*It DOES have remote start (three press and hold the lock button) gotta hold it for several seconds but it works. Sorry!* Hope you enjoyed the video! What do you think of the Avalon? Would you buy this over the others in the class...or even a fully loaded Camry/Accord/Mazda6?
Ive already seen quite a few of these Avalons in the road and they are actually nice looking in person. You can say that are definitely headturners with the sleek modern design.The grill actually makes them stand out.
Between this channel and Redline it's one of the best one's on youtube. I will be looking into the new 2020 Avalon when it comes out for sure. Think I'll run my current car to the ground and still get a good trade on it. Love Toyota's. That grill gives it luxury status and is amazing looking. Slick!
Wow Jonathan that means a lot! It’s a very impressive car and mike you said it’s really got luxury status. Can’t go wrong with a Toyota whatsoever. Thanks for the kind words and for watching, I appreciate it!
Ah thank you very much! Hopefully the channel keeps growing! Haven’t been at it a year yet...my goal was 10K subscribers in the first year...probably not gonna get that but hoping for quick growth next year!
BTW u do have remote start press the lock button once than twice and than on the third press hold it till the turn signals start blinking and than it will start
Thorough review, well done. I like how you go into great detail about the back up cam, 360 cam, ventilated seats, etc. Really hope you review the ES350/300H; would love to see your thoughts and how they compare.
That’s just Toyota being quirky. I have basically decided that silly decisions like this that make zero sense are basically just Toyota being quirky as it always has been worth design and feature choices.
Great review Nolan, you really do cover all the bases, and great to see Dave's appearance as he is one of my favorite reviewers. I just purchased an Avalon Limited and got a great deal. Got 7k off due to rebate and dealer discount, so $37 out the door which narrows the gap between an upper end Camry. I came out of 2015 ES and to me the price diff just wasn't worth it as Lexus isn't discounting much. All in all I am happy with my decision. Subscribed.
@@fpvflyer2615 On interior noise, I would say the Avalon is comparable to the Lexus. My ES was the luxury version, and I bought the Limited Avalon. Both had the lower profile tires, and the Lexus soaked up the bumps a little better. They are built on the exact same platform, with the exact same drivetrain. I believe the build quality is pretty much the same although the quality of the interior in the Lexus is I believe a bit better. The Avalon is missing a couple things that were included in the past models. There is no rain sensing wipers, or a power rear sunshade which both were pretty inconsequential to me. I do like the fact that the rear seatbacks fold down, and are heated in the upper trims because I live in OK, but travel to Houston quite frequently to visit family and have two small dog crates that go with me and that is handy for sure. For me, the Avalon has been a great road car. It gets great fuel mileage. I have not driven the current ES version so I cannot compare to that one. I have about 12K miles on the car with no issues whatsoever. I purchased mine in Jan 19 and I negotiated 7 grand off the sticker out the door at 37 grand. The ONE thing that I do miss and wish I had gotten is the 360 camera system with the front parking sensors. You have to be really careful when pulling up to curbs as the front end is low. So far I've not scuffed mine but you have to be vigilant and that would go for either car. I bought the ruby flair pearl with the carmel interior. It is a very striking color combo and I get lots of compliments on it. I wasn't crazy about the front end design at first but I've grown used to it now. Also, keep in mind the dealer experience isn't quite the same. Lexus offers service loaners, my Toyota dealer does not. But I usually schedule my service on a Sat morn and just wait for it to be done. Much better deals can be had on the Avalon. Sedans of course aren't nearly as popular as SUV's but I wasn't ready to jump on the SUV bandwagon just yet. Yes, I do believe Lexus success has a lot to do with the badge, but it just wasn't worth the difference to me. Before I leased the Lexus, I drove 3 E350 MB prior, but basically got priced out of those. I've been very happy with my Avalon. Would I buy it again? Yes, for the money I saved I sure would. I would be interested to know which route you take. Let me know Phillip
In the uae (Dubai) where I live, for some reason, Toyota decided it would be a great idea to remove remote start, perforated leather sides on the steering wheel, heated steering wheel, 360 camera, and we only get 2 trims, a se and a limited that’s it.
This is better then the Honda Accord. I believe this is the best non luxury badge car on the market The Camry has a few features that the accord doesn't have btw.
Yes I agree. It was quite impressive. Me personally, I wouldn’t spend the extra to get this over the Camry despite the Camry not having some of the features. It goes both ways with the Accord/Camry...pano roof, 360 are absent on Accord like Ventilated/memory seats and adaptive variable suspension are missing on the Camry. I love the naturally aspirated engines from Toyota though. I’ve seen your comments on a lot of videos and I appreciate you stopping by here! Thanks for watching!
It's better than basically any mainstream sedan available in my book, as a whole. (which makes me really want a loaded Touring so badly) Even though the Avalon and Accord aren't direct competitors (one's a full-size sedan, the other being a mid-size sedan), it's not a surprise that the Avalon is better, let alone the fact that it's in a higher league.
Love the look of this car, except for the grill. It’s ok, maybe a but overdone. I think the red color is nice, but I like the pearl white better. Overall I think Toyota did a good job updating the Avalon. The least one was too drab. Great video review man! 💯
Hopefully! I’ve asked for it...I’m sure I’ll get it just don’t know when. I’d go to my local Toyota dealer but they’ve turned me down 👎 As soon as I get it I’ll put a picture on Instagram
Prime Autotainment I saw one on the road the other day and I gotta say it looked pretty sweet. Recently sold my brother a 2017 SE, but this new one looks like a different breed.
Great review! I really like the styling of this new Avalon! Especially the more sporty Limited trim level that you reviewed here! I honestly would just take a top-of-the-line model of a Midsized Sedan (like the Accord or Mazda6). Rather than getting a mid-level Large Sedan (like this Avalon), but to each his own... As always, keep up the great work! You did a stellar job showing off the features and performance of this vehicle.
I own that exact Touring in red. The grill is large, though I’m used to it and like it now. It’s packed with technology and 300 hp. The subscription services are ridiculous and the Toyota app for remote start doesn’t work. That app should be free. Did you mention the wireless charger? Also, I only use CarPlay, because Entune 3.0 is horrible. Toyota should hire quality software developers. They don’t offer the pano roof on the Avalon, because they don’t want it to compete with the ES350. Both the EX350 and the Avalon sit on the same platform, the same exact engine, suspension and other dimensions.
You got yourself a nice ride! It really disappoints me that you have to pay the subscription...it’s a joke and shouldn’t be like that. Glad you think so too lol. Good thing it has carplay now... Good point on the Pano roof/Lexus. Always have to save a few things for the luxury brands. Thanks for sharing and enjoy your Avalon!
Prime Autotainment regarding the remote start app, it asks owners to register. Okay, no problem. I filled in all the requested information, including the long VIN etc.. Te app pops up a message, “great your car is registered.” Then another message pops up, “now you’re ready to add a car...you have no car registered.” I went through this process three times and gave up. Lastly, there’s a lot of tech on the car and it would be nice if Toyota had one knowledgeable person other than a salesman show buyers how to access and use the system. They should also help buyers download the app and go through the registration process. At least they’d see the app doesn’t work. Other car manufacturers don’t charge monthly or annually for these basic applications. I’ve always wanted a remote start, though not built into a damn app!
That would be great if they had a person to do that. I would think they would but no surprise. I actually know a guy who works for Lexus doing that exact thing. It’s a bummer it’s gotta be like that. I hope they change it eventually
I totally agree but they put a panoramic roof on the Camry to beat out the Accord. They should have done the same with Avalon and one reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2008 Avalon Limited. Plus I don’t want to spend the extra for the ES 350.
Great Review Man. I agree that they definitely decontented the Camry for this car. I really like the Camry XSE but it does not offer memory or cooled seats. But it offers the pano roof and a locking glove box. SMH. Also, the Avalon now appears to use the same lights for breaking and for turn signals. I don't care for that in the rear. I prefer separate amber turn signals.
Thank you very much! Yeah it would have been really nice if they put that stuff in the Camry too...oh well. Agreed on those points lol...it’s confusing. I was surprised to see that about the turn signals...it’s kind of odd not to have amber. Anyways, thanks again for watching and commenting!
Things Japanese cars good at right now. Toyota and Lexus-great reliability,and weird design. Honda and Acura- best fun to drive in front wheel layout. Mazda-best design, and great handling with luxury feel. Nissan and Infinity-best V6 engine with perfect layout in infinity models. Best at cost cutting in some Nissan models.
Great points! I like that layout you said. That fits the way I feel too...I don’t have the same experience with infinity as I do the others, but hoping to soon. Thanks again for watching and your input! 👍
First of all, you'll never have to pay full price...I got a fully loaded Touring with the Advanced Safety Package for just a bit over 40k. Had to negotiate with them for awhile but if you're tough you should be able to get at least 3k off MSRP. Second of all, even at full price, you get a (near) luxury vehicle that is substantially nicer (better materials, better sound isolation, better almost everything). There are many things that are built into Avalon that make it "flagship" quality. For example, did you know that it as a 60,000 btu HVAC system that cools the car almost instantly in crazy hot weather? Its ventilated seats are the best I've ever experienced. Honda's "ventilated" seats were useless. The stereo system is one of the best I've ever heard. The Accord sound system was dreadful - and I mean the "upgraded" one. If it was closer in price, it would completely steal all of Camry's sales. I drove the top of the line Camry and could not only see but also feel a big difference in quality, with the Avalon being better obviously.
Excellent points and I totally agree on the ventilated seats and A/C. They were above my expectations. Glad to hear you got a good deal on it and I hope you continue to to enjoy your Avalon. I appreciate your input and thanks for watching!
I bought my 06 accord V6 for 20K back in 2007 (slightly used) and that sounds same as this one when you press the pedal without any sound enhancements. This car not worth the money.
Nolan! Man, Did you see yourself in those jeans at 16 seconds into the review? It’s like right out of Magic Mike! Great Review as always! Avalon is becoming worthy of a test drive. It should have a Pano roof option. Can’t complain about the MPG and the Power combination.
Haha thanks Gene. Glad you liked the review! I was surprised by the no pano roof but I guess that’s how it goes when they have to stay “under Lexus”. Oh well. I enjoyed the V6 power too!
Prime Autotainment Hey Nolan, How many months have you been doing Prime? Setting a goal of 10K first year was aggressive but I think you’re growing at a good clip. Just keep doing what you’re doing and become a super TH-cam Star.
This is sexy but if you go for higher trim levels take a look at the lexus es. I think 27k is the most Id go for a sedan so I’d most likely go with the 2019 camry gas/hybrid or the 2019 accord hybrid
I was going to upgrade from my Buick Park Avenue to this car' but No Rain Sensor wipes?....even my Park Avenue has Rain Sensor wipers, heads up display etc...maybe I should just upgrade and buy a Lexus ES I LOVE MY RAIN SENSOR WIPERS!
Awesome Review! I have a 2007 Avalon and I was considering getting this one but the Camry is nice too lol tough decision 😓.. Does the rear suspension in this avalon have the same double wishbone as the Camry?
Thank you! Camry is definitely nice too. The Avalon is slightly different with more movement I believe with a multi link and some trims even have an adaptive variable suspension. It’s super smooth. Still though, the Camry drives very nice too! I have a ‘17 Camry SE and the new Camry handles better and rides smoother overall.
How can I mirror my iPhone to screen? And can I adjust the remote start so that the car stay on after I open the driver door? Hate how it just cuts off
Avalon > Any mainstream sedan that isn't wearing the luxury car badge, including the Accord, Mazda6, Camry, etc (even though they are in a smaller league) End of discussion.
Prime Autotainment I grew up in Lewisville. Bout 25 minutes north of DFW Airport. My dad is a Delta Pilot so we packed up and moved to ATL about 8 years ago. I sure do miss Texas haha! Subscribed for sure!! Keep up the good work
I know for sure it comes with the remote app connect that allows you to do remote start, also from a smart watch...but I’m not sure about whether that regulates the a/c or heat. The bummer though is that after the trial period...you have to pay a subscription to keep the remote start/app
Good question as I’m not sure...I know they don’t last like they used to. Fog over fairly quickly too. I’ve got a ‘17 Toyota and it’s not showing any ill effects yet but I’m sure it’s a matter of time. It’s usually garage kept which probably helps but it’s not very old either
On the Rav 4 limited and Avalon touring is the JBL sound system the same? Does Toyota put the same high quality speakers in all upgraded sound system in each Toyota vehicle?
The Avalon has 14 speaker 1200 watt setup and the Rav4 has 11 speakers and 576 watts. 12 channel amp on Avalon and 8 channel on Rav. As far as speaker quality...I’m not sure how much different they are...but the Avalon has a lot more power than any other Toyota JBL according to wattage...I think Camry/Highlander are next at 800 watt. It sounds fantastic...but I think all of the Toyota JBL systems sound nice
Prime Autotainment thanks for the quick response. I went to my local dealer in the states today and he has not been well educated on Toyota vehicles. Maybe you can help. I currently drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee (2014). I love it but really would like to find a little more gas friendly. I don't need a third row so that is why I am not looking at the Highlander. I was looking into the Rav 4. I know the hybrid model isn't out but was looking at the Limited. That is what I would get but in a hybrid. I was asking about settings. For example, does it have reverse tilt down mirrors, are the side mirrors darkened when headlights hit them, does it have easy exit where the seat moves back once the car is turned off, does it have an option of a panoramic sunroof, and does it have the same sound in all the vehicles? He didn't know any of that.😡. I really didn't want to go back to a car because I love sitting up and not feeling squeezed into a vehicle. However, I did like the Avalon. At first I was looking into the Touring model, due to its sporty ness. Then I saw where I could get a hybrid Limited with all the bells and whistles, even a heads-up display😄. I know the RAV4 is not in the same class as my Grand Cherokee but I felt the Avalon was, even though it's a car. I'm looking to buy within the next 6 months. It takes me forever. I plan on subscribing to your channel so I can get updates on different vehicles. Basically I'm looking for a SUV that has all the bells and whistles and great gas mileage. That is why I thought I would look into a hybrid.
No problem! And I was wrong about the JBL in the Rav...the wattage I said was for the 2018 model...2019 gets 800 watts 😁. Do you have a desired city or highway mileage you’re looking for? Either of the Rav or Avalon hybrids are really efficient. I haven’t been able to drive the new Rav4 but should be able to soon. The Avalon really impressed me and like you said..has all of the bells and whistles. You could look into the Lexus NX or RX Hybrid. As for the reverse tilt, dimming side mirrors and entry/exit sliding I’d have to look into that. I’m pretty sure a panoramic roof is available but not positive.
Prime Autotainment ......when I saw 42 mph for both city and highway, I was impressed. I get 20 City and 25 highway. That is great for a 4 wheel drive vehicle. When you check out cars, can you go into the settings and show the options that the vehicle can do, especially the RAV 4?. I know a lot of cars have special features like tilt down reverse mirrors or auto dimming side mirrors without showing it on the sticker or when building that vehicle. Anyway, thanks and can't wait to see your future drives.
The next couple videos coming out are already finished but not published..I usually don’t show a whole lot of the screen options but I’ll try to make sure I mention if those settings are available. I just looked and don’t see anything about reverse tilt/dimming side mirrors in the Rav...but I’ll try to find that out when I get one. There IS an option for a panoramic roof though. Have fun deciding too and hope the future videos are helpful 👍
Good review nolan .I do not know who will pay $ 5000-6000$ more to buy this avalon when you can buy a mazda 6 an honda accord or a toyota camry and save money.
Me. I test drove both the camry and accord and the avalon was in a much higher league. I actually went away thinking that the Avalon was a steal at 5k more. That's why I bought it.
777galamian thanks for sharing! I always love hearing what people think after being I. The vehicles themselves. I hope you continue to enjoy it, I know I did in the short time I had it. It should be a great car for a long time 👍
+Babs First and foremost, the Avalon offers plenty of luxury amenities at a bargain price. Most of which that aren't even offered in the Camry. (Memory seats, heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, rain-sensing wipers, heated steering wheel, Adaptive Full-LED headlights and taillights, progressive turn signals, Adaptive Variable Suspension, etc). It's overall more up-to-date, and luxurious feeling than its younger sibling, especially with its interior overall too. With additional premium touches like real Aluminum and Wood trim, which is unreal for Toyota. Secondly, it's quieter, smoother, yet feels faster, more stable and more playful around corners. Test drove both with my uncle, and I can safely say that the Avalon drove significantly better. Feeling a lot more stable around corners, with a much more isolated ride, yet sportier feel... the Avalon did feel faster in all honesty. While neither are sports sedans by any means, here's my verdict. Regardless, the new Camry still drove great, and much better than the prior generations did. The Avalon somehow actually felt faster, more eager to handle around and downshift, and felt overall more robust than the Camry when I tested out both with my uncle. It also felt a bit more eager and refined than the Accord, and livelier than the 6. Thirdly, I think the Avalon looks better too, and I overall think it'll age better too. The new Camry looks great for the most part, but the new Avalon to me looks more grown-up, mature, cohesive, sleeker (with the lower stance height) and a lot more elegant, with a lot more premium touches, both inside and out, without doing that much. And while the grille may not be for everyone, I think it works nicely with the overall sleek, dynamic, and modernly stylish design. With a mature, elegant, grown-up body with beautifully layed-out cohesive proportions, more premium touches, right amount of classy sculpting, and doing a great job to make it look beautiful without making it look boring, or doing too much. Surprisingly, even the non sporty variants (XLE and Limited) have the same compliment. It looks classy and modern without looking mundane, while the sporty versions (XSE and Touring) do a great job at adding some sporty touches (like the blacked-out rear spoiler, that is actually detailed) without trying too hard to be something it's not. It's honestly one of the best combinations of premium and sport I've ever seen on any modern vehicle thus far. Honestly, that's how I think designers who are designing a car that isn't meant to be sporty, look sporty, while successfully managing to back it up with the driving experience. And I know how big that grille was, I think it's sleek, well-sculpted, modern, cohesive, and actually looks quite fashionable yet somehow works well with the overall (already stylish) design. (It also looks better than the overstyled Accord, and stll handsome Mazda6) Fourth, the Avalon is significantly larger than the Camry, let alone a higher class vehicle. You're still paying for that superior interior room (that is even class-leading according to Toyota) and truck room. While the sloping roof-line does eat into headroom a little, I honestly had tons of it when I tested one in the flesh. Coming from someone who is around 6'2" as a matter of fact. And 37.9 in of rear headroom.. which is only 0.1 LESS than the Camry in rear-seat headroom, let alone the sloping roof-line paired with a lower height paying for that sexy styling, while besting its legroom by much, that's something to notice, and extra credit for the Avalon. There's in fact more to mention too.. (it actually even felt cavernous versus the Accord and 6) So it's up to people to decide whether they want to go for the Camry (or Accord, Mazda6, etc) or Avalon, but I think it's worth the upgrade personally. Both the new Camry and the new Avalon are great cars, but I think the Avalon is overall the better value, and is the best you can get from a car that's close to a luxury car. Especially with such a bargain price for what you get for the money. While the new Camry is an overall great car regardless (same for the Accord and Mazda6), and is a superb start for Toyota's new chapter of "ever-better cars" with Honda and Mazda also upping their game... the new Avalon was the one that blew me away when I tested it out in the flesh. Bottom-line, the Avalon is to me, the better value, and just the better car overall versus the three. Better styling, better ride and handling, better comfort, better luxury, better utility and practicality, better quality, better technology, better personality, better refinement, better/easier to live with, and so much more. Even in comparison to the Accord and 6 (and also the Nissan Maxima, which you guys love comparing it to the Camry and Accord while ironically ignoring the snug interior that car has, even for a "full-size" sedan). Despite a loaded Avalon isn't even that much more expensive (price-wise) versus a loaded Camry or Accord, or Mazda6, etc, it is still absolutely worth it. Although comparing the Avalon those cars, would be like comparing apples to oranges, because... the Avalon is in a higher league.. lol Avalon > Any mainstream sedan that isn't wearing the luxury car badge, including the Accord, Mazda6, Camry, etc (even though they are in a smaller league) (in fact, even versus some luxury cars too) End of discussion
Thanks so much for taking the time to share all of this. I appreciate your input especially after your own experience in each vehicle! When the Camry first came out...I was a little disappointed knowing it didn’t offer the things you mentioned like memory/ventilation seats etc, but once the Avalon came out I was expecting it to be in that, and pleased to see that it was. Same goes for interior materials...I like the Camry materials but yes the Avalon jumps up in that department. Overall...I was really comfortable and enjoyed this car! Thanks again
I know it’s a bummer. Should at least be offered. I read them say that “Today’s headlights are advanced enough to make foglights unnecessary” or something along those lines. But they still offer them in trucks/SUVs so I don’t get it. They’re still nice to have
@@PrimeAutotainment it's nice to know you have it there. For me, it is not about necessary or unnecessary. It's about looking better. The more, the better.😂
I have a 2013 limited that was for the most part the sport edition vs the touring. Why is the current touring trim a sport trim. I think of touring as a comfortable long distance ride. I understand the younger reviews will like the touring model. They mistaken also call it their highest trim. The Limited still is. Good luck with those 19" wheels. Tire wear, ride and new tire availability may be disappointing. Right now the available choices of 19" tires is limited.
I’m not sure why you’d buy this over the Camry XSE especially in the 2 tone white with red leather , its a way way better looking car & less expensive. The front end of this is absolutely hideous!!
I hear ya! There’s another thread where people are going back and forth between this and other cars lol. A couple things off the top of my head are Memory/ventilated seats, adaptive variable suspension..more backseat legroom compared to Camry but yea that Camry XSE is really nice and an excellent option. Thanks for the input!
I mean, why is the Avalon Touring even being compared to the Camry XSE? They aren't even in the same segment. Try again. But, if we are going to compare the Toyota Avalon to the Toyota Camry, that isn't even a comparison. The Avalon (across the board) is just better than the Camry. That is not debatable. The Avalon is just the better car, as always. Personally, I really like the Camry XSE, so don't come barking at me for being bias. The Avalon is in a MUCH higher league than the Camry. I can explain millions of reasons why the Avalon is still better than the Camry, as always. Let me know if you're ready to know why.
First and foremost, the Avalon offers plenty of luxury amenities at a bargain price. Most of which that aren't even offered in the Camry, and numerous being a first for Toyota. (Memory seats, heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, rain-sensing wipers, heated steering wheel, Adaptive Full-LED headlights and taillights, progressive turn signals, Adaptive Variable Suspension, power tilt-telescoping steering wheel, passenger power lumbar, etc). It's overall more up-to-date, and luxurious feeling than its younger sibling, especially with its interior overall too. With additional premium touches like real Aluminum and Wood trim, which is unreal for Toyota. Secondly, it's quieter, smoother, yet feels faster, more stable and more playful around corners. Test drove both with my uncle, and I can safely say that the Avalon drove significantly better. Feeling a lot more stable around corners, with a much more isolated ride, yet sportier feel... the Avalon did feel faster in all honesty. While neither are sports sedans by any means, here's my verdict. Regardless, the new Camry still drove great, and much better than the prior generations did. The Avalon somehow actually felt faster, more eager to handle around and downshift, and felt overall more robust than the Camry when I tested out both with my uncle. Thirdly, I think the Avalon looks better too, and I overall think it'll age better too. The new Camry looks great for the most part, but the new Avalon to me looks more grown-up, mature, cohesive, sleeker (with the lower stance height) and a lot more elegant, with a lot more premium touches, both inside and out, without doing that much. And while the grille may not be for everyone, I think it works nicely with the overall sleek, dynamic, and modernly stylish design. With a mature, elegant, grown-up body with beautifully layed-out cohesive proportions, more premium touches, right amount of classy sculpting, and doing a great job to make it look beautiful without making it look boring, or doing too much. Surprisingly, even the non sporty variants (XLE and Limited) have the same compliment. It looks classy and modern without looking mundane, while the sporty versions (XSE and Touring) do a great job at adding some sporty touches (like the blacked-out rear spoiler, that is actually detailed) without trying too hard to be something it's not. It's honestly one of the best combinations of premium and sport I've ever seen on any modern vehicle thus far. Honestly, that's how I think designers who are designing a car that isn't meant to be sporty, look sporty, while successfully managing to back it up with the driving experience. And I know how big that grille was, I think it's sleek, well-sculpted, modern, cohesive, and actually looks quite fashionable yet somehow works well with the overall (already stylish) design. (plus, I'm sure the grille will grow on you someday if you don't agree with me) Fourth, the Avalon is significantly larger than the Camry, let alone a higher class vehicle. You're still paying for that superior interior room (that is even class-leading according to Toyota) and truck room. While the sloping roof-line does eat into headroom a little, I honestly had tons of it when I tested one in the flesh. Coming from someone who is around 6'2" as a matter of fact. And 37.9 in of rear headroom.. which is only 0.1 LESS than the Camry in rear-seat headroom, let alone the sloping roof-line paired with a lower height paying for that sexy styling, while besting its legroom by much, that's something to notice, and extra credit for the Avalon. There's in fact more to mention too.. So it's up to people to decide whether they want to go for the Camry or Avalon (if you want a mid-size or full-size sedan), but I think it's worth the upgrade personally. Both the new Camry and the new Avalon are great cars, but I think the Avalon is overall the better value, and is the best you can get from a car that's close to a luxury car. Especially with such a bargain price for what you get for the money. While the new Camry is an overall great car regardless, and is a superb start for Toyota's new chapter of "ever-better cars"... the new Avalon was the one that blew me away when I tested it out in the flesh. Bottom-line, the Avalon is to me, the better value, and just the better car overall versus the Camry. Better styling, better ride and handling, better comfort, better luxury, better utility and practicality, better quality, better technology, better personality, better refinement, better/easier to live with, and so much more. Even in comparison to the Accord and 6 (and also the Nissan Maxima, which you guys love comparing it to the Camry and Accord while ironically ignoring the snug interior that car has, even for a "full-size" sedan). Despite a loaded Avalon isn't even that much more expensive (price-wise) versus a loaded Camry Accord, Mazda6, etc, it is still absolutely worth it. Although comparing the Avalon those cars, would be like comparing apples to oranges, because... the Avalon is in a higher league.. lol Get it through your thick skull everyone, the Avalon and Camry aren't the same thing, and aren't even comparable. Try again. The Avalon is in the full-size sedan segment, and is in a much higher league. While the Camry XSE actually gets expensive quickly with options (especially many of them found in the Avalon and not here), the Avalon is the bargain overall. At the end of it all, the roughly 5K-6K extra of the new Avalon, depending on packaging, is worth it. Avalon > Any mainstream sedan that isn't wearing the luxury car badge, including the Accord, Mazda6, Camry, etc (even though they are in a smaller league) (in fact, even versus some luxury cars too) End of discussion.
40+k toyota, might as well get a lexus at that price point. I'd buy one, lightly used & certified...lower price and extended warranty to boot. Nice car though, less the polarizing grill.
Funny, man bun 😂😂, just say it girly hair bump 🙀. Avalon is a great car ! For 10k more you can get exactly the same car with the Lexus name on it, oh it does have some interior upgrades for that🤔 uh, NO.
What's with all the fake egg crate-looking plastic on the front end. This overall front end change to sportiness reminds me of an 85 year old man wearing black running tights and track shoes so he looks more like an athlete. This thing needs a ground-up redesign. Oh, also it has a big butt..too much junk in the trunk.
The front grill, like the Lexus, is just off putting. Looks like Toyota hired the styling guy who did the Pontiac Aztec to design the grill. UGLY FROM ANY ANGLE!
*It DOES have remote start (three press and hold the lock button) gotta hold it for several seconds but it works. Sorry!*
Hope you enjoyed the video! What do you think of the Avalon? Would you buy this over the others in the class...or even a fully loaded Camry/Accord/Mazda6?
1. Almost the perfect sedan.
2. Hell yeah. No regrets.
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@@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947 This car is better than the (stupid) Skoda Superb, isn't it?
Is it raid smoother then the Toyota Camry?
You definitely use the word "definitely" too much. 🙉
Ive already seen quite a few of these Avalons in the road and they are actually nice looking in person. You can say that are definitely headturners with the sleek modern design.The grill actually makes them stand out.
Great review~ I was leaning towards an Avalon, now I am sold!
It’s an awesome car and you can’t go wrong with it, thanks for watching!
Between this channel and Redline it's one of the best one's on youtube. I will be looking into the new 2020 Avalon when it comes out for sure. Think I'll run my current car to the ground and still get a good trade on it. Love Toyota's. That grill gives it luxury status and is amazing looking. Slick!
Wow Jonathan that means a lot! It’s a very impressive car and mike you said it’s really got luxury status. Can’t go wrong with a Toyota whatsoever. Thanks for the kind words and for watching, I appreciate it!
Another beast review. Whys this guy so underrated
Ah thank you very much! Hopefully the channel keeps growing! Haven’t been at it a year yet...my goal was 10K subscribers in the first year...probably not gonna get that but hoping for quick growth next year!
Great video! Toyota has really stepped up there game. Though in my opinion the grill isn't that bad but it think it should be smaller.
Thanks Jared! They sure have. I like what they’re doing. I agree lol, it’s very unique
Thanks for the video
I think it looks fantastic, and admittedly I'm normally a Toyota hater. No way you would look at that and think it's just another "old man's" car.
BTW u do have remote start press the lock button once than twice and than on the third press hold it till the turn signals start blinking and than it will start
Thank you! Sorry I wrongly said otherwise.
@@PrimeAutotainment no worries idk why they hide it so much but yeah its there
The thumbs down is for the video, not the car.
Nobody sees your thumbs down..but thanks for announcing it lol
Thorough review, well done. I like how you go into great detail about the back up cam, 360 cam, ventilated seats, etc. Really hope you review the ES350/300H; would love to see your thoughts and how they compare.
Thank you very much! Glad you liked it. I hope I get to. Lexus might approve that for me..fingers crossed!
Why don’t they make an avalon with panoramic sun roof
That’s just Toyota being quirky. I have basically decided that silly decisions like this that make zero sense are basically just Toyota being quirky as it always has been worth design and feature choices.
So you have to buy a Lexus.
They're not going to hurt Lexus sales.
This guys definitely loves the word definitely
Great review, Nolan. Very thorough and informative. Keep up the good work. Also, nice to see you collaborate with Dave on your reviews.
Thank you! Dave’s awesome and I’m glad he’s willing to work with me 👍. I appreciate your support!
Great review Nolan, you really do cover all the bases, and great to see Dave's appearance as he is one of my favorite reviewers. I just purchased an Avalon Limited and got a great deal. Got 7k off due to rebate and dealer discount, so $37 out the door which narrows the gap between an upper end Camry. I came out of 2015 ES and to me the price diff just wasn't worth it as Lexus isn't discounting much. All in all I am happy with my decision. Subscribed.
Thank you very much! Sounds like you got a great deal and that limited trim is very plush. Glad to hear it and thanks for the sub! 😁
@@fpvflyer2615 On interior noise, I would say the Avalon is comparable to the Lexus. My ES was the luxury version, and I bought the Limited Avalon. Both had the lower profile tires, and the Lexus soaked up the bumps a little better. They are built on the exact same platform, with the exact same drivetrain. I believe the build quality is pretty much the same although the quality of the interior in the Lexus is I believe a bit better. The Avalon is missing a couple things that were included in the past models. There is no rain sensing wipers, or a power rear sunshade which both were pretty inconsequential to me. I do like the fact that the rear seatbacks fold down, and are heated in the upper trims because I live in OK, but travel to Houston quite frequently to visit family and have two small dog crates that go with me and that is handy for sure. For me, the Avalon has been a great road car. It gets great fuel mileage. I have not driven the current ES version so I cannot compare to that one. I have about 12K miles on the car with no issues whatsoever. I purchased mine in Jan 19 and I negotiated 7 grand off the sticker out the door at 37 grand. The ONE thing that I do miss and wish I had gotten is the 360 camera system with the front parking sensors. You have to be really careful when pulling up to curbs as the front end is low. So far I've not scuffed mine but you have to be vigilant and that would go for either car. I bought the ruby flair pearl with the carmel interior. It is a very striking color combo and I get lots of compliments on it. I wasn't crazy about the front end design at first but I've grown used to it now. Also, keep in mind the dealer experience isn't quite the same. Lexus offers service loaners, my Toyota dealer does not. But I usually schedule my service on a Sat morn and just wait for it to be done. Much better deals can be had on the Avalon. Sedans of course aren't nearly as popular as SUV's but I wasn't ready to jump on the SUV bandwagon just yet. Yes, I do believe Lexus success has a lot to do with the badge, but it just wasn't worth the difference to me. Before I leased the Lexus, I drove 3 E350 MB prior, but basically got priced out of those. I've been very happy with my Avalon. Would I buy it again? Yes, for the money I saved I sure would. I would be interested to know which route you take. Let me know Phillip
In the uae (Dubai) where I live, for some reason, Toyota decided it would be a great idea to remove remote start, perforated leather sides on the steering wheel, heated steering wheel, 360 camera, and we only get 2 trims, a se and a limited that’s it.
One of my favourites
This is better then the Honda Accord. I believe this is the best non luxury badge car on the market
The Camry has a few features that the accord doesn't have btw.
Yes I agree. It was quite impressive. Me personally, I wouldn’t spend the extra to get this over the Camry despite the Camry not having some of the features. It goes both ways with the Accord/Camry...pano roof, 360 are absent on Accord like Ventilated/memory seats and adaptive variable suspension are missing on the Camry.
I love the naturally aspirated engines from Toyota though. I’ve seen your comments on a lot of videos and I appreciate you stopping by here! Thanks for watching!
Also...I just got done with the Lexus LC 500 if you’re interested 👍
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It's better than basically any mainstream sedan available in my book, as a whole. (which makes me really want a loaded Touring so badly)
Even though the Avalon and Accord aren't direct competitors (one's a full-size sedan, the other being a mid-size sedan), it's not a surprise that the Avalon is better, let alone the fact that it's in a higher league.
Surprised they didn’t put the sport tuned exhaust on the Camry, great review!
No kidding, that would be awesome! Thank you! 👍
This has a better interior than a Chrysler 300!!
300 is trash. And so is all other Chrysler shit
Love the look of this car, except for the grill. It’s ok, maybe a but overdone. I think the red color is nice, but I like the pearl white better. Overall I think Toyota did a good job updating the Avalon. The least one was too drab. Great video review man! 💯
Thanks man! Agreed on the pearl white color too. I’m happy to see them give this one some new flair cuz yeah that last one was bland lol
Prime Autotainment Any plans to review the new Corolla hatchback?
Hopefully! I’ve asked for it...I’m sure I’ll get it just don’t know when. I’d go to my local Toyota dealer but they’ve turned me down 👎
As soon as I get it I’ll put a picture on Instagram
Prime Autotainment I saw one on the road the other day and I gotta say it looked pretty sweet. Recently sold my brother a 2017 SE, but this new one looks like a different breed.
I agree completely. I’m excited to check it out and it should handle/drive like a different breed too!
Great review! I really like the styling of this new Avalon! Especially the more sporty Limited trim level that you reviewed here!
I honestly would just take a top-of-the-line model of a Midsized Sedan (like the Accord or Mazda6). Rather than getting a mid-level Large Sedan (like this Avalon), but to each his own...
As always, keep up the great work! You did a stellar job showing off the features and performance of this vehicle.
Thank you very much! I agree with you, that’s what I’d get. For the money..seems like a better value to get one if those.
Appreciate the support!
@@PrimeAutotainment, No problem!
I test drove the top of the line accord and mazda and the avalon is in a different league as far as quality/fit 'n finish.
The Avalon is in a higher league overall.
I own that exact Touring in red. The grill is large, though I’m used to it and like it now. It’s packed with technology and 300 hp. The subscription services are ridiculous and the Toyota app for remote start doesn’t work. That app should be free. Did you mention the wireless charger? Also, I only use CarPlay, because Entune 3.0 is horrible. Toyota should hire quality software developers. They don’t offer the pano roof on the Avalon, because they don’t want it to compete with the ES350. Both the EX350 and the Avalon sit on the same platform, the same exact engine, suspension and other dimensions.
You got yourself a nice ride! It really disappoints me that you have to pay the subscription...it’s a joke and shouldn’t be like that. Glad you think so too lol.
Good thing it has carplay now...
Good point on the Pano roof/Lexus. Always have to save a few things for the luxury brands. Thanks for sharing and enjoy your Avalon!
Prime Autotainment regarding the remote start app, it asks owners to register. Okay, no problem. I filled in all the requested information, including the long VIN etc.. Te app pops up a message, “great your car is registered.” Then another message pops up, “now you’re ready to add a car...you have no car registered.” I went through this process three times and gave up.
Lastly, there’s a lot of tech on the car and it would be nice if Toyota had one knowledgeable person other than a salesman show buyers how to access and use the system. They should also help buyers download the app and go through the registration process. At least they’d see the app doesn’t work. Other car manufacturers don’t charge monthly or annually for these basic applications. I’ve always wanted a remote start, though not built into a damn app!
That would be great if they had a person to do that. I would think they would but no surprise. I actually know a guy who works for Lexus doing that exact thing. It’s a bummer it’s gotta be like that. I hope they change it eventually
I totally agree but they put a panoramic roof on the Camry to beat out the Accord. They should have done the same with Avalon and one reason why I haven’t upgraded my 2008 Avalon Limited. Plus I don’t want to spend the extra for the ES 350.
Great Review Man. I agree that they definitely decontented the Camry for this car. I really like the Camry XSE but it does not offer memory or cooled seats. But it offers the pano roof and a locking glove box. SMH. Also, the Avalon now appears to use the same lights for breaking and for turn signals. I don't care for that in the rear. I prefer separate amber turn signals.
Thank you very much! Yeah it would have been really nice if they put that stuff in the Camry too...oh well. Agreed on those points lol...it’s confusing.
I was surprised to see that about the turn signals...it’s kind of odd not to have amber. Anyways, thanks again for watching and commenting!
canonlybeme4life No Toyota sedan has cooled seats. The Avalon has ventilated seats and now the Camry has this feature.
Things Japanese cars good at right now.
Toyota and Lexus-great reliability,and weird design.
Honda and Acura- best fun to drive in front wheel layout.
Mazda-best design, and great handling with luxury feel.
Nissan and Infinity-best V6 engine with perfect layout in infinity models. Best at cost cutting in some Nissan models.
Great points! I like that layout you said. That fits the way I feel too...I don’t have the same experience with infinity as I do the others, but hoping to soon. Thanks again for watching and your input! 👍
imo nissan is fake Japanese, yes cheaper, but the least reliable. i recommend the first 3 options only.
Great review! I don’t mind the design at all, however $44k does seem a bit excessive for this vehicle.
Thank you! I feel the same and wouldn’t want to pay that much for this. I’m surprised it was that steep. Thanks for watching!
First of all, you'll never have to pay full price...I got a fully loaded Touring with the Advanced Safety Package for just a bit over 40k. Had to negotiate with them for awhile but if you're tough you should be able to get at least 3k off MSRP. Second of all, even at full price, you get a (near) luxury vehicle that is substantially nicer (better materials, better sound isolation, better almost everything). There are many things that are built into Avalon that make it "flagship" quality. For example, did you know that it as a 60,000 btu HVAC system that cools the car almost instantly in crazy hot weather? Its ventilated seats are the best I've ever experienced. Honda's "ventilated" seats were useless. The stereo system is one of the best I've ever heard. The Accord sound system was dreadful - and I mean the "upgraded" one. If it was closer in price, it would completely steal all of Camry's sales. I drove the top of the line Camry and could not only see but also feel a big difference in quality, with the Avalon being better obviously.
Excellent points and I totally agree on the ventilated seats and A/C. They were above my expectations. Glad to hear you got a good deal on it and I hope you continue to to enjoy your Avalon. I appreciate your input and thanks for watching!
I bought my 06 accord V6 for 20K back in 2007 (slightly used) and that sounds same as this one when you press the pedal without any sound enhancements. This car not worth the money.
Brian Gee
My 2020 Touring
MSRP About $45k
Paid about $37,750.
I have my 2016 Hyundai Equus coming to a close, and I've just added the Avalon Touring to my list to check out
I was really impressed with it! For non luxury brand cars, this thing is among the best. What else are you considering?
Quality video bro ❤❤
Nolan! Man, Did you see yourself in those jeans at 16 seconds into the review? It’s like right out of Magic Mike! Great Review as always! Avalon is becoming worthy of a test drive. It should have a Pano roof option. Can’t complain about the MPG and the Power combination.
Haha thanks Gene. Glad you liked the review! I was surprised by the no pano roof but I guess that’s how it goes when they have to stay “under Lexus”. Oh well. I enjoyed the V6 power too!
Prime Autotainment Hey Nolan, How many months have you been doing Prime? Setting a goal of 10K first year was aggressive but I think you’re growing at a good clip. Just keep doing what you’re doing and become a super TH-cam Star.
gene978 thanks! My first video was Thanksgiving if last year (2017) and I kind of got into a routine the beginning of this year with regular videos
I like everything about this car including the grill. Full disclosure: I'm 80 yo ( sorry Toyota, there goes your demographic).
Joe that’s awesome. Thanks for sharing and watching!
Lets all boycott the gloss black infotainment systems and other interior accent pieces
This is sexy but if you go for higher trim levels take a look at the lexus es. I think 27k is the most Id go for a sedan so I’d most likely go with the 2019 camry gas/hybrid or the 2019 accord hybrid
Remote start should be free! using your remote... nice car!
Familyman247 agreed!
I was going to upgrade from my Buick Park Avenue to this car' but No Rain Sensor wipes?....even my Park Avenue has Rain Sensor wipers, heads up display etc...maybe I should just upgrade and buy a Lexus ES
I LOVE MY RAIN SENSOR WIPERS!
Awesome Review! I have a 2007 Avalon and I was considering getting this one but the Camry is nice too lol tough decision 😓.. Does the rear suspension in this avalon have the same double wishbone as the Camry?
Thank you! Camry is definitely nice too. The Avalon is slightly different with more movement I believe with a multi link and some trims even have an adaptive variable suspension. It’s super smooth.
Still though, the Camry drives very nice too! I have a ‘17 Camry SE and the new Camry handles better and rides smoother overall.
Nice car but need panorama sunroof
That's exclusive to Lexus.
I guess cars will now be moving onto the 1 piece long taillight unit trend?....
How can I mirror my iPhone to screen? And can I adjust the remote start so that the car stay on after I open the driver door? Hate how it just cuts off
Avalon > Any mainstream sedan that isn't wearing the luxury car badge, including the Accord, Mazda6, Camry, etc (even though they are in a smaller league)
End of discussion.
The new top trim avalon beats most 5 series since it will now have awd.
I would like to know what you think of the 2020 Avalon from what you have seen?
I knew just by looking in the area that you live in Texas! I’m from the Dallas area and I miss it 😭
Very nice haha, good eye. I’m about 30 minutes east of Dallas. You come come back then!
Prime Autotainment I grew up in Lewisville. Bout 25 minutes north of DFW Airport. My dad is a Delta Pilot so we packed up and moved to ATL about 8 years ago. I sure do miss Texas haha! Subscribed for sure!! Keep up the good work
Oh wow, small world. ATL seems cool though..I’m a braves fan (and Rangers are #2) lol. I appreciate that, thank you!
Cool video.
Thanks!
Does this model of Avalon come with remote start , or / App to start car, regulate heating cooling features ?
I know for sure it comes with the remote app connect that allows you to do remote start, also from a smart watch...but I’m not sure about whether that regulates the a/c or heat. The bummer though is that after the trial period...you have to pay a subscription to keep the remote start/app
I’m confused 😐, so did the key fob work far away ? I couldn’t tell !
Sorry, yes it did 👍
Can you or Toyota answer to why tue new lights show the spidering or older lights? How often do light plastic need be refinished
Good question as I’m not sure...I know they don’t last like they used to. Fog over fairly quickly too. I’ve got a ‘17 Toyota and it’s not showing any ill effects yet but I’m sure it’s a matter of time. It’s usually garage kept which probably helps but it’s not very old either
go bold or go HOME 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
On the Rav 4 limited and Avalon touring is the JBL sound system the same? Does Toyota put the same high quality speakers in all upgraded sound system in each Toyota vehicle?
The Avalon has 14 speaker 1200 watt setup and the Rav4 has 11 speakers and 576 watts.
12 channel amp on Avalon and 8 channel on Rav. As far as speaker quality...I’m not sure how much different they are...but the Avalon has a lot more power than any other Toyota JBL according to wattage...I think Camry/Highlander are next at 800 watt.
It sounds fantastic...but I think all of the Toyota JBL systems sound nice
Prime Autotainment thanks for the quick response. I went to my local dealer in the states today and he has not been well educated on Toyota vehicles. Maybe you can help. I currently drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee (2014). I love it but really would like to find a little more gas friendly. I don't need a third row so that is why I am not looking at the Highlander. I was looking into the Rav 4. I know the hybrid model isn't out but was looking at the Limited. That is what I would get but in a hybrid. I was asking about settings. For example, does it have reverse tilt down mirrors, are the side mirrors darkened when headlights hit them, does it have easy exit where the seat moves back once the car is turned off, does it have an option of a panoramic sunroof, and does it have the same sound in all the vehicles? He didn't know any of that.😡. I really didn't want to go back to a car because I love sitting up and not feeling squeezed into a vehicle. However, I did like the Avalon. At first I was looking into the Touring model, due to its sporty ness. Then I saw where I could get a hybrid Limited with all the bells and whistles, even a heads-up display😄. I know the RAV4 is not in the same class as my Grand Cherokee but I felt the Avalon was, even though it's a car. I'm looking to buy within the next 6 months. It takes me forever. I plan on subscribing to your channel so I can get updates on different vehicles. Basically I'm looking for a SUV that has all the bells and whistles and great gas mileage. That is why I thought I would look into a hybrid.
No problem! And I was wrong about the JBL in the Rav...the wattage I said was for the 2018 model...2019 gets 800 watts 😁. Do you have a desired city or highway mileage you’re looking for? Either of the Rav or Avalon hybrids are really efficient. I haven’t been able to drive the new Rav4 but should be able to soon. The Avalon really impressed me and like you said..has all of the bells and whistles. You could look into the Lexus NX or RX Hybrid. As for the reverse tilt, dimming side mirrors and entry/exit sliding I’d have to look into that. I’m pretty sure a panoramic roof is available but not positive.
Prime Autotainment ......when I saw 42 mph for both city and highway, I was impressed. I get 20 City and 25 highway. That is great for a 4 wheel drive vehicle. When you check out cars, can you go into the settings and show the options that the vehicle can do, especially the RAV 4?. I know a lot of cars have special features like tilt down reverse mirrors or auto dimming side mirrors without showing it on the sticker or when building that vehicle. Anyway, thanks and can't wait to see your future drives.
The next couple videos coming out are already finished but not published..I usually don’t show a whole lot of the screen options but I’ll try to make sure I mention if those settings are available. I just looked and don’t see anything about reverse tilt/dimming side mirrors in the Rav...but I’ll try to find that out when I get one. There IS an option for a panoramic roof though. Have fun deciding too and hope the future videos are helpful 👍
Very nice looking car
Good review nolan .I do not know who will pay $ 5000-6000$ more to buy this avalon when you can buy a mazda 6 an honda accord or a toyota camry and save money.
Thank you! I completely agree. That’s what I was thinking pretty much the whole time I had it
Me. I test drove both the camry and accord and the avalon was in a much higher league. I actually went away thinking that the Avalon was a steal at 5k more. That's why I bought it.
777galamian thanks for sharing! I always love hearing what people think after being I. The vehicles themselves. I hope you continue to enjoy it, I know I did in the short time I had it. It should be a great car for a long time 👍
+Babs First and foremost, the Avalon offers plenty of luxury amenities at a bargain price. Most of which that aren't even offered in the Camry. (Memory seats, heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, rain-sensing wipers, heated steering wheel, Adaptive Full-LED headlights and taillights, progressive turn signals, Adaptive Variable Suspension, etc). It's overall more up-to-date, and luxurious feeling than its younger sibling, especially with its interior overall too. With additional premium touches like real Aluminum and Wood trim, which is unreal for Toyota.
Secondly, it's quieter, smoother, yet feels faster, more stable and more playful around corners. Test drove both with my uncle, and I can safely say that the Avalon drove significantly better. Feeling a lot more stable around corners, with a much more isolated ride, yet sportier feel... the Avalon did feel faster in all honesty. While neither are sports sedans by any means, here's my verdict. Regardless, the new Camry still drove great, and much better than the prior generations did. The Avalon somehow actually felt faster, more eager to handle around and downshift, and felt overall more robust than the Camry when I tested out both with my uncle. It also felt a bit more eager and refined than the Accord, and livelier than the 6.
Thirdly, I think the Avalon looks better too, and I overall think it'll age better too. The new Camry looks great for the most part, but the new Avalon to me looks more grown-up, mature, cohesive, sleeker (with the lower stance height) and a lot more elegant, with a lot more premium touches, both inside and out, without doing that much. And while the grille may not be for everyone, I think it works nicely with the overall sleek, dynamic, and modernly stylish design. With a mature, elegant, grown-up body with beautifully layed-out cohesive proportions, more premium touches, right amount of classy sculpting, and doing a great job to make it look beautiful without making it look boring, or doing too much. Surprisingly, even the non sporty variants (XLE and Limited) have the same compliment. It looks classy and modern without looking mundane, while the sporty versions (XSE and Touring) do a great job at adding some sporty touches (like the blacked-out rear spoiler, that is actually detailed) without trying too hard to be something it's not. It's honestly one of the best combinations of premium and sport I've ever seen on any modern vehicle thus far. Honestly, that's how I think designers who are designing a car that isn't meant to be sporty, look sporty, while successfully managing to back it up with the driving experience. And I know how big that grille was, I think it's sleek, well-sculpted, modern, cohesive, and actually looks quite fashionable yet somehow works well with the overall (already stylish) design. (It also looks better than the overstyled Accord, and stll handsome Mazda6)
Fourth, the Avalon is significantly larger than the Camry, let alone a higher class vehicle. You're still paying for that superior interior room (that is even class-leading according to Toyota) and truck room. While the sloping roof-line does eat into headroom a little, I honestly had tons of it when I tested one in the flesh. Coming from someone who is around 6'2" as a matter of fact. And 37.9 in of rear headroom.. which is only 0.1 LESS than the Camry in rear-seat headroom, let alone the sloping roof-line paired with a lower height paying for that sexy styling, while besting its legroom by much, that's something to notice, and extra credit for the Avalon. There's in fact more to mention too.. (it actually even felt cavernous versus the Accord and 6)
So it's up to people to decide whether they want to go for the Camry (or Accord, Mazda6, etc) or Avalon, but I think it's worth the upgrade personally. Both the new Camry and the new Avalon are great cars, but I think the Avalon is overall the better value, and is the best you can get from a car that's close to a luxury car. Especially with such a bargain price for what you get for the money.
While the new Camry is an overall great car regardless (same for the Accord and Mazda6), and is a superb start for Toyota's new chapter of "ever-better cars" with Honda and Mazda also upping their game... the new Avalon was the one that blew me away when I tested it out in the flesh.
Bottom-line, the Avalon is to me, the better value, and just the better car overall versus the three. Better styling, better ride and handling, better comfort, better luxury, better utility and practicality, better quality, better technology, better personality, better refinement, better/easier to live with, and so much more. Even in comparison to the Accord and 6 (and also the Nissan Maxima, which you guys love comparing it to the Camry and Accord while ironically ignoring the snug interior that car has, even for a "full-size" sedan). Despite a loaded Avalon isn't even that much more expensive (price-wise) versus a loaded Camry or Accord, or Mazda6, etc, it is still absolutely worth it. Although comparing the Avalon those cars, would be like comparing apples to oranges, because... the Avalon is in a higher league.. lol
Avalon > Any mainstream sedan that isn't wearing the luxury car badge, including the Accord, Mazda6, Camry, etc (even though they are in a smaller league) (in fact, even versus some luxury cars too)
End of discussion
Thanks so much for taking the time to share all of this. I appreciate your input especially after your own experience in each vehicle! When the Camry first came out...I was a little disappointed knowing it didn’t offer the things you mentioned like memory/ventilation seats etc, but once the Avalon came out I was expecting it to be in that, and pleased to see that it was. Same goes for interior materials...I like the Camry materials but yes the Avalon jumps up in that department. Overall...I was really comfortable and enjoyed this car! Thanks again
Need fog light since this is more expensive than Camry or Corolla... the most expensive one but you can't even get the fog light ? That's not good
I know it’s a bummer. Should at least be offered. I read them say that “Today’s headlights are advanced enough to make foglights unnecessary” or something along those lines. But they still offer them in trucks/SUVs so I don’t get it. They’re still nice to have
@@PrimeAutotainment it's nice to know you have it there. For me, it is not about necessary or unnecessary. It's about looking better. The more, the better.😂
I agree with you lol. Hopefully they bring them back sometime...I guess we will see. Thanks for watching!
Are the mirrors power folding?
Sutton Griffin no there not I with they were though 🙂
I have a 2013 limited that was for the most part the sport edition vs the touring. Why is the current touring trim a sport trim. I think of touring as a comfortable long distance ride.
I understand the younger reviews will like the touring model. They mistaken also call it their highest trim. The Limited still is.
Good luck with those 19" wheels. Tire wear, ride and new tire availability may be disappointing. Right now the available choices of 19" tires is limited.
I thought it was odd they made the Touring like it is. Good point. How do you like your 2013 Limited?
I like it 👌
reminds me of the acura tlx
I think it looks pretty awesome.....except for that dang grille. Come on Toyota. Smaller would've been better, IMO.
I know lol it’s a wild grille. Just like you, I like the rest of it quite a bit!
Why the big black snow plow-cheese grater-security fence on the front?
Lol yeah I hear ya. It’s pretty wild. I was surprised to see how big it was
Good one
I’m not sure why you’d buy this over the Camry XSE especially in the 2 tone white with red leather , its a way way better looking car & less expensive. The front end of this is absolutely hideous!!
I hear ya! There’s another thread where people are going back and forth between this and other cars lol. A couple things off the top of my head are Memory/ventilated seats, adaptive variable suspension..more backseat legroom compared to Camry but yea that Camry XSE is really nice and an excellent option. Thanks for the input!
The Avalon is in a MUCH higher league than the Camry. I can explain millions of reasons why the Avalon is still better than the Camry, as always.
I mean, why is the Avalon Touring even being compared to the Camry XSE? They aren't even in the same segment. Try again. But, if we are going to compare the Toyota Avalon to the Toyota Camry, that isn't even a comparison. The Avalon (across the board) is just better than the Camry. That is not debatable. The Avalon is just the better car, as always. Personally, I really like the Camry XSE, so don't come barking at me for being bias.
The Avalon is in a MUCH higher league than the Camry. I can explain millions of reasons why the Avalon is still better than the Camry, as always. Let me know if you're ready to know why.
First and foremost, the Avalon offers plenty of luxury amenities at a bargain price. Most of which that aren't even offered in the Camry, and numerous being a first for Toyota. (Memory seats, heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, rain-sensing wipers, heated steering wheel, Adaptive Full-LED headlights and taillights, progressive turn signals, Adaptive Variable Suspension, power tilt-telescoping steering wheel, passenger power lumbar, etc). It's overall more up-to-date, and luxurious feeling than its younger sibling, especially with its interior overall too. With additional premium touches like real Aluminum and Wood trim, which is unreal for Toyota.
Secondly, it's quieter, smoother, yet feels faster, more stable and more playful around corners. Test drove both with my uncle, and I can safely say that the Avalon drove significantly better. Feeling a lot more stable around corners, with a much more isolated ride, yet sportier feel... the Avalon did feel faster in all honesty. While neither are sports sedans by any means, here's my verdict. Regardless, the new Camry still drove great, and much better than the prior generations did. The Avalon somehow actually felt faster, more eager to handle around and downshift, and felt overall more robust than the Camry when I tested out both with my uncle.
Thirdly, I think the Avalon looks better too, and I overall think it'll age better too. The new Camry looks great for the most part, but the new Avalon to me looks more grown-up, mature, cohesive, sleeker (with the lower stance height) and a lot more elegant, with a lot more premium touches, both inside and out, without doing that much. And while the grille may not be for everyone, I think it works nicely with the overall sleek, dynamic, and modernly stylish design. With a mature, elegant, grown-up body with beautifully layed-out cohesive proportions, more premium touches, right amount of classy sculpting, and doing a great job to make it look beautiful without making it look boring, or doing too much. Surprisingly, even the non sporty variants (XLE and Limited) have the same compliment. It looks classy and modern without looking mundane, while the sporty versions (XSE and Touring) do a great job at adding some sporty touches (like the blacked-out rear spoiler, that is actually detailed) without trying too hard to be something it's not. It's honestly one of the best combinations of premium and sport I've ever seen on any modern vehicle thus far. Honestly, that's how I think designers who are designing a car that isn't meant to be sporty, look sporty, while successfully managing to back it up with the driving experience. And I know how big that grille was, I think it's sleek, well-sculpted, modern, cohesive, and actually looks quite fashionable yet somehow works well with the overall (already stylish) design. (plus, I'm sure the grille will grow on you someday if you don't agree with me)
Fourth, the Avalon is significantly larger than the Camry, let alone a higher class vehicle. You're still paying for that superior interior room (that is even class-leading according to Toyota) and truck room. While the sloping roof-line does eat into headroom a little, I honestly had tons of it when I tested one in the flesh. Coming from someone who is around 6'2" as a matter of fact. And 37.9 in of rear headroom.. which is only 0.1 LESS than the Camry in rear-seat headroom, let alone the sloping roof-line paired with a lower height paying for that sexy styling, while besting its legroom by much, that's something to notice, and extra credit for the Avalon. There's in fact more to mention too..
So it's up to people to decide whether they want to go for the Camry or Avalon (if you want a mid-size or full-size sedan), but I think it's worth the upgrade personally. Both the new Camry and the new Avalon are great cars, but I think the Avalon is overall the better value, and is the best you can get from a car that's close to a luxury car. Especially with such a bargain price for what you get for the money.
While the new Camry is an overall great car regardless, and is a superb start for Toyota's new chapter of "ever-better cars"... the new Avalon was the one that blew me away when I tested it out in the flesh.
Bottom-line, the Avalon is to me, the better value, and just the better car overall versus the Camry. Better styling, better ride and handling, better comfort, better luxury, better utility and practicality, better quality, better technology, better personality, better refinement, better/easier to live with, and so much more. Even in comparison to the Accord and 6 (and also the Nissan Maxima, which you guys love comparing it to the Camry and Accord while ironically ignoring the snug interior that car has, even for a "full-size" sedan). Despite a loaded Avalon isn't even that much more expensive (price-wise) versus a loaded Camry Accord, Mazda6, etc, it is still absolutely worth it. Although comparing the Avalon those cars, would be like comparing apples to oranges, because... the Avalon is in a higher league.. lol
Get it through your thick skull everyone, the Avalon and Camry aren't the same thing, and aren't even comparable. Try again. The Avalon is in the full-size sedan segment, and is in a much higher league. While the Camry XSE actually gets expensive quickly with options (especially many of them found in the Avalon and not here), the Avalon is the bargain overall. At the end of it all, the roughly 5K-6K extra of the new Avalon, depending on packaging, is worth it.
Avalon > Any mainstream sedan that isn't wearing the luxury car badge, including the Accord, Mazda6, Camry, etc (even though they are in a smaller league) (in fact, even versus some luxury cars too)
End of discussion.
I'mJustFarhan Thank you for explaining, Justin Y
40+k toyota, might as well get a lexus at that price point. I'd buy one, lightly used & certified...lower price and extended warranty to boot. Nice car though, less the polarizing grill.
Good points! Thanks for the input and for watching!
Car is beautiful...just a bit too long.
It’s a good looker! Yeah it’s long, consider the Camry?
Long cars = luxury & comfort. If it’s not your cup of tea, just opt for a smaller line like the Camry.
Funny, man bun 😂😂, just say it girly hair bump 🙀. Avalon is a great car ! For 10k more you can get exactly the same car with the Lexus name on it, oh it does have some interior upgrades for that🤔 uh, NO.
Thus car really competes with the Maxima. I think the Nissan Maxima SR is a better choice than the Avalon XSE.
If you have a man bun, you don't need a real man's car anyways. Maybe a Kia Soul.
It looks like it sits too low.
That key, come on guys now. Its 2019
Rather get a Lexus
I hear ya!
What's with all the fake egg crate-looking plastic on the front end. This overall front end change to sportiness reminds me of an 85 year old man wearing black running tights and track shoes so he looks more like an athlete. This thing needs a ground-up redesign. Oh, also it has a big butt..too much junk in the trunk.
Avalon is a avalon
not into the grill. too big. looks goofy.
Haha i year ya. It gets a lot of mixed feelings
The grill in one word: Horrible
Toyota Crown > Toyota Avalon Touring
If only they sold those here in the US
Please don't say "definitely" 100 times in your videos.
The front grill, like the Lexus, is just off putting. Looks like Toyota hired the styling guy who did the Pontiac Aztec to design the grill. UGLY FROM ANY ANGLE!
Haha I remember that thing. Yeah it’s quite polarizing. I like the Lexus look better than this though
8 bucks a month what kind of crap is that
No kidding
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They are successful in putting out the most ugly car.😂