JUST FOR FUN - 22 Picks for the Sega Saturn Mini
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- Looking at it from a viewpoint of what would most likely be on such a device, I choose 20 titles, plus 2 bonus games, for the Sega Saturn Mini.
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Following your logic Sega Lord X, Darius II has a good chance to be on a hypothetical Saturn mini : Baku Baku, Virtua Fighter 2, Sonic 3D Blast, Oasis, Shining Force have all been re-released previously in the 8-16 formats, through ATGames and Sega themselves, obviously to appeal to the millions and millions of Saturn fans. From a Japanese perspective, that would make sense. Personally, I would be disappointed if we didn't see more ports of the Sega Model 2/3. Getting rid of ads here and there must not cost has much as buying the Tomb Raider video game licence... I took RE Code Veronica out of my Dreamcast Mini when I boldly realised this gloomy dark tank-controlled overdone classic would not be worth getting the licence for it. First party must come first, which means Daytona USA should prime over hedgehog crusher Lara Croft. Regardless, I would buy a Saturn Mini because Yaba Sanshiro doesn't cut the mustard just yet.
About 5 minutes into the video, I forgot that it wasn't actually happening, and I started getting super hyped haha
Have faith, I think it will happen...just gotta wait a few years or so.
Relatable
😂I thought there was actually a Saturn mini coming out. I hope a ps2 mini would be in the works too one day
I read on a weeb page thats been confirmed and that one of the series that has been confirmed to be in it will be PANZER DRAGON
You got my hopes up that Sega had announced the Saturn Mini!
I wish!
Im late to everything, man. You won’t get any breaking news on my channel.
Sega did the mini arcade machine in Japan so there is hope
Good lord a Saturn Mini would rock
Is Saturn emulation really at that level though?
Hopefully they don't get sold out because of annoying youtubers and scaplers I'm still salty that I can't get a mini 2
@@liamconverse8950 lol no nor will ever be. Besides, sega already said no to a Saturn mini because it’s too hard to emulate. Ok can I ask a VERY important question sega?
*WHY DID YOU PUT SATURN MINI IN THAT STUPID SURVEY WITH THE MGEA DRIVE MINI 2 IF YOU WERE NEVER GOING TO MAKE A SATURN MINI!?*
*THE SATURN EVEN WON FIRST IN THAT SURVEY TOO!*
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I do think a Saturn mini should happen. This is a good prediction for what games could be on it.
If I were in charge of making a Saturn mini, I’d include many of these while also optioning:
- Dragon Force
- Street Racer
- Rayman
- Astal
- Virtua Fighter Kids
- Fighters Megamix
- Tetris Plus
- Night Warriors
- Soviet Strike
I would also offer a Mission Stick and Analog Controller for compatible titles!
I especially think Street Fighter Alpha 2 is an important addition to your list because it’s better on the Saturn than on the PlayStation!
I know a Jaguar mini isn’t the best idea, but knowing some big name titles were available for the actual hardware, I think a Jaguar mini could sell well if its game list included:
- Rayman
- Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
- Theme Park
- Cannon Fodder
I was just thinking a Saturn Mini would be phenomenal especially for how expensive Saturn has gotten recently.
I am evil. I have one since last year with a modchip.
All 4 of mine have Pseudo Saturn Kai but it'd be nice to not have to burn disks all the time & just have them loaded into it
And might force those to drop in price, or until a Saturn Mini became hard to get hold of (which would happen in no time) A Sega Saturn Mini would sell like crazy.
I'd kill for one
But when you think about it as earthbound proved when it went to the virtual console it does not affect the value of these expensive games it's expensive games because people are actually gonna want to try to obtain them even more so it works out in our favor because more people will think Hey this game is amazing I want to get his name is amazing I wanna get the real copy of it now
A Saturn mini is really my most wanted mini console right now. And it is precisely because I've never played saturn. Mini consoles have been a great opportunity to experience consoles and games you maybe missed out on in the closest way possible to original hardware besides the original.
Yep, I got the NES, SNES and most importantly the Genesis Mini. Last mini I bought was the Coregrafx Mini, and it gave me a brand new experience because I never had a PC Engine/Turbografx. Some people may hate emulation, but I now get to play many great titles that I didn’t have any experience with. I love them all, but it’s very cool to have the Coregrafx.
A SEGA Neptune Mini can handle 3D Graphics and could get Disney Games (and SEGA games) from Genesis and, MarsterSystem.
Shining Force III is a must-have for the Sega Saturn Mini
If they put Nights, Sonic R and Burning Rangers on there, they should include the 3D controller. They all play a lot better with analog controls.
They won't. They don't have the capacity to remanufacture their old analog controllers.
True, but the standard 6-button Saturn pad would totally suffice as far as I'm concerned. Boss freaking controller
Probably retro fighter Sega Megadrive/Saturn controller would be a better alternative for Sega Saturn 3D controller.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 The stick on the Retro Fighters MD/SAT controller is digital.
@@madhatter8508 USB version is analog, but the shoulder button is digital, not analog triggers.
If this thing was Japan only, Vampire Savior would definitely be on there. The Darkstalkers series was BIG in the fighting game circle back then.
I miss Darkstalkers. I had 3 on the PlayStation and it was probably my favorite fighting game on the system after Tekken 3.
Street Fighter Alpha 2 is a must-have for the Sega Saturn Mini!!!
I wish Alpha 3 got released in the States as that one was just as good as Alpha 2.
I do hope one day that can make a Sega Saturn Mini and a Sega Dreamcast Mini too!!
I want Sega to release a Model 2 and Model 3 mini with arcade perfect ports of all their games. Daytona USA, Scud Race, all the Virtua Fighters, etc.
Yes. The Astro City Mini gave me hope for the models 2 and 3.
A Plug N Play steering wheel with all the racers from it would be my dream
Years later and they do the model 2 and it’s a pretty cool console
Give me Shinobi X, the game is very under appreciated. I’ll also take both clockwork knights as well
Yes on Shinobi X. Screw Clockwork Knights though. There are a ton of 8 and 16 bit platformers better than that turd
@@madhatter8508 my nostalgia is high for both clockwork knight games plus they came out around the same time toy story came out so it always gave me that toy story feel
@@stevesteve0521 Thank god I'm not the only one to have loved the Clockwork Knight games!!!!! Always wished Sega would re release them in some form. Always thought they had a Christmas vibe to them.
Loved Shinobi X too though!! Great soundtrack throughout.
@@stevesteve0521 I will never understand why Toy Story never came out on the Saturn
@@madmarkc275 shinobi x soundtrack is fantastic and yes clockwork knight 1 and 2 are good
If one if these comes out, Sega needs to include Sonic X-treme's latest build, sort of like how Nintendo included Star Fox 2 (but not finished lol).
I don’t think there was ever enough finished of Xtreme to be even remotely presentable.
Hell I'm still hoping Sega can release a Game Gear Mini for the US.
@@completistjunky I think that was kind of a niche one although I am still surprised they sold that many varieties for those little guys. :0
@@SegaLordX That's unfortunate if true. It'd still be a nice piece of history preserved on official hardware.
It'd be cool to play out of curiosity. But in my view, it was always a stupid idea.
I'd love to own a Saturn Mini. It would be my first Saturn console and if it's a good quality product, I would cherish it forever.
And unfortunately that gives me horrible flashbacks to the PlayStation mini. If only the emulation hadn't just been off the shelf free emulation software that they just took and removed the information giving credit to the creators. We haven't yet seen 32-bit games properly emulated on a mini and I feel like I doubt Sega would be the first.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu The crazy thing is the PS1 mini can run PS1 games well, it's just Sony did a crap job with it. The PS1 mini once modded is a dream to enjoy.
@@VirajKathwadia agree, cheap to
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu PS Mini was very disappointing for me. Guess Genesis/MD mini and Astro City mini turned out to be alright? We can hope for Sega to be commited to quality mini console product releases. I'd love to experience classic Saturn games with a beautiful game selection GUI, proper performance and save states. These games deserve to shine on a official mini console product.
@@VirajKathwadia
Yeah it really shows how little Sony cared about it. It could have been done competently but it was simply rushed and broken.
Fighters Megamix is a must have
I wish Sega would release a Sega Saturn Mini so badly
Sega re-released Daytona HD for PS3 and 360, so I feel it still has a chance and that plus Sega Rally are totally Saturn staples. A lot of the costs would be trying to get Saga on the mini but it's practically essential at this point.
What costs? Yabause runs Panzer Dragoon Saga just fine, in HD with upscaling and smoothing.
@@madhatter8508 Storage space
@@l3rvn0 storage space would be no problem.Look at the Playstation mini (with Final Fantasy VII and Metal Gear Solid) or even the Turbografx mini (with a lot of PC engine CD games,some of them like Ys both in english and japanese).
@@l3rvn0 2.4 GB isn't that much unless you're trying to store it on a potato
Albert Odyssey, Legend of Oasis, Shining the Holy Ark, Iron Storm ( not at all likely 😆), Ghen War, who am I kidding none of them are at all likely. Knowing Sega they’ll just give us Clockwork Knight and Bug!
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Solid, smart picks. I'd add Astal because of how much of a showpiece it is for its 2D prowess. Definitely agree that Dragon Force and Shining the Holy Ark would be on an ideal version of a Saturn Mini.
A Sega Saturn Mini would be awesome!!
Shining Ark and Dragon Force would also be on my want list. As well as all 3 parts for Shining Force III.
Bug is actually Steven Spielberg's favorite Saturn game.
I had completely forgotten about that little nugget of info. 🤣
I don't know how to feel about that.
It's an interesting little nugget though I'll give it that.
Really? I don't know why I find that surprising. I mean, it was a pretty competent pseudo-3D platformer, but I would have assumed his favorite Saturn game would be a bit more..."grandiose". 😅
The Turbo Grafx 16 wasn't a commercial success yet it was released as a mini console...👍👍
I'm waiting for the Dreamcast mini
Crazy to think that Sega still ignores the potential of the Saturn's library... A collection of games or even a mini console would sell like crazy. The Saturn was a true gem of a console!!!!
At the very least, a modern compilation would be nice
Nights is a great pick for the Sega Saturn Mini!!
Yeah I remember as much as I do like the Xbox version that I play it does eliminate a couple glitches that are essential for the score attack runs!!!
This got me thinking how the Saturn “3D” controller would be a must if Nights made the cut.
Sonic 3 and S&K are finally getting re-released next year, so Sonic Jam could happen now.
I can't wait till we find out what happened there. Is it really that whole music/Michael Jackson thing because the fact it was last released I believe just before his death and hasn't been released since certainly makes me think it was.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu either they got the music rights issue settled, or they will be replacing the impacted songs with the original songs found in the prototype ROM that were also used in the PC version.
@@Ashura96
Like I said can't wait to find out which way they went. I honestly think it probably is they just worked out rights for the original stuff. I can't imagine Sega doing extra work.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu It wasn't Michael Jackson or his estate that was the issue, it was his co-writer Butthole Brad Buxer.
You are correct!... but Sega had to remove Michael Jackson's music and do a remaster. That's the only reason it's been tied up so long.
I’d totally buy a Saturn Mini !!
I agree with the games you mentioned. Don't think Sega would do it but it would be great if they release it. Though I would like to see original Panzer Dragoon & Sega Rally in the collection & Clockwork Knight.
See, I just really wish Sega would show ANY attention to the Sega CD or Saturn library. I think even a Sega CD mini would be cool, even. Or just a game collection of any kind, like with what they do all the time with the Genesis library.
I would love a Sega CD mini.
@@Konuvis alongside a duo genesis and sega cd console or trio console with the 32x.
If they can sort out the legal issues with Sonic 3 & Knuckles, a Genesis 2 / CD 2 mini is a distinct possibility. Maybe it would half half Genesis / half CD games, or just a couple CD games. Either way I think a second Genesis Mini is coming someday and it will have CD and maybe even 32X games on it.
I don't think they would do another Genesis Mini but I could see a Sega Cd / 32X mini.
@@Konuvis They'll never do a standalone CD or 32X mini because nobody bought those consoles. The best we can hope for is a Genesis Model 2 mini with CD and 32X games on it
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Love tour picks. Realistic to me. I own de Saturn, but I would surely love to add a Saturn Mini to the Collection if SEGA would release it. Hopes op. 😁👍🏻
What a forward thinking video. I could see a Saturn mini soon and hope people support it and give their opinions to number one show support, but also let them know just how informed we are now and what they should include.
I do feel like the realistic version of the list is probably the more realistic and the fact it would *probably* be Japanese only. Like SLX said the chance of anything that is untranslated getting translated or anything like that is highly unlikely.
Plus most of the licensed stuff because they don't want to pay for that either. It's basically the same problem something like the Dreamcast mini would be faced with. A high amount of best stuff people want are owned by other companies.
I would absolutely buy a Saturn Mini day one!! Although, yes, this would be a niche product in the US so it is highly unlikely.
However, there was TurboGrafx-16 Mini released, so you never know.
It is so disappointing that a lot of these Saturn games are locked away on the original system. Also, a lot of 2D games that were both on the Playstation and Saturn were arguably better on the Saturn.
I do like the 22 picks on the system and understand licensed games would be out.
However, I'd also love to see other games such as Fighting Vipers, Fighters Megamix, Gex, Earthworm Jim 2, Bug Too!, Mega Man X3, Lunar Silver Star Story, Astal, Dragon Force, Clockwork Knight 1&2, Bust-A-Move 2, and Silhouette Mirage.
32 bit era 2D games have aged better than 3D games. If you take the Saturn's best looking 3D games like VF2/Sega Rally, then pair it up with the incredible 2D games and treasure exclusives, people who skipped it may have their mind blown in terms of how it aged next to PS1 and the N64/fog. It shines with its strength, nobody cares anymore that Destruction Derby and Toshinden looked like crap, yet that was the stuff of obsession for a while when the console launched at a high price point.
Solid list, SLX, many logical choices and a few Saturn homer favorites as well.
Return Fire has been one of my favorites on the 3do for years. I never realized it had a cancelled Saturn port, so I learned something there. Great video, homie.
My list for a Saturn mini?
-> Street Fighter Alpha 3
-> Marvel Super Heroes vs Capcom
-> Die Hard Arcade
-> Nights
-> Mega Man X4
-> Mega Man 8 (it does have exclusive content on the Saturn, after all)
-> Sega Rally
-> Fighting Vipers
-> Fighters Megamix
-> Quake
-> Duke Nukem 3D
-> Saturn Bomberman
-> Radiant Silvergun
-> Wasn't there a mech combat game on the Saturn? Not virtual on... much more visually demanding if I recall. Not that Virtual On couldn't be on the list, just that if they want something that would stand out and also appeal to the realism nerds, it'd be hard to ignore the merit of it.
-> As "out there" as this would be, wishful thinking would want Crusader: No Remorse to see its day on the Saturn Mini.
There’s the Gungriffon games, A.m.o.k and merch warrior. There’s also fighting games like robo pit and cyberbots.
@@stevesteve0521 Yeah, when I started idly searching by title, I realize the game I was thinking about was GunGriffon specifically. Didn't even know Amok or Mechwarrior existed on the Saturn.
I'd hope they could release a few 4mb ram cart games for the Saturn gamers who never imported. Every one of them is playable in English. SFAIII, Vampire Savior or the D&D collection would be my choices, i'm sure the Marvel games would have licensing hurdles but in my opinion the three I listed are more fun and I come back to them.
Yeah, the 4MB ram requirement wouldn´t be an issue anymore. The D&D collection isn´t in english however.
Also would want all scenarios of the Shining Force games as well as Dragon Force games.
Street Fighter Zero 3 is playable in English? I owned X-Men vs Street Fighter & Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter back in the day and neither one had English modes that I remember (X-Men for sure didn't, maybe I missed it on MSH cuz I didn't play that as much?). Vampire Savior for sure did and D&D I have no idea, but it had the recent rerelease on modern systems so even if it didn't it's not like they'd have to put much work into patching in a translation. I'd love for some of the 1mb RAM cart games too like the SNK games. Pocket Fighter would be another one I'd love to see. The Saturn version was WAY better than the PS1 release and even though it didn't require the RAM cart to play, it had extra animation and sequences like combo endings that would knock the opposing character into orbit that wouldn't play if you didn't have the RAM cart in. God I loved that system. In my perfect world not only would have every game on the video and that we've discussed, but Dragon Force I & II, Wachenroder, all three Shining Force III chapters, Albert Odyssey, Princess Crown, Shining the Holy Ark, and even Sonic Jam, not cuz anyone *needs* another Genesis Sonic compilation, but just cuz the 3D Sonic museum hub world was *that* good.
Now we just need a Sega CD Mini...
@@dansaikyo6664 They weren't in English, but they sure as heck worked on the US Saturn and they should translate them in English.
@@enriquepinero707 Vampire Savior had a hidden option mode that let you change it to English. I doubt Sega would invest any money or effort into translations, though I can dream. SFA/SFZ3 has been translated on other formats though already so it's not like it would be too much work to patch it in.
Decathlete or Winter Heat would fill the sports niche, as it wouldn't require any licensing. If it came down to a platformer like Bug, hopefully Sega would opt for Clockwork Knight 2 instead!
Hopefully Sega would opt for neither of those games and instead include a letter of apology for letting fans of platformers down on the American Saturn.
SEGA owns Bought Bug! and ClockWork Night. I Don’t think they have to choose between the two.
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I believe we're closer to a Dreamcast Mini because the emulation is in much better shape but I wouldn't be surprised if SEGA just don't release any more mini systems at all, we all know how prone they're to make weird decissions.
The problem is that Brad Buxer hoards the music rights to Michael Jackson's songs in Sonic 3.
There are versions of Sonic 3 with different music (The PC release I think). I don't see why they couldn't just use those tunes instead.
Sega: "Aw HELL NAW! There's now way a multimillion dollar company like us could sort out legal issues with ONE guy! THAT'S INSANE!!! Even if it's considered the best game in the franchise, it's not worth the hassle. Let it linger in obscurity."
Also Sega: "Let's put those Mickey Mouse games on our Genesis Mini. Paying out the a** towards one of the richest companies in the world is no issue whatsoever."
If it doesn't make business sense or common sense, then it's Sega Sense!
@@ClankZappa85 They just completely hate their fans.
@@Gatorade69 yeah. It’s an easy fix.
@@Nathan-rb3qp Yeah. That too.
It doesn't matter if they miss out on easy money by one of their biggest consumer bases as long as they stick it to us gaijin, right?
Cotton Saturn Tribute is being released for the Switch and PS4 in the form of a Japanese and Asian physical release via Playasia on Sep 30, 2021 so I hope that Cotton 2 is not included in a hypothetical Saturn mini console but it wouldn't hurt, I would like to see Sega Saturn Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus on a Saturn mini. A mix of the best of Japanese, American, and PAL games would be highly appreciated.
No pal games unless they have been optimised to run at 60hz look what happened to the playstion mini when they did it on there.
@@brendanroberts1310 What game in particular on the PS mini?
Awesome picks, also congrats on hitting 100k, been watching your videos since the early days! Hopefully the saturn mini eventually happens haha!
My brother bought me that Bandai model kit for the Sega Saturn and I just recently found out there's a guy who modified a raspberry pi device with a little mini USB connection to accept controllers so you can actually play Saturn's on that little tiny model!
It's a bit involved something I probably wouldn't do as I'm not that confident in my soldering skills (even though I did fix my own game gear and it's screen to modern LED), but still...at least it's an option?!? XD
Yeah I'm still surprised Nintendo hasn't done it N64 mini, and definitely surprised Sega hasn't done a Dreamcast mini.... but I do think the vmu would hold it back a little bit. I remember at least for serious, non hacked Chao raising, it was absolutely essential to have!
Nintendo basically had a N64 mini.... In China. It was one of those plug and play controllers.
The way the Sega Genesis mini works it wouldn't affect a Dreamcast mini and the virtual memory unit (VMU) wouldn't hold it back as it's just a save state.
Saturn emulation is fantastic these days. I've only ever seen one or two games where frame rate tanks, but it's getting to be on par with Playstation emulation for the most part. If Sega finally makes it happen, that would be great. I'll buy one for sure.
If not, I still have a decent selection in the physical collection I have slowly been building for the past decade.
That's good. There's a lot of Saturn games I want to try and I just bought a beefy PC.
I'm actually more excited about hopefully being able to emulate Dreamcast/PS2/GameCube and Wii games at higher resolutions than play new PC games.
PlayStation emulation has been great for a long time. I was emulating PS1 perfectly in 2002.
What emulator is the best for Saturn?
@Loren Helgeson. Saturn emulation for Android phones is still hit and miss as there are only 2 available (really only 1) and it's hit or miss. Some games play fantastically with no slow down/frame rate issues, freezing, music or audio glitches. But other titles have many of the aforementioned problems including games which don't work at all. Saturn PC emulation is superior to Android phones.
A Sega Saturn mini would be phenomenal. But I won't get my hopes up high for a release anytime soon. Lol.. And even if one does come out, many titles wouldn't even make it. But that could be easily overcome by allowing gamers the ability to play games in addition to having preloaded games.
@@kenallen8213 Can you recommend some Saturn emulators for PC ?
I hope they don't do exactly what they did with their mini arcade and only have the US version through limited run games.
What I’d like to see:
- Panzer Dragoon Saga
- Burning Rangers
- Deep Fear
- Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
- Shin Megami Tensei: Soul Hackers
- Policenauts
- Mega Man X4
- Mega Man 8
- Dead or Alive
- Resident Evil
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
- Sonic Jam
- Virtua Fighter 1 & 2
- Sakura Wars 1 & 2
- Street Fighter Alpha 2
- Guardian Heroes
- Saturn Bomberman
- Shining Force III
- Shining the Holy Ark
- Shining Wisdom
Licensed games aren't completely out of the question, no one saw it coming when Castle and World of Illusion ended up on the Genesis Mini after all.
Here's an idea, they don't need to limit themselves to just Saturn games, you know how the Genesis Mini also had brand new ports of Darius and Tetris? They could do that with Sega System 32 games that SHOULD have been on the Saturn back in the day like Outrunners and Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder.
I’d really love it if they put Dragon Force. I think they might also add that golden axe fighting game. But i would immediately buy it if they put Revenge of Death Adder on it as a bonus game similar to how the SNES mini put starfox 2. I know it was never released on the saturn but that was a mistake they could well remedy here. The saturn is certainly more than capable.
I feel like Symphony of the Night would be an excellent bonus game that would garner a lot of attention. M2 could fix all the mistakes in that port the same way they improved Mega Man The Wily Wars on the Genesis mini - it would be a lot more work, but worth the effort.
This is a nice, realistic list for sure my friend. Good work
Great video. I'm really hoping something like this happens and I'd be thrilled with this game list. I know you mentioned the Saturn wasn't very popular in the US but the TurboGrafx 16 Mini seems to have been a big success (at least it was/is darn hard to get one at a decent price if you didn't get one in the initial batches) and the Turbo wasn't popular so I'm hoping this might give Sega incentive to do something similar with the Saturn. I'll keep hoping anyway (and that they do it themselves and not give it to AT Games).
Great picks. However, if Nights/Christmas Nights were included, you might expect a remade 3D Control Pad to come with the system? Also, I think maybe Fighting Vipers and Fighters Megamix would make an appearance as hidden/bonus games.
Street Fighter Alpha 3 gold would be my pick for a Saturn mini
X-men vs Street Fighter would be my pick.
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Great video! I agree with all your choices, they really do seem likely the likely candidates. I would love a Saturn mini. I'm not great at setting up emulation and so I haven't been able to re-discover the Saturn library.
If you could only have FIVE US-released games to represent the entire Saturn experience which would they be? Fighter - VF2, Shooter - Panzer2, Platformer - Nights (it's a flying platformer), RPG - PDS, Strategy - ShinignForceIII. Beatem Up - Gaurdian Heroes, Sports - worldwide soccer 97. Puzzle - Super Puzzle Fighter. Three major genres and some minor unmentioned genres get cut...
This, but Fighter Megamix because it's Sega's Smash Bros, Daytona CCE instead of Soccer, and while not exactly a puzzle game, Saturn Bomberman instead of Puzzle Fighter
@@l3rvn0 yeah fighter's megamix is a great point. Also the racing I totally forgot and rally or daytona are more "saturn". I put on VF2 to marvel at the look of it for the time, but when I actually want to play a lot I put in Fighters Megamix. It's really hard to boil it down to 5 games, with ten games you can really capture the entire experience though.
That's more than 5 games, and Sonic 3D Blast because Nights is an absolute dog turd of a game especially on a digital controller.
I was listing iconic game from every genre and asking what 5 define the console. Action platforming is the only genre other than American football where the Saturn is way below to PS1 and N64. Did a lot of people play Nights at the time without the 3D controller? I thought the vast majority sold with the anlalog packed in, that's what I got. I use the 3D controller almost exclusively. The d pad and buttons are very similar, the shoulder buttons were the best to ever exist for almost 2 decades, a dream for driving games. It looks clunky but it feels great and is the father of most modern game pads, certainly more than PS1's uncomfortable feel they've slowly evolved away from.
Once again another quality video, thank you good sir!
I still play my see-through (skeleton) Sega saturn a lot. Love me some burning rangers and guardian heroes! Great vid!
Would love a Saturn Mini... but a Dreamcast Mini would be amazing. Hopefully Sega can make it happen 🙏
Never owned a Saturn but always wanted one, odd friend or two had it and it had really good looking RPG's on it. I missed out on the Dreamcast as well but not sure I missed much with that one.
Dreamcast had Skies of Arcadia and Grandia II but other than that there wasn't much else in the way of RPGs.
All this Saturn talk makes me sad, remembering back to having one growing up and selling it for $70 at a flea market, complete in box with 10 games and two controllers. I would give anything to have it back.
Well, if you would give ANYTHING, you could always buy it back for $1000 or so. LOL!
@@guruthosamarthruin4459 LOL! True, but I guess it was mostly because the saturn I sold had sentimental value. :) but my childhood dreams of a Dreamcast clouded my vision at that time.
I would want to see Elevator Action Returns on there. That game is sooo addicting, art style still holds up well and has stellar soundtrack. Not sure if that would fall under the licensing issues you were explaining in this video.
I am and always will be a Sega fan! We need a Saturn someday, I would buy it myself or build one if a case is made.
Some good choices
NiGHTS into Dreams
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Saturn Bomberman
Burning Rangers
Guardian Heroes
Radiant Silvergun
Sakura Taisen
Astal
Croc
BUG!
Clockwork Knight
Sonic R
Dynamite Dekka
Dragon Force
Virtua Fighter 2
Daytona USA
Panzer Dragoon II Zwei
Megaman 8
Gunbird
Deep Fear
Psychic Ninja Taromaru
Last Bronx
Your new intro looks snazzy as hell!!!
Thanks. I like it too.
@@SegaLordX The fade in is rough but otherwise the new opening looks slick.
Good picks. I think a compilation release is more likely and I'd be okay since the price tag would be less. But I know the mini consoles usually appeal to collectors
Great list, i’d be happy with all of those “most likely” picks
I feel you could add in some more games like "Dark Savior" or "Dracula X : Nocturnal in the Moonlight", but I'm happy with the one has been chosen.
And yes I would love to own a Sega Saturn Mini
I'd love to see a Dreamcast mini with a built-in modem for online play
dial up! 😄
Imagine if they actually put Phantasy Star Online on that
I would slam my money down day one for a Saturn mini! Especially with this lineup.
I would say, even though Megaman X4 is one of my favorite games of all time, I think a possible reason to include Megaman 8 is because the Saturn version has exclusive content and some minor changes for the better, and that version of Megaman 8 has never been rereleased. As far as I know, X4 is identical on both platforms in terms of content
Having Cut Man and Wood Man as mini bosses in two stages and different music for the Tengu Man stage.
@@dustman820 Yep! It's some really cool stuff
If Sega released Sega Saturn mini consoles in North America right now people would buy them without question. We're tired of dealing with scalpers and ridiculously high prices for Saturn games. They need to stack these mini consoles with games! 40+ like they did with the Genesis mini. Sega needs to give us the best and we need the best of the Japanese games in North America, games that are playable and games that we did not get.
5:28 I was hoping you'll say you want Saturn Bomberman on the Sega Saturn Mini! Since I am a semi-professional/veteran Bomberman player started on Bomberman 64 and getting myself into the 2-D Bomberman games. I'll be happy to fork over the money to Sega via a amazon preorder. :D
I'd swap Bug for Pandemonium or Clockwork Knight 2 if one pseudo-3D platfomer is a must.
Nice channel. Glad TH-cam directed me here. Were this to occur - I would play just about all these games
Would 100% buy a mini saturn 🤘
I would buy 3. One to display, one to play as stock, and one to mod. I'd even buy 1-2 Japanese models. Can't wait until emulation is flawless for Saturn.
Just display the box lol
A Saturn mini if released soon would be at least double the price of the other classic mini's so there's at least a grand you need to put aside lol
I think Shin Megami Tensei: Soul Hackers could work on a Saturn mini considering it got an English translation on the 3DS, though I dunno if Sega or Atlus would be up for applying the translated 3DS scripts to the OG Saturn version.
But of the two MegaTen games on the Saturn, Soul Hackers has the best chance of appearing on a Saturn mini.
I don’t think Atlus has any interest in localizing the original Devil Summoner unfortunately.
Man that would be awesome. Do you know if anyones taking that 3DS translation and applied it to the Saturn game? I have the 3DS version but the look of the Saturn is just a lot nicer imo. If not, hope that's a thing someday as its a solid title for sure.
No, they would not. Sega do not want to do anything unless it's handed to them on a silver platter. They did not even want to make the Genesis Mini themselves and were only forced to by fans getting buttmad about it
@JoeZep unfortunately nobody seems to be working on a patch for the Saturn version of Soul Hackers. There was an English patch in the works for the PS1 version but was canceled as the 3DS version got localized.
There is an English patch in the works for the original Devil Summoner, but only the PSP port unfortunately.
@JoeZep actually I stand corrected. There is a group that is in the process of making an English patch for the Saturn version of Soul Hackers called TraduSquare, unfortunately one of their guys told me it isn’t an active project and they’re not sure when they’ll get back to working on it. They said they’ll upload the technical docs though.
@@alexjones3511 Hey thanks for the replies. Yeah I had seen that PSP one around, might have to look into that more someday when I actually own one to mess with. Yeah I think I mighta found that same project after doing a little searching after my first comment to you. Shame it's not being worked on, but if it's documented well at least maybe there's hope of it seeing the light of day sometime. Thanks for the info! :)
I always wonder who downvotes these videos and why. The amount of work and love you put into each one is so apparent. Love your channel, never a dull video. Hope you're doing well.
I recently got a fenrir for my 21 pin saturn. Reliving so many classic games.
they could just do a saturn game collection for consoles and pc, would probably sell a lot more than a mini console would
I love this channel but the love for Saturn is in a very tiny minority. Very few would buy this.
I loved my Saturn. Lots of great nostalgia there. That being said, this won’t happen. Aside from a handful of folks our age, nobody cares about the Saturn. Perhaps a Japanese version would be made and you could import one.
I'm honestly thinking something similar or maybe Sega of America like has a website where you can order it but if you don't get like within the window you probably would miss out.
Hey stranger things have happened!
TG16 mini sold way better in the US than I'd have ever dreamed. It was much more obscure. My home town in the midwest had several stores selling Saturn until it was discontinued, you couldn't buy TG16 games there. Pretty much every rental shop rented Saturn games, there was just one place to rent TG16 games and zero places to buy them.
@@caseyhayes4590 I was totally excited about getting a TG-16 mini, but after finding out a lot of games were in Japanese, including the biggest reason I wanted one, for Snatcher, I just couldn’t get behind it.
@@famousmcfly80 Have you played Snatcher? I think the US Sega CD port is actually the best in content/quality even including the 32 bit versions. A lot of people hung up on the PCE port because of 10 seconds of uncensored content, but really I think Sega CD port is the best port of the game on any platform. If the PCE version really was superior I'm sure we'd have had a fan translation long ago. I get what you mean though, PCE RPGs are probably the biggest untranslated treasure trove now that Saturn RPGs are getting translated frequently.
Great video, and a very practical list. I could see a couple more fighting games getting a spot, maybe something from the Darkstalkers franchise, or Fighting Vipers/Fighter's Mega Mix.
Regarding the chances we'll ever see the Saturn Mini, I think it's possible. Even though the Saturn didn't sell well outside of Japan, a lot of its games and franchises have become either well known or cult classics. A reasonably priced Saturn Mini that gave people a chance to finally play Panzer Dragoon Saga would at least sell pretty well. Especially now, with the added interest in retro games fueled by TH-cam creators (including you!).
I think a bigger obstacle is the weird hardware architecture of the Saturn causing emulation issues. I haven't been keeping a close eye on the Saturn emulation scene, and I'm glad to hear it's improving, but I wouldn't be surprised if emulating that unique system architecture meant requiring a bit more powerful hardware than something like the PSX Mini, which could drive the cost up a bit. Still, as someone who missed out on the Saturn (only rented one a few times), I'd love to be able to get a Saturn Mini so I could experience these amazing games.
I'd also love to see you make an equivalent video of your picks for a Dreamcast Mini. Keep up the awesome content! :D
Guardian Heroes I've been waiting ever since before the Saturn's release to play it so if its on a mini console I'll be buying one and yes as SLX mentioned it just wasn't as popular as it could have been in my part of the world I would rent a Saturn often from my local video store and the Virtua Cop series with the light gun is phenomenal and it felt every bit as good as the arcade in my opinion
Did you know that Guardian Heroes was re released with improved graphics on Xbox Live Arcade ( Xbox 360 ) ? It is backwards compatible on the xbox one and series consoles too. I still play it every once in a while. Still holds up too.
@@Belouknow25 I literally just checked and bought it after reading your comment. And it is up and running on my series x. $4.99
Yes I did thanks I'm planning on getting a xbox s or x when I move into my new place but it would still be great to own it on a mini console my move out date is still a few more months away though I also have had it running under emulation over the years but it was still a wip so far from ideal
I have multiple consoles that I intend to get flash carts or ODEs for and the Saturn is first on the list. Lot of good games, and rpgs are my favorites
If this was the actual lineup all I would play is shining force, guardian heros, VF2 and tomb raider.
I would buy the Japanese version and hack it to include all the fan translations of the games Sega of America dropped the ball on. Not paying one penny to Sega of America.
before i watched i said Panzer 2 better be on this list & Sega Lord starts off the video with PD2 episode 4 music... see, _this_ is why I sub to this channel.
Great line-up, I would definitely buy both the Japanese and NA version. If only Sega considered it!
I hate to say this but I highly doubt a saturn mini would come to the u.s. . I could see them doing a Dreamcast mini before the Saturn .
Wouldn't it be magical if gex or the crow made it
Hey man, Gex wasn't that bad. I know it's a joke now but it really isn't an awful game like the Crow.
@@Gatorade69 I know I was serious about gex I actually always thought he was pretty cool
I legit google where to preorder as soon as this dropped - you TEASE!
Nice reasoning on these. I can definitely see the Sega thought process in these picks. The newly made Sakura Wars fan in me would want them included in the hypothetical western version, which considering the ps4 title exposing the series here as well the fan translations recently made, I think they might entertain that idea more than say, before 2019/20. Another title I understand the ommission here is Last Bronx. That game needs love
tfw I have about half of these games.
edit: also surprised no Virtual On: Cyber Troopers.
Yes! Virtual On over Return Fire as a Japanese bonus game.Though there is the issue of the twin stick being far superior for true arcade diehards.
@@william137 it's still super playable with the saturn game pad. I've owned the game since I was 5, so that's all I've ever known, lol
@@mistersomaru I agree, the generous lock-on assistance made the console port more than serviceable - and still fun as hell. The arcade controls felt like a different beast; even though twin stick is a retro setup, that cabinet just felt futuristic AF. On console I only played with the 3D controller, so cool to hear that the gamepad controls are equally solid. Endless hours of mech melting with dual shoulder-mounted lasers XD
@@william137 only game I've ever had issues with the saturn game pad was Mega Man X4, and I fixed that with some remapping.
As cool as this would be I still wouldn't buy one for the reasons you mentioned. So many games wouldn't be on there due to copyrights etc. I'll stick to emulation.
What emulator are you using?
@@ESEJESEJ It's called Mednafen. It's the trickiest emulator I've ever had to setup but there are some good guides on YT if you follow them step by step. It runs everything pretty much flawlessly but there arent a lot of options for improving resolutions or anything like that. Controller setup is a pain in the ass as well but there are guides for that too and it's easy when you know how. If you get stuck gimme a shout and I'll try and help you out.
I was just daydreaming about this very idea today. Of course, my would-be Saturn mini console had about 80 games on it. lol
You came up with a good list. If Sega were to release one of these i would buy one since the Saturn i bought five years ago died on me. Im on my second unmodded model 2. Here is my list of ten games i would like to see on Saturn mini.
1.Bug
2. Die Hard Arcade
3. Marvel Vs. Capcom
4. Sega Ages Vol 1.
5. NBA JAM Tournament Edition
6. Daytona
7. Nights into Dreams
8. Sonic X
9. Golden Axe Trilogy
10. Mortal Kombat 3
Golden Axe Trilogy i made up they could put Golden Axe 1-3 and include Golden Axe Death Adder arcade game as an unlockable.