BILSTEIN B16 Coilovers On My BMW F80 M3 MY REVIEW - Best Coilovers For F80 M3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I share my honest review on Bilstein B16 coilovers on my BMW F80 M3. In my opinion, this is the BEST coilovers for F80 M3.
I wanted to give my honest review on the Bilstein B16 Coilovers that I installed a few months ago but I wanted to give it some time before I did. After a few thousand miles on the suspension, I wanted to make this video and explain my thought process on why I went from the KW HAS kit to the Bilstein B16 (PSS10) Coilovers.
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ANOTHA ONE! Solid video bro! See you this weekend 🙌
Thanks brother ! Appreciate it. Hopefully your mic and adapter came in !
Thanks for the thorough review and video. I'm debating between HAS kit and the B16's for my F80. Not going to track it yet but it looks like the B16s are well worth the investment.
No problem! If you were going to lowered your car to the Max then you may feel a little more bounce. I recently sat in my buddy's F80 With KW DDC and they are a lot more forgiving. Thanks for checking out the video
Thanks for the thorough review! Will get these B16’s
No problem! Appreciate you checking out the video 🤘
Watch all your videos. Enjoying the F80 content!
Thanks Mike! Appreciate it. Definitely motivates me to keep creating quality content
great video bro! the gopro footage shows how planted these this car is now! i love it!! Im getting these on ASAP!!
btw thanks for the shoutout haha
Not a problem! They are a great set of coilovers 💯
I experienced the same EDC-less function with the KW HAS at max drop “but” this was due to it being maxed to a height it was never intended to ride at. Reminded me of imports modded back in the 90s, floating, swaying, bouncy. With the KW HAS Once I added “preload” I literally gained minimal height but gained back my EDC functions. A LOT of F8x owners are lowering the KW or MPE HAS to the lowest setting without playing with proper preload. A properly dialed in suspension setup and proper alignment will make a car handle like night and day
Frank that is the absolute truth. There pretty much wasn't any preload after lowering the front to the max. Astheicly it looked amazing but I definitely the ride quality suffered. Great info, because a lot of F8x owners don't even factor that in when deciding what suspension to get, like myself lol.
Great video. First time watching. Subscribed. Well done! Thx.
Appreciate you subscribing and Appreciate the positive feedback 🙏🏻
That’s great that you put it in the right perspective in terms of how it works HAS vs B16. Now that B16’s how much did you pay just to have an idea, ball park so that kinda have an idea.
Check out this recent video where I give all three into perspective. I give all the price breakdowns and hopefully that will give you a better idea on what's best for you
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Dope video as always, definitely looking forward to meet up with the bmw invasion crew.
Appreciate it! We are glad to have you at the event 🦾🦾
Excellent info as usual and definitely for me to keep edc active, so no lowering springs for me and B16’s here we go, thanks to ur tech and informative vid, again kudos to @thedailydriven and see u at Viera High!!!!
Thanks Simon! Appreciate it. I'm glad you were able to go to the INVASION! Hope you had a blast !
The Daily Driven unfortunately a last minute, literally (6:30am) a family emergency changed our plans, next time hopefully. Thank God everything’s ok now. Can’t wait for all the videos and next invasion guys. Thanks again Ken 👍🙏🏻
No worries Simon. I hope the emergency was taken cared of. You'll have enough footage to be able to see it within the mext few weeks
Hey dude, great video. I've got a 440i without edc, I'm torn between the kw v3's or the bilstein b16, which would you recommend....or are their other options. Thanks and subbed 😊
Hey after having both. I would definitely go with the KWs. Isn't as harsh and there was more adjustability. Thanks for checking out the channel
Yeah you're right, keep the EDC!!!!!!!! Definitely going to keep that. So not doing kw.
Yes EDC 💯🤘🏻. But KW does have KW DDC coilovers that has edc. I made an install and review videos on the channel
Great video, great info!!!
Thanks brother 🙏. You've been there since day 1
Stance looks good
Thank you !
Man i wish i could lower the front i live in Puerto Rico and roads are not the best and the only way i could is if i take out front splitter and i like it too much its my daily. You showed my individual color the enzian blue as the example of the stock suspension.
I used to live in NYC and the roads up there were pretty horrible. maybe you can look into a cup kit that raises your car up 2 inches with the push of a button and you can still have upgraded suspension.
After 8 months on the B16, would have done anything differently? How is NVH compared to stock and the HAS kit? Would you say there more or less comfort vs. performance? Thanks 🙏 great videos. Keep doing F80 content. You should have like more than 10K subscribers 😎
After 8 months with the kit, I am leaning towards looking at the KW DDC eventually. I sat in a buddy of mine that has the KW DDC and it rides so much comfortable. I believe it has to do with the difference between them on how low each go. The KW DDC have the ability to go lower than the B16 and allow it to have a better rebound.
So this black friday, Ill be on the look out for a set of KW DDC (has the edc module). Overall I still enjoy the B16 10x times over the KW HAS KIT.
I appreciate you checking out the video and hopefully, i can reach 10K subs!
@@TheDailyDriven thanks 🙏 you deserve a lot more subscribers
Great vid. Question.. did you experience the float issue on the kw has before max drop ? Been considering that kit and setting up just a moderate drop for everyday use. Let me know. Keep up the great content.
The ride wasn't bad before the max drop.But if you're looking for everyday use its not bad.
I actually sat in another F80 M3 that had H&R VFT which is equivalent to the HAS kit and it was pretty comfortable and he's pretty slammed. His Instagram is nardogrey_f80.
But I will say these Bilstein B16 Coilovers ride so well. Appreciate the positive feedback 🙏.
I understand where you coming from when it come to ride comfort. My first build was an is300 on tein lowering spring I wasn’t a fan it but it work. I switch over to Truhart full suspension after while it was to hard and not comfortable to and the family. Right now on my current build. On my white e46 I have bc racing coilovers. The way it sit love it and very comfortable had the family in the car with taking turns hard and able to maneuver at bmw invasions rally it handled very welll
It's great to see others go through the same process with modding. I've heard amazing reviews about BC coilovers. Glad you came to the Rally. It was definitely an event to remember. Thanks for checking out the video 👏
The Daily Driven I won’t be able to make it to those this week due to car being rear ended but Hopefully it be ready for the next rally though
@@RichieRich12391 ahh that sucks. Hopefully your cad comes back soon and hopefully you didn't get hurt.
The Daily Driven i didn’t at all.
Hi I am thinking of putting the B16 on my 2018 M3 stock wheels to lower the front how low do you recommend as a good height for front and back? thanks for the video...
Just to give you an idea after less than a year I got rid of those coilovers and went on to the kwdd sequelivers. I'll list two videos down below that explain why.
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i own a 340i for almost 2 yrs now
wanting to lower my car with more of a porformance route and dont want it too low to where it would damage my front lip leaving my driveway that a downward steep dip
i think bilstein B16 will be perfect for me
The only downside if you lower the B16 to the lowest setting you'll have a more aggressive ride. Some people consider it harsh and some find it fine. Its ok on my end but i will say the KW DDC's are more comfortable.
The Daily Driven ok thanks
No problem 👍
I don’t care about lowering aesthetics I was more curious about if the B16 were left nearer stock height would they improve the comfort and reduce roll or is improved handling and comfort over uneven surfaces a foolish dream?
For what you're looking for, I'd look into Ohlins Road and Trade coilovers. The shop I go to installs them all the time for track cars and those cars are just slightly lower than stock to improve on handling and bodyroll. Unfortunately my channel is geared towards lowering aesthetics.
Hey man, great video!! I’m thinking of getting the B16 as well. Like everything but some reviews state clunking noices after some months. Have you experienced anything like this?? Thanks
Nope no clunking but if you had a little bit more in the budget, look into KW DDC...🤫 that's my next mod lol. Rides 10x better than the Bilstein's.
Very nice vid man! It helps a lot! I'm actually looking for coilover as well, so is this the one called Bilstein B16 damptronic? Cause the PSS10 has no EDC and the damptronic has etc, I'm a little confuse here.
Thanks Jay. Yes these set of coilovers are called B16 Damptronic. It has the EDC module that plugs right into the factory plugs
@@TheDailyDriven I just have it installed today, the cornering is very nice but its quite bumpy. Will it be feeling better after run in?
Height looks perfect for a daily...
Agreed. It definitely is great as a daily stance. Especially here in Florida
How is ground clearance with that setup? Are you scraping your front lip or even grinding pinch rails on steep entry / exits with drastic angle changes?
Surprisingly not really much scraping. There are some driveways and parking garages that I have to angle my way through.
@@TheDailyDriven GM bro. Long term review... how are the B16s holding up? I am going to order those or KW probably this week and need some reassurance please LOL 🙏🏾
Hello, sir .I'm so curious your BBS Lm setup.would your tires rub fender ?
Only on really hard dips on the highway. Other than that no issues !
How dialed in is the front end? Will a sway bar upgrade be necessary on top of the foil over upgrade? Cheers
It does pretty well. Def. feel more connected when driving with the Bilstein B16's. Sway bar isn't needed but it all depends on your taste at the end of the day.
Does any modifications to the suspension void warranty? My ZCP front ride height has a noticeable gap.
Good question, the only portion I can see it void is anything related to the vehicle's suspension. Like axles, shocks if you're going lowering springs and ect. The dealer can argue that lowering the car made ____ fail and therefore not covered. When it comes to your engine, it shouldn't void it since the suspension doesn't affect the components of the engine. But before you mod, always check with a professional. Hope that helps.
Do they make these for a 2016 340i? I couldn’t seem to find the right one.
Just bought the car and some new wheels but I think the suspension is lacking and I feel that would make it feel much more of a fun daily.
Thanks! Great review.
Yes they make the BIlstein B16's for the F30. Yes suspension is def, lacking on stock. You'll def. have a lot more fun with this suspension. Thanks for checking out the video and sorry for the delayed response.
Can you drop a link where you ordered from? I am seeing different prices and wanted to get a good vendor
I get all my parts from Euromotive Performance. Call then up and speak with Duwayne. Let him know Ken from TheDailyDriven reccomended. He'll get you a solid deal. He has multiple vendors that he can price with.
954-944-2779
@@TheDailyDriven thank you, just got off the phone with them. I will most likely be ordering with them soon
Awesome yeah he'll do the right thing to make sure the price you get is competitive. How low are you planning to go ? If you want to go even lower, I'd also look into KW DDC (has the EDC module) but only downside is it's more expensive. I sat in a buddy if mines and its slightly more comfortable.
How is the comfort compared to OEM? Was there any increase in NVH?
If youre looking for comfort, nothing beats the stock OEM on comfort. The ride with the B16 is MORE sporty and youll feel a lot more of the road imperfections. Ive recently sat in a F80 that had KW DDC and they were a lot more comfortable than the B16. I might have to switch it up soon.
@@TheDailyDriven thanks for your reply! Appreciate the honesty. More power to your channel
Will these coilovers fit on an M4?
Yes Bilstein makes a set for the M4's.
Did you use GC camber plates with the B16? If so, did you successfully transfer the rubber spring mount that sits between the top hat and the spring?
Yes, ended up going with GC camber plates. I'll have to check with the shop if they did. What would be the issue if they didn't?
@@TheDailyDriven That is what I am trying to figure out. Per the Bilstein instructions, you need to transfer over the OEM rubber hat so it sits between the top hat and the spring. You can check this yourself if you lift up the front end of your car. If the spring is just sitting near the top of the GC camber plate with no rubber in between, then this rubber wasn't transferred over. My rubber piece did not fit on the GC camber plate top hat so it wasn't used. Vorshlag has a different design so it would fit with their kit. Without the rubber piece, the spring freely moves without load on the car since there is no rubber piece in between the top hat and the spring. I can send you a picture of what I am talking about if you send me your email.
@@TheDailyDriven Btw, the issue here is metal on metal contact. Since there is no rubber in between, the GC top hat (metal) is making direct contact with the spring (also metal). So the issue is 1) Added harshness 2) Potentially damaging the GC camber plate/top hat during a hard impact 3) Potentially damaging the spring, but this is doubtful since I am sure the spring isn't the weak point.
@@hamann8070 Actually the way you just described it, the tech did complain on how much of a pain it was to make fit. He did use the OEM, i remember him trying the one it came with and we were puzzled on why it didnt fit. The way the GC plate fit with the OEM rubber hat is pretty horrible. Just looks out of place.
Hmm, "feels like on pillows"! Damn,...I drove a 2 stock M3s,...1 Comp and 1 non-Comp,...both on 20s, and the ride was buck-board stiff! How is it you have a "lowered" M3 that rides better than a Stock M3. Also,...about the roads you're on,....Dude, they are very well cared for, so that's a good thing for your area.
Edit: I'm feel'n that color a,..LOT!
Everyone has their own threshold regarding ride quality. There's really no universal way of describing it. Coming from the KW HAS kit it definitely made the ride a whole lot better. Appreciate you checking out the video