PMQs: Sunak accuses Greece of 'grandstanding' in Elgin Marbles row

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  • Sir Keir Starmer accused the prime minister of "losing his marbles" as Rishi Sunak said Greece's leader was "grandstanding" in a row over the Elgin Marbles.
    Mr Sunak looked uncomfortable as the Labour leader delivered one-liners and put-downs in exchanges over the diplomatic spat with Greece.
    The PM cancelled his meeting with Greece's leader at the last minute in a row over the return of the ancient artefacts.
    Sources say the Greek leader was left "baffled, surprised and not a little bit annoyed" amid reports Greece backtracked on assurances ministers would not attempt to discuss the fate of the treasures.
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ความคิดเห็น • 154

  • @cdeford2
    @cdeford2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    How dare Greece demand its property back.

    • @Motorhead538
      @Motorhead538 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don't want them keep it .... we need pizza🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕

    • @ECGuproax99
      @ECGuproax99 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As India demands its own!!! British museum are best described as utter theft stores, aren't they? THEY ARE!!

  • @gerald_2196
    @gerald_2196 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    A big fault of Sunak to cancel the meeting with the greek PM.

    • @shaphocane5443
      @shaphocane5443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well done Rishi Marble belong to us

    • @danknado97
      @danknado97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@shaphocane5443 try saying that face to face to a Greek little anglo boi

  • @xenofonkarykis8417
    @xenofonkarykis8417 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Let me explain to my British friends what the optics on the Parthenon marbles are. First of all not all works of art are the same. We're talking about a monument here not a painting that was taken. Monuments belong to themselves and the place they were built, to be there as a whole, standing for what they were built for. They should not be dismantled, moved or in any way defaced. This is what humanity agrees upon today as a whole and it is recorded in the Venice charter of which the UK is also a signatory. It's not something up for debate, just like slavery e.g. is not up for debate and most certainly not up for debate in Britain.
    Despite that the British goverment and the British museum acts entirely contrary to that.
    Noone can hide behind vague and incoherent assumptions about the past and the circumstances that they ended up in the British museum and there are no excuses to keep any of it. It needs to be returned to its place where the actual.monuments stands. Period.
    Trying to come up with excuses about it is the same as someone owning a slave today saying, oh i didn't enslave uncle Tom here, I inherited him from my dad. He didn't enslave him either, he got him from someone else. Hey, don't blame me, I'm against slavery, I know it's wrong, but what can we do now, I have him. And I'm keeping him.
    Those optics clear enough for everyone?

    • @K_j_M
      @K_j_M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Bro, no need for explanations. The majority agree that Greece should have its trinkets back

    • @xenofonkarykis8417
      @xenofonkarykis8417 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@K_j_M I know that most British agree. I m referring to the British goverment (possibly supported by a minority on this) and the British museum, whose attitudes are an affront to British and Greek people alike.

    • @xenofonkarykis8417
      @xenofonkarykis8417 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@K_j_M And by the way it's not trinkets. It may be trinkets to someone who is not Greek understandably, it most certainly was that for Elgin they way he hacked through the Partenon with sledgehamners, but for a Greek the Parthenon is similar to say the cenotaph. Beyond any artistic and historical value of the monument to anyone, the Parthenon is a war memorial of victory from the Grecopersian wars, its friezes depicting the fallen Athenian soldiers in the battle of Marathon who died protecting their homeland their democracy and their freedom. So it is not a "trinket" .

    • @BenRobinson1974
      @BenRobinson1974 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are not Greece's, they are not the UK's, they belong to humanity and they should be where they are looked after and preserved best. Which is where they are.
      Look at what is happening to the Acropolis now - slapping down concrete everywhere to make it easier to squeeze more tourist dollars out. Shameful.

    • @shaphocane5443
      @shaphocane5443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It belongs in UK 😡😡😡

  • @ThwmasSt
    @ThwmasSt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    very rude behavior! every year so many greek people goes to England, we have close ties so many years but then.....Sunak happened!

  • @JaneSoole
    @JaneSoole 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    PLEASE BRITAIN, JUST RETURN THE FLIPPING MARBLES. THEY WERE REMOVED BY A BRIT. THEY NEED TO GO HOME.

    • @shaphocane5443
      @shaphocane5443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      F U no

    • @2289m
      @2289m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hear, hear

    • @unknownguy0161
      @unknownguy0161 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@2289mhear, hear

  • @zinosspirou8899
    @zinosspirou8899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    It’s a shame to see a Punjab-British putting in jeopardy a diplomatic scene between allies and continue to insult all the Greek people,that his forefathers were allies since ancient times.

    • @floopybits8037
      @floopybits8037 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is not Punjabi he is gujrati 😒😒😒

    • @zinosspirou8899
      @zinosspirou8899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theunderdog4155 of course!if he dismiss the prime minister of country it’s like dismissing the entire country.

  • @user-kf1he2pk3l
    @user-kf1he2pk3l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    When it comes to grandstanding, no one can beat this government.

    • @2289m
      @2289m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do watch Channel 4's The Climate Change Fight, it makes this Conservative government look so out of step with all things that will help folks live as they deserve to do so. Shambolic.

  • @christosp.tsonis6194
    @christosp.tsonis6194 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    It is incredible that the British have on display in their museum the stolen Parthenon marbles and make money from them. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wonder if they return to the countries all the stolen artifacts and monuments what would they have to put for display in their museum!

    • @cdeford2
      @cdeford2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I seem to remember reading that the marbles on display are copies. It's not just the BM. The Louvre and Metropolitan are full of looted treasures. That's why they are fighting tooth and nail to prevent them going back - it would set a precedent.

    • @christosp.tsonis6194
      @christosp.tsonis6194 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@cdeford2 It would be a virtuous gesture by England, a nation that prides herself on being noble and honourable, to return the Parthenon Marbles to their rightful home in the new Acropolis Museum in Athens. They should not care what the French do.

    • @evansnaturechannel1266
      @evansnaturechannel1266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅

    • @arunabhray7630
      @arunabhray7630 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The British are big thieves ..Somebody told me about the British museum there is nothing of British heritage and culture in British museum except one the culture of loot.

    • @shaphocane5443
      @shaphocane5443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it's not stolen it belongs to UK.

  • @grigogamers7143
    @grigogamers7143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The reverse Midas' touch!!! 😂❤😂❤😂❤😂❤😂

  • @mikerobb8838
    @mikerobb8838 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Roland's a vote winner isn't he. Sunak proving hourly that there is little correlation between education and intelligence and further, wealth and ability.

  • @RandomVideosFirst
    @RandomVideosFirst 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Not a fan of labour but I think Keirs PMQS performance here is his best since just before Liz Truss resigned (the famous , Gone , Gone ,Gone line )

    • @shaphocane5443
      @shaphocane5443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tony Blair was the root of the mess. Although I voted for him, loved his wife but was dissapointed later on

  • @martinfox3478
    @martinfox3478 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Sunak was well and truly roasted. The Tory front benchers looked in despair. How have we ended up with someone so weak as PM?

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weak and bad at politics.
      Like Sir Keir.

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because we're not allowed to directly vote for our PM

    • @alfredmaddison3046
      @alfredmaddison3046 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now then,what can we accuse nutsack of,christ the list go'es on have'nt got time,but i think we all know.

    • @childofthe60s100
      @childofthe60s100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what the "politicians" who voted him (narrowly) in wanted.
      Pliant, malleable, unlikely to do anything (at all).
      Remember the shambles that was Liz Truss?
      HE was her replacement - see how it works?

    • @K_j_M
      @K_j_M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@julianshepherd2038clearly not

  • @katara3619
    @katara3619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    SUNAK is a Migrant....dont forget that...🤔

  • @pipoo1
    @pipoo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    He truly is the Prime Miniature. A small man in every sense of the word.

    • @Sommervillle
      @Sommervillle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha that's a good one!

  • @MKLDNGR
    @MKLDNGR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sunak is hopeless…totally uncultured….

    • @shaphocane5443
      @shaphocane5443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe but MARBLES are UK property

    • @ZeeMurdah
      @ZeeMurdah 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shaphocane5443Considering Sunak has gone to Marbles, I would actually agree.

    • @user-od9li7oq5h
      @user-od9li7oq5h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shaphocane5443 NO, THEY'RE NOT. THEY WERE STOLEN. THEY ARE GREEK PROPERTY. ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL. WE DEMAND THAT THEY ARE RETURNED TO GREECE. PERIOD.

  • @user-mo7nm6cr7w
    @user-mo7nm6cr7w 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sunak should resign. The thief knows when to hide.

  • @K_j_M
    @K_j_M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Sunak got torn a new bunghole today. Absolutely eviscerated by Starmer... It was painful to watch haha

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Sunak is not as smart as we have been told.

  • @ronmullard5718
    @ronmullard5718 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sunak hasn't got the common sense that his wealth decrees he should have...vote of no confidence in him and his party...

  • @jacksalisbury4289
    @jacksalisbury4289 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I sometimes think Sunak does relatively well to rebuff the increasing tide of failure he is presiding over being pointed out.
    Not today. Absolute humiliation. And one of his own making, due in large part to his petulance and political naivety.
    Time for this tech bro to call time on his “crack at politics”

  • @aokiaoki4238
    @aokiaoki4238 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Greek veto in all UK-EU negotiations till the return of sculptures.

  • @danielforater8376
    @danielforater8376 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is like watching stand up comedy
    Although here in Greece same happens in the parliament although more drama less comedy

  • @dibdab101
    @dibdab101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    and the rest of us accuse him of dead catting, avoiding the important issues.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    No-one is buying it, Rishi. Act on your "Five Promises". The people don't care about these distractions.

    • @2289m
      @2289m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sadly the PM isn't delivering on any but in fairness to him, its been 13 years of mismanagement by this government, no point in blming the last PM in the seat, they are all to blame, and those that voted for these promises too.

  • @mariapspadopulou9898
    @mariapspadopulou9898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Mr. Sunak not only was he rude, he is also lying to damage control the furore his behaviour created.

  • @quattrorsq8558
    @quattrorsq8558 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's like I am watching just another day in a kindergarten 😅

  • @romanity2919
    @romanity2919 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I prefer Peter Selers in the movie "The Party" rather than this destroyer of international relations.

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Can sunak resign now please his destroying this country millions of people are coming in every day

    • @K_j_M
      @K_j_M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Less than aillion a year but... Whatever

  • @belals6900
    @belals6900 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    “Britain isn’t listening”
    Funny how his mic cut off as soon as he said that
    Speaks to how true a statement this really is

  • @sdo888
    @sdo888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2022:England
    2023:Ingland😂
    2024:Indialand

  • @STYouNews
    @STYouNews 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    *The rest of us accuse him of dead catting, avoiding the important issues*

  • @brownieboy6651
    @brownieboy6651 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Got to admit, I have missed the muppet show.

  • @asahdo
    @asahdo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mate, just give them their fancy rocks back

  • @peterkoutsis2780
    @peterkoutsis2780 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just stop the theatre and bring them home. Your house is a circus like ours.

  • @danknado97
    @danknado97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Parthenon and Pergamon friezes belong to Greece

  • @evernut100
    @evernut100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't bring the numbers down.0%illegal migration is what's needed

  • @aman_s47
    @aman_s47 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why people r suddenly standing and seating

  • @jeanlambert342
    @jeanlambert342 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No😮fit for Government this PM please release him of this burden

  • @js9785
    @js9785 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    James Cleverly trying to defend himself again was hilarious and embarrassing

  • @susanpettitt713
    @susanpettitt713 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man needs to grow up and call GE

  • @lysanders8885
    @lysanders8885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At least, it s not grand-thieving...

    • @2289m
      @2289m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      plenty more this government have stolen from us all

  • @ayiorgos
    @ayiorgos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    ..And in France, and Germany, and Rusia,U.S.A.and Italy,Spain, and in the Churches around Akropolis. :) :) :) ...A never ending list of where Greek artifacts are... Greece is everywhere: :)
    Απάντηση

  • @mikeymike1854
    @mikeymike1854 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another weak prime minister

  • @pritapp788
    @pritapp788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theft is theft. If someone stole stuff belonging to his family and him, would Sunak be pleased to be accused of "grandstanding"?

  • @MrVjjorge
    @MrVjjorge 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Elgin took them under false pretences ergo ‘nicked’ them then sold them for profit to the museum , yeh all above board

  • @Koalanumber5
    @Koalanumber5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keirs best MOMENT!❤❤❤

  • @UltimateMadWorld
    @UltimateMadWorld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Rishi Sunak thinks he's a Griffin then he's even much more lost in la la land than even Sir Keir Starmer is even remotely aware of! Rishi's dispute with the Greek Government is entirely a private antiquitous affair and is one that cannot be neither supported with the UK populace nor that of his crippled support from that of his own party cabinet members from Downing Street which is best described as a Greek tragedy in itself. Which is one that has already very much undermined and abused the confidence of those within the UK electorate!
    Suffice to say but this guy Rishi is totally lost at sea along with his lost marbles so maybe someone should finally show him the marble arch overlooking outside Downing Street!
    And perhaps maybe Plato can point Sunak in the right direction from a long distant past although am sure we can all wish him the very best of luck in these new but rather odd endeavours before leaving office!
    😂😂

  • @mikem8211
    @mikem8211 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    There are 80000 Greeks in the UK I'd be careful when visiting North London Rishi Rich

  • @sureshtharakan535
    @sureshtharakan535 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whenathiefstealsartticlesofvaluetheitemsarereturnedtotheownerbylaw

  • @vasileiosanastasiadis1992
    @vasileiosanastasiadis1992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stolen must be back..

  • @alexjn5460
    @alexjn5460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sunak looks absolutely broken at some points in this. Especially where Starmer was highlighting the civil war engulfing his party.
    It's embarrassing for him even. Everyone in Britain (and apparently Europe) can now see that the writing is on the wall.

    • @hirenska4765
      @hirenska4765 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @alexjn5460 nope, what's more importan is the work on the ground, the economy, and he delivered, because uk did not get into recession, starmer is just picking on him because rishi did not meet the greek prime minister. it does not work that way. should have left the british people with liz truss, then we would have see how fast uk becomes the next somalia,

  • @finianlacy8827
    @finianlacy8827 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    £30 Billion. Directly from WHO

  • @antartis73
    @antartis73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A migrant of Indian descent has turned hardliner against other immigrants. Does anyone else think this is wrong?

  • @MyDreamside
    @MyDreamside 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why the Prime minister of UK is not white? British are white like Greeks or even whiter more blondish and red. That's how Bristish tourists are

  • @tom6621
    @tom6621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's always a zoo setting

  • @DarrenJamiesonJamieson
    @DarrenJamiesonJamieson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What have Tories done:
    Against EU:
    Nothing.
    For EU:
    All foreign flags must depict US
    All products must have EU. swash stikker (driving licence).
    Kept floodgates open.
    9/10 subsidies for EU representing companies.
    Replacing the jungle (this is it), with an envy-ir-o-ment.
    I could go on...as the list is endless!

  • @Airthumbs
    @Airthumbs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what a farce

  • @Jiangos
    @Jiangos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no expression "elginian marbles"! The correct one is the "Greek marbles of the Parthenon"! Ok?🤨🤨🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

  • @kokosfrantze2397
    @kokosfrantze2397 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    sunak😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @crispyduck1706
    @crispyduck1706 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s ok to slag of the Tory Party but not one idea or plan to ask things better from Starmer

    • @darrennandrewfitness2836
      @darrennandrewfitness2836 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂to be fair the Tories have stolen a lot of Labour policies 😂😂😂😂😂😂 so there

  • @ks4733
    @ks4733 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He needs to go

  • @antartis73
    @antartis73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The moment England understand they have been part of Europe it’s politics it’s culture and history for longer than anyone cares to remember,will be the day they will rejoin the EU family

  • @gabrielchuen
    @gabrielchuen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Immigration charges are going up, therefore the more immigrants the better for the coffers technically. 😂 Do they want the number up or down? UK companies may need to pay for the cost anyway if people are coming for work. And universities may lose overseas students because studying in the uk become too expensive. Mmmm… just another disastrous policy.

  • @markbolton9739
    @markbolton9739 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They've lost.there marbles

  • @GerryMessaris-ee5rg
    @GerryMessaris-ee5rg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truss kind little brother

  • @Englsh129
    @Englsh129 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pishi stunak

  • @Dimi3_United
    @Dimi3_United 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Τhe marbles don't belong to Britain belongs to Greece Parthenon.British museum basic source of income.Make replicas and release the original ones

  • @zehss6925
    @zehss6925 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get rid of punjab

  • @lee_w007
    @lee_w007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skynews who cares about this really, PLEASE put pressure on the government to help families with energy bills. That should be the biggest priority for families and pensioners right now, all this other rubbish need not be aired.

  • @user-ej4xp3ge5u
    @user-ej4xp3ge5u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "How's migration going?" - rich from the Labour Party when they sat quietly when stricter border control was discussed during Corbyn's period as leader of the opposition.

    • @SpenceJS87
      @SpenceJS87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BuT CoRbYn

  • @ayiorgos
    @ayiorgos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Half of the frieze of the Acropolis is in the Louvre.
    How come and there is no claim about those?

  • @user-dp3mn2cg6x
    @user-dp3mn2cg6x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cancelling the meeting with the Greek Prime Minister, arguably was the proper decision for Rishi Sunak, that has more important issues to deal with and for Keir Starmer, is part of the politics to argue in the interim !

  • @solegs100
    @solegs100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sunak hit the nail on the head! Labour will agree to free movement with the EU as part of their special arrangment. The Labour party need a complete change of leadership before i trust them again because they keep leaving us in the crap.

  • @mohammadjoudi7253
    @mohammadjoudi7253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These historic monuments were a gift from the Ottoman Empire to Great Britain! These works belong to all humanity and it doesn't have to be in Athens! Earthquakes and volcanoes destroy all historical monuments in Greece, so it is better to leave them in London! London is safe😂😂😂

    • @Giannis-zm5no
      @Giannis-zm5no 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What a joke … so smart 😮

    • @2289m
      @2289m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      There are over 100,000 Greek artefact in the BM, Greece is not asking for ALL to be returned, this request is specific. Specific because the Parthenon still stands, there is a superlative Acropolis Museum where the surviving halves not forcibly removed when Greece had no voice, are correctly displayed. Time to show some respect for a peerless collection of sculptures. Time to reunite them in the Acropolis Museum.

  • @Mynsinger
    @Mynsinger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We know why the Tories are grandstanding, they'd have to empty their museums if they gave back the Parthenon Marbles

    • @2289m
      @2289m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hardly, they grandstand because they can, tragically they are in power thanks to the electorate - all the hollow promises this government has made, are still being lapped up - to be fair whoever wins the next election will need decades to shovel UK out of the hole it is sitting in at the moment. Disappointing and tragic.