally despite the norm due to the male being quite old and nearing his brink, the thought process was that he would have a better chance at breeding her with more time and the male could act as a high source of nutrition for the female through the process seeing as he likely wouldn't make it much longer anyway
I think the context a lot of the whinier people were missing is that an old male tarantula is about to die. They don’t live long, and spend the end of their lives searching for a female. If separated, he’d continue searching until he died from starvation or his next attempt to shed. Literally the best thing to do is to have him fulfill his biological prerogative and maximize the number of offspring he sires. Being eaten is the best way to do this.
@@Delightedly That maybe what a person may think but looking at the response of almost ALL male tarantulas to GET the HELL outta there before she eats me leads many to believe that he WANTS to live not be and NOT be eaten by the female. That doesn't necessarily make people the WHINIER people....
Tarantula nerd here 😂 when you breed tarantulas you are supposed to supervise the mating and take away the male as soon as he is finished and has ran away from the female. Otherwise the female will eat him. The female becomes stunned after the mating leaving time for the male to run away and that's when you take him out. So you could have saved the old man.
@judibuckman178 Everything eventually dies either way, but that doesn't mean you take unnecessary risks. For example, I just had a 20 year old cat pass away last year naturally. He lived a long life and was "going to die soon" anyway. However, it would have been irresponsible and cruel of me to put him outside for hours where he had no protection and we could hear coyotes that we constantly hear at night out they would likely get him just because he "lived a long life." It was a cruel way to go and wasn't necessary, in my opinion. I've seen many responsible professional tarantula breeders and how they take the appropriate caution when breeding them. They don't stick them in the enclosure where the male can't escape and leave him in there for hours. The ones I have watched don't even stop watching the pair at any point and remove him if the female becomes aggressive. Sure, there are still risks, but they take all the precautions they can to prevent this kind of thing from happening. They just didn't have a need for him anymore and had a new male to take it's place, in my opinion. It would've been more kind to use the same method of culling that they do for mice rather than leaving him knowing it was inevitable he would eventually be attacked and eaten.
This video is making me realize just how far Snake Discovery videos have helped me come from my arachnophobia. While I still have problems with interacting with actual spiders (mostly "big", non-tarantula spiders like the local giant house spider and huntsmen), I'm very good with our local jumpers and a LONG way from "throwing the laptop once and hyperventilating when a picture of a spider suddenly surprised me". Thank you guys so much
I just wanted to let you know I have officially discovered the joys of breeding! I ordered neocaridina shrimp a few weeks ago and I was so excited when I realised there were babies. The babies are so cute! They're so tiny.
Congrats! I’m just starting to get things together to breed crickets. I started with just trying to keep them alive (until my beardie eats them, that is) and I think I’m _almost_ ready to breed them. It’s been interesting, thus far. I never knew keeping insects could be so neat. I bet shrimp are even more fascinating!
@@Thurston86 THANK YOU for the awesome idea!! I really want to start with SOMETHING, but I'm not ready for many of my fav options. Breeding the feeder insects, though.... 🤩 Dont worry - I am NOT going into this (or anything else) on impulse. I'll do research and take time to get that first exciting rush to pass, and reasonable thought to reign. 😂 But, this IS an exciting idea for me to check out!! I also am maybe a little weird, in that I LOVE the sounds of crickets. I've actually considered keeping them anyway, with no other reason than because I like them 😂😂. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🦗🦗🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Yay Neocaridina shrimps are awesome :) I have one tank of red ones (red cherries and mostly sakuras, also the racing stripe females) and one or two accidental yellows ( I got yellow male while buying red variation), and on the other tank I have mix (I want to breed one "cleaner" the red ones and in big tank I want to breed crazy morphs including wild type) So far I have tons of reds (almost all are sakura and fire), second are blue velvets. Babies so far are red or blue, some are pale blue, I spotted blueish grey too. But watch out for mixbreeding them, if you want solid color, breed only one color in one tank.
@@KOKO-uu7yd You’re very welcome! Feeders seems like a good place to start, if you’re interested in breeding. In preparation, I’ve been watching a lot of The Cricket Lady, here on TH-cam. She breeds crickets for human consumption and seems like a good source. The sound is actually quite pleasant but they’re so loud I had to move them to the bottom level of my house so my beardie doesn’t constantly hear them! Lol. Good luck, if you decide to give it a try!
Chyanne looks like she has feathers again and shes not just a uncooked chicken for the most part, can we get an update vid on her training as well as her feathers if theres been any regrowth? You go raw chicken!!
I’m sure you’ve been corrected on a few things in the rest of the comments. I just wanted to offer up myself if you need more spider advice or help. I’m a spider biologist and have been breeding tarantulas for around 20 years. I’m happy to help 😊
I love how Emily is so happy at having 80+ babies but I have to say I wasn't surprised. Actually I was surprised at how few babies there were because some or most tarantula species can have over 1000. Thankfully for Snake Discovery Red Rump's typically have between 100 to 300.
I had a good giggle when Emily proudly displayed all the like six containers she'd been saving ready for slings 😂🤣😂 Was pretty sure you were going to need a lot more 😂
I would also suggest sifting through all that substrate and doing a deep clean of the enclosure just to make sure you have all the babies out because even if some are left in there the chances of them surviving and the mom deciding that her children are food is a lot higher
I don't think they have the room to keep them alive honestly. They would have to euthanise them at best. Probably easier to let them get eaten, unfortunately.
All they have to do is get more 1oz plastic cups. They're like 5 bucks. And you can sell the slings for 25 bucks a piece or higher so it'd be incredibly wasteful and thoughtless to not at least attempt to get the rest of them out. They'd sell.
@@DoorsToHideBehind156 I don't think they would sell tbh :x Idk, I'm not an expert in tarantula economics but selling like 100 of ANYTHING is difficult when you're a small scale shop. They have to feed them all while they wait for them to sell (again, imagine doing ANYTHING literally 100 or more times every few days(?), and feeding is probably at least 15-20 seconds apiece). I'm a vegan so I don't like unnecessary death, but you just can't save that many slings. In the wild a majority of them would die and there's just too many in captivity to save them all and separate them into individual containers.
actaully in nature its very common for the female to eat the male, its actually very important for them as it gives the female a good source of nutrients to feed mom and babies, just natural instincts. same way a lot of mammels eat the placenta after a birth to recoup energy
@@Kytti-not-kitty I know, but animals in captivity are pretty far removed from 'nature'. The death of the male was entirely preventable and not at all necessary to provide adequate nutrients to the female (I assume SD has access to other food items to give the female? Why would the male be crucial for nutrition?) Whether he was old or not, being eaten by another spider is a pretty stressful/unpleasant way to go, and something they could have avoided if they had cared to.
@@Kytti-not-kitty But this isn't nature. This would be like housing a smaller hognose with a bigger one and when the bigger one eats the smaller one, saying "they do it in nature" when it is completely preventable.
There should be about half or 3/4 the countainer worth of dirt in total for slings since theyre only really interested in burrowing at this stage. There also needs to be more moisture in the containers, since obviously they aren't big enough for a water dish to fit plus there is a small threat of drowning if there is any standing water, all their hydration comes from their food and the substrate. They also won't have a hard exoskeleton for the first several molts in their life in order to grow faster, which means they're very prone to drying out, probably the reason that there were some dead babies. As others have said, and as you mention in the video, best practice is definitely to pull the eggsac. Mama creates a sterile, moist environment for the eggs so they won't dry out in the sac. Then, before they hatch, when in the eggs with legs stage, most will break open the sac and put all the babies in an incubation type setup to ensure they all go through their first few molts okay. Once they start resembling slings, basically the stage they're at in this video, they're separated. But keeping them in a properly moist environment from the eggs with legs stage will reduce mortality rates for the slings in short and long term. There are tons of great and informational videos on these methods, if you ever decide to do this again 😊 I probably repeated some stuff other have said, I just wanted to share the specifics from my experiences. Congrats on the slings!
I highly recommend watching Dave's beasties if you're curious in breeding other tarantula species. Ive watched him for quite a while he's amazing and he's so educational on every subject. P.s Also 🎉 CONGRATULATIONS 🎉
Absolutely agree. Dave’s Little Beasties is like the Fred Rogers of TH-cam invertebrates. Truly a fascinating channel. Always remember. Be calm. Be Gentle. And love your spider.
My favorite part of your channel is how excited Emily gets when there are babies! Be them snakes, spiders, etc. Emily's exclamation of "Babies!" is just pure joy. ❤
I've always admired snake discovery for their content but something in this video doesn't sit right with me, maybe it's the lack of preparation when they advocate so much for education, maybe it's the "oh well, what happens happens" approach like they don't care if the babies live or die
Your reaction was like me this year breeding snakes for the first time. Paired my corn snakes together. First time breeding for both of them, and mama laid 22 eggs, with only 1 slug. The other 21 incubated full turn and all hatched with no abnormalities like kinks or cleft lips or missing eyes. So now I am riding the struggle bus of establishing 21 baby corns. 🙃
I have quite bad arachnophobia...but your enthusiasm and care for your animals and the way you present this made it easy to watch without freaking out. I love the exhibit sign, like one of those naughty 'i keep spilling my food' signs for dogs lol
I also have arachnophobia, and I was doing okay for most of the video until Emily showed that absolute SWARM of babies. Then I had to look away lmao. I envy your ability to watch the whole video! And I agree, the sign was fantastic haha
@@QilleWolf insects in general freak me out...(i know spiders arent insects but yknow, bugs n things...) even in games when ik they arent real, like the antlions from half life for example gross me out i had to do the beach with help...but had to bail on the nest it made you go in i nearly threw up >.
Definitely best practice to stand by with the male with some tongs, a paint brush, or other barriers that can be used to separate the two after a successful insertion. To avoid cannibalism, it's also good practice to keep the female well fed before pairing, and some folks will even put the male in a small container in the female's enclosure for a day or so, so that she's used to his presence. You can let mom incubate them all the way if you like, just grab the sac once they hit the ewl stage (so-called eggs with legs) or after an initial culling at 1st or 2nd instar, as the babies will tend to stick together in the burrow for a few days before they venture out. The reason for pulling at ewl stage is convenience and to prevent the weakest babies from being cannibalized by their siblings, though letting the clutch fully hatch is perfectly fine. These little guys are going to be tiny for an absolute age.
I highly recommend watching some of Dave's Little Beasties for tarantula breeding, their sling nurseries are perfect and will prevent you from having to pull all these babies out of a dirt enclosure. This was adorable to see though! I hope the slings grow well! 🥰
When I was a kid, there was a place called "Lion Country Safari". Basically, there were drive through enclosures with lions (among many other animals). They had a pride of lionesses, but every time they put a male in with them, the next morning, he'd been attacked by the lionesses. Finally, they put a very old male lion named Frasier in with them. They figured it was worth a try, even though they were aware that there was a high probability that the lionesses might kill him. Next morning, he was fine, and the lionesses loved him. He was so old he couldn't walk well, and two of the lionesses would walk on either side of him to help him get around.
Also - that cricket will eat or injure the babies especially. I’ve always been taught that if your T doesn’t eat the cricket then you absolutely must take it out, as they can Injure your spider
Great to see the babies, spiderlings are super cute, but I have to admit I was surprised at how un prepared you seemed? Your breeding practices are always excellent so it was odd to see less care taken here, and I was wondering if there was a reason for that? Loved the Cheyenne cameo!
So I am not a part of snake discovery nor an expert on their practices but I would like an informed guess: Why did they just throw the male in there with no attempts to save him? They said that he was already very old. In tarantulas (spiders in general) the females live for several years, some even ten and more while the males die a lot sooner. The males grow into adulthood and from that moment on their time is running. Now I don't know what Emily and Ed consider "old" but if the male was already an adult male for a while with them then he would have died in a few months anyway. This way he could provide the female with a lot of nutrients for the developing babies instead of being a dead body from old age discarded in the trash Why were they so unprepared? Again just a guess but Emily stated several times that she thought the eggs/babies were a lost cause so maybe that's why she didn't prepare to much for there actually being so many alive slings. Greetings from Germany 😊
My exact thoughts!! Two babies in the same container? Oh well, bad luck I guess. Not enough substrate/water in the cups? We'll see what happens :), it just doesn't seem right
The female does help care for the egg sac and it really should not be removed unless your experienced in caring for the sac. The female rotates it and such.
As mentioned above; also, she said it was her first time breeding this species of spider so unless this is her 11th hatch, I think Emily did very well letting Mom keep it.
I was suprised to see they hadnt moved the whole rock into a container cos seems like that was a really good place that they could have moved it when it was in the rock, but we dont see everything in a video so who knows their reasoning, i do hope the rest of the babies in the enclosure were searched
I should start by saying I am not the most qualified person in the world to talk about this because the only tarantula I have is one little curly hair who I will never breed. That being said, I have done tons of research on many different species and basically everything involving tarantulas and I was wondering if this process didn't sit right with anyone else? I understand that the male was old but throwing him in the female's environment unsupervised for two whole days makes it seem like his life wasn't even trying to be preserved. I understand that everyone at the facility is very busy but almost any responsible tarantula breeder will breed them in a relatively controlled environment and watch every second of the process to make sure they can try and separate the two if things get out of control. Of course things do still happen occasionally and nature will take its course but again, why wasn't there even an attempt to save his life? I've seen a few comments defending that by claiming that it's just added nutrients for her but the male won't give her any more nutrients than a big meal a day before the breeding would. Personally, I'm not going to get into the whole egg sac thing because I've seen multiple comments already addressing it and it was also briefly mentioned at the end of the video. I just feel like the whole process seemed very rushed and inexperienced. Snake Discovery obviously has a very big audience of people who might not know much about tarantulas and I don't think posting this as if it's common, responsible practice was a great idea. I know everyone at Snake Discovery loves their animals and the way Emily handled the babies just proves that. I'm by no means saying they knew that this was irresponsible but I definitely don't think this was a great way to go about the process at all.
Honestly I would argue this was irresponsible of Snake Discovery. They are EXTREMELY busy and are constantly saying so. We know their main focus is breeding reptiles and more so snakes and certain snakes and their morphs. This breeding of the spiders felt very under researched and not much effort put into it.
I agree. This was upsetting to watch. Very unprofessional, unprepared, and a little unethical to me. The way they kinda decided that he was going to die before he was even in there was frustrating and unsavory. Being in her enclosure for two days proves it was preventable in this case. It kinda seemed like they had this female to replace him in the zoo and didn't have a purpose for him anymore. They have such a large following that I worry people will emulate their example. They are usually so knowledgeable with everything else.
I don’t have a tarantula nor have I researched into their husbandry beyond videos from channels like Exotics Lair, but even I recognized some unusual mistakes from Snake Discovery. I get that they’re busy, but some of the choices they made seemed like they could have been prevented if they spent even an hour of research into breeding them. There was just an air that they didn’t care what happened to the well-being of the male tarantula (they knew he would probably get eaten and did nothing) and moving the babies. Between this and the duckling video other people have mentioned, I’m pretty disappointed in them at the moment.
RIP Question Mark the Red Rump. He did his noble duty well and went on to greener enclosures. He is survived by his wife Natashalie (I don't know her actual name and I know that she's not a black widow, don't at me) who he knew for short but fruitful romance. He is also survived by his beloved children; Comma, Apostrophe, Colon, Semicolon, Asterisk, Ampersand, Copyright Symbol, Octothorpe, and many many many more. Rest in peace old man.
You guys are too funny. Love watching your videos. I watch Exotics Lair as well so I’m used to seeing a streamlined process for collecting slings. It’s nice to see how first timers handle this. “We’re gonna need a lot more cups.” lol
Congrats, baby Ts are adorable. By the way for the future, always introduce the male to the females enclosures. And for spider resources, Daves Little Beasties, Toms Big Spiders, The Dark Den, and tarantula Kat are great channels. I so hope you have a LOT of fruit flies LMAO
Yep, I just recommended Dave, too. I think he'll probably be the best, altho if Emily could actually get Tom up to do a video and help out, that would be awesome-their educational interests should align!
@@calliew311 it's not clear how long it was "her" enclosure before they put him back in, tho. T. vagans are really inconsistent in webbing, so we can't use that as an indication. But given what we know about phermones, it really should have been a pretty decent amount of time to allow her to remodel her enclosure, lay down new webes and lines, and generally getting it to smell right. Also, while yes, males should be introduced to the female (they males wander, the females stay home), this doesn't mean the male shouldn't be given a safe avenue to say NOPE and decide he wasn't into it.
@@khills oh I fully agree 💯. It's not a forgone conclusion that males will be eaten. I don't like when people don't try to protect the male, but I took from what Emily said that, the male was about to die anyway, like he was on his last leg. It doesn't make it ok, but it makes it a little more understandable that they didn't try to watch and intercede during and after the pairing.
You should also cover up the porthole looking into the burrow next time, as the mother may feel stressed from people peeking out at her and eat her sac
That was a lot of fun! I had tarantulas when I was little, but I never tried to breed them. I absolutely love your enthusiasm for your animals, btw! That alone is enough to put a smile on my face when I watch your videos.
Please, if you do this again, don't leave the male in with the female unsupervised!! I get that you're probably very busy but it's almost a certainty that he'll end up as lunch. Instead, give the female a snack the day before, and then watch them while you put them together. The male usually runs off after he's "done his thing" and then you can separate them.
I kind of get the idea his death just wasn't a big deal. But yeah, I was kinda horrified they just… left them together, with no possible way for the male to escape. That seemed incredibly cruel, and is not what I generally think of Emily and Ed.
@@watsername It happens in nature yes but this isn't nature. Also a good portion of males make the escape rather than get eaten. It's best to monitor the breeding and try and remove the male as quickly as possible.
@@watsername Something being possible in nature doesn't mean it HAS to happen, and being eaten to death is not a "good" way to go. This male very well may have been able to get away and die a natural death, if he'd been given the opportunity. Because in actual nature, his avenue for leaving wouldn't have been cut off. Being in an enclosed tank with no escape is about as far from "nature" as it gets.
Usually most people pull the egg sack 30 days after she lays it and generally they're ewls make a bowl with moist substrate a couple holes and make sure it stays warm or if u make a cup with a false bottom then put panty hose over the cut off bottom u can set it inside another cup and add 1/4 of the bottom cup of water and put lid on the top that also can be a way to keep the ewls till they molt and get their hairs but if u leave it with mom once u see them hatched if u ad for for mom she will Bing it back for the babies to eat on as well so she kinda teaches em to eat and makes it easier to get them on live prey
I hope everybody does their research before getting a sling. The species can be a little spunky tho not as bad as some. Either way congratulations on the babies. But I'd recommend it like other people said checking out Tom's big spider tips and videos.
A sling is a spiderling- not particular to any one species. People should always do their research when getting spider/tarantulas ... and even MORE research when it comes to breeding. So I fully agree!!
@@caseybarnes4221 yeai should have said any sling. I'm not trying to be negative,so I'm not sure how I should phrase it, but I know that there's a lot of young viewers that may get in over their heads.
@@ssarithkeesee5106 I absolutely agree. Not here to say your statement was at all wrong- just helping those who wish to invest to actually invest in the research before just purchasing something that'll "look cool". Animals and inverts are creatures that need extra care because we (unfortunately) live in a society that abandons animals the minute they're considered hard.
I just looked up some info on the species and it says they can be grumpy about handling… is it like with some reptiles that the more they’re handled at a young age, the better they get used to it? Not that I’d want to take it out very often! Just once or twice a month or so
@@hadla it depends on the specimen and its temperament can change with each molt, They can't be trained And don't really get much from handling It usually distresses them, they'd be perfectly happy if you never held them. You can handle your own risk but they're kind of a look don't touch pet.
I have to tell y’all, I started watching your channel when my oldest was just 2, he’s 6.5 now. And my daughter was just a baby. She’s sitting here with me watching this video now as a 5 year old. 🥰 They LOVE snakes, and all kinds of animals and have learned SO much thanks to y’all!!!! No snakes here. Yet. But it’s only a matter of time before my husband gives in. He’s held out so far, but he can’t beat 3 other people for much longer 😜🤣
Definitely feels like the unfortunate death of the male could have been avoid. In captivity, tarantula breeding is often supervised, so the male can be separated right after he does the deed, reducing the risk of becoming a snack
Why? Yes males try to get away to mate with as many females as possible, but there was no other females for this male, he was old like very near death, now they could have caught him just just to slowly waste away, and be thrown away, or rather than wasting a nutritionists food source, he aided in the development of of his offspring.
@@zebedeemadness2672 It is a matter a valueing the male's life and letting him die peacefully of old age instead of dying fighting for his life. The male was still healthy despite being old, otherwise he wouldn't breed, and who knows, next year could be a breeder again, instead of having to wait for another male to mature. Furthermore, for tarantula keepers, tarantulas are often their "pets" and losing an individual on their collection is inevitably sad, therefore, if they can avoid it, why not do it?
@@niela2455 Why does this male have more valu over a Cockroach "equally pets"? Both are arthropods, both would die the same way, being eaten by a Tarantula. Being a male Tarantula, his life goal is to mate (pass on genes) with the risk of being eaten, he did that, life goal complete, giving nutrition for offspring development.
@@zebedeemadness2672 Well, because the tarantulas are on display, one would consider the tarantulas are the "pets" and the cockroaches are merely food on this situation, hence why there's more value on the tarantulas. And even though in nature tarantulas often eat their partners, doesn't mean it has to happen in breeding programs. Similar how in nature some snakes die in the egg because they weren't able to develop the egg tooth to slice it and get out, but in breeding programs the eggs are cut to help them survive. Would it be better to not interfer and just let the babies die?
@@niela2455 They have cockroaches on display, if display = pets? Not a valid reply 😉, both are inverts, the only thing stopping Tarantulas being a food source is they hold a cash value, that's why Tarantulas are valid above Cockroaches? If Tarantula hawk wasps was common pets, you'd find cheaper Tarantula species being sold for people to breed there Tarantula hawk wasps. You know nothing of the breeding attempt, you don't know if there was anything they could have done, you don't know if they mated in the tunnel, and if she grabbed him straight after mating, once he's been got, there's no point in doing anything, what you gonna do? Rip the tunnel open to save him? His life mission is to pass his genes on, with the risk of being eaten, his mission was successful, but he got eaten, deal with it.
Sorry but you guys lost me this video. For a channel that is all about ethics and being educated on reptile/ animal husbandry, this video does not reflect that. It just felt messy and chaotic. Like how do you NOT know how to breed spiders with the number of connections im sure you guys have. At least the basic preparations. AT LEAST. This video kinda shocked me, it took me back. I’m lowkey disappointed in you Emily and Ed because you guys know that your audience really believes you guys and your information and so for you to make such a video about tarantula breeding that is not entirely accurate and acceptable it sad. Please do better. 😓 Happy you guys got baby spiders though, wish you luck with them. ❤️
Next time ya pair ur ts of any species keep tabs on when the female molts because the closer u can get her paired to her molt less of a chance she molts out of the pairing has worked great for me so far
I watched a couple of T sling videos. Some keepers seem to take the eggsack out before they hatch so its easier to collect the spiderlings. (similar to how you take the eggs out of the snake habitats). (lol if my BF didn't hate spiders this would be tempting)
These kind of videos really show us that the animals are well-cared for and feel safe in the zoo. I mean, I don't know how many videos of baby animals I've watched so far on your channel, it's incredible.
@@khills True. However, Emily has requested advice, tips, and tricks to make the next go-round better. She stated it was their first time with tarantulas, and that they would hopefully be more knowledgeable for the next time. They own up to mistakes, are continuously learning to make things better, and are not afraid to ask when they don't know something. That, to me, still makes this one of the best channels out there.
@@warriormaiden9829 I normally feel that way about Emily and Ed, too, but the jokes they were making in this video about letting spiders die because they were unprepared were… really not great. Likewise, they let a spider be eaten to death, which is not a good way to go, adult jokes aside-and they did it because they were too busy. In fact, that's been a theme for the last few months of videos. Emily and Ed have become too busy to DO properly. So eggs are rotting, spiders are being sacrificed - and it's all being presented as okay and something to monetize rather than something that is a problem to fix. It's not a good trend for the channel.
@@khills That is a very good point. I'd been noticing that as well, but hadn't quite put two and two together like that. Hopefully they'll realize this, and do what they can to change this.
Loved the Monty Python reference! I'm glad the old man got one last hurrah on his way out. I also think him getting eaten was natural since it more than likely would've happened if they were in the wild. Nature happens! It's sad most people just don't get that the "inhumane risks" you take are actually very natural occurrences in the first place.
I'm glad your project was successful, but I hope you're open to a bit of constructive criticism? I am not a tarantula keeper myself, but even from watching the odd video on the internet, I could spot some easy beginner mistakes, like leaving the male in and more importantly, not removing the eggsac. Your surprise at their numbers surprised me, because ANY care guide/hatching video/hobby breeder could have let you known there would be a metric heckton of them. What I am also a little worried about was (and I hope someone can reassure me bc this is just my own train of thought) that there were a bunch of slings in a terrarium they could get out of, inside a building they could reasonably survive in. A public building, too. If one escapes and shows up in a few months as an adult, that could turn problematic? I know everyone at Snake Discovery loves the animals dearly, and your snake breeding videos inspired me and some friends to breed our own hognoses (successfully)! Your set-ups and care-taking of sick snakes helped a lot, too. I got a snake loose from tape with your help. I found an escaped snake with your help. I'm just hoping that the next tarantula breeding will improve on the mistakes in this one.
OMGlob, that beautiful big egg sac! I was just playing this in the background, but then I looked when you looked and WOW! What a happy nifty exciting event!
I need to start raising/breeding taratulas so I'll have an answer to stupid questions about getting children. I could just say "I had so many babies last week!!" and annoying people would just beg me not to see the pictures.
I'd like to preface this comment with saying I love snake discovery and most of the things they put out. I'm usually ecstatic to see every new video. However; I'm disappointed in this video if I'm being honest. It seemed like they weren't prepared at all. Plus making jokes about the babies left in the enclosure as them now being in a hunger games scenario (a very cruel triwisted game of kill or be killed). Idk, but it just seemed unsavory to me to say your just going to let the babies die cruelly because you had enough already. Being prepared for the amount of babies possible is a responsibility a breeder should take seriously. I get that there were a lot, but a quick google search can confirm that it is common to have this many at one time. I mean they would never do that with their garter snake babies for example. They empty the entire enclosure to make sure they get every last one of those. I was also not impressed with leaving the male in to die without being able to escape. At least in the wild they have a chance to escape the female, but in captivity without aid they have no chance at survival and it's just a matter if time. Again they wouldn't do that if it were a snake. I get that they are busy and they are "just spiders", but of breeder isn't fully prepared with knowledge, time, and effort then maybe it should have waited until they were actually ready to take on the task properly. They have such a large following that they need to set a good example as a lot of people will emulate their example.
I was disgusted and even more disgusted by that bit at the end! They were so lazy and used their excuse of "it's late" to not seperate them??! They totally weren't prepared for half of this stuff.
Pro tip: Tarantula breeders don't leave the egg sac with mom. Most breeders usually take it when the babies are ready to go into the "eggs with legs" stage. Then they cut open the sac. As soon as the babies mold into F1 in a separate container, they start to separate them.
Agree!!! I watch to much spider youtubers to know this. 🤣 but it is much easier to take the sack out than to try catch each baby. 😂
Yessss, agree
I'm glad someone else mentioned this! It's easier to keep track of all the babies once you've removed the egg sac from mom and can monitor it in incubation.
DeadlyTarantualGirl, Dave's Little Beasties, Tarantula Kat, etc... are all good resources.
Same!! Spidertube is great... Lol
And you don't leave the male with her. You let him breed, you watch it... and after breeding you take the male out. Babies take 40 days to hatch. And you take the eggsack out of the enclosure too...
I feel like the sweaters have helped Cheyenne’s feathers and confidence. She looks cozy and warm now.
They've also changed her diet, as per advice from the channel 'Bird Tricks'. Bird Tricks also taught them some avian training techniques. While it's hard to say, it seems plausible that the combination (plus cozy sweaters!) may have settled Cheyenne down. I think the fact that Emily and Ed are around her more regularly since opening the facility could also be a factor. Ed no longer has a day job, and groups are more likely to come to Emily for programs in the classroom rather than Emily having to travel, which may increase Cheyenne's feelings of security, too.
Wished i known bout bird sweaters before if i had would of figured out how to get grandma cockatoo one he has bad habit when stress to pluck out his own feathers until he bleeds on his chest dont know why
@@PamLinebaugh42 I don't think the exact cause is known for sure, but feather plucking happens relatively commonly within birds that have gone through some kind of trauma or stressful situations. I'm not trying to speculate on what happened to your grannies bird at all though, just sharing the information that I do know in hopes that it may provide some insight! :)
Birds are complex creatures so I couldn't say what exactly causes them to decide to chronically hurt themselves
This looks more nerve racking than when they find all the garder snakletts. And I thought finding garder snakes babies was a headache and a half to find
@@PamLinebaugh42 As a follow up to what @finthefishsep20toma said, once a bird gets into the habit of feather plucking it can be very hard for them to stop. Even if they begin recieving the care they need they may not stop plucking and often times if a spot has been plucked for too long the feathers just don't come back.
Im a tarantula keeper and I just have a few tips and comments here ^^
First of all just want to say you guys are awesome ^^
and I am aware that this your first time, these are just loving tips and tricks I am giving you guys
1. The sling you picked up first was dehydrated hence the legs looking a bit curled up and wobbly when it walks
2. The amount of misting you did in the small container wasn't actually enough for slings, They need to have semi moist substrate as slings and then less when they get older, Just make sure to mist them more as slings then as juveniles
3. If you find the fruit flies aren't working as feeders you can also pre-kill small roaches and leave them in the container for 24 hours at a time. I find just a leg of a decent size roach also works ^^
4. As you know already it seems, taking the egg sack out just before hatching also works wonders ^^
5. Just saying it again, misting the babies frequently at this age is vital
Other then that, you guys are doing a great job as first time T breeders
Cant wait to see how they grow if you do keep some ^^
Commenting for a boost, awesome tips dude!
Sweet tips! Maybe let us know if u get some red back babies 😂
I'm so glad you stated this; they will educate themselves on this.
I feel like they should have done more search before attempting 🤷🏼♀️
@@crypticgaming6171 Exactly!! WTF?
Emily: Wow look at that egg sack! There must be thousands of eggs in there!
Also Emily: Only grabs 20 viles*
Probably assumed they’d all be eaten by the time she went in to catch some 😥
She has no clue - zilch research done beforehand
they had plenty of other little cups to put them in if you watch further into the video, and even say at the end, they're going out right after they finish filming the outro to buy more vials
@@jayceewedmak9524 yeah I was pretty disappointed in this video. Like I get they're busy but they clearly did no research and they should have.
@@CaspiRose99 Yes. They have viewers - they could have put a shout-out saying what they were planning to do and asked for help. Or watched any amount of videos. They clearly love "animals". I just don't understand the approach they took in this case - and laughed about it.
I'm a huge tarantula nerd. This is so exciting! I'm not surprised that a T. vagans ate her boyfriend, but I am shocked that he was calm enough to let you free handle him!
I was thinking the same😂
let's hope the babies have his personality somehow
It’s been a long time since I’ve bred tarantulas but when I showed them pictures on the ones I sadly had to euthanize the ones that I got last year because the jerk of my ex best friend said “what’s the problem with a FEW extra baby spiders” and mind you she knew exactly what she was doing she put one of my youngest tarantulas that could breed in and not only did my male tarantula get killed but I had to kill more than like 100 baby spiders as well and I know she did it on purpose yeah that was really fun
Oh sorry got off track I KNOWINGLY, and RESPONSIBLY bred one of my oldest tarantulas that could still breed so my friends could add more breeders to their breeding collections
That is the actual end of my story
You breed them too?
this womans so wholesome its adorable, her excitment over the lil spooderlings is really fun to see
1 or 2 things her name is Emily(If you forgot or didn't know) and this one was probably a spelling mistake(Which i do all the time) but it's spiderlings
@@simbachannel7173 they probably knew Emily's name haha also "spooderlings" is just a funny way to say spiderlings :)) spider=spooder
@@spoondirtmeow yeah
@@simbachannel7173 thanks m8 i got a terrible memory and forgot her name, think iv heard it before, also i like to use the slang spooder instead of spider, i often do the same for other adorable animals like saying doggo or pupper instead of dog, since these are some of my favorite animals i cant help feeling a small personal connection to any i see, wasint always that way, i used to have arachnophobia ^^
@@shardinhand1243 Happy you are enjoying spooders now :) I still hate cockroaches myself
I love how the sign starts with "I ate my husband." You can't get any more"spidery" than that.
May you please have baby octopuses or you can free the mama or you can have some tarantulas that are buried dinner shoes because I don’t like tarantulas and they’re so disgusting and I’m afraid of tarantulas is Fezi and I am afraid seven years seven I mean I am eight years old and I like to see some baby octopuses. Thank you.
Enjoy Enjoy everything that you did for the Ed Sheeran. I think I’m gonna spoil my anxieties or the octopus I mean OK bye-bye
@@graphicrascalz5920wtf are you talking about?? Also if your scared of soiders, why are you watching a video literally about spiders??
You may want to use a fan paint brush in the future to catch the spiderlings. They’re flatter than the paint brush you used with much more surface area to cling to and/or catch the falling babies
One thing with the dirt: unless they're arboreal or semi-arboreal there's basically not enough dirt. you want the tarantula to be able to build a deep tunnel for a few molts. They'll be absolutely fine in there but for the next time you can easily fill those (first) containers up til the half with dirt.
Definitely needs more dirt. But they probably want the spiders to be viewable for the zoo. Hopefully no one falls on those decorations.
pro tips: remove the egg sac at the ewl stage as mentioned previously, but also, to preserve the male, keep him in a smaller enclosure until breeding and dont leave them together after pairing! separate after insemination
Great tip! However I do believe the male was left in intentionally despite the norm due to the male being quite old and nearing his brink, the thought process was that he would have a better chance at breeding her with more time and the male could act as a high source of nutrition for the female through the process seeing as he likely wouldn't make it much longer anyway
I got the impression they left him in there to make multiple attempts if he survived his first, owed to him being really old and not having a future.
I think the context a lot of the whinier people were missing is that an old male tarantula is about to die. They don’t live long, and spend the end of their lives searching for a female. If separated, he’d continue searching until he died from starvation or his next attempt to shed.
Literally the best thing to do is to have him fulfill his biological prerogative and maximize the number of offspring he sires. Being eaten is the best way to do this.
I just have two cats and I'm going to get three
@@Delightedly That maybe what a person may think but looking at the response of almost ALL male tarantulas to GET the HELL outta there before she eats me leads many to believe that he WANTS to live not be and NOT be eaten by the female. That doesn't necessarily make people the WHINIER people....
Tarantula nerd here 😂 when you breed tarantulas you are supposed to supervise the mating and take away the male as soon as he is finished and has ran away from the female. Otherwise the female will eat him. The female becomes stunned after the mating leaving time for the male to run away and that's when you take him out. So you could have saved the old man.
I kinda get the impression that they didn't want or care if he survived. I might be wrong, but that was the impression I got.
@@SPW1031WI think he would have died either way
@judibuckman178 Everything eventually dies either way, but that doesn't mean you take unnecessary risks. For example, I just had a 20 year old cat pass away last year naturally. He lived a long life and was "going to die soon" anyway. However, it would have been irresponsible and cruel of me to put him outside for hours where he had no protection and we could hear coyotes that we constantly hear at night out they would likely get him just because he "lived a long life." It was a cruel way to go and wasn't necessary, in my opinion. I've seen many responsible professional tarantula breeders and how they take the appropriate caution when breeding them. They don't stick them in the enclosure where the male can't escape and leave him in there for hours. The ones I have watched don't even stop watching the pair at any point and remove him if the female becomes aggressive. Sure, there are still risks, but they take all the precautions they can to prevent this kind of thing from happening. They just didn't have a need for him anymore and had a new male to take it's place, in my opinion. It would've been more kind to use the same method of culling that they do for mice rather than leaving him knowing it was inevitable he would eventually be attacked and eaten.
This video is making me realize just how far Snake Discovery videos have helped me come from my arachnophobia. While I still have problems with interacting with actual spiders (mostly "big", non-tarantula spiders like the local giant house spider and huntsmen), I'm very good with our local jumpers and a LONG way from "throwing the laptop once and hyperventilating when a picture of a spider suddenly surprised me". Thank you guys so much
I just wanted to let you know I have officially discovered the joys of breeding! I ordered neocaridina shrimp a few weeks ago and I was so excited when I realised there were babies. The babies are so cute! They're so tiny.
I hope breeding goes well for you that super exciting 😀 good luck keep up the hard work
Congrats! I’m just starting to get things together to breed crickets. I started with just trying to keep them alive (until my beardie eats them, that is) and I think I’m _almost_ ready to breed them. It’s been interesting, thus far. I never knew keeping insects could be so neat. I bet shrimp are even more fascinating!
@@Thurston86 THANK YOU for the awesome idea!!
I really want to start with SOMETHING, but I'm not ready for many of my fav options. Breeding the feeder insects, though.... 🤩
Dont worry - I am NOT going into this (or anything else) on impulse. I'll do research and take time to get that first exciting rush to pass, and reasonable thought to reign. 😂 But, this IS an exciting idea for me to check out!!
I also am maybe a little weird, in that I LOVE the sounds of crickets. I've actually considered keeping them anyway, with no other reason than because I like them 😂😂.
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🦗🦗🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Yay Neocaridina shrimps are awesome :) I have one tank of red ones (red cherries and mostly sakuras, also the racing stripe females) and one or two accidental yellows ( I got yellow male while buying red variation), and on the other tank I have mix (I want to breed one "cleaner" the red ones and in big tank I want to breed crazy morphs including wild type) So far I have tons of reds (almost all are sakura and fire), second are blue velvets. Babies so far are red or blue, some are pale blue, I spotted blueish grey too. But watch out for mixbreeding them, if you want solid color, breed only one color in one tank.
@@KOKO-uu7yd You’re very welcome! Feeders seems like a good place to start, if you’re interested in breeding. In preparation, I’ve been watching a lot of The Cricket Lady, here on TH-cam. She breeds crickets for human consumption and seems like a good source. The sound is actually quite pleasant but they’re so loud I had to move them to the bottom level of my house so my beardie doesn’t constantly hear them! Lol. Good luck, if you decide to give it a try!
Before watching this video, I just wanna say I'm arachnophobic and this is very brave of me. I'm showing my utmost love for this channel.
So glad I'm not the only one
Good job for facing your fear!!! 😊
Same here. I'll be four minutes behind you!
Good for you! Very brave of you! I just can't bring myself to watch it. Give me a snake any day, no spiders!!!
Me too
Chyanne looks like she has feathers again and shes not just a uncooked chicken for the most part, can we get an update vid on her training as well as her feathers if theres been any regrowth? You go raw chicken!!
I’m sure you’ve been corrected on a few things in the rest of the comments. I just wanted to offer up myself if you need more spider advice or help. I’m a spider biologist and have been breeding tarantulas for around 20 years. I’m happy to help 😊
When I saw how few bottles Emily had to get the babys, I was waiting for the moment she realize its not gonna be enough hahahahaha
Emily: They lay 100 - 300 eggs.
Also Emily: I have saved up these 30ish containers for slings.
Same observation.
I saw like 15 and I was like girl you better go grab some deli cups
😆 Exactly!
@@laartje24 she didnt expect so many to make it
I love seeing a variety of animals on your channel and not only snakes
But snakes are still pretty cool.
@@archiegrant2063 indeed i didn't say they weren't
I love how Emily is so happy at having 80+ babies but I have to say I wasn't surprised. Actually I was surprised at how few babies there were because some or most tarantula species can have over 1000. Thankfully for Snake Discovery Red Rump's typically have between 100 to 300.
I had a good giggle when Emily proudly displayed all the like six containers she'd been saving ready for slings 😂🤣😂 Was pretty sure you were going to need a lot more 😂
I would also suggest sifting through all that substrate and doing a deep clean of the enclosure just to make sure you have all the babies out because even if some are left in there the chances of them surviving and the mom deciding that her children are food is a lot higher
I don't think they have the room to keep them alive honestly. They would have to euthanise them at best. Probably easier to let them get eaten, unfortunately.
@@OhSoUnicornly are they not going to sell the ones they caught?
All they have to do is get more 1oz plastic cups. They're like 5 bucks. And you can sell the slings for 25 bucks a piece or higher so it'd be incredibly wasteful and thoughtless to not at least attempt to get the rest of them out. They'd sell.
i think thats what they meant by "hunger games", theyre just gonna let the mom eat them
@@DoorsToHideBehind156 I don't think they would sell tbh :x Idk, I'm not an expert in tarantula economics but selling like 100 of ANYTHING is difficult when you're a small scale shop. They have to feed them all while they wait for them to sell (again, imagine doing ANYTHING literally 100 or more times every few days(?), and feeding is probably at least 15-20 seconds apiece). I'm a vegan so I don't like unnecessary death, but you just can't save that many slings. In the wild a majority of them would die and there's just too many in captivity to save them all and separate them into individual containers.
Me, looking at my pet jumping spider: Please don’t be pregnant…
My jumping spider, just sitting on her little decorative mushroom: 👀 👀 👀 👀
🤣
The number of eyes xD
@@meganclare7 😂😂😂😂
Does your jumping spider have 8 or 6 eyes? I know many only have a vestigial pair
Wish I could see your jumping spider and her little decorative mushroom. Must be a cute sight.
"Nature is cruel sometimes" is a funny way to explain a preventable death in captivity lmao
actaully in nature its very common for the female to eat the male, its actually very important for them as it gives the female a good source of nutrients to feed mom and babies, just natural instincts. same way a lot of mammels eat the placenta after a birth to recoup energy
@@Kytti-not-kitty I know, but animals in captivity are pretty far removed from 'nature'. The death of the male was entirely preventable and not at all necessary to provide adequate nutrients to the female (I assume SD has access to other food items to give the female? Why would the male be crucial for nutrition?)
Whether he was old or not, being eaten by another spider is a pretty stressful/unpleasant way to go, and something they could have avoided if they had cared to.
I would agree. According to many others, this was extremely preventable and they had a good chance at doing so. They just chose to be lazy!
@@Kytti-not-kitty But this isn't nature. This would be like housing a smaller hognose with a bigger one and when the bigger one eats the smaller one, saying "they do it in nature" when it is completely preventable.
There should be about half or 3/4 the countainer worth of dirt in total for slings since theyre only really interested in burrowing at this stage. There also needs to be more moisture in the containers, since obviously they aren't big enough for a water dish to fit plus there is a small threat of drowning if there is any standing water, all their hydration comes from their food and the substrate. They also won't have a hard exoskeleton for the first several molts in their life in order to grow faster, which means they're very prone to drying out, probably the reason that there were some dead babies. As others have said, and as you mention in the video, best practice is definitely to pull the eggsac. Mama creates a sterile, moist environment for the eggs so they won't dry out in the sac. Then, before they hatch, when in the eggs with legs stage, most will break open the sac and put all the babies in an incubation type setup to ensure they all go through their first few molts okay. Once they start resembling slings, basically the stage they're at in this video, they're separated. But keeping them in a properly moist environment from the eggs with legs stage will reduce mortality rates for the slings in short and long term. There are tons of great and informational videos on these methods, if you ever decide to do this again 😊
I probably repeated some stuff other have said, I just wanted to share the specifics from my experiences. Congrats on the slings!
I highly recommend watching Dave's beasties if you're curious in breeding other tarantula species. Ive watched him for quite a while he's amazing and he's so educational on every subject.
P.s Also 🎉 CONGRATULATIONS 🎉
I was just about to recommend him!
Indeed, Dave is the coaching resource they need!
Absolutely agree. Dave’s Little Beasties is like the Fred Rogers of TH-cam invertebrates. Truly a fascinating channel. Always remember. Be calm. Be Gentle. And love your spider.
Dave is awesome
😊
My favorite part of your channel is how excited Emily gets when there are babies! Be them snakes, spiders, etc. Emily's exclamation of "Babies!" is just pure joy. ❤
Love how when Emily lifted the rock it was a sling-nami, babies everywhere!!
I've always admired snake discovery for their content but something in this video doesn't sit right with me, maybe it's the lack of preparation when they advocate so much for education, maybe it's the "oh well, what happens happens" approach like they don't care if the babies live or die
Your enthusiasm and high pitch baby talk toward the baby tarantulas is priceless! 😂😂 You are wonderful. 😊
Your reaction was like me this year breeding snakes for the first time. Paired my corn snakes together. First time breeding for both of them, and mama laid 22 eggs, with only 1 slug. The other 21 incubated full turn and all hatched with no abnormalities like kinks or cleft lips or missing eyes. So now I am riding the struggle bus of establishing 21 baby corns. 🙃
Your enthusiasm is adorable Emily and Ed!!
Congrats on successfully breeding these adorable baby tarantulas!!!
I have quite bad arachnophobia...but your enthusiasm and care for your animals and the way you present this made it easy to watch without freaking out. I love the exhibit sign, like one of those naughty 'i keep spilling my food' signs for dogs lol
I also have arachnophobia, and I was doing okay for most of the video until Emily showed that absolute SWARM of babies. Then I had to look away lmao. I envy your ability to watch the whole video! And I agree, the sign was fantastic haha
@@QilleWolf insects in general freak me out...(i know spiders arent insects but yknow, bugs n things...) even in games when ik they arent real, like the antlions from half life for example gross me out i had to do the beach with help...but had to bail on the nest it made you go in i nearly threw up >.
@@ShikiKiryu I have to play Skyrim with the mod that turns all spiders into bears so homie, I feel ya
I am terrified of spiders. Trying to overcome it
@@QilleWolf I think theres one for Factorio that does something similar
Thanks so much for going and finding all the clips!!! This was an absolutely AWESOME video, Im so glad it got made!!
This is more intriguing/hilarious than the hunt when the Garter's give birth!😄
Definitely best practice to stand by with the male with some tongs, a paint brush, or other barriers that can be used to separate the two after a successful insertion. To avoid cannibalism, it's also good practice to keep the female well fed before pairing, and some folks will even put the male in a small container in the female's enclosure for a day or so, so that she's used to his presence. You can let mom incubate them all the way if you like, just grab the sac once they hit the ewl stage (so-called eggs with legs) or after an initial culling at 1st or 2nd instar, as the babies will tend to stick together in the burrow for a few days before they venture out. The reason for pulling at ewl stage is convenience and to prevent the weakest babies from being cannibalized by their siblings, though letting the clutch fully hatch is perfectly fine. These little guys are going to be tiny for an absolute age.
OML WHY SO LONG!? I clicked “Read more” and then I almost had a heart attack 😂😂😂
I highly recommend watching some of Dave's Little Beasties for tarantula breeding, their sling nurseries are perfect and will prevent you from having to pull all these babies out of a dirt enclosure. This was adorable to see though! I hope the slings grow well! 🥰
Nature is cruel sometimes. I don't think forcing two tarantulas together in a small box is nature lol
I’ve never been so fascinated in my entire life !!! This is awesome 😊
The facility has baby magic because there are always new babies!
When I was a kid, there was a place called "Lion Country Safari". Basically, there were drive through enclosures with lions (among many other animals). They had a pride of lionesses, but every time they put a male in with them, the next morning, he'd been attacked by the lionesses. Finally, they put a very old male lion named Frasier in with them. They figured it was worth a try, even though they were aware that there was a high probability that the lionesses might kill him. Next morning, he was fine, and the lionesses loved him. He was so old he couldn't walk well, and two of the lionesses would walk on either side of him to help him get around.
The little baby “slings” are so so cute
Your enthusiasm and joy for these little spiderlings is amazing and adorable. The babies are so cute >_
I love the chaos of all the babies! And the positive energy you keep from the excitement even when overwhelmed is so fun! ☺️ 🕷
Lol
Also - that cricket will eat or injure the babies especially. I’ve always been taught that if your T doesn’t eat the cricket then you absolutely must take it out, as they can Injure your spider
I love how Emily explains things to Cheyenne she is so kind and positive all the time I like to watch her!
these videos are such great exposure for my fear of spiders, the way you talk to them makes them seem so much less scary
Great to see the babies, spiderlings are super cute, but I have to admit I was surprised at how un prepared you seemed? Your breeding practices are always excellent so it was odd to see less care taken here, and I was wondering if there was a reason for that?
Loved the Cheyenne cameo!
I was thinking the same thing like. oh. you’re just gunna leave him in there with no supervision? no attempts to protect him? 😢
ya they really sent him to his death for no reason
So I am not a part of snake discovery nor an expert on their practices but I would like an informed guess:
Why did they just throw the male in there with no attempts to save him? They said that he was already very old. In tarantulas (spiders in general) the females live for several years, some even ten and more while the males die a lot sooner. The males grow into adulthood and from that moment on their time is running. Now I don't know what Emily and Ed consider "old" but if the male was already an adult male for a while with them then he would have died in a few months anyway. This way he could provide the female with a lot of nutrients for the developing babies instead of being a dead body from old age discarded in the trash
Why were they so unprepared? Again just a guess but Emily stated several times that she thought the eggs/babies were a lost cause so maybe that's why she didn't prepare to much for there actually being so many alive slings.
Greetings from Germany 😊
@@Finschenable Hallo! Danke schön. Das macht Sinn, ich war nur ein bisschen verwirrt!
My exact thoughts!! Two babies in the same container? Oh well, bad luck I guess. Not enough substrate/water in the cups? We'll see what happens :), it just doesn't seem right
Omg I was expecting Emily to just grab the eggsac and put it in a container before the babies hatch out and end up all over the place-- I was wrong XD
The female does help care for the egg sac and it really should not be removed unless your experienced in caring for the sac. The female rotates it and such.
As mentioned above; also, she said it was her first time breeding this species of spider so unless this is her 11th hatch, I think Emily did very well letting Mom keep it.
I was suprised to see they hadnt moved the whole rock into a container cos seems like that was a really good place that they could have moved it when it was in the rock, but we dont see everything in a video so who knows their reasoning, i do hope the rest of the babies in the enclosure were searched
@@kphoenix1394 Disturb a brooding invert too much and they will abort the babies and eat them, it's a great risk to move them around
I should start by saying I am not the most qualified person in the world to talk about this because the only tarantula I have is one little curly hair who I will never breed. That being said, I have done tons of research on many different species and basically everything involving tarantulas and I was wondering if this process didn't sit right with anyone else? I understand that the male was old but throwing him in the female's environment unsupervised for two whole days makes it seem like his life wasn't even trying to be preserved. I understand that everyone at the facility is very busy but almost any responsible tarantula breeder will breed them in a relatively controlled environment and watch every second of the process to make sure they can try and separate the two if things get out of control. Of course things do still happen occasionally and nature will take its course but again, why wasn't there even an attempt to save his life? I've seen a few comments defending that by claiming that it's just added nutrients for her but the male won't give her any more nutrients than a big meal a day before the breeding would.
Personally, I'm not going to get into the whole egg sac thing because I've seen multiple comments already addressing it and it was also briefly mentioned at the end of the video. I just feel like the whole process seemed very rushed and inexperienced. Snake Discovery obviously has a very big audience of people who might not know much about tarantulas and I don't think posting this as if it's common, responsible practice was a great idea. I know everyone at Snake Discovery loves their animals and the way Emily handled the babies just proves that. I'm by no means saying they knew that this was irresponsible but I definitely don't think this was a great way to go about the process at all.
Honestly I would argue this was irresponsible of Snake Discovery. They are EXTREMELY busy and are constantly saying so. We know their main focus is breeding reptiles and more so snakes and certain snakes and their morphs. This breeding of the spiders felt very under researched and not much effort put into it.
I agree. This was upsetting to watch. Very unprofessional, unprepared, and a little unethical to me. The way they kinda decided that he was going to die before he was even in there was frustrating and unsavory. Being in her enclosure for two days proves it was preventable in this case. It kinda seemed like they had this female to replace him in the zoo and didn't have a purpose for him anymore. They have such a large following that I worry people will emulate their example. They are usually so knowledgeable with everything else.
I don’t have a tarantula nor have I researched into their husbandry beyond videos from channels like Exotics Lair, but even I recognized some unusual mistakes from Snake Discovery. I get that they’re busy, but some of the choices they made seemed like they could have been prevented if they spent even an hour of research into breeding them. There was just an air that they didn’t care what happened to the well-being of the male tarantula (they knew he would probably get eaten and did nothing) and moving the babies. Between this and the duckling video other people have mentioned, I’m pretty disappointed in them at the moment.
Although removing the sac might have been preferable, seeing her guard it and hold it between her front legs really warmed my heart. So sweet!!
RIP Question Mark the Red Rump. He did his noble duty well and went on to greener enclosures. He is survived by his wife Natashalie (I don't know her actual name and I know that she's not a black widow, don't at me) who he knew for short but fruitful romance. He is also survived by his beloved children; Comma, Apostrophe, Colon, Semicolon, Asterisk, Ampersand, Copyright Symbol, Octothorpe, and many many many more. Rest in peace old man.
RIP Question Mark 🕷
I love the unadulterated chaos catching baby spiders. Love the snake content but this was definitely a refreshing change of pace. 😂
I wish they had talked with other spider experts. They do so much good; it's sad that this happened.
You guys are too funny. Love watching your videos. I watch Exotics Lair as well so I’m used to seeing a streamlined process for collecting slings. It’s nice to see how first timers handle this. “We’re gonna need a lot more cups.” lol
Congrats, baby Ts are adorable.
By the way for the future, always introduce the male to the females enclosures.
And for spider resources, Daves Little Beasties, Toms Big Spiders, The Dark Den, and tarantula Kat are great channels.
I so hope you have a LOT of fruit flies LMAO
Yep, I just recommended Dave, too. I think he'll probably be the best, altho if Emily could actually get Tom up to do a video and help out, that would be awesome-their educational interests should align!
They did introduce him to her enclosure. Remember, they put him on a rock and said "she's in here".
Yes! I agree! Those are great channels and forgot to mention them!
@@calliew311 it's not clear how long it was "her" enclosure before they put him back in, tho. T. vagans are really inconsistent in webbing, so we can't use that as an indication. But given what we know about phermones, it really should have been a pretty decent amount of time to allow her to remodel her enclosure, lay down new webes and lines, and generally getting it to smell right.
Also, while yes, males should be introduced to the female (they males wander, the females stay home), this doesn't mean the male shouldn't be given a safe avenue to say NOPE and decide he wasn't into it.
@@khills oh I fully agree 💯. It's not a forgone conclusion that males will be eaten. I don't like when people don't try to protect the male, but I took from what Emily said that, the male was about to die anyway, like he was on his last leg. It doesn't make it ok, but it makes it a little more understandable that they didn't try to watch and intercede during and after the pairing.
You should also cover up the porthole looking into the burrow next time, as the mother may feel stressed from people peeking out at her and eat her sac
That was a lot of fun! I had tarantulas when I was little, but I never tried to breed them.
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for your animals, btw! That alone is enough to put a smile on my face when I watch your videos.
Soo many babies...fast babies....little babies....such cute little slings ❤
Please, if you do this again, don't leave the male in with the female unsupervised!! I get that you're probably very busy but it's almost a certainty that he'll end up as lunch. Instead, give the female a snack the day before, and then watch them while you put them together. The male usually runs off after he's "done his thing" and then you can separate them.
I kind of get the idea his death just wasn't a big deal. But yeah, I was kinda horrified they just… left them together, with no possible way for the male to escape. That seemed incredibly cruel, and is not what I generally think of Emily and Ed.
Thing is, it is nature...
@@watsername yes and he was old. He was about to die anyways. We cant save every creature out there.
@@watsername It happens in nature yes but this isn't nature. Also a good portion of males make the escape rather than get eaten. It's best to monitor the breeding and try and remove the male as quickly as possible.
@@watsername Something being possible in nature doesn't mean it HAS to happen, and being eaten to death is not a "good" way to go. This male very well may have been able to get away and die a natural death, if he'd been given the opportunity. Because in actual nature, his avenue for leaving wouldn't have been cut off. Being in an enclosed tank with no escape is about as far from "nature" as it gets.
Dave's little Beasties is like the BEST resource for when you're breeding spiders.
I do love that channel!
Usually most people pull the egg sack 30 days after she lays it and generally they're ewls make a bowl with moist substrate a couple holes and make sure it stays warm or if u make a cup with a false bottom then put panty hose over the cut off bottom u can set it inside another cup and add 1/4 of the bottom cup of water and put lid on the top that also can be a way to keep the ewls till they molt and get their hairs but if u leave it with mom once u see them hatched if u ad for for mom she will Bing it back for the babies to eat on as well so she kinda teaches em to eat and makes it easier to get them on live prey
seeing all the babies in the enclosure as a wiggling mass makes my skin crawl, but when they're by themselves they're adorable
LOL- I actually jumped whenever he lifted up the rock, and the Mama was there XD
You guys were really determined to do this the hardest way possible it seems 😂😂
I hope everybody does their research before getting a sling. The species can be a little spunky tho not as bad as some. Either way congratulations on the babies. But I'd recommend it like other people said checking out Tom's big spider tips and videos.
A sling is a spiderling- not particular to any one species. People should always do their research when getting spider/tarantulas ... and even MORE research when it comes to breeding.
So I fully agree!!
@@caseybarnes4221 yeai should have said any sling. I'm not trying to be negative,so I'm not sure how I should phrase it, but I know that there's a lot of young viewers that may get in over their heads.
@@ssarithkeesee5106 I absolutely agree. Not here to say your statement was at all wrong- just helping those who wish to invest to actually invest in the research before just purchasing something that'll "look cool". Animals and inverts are creatures that need extra care because we (unfortunately) live in a society that abandons animals the minute they're considered hard.
I just looked up some info on the species and it says they can be grumpy about handling… is it like with some reptiles that the more they’re handled at a young age, the better they get used to it? Not that I’d want to take it out very often! Just once or twice a month or so
@@hadla it depends on the specimen and its temperament can change with each molt, They can't be trained And don't really get much from handling It usually distresses them, they'd be perfectly happy if you never held them. You can handle your own risk but they're kind of a look don't touch pet.
Good job. Hope all these babies will thrive
I have to tell y’all, I started watching your channel when my oldest was just 2, he’s 6.5 now. And my daughter was just a baby. She’s sitting here with me watching this video now as a 5 year old. 🥰
They LOVE snakes, and all kinds of animals and have learned SO much thanks to y’all!!!! No snakes here. Yet. But it’s only a matter of time before my husband gives in. He’s held out so far, but he can’t beat 3 other people for much longer 😜🤣
Thank you so much for not cutting this story up into a lot of part 1 part 2 videos over a few weeks I loved seeing the tarantula baby journey. Rip dad
Definitely feels like the unfortunate death of the male could have been avoid. In captivity, tarantula breeding is often supervised, so the male can be separated right after he does the deed, reducing the risk of becoming a snack
Why? Yes males try to get away to mate with as many females as possible, but there was no other females for this male, he was old like very near death, now they could have caught him just just to slowly waste away, and be thrown away, or rather than wasting a nutritionists food source, he aided in the development of of his offspring.
@@zebedeemadness2672 It is a matter a valueing the male's life and letting him die peacefully of old age instead of dying fighting for his life. The male was still healthy despite being old, otherwise he wouldn't breed, and who knows, next year could be a breeder again, instead of having to wait for another male to mature. Furthermore, for tarantula keepers, tarantulas are often their "pets" and losing an individual on their collection is inevitably sad, therefore, if they can avoid it, why not do it?
@@niela2455 Why does this male have more valu over a Cockroach "equally pets"? Both are arthropods, both would die the same way, being eaten by a Tarantula. Being a male Tarantula, his life goal is to mate (pass on genes) with the risk of being eaten, he did that, life goal complete, giving nutrition for offspring development.
@@zebedeemadness2672 Well, because the tarantulas are on display, one would consider the tarantulas are the "pets" and the cockroaches are merely food on this situation, hence why there's more value on the tarantulas. And even though in nature tarantulas often eat their partners, doesn't mean it has to happen in breeding programs. Similar how in nature some snakes die in the egg because they weren't able to develop the egg tooth to slice it and get out, but in breeding programs the eggs are cut to help them survive. Would it be better to not interfer and just let the babies die?
@@niela2455 They have cockroaches on display, if display = pets? Not a valid reply 😉, both are inverts, the only thing stopping Tarantulas being a food source is they hold a cash value, that's why Tarantulas are valid above Cockroaches? If Tarantula hawk wasps was common pets, you'd find cheaper Tarantula species being sold for people to breed there Tarantula hawk wasps. You know nothing of the breeding attempt, you don't know if there was anything they could have done, you don't know if they mated in the tunnel, and if she grabbed him straight after mating, once he's been got, there's no point in doing anything, what you gonna do? Rip the tunnel open to save him? His life mission is to pass his genes on, with the risk of being eaten, his mission was successful, but he got eaten, deal with it.
They are so adorable and such a surprising experience
Sorry but you guys lost me this video. For a channel that is all about ethics and being educated on reptile/ animal husbandry, this video does not reflect that. It just felt messy and chaotic. Like how do you NOT know how to breed spiders with the number of connections im sure you guys have. At least the basic preparations. AT LEAST. This video kinda shocked me, it took me back. I’m lowkey disappointed in you Emily and Ed because you guys know that your audience really believes you guys and your information and so for you to make such a video about tarantula breeding that is not entirely accurate and acceptable it sad. Please do better. 😓
Happy you guys got baby spiders though, wish you luck with them. ❤️
It was thier first time be patient
Next time ya pair ur ts of any species keep tabs on when the female molts because the closer u can get her paired to her molt less of a chance she molts out of the pairing has worked great for me so far
Would probably be a good idea to feed her a day or so beforehand too. XD
I watched a couple of T sling videos. Some keepers seem to take the eggsack out before they hatch so its easier to collect the spiderlings. (similar to how you take the eggs out of the snake habitats). (lol if my BF didn't hate spiders this would be tempting)
You guys made me be able to actually watch videos and look at pictures of spiders so thank you!
Great video! The babies are so cute!
Oh I absolutely adore this! The spiderlings are so cute!
I’d love to see a video showing the growth of these babies! It’s super fascinating to see!
Those lil baby setups are the cutest and I love baby spiders!
Congratulations to you and Shelob!
This is so neat. I have never seen baby Tarantula's. They are sooo cute.
These kind of videos really show us that the animals are well-cared for and feel safe in the zoo. I mean, I don't know how many videos of baby animals I've watched so far on your channel, it's incredible.
Unfortunately, as other people have noted, this is not actually a good video; it demonstrates a lot of bad practices in the tarantula breeding world.
@@khills Oh, didn't know that. Thanks for educating me.
@@khills True. However, Emily has requested advice, tips, and tricks to make the next go-round better. She stated it was their first time with tarantulas, and that they would hopefully be more knowledgeable for the next time. They own up to mistakes, are continuously learning to make things better, and are not afraid to ask when they don't know something. That, to me, still makes this one of the best channels out there.
@@warriormaiden9829 I normally feel that way about Emily and Ed, too, but the jokes they were making in this video about letting spiders die because they were unprepared were… really not great. Likewise, they let a spider be eaten to death, which is not a good way to go, adult jokes aside-and they did it because they were too busy.
In fact, that's been a theme for the last few months of videos. Emily and Ed have become too busy to DO properly. So eggs are rotting, spiders are being sacrificed - and it's all being presented as okay and something to monetize rather than something that is a problem to fix.
It's not a good trend for the channel.
@@khills That is a very good point. I'd been noticing that as well, but hadn't quite put two and two together like that. Hopefully they'll realize this, and do what they can to change this.
Emily, your excitement, joy and no problem admitting when you dont know something ( lol ) you just fill my heart with warmth!! Love to all!!
Loved the Monty Python reference! I'm glad the old man got one last hurrah on his way out. I also think him getting eaten was natural since it more than likely would've happened if they were in the wild. Nature happens! It's sad most people just don't get that the "inhumane risks" you take are actually very natural occurrences in the first place.
He died doing the one thing every male tarantula tries to do. I'd say he had a successful run
I remember when you were first building the snake discovery building I have been watching you since I was 6 I love you guys❤️❤️❤️
I'm glad your project was successful, but I hope you're open to a bit of constructive criticism? I am not a tarantula keeper myself, but even from watching the odd video on the internet, I could spot some easy beginner mistakes, like leaving the male in and more importantly, not removing the eggsac. Your surprise at their numbers surprised me, because ANY care guide/hatching video/hobby breeder could have let you known there would be a metric heckton of them. What I am also a little worried about was (and I hope someone can reassure me bc this is just my own train of thought) that there were a bunch of slings in a terrarium they could get out of, inside a building they could reasonably survive in. A public building, too. If one escapes and shows up in a few months as an adult, that could turn problematic?
I know everyone at Snake Discovery loves the animals dearly, and your snake breeding videos inspired me and some friends to breed our own hognoses (successfully)! Your set-ups and care-taking of sick snakes helped a lot, too. I got a snake loose from tape with your help. I found an escaped snake with your help. I'm just hoping that the next tarantula breeding will improve on the mistakes in this one.
I usually see a lot more soil in those baby vials, like 2 to 3 fourths full of soil.
U guys are amazing u have inspired me and my family to be a tarantula and reptile keeper so tysm!!
I love it when you guys make videos about your invertebrates please keep them coming🤗
OMGlob, that beautiful big egg sac! I was just playing this in the background, but then I looked when you looked and WOW! What a happy nifty exciting event!
I love seeing your tarantulas and your snakes as well.
She said you and your flashlight had to go, so she MOVED!! I'm so tickled about that.
🤣😂🤣
As someone terrified of spiders I shouldn’t be watching this before bed… but I love Snake Discovery so here I am
I would keep an eye in her has they can double clutch with the one pairing !! Congratulations on the little ones as well guys
I need to start raising/breeding taratulas so I'll have an answer to stupid questions about getting children. I could just say "I had so many babies last week!!" and annoying people would just beg me not to see the pictures.
Little teeny spiderlings are so fun to watch~
My worst nightmare. You are special people. Love your posts ❤
I have a new love of tarantulas due to this channel. I am so inlove with them and fascinated.
yes, give them more substrate. fill the vile about halfway up with substrate other then that the enclosure is pretty good
I'd like to preface this comment with saying I love snake discovery and most of the things they put out. I'm usually ecstatic to see every new video. However; I'm disappointed in this video if I'm being honest. It seemed like they weren't prepared at all. Plus making jokes about the babies left in the enclosure as them now being in a hunger games scenario (a very cruel triwisted game of kill or be killed). Idk, but it just seemed unsavory to me to say your just going to let the babies die cruelly because you had enough already. Being prepared for the amount of babies possible is a responsibility a breeder should take seriously. I get that there were a lot, but a quick google search can confirm that it is common to have this many at one time. I mean they would never do that with their garter snake babies for example. They empty the entire enclosure to make sure they get every last one of those. I was also not impressed with leaving the male in to die without being able to escape. At least in the wild they have a chance to escape the female, but in captivity without aid they have no chance at survival and it's just a matter if time. Again they wouldn't do that if it were a snake. I get that they are busy and they are "just spiders", but of breeder isn't fully prepared with knowledge, time, and effort then maybe it should have waited until they were actually ready to take on the task properly. They have such a large following that they need to set a good example as a lot of people will emulate their example.
I was disgusted and even more disgusted by that bit at the end! They were so lazy and used their excuse of "it's late" to not seperate them??! They totally weren't prepared for half of this stuff.
Really cool! Would love to see the progress on them.