im open to it, im old, i dont always have time to play long matches most nights, so I play short, but those are too short. It should also fix saving a bit in pro play, rounds matter a lot more.
@@runek100 why not in pro? Like it will barely effect anything other than how long matches are, it will also improve the save mega which is currently dogshit.
@@Spetsnazty because on the highest level, they could crawl back and we saw it many times over. And they also winning pistols round a lot. But I have to see it in place to make definite opinion on it.
I'm MGE and I play short because I don't like using AWP and the longer the game, the more impact AWPs have, but I feel short is too short whereas long is too long. MR12 to me seems perfect as a solution to many problems.
MR12 is a good change. People who complain about bad MM should like this change. When you Q into a match your not getting the best experience. The player base is split between short and long matches. With everyone playing MR12 the MM should be more competitive in your rank.
Yupp. And split between faceit. The community needs to come all to one playlist. The barrier to faceit or just downloading it in general is a turn off to lots of people, and csgo mm is broke. They just need to make elo based ranks and bring it all together
"Most players play shot games anyway" - That's not true. The statistic about 55% short matches was about the *number of games played*. But with shorter games, it's obviously possible to play more games in a shorter amount of time. So if you account for that, long games are actually way more popular!
The first competitive FPS have been on a MR12 basis imo, at the beginning of CS, COD4, now Valorant, for people having played Battalion 1944, same thing, I feel like it is a great compromise between viewers and gamers' experience, some Grand Finals can be very long sometimes, even more when there are OTs, longest map of CSGO have been couple hours, 1 game... Most FPS games' time are around 20 minutes, 30 so MR12 makes sense afterall
Don't understand why cs community is so resistant to changes, I'm always welcome to new changes as long they balance the economy of CT side with reducing the price tag for weapons and makes each rounds matter more we are gonna get more intense games & more retake attempts from teams instead of saving simulator on the other side of the map Games are also going to end faster so teams can prepare for 2nd map instead of dragging a lost game to 16 rounds
I don’t know mr15 was so perfect for me but I can see mr12 pretty sure it’ll be fine tho hope it work if it doesn’t then I’m pretty sure they’ll change it back
Not much more then 13-0. And valve is going to want comp and pro play to look the same. First to 16 takes forever in terms of a view experience as well
I love the short games. I play short most nights but where I can will play a long match. Hopefully the short matches will still have their place in the game and valve don't use this as an excuse to merge the two.
Faceit usually has a good 2-4k matches live at a given time, thats a massive amount. MR12 is a no brainer, they just need a new system to pull people away from 3rd party bollocks
Is it only my that loves this change? For me long matches are too long now and its hard to keep up with competetive scene, and for playing short matches are too long, even when we didnt know about this change i was hoping to see something like this. Huge W for me
80% of the people saying this is a good change are players are shit and can’t perform in long matches ahaha. there is a reason why you do not see anybody higher than lem queing short matches.
If I play for fun short match I only get mixed lobbys.... I only play Faceit and love 16 rounds... I never saw a good guy playing short match. Always trash players
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I can finally be happy as a G2 fan knowing that they’ll not choke at 14/15
Okay, now they can choke at 11-12
im open to it, im old, i dont always have time to play long matches most nights, so I play short, but those are too short. It should also fix saving a bit in pro play, rounds matter a lot more.
oh ohne said this, Penguins did not mention this in his vdeo
In mm? Why not. But I am not sure I want to see it in pro. But if it gets huge backlash, it will get reverted so I am jot worried.
@@runek100 why not in pro? Like it will barely effect anything other than how long matches are, it will also improve the save mega which is currently dogshit.
@@Spetsnazty because on the highest level, they could crawl back and we saw it many times over. And they also winning pistols round a lot. But I have to see it in place to make definite opinion on it.
Agreed! Games often lose excitement and should they be close, we will get OT anyways (assuming that valve will adopt it in comp).
"almost all of us already have cs2 beta access" what u talking about ohne lmao
Budget gaming pc
almost all of us DON'T have early access 😅🤣
JET ENGINE 🛩@@N00btr00per
I'm MGE and I play short because I don't like using AWP and the longer the game, the more impact AWPs have, but I feel short is too short whereas long is too long. MR12 to me seems perfect as a solution to many problems.
Im usually play MR 8 and don't mind to play 12 rounds. But 15 is too long.
Almost all of us have Cs2 beta ... this guy must be stoned
Yea you mean 20%…
@@saucywings leetify says 7.3% as of 21/8
1%
MR12 is a good change. People who complain about bad MM should like this change. When you Q into a match your not getting the best experience. The player base is split between short and long matches. With everyone playing MR12 the MM should be more competitive in your rank.
^This is it
Yupp. And split between faceit. The community needs to come all to one playlist. The barrier to faceit or just downloading it in general is a turn off to lots of people, and csgo mm is broke. They just need to make elo based ranks and bring it all together
@@speezy6442face it is not the problem, especially for those who are already global. competitive third party applications aren’t the problem.
"Most players play shot games anyway" - That's not true. The statistic about 55% short matches was about the *number of games played*. But with shorter games, it's obviously possible to play more games in a shorter amount of time. So if you account for that, long games are actually way more popular!
Ohne: "Almost all of us has cs2 beta access"
Me: "Vaaaas?" 0:12
The first competitive FPS have been on a MR12 basis imo, at the beginning of CS, COD4, now Valorant, for people having played Battalion 1944, same thing, I feel like it is a great compromise between viewers and gamers' experience, some Grand Finals can be very long sometimes, even more when there are OTs, longest map of CSGO have been couple hours, 1 game... Most FPS games' time are around 20 minutes, 30 so MR12 makes sense afterall
0:12 almost all of us? its like 4% that have beta access
“Almost all of us already have cs2 beta access” I dunno about that one chief
Basically all of us
There’s always that broke boy who doesn’t have prime
I have a 5 year token and bought it before prime was a thing and still didnt get it lol@@dinosharttt
Don't understand why cs community is so resistant to changes, I'm always welcome to new changes as long they balance the economy of CT side with reducing the price tag for weapons and makes each rounds matter more we are gonna get more intense games & more retake attempts from teams instead of saving simulator on the other side of the map
Games are also going to end faster so teams can prepare for 2nd map instead of dragging a lost game to 16 rounds
Bc cs is for most perfect. They spend half their life in this game.... It's hard to accept changes
I don’t know mr15 was so perfect for me but I can see mr12 pretty sure it’ll be fine tho hope it work if it doesn’t then I’m pretty sure they’ll change it back
there is no reason to remove the option to choose. if the community is so split than why would you screw the entirety of the other side.
Because there is a significant difference in the competitiveness of short and long matches.
I don't mind mr12 or anything like that But make it an option rather than the norm
Wait this guy said we almost all have cs2 access? Lol nah
I'm so bad at cs and my contestation falls of in long matches so I play short and Im always good in first few rounds then I suck
Imagine change a game for bad players. Go cry
Cs2 economy is a bit shite with mr15, hopefully this fixes it
As long as they mess with the economy so there's less ecos it'll be good.
I think pro games/faceit should stay long length. Definitely allows more combacks/ shows skill gaps more if you go 0-16
Not much more then 13-0. And valve is going to want comp and pro play to look the same. First to 16 takes forever in terms of a view experience as well
@@speezy6442 no it doest take forever, you tiktok swine
that sounds incredibly boring to watch
I would like to see that stat of how many games would have been upsets/comebacks if it was M12 instead of M16 over the past couple years.
Honestly really love the new round system think it’s perfect length
8 rounds is shorter than 13 last time i checked
I cant take short games seriously
The less rounds the more rng. Should be and option
Mr 12 is going to switch the safe meta because rounds are much mire important. And thats what u wanna see as a viewer or not?
I love the short games. I play short most nights but where I can will play a long match. Hopefully the short matches will still have their place in the game and valve don't use this as an excuse to merge the two.
Faceit usually has a good 2-4k matches live at a given time, thats a massive amount. MR12 is a no brainer, they just need a new system to pull people away from 3rd party bollocks
Why can't we just pick what rounds u want
MR12 is perfect.
we are copying valor----- we are going back to our roots LMAOOOO
When I first heard about it changing, I wasn't happy, but then when I thought about it, I realised, it will probably be better.
or why not have mr12 and mr15 with ot?
MR12 Master race
i love valorant i hope we get an item shop in cs2 release
Bro said almost everyone now has beta acces. Welche Drogen hat er genommen?
Hast du keinen?
I Hope We Receive 10 Bullets In Awp 😢
Shit idea.. rl cs is first to 16 and thats that.. u can play 4 fun shorter matches..
"almost evry1 has beta access"😭
how do u even get it
be honest we all have it all you need is a rank
@@dinosharttt yeah now that valve has given evry1 with a rank the beta, but at the time of this comment they had not done that yet
Very interesting!
wtf I have 600 hours and had prime since 2018 no beta
my account is 19 years old,have thousands hours in game,spent thousands of euro on cases and still dont have an early acces 😅🤦♂️
@@ChronicArtTattoo oh damn I will stop complaining lol get chronic his beta!
I just had my 18 year steam-iversary last week, no beta :/ @@imtrashbmx8834 @ChronicArtTattoo
My smurf has beta my main not..... My smurf has 500 hours gn3
I’m silver 1 and I have it
why is he always shouting tho?
2023 attention span needs that
mr12 is perfect
Let the skin guy explain u the game
It doesn't matter if its good or bad, what matters is we as a community is gonna enjoy cs2 a lot, thats what matters
L asf. Losing heritage because of ADD fuds
Nahhh i like 16
Ayoo 😳
Is it only my that loves this change? For me long matches are too long now and its hard to keep up with competetive scene, and for playing short matches are too long, even when we didnt know about this change i was hoping to see something like this. Huge W for me
u got the attention span of a squirrel or what?
80% of the people saying this is a good change are players are shit and can’t perform in long matches ahaha. there is a reason why you do not see anybody higher than lem queing short matches.
Genuinely curious, do you receive more "ELO" for doing long matches?
IE: Short game win = 20ELO / Long Game win = 40ELO?
If I play for fun short match I only get mixed lobbys.... I only play Faceit and love 16 rounds... I never saw a good guy playing short match. Always trash players
@@dlgilles ive always seen people say so, and in my experience, yes.
True. Generally from what I've seen most people that praise everything about cs2 are absolute bots.
mr12. W
allmost all of us has the beta bullshit man