When Sega Saturn DESTROYED the PlayStation !
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- Lets talk about when the Sega Saturn Destroyed the Sony Playstation, leading the market in the first few years.
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Sega made some awesome stuff in their prime. It's really too bad things went the way they did with Sega.
Yeah I completely lost interest in modern consoles after Sega stopped making them. Saturn and Dreamcast were both amazing consoles. Too bad they didn’t have the success Genesis/Megadrive had.
@@AngryCalvin Bad marketing, bad decisions on third party, bad management between SoJ and SoA from the Genesis era, bad add-ons.
@@Zeeboklown the Wii U before the Wii U
Who knows, if Sega has continued success with their software, they may give making consoles another try.
I remember seriously doubting Sony with it's original playstation, but it quickly pulled ahead with great games.
I am a Saturn fan girl. I love the Saturn because of one game. Sega's Outrun is arcade perfect and is the best game ever made in my opinion. At 46years old I still play it to this day at least once a week sometimes more hahaha!
i always loved outrunners but sadly it never got ported...
@@aerisgainsborough2141 Same. Outrunners was sheer perfection of the old school arcade racer.
Outrun is the goat and i have it on Switch.
A Saturn fan girl! Finally, I found my potential waifu!😍
So you love a console more for on game?
Sega’s Saturn had no chance as soon as Sony announced the PS price at $299 lol
“This is when the Sega Saturn destroyed the Sony PlayStation.”
Then how come I cannot remember ever seeing one in stores?
Because you lived in a hellhole?
Yaaay ! 😌😌😌😌
1995 was also a surprisingly strong year in the Mega Drive's library.
Nice one! I love the 32-bit era. The Saturn was amazing.
Best era in gaming.
I’m much more a Sega Saturn fan. The arcade ports, fighting games, and overlooked gems are all fantastic. Too many interesting gems never made it out of Japan unfortunately. Famous PlayStation titles are much more accessible and you can buy many of them on other systems. Saturn has a lot more titles you just can’t buy anymore anywhere at least at a price that won’t drive you crazy.
If there's one good thing Lady Decade said, it's "The Sega Saturn, a necessity for gracious living"
I remember the hype about the Saturn in the magazines leading up to launch and this gives me all the nostalgia feels.
I bought a Saturn the surprise day it came out here in the states. May something 1995. I had no business buying a $400 console and expensive games at the time (age 20 college student taking a semester off due to lack of tuition funds). But I did it anyway. Daytona, VF, Bug, Clockwork Knight, Panzer Dragoon. Not the best lineup but most were quite fun in their own way. I remember the free VF Remix disc. And then there was VF2. And lots of other great games.
How times change. I'm 48 now and even with 28 years of inflation I'm now pretty shy about spending $400 on anything I don't have to. Real world bills and some day retirement...
Ali express there is! I bought 14 USD 4k game stick lite having MD, PS1 on it.
You've left the likes of Ridge Racer (launch title) and Toshinden out of the list of games released for the Playstation in 1994.
Toshinden was on Saturn as well. But I think it came out on the Saturn after the playsta release
Honestly it must be an awful feeling to have the lead early on, but then lose it and never get it back. I think all of us at one point in any competition have gone through that before.
*SEGA RALLY and Virtual Fighter 2 are the most amazing I've seen & played on a 32-Bit machine*
To be honest, the Saturn might probably have been the best console in its era. But it's also one of the first times Sega made one of its historical mistakes. This being the undocumented transparency effects for the software. Only very few ever figured it out, many developers quoted the Saturn was difficult to work on... The cause being the limited documented devkits.
There was also issues access both coprocessors at the same time. A hack was developed 8 months after launch.
I'd buy a Saturn Mini in a heartbeat if they put one out.
sega wont do it but maybe a 3rd party?
It would be too expensive for them to manufacture these consoles let alone market and sell them plus the looming fear of not selling well and the risk factor that hardware generally do not generate revenue. What they should do is re-print their old games for Saturn and Dreamcast or bring them to modern consoles. This will at-least generate them revenue
Just physical box with emulator inside? nah...
Just get the real thing. They're not expensive.
@@RedLine_Renesis What? The Saturn is one of the MOST expensive retro gaming system you can think of.
Have you checked the games prices on eBay?
Considering the resurgence of 2D gaming in recent years, I would think a lot of the Saturn's library might be more appreciated nowadays.
Do we need a MiniSaturn? Where are the other Minis?
@louistournas120 If we get one it better have Christmas NiGHTS as well as the original game.
Back then though It felt like a losing cause especially when sega saturn collapsed. If you invest on a console that was at the near end then why go for it? It is not a smart logical decision to make. As for me, I went from SNES to PS1 to Xbox. No regrets here especially since I love the Halo games (Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3). My K/D online in multiplayer was 1.04 in Halo 2. Halo 3- 1.46 (Isolation map 1.91). Halo 4- 1.66 and Halo 5 - 1.87.
My friend had a Saturn. It was my first time seeing a next gen 'console' with fast 3D in person. I got a slight preview of what was to come with the Sega CD system, and Silpheed 🥰 My friend had Virtua Fighter and Panzer Dragoon
The original Virtua Fighter and its sequel are my favorite fighting games of all time. The graphics, music, gameplay, and presentation all come toghether to create something truly special and one-of-a-kind. And that's what I love about SEGA, always making special stuff.
I never knew anybody that had a Sega Saturn or Sega CD but I had a had friend that had the sega channel order any games you want sega was ahead of it's time I still got my sega
When I was young my neighbours lent me thier Saturn, I was blown away
The Saturn wouldve been a winner if the saturn wasnt such a pain to program for, 3rd party support was laughable too. (because it was a pain to program for lol) Fun Fact Kings Field was From Software first. MAN IT WAS HARD!!!!
Plus, spring 1995 suprise launch
The processor- co processor split behind its design was one of the factors that lead to it's downfall. Not to mention the lack of programming support to port titles to this console.
In addition, bad marketing and management
@@maroon9273 all true, but porting games to this console was a pain in the ass comparatively to any other system in the market.
When I was a kid I saw my first 3D game on demo in a shop, it totally blew my mind. I never ended up owning that game and trying to remember it later, I had some idea it was Sega, and thought it must have been a Dreamcast game - in my memory it looked so beautiful and so advanced. I've since found out it was Nights Into Dreams on the Saturn. That console definitely had some magic!
The Saturn had some amazing JRPG’s like “Dragon Force”, “Shining the Holy Ark”, “Panzer Dragoon Saga”, “Shining Force III”, and others. Sadly many of those were forgotten due to being stuck on the Saturn until emulation allowed more people to discover them.
I'd say Saturn's downfall really hinged on a lack of Sonic. Its importance can't be overstated, had they got Sonic out after a year or so they could have easily kept the momentum up.
It would still fail. The were too few decent games in it's library. Look at the comment's section. Only game they're mentioning are Virtua Fighter and Panzer Dragoon that's it. Sry if i sound like Sega hater but this is the truth. Sega's hay day was 8-bit and 16-bit era. I really love Sega Genesis but they couldn't keep up with the other giants and their business/marketing strategy failed which is sad
I like how the basic story of Sega is that some smart American marketers almost rescued this failing Japanese console maker but the latter took it personally so they decided to fail anyway out of spite
When you to took the honor thing too far.
7:42 That's not Rad Racer, that's Rad Mobile! Rad Racer is an NES game lol
I remember buying my Sega Saturn back in the day it was so amazing. Eventually I had no choice but to get the PlayStation 1 because no games were getting released on the Saturn. Sega Saturn was the best console of the generation it still blows my mind that it failed.
Yeah I had a Saturn too and still do to this day. I know what you mean though. We had to get a PS1 aswell and it was nice have best of both worlds.
how does it blow your mind when you literally highlighted why it failed! jesus🤣🤣
Saturn was not as responsive as ps1. Plastics of the case also looks odd cheap material.
@@airmicrobe thats crazy because Saturn looked the best out of all the consoles from that era PS! just had more titles and studios to work with this was why saturn and dreamcast failed they didnt get the games PS1 was
@@noleyestoad4477 PS looked nicer. Saturn was simple CD deck
On paper the Saturn is superior to the Playstation but what truly made it fail was the games. Third party support was scarce and Sega made a big mistake by not making follow ups of its most popular games. No Sonic 4, no Streets Of Rage, Golden Axe, Shinobi, Outrun, Hang On and so many others. Another problem was the short gameplay of some games. For example, Sega Rally had 4 tracks, 3 cars and that was it. Sega also kinda disliked RPGs and kept pushing for somewhat average 3D games just to compete with the Playstation.
There was a Shinobi game for the Saturn. It just wasn't good.
There was also a new version of Hang On for the Saturn
Only issue with the Saturn is it's unfriendly programmable languages, vdp1 including it's ram and framebuffer (the lack of alpha blending/transpericies without the vdp2 chip) and lighting sources/Luminosity.
Had Sega resolve these issues before launching the console. The saturn would've been better performing console than the ps1.
@@maroon9273
The Saturn has more computational power and faster pixel drawing; the PS1 can only draw pixels through its polygon engine, whereas the Saturn can draw pixels directly with its processors, giving it more programming flexibility.
@@robsmall6466 I remember ManX TT Superbike but I never heard of a Hang On version.
The saturn consistently outsold the psx in Japan for a few years since they both launched at a similar time....until the launch of 1 game which was exclusive for the playstation...Final Fantasy 7. After that it was game over
This. The Saturn was number 1 in 1994-1997, and then, they gave up on it to focus on the Dreamcast, unfortunately.
I caught a glimpse of Grandia. One of the greatest jrpg's of all time.
Rolling start turned into rolling fart
Sega of America had their finger on the pulse.
Sega of Japan: No
Really? The 32X was having their finger on the pulse?
@@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 I mean Sega of America had the idea to switch the pack in game to Sonic and wanted to team up with Sony to make a console Sega of Japan said no and opposed many ideas SOA proposed.
I had the black Saturn now I have the white one forever a fan of Sega Saturn
The Saturn has the best variant of console with the stunning Hi Navi Saturn model, also a karaoké unit monster ( the super prologue 21) and last but not least the SGX model ( a coin hôtel Saturn with 7 cd changer… very very rare)
I read this long time ago: in Japan they counted ship units as units sold, but those units were actually sitting in the shops rather than in people's home. I don't believe Saturn was out selling PlayStation for long.
You obviously never heard of segata senshiro.
Love the subtle reference to Sega CD’s “angry black guy” ads.
You made my day, this really takes me back. Sega had it all, even down to subscription w/ SegaChannel. My only Sega was a CDX, the homie had a lot of Sega consoles so I shared into those experiences like Saturn, “tower of power”, Dreamcast, GameGear before brainwashing of PlayStation; owned 1-5 😅.
So many people either forget about or are too young to remember the Sega Channel. That was the progenitor to Gamepass and PS Network. Sega's biggest mistake in my opinion, was the Japanese and American companies competing instead of collaborating.
Sega channel change the games my friend had it never knew anyone that had sega cd and the saturn
Here in the USA almost no one had a Saturn. Everyone I knew had a PlayStation or later a Nintendo 64. No one cared about the Saturn and the Dreamcast a great system lost out because of that here. Not that Saturn was a bad system. It cost too much and did not have enough games on it. They had to sell it with 3 free games you get to choose to get it to sell at a big loose and still did not. What hurt them most was there were not enough 3D games and the few that there were, were not well-made and glitchy. In Japan, it sold better then the PlayStation and did a bit better in Europe than the USA. After Sega CD and then 32X I and many here lost all interest in Sega. Before that Sega was doing very well in the USA.
I liked the PlayStation, which had an 11-year lifespan in the US, the PlayStation 2, which had a 13-year lifespan in the US, the PlayStation 3, which had a 10-year lifespan in the US, and the PlayStation 4, which is still available in the US today, alongside the PlayStation 5.
The saturn was gash and was distraught when my bro came home with it instead of the ps
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Sega saturn did very well in Japan. And even outsold the Nintendo 64.
It was Sega's best console saleswise in Japan over their previous consoles. With the software they got over there, I can see why.
Sega did a dick dastardly move and was already winning but self sabotaged.
It was the range of games available for the Playstation which made all the difference. They were greater than Saturn games in both quality and quantity.
That title is a bit misleading since it was the best console for like 3 days…PlayStation swept them real fast.
No, was the best console until 1997. When FF7 came out on PS1 and Bernie Stolar said that "Saturn is not our future".
@@ClaudioVarone3299maybe in Japan. But I remember the hype of both systems. It was quite obvious most people were far more excited for the PS than they were for the Saturn. And even magazines like a EGM, Gamepro and Gameplayers clearly favored the PS before either system hit the market.
Dreamcast was the best console for a year until ps2 came out.
@@BobbyHo2022 it was the most powerful, not the best in terms of success. It died before both the PS1 and N64 which is pretty embarrassing. It essentially means the PS1 outcompeted both the Saturn and the Dreamcast.
Saturn deserved those games. The PS1 was a laggy mess full of graphical artifacts and fps drops. If it hadn’t have been literally blessed with games it would be remembered COMPLETELY differently.
I think I played a Saturn once in a store. No one I knew had it at the time. It's a great console for imports and has some amazing games. If I had it and a way to play imports back during release, I would have loved it as a kid.
The Saturn had many amazing games, but you needed a region converter/RAM upgrade combo cart to play some of them. Domestically, some of my favs were VF2, Dragon Force, Guardian Heroes, Fighters Megamix, Virtual On and (this one is debated but I liked it a lot) Manx TT Superbike. Japan exclusives I loved are Dead or Alive, Last Bronx and XMen VS Street Fighter.
Still waiting to see how it "DESTROYED" PlayStation...
Nice job on that coverage. I liked it a lot. I remember the Knight game, I think way back when. I was maybe 11 or 12? It was and looked tremendous.
I wish they'd put out a Saturn mini console. The two games I want are insanely expensive (over 200$ each).
I've always been a Sega Saturn over PlayStation guy.
mainly because you can play Marvel superheroes and X-Men versus Street Fighter and it performed arcade perfect.
I liked both consoles to be honest.
You forgot for the PS1 that Mahjong game was also released on it as well as Nekketsu Oyako, Ridge Racer and Tama: Adventurous Ball In Giddy Labyrinth so i have a feeling you're purposely leaving those games out to make the Saturn look better and also Ridge Racer was one of the best launch titles.
Thank you for the great mention of kings field...No one ever talks about that great game..
Sega Saturn was the BETTER CONSOLE but in the west it was just NOT able to compete with the price bracket of sony or the game libary
once you played X-men v Street fighter on Saturn you find it hard to play Any fighting game on PSone again,.
That's an opinion but I have seen direct comparisons of games that are both on PS1 and Saturn. Saturn is the weaker console. Re1 is a perfect example, only thing re1 version on Saturn that was better was an exclusive battle mode, but that would come out with RE2 dualshock and revamped as mercenaries in re3
Completely agree! Ram cart made all the difference
If only that slot allowed sega genesis games to be played as well..
SegaSaturn dominance is clear from 1994 to 1997. PlayStation became successful when Dreamcast arrived. Maybe that Sega should have delayed the release of the Dreamcast in Japan because the SegaSaturn was still a success in 1998.
3d games from the 90s aged poorly. Thus Sega Saturn is arguably the best system from that era to play nowadays. Also it has a surprising number of great exclusive games that have never been remastered. Panzer Dragoon Saga, Shining Force 3 and Dragon Force come to mind. A very underrated console...
Exactly. I have noticed that for a few exceptions like Lomax (2D platformer), I rarely play the PS1 anymore.
On the other hand, the Saturn has aged very nicely, thanks to its massive 2D games library.
I see Goemon on your shelf. A necessity for gracious living.
Sega Saturn wins because of one man! He beats you up if you’re not playing a Sega Saturn!
The way I remember it Saturn released to loads of hype, then PlayStation 1 released, Saturn flopped and the rest is history 🤷♂️
Sony pretty much steamrolled the competition from Sega AND Nintendo. It was over quite fast.
I dont think final fantasy was the reason why sony won. For my friends & I the main reason was the MOD CHIP. Being able to copy games and spread it around with friends was the main reason we all got ps1 & ps2. For a non- working high school student it was impossible to afford to buy games at the shop. But for the price of a blank cd/dvd $1 or $2 you could own those games.
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Most important missing part : Sonic
What a fresh take on this particular console war. Really enjoyed it.
I had both. all my friend had the PS. and the N64. almost no one had the sega saturn. only me. lol
My friends big brother, who is 41 now, owned the only Saturn I ever saw in the 90s. His room smelled like feet and BO so I didn't have a great impression, and the only game he had at all was Astal
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I personally feel both consoles compliment each others librarys especially with the Japanese saturn titles that
Theres an alt reality where i got a saturn instead of a ps1
I got a Saturn back in 96 to hook to my Mac and best decision ever 😃 The CD player was so cool and the console could read burned CDs. Also a few good games as well, like Warcraft 2, aliens and Daytona 😉
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Saturn was The 2d King with it's 4MB cart, Sony had the 3d. There were 2 engineers that made the Saturn slightly more powerful than the PlayStation with they modded it back then.
Great video
The play station was a better system than the Nintendo 64 at the time and the Sega Saturn wasn't even hardly mentioned. Most of it has to do with games, which some would argue is important .
Lady Decade, care to venture a guess why Minecraft with graphics on par with a Sega Saturn became so popular?
I'd love your insight.
I’ve had both. And I absolutely loved the PlayStation
Starting strong is okay... but it means nothing if you don't finish strong and that is true for anything in life.
As a kid i was a Genesis kid but when i saw the Saturn ads they didn't seem appealing and no one i knew had one.
The Best Buy and Toy r us near by only had the Playstation and N64 and my Cousin got a Ps1 with CTR and i got a N64 with Smash Bros.
The 1st time i seen a physical Saturn was my uncle gave me his that he got for free with the game Bug around 2005, i put it way for years and kept it, and years ago i got the retro bug and got a Mode, fram mod, recapped, Actionreplay cart and a 3d Controller and its one of my favorite retro consoles 😊
That's the key to enjoying the Saturn, skip the western developed software, get the Action Replay cart, get the superior import games, enjoy.
I remember getting it for my birthday and a few years later it was obsolete. I was so so mad. Still have some of the games
They should have localized more games. So many RPGs that never reached english speaking audiences. Cyber Doll is one of the most unique ones and nobody's ever heard of it. At least the fan translation scene is starting to pump out quality stuff now.
I remember when this came out. My brother and I worked and saved, lawns, driveways, papers, then we bought it. less than 2 weeks later they stopped making games and blockbuster only carried 3 games. lol. I do miss it and those days. heavily.
Funny true story. My parents took me to Toys R Us to go get a PlayStation. But I just happened to walk by a Sega Saturn 🪐 demo stand and it had Virtua Fighter 2 on it playable. I instantly fell in love and never regretted it. I eventually did get a PS1 and PS2. But the Saturn gave me so many memories as a kid
That was good. I enjoyed that video.
I'll give "Clockwork Nine" a try one way or another. I never realized that the game ever existed. It looks like "Castle of Illusion" on bath salts. Thank you for showing everyone games that we missed.
Saturn is my all-time favourite console thanks to the Japanese library. My creamy white Saturn is still very much hooked up to the big TV.
The Playstation may have gained in marketing, but the Sega Saturn is much more of a machine !!! TV advertising in Brazil at the time: Sega Saturn is from another world !!
when sega saturn disappeared and playstation is at their 5th device
great Video👍
It's possibly cutural, but Japanese launch games are just plain weird compared to what we had. I can't remember the Saturn's but the PlayStation's were: Ridge Racer, Destruction Derby, Battle Arena Toshinden, Lemmings 3D, Tekken, Cyber Sled, Air Combat and Wipeout. These were available at launch, as in the first week we saw plenty of others. In fact the reason some games had the double CD case, was because there wasn't enough of the Sony specific cases to meet sales.
I'm a Sega Saturn stan. I still sing it's praise to this day, they just didn't get enough proper game licensing of the major titles. I remember Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy 7 coming out and in a magazine they said the exclusivity of those popular titles helped Playstation leap ahead. The Saturn in terms of specs was a a more solid console. I played Darkstalkers on both consoles and the loading on Saturn was way faster while Playstation gave me time to go to the kitchen and make a sandwich lol
it was better just had no content to actually consistently enjoy that betterness🤣🤣
@@noleyestoad4477 let’s be real though, the PlayStation was a better 3d machine. I played both systems at the time and it was painfully obvious the ps had the superior 3d hardware.
@@Scopie33 not accurate sir! graphics were not really any issue! saturn just didnt have the support games wise PS did!
Sega and Nokia CEOs should be incarcerated for negligence. Imagine being pioneers and market gods to only lose out to newbies with no experience.
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I need to play more games from this system! I think I may this evening!!!
I have 3 Saturn's and 0 PS1's. All that needs to be said.
Aw but ps1 was good too
That 2 of those saturns were destroyed?
@@ArchangelRG09 No, different variants. Model 2 white Japan, Model 1 US, Model 2 US. I may or may not have a Saturn collecting issue...
@gibbles3216 ah lol well the only Sega console i owned was Genesis and i wanted Saturn and Dreamcast but problems were more variety of games were on other systems and of course money was a hard thing to come by so it was either one console or the other
@ArchangelRG09 I understand the money thing. Purchased all 3 when they weren't in and had the most interest. I was more of a Super Nintendo guy back then. I never had a Genesis. I played at my friends though. I had some love for it. I do have a Dreamcast as well. 3rd favorite retro console. It goes Neo Geo, Saturn, Dreamcast.
I had a Saturn, it was great but eventually I moved to the Playstation because here in Brazil it was so much easier to buy _I L L E G A L_ games. It reached a point that we were buying games for 2 Brazilian Robux a piece.
wow i member "D" my bro played it. D gave us a lot of Resident Evil vibes
One of the reason I bought saturn was the VCD function. Just like people bought PS2 only for the DVD player function. That really shows how good it was.
I wanted a Saturn so bad but there was no way my mom was buying another console so soon after we got the Sega CD and 32x.
Sega Saturn is my favorite console of all time: the exclusive JRPGs are so good
May the light of the SEGA Goddess shine upon all of you! 😌
LOVE YOUR VOICE AND CONTENT! I always thought that Sony pummeled Sega in that battle. Thanks for sharing this information.
Neo Geo content hopefully? Graphics of the Saturn and PlayStation seem to be a close run thing.
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