My dad was a real life homer. He always made mistakes and had a accidents on the job, and had arguements with coworkers. But in the 80s he was able to raise 3 kids, buy and pay off a house in the suburbs within 6 years. My mom didnt have to work (she did to fight boredom). We had 2 cars (1 of them new), camper and a motorcycle. And to top it off, he was an immigrant with little credentials. Meanwhile I had to work through college to graduate with an engineering degree. I have no debt, no kids and a used car. No chance for me to even buy a house where I was raised.
Even in the 90s my parents couldn't get by on one income. I feel like a lot of people in the 90s were getting by off credit trying to emulate the life that was possible for their parents but was quickly being chipped away as a serious possibility for average families.
i was 18 in 1991. we were the first generation to make less than our folks. Last to play outside. It was next to impossible to live unless i had roommates or a gf with a good job. Its only gotten worse. The Oligarchy needs to end!
Not last to play outside. I played outside growing up(yes with sticks so hold the L carlin), and I didnt even use the internet outside of schoolwork until the pandemic. I'm a zoomer. I think you underestimate how long it took private internet access and daily usage to reach most of America. @@erberIsSillyhawk
In the generation of the Boomers Ronald Reagan was the god tier final boss. He did so much damage and made sure the future generations had no chance at a easy life. You could now go to jail for YEARS or life for a drug offence, jobs were being sent out of the country, the price of everything soared while pay for the remaining jobs were cut and locked in at a low pay rate and welfare was cut like their was no tomorrow because Reagan and his wife thought no one needed it or deserved it. Once my mom told me that a little after I was born Nancy Reagan made a speech that the average family only needed a little around $100 a month to live off of. My mom then said in the 80s $100 might scape you by for 2 weeks and not a chance in hell would it let you make it a month but what pissed her off the most was how Nancy was saying that while wearing a dress that cost $30,000. Her and her husband were the most detached people in the world when it came to the problems working class people faced and was the perfect example of Boomer mideset of "I got mine so tough luck if you ever get yours".
Reagan's cutting of social welfare, his destruction of mental institutes and his allowance of drug traders caused a massive explosion of crime. However rather than being honest and taking responsibility for his bad decisions he blamed it on blacks and said to get "tough on crime".
Yeah, we do. But people are to lazy and weak willed or else it would have happened already. Face it Americans need to become a little more French right now
My parents had four kids from the early to the middle 50's. The family had a house in C.A., a cabin in the hills, new cars, vacations across the US and trips to every Disneyland and Magic Mountain regularly. All that on my father's paycheck as an aeronautical engineer. They had two more kids in the 60's and after the bottom fell out of his profession in the 70's he went from job to job, fell into a deep depression he eventually landed a job in Mississippi as a hydrologic engineer which he hated. We lost the house in C.A. and rented until he died. We have a similar story since my husband's mechanical engineering jobs left the country time after time we've been scrambling ever since. The American dream is unattainable for most of us anymore. We're just trying to survive.
How much debt did they carry? What was their financial education? In these questions you’ll find your answers. Live within your means and this is all attainable. I have a family of six on one income under the poverty limits. We’re happy and live just fine. Our friends that make more and live in debt, not so much. This is also with a junior high education. Dave Ramsey disproves this everyday. Please stop getting your information from a 22 year old kid with no life experience and knows nothing of what he’s talking about.
@@par3me Do you have any idea how many of us are out on the streets now? We consciously stay out of debt. Bankers and advisors are shocked when they find out we run a bicycle shop paying cash for everything. Just because your family does fine on a low income doesn't mean that shit's right.
@@vivalaleta Most definitely it does not. I’m just not playing the I need more because I miss manage my financials game. If you bring more to the table then demand more. If they won’t pay more, find someone that will. If no one will pay what you’re worth. Maybe you’re not worth it yet. The argument for more money because your parents were more finically responsible than you isn’t a good one.
@@par3me so what is your answer to people that " Maybe you’re not worth it yet." ? in a very real way these people that you say are "not worth it yet." are starving, homeless, sick. what answer do you provide for them? because from your comment, all you are showing is that you have no empathy for their situation. i'll give you some good faith that you said "yet". so please lay out how a person that is struggling is supposed to become "worth it". p.s. the fact you even used the words "worth it" what is "it"? life? could you really mean that some people are worth respect and dignity and some aren't?
@@Andre-qo5ek Everyone has value and is worth something. When I said not worth what they believe their value to be yet. Example; 15 year old kid flipping burgers. He wants 50.00 bucks an hour but he brings no value aside from bright eyes and a bushy tail. That’s great the kid sees himself as being worth 50 bucks an hour. But he hasn’t created the value. Your 40 and never invested in your skills and can only find entry level positions. Just because your 40, doesn’t mean you deserve more money. Work to learn and obtain new skills. Work hard, learn as much as you can. Work on your personal and profesional abilities until you are worth it. This was a very basic and dumbed down example but I think it paints the picture. We’re not owed anything and we deserve nothing. For those that are mentally ill and unable to take care of themselves. This is where a strong community comes in to help. Neighbors, churches, non profit etc. 95-98% of the homelessness is drugs and mental illness. Not a lack of opportunities. Thank you for the dialogue. 👍🏼
I would love this! Information on the history of unions; their successes and shortcomings. Everyone knows unions are an imperfect, but necessary means to representation for workers. Some nuanced information on how to participate and make your union the best it can be would be invaluable.
So is propaganda. Please don’t take everything at face value. Please understand that their are two sides to every story. Good information provides both talking points honesty. Propaganda pushes a narrative. Ask questions, do your own research.
@@par3me how is this propaganda? What research have you done? I’m so lost as to what your credentials are… i’m a recent graduate with a political science degree. So please explain how this is propaganda?
I remember that america. I grew up in it not having any reason to think I couldn't look forward to having the same life my parents did with relative ease...L.O.L. (both parents worked but still)
Growing up in the 90s my dad was a boiler technician for Lockheed Martin in New Orleans, so not only was his income range relatable, but my dad also had an office with a slightly less cartoonish control panel. Also my dad made a lot of poor spending choices that like the Simpsons, put some variability in what kind of stuff we could afford in different years.
*WE NEED DEMOCRACY AT WORK!* Worker Co-ops should be the norm! Not the exception! Businesses should be run primarily by and for the workers that operate those businesses!
@@ghassanazzeh5593 Actually, no, strictly speaking it wouldnt be. It would be a socialist form of organizing the work place. But communism actually goes further than worker owned workplaces.
It really is quite simple what killed economic mobility: globalization killing the industries and education subsidization and requirements making even basic opportunities impossible to acquire.
You may not be advocating for pulling a Maggie Simpson, but It is an incontrovertible fact that the world and our country would be better off without the billionaires. On a completely unrelated note, Peter Thiel is the IRL Mr Burns in basically every sense.
Sounds like Homer had another source of income much like the same income made by the character in the movie 'Say Anything'. Wonder why he was never audited or investigated.
Homer was audited in the Trillion dollar bill episode with Castro. If you need headcannon Homer canonically steals from Ned so hes basically subsidized by his neighbor.
The show was conceived in the late 1980s, when it wasn't out of the realm of possibility that a man with a union job might be able to afford a modest (by tv show standards) house, especially after his father helped him afford it. It just seems impossible now because the writers wanted things to stay consistent.
For me holding a job was a waste of time, totally not worth it. Obviously slavery , starving just to pay rent I’d rather be homeless and free Than someone’s bitch every day for next to nothing Show me an opportunity that proves me wrong.
@@foxymetroid It is realistic if: They don't pay for electricity or is 5$ per month and the food is 5$ and the fuel for the car is 10$. And I can tell you that they are everywhere, it's just taxes are involved. Like one litter of diesel in UK and the rest of Europe is 0.30 cents and after tax is 1.80 (pounds or euro). I'm from Bulgaria and my country produce electricity about 200% the needs of the 6 million people for for a fraction of the one euro ,but "we" sell it to other countries 10 times fold, and we also have expensive electricity.
The Simpson's are below middle class the house has cracks in the walls. The cars are old and dented. Remember when Homer spent all of the Christmas cash? Remember when Homer made it rich with his get rich skeems and got the kids injections for school? The Simpson's made less than 55k a year.. Does anybody remember when Homer lost his Christmas bonus and Marge had to remove a tattoo from Bart's arm? They were broke. Anybody can own 2 cars. I make 30k a year and own 3. Im a single family income and it sucks ..
I think their financial situation fluctuates because of Homer's crazy spending. It always made sense to me when the family would be poor in one episode and rich in another. That they would represent prosperity in one episode and near poverty in another. Because my dad was middle class and he had outrageous spending habits which cause my lifestyle growing up to fluctuate like crazy.
Shallow analysis. Government policies have vastly driven up the costs of college, food, housing. Please educate yourself. Read sources you don't normally access.
We're not. The simpsons here is used as a hook for the audience to understand the issue being discussed because of their likelihood to have absorbed it as children or young adults. It's a corollary, meant to allow the audience to have something familiar to compare to. This is like basic videomaking and storytelling 101. It was no doubt taught in your elementary school. To not understand this level of story hook is basically the equivalent of being illiterate.
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the narrative that Americans are less well-off today because the 1% took the money. The combined net worth of the 400 richest Americans is 3.2 trillion dollars. However, considering the fact that it takes a few decades to build up wealth, on average, as well as the fact that there are 365 million Americans, if the 400 richest Americans didn't hoard wealth in the first place, this would have only translated to an extra 1,000$ annually per household in a 30 year period. It's not that much.
In the US in 2022 the top 10% owned 68% of the national wealth. Versus 3.3% for the bottom 50%. With the top 1% owning 30.6%. The mean wealth per Capita in the US is about 500-600k. Basically meaning if all the wealth of the US was evenly distributed. Every household would be as wealthy as the current top 10%. Yeah inequality is bad. Your only looking at a few hundred people and yet they own way more wealth than half of the population. And this is only looking within the US and not outward to the global population as a whole. Of course this is all understated really as there's more to it of course than simple buying power. It also places control over the economy and control of the state in the hands of a small minority.
The rich had to get that money somehow. Many either ran or invested in companies that kept some jobs underpaid and outsourced the rest. There are also those getting rich by buying new houses en masse and either selling them for a profit (often to other companies/investors who will sell them again for a profit) or renting them out. They also paid politicians to gut regulations intended to keep things survivable for most of the country.
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My dad was a real life homer. He always made mistakes and had a accidents on the job, and had arguements with coworkers. But in the 80s he was able to raise 3 kids, buy and pay off a house in the suburbs within 6 years. My mom didnt have to work (she did to fight boredom). We had 2 cars (1 of them new), camper and a motorcycle. And to top it off, he was an immigrant with little credentials. Meanwhile I had to work through college to graduate with an engineering degree. I have no debt, no kids and a used car. No chance for me to even buy a house where I was raised.
Oo did you have an intercom and a robot
"It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin.
Even in the 90s my parents couldn't get by on one income. I feel like a lot of people in the 90s were getting by off credit trying to emulate the life that was possible for their parents but was quickly being chipped away as a serious possibility for average families.
i was 18 in 1991. we were the first generation to make less than our folks. Last to play outside. It was next to impossible to live unless i had roommates or a gf with a good job. Its only gotten worse. The Oligarchy needs to end!
True. Even in 1989 calling Homer "average" was quite a stretch. He was certainly on the upper end of "average".
Yeah, even in 1989 Homer Simson was higher middle class.
Not last to play outside. I played outside growing up(yes with sticks so hold the L carlin), and I didnt even use the internet outside of schoolwork until the pandemic. I'm a zoomer. I think you underestimate how long it took private internet access and daily usage to reach most of America. @@erberIsSillyhawk
In the generation of the Boomers Ronald Reagan was the god tier final boss. He did so much damage and made sure the future generations had no chance at a easy life. You could now go to jail for YEARS or life for a drug offence, jobs were being sent out of the country, the price of everything soared while pay for the remaining jobs were cut and locked in at a low pay rate and welfare was cut like their was no tomorrow because Reagan and his wife thought no one needed it or deserved it.
Once my mom told me that a little after I was born Nancy Reagan made a speech that the average family only needed a little around $100 a month to live off of. My mom then said in the 80s $100 might scape you by for 2 weeks and not a chance in hell would it let you make it a month but what pissed her off the most was how Nancy was saying that while wearing a dress that cost $30,000. Her and her husband were the most detached people in the world when it came to the problems working class people faced and was the perfect example of Boomer mideset of "I got mine so tough luck if you ever get yours".
A couple of psychopaths.
Reagan's cutting of social welfare, his destruction of mental institutes and his allowance of drug traders caused a massive explosion of crime. However rather than being honest and taking responsibility for his bad decisions he blamed it on blacks and said to get "tough on crime".
Racists.
Maggie's the real hero ✊
So much respect for the families sharing their stories 💞
We need a general strike. The quality of life has gone down dramatically. Something needs to change
Yeah, we do. But people are to lazy and weak willed or else it would have happened already. Face it Americans need to become a little more French right now
We need a revolution
Unfortunately that is illegal and you will be beaten by the police. You are only allowed to strike for yourself, never for another.
What blows my mind is that most Americans will not change their spending habits. If we only bought what we need that could help tbings.
@@mikemaj8467 It's because we live in a consumerist society. If you consume less that means you are lower in society.
I want people to pull a real life Maggie Simpson tbh. 👀
My parents had four kids from the early to the middle 50's. The family had a house in C.A., a cabin in the hills, new cars, vacations across the US and trips to every Disneyland and Magic Mountain regularly. All that on my father's paycheck as an aeronautical engineer. They had two more kids in the 60's and after the bottom fell out of his profession in the 70's he went from job to job, fell into a deep depression he eventually landed a job in Mississippi as a hydrologic engineer which he hated. We lost the house in C.A. and rented until he died. We have a similar story since my husband's mechanical engineering jobs left the country time after time we've been scrambling ever since. The American dream is unattainable for most of us anymore. We're just trying to survive.
How much debt did they carry? What was their financial education? In these questions you’ll find your answers.
Live within your means and this is all attainable. I have a family of six on one income under the poverty limits. We’re happy and live just fine. Our friends that make more and live in debt, not so much. This is also with a junior high education. Dave Ramsey disproves this everyday.
Please stop getting your information from a 22 year old kid with no life experience and knows nothing of what he’s talking about.
@@par3me Do you have any idea how many of us are out on the streets now?
We consciously stay out of debt. Bankers and advisors are shocked when they find out we run a bicycle shop paying cash for everything. Just because your family does fine on a low income doesn't mean that shit's right.
@@vivalaleta Most definitely it does not. I’m just not playing the I need more because I miss manage my financials game. If you bring more to the table then demand more. If they won’t pay more, find someone that will. If no one will pay what you’re worth. Maybe you’re not worth it yet.
The argument for more money because your parents were more finically responsible than you isn’t a good one.
@@par3me
so what is your answer to people that " Maybe you’re not worth it yet." ?
in a very real way these people that you say are "not worth it yet." are starving, homeless, sick. what answer do you provide for them? because from your comment, all you are showing is that you have no empathy for their situation.
i'll give you some good faith that you said "yet". so please lay out how a person that is struggling is supposed to become "worth it".
p.s.
the fact you even used the words "worth it" what is "it"? life? could you really mean that some people are worth respect and dignity and some aren't?
@@Andre-qo5ek Everyone has value and is worth something. When I said not worth what they believe their value to be yet. Example; 15 year old kid flipping burgers. He wants 50.00 bucks an hour but he brings no value aside from bright eyes and a bushy tail. That’s great the kid sees himself as being worth 50 bucks an hour. But he hasn’t created the value.
Your 40 and never invested in your skills and can only find entry level positions. Just because your 40, doesn’t mean you deserve more money. Work to learn and obtain new skills. Work hard, learn as much as you can. Work on your personal and profesional abilities until you are worth it. This was a very basic and dumbed down example but I think it paints the picture.
We’re not owed anything and we deserve nothing. For those that are mentally ill and unable to take care of themselves. This is where a strong community comes in to help. Neighbors, churches, non profit etc. 95-98% of the homelessness is drugs and mental illness. Not a lack of opportunities.
Thank you for the dialogue. 👍🏼
Solidarity with brotherhood of pastry
chef, ballet performers and nuclear technicians union!
Wobbly, I take it?
can we get a video on how to be a good union member?
ask not what your {union} can do for you, but what you can do for your {unions }.
I would love this! Information on the history of unions; their successes and shortcomings. Everyone knows unions are an imperfect, but necessary means to representation for workers. Some nuanced information on how to participate and make your union the best it can be would be invaluable.
Great idea!
Would you watch if it was a new channel? From a total new creator?
@@phastinemoon sure. please share.
I love this format! Informative as always, thank you!
So is propaganda. Please don’t take everything at face value. Please understand that their are two sides to every story. Good information provides both talking points honesty. Propaganda pushes a narrative. Ask questions, do your own research.
@@par3me how is this propaganda? What research have you done? I’m so lost as to what your credentials are… i’m a recent graduate with a political science degree. So please explain how this is propaganda?
@@lisandroestevez-inoa2405 I hope I didn’t finance that degree.
@@par3me oh dear
@@par3me how is this propaganda? This is my story and my research.
Really great series! Keep making these, they are awesome!
Still my favorite show of all time. Learned so many lessons.
I remember that america. I grew up in it not having any reason to think I couldn't look forward to having the same life my parents did with relative ease...L.O.L. (both parents worked but still)
Great video! Thank you ❣
Excellent story telling.
I am "jokingly" advocating for pulling a Maggie Simpson, if that's what it takes.
Loving that Soviet Space Graphics book on the shelf in the background!
This is gonna force people to work together! Let’s work together people.
After earning my BA in 1999, I was getting $7 an hour temp office jobs.
Great work, Sean
very relatable. i like this show
Excellently done
Great content!
7:47 I'm am.
The workers don't need Mr. Burns.
Growing up in the 90s my dad was a boiler technician for Lockheed Martin in New Orleans, so not only was his income range relatable, but my dad also had an office with a slightly less cartoonish control panel. Also my dad made a lot of poor spending choices that like the Simpsons, put some variability in what kind of stuff we could afford in different years.
This is great insight and analysis of what's going on in real time for the average middle class family.
No body gets it in comments seems to get it. They watching cartoons.. we're doomed
Depressing
*WE NEED DEMOCRACY AT WORK!*
Worker Co-ops should be the norm! Not the exception! Businesses should be run primarily by and for the workers that operate those businesses!
U see, that would be “communism”
@@ghassanazzeh5593 Actually, no, strictly speaking it wouldnt be. It would be a socialist form of organizing the work place. But communism actually goes further than worker owned workplaces.
@@godonlyknows13 I’m fully aware of that. Just highlighting how ignorant people would criticize your idea (which is a great one imo, I’m all for it(
@@ghassanazzeh5593 oic. I gotchu now lol.
This presentation was ...excellent.
Great show!
No, you don't get it. You just need to work harder, personal resbahbahbahlityty
Great story telling
Great great video guys
Homer is living the American Dream.
I think he was always supposed to be middle class. It's hammered home quite a lot.
Republican (noun): A person who blames the government, immigrants, pronouns, and unions for bad things that big businesses have done to them.
It really is quite simple what killed economic mobility: globalization killing the industries and education subsidization and requirements making even basic opportunities impossible to acquire.
Super good video
great video
Maggie Simpson was pretty based 🤣
They Made an Episode about this.
It,s Called poorhouse rock.
Union all day, everyday. Teamsters Local 554 strong
I wish I had Unions when I worked at Convergys and Anthem Inc now known as Elevance Health of Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield.
You may not be advocating for pulling a Maggie Simpson, but It is an incontrovertible fact that the world and our country would be better off without the billionaires.
On a completely unrelated note, Peter Thiel is the IRL Mr Burns in basically every sense.
Living in ny making 100k a year and im struggling
Maggie seems pretty based
dental plan.
and this is the sad truth
Married with Children.
Maggie did nothing wrong actually
Hey I’m glad they found a family that is a like them but what about the Cran stuck up homers knows
I've been at my job for 20 years. When you take inflation into account my yearly raise has been $100 per year.
Sounds like Homer had another source of income much like the same income made by the character in the movie 'Say Anything'. Wonder why he was never audited or investigated.
Homer was audited in the Trillion dollar bill episode with Castro.
If you need headcannon Homer canonically steals from Ned so hes basically subsidized by his neighbor.
@@gapsule2326 I don't watch the show. But if the show did not reveal how he could afford all that he possessed then it was a scam.
The show was conceived in the late 1980s, when it wasn't out of the realm of possibility that a man with a union job might be able to afford a modest (by tv show standards) house, especially after his father helped him afford it. It just seems impossible now because the writers wanted things to stay consistent.
For me holding a job was a waste of time, totally not worth it.
Obviously slavery , starving just to pay rent
I’d rather be homeless and free Than someone’s bitch every day for next to nothing
Show me an opportunity that proves me wrong.
Ha ha ha. What about the "Maried with children" All?
Or even "Malcom in the Middle" the Hall and Louis with 4 children 2 cars and one more child at the end.
The Bundys apparently lived in a wealthy neighborhood, making it more unrealistic, even for the 1980s.
@@foxymetroid It is realistic if: They don't pay for electricity or is 5$ per month and the food is 5$ and the fuel for the car is 10$. And I can tell you that they are everywhere, it's just taxes are involved. Like one litter of diesel in UK and the rest of Europe is 0.30 cents and after tax is 1.80 (pounds or euro). I'm from Bulgaria and my country produce electricity about 200% the needs of the 6 million people for for a fraction of the one euro ,but "we" sell it to other countries 10 times fold, and we also have expensive electricity.
@@foxymetroid I like the shows ,because they display what are the real prices in they own way I guess.😐
Guillotines
The Simpson's are below middle class the house has cracks in the walls. The cars are old and dented. Remember when Homer spent all of the Christmas cash? Remember when Homer made it rich with his get rich skeems and got the kids injections for school? The Simpson's made less than 55k a year.. Does anybody remember when Homer lost his Christmas bonus and Marge had to remove a tattoo from Bart's arm? They were broke. Anybody can own 2 cars. I make 30k a year and own 3. Im a single family income and it sucks ..
I think their financial situation fluctuates because of Homer's crazy spending. It always made sense to me when the family would be poor in one episode and rich in another. That they would represent prosperity in one episode and near poverty in another. Because my dad was middle class and he had outrageous spending habits which cause my lifestyle growing up to fluctuate like crazy.
Not African American. We just know that was a cartoon.
Unions declined because the union makes it hard to join and get a union job
Living in imaginary world.
Shallow analysis. Government policies have vastly driven up the costs of college, food, housing. Please educate yourself. Read sources you don't normally access.
This is a show, a TV show. Why are we basing our lives from a TV cartoon?
We're not. The simpsons here is used as a hook for the audience to understand the issue being discussed because of their likelihood to have absorbed it as children or young adults. It's a corollary, meant to allow the audience to have something familiar to compare to. This is like basic videomaking and storytelling 101. It was no doubt taught in your elementary school. To not understand this level of story hook is basically the equivalent of being illiterate.
YOU Sunk My Scrabble-Ship..!! I've been sayin that since the 90's... Getting paid the same wage as the 90's too...
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the narrative that Americans are less well-off today because the 1% took the money. The combined net worth of the 400 richest Americans is 3.2 trillion dollars. However, considering the fact that it takes a few decades to build up wealth, on average, as well as the fact that there are 365 million Americans, if the 400 richest Americans didn't hoard wealth in the first place, this would have only translated to an extra 1,000$ annually per household in a 30 year period. It's not that much.
Haha.... yeah i guess your right we are all richer now because the billionaires are.
In the US in 2022 the top 10% owned 68% of the national wealth. Versus 3.3% for the bottom 50%. With the top 1% owning 30.6%. The mean wealth per Capita in the US is about 500-600k. Basically meaning if all the wealth of the US was evenly distributed. Every household would be as wealthy as the current top 10%.
Yeah inequality is bad. Your only looking at a few hundred people and yet they own way more wealth than half of the population. And this is only looking within the US and not outward to the global population as a whole.
Of course this is all understated really as there's more to it of course than simple buying power. It also places control over the economy and control of the state in the hands of a small minority.
The rich had to get that money somehow. Many either ran or invested in companies that kept some jobs underpaid and outsourced the rest. There are also those getting rich by buying new houses en masse and either selling them for a profit (often to other companies/investors who will sell them again for a profit) or renting them out. They also paid politicians to gut regulations intended to keep things survivable for most of the country.