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Baki verse is pretty much "Normal" in comparision with Opm verse in matter of scalling. Just to u know, mosquito girl ( on her peak) who is considered a weakling currently, would be easily top tier in baki verse.
it's also interesting to note, that Yujiro never deflects bullets with his hands but always dodges them entirely by getting out of their trajectory, including pistol calibers and intermediate m-16 caliber bullets But Garou on the other hand deflected a massive barrage of *high caliber* minigun bullets from like 10 yards away without a single step sideways which indicates that Garou's bone, tendon, muscle & skin toughness is way stronger then that of yujiro and thus can tank far more damage
@@Josda69 he was not able to tank them bombs, he was able to dodge and avoid their blast waves / if he was able to tank such bombs, he would never even bother dodging bullets, but those would just bounce off him like with Superman also Musashi would never be able to cut Yujiro's neck even a bit if he had a body tough enough to resist plane bombs
@@Josda69 having skin burn does not mean direct hit from a plane bomb / be reasonable here, Yujiro is the type to take hits just to flex, If a plane bomb cannot destroy him then neither would a bullet get into his body nor that heavy arrow that that archer shot at him at point black & Yet he never allows a bullet to hit him & and he grabbed that arrow with his hand before the arrow tip reached his skin, Why ???? if the bullet deflects on impact on his body or if the arrow breaks on impact, surely he would flex on that too and yet... He Does not, he avoids the bullets, therefor is highly likely he did get hit directly by those plane bombs and if he did and if he could tank them, then surely the author would make sure we got that message across in detail I too know that Itagaki's "logic" is all over the place, But in terms of dodging bullets he is very consistent with yujiro and baki / the one exception is Oliva with his massive muscle's catching shotgun hail, but that's not meant to go deep and nowhere near the same as an intermediate cartridge let alone a heavy calibre
@@Josda69 yeah, but the claim that he directly tanked a plane bomb is just your assumption not a direct detailed confirmation of Itagaki / if he could tank bullets, surely that would be shown too along with the dodging Sure he survived a plane bombardment of an area by dodging the bombs and avoiding the close proximity of the explosions and probably might've avoided or deflected the shrapnel too, but a direct hit ???? No that requires a solid statement from the author which there is not
@@Josda69 highly possible to you, highly unlikely to me, or else we'd see at least some scenes of him tanking up bullets or arrows or other stuff, But he always dodges them, Why ??? Cause they can most likely kill him and go through him while garou deflected a whole barage with technique and his bare hands without taking one side step, shows that the latter has a more tougher body and thus could tank up more damage then Yujiro
Basically to summarize the video. Garou wins either way. Only way the fights even close is if you give Yujiro the benefit of the doubt and give him full benefit of his contested feats, but don’t do the same for Garou. Otherwise Garou stomps hard.
And ofc yall don't even give my man Yujiro that. This video was literally made by an opm fan to shit on Baki. Brother lowballed every feat Yujiro showed and glazed Garou. Same with this community just a bunch of opm fans glazing one another.
@@hazardous8301 You really said cringe as if to prove a point, opm fans are clearly retarded af. Yall see flashy characters who shoot lasers at monsters and think it's sick or badass in any kinda way. Literally the worst manga ever fucking written, the only reason it was made was to compete with the likes of dbz. In which it still gets fucking clapped. This video did NOT give Yujiro every benefit, bro took away all of his feats saying they could be real but they're probably not so therefore Yujiro loses. In which case yall are brain dead if you think the strongest character in the verse doesn't have feats like this when it's stated.
Yujiro is extremely strong by normal human standards. Garou is extremely strong by superhuman standards. They're not remotely in the same league of power.
remember when genos said saitamas super intense training schedule was just average training for the average man? thats proof even opm's citizens are low superhumans themselves
@@nic_____ saitama had a low ceiling for his limiter because he was not born strong. A person like saitama became because his limiter was easy to break
@aurelian2668 I wanna say something kinda funny about opm universe. I think people in the verse have over time tried to skip training to gain power that somehow while the idea of training is known people don't do it. We got saitama who trained and became much stronger but later on there's a character that takes saitama's tip and he actually does skyrocket in power. So what if everyone is just skipping training and have the potential (probably not to saitama' level but like A class from normal citizen)
@@bazofikiuh no. You guys don’t fucking read Baki and it’s embarrassing. Yujiro is literally garou on crack. Garou when he fought bang for the last time was mediocre compared to most characters in current baki. The only difference is Yusuke murata draws a more flashy spectacle when they punch. Like adding explosions or something. At 16 he (Yurjio) dodges bullets from several different gunmen and took them out before the bullets hit the wall. He’s also able to escape a building and run around it for an ambush before the shots hit the wall only 4-5ft from where they fired from. Deflecting bullets is childsplay for Baki. MOST characters right now can do that. Also throwing a giant boulder doesn’t mean much. At all. Hanayama was able to one punch a moving armoured military vehicle with ease. Yurjio also folded him into a pretzel after breaking his limbs. literally. A weaker Yurjio. Remember the giant monster elephant? The ENTIRE American army was not able to even scratch it after hours of constant artillery barrages and hundreds of tons of explosives. Yurjio speed blitzed it and LITERALLY folded it into a pretzel. S class heroes are defined by their ability to rival a nations army. Think about that for 2 seconds. Dude. Seriously. I have read opm several times, you’re just embarrassing yourselves here. Yurjio was punching with more force than the equivalent of the entire American armies military arsenal being fired for hours altogether. These are strawmans of Yurjio to make garou look good. Copying martial arts is Yurjio’s ENTIRE FUCKING SHTICK and he can do it BETTER than garou does. He canonically can instantly learn any martial arts by looking at someone. He doesn’t need to practise it, he doesn’t need to see it, he doesn’t even need to know about it. Like do you people not realise he canonically can learn any martial arts by fighting a user of it in his imagination? Did you forget that was a power he has and uses? Garou gets completely stomped in this fight. It’s not even a competition.
Garou would also keep evolving as he goes like he did when fighting Bang and Bomb, which would make him winning even more viable. Any of his half monster forms after human Garou would easily demolish Yujiro let alone his full monster. Yujiro should be able to compete with Tank Top Master and Puri Puri Prisoner which would put him in low S class.
@gandsproductions5105 I know but human garou would continually get stronger so it would only be a debate for the first part of the fight. I am very curious how powerful human Garou is now in the Manga or if he will get stronger without monsterizing in the future.
@slade3361 but human garou didn't really get stronger like how he did when he monsterized. He adapted, which is addressed in the video. Also, I'm not saying yujiro would beat garou, opm just has higher scaling. The only way I could see that happening is if he learns water stream rock smashing fist.
Really love your powerscaling videos, you take into account the whole story and try to back up a claim with other feats. This way you can properly scale a character without having to worry about misstranslations or story inconsistencies.
One of human Garou's best durability feat that most don't remember is him tanking a full powered punch from Tank Top Master, the same Tank Top Master that threw a building at Boros's ship. Reaction speed, come on he deflected machine gun shots from Death Gantling, plus Garou is a genius he'll just copy whatever martial art Yujiro has and he can spam Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist to deflect and redirect any of Yujiro's strongest punches. So it's obvious who's winning.
You guys don’t fucking read Baki and it’s embarrassing. My guy yujiro can move faster than sound easily. At 16 he dodges bullets from several different gunmen and took them out before the bullets hit the wall. He’s also able to escape a building and run around it for an ambush before the shots hit the wall only 4-5ft from where they fired from. Deflecting bullets is childsplay for Baki. MOST characters right now can do that. Also throwing a giant boulder doesn’t mean much. At all. Hanayama was able to one punch a moving armoured military vehicle with ease. Yurjio also folded him into a pretzel after breaking his limbs. literally. A weaker Yurjio. Remember the giant moms tee elephant? The ENTIRE American army was not able to even scratch it after hours of constant artillery barrages and hundreds of tons of explosives. Yurjio speed blitzed it and LITERALLY folded it into a pretzel. S class heroes are defined by their ability to rival a nations army. Think about that for 2 seconds. Dude. Seriously. I have read opm several times, you’re just embarrassing yourself here. Yurjio was punching with more force than the equivalent of the entire American armies military arsenal being fired for hours. Copying martial arts is Yurjio’s ENTIRE FUCKING SHTICK and he can do it BETTER than garou does. He canonically can instantly learn any martial arts by looking at someone. He doesn’t need to practise it, he doesn’t need to see it, he doesn’t even need to know about it. Like do you people not realise he canonically can learn any martial arts by fighting a user of it in his imagination? Did you forget that was a power he has and uses? Garou gets completely stomped in this fight. It’s not even a competition.
I wouldn't consider Yujiro not causing earthquakes later on to be an anti-feat. Characters rarely deal the maximum collateral damage they could with every single attack. More so an inconsistency that comes with fictional fighting in general.
Exactly that. Its that stupid argument again were people beliefe DBS characters are only building lvl since they only destroy buildings. People should remember attack potency doesn't equal area of effect or destructive capability.
@@duncanmcokiner4242 Thats just the thing. I have never seen a fighting anime were they don't suppres their aoe when fighting. Just doesn't make sense to constantly blow up the surrounding when u are just trying to defeat one guy.
@@matthiasrauert8397 I write one of my own, yet to be published, and I take it into account by having the powerhouses use joint locks and chokeholds that don't generate shockwaves like their strikes would.
Yujiro's earthquake punch wasn't an anti-feat. It's a legit feat. He's also survived a lightning bolt directly to the head and seemed like he didn't even notice. Garou still absolutely stomps the shit out of him. No sells him. But Yujiro is still a monster.
@@zannchristo I don't see what you're saying "no" to when we basically said the same thing. Although it wasn't stated he could have avoided it, either way he seemed like he didn't notice.
@@bigbuba5212Humans don’t regenerate from a hole in their torso, or from a complete shattered ribcage in an instant just to keep fighting even stronger seconds later. Spiral garou is a half-monster, its stated in the manga. Your “books” are wrong
Baki characters are very inconsistent and their feats prove this. Garou being a OPM character and one that ends up fighting Saitama should show that he bodies anyone in the Baki verse.
Garou is basically the DOOMSDAY from DC because of his Reactive Evolution he can get stronger and faster after receiving a lot of damage and can copy skills and techniques with just a simple glance of his eyes and memorizing his opponents fighting style just by adapting to them.
Yurjio literally does the same thing but better. You people need to read both mangas when you do this shit seriously it’s embarrassing. My guy, Yurjio can instantly learn any martial arts by fucking IMAGINING himself fighting someone with the technique. IM. NOT. EXAGGERATING. Your comment is just describing Yurjio but worse. Since Yurjio can do all of that but far more advanced.
Indeed Garou is the only other character in OPM verse that is really going to break its limiter. His last fight was planet busting size, even if he was upgraded by God. My opinion is that Garou is still able to reach and surpass this power level by himself, given the right conditions. God in reality acts just like a super monster cell: big power up, but stop to evolution
@@calmmoon777 they share a lot of moves the problem is thanks to genos garou scales to (lowballing) a good percentage of lightspeed we know this because he out sped genos who out sped the light beams genos also before upgrades blew the top of a mountain off and then had to tank his own beam got upgraded lost to seaking who tanked his beam and then got even more upgrades and beats seaking(simulation) AND THEN LOSES TO GAROU not to mention garous crazy endurance as while sick injured sleep deprived and defending a child he clutched a 6v1 and casually deflected minigun rounds Tldr garou is close to light speed is stronger than a heavily upgraded genos and has cracked endurance
love the content, be carful about anything anything baki related that's translated by wild fang (Ichido). He's been exposed making up translations, scamming people and more
I literally watch your content everysingle time you upload , and yes i noticed so many mistranslations , especially when i watched the anime , since i somehow understand japanese , i tried to double check everything but its just overwhelming, thank you so much for commenting MysteriousWeeb , made my day
A very strong guy against someone who fought 8 heroes while deathly hurt, sick, poisoned and tired before fighting a cyborg capable of destroying mountains and the 2 best martial artist in the entire world at the same time Great matchup😃👍
Lets not forget that Garou has his Fist of Flowing Water copied by Orochi, *King of Monster* , yet he was able to last for a surprisingly good amount of time
No. 😂 most characters in Baki have the same skill set as garou but they do it way better than he does. Even fodder characters have reached bullet deflecting speeds. Garou is the Baki equivalent of Motobe. Without his inhuman strength and speed garou has actually nothing that’s impressive in the Baki universe. He’s good at martial arts compared to average person, but compared to the average fighter he’s fodder. And current Yurjio is already impressive enough to be top 5 s class. AVERAGE yujiro, meaning the Yurjio who never tries, is never using his full arsenal, is never really worried ever when fighting anybody. I can go on. S class are defined by their ability to rival a nations military. The entire American military fired their entire arsenal for hours on a giant monster elephant and didn’t even scratch it meanwhile Yurjio broke its limbs with a single punch each and folded it into a pretzel. This monster elephant would’ve demon level in opm. It was immune to thousands of tons of artillery. Didn’t even make it blink.
@@zzodysseuszzagain garou has insane feats such as no selling mountain top destroying attacks and being = to light speed his A.P is >/= to said mountain attacks as he can damage genos and rip his arms off (said genos is easily able to tank his own beams)
@@zzodysseuszzlol again with the US military example, my guy a single S class hero would easily make fodder all of the military in the Bakiverse, OPM verse doesn't have military for a reason, a normal demon level monster can destroy entire cities easily, OPM verse completely out scales Bakiverse, the entire Baki verse would be A class at best, and you still wanna compare a big elephant to something like the deep sea king who can move faster than rain drops lol
@@insanef7481 i dont really remember spring mustachio feats but I think it's not that great is it? Yujiro might be stronger than him by a small margin
At lightspeed you can travel around the world 7 times in less than a second, that's why the arguments of characters like Awakened Cockroach or G4 Genos dodging "light" have no real basis as they obviously aren't as fast. Awakened Cockroach had his increased senses that allowed him to predict danger and move accordingly (like a spider-sense). And this wouldn't mean he can fight or move at lightspeed, it means he can predict attacks that go at lightspeed and move out of the way before he gets hit. But he can't move as fast as light. Among the S class only Flashy Flash is currently proven to be only one to have lightspeed capabilities (and obviously Blast because he speedblitzed him). Flashy fought Platinum and Monster Garou in less than a second all around Z city in the sky forming a big estructure of light that could be seen from other cities at least. (This goes more in line with how lightspeed would look in the real world as their fight happened in milliseconds). Flashy was stated to be the fastest S class (excluding Blast in the Databook and Unknown if watchdogman could be as fast). But It makes sense given a lot of S class heroes had to work together to catch jet Psykorochi (compared to the fight of the speedsters is a Night and day difference in speed). And goes without saying Flashy Flash is several times faster than what Awakened Cockroach or G4 ever were. This is why the whole Awakened Cockroach and G4 Genos are faster than light is not really accurate.
People that claim early Luffy is ftl need to read this, there is nothing in one piece that really even matches the speed of light except kizaru yet they scale early Luffy faster than light because he dodged a beam, in the world that has a specific power system for predicting and dodging stuff
@@DongbaekEGOSpicebush Many people aren't ready to accept It. But just because your favorite character can Dodge lasers that are "lightspeed" doesn't mean your favorite character can be lightspeed. People sayin' Daredevil can react at a "peacosecond" yet Bullseye nails him with a paper plane. Extremis Ironman reacting at the speed of thought. Or whatever bs there Is One Piece. Heck even most of Dragon Ball Z People throw the "Faster than light" like nothing nowadays.
Yujiro was having a hard time with baki who can reach 168 mph with a special technique. He can reach hypersonic speeds but probably its not maintainable for him. On the other hand garou can even be light or relativistic level in terms of speed .He can also be damaged by bullets(since pickle took damage from a small gun ). Meanwhile garou tanked a stronger gun's (death shower) bullets with his technique. So it will not be close. And İ also dont think he really stopped that earthquake by completely matching its power. İ guess its more like a trick
the bullets part is debatable, since you have oliva taking direct shotgun shots and walk by without the slightest problem, like in the video spec taking even stronger shots to the face and nothing, pickle didnt get damaged by the gun shot, he took the bullet and shot it back with a flick of a finger, you aslo have pickle being able to open the mouth of a t-rex thats 431k psi, yes the baki characters have much bigger feats and all, but its still hard to compare it to baki since in one day they are not being famaged by tons of amunition, but then showing up with some injuries from a fight against some random dude who was only world class, the other day you have characters with the grip strenght to make diamonds meanwhile cant break an arm, characters reacting faster than the brain can even think about sending a message to the body, characters that can look at someone and instantly tell them their complete health condition with their weakpoints being highlighted, characters able to cut nerves, perform surgery without opening the body, overall some ridiculous feats that mean nothing when the characters happen to acctually fight
@@lol50edu93 Oliva took shotgun pellets but it did somewhat injure him. He needed to recover and heal from the injuries later. Spec got shot in the face but it was through the cheek which isn't a vital injury. It did however go completely through his face.
@@aqz7603 the spec one was the heavy iron balls, not the small gun thing, olive needed to recover but it was a early on scene compared to the rest, and mant characters have shown to be more resistant than oliva, that was the main point
About the bullet pickle thing, the hand gun damaged his skin but didn’t penetrate any deeper. We see this as pickle just touched his abs lightly and the bullets already drop on his hand. If the bullet penetrated into the flesh pickle have to dig in to get it out due the bullet spiraling a person insides creating ridges that it get stuck in. Not to mention, it is implied later that he took on the police, the military with multiple armored vehicles equipped with mounted guns.
@@Forsale379wdym? Garou wiped the floor with yujiro, yujiros earthquake feats was just due to him punching the ground at the right time And right angle at the exact moment. It had nothing to do with his strength, plus his lightning feat only makes him Massively hypersonic. Garous still mid-high diffs yujiro
Let's GOOOOO I wanted to see a video comparing the two! While I do disagree with Yujiro's Earthquake feat being invalid since you know... he literally did it with pure strength alone, I do honestly see HH Garou taking this dub.
Yacine does a great job, explaining the feats and skills and the pros and cons of each characters. Anything beyond human form for GAROU would be too much for YUJIRO to handle. GAROU in his human form at 100% going against a 100% YUJIRO would probably be YUJIRO's only bet to survive any of the offensive or defensive attacks GAROU throws at him. if GAROU was in his possessed state, when he first started to transform against the S class bodybuilder hero or any of his strongest forms all the way up to his monster form or his cosmic form it would be over before YUJIRO could blink or react at all. plus GAROU can literally have the same abilities as taskmaster from marvel, which means anything he sees he can perform as well either equally or superior to the person he saw doing it. meaning any attack that he has that is superior to YUJIRO he could use or he could use any of the attacks he sees YUJIRO doing, and just copy of the same moves. He saw him doing, and either equally use it just as powerful or make it even more powerful than he saw YUJIRO doing it. I mean in the novel book GAROU copied all of the serious punches and defense, and offense that SAITAMA had. And was equally as durable and physically, strong as he was for a while in the books, until SAITAMA had a superior upgrading ability which GAROU had as well it just wasn’t as fast as SAITAMA's was. so basically anything beyond human form of GAROU would be too much for YUJIRO to handle because at one point in the books as far as skill and abilities go GAROU was basically SAITAMA.
The thing is baki being almost "realistic" doesn't really put out much of a fight against characters who's purely fictional. If both were put in the ring garou wins easily.
@@danijeleljackson2180 let's compare a slice of life 14 year old teen character to a Bible's Satan then Who the hell even makes these power scaling things? Like, make them make sense atleast lmao
i thought the calc was pretty well done , Thank you for the efforts , i actually saw the user and i remember seeing you in the comment sections early when i was at 2K Subs , again Thank you
@@YacineScales No problem man, I'm probably going to join the discord later. Also, yeah! The first video I saw from you was Goketsu vs Darkshine, which I think was your latest video back when I watched it. So I've been here for a while lol
S class for Yajiro is kinda pushing it. He is more on the Mid to high A lvl if anything. Most S class can destroy skyscrapers with singular attacks. Yajiro has never come close to lvling a building in 1 punch let alone a city block. Even in the martial arts tournament in OPM, Suiryu was only consider around high A class and he snapped the arena in half for fun.
People who say Yujiro stopping the earthquake with a punch is an outlier feat seem to forget how he CAUSED a mini earthquake in a skyscraper just by getting angry
@@DefNotHacks is an feat tho, it just not that famous, even I forgot about it, is considered a feat and it happened Ignoring the feats of other to show how OP the other is means how much the wanking on other characters is shown
Technically Gojo can’t perceive Tatsumaki’s esp. Since it’s not curse technique so he wouldn’t pick it up to automatically defend like other visible threats. And she out ranges him by a large margin, as she can summon meteors. This really low balling, would mean she can influence things at least on the Mesosphere while on surface level footing. So even if one argue Gojo can use infinity and domain expansion against her, he‘d have to get close to her in the first place. Not to mention there’s nothing stopping her from flying up and tossing him into space. He can block everything she throws, but the nothing of space is going to kill him.
You forget when he punched the glasses in the fighting arena that shattered the rock, the speed and power that’s required to make something that light make that impact is exponentially greater
bro there is nothing more annoying than people putting overpowered characters into verses that weren't written to be planetary jizzfests and then salivate over how the character no diffs the whole verse.. no shit sherlock... Itagaki can literally wake up next day and write a chapter that says that Yujiro is actually much stronger and eats planets throughout the year, but always shrinks, nerfs himself to have fun on earth.. Seriously who even asked for Yujiro vs Garou fight? Completly different stuff
Let's just say, Musashi is slightly below Yujiro, but Atomic Samurai is way above Musashi. Silver Fang is above Atomic Samurai, while Bomb is near Silver Fang's level, Genos is quite a beast and blasted a mountain easily in S1, A class heroes were at least Baki Top tier character's level while B class is below average Baki fighter (Idk maybe below Ali Jr.), and that Dog-Man is op af Yet Garou survived all of them in continuous battle including a kick from Saitama, is this even a question?
The way I see inconsistencies, and the reason I dislike them even tho is almost inevitable to have some, is that the inconsistency divides the character power scaling into different possibilities of what you want to consider true or not, none of those possibilities being actually wrong, in the sense that is not wrong to say dragon ball characters can't destroy the universe just by fighting normally and at the same time is not wrong to say they can, cause they have both feats that prove it and anti feats that disprove it. Taking this into consideration, It feels so pointless seeing so much people arguing calling each other stupid when they are both technically right and is just a problem of inconsistency, lack of specific explanation or lack of serious consideration of power scaling from part of the author.
Some authors are really concerned with power scaling and just wants to make a good story so inconsistencies are inevitable, treating power scaling as a binary is stupid
There’s a hero that shoots lightning (lightning max) and he’s middle high of A class, and metal bat is confirmed to be faster than genos was at the start of the show, and he bodied metal bat, so even if yujiro dodged lighting and garou can’t dodge light, garou is still quite a bit faster
My brother in Christ what on earth could you possibly be talking about ? Lightning max (and you even said he's A class) bodied metal bat? Why haven't you seeked help yet, just let others know and I'm sure someone could help you with your uh.. mental degeneracy. The fact that you're here should have made it obvious as this one happens to be a shit powerscaler as well. Outright ignores metal bat getting faster and stronger and landing shots making Garou's arms go numb lol and just like a vacous moron says "metal bat lands so strikes at all". Being a powerscaler involves looking into how the author writes around powercreep, much more detailed analysis of fights and character motivations as well. But hey it everyone's gotta start somewhere right, even if it's at the very bottom of the trash. Also, Metal bat would have killed Garou right there if metal bat's sister hadn't intervened..
i think you forget in fact of resistance, yurijiro has beaten american army as a teenager. Yuichiro canonically survived getting bombed by at least 1000 tons of ammunition for an extended period of time, which would include missiles and high explosives
If their physical stats are the exact same the fight would be extremely close but Yujiro would win since Garou needs to first observe his opponent's moves for a while before learning the art as seen in the fight with watchdog man, he was getting violated and only after taking a good beating did he manage to learn the art
Stats equalized still depend on his version as his technique, copying speed, and adaptability drastically improve at peak human, half monster, and awakened monster (let’s not even mention cosmic). Early human garou is losing
Dam, the fact that you were using K' team theme makes you a real one. Apart of that yeah, even while being a huge fan of baki and opm, my vote will go always for Garou.
Imagine if these two are fighting and all of a sudden we got narrator explain how soup taste like, what happened when deer saw a lion, how human ball work and all random shit that have nothing to do with current situation and wasting 24 min of the episode.
I feel like if yujiro ended up in the opm universe, he would be able to get so much stronger. The only reason why he is so weak in comparison is that there is nothing yujiro can do in the baki universe to get stronger.
Please do human form Amai Mask vs current Puri Puri Prisoner. Both occupy the bottom of the S class roster. Both can easily one shot a demon level monster with one attack. Both survived many Cadre attacks in the M.A. arc but were ultimately fodder to Cadres as well. Both are brute force fighters with superhuman regeneration abilities. I honestly think this is the most interesting matchup you can do when it comes to (spoiler alert) human vs monster matchups.
Amai Mask much above in human form than Prisoner. Amai Mask was able to tank Fuhrer Ugly attacks while he screamed like a girl. Also regenerat when he was torn apart.
Personally, I would give the fight to Garou if stats are included, because his low-end estimates are roughly equivalent to Yujiro's high-end scaling, and his high-end scaling takes the whole verse. If stats are equalized and skill is the only factor, I would give it to Yujiro but not by a large margin. Yujiro has better feats of martial art skill, better feats of martial art copying, and is overall a better fighter; however, Garou is no slouch, and his ability to copy Yujiro's techniques as Yujiro copies his means that the gap between them would fluctuate rapidly, with Garou holding on but not quite keeping up.
Yurjio copies techniques leagues better than garou can. Garou’s technique copying is rather mediocre for the Baku universe. MOST characters are able to do it more efficiently than current garou can. 16 year Baki learnt how to do it better than garou can and he figured it out overnight. Even non martial artist like biscuit was able to master different techniques using the imagination technique, a practise where someone learns and perfects a martial arts by imagining himself fighting someone who uses the martial arts. Baki can currently do it better than biscuit and Yurjio describes Baki as a waste of time. Only the most recent chapters where Baki is at his strongest does Yurjio show some respect to Baki. Yet he beats the shit out of Baki so effortlessly that Baki fucking summons the spirit of his grandfather to encourage him to NOT die 😂 Yurjio is a whole other league to garou.
@@zzodysseuszz While I am not well-versed in how the demon back works, I am familiar with a number of times a character has been stated to be invincible, and yet was not. Invincibility in Vs. debates is very tricky, and IMO it is the easiest subject to unintentionally apply a No Limits Fallacy. Yujiro may very well have an ability to reflect damage, but without a specific explanation of how it functions, I can't accept that it would make him invincible, only that it increases his durability. I would also like to say that when it comes to their martial skill, I'll have to disagree. I do agree that Yujiro is a better fighter, but Garou has learned, perfected, and even improved upon other people's fighting styles after just seeing them once. Again, Yujiro is the better fighter, I just think the gap between them is smaller than you do.
Ive seen idiots say yujiro is a better martial artist than garou and act like just because tiktok is stupid enough its a fact, then i have to humble them
Actually the earthquake isnt considered canon since, and ill tell you why, the younger yujiro that fought baki as a 13 year old, stopped a Magnitude 6 earthquake, which is town level, or 15 kilotons of force, but when near current baki got hit by imaginary yujiro, it made a earthquake, a Magnitude 4, which is city block level, or 15 tons of force, so let's say baki is around city block level, hitting himself against a wall hard enough to knock him out, and if you do not know, 1000 tons is 1 kiloton, so how many times stronger is baki's feat vs yujiro's feats, yujiro's feat is literally 1000x that of baki's feat, and yujiro said himself that he gets stronger every day, not by a lot, but he does by little, so just like how a man grabbed onto a door handle as yujiro did, and overpowered him easily, those moments in the early age of baki manga, are massively inconsistent moments and aren't considered canon. (If your wondering in terms strength, yujiro is probably much stronger then Any A Class below Rank 4, in speed he's comparable to the A Class Rank 2 to 4, much slower to Rank 1 A Class since his considered an S Class and is far stronger they any A Class)
@@aegon2632 i said its considered, plus you know that guy in the early stages of baki held a door handle that yujiro was holding at overpowered him easy? Yeah, that was jack hanma, if you didnt know that, the creator of baki was still figuring out his character, and that was Jack hanma's first appears, so like him punching the earth quake, its not valid and inconsistent with current feats of baki
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 it an anti feat when an imaginary yujiro is not even at place doing these things with one blow an anti feat? Also we see i believe baki terribly misjudge charakters fighting them saying Statements like "They're above anything i imagined" or ect it's not an anti feat and if you try and argue it's only he caused that feat ones isn't also logical as in fiction they don't only focus on causing the destruction around them but the fight. We also have indications and straight up a statement that outs yujiro around the best Destructive Technology and another feat which is a bit redicilious
@@scp-682hard-to-destroy-rep6 Listen, this is how baki's imaginary works, something punches his face hard, something imaginary, the brain thinks its so real, that a bruise envelopes, like that, so when imaginary yujiro punched baki, every cell in baki's body pulled and slammed himself onto the wall like if yujiro actually punched baki
@@scp-682hard-to-destroy-rep6 Oh wait, are you saying that im saying that imaginary yujiro punching baki and baki slamming himself into a wall as hard as if yujiro actually punched baki, making an earthquake, isnt considered canon?, well your wrong, i didnt say that, im pretty clear that that feat is valid, im saying yujiro stopping a magntiude 6 earthquake with a punch is invalid, because its literally 1000x STRONGER THEN BAKIS FEAT, and that was yujiro 4 years younger, and if you didnt know, yujiro said he gets stronger every single day, very small amount, but he does, and just like when the creator of baki introducing jack hanma for the first time, and jack hanma easily overpowering yujiro by holding a door handle and twisting yujiros arm, that was jack hanma if you didnt know, the creator of baki hadnt fully realize his character yet, and that was in the manga, so just like the magnitude 6 earthquake feat, it aint canon
Yujiro would say that garou is weaker than Baki, then walk through him shattering all the bones in his body (the narrator would explain how this makes sense because yujiro is capable of walking faster than the speed of light)
Tank top master in manga fought against Gums and Ugly Furer. Gums is mid Dragon and Furer is High Dragon Tank top master survived, put a good fight, stopped Furer's serious punch and only broke his hands, which puts him at mid lvl Dragon too, cause if Tank top was a low Dragon or a High Demon he would be oneshoted by Furer. There it goes that Dragon lvls is a threat to a multiple cities and one city in opm like Russia in cizes that already beyond all Baki verse could show. That's put TTM on a Multi-Continental lvl strength and durability and base Garou low diffs him which put him heavily higher than TTM The conclusion is even if we count dodging lighting and stopping and earthquake town lvl in sizes as a valid Yujiro still nowhere near to even a small country lvl don't even mention Russia lvl which is 1/6 of all Earth (excluding oceans) Garou oneshots him literally, and he turns into the blood dust cause Garou even in his base is multi continental too.
Technically Baki verse highest highball is Yujiro upscaling massively from Olivia shaking the world and changing all GPS systems around the globe, which would be small country level at least. Making Demon Back Yujiro possibly in the continental ranges, and of course the casual lighting dodge making him MHS+. But if we take Garou highballs in speed and power, then Garou can't damage Yujiro but Yujiro has no chanse of hitting Garou, and that is the highest of highballs for both xd. But yeah if we take consistent scaling, Garou smokes the verse no cobsept of dif.
@@bayard6954I constantly see comments along this line, for all sorts of verses. Trying to scale off the most retarded outlier stuff to wank as much as possible. As someone who cares a lot about narrative consistency, it irks me. A lot.
I agree that he would never survive anything like that, but he could certainly harm people to that extent to that of Genos. Garou was able to immedialty defeat the Tanktop master when he used his Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist, which Tanktop Master is stronger than Puri Puri Prisoner, who was able to fight the Deep Sea King for a while when he was dehydrated. In the VHS, a Virtual Home System player, which was used by Genos to test put other heros and monsters strength, Metal Bat stated he didn't have his fighting spirit in the simulator, which his fighting spirit makes him stronger each second of the fight and causes him to fight as long as he doesn't die and even without this, he was able to fight and hold his own against Carnage Kabuto, a dragon level threat, who was able to effortlessly blitz and one shot Genos even in base form. Though he didn't have his fighting spirit in the simulation, his fighting spirit is always prevalent when fighting against monsters and heros, when he did have access to his fighting spirit, which makes him much stronger and faster, he 1 shot Senior Centipede, a demon level threat. After taking a heavy amount of damage by Elder Centipede, a Dragon level threat, and Garou, a demon level threat, which is how he gets stronger and faster. He was still not able to land a blow against Garou, but if he did land a single blow, Muruta himself, the illustrator for One Punch Man, stated that Metal Bat would have killed Garou if the final blow connected, by the way, the final blow from Metal Bat was stopped by his little sister since she didn't like seeing violence. With this information, since even genos couldn't defeat many demon level monsters in the beginning of the series, I believe its safe to say that even a base Metal Bat, or a Metal Bat with mo powerups,could defeat Genos in season 1, or in the beginning of the series, the same Genos who caused an explosion that could destroy a large town level, or the destructive power of 156-650~ kilotons of tnt. Genos was able to survive his own blast since Carnage Kabuto was able to deflect Genos's incineration canon back to him. Metal Bat was able to survive against Carnage Kabuto much longer than Genos, meaning that Metal Bat should have much better durability than Genos at this point of time, which Metal Bat was hindered by not having his fighting spirit. But it's good to note that Carnage Kabuto plays with his victims, as he did that regularly with Genos. Either way, it's basically implied as soon as Carnage Kabuto went Carnage mode, Metal Bat lost. Even though I think he got stronger during the fight, his fighting spirit makes that ability stronger. Garou was able to fight metal bat and serverly damaged him. Even if we give him his fighting spirit while he was fighting Carnage Kabuto, this is still extremely impressive as he was able to keep up with Metal Bat and even outspeed him, while Metal Bat kept up with Carnage Kabuto who serverly blitzed Genos. This means that garou should be extremely faster than Genos, who was massively hypersonic at this point as he was able to easily defeat the Deep Sea King and Mosquito Girl, and they should be faster then lighting quite easily, and mosquito girl was calculated to be Mach 500+. Carnage Kabuto easily beating Genos who can take his own incineration cannon, while Metal Bat took much more of a beating then Genos when he fought Carnage Kabuto, and with all of this, Metal Bat was able to keep up with Carnage Kabuto in speed and strentgh wise for 4 minutes. This proof means that Metal Bat would also be able to defeat Genos easily, even blitz, and probably defeat him in less than 4 blows at that time. Garou, who fought an arguably stronger metal bat, was stated to get serious damage if metal bats' final blow was going to connect, not kill him, but seriously injure him. Garou was also able to beat Metal Bat, who was a lot stronger and more durable, to the point where he was on the ground basically unconscious for a while. This means that Metal Bat is also at the bare minimum, large town level, which Garou would also be at here. While looking at interviews from One and Muruta, to be fair I didn't look at all of them, I never saw any of them talking about how Senior Centipede could take all of Genos's blast, but I definitely heard about that statement, it might be just Metal Bat hype, but I will look for more since I don't know why anyone would just make that up. Either way, Choze has been calced to be town level+ due to him producing a massive energy blast. I believe Garou would be able to defeat Suiryo, let alone Choze. With that being said, my reasoning is that because Garou has a much better understanding of martial arts, Suriyu has not really good feats, his speed is iffy, and the fact that in one of the simulations garou was able to easily block any attack Suriyo threw at him with just normal blocks. With this being said, Garou would definitely be able to beat Suriyo, especially since DC is not a Suiryu's specialty or any martial artist in One Punch Man for that area, except for Cosmic Fear Garou. Meanwhile, Genos specifically specializes in DC, which he can survive any or most of his own attacks, which Metal Bat can easily overpower, which garou is relative to. Muruta even said Genos blew up the mountain or something along those lines when asked about the House of Evolution feat in a tweet, the feat in question is when Genos was able to blow up a portion of a mountain, but Muruta said he believes he could destroy a mountain. The Choze calc is different in other versions, as Choze in the anime is calculated to be large city level. With all the upgrades Genos got after him being calculated to be large town level, it's not out of place to say when he fought those monsters in the simulation, hee was city level. For speed, it's clear that garou is certainly faster than lighting. Garou was able to keep up with Genos, who might have been holding back his speed, but I don't really know. But, when he did go all put, Genos seemed a faster than Metal Bat, who Garou was clearly faster then. My reasoning is because Elder Centipede caught them both, but at the same time, Genos did more damage, but that's only because he went inside of Elder Centipede and using his most powerful attack there, he also stabbed elder centipedes eyes out. I looked at the fight again, and actually, it seemed Elder Centipede was more scared of Metal Bat than Genos. Garou fought an even more powerful and faster metal bat. For more concrete scaling, lightning max was stated to be lightning speed, while the Deep Sea King was able to blitz him, who Genos was able to beat a hydrated version of him, who Metal Bat would be able to blitz, who Garou was able to outsepeed an even more powerful and faster version of him. The lightspeed scaling is circulating because 2 characters were stated to be faster than light or attack at light speed levels, while Genos was able to react to both of them, it's also very important to note that Genos was much weaker when he fought both characters that were stated to be light speed, since he took 1 of their parts and upgraded himself with it. Either way, Garou fought characters who beat characters who would be able to blitz characters who are lightning timers, especially if we take the Metal Bat route, Garou can be really fast. It usually takes someone being 8x faster to blitz someone, and if lightning max is as fast as lightning, his reaction speed should be the same for various reasons. Then, Garou should be with all variables accounted for, at least Mach 22 000. This is not accounting for the fact that hydrated Deep Sea King would be faster then dehydrated Deep Sea King, in fact maybe even a blitz teir above himself as he was able to easily catch up to sonic who blitzed dehydrated Deep Sea King, who then got outspeed by Genos, who then got blitzed by Carnage Kabuto, who then got his speed matched by Metal Bat, who then got outspeed by Garou who fought an even stronger version of Metal Bat. So, all in all, 2 characters were stated to be faster or light speed who fought Genos who said nothing about those statements or how they were wrong, Garou has shown he was incredibly fast by my proof, and his attack potency should at the bare minimum be large town level. But I believe garou is relavistic to light speed and city-large city levels.
Bro i swear when it comes to people who watch opm and baki they always glaze yujiro like i saw an animation of someone saying yujiro could go toe to toe with monster garou and then later in the animation he was able to tank a punch from saitama and beat genos in a one on one he is so glazed😭
i think this debate really counts on which version of garou you’re using in this. pre transformed garou im not sure who would win, but transformed garou slams imo.
I could maybe see Yujiro being the strongest c class hero if he took up being one but yeah the gap between was series is insane. Monsterification is his only real option to compete with the higher tiers.
I believe that if we were to have yujiro transition into the One Punch Man series, the training yujiro would have done in baki would make yujiro strong like Garo. Saitama did 100 push-ups, squats, and set-ups, as well as 10k running. I think we can say yujiro did something of the sort.
@@Casey-Onesaitma didn't break his limiter due to intensity, even other OPM characters called his training mild While we don't know why he broke his limiter it's likely connected to emotions and the mind
@@Casey-One Saitama broke his limiter with that not because the training was incredible, but because it was more than Saitama specifically could handle. Saitama kept at it, and instead of growing naturally and stretching and pushing his limit, he immediately started doing things that were way past his limit. That's what broke his limiter. Yujiro doing the same workout would do nothing. He would have to do a workout that's so out of his scope of capability that it would be considered impossible for Yujiro to do by any sane human being.
It depends on what time period Garou we pick. If it's before or at the end of fighting bang then Garou has no reason to be put against Yujiro because Garou would be eliminated on the spot but after bang and at the cowboys and hero's fight then Garou wins
The thing is, Yujiro would not want to one shot garou and most likely will play with him, gradually upping the tempo and increasing his power. Which is, as you know, a fatal error when fighting Garou. Before Yujiro would realise it, he wouldn't be able to kill/knock Garou unconcious with a single strike anymore and would take the fight seriously, but at that point it would be too late. Garous rate of growth would be too much for Yujiro.
Here's the greatest summary as to why Garou wins: Yujiro follows bullshit logic in the Baki universe but Garous follows absolutely no logic at all within the OPM universe, thus Garou wins because he is not even restrained by logic.
@@DefNotHacks They didn't say that, they're saying that its hard to compare one thing to another with their scaling is different. OPM scaling is REALLY fucking goofy.
In The baki anime, yujiro tells the general to use any weapon or tactic against him, including nukes. If yujiro can withstand a nuke, i think that would vastly improve his durability for the fight. But… i still think garou wins because opm is opm. I think bang would have been a closer fight
Yujiro's techniques require Yujiro's physique. Meaning Garou physically can't copy them, even if he knows how to do them. Yujiro would be the only one of the two copying anything. Yujiro has even greater durability feats than you mentioned, such as tanking bombardment from the United States military. Bombs, guns, nuclear explosives, they threw everything they had at him. And Yujiro (and also Baki) both get stronger as they fight against strong opponents. It's just easier to forget that with Yujiro because he's already the strongest in his verse. But I think those things, combined with his insane battle IQ, would mean that he'd eventually overtake human Garou. His strength and speed would absolutely scale up to match and surpass Garou's if put in a situation where he not only sees Garou in action but is on the receiving end of Garou's attacks.
I don't think Yujiro himself would ever lie about anything regarding his strength, he knows precisely how strong he is and how strong anyone around him is and not to mention that Yujiro's feats weren't done with top effort, he did them with ease.
If Yujiro have time to live in OPM verse he fastly become more and more powerful. Because being an ultimate creature in all his blood and thoughts Give him month and Garou will not have a chance
Nah he would be only darkshine level. Garou and Saitama break their limeter and become the strongest. Because Saitama was weak and he's limits was lower than any other characters. Which is the reason he break he's limeter by simple training. On other hand garou fought too much strong opponent than him and push himself death everytime he fight with someone. He needs only night to break he's limeter. It's show how much he fights. Simply it's defend on your limit how much strong you can be. Yujiro was already strong. If he tried to push himself as garou he will die or going to hospital.
Considering that Yujiro Hamma was so powerful that the world government would rather be on good terms with him over dropping a nuke on him pretty much proves that him stopping an earthquake with a punch is real and wasn't over exaggerated. People who say that Genos dodging the lairs of G4 isn't light speed cause they bend need to do research cause in real life light does bend so it still counts as light speed.
@@ArielNMz they could have brought him to an isolated area where it wouldn't have caused a mess and would keep civilians out of harms way, but they didn't which implies that they themselves don't believe that their nukes are strong enough to even harm him.
@@jordandavilabrown294 japanese government had a conversation about killing yujiro, and it seemed pretty plausible. They basically accepted that yujiro might be able to be killed by a sniper, so a nuke would definitely work. The reason they didn't try it was because yujiro has so many connections to countries, so killing him would cause chaos around the world.
@@kwbran 1. the sniper part would only work if he was off guard 2. While you are not wrong about his connections to other countries it doesn't dismiss the argument that he is stronger than a nuke. In chapter 182 of Hamma Baki the USA president believed that if Yujiro is stronger than a nuke then his grip alone would be able to turn coal into a diamond which he did.
@@jordandavilabrown294 Yeah, a sniper would only work if he is off guard, but so would a nuke. You said that nukes aren't believed to be strong enough to harm him, but that isn't the case. Even if he was on guard with a nuke coming at him. if a sniper bullet can damage him at all, he has absolutely no defense against a nuke. He can't just block the heat of the sun if he knows it is coming.
Little funfact: most of the feats that were given to garou were when he was either poisoned,asleep,had a fever,or was either not injuried or severly injuried,at every point in the series he seems to be exactly that except when he becomes cosmic,yujiro is lucky this is ONLY human garou and not semi-monster garou,garous rage mode wouldndt even be fair / brief monsterification
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What anime on 8:55?
You forgot about Shari what is just better than Garou,s water technique. He can deflect and parry any punch without damage instead of garou
I have a question for you, big fella. Could Platinum Sperm speedblitz Tatsumaki? If not, could he even beat her at all?
Baki verse is pretty much "Normal" in comparision with Opm verse in matter of scalling. Just to u know, mosquito girl ( on her peak) who is considered a weakling currently, would be easily top tier in baki verse.
Your damn right what a vampire
Mosquito girl wouldnt suck off them to death since baki characters have infinite blood supply.
But we all know world class athletes are garbage in the Baki verse
baki carracter will just produce more blood in their body wiitj=h power of immagination@@BLACK80085
@@BLACK80085Your right, but it would be hell of a tortue getting your blood sucked out endlessley
it's also interesting to note, that Yujiro never deflects bullets with his hands but always dodges them entirely by getting out of their trajectory, including pistol calibers and intermediate m-16 caliber bullets But Garou on the other hand deflected a massive barrage of *high caliber* minigun bullets from like 10 yards away without a single step sideways which indicates that Garou's bone, tendon, muscle & skin toughness is way stronger then that of yujiro and thus can tank far more damage
While I agree that Garous physicality is stronger, I think his technique and willpower comes into play even more
@@Josda69 he was not able to tank them bombs, he was able to dodge and avoid their blast waves / if he was able to tank such bombs, he would never even bother dodging bullets, but those would just bounce off him like with Superman
also Musashi would never be able to cut Yujiro's neck even a bit if he had a body tough enough to resist plane bombs
@@Josda69 having skin burn does not mean direct hit from a plane bomb / be reasonable here, Yujiro is the type to take hits just to flex, If a plane bomb cannot destroy him then neither would a bullet get into his body nor that heavy arrow that that archer shot at him at point black & Yet he never allows a bullet to hit him & and he grabbed that arrow with his hand before the arrow tip reached his skin, Why ????
if the bullet deflects on impact on his body or if the arrow breaks on impact, surely he would flex on that too and yet...
He Does not, he avoids the bullets, therefor is highly likely he did get hit directly by those plane bombs and if he did and if he could tank them, then surely the author would make sure we got that message across in detail
I too know that Itagaki's "logic" is all over the place, But in terms of dodging bullets he is very consistent with yujiro and baki / the one exception is Oliva with his massive muscle's catching shotgun hail, but that's not meant to go deep and nowhere near the same as an intermediate cartridge let alone a heavy calibre
@@Josda69 yeah, but the claim that he directly tanked a plane bomb is just your assumption not a direct detailed confirmation of Itagaki / if he could tank bullets, surely that would be shown too along with the dodging
Sure he survived a plane bombardment of an area by dodging the bombs and avoiding the close proximity of the explosions and probably might've avoided or deflected the shrapnel too, but a direct hit ???? No that requires a solid statement from the author which there is not
@@Josda69 highly possible to you, highly unlikely to me, or else we'd see at least some scenes of him tanking up bullets or arrows or other stuff, But he always dodges them, Why ???
Cause they can most likely kill him and go through him while garou deflected a whole barage with technique and his bare hands without taking one side step, shows that the latter has a more tougher body and thus could tank up more damage then Yujiro
who on earth claimed that yujiro beats garou
many baki stans believe it or not
@@jonasfadi8213 no they don't bro is arguing with ghosts
@@jpegofanm8780I've seen it multiple times
Yujiro is beating base garou
@@_Yombo now I have
I just like the fact that the powerup comparason to Yujiro's demon back for Garou is just "is healthy"
Yeah since it’s supposed to just be human garou, there isn’t really any forms he has
Or power up techniques
@@Seraphim-rh7vh yeah but if we were talking about monster garou tho...
Garou's "fully slept for 8 hours and ate breakfast" powerup
@@darealrexrandom that’s a whole nother story brother 💀
Basically to summarize the video. Garou wins either way.
Only way the fights even close is if you give Yujiro the benefit of the doubt and give him full benefit of his contested feats, but don’t do the same for Garou. Otherwise Garou stomps hard.
I envy you if yk what I mean
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And ofc yall don't even give my man Yujiro that. This video was literally made by an opm fan to shit on Baki. Brother lowballed every feat Yujiro showed and glazed Garou. Same with this community just a bunch of opm fans glazing one another.
@@rashi2832 this vid literally gave Yujiro EVERY benefit of the doubt. Baki fans are just cringe.
@@hazardous8301 You really said cringe as if to prove a point, opm fans are clearly retarded af. Yall see flashy characters who shoot lasers at monsters and think it's sick or badass in any kinda way. Literally the worst manga ever fucking written, the only reason it was made was to compete with the likes of dbz. In which it still gets fucking clapped. This video did NOT give Yujiro every benefit, bro took away all of his feats saying they could be real but they're probably not so therefore Yujiro loses. In which case yall are brain dead if you think the strongest character in the verse doesn't have feats like this when it's stated.
Yujiro is extremely strong by normal human standards. Garou is extremely strong by superhuman standards. They're not remotely in the same league of power.
Fax
remember when genos said saitamas super intense training schedule was just average training for the average man? thats proof even opm's citizens are low superhumans themselves
@@nic_____ saitama had a low ceiling for his limiter because he was not born strong. A person like saitama became because his limiter was easy to break
@aurelian2668 I wanna say something kinda funny about opm universe.
I think people in the verse have over time tried to skip training to gain power that somehow while the idea of training is known people don't do it.
We got saitama who trained and became much stronger but later on there's a character that takes saitama's tip and he actually does skyrocket in power.
So what if everyone is just skipping training and have the potential (probably not to saitama' level but like A class from normal citizen)
@@nic_____the opm wank is fuckin insane
It’s like comparing a Pitbull to a chihuahua that thinks it’s a Pitbull, except the chihuahua is a Pitbull
So Pitbull vs Pibull with the spirit of a chihuahua
@@Chariotrequiemiscoolok pretty much
@@bazofikiuh no. You guys don’t fucking read Baki and it’s embarrassing. Yujiro is literally garou on crack. Garou when he fought bang for the last time was mediocre compared to most characters in current baki. The only difference is Yusuke murata draws a more flashy spectacle when they punch. Like adding explosions or something. At 16 he (Yurjio) dodges bullets from several different gunmen and took them out before the bullets hit the wall. He’s also able to escape a building and run around it for an ambush before the shots hit the wall only 4-5ft from where they fired from. Deflecting bullets is childsplay for Baki. MOST characters right now can do that. Also throwing a giant boulder doesn’t mean much. At all. Hanayama was able to one punch a moving armoured military vehicle with ease. Yurjio also folded him into a pretzel after breaking his limbs. literally. A weaker Yurjio.
Remember the giant monster elephant? The ENTIRE American army was not able to even scratch it after hours of constant artillery barrages and hundreds of tons of explosives. Yurjio speed blitzed it and LITERALLY folded it into a pretzel. S class heroes are defined by their ability to rival a nations army. Think about that for 2 seconds. Dude. Seriously. I have read opm several times, you’re just embarrassing yourselves here. Yurjio was punching with more force than the equivalent of the entire American armies military arsenal being fired for hours altogether. These are strawmans of Yurjio to make garou look good.
Copying martial arts is Yurjio’s ENTIRE FUCKING SHTICK and he can do it BETTER than garou does. He canonically can instantly learn any martial arts by looking at someone. He doesn’t need to practise it, he doesn’t need to see it, he doesn’t even need to know about it. Like do you people not realise he canonically can learn any martial arts by fighting a user of it in his imagination? Did you forget that was a power he has and uses? Garou gets completely stomped in this fight. It’s not even a competition.
it's a pitbull vs a much faster and stronger pitbull
@@DefNotHacksbring dfa tiger
Garou would also keep evolving as he goes like he did when fighting Bang and Bomb, which would make him winning even more viable. Any of his half monster forms after human Garou would easily demolish Yujiro let alone his full monster. Yujiro should be able to compete with Tank Top Master and Puri Puri Prisoner which would put him in low S class.
The whole point of the video is to compare human garou and yujiro.
@gandsproductions5105 I know but human garou would continually get stronger so it would only be a debate for the first part of the fight. I am very curious how powerful human Garou is now in the Manga or if he will get stronger without monsterizing in the future.
@slade3361 but human garou didn't really get stronger like how he did when he monsterized. He adapted, which is addressed in the video.
Also, I'm not saying yujiro would beat garou, opm just has higher scaling. The only way I could see that happening is if he learns water stream rock smashing fist.
Even then there is simply no contest. Garo is close to light speed. Yujiro isn't even 200mph+
Not even 1 million percent the speed of Garo basically.
And yes that speed is for human Garo.
Really love your powerscaling videos, you take into account the whole story and try to back up a claim with other feats. This way you can properly scale a character without having to worry about misstranslations or story inconsistencies.
No he doesn’t lmao. Yurjio is potentially more powerful than garou but this dumbass ignored about every important detail
One of human Garou's best durability feat that most don't remember is him tanking a full powered punch from Tank Top Master, the same Tank Top Master that threw a building at Boros's ship. Reaction speed, come on he deflected machine gun shots from Death Gantling, plus Garou is a genius he'll just copy whatever martial art Yujiro has and he can spam Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist to deflect and redirect any of Yujiro's strongest punches. So it's obvious who's winning.
so like... did you watch the video
@@gaat_chris4960I did and he's god damm right
@@gaat_chris4960Yeah, Garou slaps
@@gaat_chris4960 garou slaps yujiro butts hardly that yujiro crying for his mama 😂😂
You guys don’t fucking read Baki and it’s embarrassing. My guy yujiro can move faster than sound easily. At 16 he dodges bullets from several different gunmen and took them out before the bullets hit the wall. He’s also able to escape a building and run around it for an ambush before the shots hit the wall only 4-5ft from where they fired from. Deflecting bullets is childsplay for Baki. MOST characters right now can do that. Also throwing a giant boulder doesn’t mean much. At all. Hanayama was able to one punch a moving armoured military vehicle with ease. Yurjio also folded him into a pretzel after breaking his limbs. literally. A weaker Yurjio.
Remember the giant moms tee elephant? The ENTIRE American army was not able to even scratch it after hours of constant artillery barrages and hundreds of tons of explosives. Yurjio speed blitzed it and LITERALLY folded it into a pretzel. S class heroes are defined by their ability to rival a nations army. Think about that for 2 seconds. Dude. Seriously. I have read opm several times, you’re just embarrassing yourself here. Yurjio was punching with more force than the equivalent of the entire American armies military arsenal being fired for hours.
Copying martial arts is Yurjio’s ENTIRE FUCKING SHTICK and he can do it BETTER than garou does. He canonically can instantly learn any martial arts by looking at someone. He doesn’t need to practise it, he doesn’t need to see it, he doesn’t even need to know about it. Like do you people not realise he canonically can learn any martial arts by fighting a user of it in his imagination? Did you forget that was a power he has and uses? Garou gets completely stomped in this fight. It’s not even a competition.
I wouldn't consider Yujiro not causing earthquakes later on to be an anti-feat. Characters rarely deal the maximum collateral damage they could with every single attack. More so an inconsistency that comes with fictional fighting in general.
Exactly that. Its that stupid argument again were people beliefe DBS characters are only building lvl since they only destroy buildings. People should remember attack potency doesn't equal area of effect or destructive capability.
@@matthiasrauert8397does no one know what ki control is
@@matthiasrauert8397 Plus, AOE suppression has to be assumed for very powerful characters.
@@duncanmcokiner4242 Thats just the thing. I have never seen a fighting anime were they don't suppres their aoe when fighting.
Just doesn't make sense to constantly blow up the surrounding when u are just trying to defeat one guy.
@@matthiasrauert8397 I write one of my own, yet to be published, and I take it into account by having the powerhouses use joint locks and chokeholds that don't generate shockwaves like their strikes would.
Bruh u gotta love how OPM statements and feats are always taken seriously and not up to debate like other manga
Yeah the artist actually has the ability to show the power in the characters abilities when so much just say a statement
Exactly. When something is said in the narration, it means it. The only exceptions are gag moments like when Saitama was hurt by a cat scratch lol
No debate necessary when the feats are literally shown as they are.
@@foundationuser5043yeah it means it but it’s still wrong. I.e. awakened cockroach being faster than light. Obviously it’s not faster than light.
@@norrecvizharan1177no feats are shown with an exaggerated style. They’re not to be taken seriously.
I feel like this channel is peak "I made a youtube channels just to prove my buddy wrong in an argument" and it's fantastic.
The copy techniques thing is similar to "If a mind reader reads another mind readers mind whos mind is being read?"
Though I'd say that it isn't the same.
My brain just exploded. Well done. Gonna be working through that one all day
The mind reader obviously 😁
Yujiro can copy techniques better
The one who's thinking.
Yujiro's earthquake punch wasn't an anti-feat. It's a legit feat. He's also survived a lightning bolt directly to the head and seemed like he didn't even notice.
Garou still absolutely stomps the shit out of him. No sells him.
But Yujiro is still a monster.
No, Yujiro could actually avoid the lighting, but just tanked it... For some reason. Maybe he knew it would look cool as hell
@@zannchristo I don't see what you're saying "no" to when we basically said the same thing. Although it wasn't stated he could have avoided it, either way he seemed like he didn't notice.
No sell no diff mid diff high diff can we stop with the corny lingo?
@@Blue-df3zz No.
yea he did yugiro kinda trash in this vid. i still sorta think garou would win
Even as a human Garou solos Baki verse.
imagine Red Spiral Garou!!!
@@mrsketchysketch680he's still human in my book and half semi monsters don't really exist
Sweet mask is a monster
You guys don’t read Baki. Like if any of you clowns actually read Baki you’d realise how fucking wrong you are but none of you do.
Yeah your tweaking
@@bigbuba5212Humans don’t regenerate from a hole in their torso, or from a complete shattered ribcage in an instant just to keep fighting even stronger seconds later. Spiral garou is a half-monster, its stated in the manga. Your “books” are wrong
Baki characters are very inconsistent and their feats prove this. Garou being a OPM character and one that ends up fighting Saitama should show that he bodies anyone in the Baki verse.
yeah. also, OPM has surprisingly consistent scaling compared with everyone else. no offense to DB or baki.
Garou is basically the DOOMSDAY from DC because of his Reactive Evolution he can get stronger and faster after receiving a lot of damage and can copy skills and techniques with just a simple glance of his eyes and memorizing his opponents fighting style just by adapting to them.
Yurjio literally does the same thing but better. You people need to read both mangas when you do this shit seriously it’s embarrassing.
My guy, Yurjio can instantly learn any martial arts by fucking IMAGINING himself fighting someone with the technique. IM. NOT. EXAGGERATING.
Your comment is just describing Yurjio but worse. Since Yurjio can do all of that but far more advanced.
Indeed Garou is the only other character in OPM verse that is really going to break its limiter. His last fight was planet busting size, even if he was upgraded by God. My opinion is that Garou is still able to reach and surpass this power level by himself, given the right conditions. God in reality acts just like a super monster cell: big power up, but stop to evolution
Yuijro has the same ability. He can copy any move by seeing it once.
@@calmmoon777 they share a lot of moves the problem is thanks to genos garou scales to (lowballing) a good percentage of lightspeed we know this because he out sped genos who out sped the light beams genos also before upgrades blew the top of a mountain off and then had to tank his own beam got upgraded lost to seaking who tanked his beam and then got even more upgrades and beats seaking(simulation) AND THEN LOSES TO GAROU not to mention garous crazy endurance as while sick injured sleep deprived and defending a child he clutched a 6v1 and casually deflected minigun rounds
Tldr garou is close to light speed is stronger than a heavily upgraded genos and has cracked endurance
@@livingbruhmoment5355Genos have speed sound reaction and moving speed, he was dodjing direction of beams, and not the beams, stop talking bs
love the content, be carful about anything anything baki related that's translated by wild fang (Ichido). He's been exposed making up translations, scamming people and more
I literally watch your content everysingle time you upload , and yes i noticed so many mistranslations , especially when i watched the anime , since i somehow understand japanese , i tried to double check everything but its just overwhelming, thank you so much for commenting MysteriousWeeb , made my day
A very strong guy against someone who fought 8 heroes while deathly hurt, sick, poisoned and tired before fighting a cyborg capable of destroying mountains and the 2 best martial artist in the entire world at the same time
Great matchup😃👍
Lets not forget that Garou has his Fist of Flowing Water copied by Orochi, *King of Monster* , yet he was able to last for a surprisingly good amount of time
Garou would basically be the equivalent to Yujiro but wayyy stronger if he was in the baki verse, idk why ppl overrate baki verse
No. 😂 most characters in Baki have the same skill set as garou but they do it way better than he does. Even fodder characters have reached bullet deflecting speeds. Garou is the Baki equivalent of Motobe. Without his inhuman strength and speed garou has actually nothing that’s impressive in the Baki universe. He’s good at martial arts compared to average person, but compared to the average fighter he’s fodder. And current Yurjio is already impressive enough to be top 5 s class. AVERAGE yujiro, meaning the Yurjio who never tries, is never using his full arsenal, is never really worried ever when fighting anybody. I can go on. S class are defined by their ability to rival a nations military. The entire American military fired their entire arsenal for hours on a giant monster elephant and didn’t even scratch it meanwhile Yurjio broke its limbs with a single punch each and folded it into a pretzel. This monster elephant would’ve demon level in opm. It was immune to thousands of tons of artillery. Didn’t even make it blink.
They can’t match up to most battle mangas but in straight martial arts/ hands matches they go pretty far in fiction
@@zzodysseuszzagain garou has insane feats such as no selling mountain top destroying attacks and being = to light speed his A.P is >/= to said mountain attacks as he can damage genos and rip his arms off (said genos is easily able to tank his own beams)
@@zzodysseuszzlol again with the US military example, my guy a single S class hero would easily make fodder all of the military in the Bakiverse, OPM verse doesn't have military for a reason, a normal demon level monster can destroy entire cities easily, OPM verse completely out scales Bakiverse, the entire Baki verse would be A class at best, and you still wanna compare a big elephant to something like the deep sea king who can move faster than rain drops lol
@@zzodysseuszz this is insane delusion yujiro would be top 10 of A class he cannot beat a single S class
I like Baki, but the fans overrate every character, Baki characters are powerful but not invincible like the fans hype them to be
Yujiro is A class at best, he can't even go pass amai or Iaian
Even A class is a bit much to be honest@@Selaviaa2003
@@Selaviaa2003yeah. A class caped baldy claps👏
@@Selaviaa2003 Amai >>>> Iaian > Spring Mustachio >> Yujiro >= Stinger/Death Gatling.
@@insanef7481 i dont really remember spring mustachio feats but I think it's not that great is it? Yujiro might be stronger than him by a small margin
Garou alone (and human Garou at that) solos all of Baki. It’s just a fact. In fact there’s weaker characters from OPM that would destroy Yujiro.
U gave no feats since what u said is not trye
@@evilnaruto9229
Sorry I don’t speak idiot. Talk with someone else.
@@evilnaruto9229prove it
Garou's reaction, speed, and durability is beyond the Baki verse
@@bigbuba5212 human garou at the start of the series struggles badly with yujiro he would get killed
@@Jordan-sd7rh we're talking about peak human garou
At lightspeed you can travel around the world 7 times in less than a second, that's why the arguments of characters like Awakened Cockroach or G4 Genos dodging "light" have no real basis as they obviously aren't as fast.
Awakened Cockroach had his increased senses that allowed him to predict danger and move accordingly (like a spider-sense). And this wouldn't mean he can fight or move at lightspeed, it means he can predict attacks that go at lightspeed and move out of the way before he gets hit. But he can't move as fast as light.
Among the S class only Flashy Flash is currently proven to be only one to have lightspeed capabilities (and obviously Blast because he speedblitzed him).
Flashy fought Platinum and Monster Garou in less than a second all around Z city in the sky forming a big estructure of light that could be seen from other cities at least. (This goes more in line with how lightspeed would look in the real world as their fight happened in milliseconds).
Flashy was stated to be the fastest S class (excluding Blast in the Databook and Unknown if watchdogman could be as fast). But It makes sense given a lot of S class heroes had to work together to catch jet Psykorochi (compared to the fight of the speedsters is a Night and day difference in speed).
And goes without saying Flashy Flash is several times faster than what Awakened Cockroach or G4 ever were.
This is why the whole Awakened Cockroach and G4 Genos are faster than light is not really accurate.
EXACTLY, dodging light doesnt equal light speed
People that claim early Luffy is ftl need to read this, there is nothing in one piece that really even matches the speed of light except kizaru yet they scale early Luffy faster than light because he dodged a beam, in the world that has a specific power system for predicting and dodging stuff
@@DongbaekEGOSpicebush
Many people aren't ready to accept It.
But just because your favorite character can Dodge lasers that are "lightspeed" doesn't mean your favorite character can be lightspeed.
People sayin' Daredevil can react at a "peacosecond" yet Bullseye nails him with a paper plane.
Extremis Ironman reacting at the speed of thought.
Or whatever bs there Is One Piece.
Heck even most of Dragon Ball Z
People throw the "Faster than light" like nothing nowadays.
Tatsumaki is also FTL
@@YSleepish Then what is it
Yujiro was having a hard time with baki who can reach 168 mph with a special technique. He can reach hypersonic speeds but probably its not maintainable for him. On the other hand garou can even be light or relativistic level in terms of speed
.He can also be damaged by bullets(since pickle took damage from a small gun ). Meanwhile garou tanked a stronger gun's (death shower) bullets with his technique. So it will not be close. And İ also dont think he really stopped that earthquake by completely matching its power. İ guess its more like a trick
the bullets part is debatable, since you have oliva taking direct shotgun shots and walk by without the slightest problem, like in the video spec taking even stronger shots to the face and nothing, pickle didnt get damaged by the gun shot, he took the bullet and shot it back with a flick of a finger, you aslo have pickle being able to open the mouth of a t-rex thats 431k psi, yes the baki characters have much bigger feats and all, but its still hard to compare it to baki since in one day they are not being famaged by tons of amunition, but then showing up with some injuries from a fight against some random dude who was only world class, the other day you have characters with the grip strenght to make diamonds meanwhile cant break an arm, characters reacting faster than the brain can even think about sending a message to the body, characters that can look at someone and instantly tell them their complete health condition with their weakpoints being highlighted, characters able to cut nerves, perform surgery without opening the body, overall some ridiculous feats that mean nothing when the characters happen to acctually fight
@@lol50edu93 Oliva took shotgun pellets but it did somewhat injure him. He needed to recover and heal from the injuries later. Spec got shot in the face but it was through the cheek which isn't a vital injury. It did however go completely through his face.
@@aqz7603 the spec one was the heavy iron balls, not the small gun thing, olive needed to recover but it was a early on scene compared to the rest, and mant characters have shown to be more resistant than oliva, that was the main point
About the bullet pickle thing, the hand gun damaged his skin but didn’t penetrate any deeper. We see this as pickle just touched his abs lightly and the bullets already drop on his hand. If the bullet penetrated into the flesh pickle have to dig in to get it out due the bullet spiraling a person insides creating ridges that it get stuck in. Not to mention, it is implied later that he took on the police, the military with multiple armored vehicles equipped with mounted guns.
Oliva and pickle’s bullet damage were in fact injuries but they were very minor injuries so much so that it’s hardly considered as an injury.
human garou negetives...no need to watch full explanation.....well, but for you..i will watch full video'
As he said, it depends
@@Forsale379 ya bro...if we consider this earth quake thing and lightnings then ya still garou wins
@@Fire-Quartz_79 possibly
@@Forsale379wdym? Garou wiped the floor with yujiro, yujiros earthquake feats was just due to him punching the ground at the right time
And right angle at the exact moment. It had nothing to do with his strength, plus his lightning feat only makes him
Massively hypersonic. Garous still mid-high diffs yujiro
@@tyty3150 Earthquakes fade away, they don't stop at some point, wich happened in Yujiro's case
Let's GOOOOO I wanted to see a video comparing the two!
While I do disagree with Yujiro's Earthquake feat being invalid since you know... he literally did it with pure strength alone, I do honestly see HH Garou taking this dub.
Yacine does a great job, explaining the feats and skills and the pros and cons of each characters. Anything beyond human form for GAROU would be too much for YUJIRO to handle. GAROU in his human form at 100% going against a 100% YUJIRO would probably be YUJIRO's only bet to survive any of the offensive or defensive attacks GAROU throws at him. if GAROU was in his possessed state, when he first started to transform against the S class bodybuilder hero or any of his strongest forms all the way up to his monster form or his cosmic form it would be over before YUJIRO could blink or react at all. plus GAROU can literally have the same abilities as taskmaster from marvel, which means anything he sees he can perform as well either equally or superior to the person he saw doing it. meaning any attack that he has that is superior to YUJIRO he could use or he could use any of the attacks he sees YUJIRO doing, and just copy of the same moves. He saw him doing, and either equally use it just as powerful or make it even more powerful than he saw YUJIRO doing it. I mean in the novel book GAROU copied all of the serious punches and defense, and offense that SAITAMA had. And was equally as durable and physically, strong as he was for a while in the books, until SAITAMA had a superior upgrading ability which GAROU had as well it just wasn’t as fast as SAITAMA's was. so basically anything beyond human form of GAROU would be too much for YUJIRO to handle because at one point in the books as far as skill and abilities go GAROU was basically SAITAMA.
Another W vid keep going dude
The thing is baki being almost "realistic" doesn't really put out much of a fight against characters who's purely fictional. If both were put in the ring garou wins easily.
T. rex steak, super caveman, guy tanking a nuke, man turning into liquid…
Cope
I'm sorry but baki is too far from being considered "realistic".
@@luan6631 more realistic then one punch man, and that’s why that comparison makes zero sense
@@danijeleljackson2180 let's compare a slice of life 14 year old teen character to a Bible's Satan then
Who the hell even makes these power scaling things? Like, make them make sense atleast lmao
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Hey, that's my old Hammerhead calc.
I made that years ago, I don't even know if I agree with it anymore or not.
i thought the calc was pretty well done , Thank you for the efforts , i actually saw the user and i remember seeing you in the comment sections early when i was at 2K Subs , again Thank you
@@YacineScales No problem man, I'm probably going to join the discord later.
Also, yeah! The first video I saw from you was Goketsu vs Darkshine, which I think was your latest video back when I watched it. So I've been here for a while lol
S class for Yajiro is kinda pushing it. He is more on the Mid to high A lvl if anything. Most S class can destroy skyscrapers with singular attacks. Yajiro has never come close to lvling a building in 1 punch let alone a city block. Even in the martial arts tournament in OPM, Suiryu was only consider around high A class and he snapped the arena in half for fun.
People who say Yujiro stopping the earthquake with a punch is an outlier feat seem to forget how he CAUSED a mini earthquake in a skyscraper just by getting angry
blud has never heard of artistic effect
@@DefNotHacks he did shake that skycraper
@@TraxMaster_99 still an irrelevant feat
@@DefNotHacks is an feat tho, it just not that famous, even I forgot about it, is considered a feat and it happened
Ignoring the feats of other to show how OP the other is means how much the wanking on other characters is shown
@@TraxMaster_99 i'm not ignoring it, i'm just saying it's irrelevant. a building level feat is irrelevant when garou is is easily country level.
you take care okay
Thank's for using my art in beggining
0:07 there
Awesome video bro keep going 💪🔥
Joined your Discord bdw
Nice vid
Can you do gojo vs tatsumaki?
I wonder if gojo's infinity can outhax tatsumaki raw power
Technically Gojo can’t perceive Tatsumaki’s esp. Since it’s not curse technique so he wouldn’t pick it up to automatically defend like other visible threats. And she out ranges him by a large margin, as she can summon meteors. This really low balling, would mean she can influence things at least on the Mesosphere while on surface level footing. So even if one argue Gojo can use infinity and domain expansion against her, he‘d have to get close to her in the first place. Not to mention there’s nothing stopping her from flying up and tossing him into space. He can block everything she throws, but the nothing of space is going to kill him.
@@lynnusuk2092dude she could literally twist or turn him inside out😂😂😂, it's not even close
@@faithfulblase6731 yeah
Man, this hypothetical made me realize, Jack would 100% eat a monster cell of his own volition, and that makes me sad. :(
You forget when he punched the glasses in the fighting arena that shattered the rock, the speed and power that’s required to make something that light make that impact is exponentially greater
I like how even though the garou arc is over in the manga he still gets recognition and is still popular(I hope the garou hype stays he's badass)
If you talk about Garo as in him being as strong as peak human then he loses but if he is just "human" one punch man Garo then he wins
If Yujiro faced Garou he would just be a huge exp boost for that man
bro there is nothing more annoying than people putting overpowered characters into verses that weren't written to be planetary jizzfests and then salivate over how the character no diffs the whole verse.. no shit sherlock... Itagaki can literally wake up next day and write a chapter that says that Yujiro is actually much stronger and eats planets throughout the year, but always shrinks, nerfs himself to have fun on earth..
Seriously who even asked for Yujiro vs Garou fight? Completly different stuff
Let's just say, Musashi is slightly below Yujiro, but Atomic Samurai is way above Musashi.
Silver Fang is above Atomic Samurai, while Bomb is near Silver Fang's level, Genos is quite a beast and blasted a mountain easily in S1, A class heroes were at least Baki Top tier character's level while B class is below average Baki fighter (Idk maybe below Ali Jr.), and that Dog-Man is op af
Yet Garou survived all of them in continuous battle including a kick from Saitama, is this even a question?
This seems like a great match up. Would absolutely love to see a fan animation.
You can find one on TH-cam. Just Look for yujiro vs gaarou
garou would just one punch him lol
I once saw there was a fan animated series where Garou & Yujiro teamed up and worked together
found it! check Fufk Animation channel
gonna be like that one animation of saiyan saga Vegata fighting Eren lol
The way I see inconsistencies, and the reason I dislike them even tho is almost inevitable to have some, is that the inconsistency divides the character power scaling into different possibilities of what you want to consider true or not, none of those possibilities being actually wrong, in the sense that is not wrong to say dragon ball characters can't destroy the universe just by fighting normally and at the same time is not wrong to say they can, cause they have both feats that prove it and anti feats that disprove it. Taking this into consideration, It feels so pointless seeing so much people arguing calling each other stupid when they are both technically right and is just a problem of inconsistency, lack of specific explanation or lack of serious consideration of power scaling from part of the author.
Some authors are really concerned with power scaling and just wants to make a good story so inconsistencies are inevitable, treating power scaling as a binary is stupid
There’s a hero that shoots lightning (lightning max) and he’s middle high of A class, and metal bat is confirmed to be faster than genos was at the start of the show, and he bodied metal bat, so even if yujiro dodged lighting and garou can’t dodge light, garou is still quite a bit faster
My brother in Christ what on earth could you possibly be talking about ? Lightning max (and you even said he's A class) bodied metal bat? Why haven't you seeked help yet, just let others know and I'm sure someone could help you with your uh.. mental degeneracy. The fact that you're here should have made it obvious as this one happens to be a shit powerscaler as well. Outright ignores metal bat getting faster and stronger and landing shots making Garou's arms go numb lol and just like a vacous moron says "metal bat lands so strikes at all".
Being a powerscaler involves looking into how the author writes around powercreep, much more detailed analysis of fights and character motivations as well. But hey it everyone's gotta start somewhere right, even if it's at the very bottom of the trash. Also, Metal bat would have killed Garou right there if metal bat's sister hadn't intervened..
not really bodied, but bro put up some decent hands
Bruh even the first enemy in opm mosquito girl smacks baki universe xD
i think you forget in fact of resistance, yurijiro has beaten american army as a teenager. Yuichiro canonically survived getting bombed by at least 1000 tons of ammunition for an extended period of time, which would include missiles and high explosives
If we were to assume all the stuff about hanma to be true and highball him, it might actually be an interesting fight with him vs injured human garou.
Garou has so many challenges so many S class hero’s. Yujiro is unchallenged literally it would take someone from another verse to stop his shinanigans
the OPM verse scales higher than just about anything else. I think a better question would be who would win in an equal stats match up
Garou still violates
Garou destroy same way he did with tank top master
Yujiro is smarter and faster than tank top@@wargun09876
If their physical stats are the exact same the fight would be extremely close but Yujiro would win since Garou needs to first observe his opponent's moves for a while before learning the art as seen in the fight with watchdog man, he was getting violated and only after taking a good beating did he manage to learn the art
Stats equalized still depend on his version as his technique, copying speed, and adaptability drastically improve at peak human, half monster, and awakened monster (let’s not even mention cosmic). Early human garou is losing
Dam, the fact that you were using K' team theme makes you a real one.
Apart of that yeah, even while being a huge fan of baki and opm, my vote will go always for Garou.
Imagine if these two are fighting and all of a sudden we got narrator explain how soup taste like, what happened when deer saw a lion, how human ball work and all random shit that have nothing to do with current situation and wasting 24 min of the episode.
I feel like if yujiro ended up in the opm universe, he would be able to get so much stronger. The only reason why he is so weak in comparison is that there is nothing yujiro can do in the baki universe to get stronger.
And even then he still manages to. The Baki That fought Yujiro as an adult, was most likely stronger then the Yujiro he fought as a teenager.
@@themanysirs1814 probably
Please do human form Amai Mask vs current Puri Puri Prisoner. Both occupy the bottom of the S class roster. Both can easily one shot a demon level monster with one attack. Both survived many Cadre attacks in the M.A. arc but were ultimately fodder to Cadres as well. Both are brute force fighters with superhuman regeneration abilities. I honestly think this is the most interesting matchup you can do when it comes to (spoiler alert) human vs monster matchups.
Amai Mask much above in human form than Prisoner. Amai Mask was able to tank Fuhrer Ugly attacks while he screamed like a girl. Also regenerat when he was torn apart.
Personally, I would give the fight to Garou if stats are included, because his low-end estimates are roughly equivalent to Yujiro's high-end scaling, and his high-end scaling takes the whole verse. If stats are equalized and skill is the only factor, I would give it to Yujiro but not by a large margin. Yujiro has better feats of martial art skill, better feats of martial art copying, and is overall a better fighter; however, Garou is no slouch, and his ability to copy Yujiro's techniques as Yujiro copies his means that the gap between them would fluctuate rapidly, with Garou holding on but not quite keeping up.
Yurjio’s high end scaling includes his demon back, where he becomes immune to all damage.
Yurjio copies techniques leagues better than garou can. Garou’s technique copying is rather mediocre for the Baku universe. MOST characters are able to do it more efficiently than current garou can. 16 year Baki learnt how to do it better than garou can and he figured it out overnight. Even non martial artist like biscuit was able to master different techniques using the imagination technique, a practise where someone learns and perfects a martial arts by imagining himself fighting someone who uses the martial arts. Baki can currently do it better than biscuit and Yurjio describes Baki as a waste of time. Only the most recent chapters where Baki is at his strongest does Yurjio show some respect to Baki. Yet he beats the shit out of Baki so effortlessly that Baki fucking summons the spirit of his grandfather to encourage him to NOT die 😂 Yurjio is a whole other league to garou.
@@zzodysseuszz While I am not well-versed in how the demon back works, I am familiar with a number of times a character has been stated to be invincible, and yet was not. Invincibility in Vs. debates is very tricky, and IMO it is the easiest subject to unintentionally apply a No Limits Fallacy.
Yujiro may very well have an ability to reflect damage, but without a specific explanation of how it functions, I can't accept that it would make him invincible, only that it increases his durability.
I would also like to say that when it comes to their martial skill, I'll have to disagree. I do agree that Yujiro is a better fighter, but Garou has learned, perfected, and even improved upon other people's fighting styles after just seeing them once. Again, Yujiro is the better fighter, I just think the gap between them is smaller than you do.
Ive seen idiots say yujiro is a better martial artist than garou and act like just because tiktok is stupid enough its a fact, then i have to humble them
Keep up the good effort brother love this kinda stuff
2nd attempt at requesting for Genos vs Schwi (NGNL). I think it's a pretty interesting match up, hope you would cover this
Actually the earthquake isnt considered canon since, and ill tell you why, the younger yujiro that fought baki as a 13 year old, stopped a Magnitude 6 earthquake, which is town level, or 15 kilotons of force, but when near current baki got hit by imaginary yujiro, it made a earthquake, a Magnitude 4, which is city block level, or 15 tons of force, so let's say baki is around city block level, hitting himself against a wall hard enough to knock him out, and if you do not know, 1000 tons is 1 kiloton, so how many times stronger is baki's feat vs yujiro's feats, yujiro's feat is literally 1000x that of baki's feat, and yujiro said himself that he gets stronger every day, not by a lot, but he does by little, so just like how a man grabbed onto a door handle as yujiro did, and overpowered him easily, those moments in the early age of baki manga, are massively inconsistent moments and aren't considered canon. (If your wondering in terms strength, yujiro is probably much stronger then Any A Class below Rank 4, in speed he's comparable to the A Class Rank 2 to 4, much slower to Rank 1 A Class since his considered an S Class and is far stronger they any A Class)
Not canon? Its literally in the manga. 😭
@@aegon2632 i said its considered, plus you know that guy in the early stages of baki held a door handle that yujiro was holding at overpowered him easy? Yeah, that was jack hanma, if you didnt know that, the creator of baki was still figuring out his character, and that was Jack hanma's first appears, so like him punching the earth quake, its not valid and inconsistent with current feats of baki
@@HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 it an anti feat when an imaginary yujiro is not even at place doing these things with one blow an anti feat? Also we see i believe baki terribly misjudge charakters fighting them saying Statements like
"They're above anything i imagined" or ect it's not an anti feat and if you try and argue it's only he caused that feat ones isn't also logical as in fiction they don't only focus on causing the destruction around them but the fight. We also have indications and straight up a statement that outs yujiro around the best Destructive Technology and another feat which is a bit redicilious
@@scp-682hard-to-destroy-rep6 Listen, this is how baki's imaginary works, something punches his face hard, something imaginary, the brain thinks its so real, that a bruise envelopes, like that, so when imaginary yujiro punched baki, every cell in baki's body pulled and slammed himself onto the wall like if yujiro actually punched baki
@@scp-682hard-to-destroy-rep6 Oh wait, are you saying that im saying that imaginary yujiro punching baki and baki slamming himself into a wall as hard as if yujiro actually punched baki, making an earthquake, isnt considered canon?, well your wrong, i didnt say that, im pretty clear that that feat is valid, im saying yujiro stopping a magntiude 6 earthquake with a punch is invalid, because its literally 1000x STRONGER THEN BAKIS FEAT, and that was yujiro 4 years younger, and if you didnt know, yujiro said he gets stronger every single day, very small amount, but he does, and just like when the creator of baki introducing jack hanma for the first time, and jack hanma easily overpowering yujiro by holding a door handle and twisting yujiros arm, that was jack hanma if you didnt know, the creator of baki hadnt fully realize his character yet, and that was in the manga, so just like the magnitude 6 earthquake feat, it aint canon
Can you do garou vs amai mask both human forms
Yujiro would say that garou is weaker than Baki, then walk through him shattering all the bones in his body (the narrator would explain how this makes sense because yujiro is capable of walking faster than the speed of light)
Yujiro has plot armor, yes
But Garou DIED and was alive
That's more plot armor than Yujiro would ever have
Keep going your videos are really good
*Peak Monster* Garou vs Yujiro *Demon Back* 🙏💀
You must hate Yujiro
Tank top master in manga fought against Gums and Ugly Furer. Gums is mid Dragon and Furer is High Dragon Tank top master survived, put a good fight, stopped Furer's serious punch and only broke his hands, which puts him at mid lvl Dragon too, cause if Tank top was a low Dragon or a High Demon he would be oneshoted by Furer.
There it goes that Dragon lvls is a threat to a multiple cities and one city in opm like Russia in cizes that already beyond all Baki verse could show.
That's put TTM on a Multi-Continental lvl strength and durability and base Garou low diffs him which put him heavily higher than TTM
The conclusion is even if we count dodging lighting and stopping and earthquake town lvl in sizes as a valid Yujiro still nowhere near to even a small country lvl don't even mention Russia lvl which is 1/6 of all Earth (excluding oceans) Garou oneshots him literally, and he turns into the blood dust cause Garou even in his base is multi continental too.
Damn but TTM on multi continental level? So Darkshine who is much stronger is planetary? What about Tatsumaki? 💀
That's a stronger version of TTM after the Garou fight I believe
Technically Baki verse highest highball is Yujiro upscaling massively from Olivia shaking the world and changing all GPS systems around the globe, which would be small country level at least. Making Demon Back Yujiro possibly in the continental ranges, and of course the casual lighting dodge making him MHS+. But if we take Garou highballs in speed and power, then Garou can't damage Yujiro but Yujiro has no chanse of hitting Garou, and that is the highest of highballs for both xd. But yeah if we take consistent scaling, Garou smokes the verse no cobsept of dif.
Continental level Baki? That's the most cursed thing I've ever heard of
@@bayard6954I constantly see comments along this line, for all sorts of verses. Trying to scale off the most retarded outlier stuff to wank as much as possible.
As someone who cares a lot about narrative consistency, it irks me. A lot.
@@bayard6954 yeah, as I said if ya wanna wank it you can get it to that level xd
@@bayard6954 ikr small building to building seems more accurate
@@abid7255it really isn’t. They reached past building level real life years ago
Yujiro beats that doggy punching bag
I agree that he would never survive anything like that, but he could certainly harm people to that extent to that of Genos. Garou was able to immedialty defeat the Tanktop master when he used his Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist, which Tanktop Master is stronger than Puri Puri Prisoner, who was able to fight the Deep Sea King for a while when he was dehydrated. In the VHS, a Virtual Home System player, which was used by Genos to test put other heros and monsters strength, Metal Bat stated he didn't have his fighting spirit in the simulator, which his fighting spirit makes him stronger each second of the fight and causes him to fight as long as he doesn't die and even without this, he was able to fight and hold his own against Carnage Kabuto, a dragon level threat, who was able to effortlessly blitz and one shot Genos even in base form. Though he didn't have his fighting spirit in the simulation, his fighting spirit is always prevalent when fighting against monsters and heros, when he did have access to his fighting spirit, which makes him much stronger and faster, he 1 shot Senior Centipede, a demon level threat. After taking a heavy amount of damage by Elder Centipede, a Dragon level threat, and Garou, a demon level threat, which is how he gets stronger and faster. He was still not able to land a blow against Garou, but if he did land a single blow, Muruta himself, the illustrator for One Punch Man, stated that Metal Bat would have killed Garou if the final blow connected, by the way, the final blow from Metal Bat was stopped by his little sister since she didn't like seeing violence. With this information, since even genos couldn't defeat many demon level monsters in the beginning of the series, I believe its safe to say that even a base Metal Bat, or a Metal Bat with mo powerups,could defeat Genos in season 1, or in the beginning of the series, the same Genos who caused an explosion that could destroy a large town level, or the destructive power of 156-650~ kilotons of tnt. Genos was able to survive his own blast since Carnage Kabuto was able to deflect Genos's incineration canon back to him. Metal Bat was able to survive against Carnage Kabuto much longer than Genos, meaning that Metal Bat should have much better durability than Genos at this point of time, which Metal Bat was hindered by not having his fighting spirit. But it's good to note that Carnage Kabuto plays with his victims, as he did that regularly with Genos. Either way, it's basically implied as soon as Carnage Kabuto went Carnage mode, Metal Bat lost. Even though I think he got stronger during the fight, his fighting spirit makes that ability stronger. Garou was able to fight
metal bat and serverly damaged him. Even if we give him his fighting spirit while he was fighting Carnage Kabuto, this is still extremely impressive as he was able to keep up with Metal Bat and even outspeed him, while Metal Bat kept up with Carnage Kabuto who serverly blitzed Genos. This means that garou should be extremely faster than Genos, who was massively hypersonic at this point as he was able to easily defeat the Deep Sea King and Mosquito Girl, and they should be faster then lighting quite easily, and mosquito girl was calculated to be Mach 500+. Carnage Kabuto easily beating Genos who can take his own incineration cannon, while Metal Bat took much more of a beating then Genos when he fought Carnage Kabuto, and with all of this, Metal Bat was able to keep up with Carnage Kabuto in speed and strentgh wise for 4 minutes. This proof means that Metal Bat would also be able to defeat Genos easily, even blitz, and probably defeat him in less than 4 blows at that time. Garou, who fought an arguably stronger metal bat, was stated to get serious damage if metal bats' final blow was going to connect, not kill him, but seriously injure him. Garou was also able to beat Metal Bat, who was a lot stronger and more durable, to the point where he was on the ground basically unconscious for a while. This means that Metal Bat is also at the bare minimum, large town level, which Garou would also be at here. While looking at interviews from One and Muruta, to be fair I didn't look at all of them, I never saw any of them talking about how Senior Centipede could take all of Genos's blast, but I definitely heard about that statement, it might be just Metal Bat hype, but I will look for more since I don't know why anyone would just make that up. Either way, Choze has been calced to be town level+ due to him producing a massive energy blast. I believe Garou would be able to defeat Suiryo, let alone Choze. With that being said, my reasoning is that because Garou has a much better understanding of martial arts, Suriyu has not really good feats, his speed is iffy, and the fact that in one of the simulations garou was able to easily block any attack Suriyo threw at him with just normal blocks. With this being said, Garou would definitely be able to beat Suriyo, especially since DC is not a Suiryu's specialty or any martial artist in One Punch Man for that area, except for Cosmic Fear Garou. Meanwhile, Genos specifically specializes in DC, which he can survive any or most of his own attacks, which Metal Bat can easily overpower, which garou is relative to. Muruta even said Genos blew up the mountain or something along those lines when asked about the House of Evolution feat in a tweet, the feat in question is when Genos was able to blow up a portion of a mountain, but Muruta said he believes he could destroy a mountain. The Choze calc is different in other versions, as Choze in the anime is calculated to be large city level. With all the upgrades Genos got after him being calculated to be large town level, it's not out of place to say when he fought those monsters in the simulation, hee was city level. For speed, it's clear that garou is certainly faster than lighting. Garou was able to keep up with Genos, who might have been holding back his speed, but I don't really know. But, when he did go all put, Genos seemed a faster than Metal Bat, who Garou was clearly faster then. My reasoning is because Elder Centipede caught them both, but at the same time, Genos did more damage, but that's only because he went inside of Elder Centipede and using his most powerful attack there, he also stabbed elder centipedes eyes out. I looked at the fight again, and actually, it seemed Elder Centipede was more scared of Metal Bat than Genos. Garou fought an even more powerful and faster metal bat. For more concrete scaling, lightning max was stated to be lightning speed, while the Deep Sea King was able to blitz him, who Genos was able to beat a hydrated version of him, who Metal Bat would be able to blitz, who Garou was able to outsepeed an even more powerful and faster version of him. The lightspeed scaling is circulating because 2 characters were stated to be faster than light or attack at light speed levels, while Genos was able to react to both of them, it's also very important to note that Genos was much weaker when he fought both characters that were stated to be light speed, since he took 1 of their parts and upgraded himself with it. Either way, Garou fought characters who beat characters who would be able to blitz characters who are lightning timers, especially if we take the Metal Bat route, Garou can be really fast. It usually takes someone being 8x faster to blitz someone, and if lightning max is as fast as lightning, his reaction speed should be the same for various reasons. Then, Garou should be with all variables accounted for, at least Mach 22 000. This is not accounting for the fact that hydrated Deep Sea King would be faster then dehydrated Deep Sea King, in fact maybe even a blitz teir above himself as he was able to easily catch up to sonic who blitzed dehydrated Deep Sea King, who then got outspeed by Genos, who then got blitzed by Carnage Kabuto, who then got his speed matched by Metal Bat, who then got outspeed by Garou who fought an even stronger version of Metal Bat. So, all in all, 2 characters were stated to be faster or light speed who fought Genos who said nothing about those statements or how they were wrong, Garou has shown he was incredibly fast by my proof, and his attack potency should at the bare minimum be large town level. But I believe garou is relavistic to light speed and city-large city levels.
Bro i swear when it comes to people who watch opm and baki they always glaze yujiro like i saw an animation of someone saying yujiro could go toe to toe with monster garou and then later in the animation he was able to tank a punch from saitama and beat genos in a one on one he is so glazed😭
i think this debate really counts on which version of garou you’re using in this. pre transformed garou im not sure who would win, but transformed garou slams imo.
bro its in the title. "Why Yujiro Hanma Vs Human Garou Isn't Close"
Reading helps know
@@yoda-memes ah i misread. point still stands for those who debate it though.
Transformed garou relied on techniques he stole which Yurjio could just steal from garou by looking at him since yujiro passively steals techniques
@@zzodysseuszzyeah but he can't match base Garou, Dark shine vs Yujiro would be a bit more fair I think
My 2 fav characters of anime ❤
Garou slams great video
i like ur explanation, u based it on the evidence, not on some bias bs, new sub here!
Garou when Yujiro counters water stream rock smashing fist with a technique passed down through generations of monks residing in the mountains:
Garou Violates everyone in the Baki verse.
I’ve never seen someone meat ride and reach this far,I love baki but yujiro going in c class and getting stomped by any main character in opm💀
That's what I'm saying, yujiro ain't beating sweet mask or fubuki who basically gatekeepers a and b lol
He surely isn’t going in c class he’s Atleast S class easily
Fubuki gets blitzed by Yujiro bro cope@@pspsmallz
@@evilnaruto9229 your copium addiction is a problem bru, yujiro not beating anyone with powers like that
@@evilnaruto9229 he’s top 10 of A class at best
I could maybe see Yujiro being the strongest c class hero if he took up being one but yeah the gap between was series is insane. Monsterification is his only real option to compete with the higher tiers.
I believe that if we were to have yujiro transition into the One Punch Man series, the training yujiro would have done in baki would make yujiro strong like Garo. Saitama did 100 push-ups, squats, and set-ups, as well as 10k running. I think we can say yujiro did something of the sort.
@@Casey-Onesaitma didn't break his limiter due to intensity, even other OPM characters called his training mild
While we don't know why he broke his limiter it's likely connected to emotions and the mind
@@Casey-One Saitama broke his limiter with that not because the training was incredible, but because it was more than Saitama specifically could handle. Saitama kept at it, and instead of growing naturally and stretching and pushing his limit, he immediately started doing things that were way past his limit. That's what broke his limiter. Yujiro doing the same workout would do nothing. He would have to do a workout that's so out of his scope of capability that it would be considered impossible for Yujiro to do by any sane human being.
Great video
at the end of the day king solos both of them
no way yall think yujiro wins 💀
Fr bro they don’t even know Opm and try a stupid debate 😭🙏
@@pixxel_fire 😭😭
It depends on what time period Garou we pick. If it's before or at the end of fighting bang then Garou has no reason to be put against Yujiro because Garou would be eliminated on the spot but after bang and at the cowboys and hero's fight then Garou wins
The thing is, Yujiro would not want to one shot garou and most likely will play with him, gradually upping the tempo and increasing his power. Which is, as you know, a fatal error when fighting Garou. Before Yujiro would realise it, he wouldn't be able to kill/knock Garou unconcious with a single strike anymore and would take the fight seriously, but at that point it would be too late. Garous rate of growth would be too much for Yujiro.
I’m surprised nobody brought up that yujiro walked through bulletproof glass from walking speed
He still struggles to walk through it.
Here's the greatest summary as to why Garou wins: Yujiro follows bullshit logic in the Baki universe but Garous follows absolutely no logic at all within the OPM universe, thus Garou wins because he is not even restrained by logic.
As I every time say : Nobody can really compare two fictional characters because the power scales are totally different
so by your logic... MCU captain america can beat cosmic garou because their power scales are different?
@@DefNotHacks They didn't say that, they're saying that its hard to compare one thing to another with their scaling is different. OPM scaling is REALLY fucking goofy.
@@DefNotHacks no
@@AgentMk07 scaling isn't that inconsistent throughout OPM. how so?
Garou just destroys Yujiro in seconds
In The baki anime, yujiro tells the general to use any weapon or tactic against him, including nukes. If yujiro can withstand a nuke, i think that would vastly improve his durability for the fight.
But… i still think garou wins because opm is opm.
I think bang would have been a closer fight
Bang would be even worse, Bang at his current old age is still stronger than awakened Garou lol
i dont think that he meant even nukes but ok
yujiro vs bang would
not even be a fight bang would easily win
lets be honest, whenever the narrator chimes in about some bullshit feat or technique, it's pretty much over for who ever is fighting Yujiro
as a Baki fan, i can proudly say that Yujiro gets absolutely violated by Garou
Bruuuuhhhh. He is low A class at best. Every S class stomps baki verse no diff.
High A maybe
@@bigbuba5212 not close
Yujiro's techniques require Yujiro's physique. Meaning Garou physically can't copy them, even if he knows how to do them. Yujiro would be the only one of the two copying anything. Yujiro has even greater durability feats than you mentioned, such as tanking bombardment from the United States military. Bombs, guns, nuclear explosives, they threw everything they had at him. And Yujiro (and also Baki) both get stronger as they fight against strong opponents. It's just easier to forget that with Yujiro because he's already the strongest in his verse. But I think those things, combined with his insane battle IQ, would mean that he'd eventually overtake human Garou. His strength and speed would absolutely scale up to match and surpass Garou's if put in a situation where he not only sees Garou in action but is on the receiving end of Garou's attacks.
yujiro didn’t tank any nukes or plane bombardments
I like the comparison of "one has his demon back, the other is healthy."
I don't think Yujiro himself would ever lie about anything regarding his strength, he knows precisely how strong he is and how strong anyone around him is and not to mention that Yujiro's feats weren't done with top effort, he did them with ease.
If Yujiro have time to live in OPM verse he fastly become more and more powerful. Because being an ultimate creature in all his blood and thoughts
Give him month and Garou will not have a chance
Nah he would be only darkshine level. Garou and Saitama break their limeter and become the strongest. Because Saitama was weak and he's limits was lower than any other characters. Which is the reason he break he's limeter by simple training.
On other hand garou fought too much strong opponent than him and push himself death everytime he fight with someone. He needs only night to break he's limeter. It's show how much he fights.
Simply it's defend on your limit how much strong you can be. Yujiro was already strong. If he tried to push himself as garou he will die or going to hospital.
saitama broke his limiter by doing the same thing garou did not becasue he was weak and his limiter was smaller
Considering that Yujiro Hamma was so powerful that the world government would rather be on good terms with him over dropping a nuke on him pretty much proves that him stopping an earthquake with a punch is real and wasn't over exaggerated.
People who say that Genos dodging the lairs of G4 isn't light speed cause they bend need to do research cause in real life light does bend so it still counts as light speed.
@@ArielNMz they could have brought him to an isolated area where it wouldn't have caused a mess and would keep civilians out of harms way, but they didn't which implies that they themselves don't believe that their nukes are strong enough to even harm him.
Nuclear weapons go from town to city level with none even coming close to mountain level.
@@jordandavilabrown294 japanese government had a conversation about killing yujiro, and it seemed pretty plausible. They basically accepted that yujiro might be able to be killed by a sniper, so a nuke would definitely work. The reason they didn't try it was because yujiro has so many connections to countries, so killing him would cause chaos around the world.
@@kwbran
1. the sniper part would only work if he was off guard
2. While you are not wrong about his connections to other countries it doesn't dismiss the argument that he is stronger than a nuke. In chapter 182 of Hamma Baki the USA president believed that if Yujiro is stronger than a nuke then his grip alone would be able to turn coal into a diamond which he did.
@@jordandavilabrown294 Yeah, a sniper would only work if he is off guard, but so would a nuke. You said that nukes aren't believed to be strong enough to harm him, but that isn't the case. Even if he was on guard with a nuke coming at him. if a sniper bullet can damage him at all, he has absolutely no defense against a nuke. He can't just block the heat of the sun if he knows it is coming.
yes
Little funfact:
most of the feats that were given to garou were when he was either poisoned,asleep,had a fever,or was either not injuried or severly injuried,at every point in the series he seems to be exactly that except when he becomes cosmic,yujiro is lucky this is ONLY human garou and not semi-monster garou,garous rage mode wouldndt even be fair / brief monsterification
Garou: *starts bleeding from the mouth mid fight*
Yujiro: HA I AM GONNA WIN
~*famous last words*~
It's the OPM universe. Everyone is cracked for no reason
The lightning part is false. There is a guy who survived 7 lightning strikes in his life