Moissanite is a gemstone, not a fake Diamond. It was isolated in nature, named in nature, and the lab version is identical to the one found in nature… stop being illiterate before y’all comment some shit
Forreal had this dude on face book say .. these are replicas and not real 😂 boy .. even said he don’t need to research because these are fake and not a gemstone and he does not sell it lol So if your a jeweler you’d know these are gemstones . Lol
@@b.trill6868then stop talking bout they ring on a diamond tester if y’all want it to be a gemstone then. Nobody puts testers on emeralds and rubys but stay trying to test moissanite 🤣
And they’re real. That’s the best part. Lab grown and/or natural moissanite is real. It’s not the typical diamond alternative like cz which isn’t a real stone, with moissanite you get a better price, for something that is just as real as a diamond, shines more and looks better and like I said it’s 10x more affordable. The only thing diamond has over moissanite is the hardness but when you’re #2 only behind diamonds…does the hardness matter? Especially when the difference is only by not even a full decimal it’s a 0.5 difference. Who buys stones for the hardness alone anyway
@@timothywallace5507man I wear this thick ass stainless steel bracelet and ppl be drooling all over that shit , maybe because it’s super thick it stands out a lot
Natrual moissanite is way more rare then diamonds. Whats so funny? He aint got money for a diamond chain and what? a moissanite stone is still almost as hard as a diamond and bling more then diamonds. Americans diamond prices are stiuped high it aint even a rare stone and it aint special its cool and all yes but diamonds are so stiuped expensive. and yes i have yellow diamond earing and its cool but overpriced asf for no reason lmao. lab moissanite is just better both price and chine.
Depending on the tester. The typical one doesn’t say moissanite on it, so in that sense you wrong. If you have the $200 tester it’ll test for stones specifically and will say moissanite specifically on it. The typical $20 one you see on tik tok and TH-cam n shit doesn’t test the actual stone, it tests the thermal heat they give off so when a stone gives off a similar amount of heat as diamonds like moissanite does it will read as a diamond
One tenth the price? CORRECTION: More like one HUNDREDTH TO one THOUSANDTH THE PRICE!! Jewellers are taking advantage of moissanite's amazing qualities to exponentially push up their prices for even more absurd PROFIT$ !!!
True but we do our best to have the most affordable prices. Remember they got a business to run which cost money. They gotta make something. But I do see some ridiculous prices.
Would you spend thousands of dollars for diamonds that loses its value right after purchase and the resale value becomes 20-60 percent which is a stupid loss..or buy moissanite which is double the minimum price and shines brighter lol
no one sets moissanite on precious metals but yeah platinum is dope, but I feel like 18k white gold is better cuz u be ruining the metal when u drill holes and set rocks innit and platinum itself hold better value then impure gold so I feel like it would be smarter to use a cheaper metal on some iced out shit that’s gonna drop in value anyways
@@astroicejewelryit is a fake stone they have to literally lab grow it for it to become moissanite. Silicon carbide doesn’t come in that property naturally. Can’t compare a meteorite rock to a diamond.
@@astroicejewelry that’s what Wikipedia say It has the chemical formula SiC and is a rare mineral, discovered by the French chemist Henri Moissan in 1893. Silicon carbide or moissanite is useful for commercial and industrial applications due to its hardness, optical properties and thermal conductivity.
The prolem is, Everybody and they Grams got an Icy Cuban link. Now more affordable to get what everyone else has. I want another fat Herringbone like i bought right before Tupac popped up sportin 2 of em (in I get around video, etc.) I dont even see them no more but i know u can still get em.. be careful handlin em tho, they kink easily and r ruined after that
They only ring on the crap diamond testers these TH-camrs used for content if that was the case u could buy moissanite and resale it to a jeweler as a diamond but if u buy the $200 tester all there fake till u make it ppl will be caught
@@astroicejewelry never said it was fake I say the fake it till u make it people because I’ve never seen someone buy vvs moissonite and when they make a post they say moissonite lmao they usually leave that out and just say vvs diamonds flashing money and clothes😂😂😂 it’s ok to be different and buy moisture just don’t lie to yourself of not be yourself to be fake
2 years later…….😂 Failed to mention they are yellow Are yours carbon coated Oh there’s so much more to unpack to educate ppl as you’re attempting to do
What’s the fuckin point when it looks the same? Ain’t no one walking in public with microscopes, magnifying glasses, and Diamond testers. I promise no one really gives a fuck what’s on your neck or wrist. Get shit cuz you like it
Lab diamonds are man made, what difference does that make. I’m not saying they are diamonds. I’m saying that moissanite stones ring on a basic diamond tester, making them very popular.
@@astroicejewelry key word basic tester, hope nothing but successful keep grinding if I had the money I would be promoting 18k 22k and 24k asian gold they definitely hit different in the sun especially when they are diamond cut 🤌💜
Moissanite is a moissanite and diamond is a diamond! Moissanite is not a fake diamond moissanite is a own stone and natrual moissanite is sooo much more rare then diamonds in nature.
Taylor Swift love 💕💕 carbonado meteorite Black 🖤 Diamond jewelry.. can y'all help find 100 grams of Carbonado meteorite Black 🖤 Diamond uncut gems quality untreated please 🙏..
That's why it's always smart to go straight into the comment box an see what people say I like to read the really smart people that know what there talkin about so I can learn from them Cus when people start ta talk out the side of there mouth an don't know what there talking about or get there facts straight makes things confusing 4 everyone 🎉
A wise prophet by the name of Juvenile once barred quote "you paid $1,500 I paid $59.99 we got diamonds and Rolexs that shine at the same time. I ain't scared but I ain't dum or I ain't stupid I know how to survive in the projects and how to do shit"
Only valuable gem some of you know is diamond...and that's not even the name of one of the stones mentioned to be the city that had golden floors in the bible. He named emerald but ruby and etc but y'all would probably say thats worthless too. The only thing make diamond worth si much is the people that sell it,,,if they said copper was now more expensive than diamonds you'd believe it even though you know better. We decide nothing so wear what you want and stop worrying about whats cheaper.
Lab diamond is better because more stones too much in the sun will start getting cloudy and fade color lab diamond never fades color because it’s like a real diamond 💎
To have the same look and similar quality to a $30,000 chain. Solid silver and Moissanite stones that pass a Diamond tester. We also have smaller MM chains that cost less in moissanite.
You have no idea what a moissanite chain cost if your saying that. It cost more than that to make this chain. Let us know if you want some more specs on our 19MM Cuban link in silver and moissanite. I’d be happy to send it to you.
@astroicejewelry exactly, and when you go to sell it, you only get like 13k back, and you paid 20k 😅 that's a 7k loss when you can just buy this for 1300 and if you need to sell you can say exactly what it is and get back like 900$ which is only 400$ dollar loss.
Moissanite is a gemstone, not a fake Diamond. It was isolated in nature, named in nature, and the lab version is identical to the one found in nature… stop being illiterate before y’all comment some shit
Forreal had this dude on face book say .. these are replicas and not real 😂 boy .. even said he don’t need to research because these are fake and not a gemstone and he does not sell it lol
So if your a jeweler you’d know these are gemstones . Lol
They’re still dog shit lol
@@b.trill6868then stop talking bout they ring on a diamond tester if y’all want it to be a gemstone then. Nobody puts testers on emeralds and rubys but stay trying to test moissanite 🤣
Well actually moissanite was found from a meteorite back in like 1960 he tried to recreate it so the dude that found named after him moissanite 🎉
You also seem to forget that a real diamond is 100% carbon an its hardness an thermal conductivity HAS NOT BEEN MATCHED.
You should do a side by side comparison because theirs a difference that can be seen in the naked eye.
And they’re real. That’s the best part. Lab grown and/or natural moissanite is real. It’s not the typical diamond alternative like cz which isn’t a real stone, with moissanite you get a better price, for something that is just as real as a diamond, shines more and looks better and like I said it’s 10x more affordable. The only thing diamond has over moissanite is the hardness but when you’re #2 only behind diamonds…does the hardness matter? Especially when the difference is only by not even a full decimal it’s a 0.5 difference. Who buys stones for the hardness alone anyway
💯 This is what we are showing in our videos. MOISSANITE is the next best thing 🔥💎
Still a fake diamond
@@emmanuelguevara8051imagine being wrong with confidence 😂
diamonds maybe don’t shine as much but they the real deal, moisinate real too, but they not diamonds
@@emmanuelguevara8051Would love to know your explanation as to how you’ve magically yanked that out of your ass.
That mustache is criminal
😂
😂😂😂
As real as them stones
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What moustache
if i was a rapper id buy these silver with moissanite and save a killing. no one would know and id use my money for cars and cribs.
Don’t buy to many cars
Facts stop making them people rich buying that overpriced stuff nobody will ever kno
You can tell the difference once you around real jewelry. It hits different.
@@timothywallace5507 nobody will be looking like that every body wears that stuff
@@timothywallace5507man I wear this thick ass stainless steel bracelet and ppl be drooling all over that shit , maybe because it’s super thick it stands out a lot
Real, natural Moissanite is 10x harder to find than actual diamond and it shines brighter too
I’m good fam
They are a real gemstone!
Can’t afford it homie 😂 maybe in future 🙏
@@chrischristophers618 I’m 16 and I can afford it now
bro not everybody has money soo stfu @@chrischristophers618
Natrual moissanite is way more rare then diamonds. Whats so funny? He aint got money for a diamond chain and what? a moissanite stone is still almost as hard as a diamond and bling more then diamonds. Americans diamond prices are stiuped high it aint even a rare stone and it aint special its cool and all yes but diamonds are so stiuped expensive. and yes i have yellow diamond earing and its cool but overpriced asf for no reason lmao. lab moissanite is just better both price and chine.
@@prizixz will you relax. For one I made this comment almost a year ago and secondly I was talking about myself.
@@trvst_dreams9859 Aahh sorry mate.
What is your company called i wanna see the collection . Looking for 925 silver moissanie jewelry
Here’s the link: astroicejewelry.com/collections/silver-moissanite
Exactly what I'm looking for.
@@akandemoshoodoladimeji3772 We are here to help 🥶
Nigga they say moisinite. The diamond tester can test for moisinite
Only the $300 ones
Nah they pass the diamond testers even when it specifically tests for that gemstone unless it’s low quality
My nigga learn how spell moissanite first 🤣
Depending on the tester. The typical one doesn’t say moissanite on it, so in that sense you wrong. If you have the $200 tester it’ll test for stones specifically and will say moissanite specifically on it. The typical $20 one you see on tik tok and TH-cam n shit doesn’t test the actual stone, it tests the thermal heat they give off so when a stone gives off a similar amount of heat as diamonds like moissanite does it will read as a diamond
He just created a new stone MOISINITE LOL, I wonder if they ring on a diamond tester.
Why is this a video w/ a video of him in the background😂
Double content in one post😂🥶
One tenth the price? CORRECTION: More like one HUNDREDTH TO one THOUSANDTH THE PRICE!! Jewellers are taking advantage of moissanite's amazing qualities to exponentially push up their prices for even more absurd PROFIT$ !!!
True but we do our best to have the most affordable prices. Remember they got a business to run which cost money. They gotta make something. But I do see some ridiculous prices.
That's why a bust down cost a couple thousand but natural diamonds cost a couple million
@@CharlesCoop-n4v why?
Most moissanite are lab made for way less than what you are being charged
The have already made a fortune before rappers knew the truth
@@CharlesCoop-n4v you think jewelers been selling them as diamonds? 🤷🏽♂️
Would you spend thousands of dollars for diamonds that loses its value right after purchase and the resale value becomes 20-60 percent which is a stupid loss..or buy moissanite which is double the minimum price and shines brighter lol
Moissanite is the move 🥶🤑
Don’t moissanite shine less and less the more it’s worn though?
@@kitsumiii no, it has a higher brillance than diamonds. They do not fade over time.
I need a chain fam
@@terrilewis7220 Hit us up on Instagram, @astroice_jewelry we got you✊🏽🥶
got my girl a 14k gold ring with a moissanite stone for christmas
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😂😂
@@starzba6291what you get ?
Better safe than sorry 😂😂
but who sells the best cheap chains though?
@@jamarbell1177 we have more affordable options on our website: astroicejewelry.com
I like them but I’m allergic to silver 😢 do the have any other options?
are you a vampire?
In the future we plan on offering Gold as an option.
also what size is the cuban on your neck?
22in🥶
Setting stones in silver is dog shit. Platinum is the very best setting, gold is next best.
no one sets moissanite on precious metals but yeah platinum is dope, but I feel like 18k white gold is better cuz u be ruining the metal when u drill holes and set rocks innit and platinum itself hold better value then impure gold so I feel like it would be smarter to use a cheaper metal on some iced out shit that’s gonna drop in value anyways
Wow❤❤❤ we are professional in chains
No fake stones for me.
Google Moissanite
Education is a must before you just start talking lol
@@astroicejewelryit is a fake stone they have to literally lab grow it for it to become moissanite. Silicon carbide doesn’t come in that property naturally. Can’t compare a meteorite rock to a diamond.
broke people who cant afford diamond's, are buying Moissanite
Thats what all rapper have
@@manu_ovg not all but probably most
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Fuck no lol 😂 I can't do it
Can't do diamonds either lol
will the stones fall out though?
These stones are secured in place with prongs. We also have a lifetime warranty on our chains.
Is there gold ones
In the future, we plan on having those options
dope
It is a mineral
@@stephenallenmusic I learned something new, a real gemstone that’s a mineral as well.
@@astroicejewelry that’s what Wikipedia say It has the chemical formula SiC and is a rare mineral, discovered by the French chemist Henri Moissan in 1893. Silicon carbide or moissanite is useful for commercial and industrial applications due to its hardness, optical properties and thermal conductivity.
The more color is a dead giveaway that it not a diamond lol😂😂
Moissanite stones have a higher brilliance than diamonds, which give them a more colorful shine than diamonds. Diamonds have more of a white shine.
To the every day person, they would not be able to tell the difference between moissanite and diamond.
@@astroicejewelrylike he said it’s a dead giveaway
@@1Jaystacks_pcg there’s many videos on TH-cam with a side-by-side comparison. You can’t tell the difference just by looking at it from 3 feet away.
@@astroicejewelry oh well Ima stick to my real jewelry like NYC luxury 😎
I’d buy anything from you 😊
Nice
Is da teeth moissanite?
No
The prolem is, Everybody and they Grams got an Icy Cuban link.
Now more affordable to get what everyone else has.
I want another fat Herringbone like i bought right before Tupac popped up sportin 2 of em (in I get around video, etc.)
I dont even see them no more but i know u can still get em.. be careful handlin em tho, they kink easily and r ruined after that
But, you know it’s fake and that should be unsettling.
Nothing fake about moissanite and silver
@@astroicejewelry if it’s trying to be something it isn’t…a la a diamond encrusted Cuban, it’s fake.
@@MD-xb1qw diamonds are not the only gemstone. That’s like saying a Cuban with iced out rubies is fake because you can only use diamonds for that.
@@astroicejewelry terrible analogy. No one would ever mistaken a ruby for a diamond. Now, a Moissanite….
@@MD-xb1qw oh so only because it’s a real gemstone that can be mistaken for a diamond. Yea you’re correct, that makes a lot of sense.
No way natural diamonds better than a cheaper moissinate if you gotta budget nothing better than
If I put both stones with the same quality in front of you, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference🤷🏽♂️
@astroicejewelry not the same change of subject like plant burger and beef burger looks same etc I'd perfer natural diamonds
Thanks for responding
@@AlexJ-e5t I understand but it’s definitely something to consider ✊🏽
@astroicejewelry I just bought 3 carat loose diamonds natural from India. When they arrived I'm test them and compare to moisanite
They only ring on the crap diamond testers these TH-camrs used for content if that was the case u could buy moissanite and resale it to a jeweler as a diamond but if u buy the $200 tester all there fake till u make it ppl will be caught
Moissanite is a real gemstone
A real jeweler can tell moissanite from a diamond regardless of a tester bc they look at the pieces thru a magnifying glass as well
@@astroicejewelry never said it was fake I say the fake it till u make it people because I’ve never seen someone buy vvs moissonite and when they make a post they say moissonite lmao they usually leave that out and just say vvs diamonds flashing money and clothes😂😂😂 it’s ok to be different and buy moisture just don’t lie to yourself of not be yourself to be fake
@@jordanweber95 understandable, but at the end of the day people are going to do what they want
What’s link?
astroicejewelry.com/collections/silver-moissanite/products/copy-of-19mm-prong-set-cuban-link
If you’re not a famous rapper we know that it’s fake .. you guys make less than 6 figures a walking around with goofy chain
Dimonds are over priced and is for people who have little willys that’s need them 😂
ring on an old ass diamond tester... i rock em i dont care if they show mois on a good tester. be honest
There are testers that will test for moissanite, but the basic testers that most people have will show moissanite as a diamond
They want cheap stones to pass the diamond tester… flex is real!
Being more affordable isn’t the main point. Moissanite is another gemstone that can be used in Jewelry. If you don’t like it that’s on you.
not actually 1/10 of the price of natural diamond lol i would say more like half a price.
When talking about loose stones moissanite is 1/10th the price.
A lifetime a lie to yourself
Moissanite is a real gemstone that looks like a diamond and it’s much more affordable. What is there to lie about
😂😂😂
Shit don’t hit the same Joe
Moissanite has an amazing white shine and rainbow color. Diamonds do have a different shine but don’t take away from the way that moissanite shines 🤩
Yeah, Moissanite is too rare.
Ts not even shining go look up real diamonds vs Moissanite and yall will see what im tb
2 years later…….😂
Failed to mention they are yellow
Are yours carbon coated
Oh there’s so much more to unpack to educate ppl as you’re attempting to do
Fake😅
Just Buy a silver chain without the Bullshit all over it....
People want ICE💎
Fake don’t grind, stop wasting yo timme 😢
No point in buying fake there’s a price point for everyone with natural diamonds especially 2-3k
Silver and moissanite are not fake.
@@astroicejewelryyes it is 😂
@@jamaljacobs9771 Google Moissanite
@@jamaljacobs9771dumbass over here. They're literally a gemstone in its on right.
That shit fu
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I don’t care to shine with CZ change the name they won’t think twice 😂😂
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Just buy real diamonds
Pay more for the same look? Goofy
@@Cleolockedin I guess I can afford em
@@Cleolockedinlol, don't do him like that.
What’s the fuckin point when it looks the same? Ain’t no one walking in public with microscopes, magnifying glasses, and Diamond testers. I promise no one really gives a fuck what’s on your neck or wrist. Get shit cuz you like it
Why tf I thought this was ben Simmons
😂
It's man made 😂😂😂😂 and only cheap diamond tester will come up as diamond let the tester have moissanite it'll ring stop the cap
Lab diamonds are man made, what difference does that make. I’m not saying they are diamonds. I’m saying that moissanite stones ring on a basic diamond tester, making them very popular.
@@astroicejewelry key word basic tester, hope nothing but successful keep grinding if I had the money I would be promoting 18k 22k and 24k asian gold they definitely hit different in the sun especially when they are diamond cut 🤌💜
My moissanite pendant be dancing 🕺🏽 it’s ass off even in the dark
@@510baysharkantthizzle4 🥶💎🔥
Moissanite is a moissanite and diamond is a diamond! Moissanite is not a fake diamond moissanite is a own stone and natrual moissanite is sooo much more rare then diamonds in nature.
@@prizixz 💯
If I can’t get in the pool or ocean with out it changing colors IM GOOD‼️🤣🤣🤣
This is a real 925 solid silver base nothing is going to happen to it
you were dropped in the head as a baby
@@astroicejewelry Oh ok ok gotcha…… Is there a link on your page?
@@fl_boi727 heres the link: astroicejewelry.com/
so you resell these chains from aliexpress?
For a sec I thought oh boy Simmons had started a new career 💀
😂
@@astroicejewelry 🤣🤣🤣on sum real shit my boi that’s yo twin g
More like Rudy
@@hoop_nation12 na I don’t know about that one
Taylor Swift love 💕💕 carbonado meteorite Black 🖤 Diamond jewelry.. can y'all help find 100 grams of Carbonado meteorite Black 🖤 Diamond uncut gems quality untreated please 🙏..
That's why it's always smart to go straight into the comment box an see what people say
I like to read the really smart people that know what there talkin about so I can learn from them
Cus when people start ta talk out the side of there mouth an don't know what there talking about or get there facts straight makes things confusing 4 everyone 🎉
No👎just don’t buy jewelry until u can afford the real diamonds 💎
@@FOR3V3R_33 Moissanites are real gemstones.
A wise prophet by the name of Juvenile once barred quote "you paid $1,500 I paid $59.99 we got diamonds and Rolexs that shine at the same time. I ain't scared but I ain't dum or I ain't stupid I know how to survive in the projects and how to do shit"
I think he meant 5999
I am buying gold alone. Keeps the value better than stones anyway
Correct.
I knew it
An entire generation full of pretenders……
Imagine getting killed for a fake chain ✅✅
@@seriouscarguys702 Real moissanite and real silver. People wearing what they want, imagine that. 🤷🏽♂️
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maximum prestige lightskin
Rising in popularity but not value 😂
@@rell9818 have you seen diamond prices?↘️
Yea but where do you buy this shit from? Seems like nobody sells it
From Us: astroicejewelry.com/collections/silver-moissanite
But u cant sell it at a diamond market price.
@@JesseKerr-rl6yx moissanite is an affordable diamond alternative 💎✅
There are diamond testers designed to spot them
Yes they cost around $200
Did this man just jump? 😂
@@deereezter1809 No I just landed 👽😂
Fake diamonds 😂😂😂
@@jimbrowntv3797 moissanite gemstones are not fake brother 🥶
Why is bro playing his self on TV
Still not real
A real gemstone not being real hmmmmm🤔
Your favorite jeweler sold you moissanite
😂 that’s why you only buy diamond jewelry from trusted jewelers and get it checked ✅
Only valuable gem some of you know is diamond...and that's not even the name of one of the stones mentioned to be the city that had golden floors in the bible. He named emerald but ruby and etc but y'all would probably say thats worthless too. The only thing make diamond worth si much is the people that sell it,,,if they said copper was now more expensive than diamonds you'd believe it even though you know better. We decide nothing so wear what you want and stop worrying about whats cheaper.
This is an amazing comment 💯
Tf was the jump
Beautiful 😍
I get it but ringing on a diamond tester is not really a flex
It actually is, that’s why people choose it over other choices.
Lab diamond is better because more stones too much in the sun will start getting cloudy and fade color lab diamond never fades color because it’s like a real diamond 💎
False info, you are confusing moissanite with CZ. Just exactly like a diamond, moissanite will last a lifetime.
This is not true at all
Whats price of this diamond bracelet
@@ramawtarpatel1340 here’s the link to our collection: astroicejewelry.com/collections/silver-moissanite
Shit idc what nobody say, ima get me some. I’m sure ima still get more women with them than dudes wit the diamonds
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@@astroicejewelry shit me and shorty was just talkin bout these again 🤣 she want some too now
I'm going to have to try this out...
@@acebrown1527 Definitely check it out🔥shop our moissanite collection: astroicejewelry.com/collections/silver-moissanite
where do y'all get your chains from?
What size is the tennis chain on your neck?
4MM 20in 🥶
$2000? Idk
To have the same look and similar quality to a $30,000 chain. Solid silver and Moissanite stones that pass a Diamond tester. We also have smaller MM chains that cost less in moissanite.
@@astroicejewelry are y’all located in Houston?
@@iSmokeALoT19 We are an online store based out of Miami FL
Why you Talking so Fast?
It’s a short, watch my videos to see the difference
What mm is the cuban you have on your neck?
It’s our new 12MM
how much are they?
What is the size of that chain? I want one of those.
In hand is 18in on neck is 20in and 22in
Only gold for me
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How much are the chain
Here’s the link: astroicejewelry.com/collections/silver-moissanite
Them necklaces not worth $2-$3k bro. They worth $500 max for yall biggest chain.
You have no idea what a moissanite chain cost if your saying that. It cost more than that to make this chain. Let us know if you want some more specs on our 19MM Cuban link in silver and moissanite. I’d be happy to send it to you.
Sounds like u are confused with cubic zirconium
U willing to spend 3k u might as well buy some diamonds lol. Lab diamonds
@@dwreck157 the same chain in gold and lab diamonds will still cost several thousand, Up to $20,000
@astroicejewelry exactly, and when you go to sell it, you only get like 13k back, and you paid 20k 😅 that's a 7k loss when you can just buy this for 1300 and if you need to sell you can say exactly what it is and get back like 900$ which is only 400$ dollar loss.