LmL is giving GRRM the credit he deserves for the sheer ambition of his storytelling. There’s so much more to ASOIAF than the red wedding... if only the show runners of GoT had a shred of interest in literature, myth, and the deep tradition of symbolic storytelling within which GRRM has rooted his garden! Thank you LmL, I’ll be watching this one a second time.
And it breaks my heart we will never get a Dream of Spring. Us fans will never get the end of this incredible series. My fav book series and never will know George end. Yes I believe we will gets Winds of Winter, most likely around the time of House of Dragon. But its beyond clear were not getting Dream of Spring. I'm hoping I'm wrong. I want to be wrong and proven wrong so much. I just really dont think that's going to happen
@@forevermarked5826 Universe, or whatever higher power/order, doesn't owe shit to anyone, particularly "proving someone wrong". By whining and being pessimistic one just attracts that negativity into reality, then gets that, tenfold, and nothing more.
It’s so sad that most of this symbolism is completely unnoticed by even the educated. But I find it hilarious, how George works with apparent indifference and detachment. He hides gold nuggets in a plain piece of text and in doing so his work has been seen by more people than almost anyone. It’s subtle, understated, humble, and therein lies it’s true greatness.
totally agree, and I will add that using archetypal symbolism like this works *even if* the reader doesn't consciously pick up on it, because the archetypes are familiar to us, having appeared in stories throughout our whole lives. Dany already seems god-like; then you do this research and you realize *why*
Daenerys is the character who made me realize George brilliant writing and read the rest of his work,she is truly George’s greatest character,when her story is complete she will be his icon and may even inspire many young writers as her show character did even though they tried to ruin her,While George is playing with the complex aspect between mother of dragons and mhysa her ending arc is clearly “Mother to All” I thought that at second time reading hotu chapter and as i get deeper in her storyline and George’s stories and speeches of his way of writing I know believe in it. Great video lml I know i will definitely rewatch it👏👏
If Dany's story isnt finished in Winds of Winter then we will never know her ending. I do have faith that we will get Winds of winter , most likely around the time the HBO series "House of the Dragon" premieres. But the thing is, we will never get "A Dream of Spring" . We will never learn of the end of Song of Ice and Fire. And it makes me so upset. I wish I was wrong but its absolutely clear we will not get Dream of Spring.I'm still accepting it. I feel real bad for the many who believe George will finish this and write and release Dream of Spring.
In the scene you describe Dany recapitulating Aphrodite atop the Mereenese pyramid, you could also note that she is waiting for Daario, who has a ton of Ares/Mars aspects, such as his impetuous bloodlust.
Preston Jacobs has theorized that it wasn’t a literal storm (since no one else ever mentions it) but rather Stannis Baratheon besieging Dragonstone and smashing Aerys’ fleet, which also has a nice symmetry, Storm Lord vs Dragon-wise
My favourite fictional character of all time, actually let me rephrase that, Dany is actually real, she's a Goddess being worshipped somewhere in this multiverse.
One interesting thing I learned was that: Everyone’s souls are made of the same kind of “energy”. In Hinduism, gods have souls too, they just create a physical body to act as a vessel. The souls of all living creatures are made of the same thing that the souls of gods are made from. Meaning, every soul is just a droplet that rises from a water body when something is dropped into it. They are all parts of a primordial chaos sea, different versions and aspects of the same thing.
@@DavidLightbringer In the other video you are going to stream tonight, Daenerys' look reminded me of Draupadi from Mahabharat. I feel like the story of Jon and Dany is the reverse of Karna and Draupadi's story.
@@davosseaworth1 I think that GRRM is a fan of Mahabharat. Jon and Dany were like the reverse of Karna and Draupadi. I could also see Arjun in Arya and Abhimanyu in Robb.
@@praveenloganathan7495 dude have you read mahabharat?? karna was an eve teaser and draupadi loathed for the role he played in dice hall dany being draupadi i understand both are strong queens but i dont think there is anything that suggest jon snow to be an eve teaser
Aphrodite is often remembered as a love goddess, but she wasn't always that way. In Sparta she was worshipped as a war goddess. Overly Sarcastic Productions has a great video on the evolution of Aphrodite in mythology.
YES IT IS!! Especially when you think about moon meteors; Dany is bloody dragon moon and ice is a bloody dragon sword. The moon “shatters” and then you get moon meteor dragons, which are like swords.
Try reading Late great Ursula K Le Guin's work especially "The Telling". That's hands down one of the best portrayals of ancient philosophy. The main character is called Sutty(derived from Sati)
I searched for Daenerys Targaryen merch and this was first.. clicked because of the title coz am an Indian and Hindu and I must say... Love this video essay! Also I have subscribed and can't wait to binge your videos.. just hoping I don't get spoiled coz I haven't read the books.. just seen the show..
Hey there Mei! Well yes the rest of my videos would indeed spoil the books for you, in a sense, but if you've watched the show then there's only so much that can be spoiled.. but a lot of it might not make sense either. You should read the books! Or do the audiobooks if you don't have time to physically read :)
Mei you just struck Gold. This channel is very special and will open many amazing doors. You'll learn alot and get a whole nother level of appreciation. Yes theres spoilers and alot you wont fully understand because the books have SO much more juice and story then the show. And the show ended with pure disrespect to the lore,universe and characters. You deff should pick up the books. If your a fan of the show you will love the books. And this channels videos are a goldmine to a fan. So much juice. And deep dives into incredible stuff
Hey, LmL, from an anthropologist perspective, this is the very fabric of my comparative mythology fantasies that I just gobbled up in college. Youre awesome and doing our Mother🐎🐉 great justice😭
aww thanks so much, that means a lot... all I can see is that Martin seems to have spent a lot of time thinking about these aspects of the story... ASOIAF basically forces you to study and think in terms of comparative mythology!
The music, the script, and the connections are amazing. I am familiar with Kali and have a giant tapestry with her imagine but would not ever have been creative enough to kind of reverse engineering the story and find these now smack you in the face clues. Wow just amazing.
George is so good at changing the context and sucking you into his story that you can not even notice the parallels to real world mythology. But once you pick up on it you can see it all much more easily. :)
While reading Asioaf i couldn't help noticing many similarities to various religion and especially to The Dharmic Religions....Thanks for posting this great video.
Yeah you know I’ve really just gotta say that I’ve learned so much by trying to follow George’s threads. 5 years ago I didn’t know nearly as much about myth and world culture. I can’t say enough how transformative the process has been
@@DavidLightbringer thanks for sharing the myths you’ve come across during all this time. Can honestly say I would never have heard about most of them without the community that has come from asoiaf.
only 12 mins in but can i just say i really like your writing/editing style for this one? this is a weird complement but i had a bad trip a couple days ago and since then its been very difficult for youtube videos to keep me interested and engaged like i used to be, but i really like the way you keep like refocusing idk
Always interesting to see similar aspects in mythology of different cultures. As Kali sprang from Durga's forehead, so did Athena, goddess of war and intellect, from the head of Zeus.
Top work. Best asoiaf video out there so far. George is a genius. Also Pyramid means fire within/the middle. Dany in Mereen is her coming to her God power and her dragons are kept deep down there. Ready to be released like a volcano. Volcanoes are also evident in the dragonstone v storm god myth setup. If dragons are fire made flesh, then the Magma forms the mound and thus the stone dragon. Great preparation put into this and we appreciate all the images used to tell the story between world mythology and asoiaf so well. Also never gonna look at Mouth of Kala or All the Tears by Gojira the same again.
Just wanna point out that Aphrodite was actually a sort of war goddess: when she came to Greece she was a remnant of Ishtar, who was a goddess of love and war. Her cult first came to land close to Sparta, who didn't mind to have a goddess of war or a goddess who is associated with both war and love. When she got more popular with the rest of Greece tho, the war Aphrodite and love Aphrodite became two different entities. There's an interesting video made by 'overly sarcastic productions'. It's just called Aphrodite or the origins of Aphrodite I think. Anyways, great video man!
If George R.R. Martin did indeed draw from Hindu mythology to create Daenerys Targaryen, then his library must be huge. Something of wonder and terror to behold.
Well if you study comparative mythology you really can’t avoid Hindu myth, since it’s part of the Proto in the European family of myth. And it’s just so fabulous. Kali in particular is very well known, her and Shiva. Icons, really. Heh heh
This was amazing 😍👌 I am from India and there was a phase in my life when I was taken with Indian Mythology and specifically the Indian Epic Story of Mahabharata. I just love the 1989 tv show version by B R Chopra. The Actor playing Krishna is amazing in there. It is a wonderful coincidence that I was dreaming of Shiva and Translucent Darkness some days ago. I am a Schizoid so my Dreams are a way for me to synthesise my Inner Thoughts. And, this video did resonate with me. I love Dany too and her sensuality. Daario is lucky but he makes Dany feel so awesome in the Books especially when they had each other in every way possible before she goes on to marry Hizdahr. I connect more with Bran as a PoV, but Dany has an elusive ethereal touch to her. She is more Magical a Being than even Bran. Bran receives Magic and is a conduit. But Dany is Magic herself. Keep this Ride going, Lucifer !! The Love Bringer... Hope you got that reference... Venus the Lightbringer! :)
Wow, what a beautiful comment!! I've always felt that Dany is an especially magical character from the very beginning - there's something special about her that sadly most people don't seem to appreciate. She is more than just fire, she is also sky, water, and the vital life force itself
That's cool and all, but I wonder if y'all would feel the same way about her if she wasn't young, fragile, thin, blonde, purple eyed (even cooler than blue), white girl (all of which is still, let's be honest, the most prevalent and widely accepted standard of beauty today). I'd bet my ass you wouldn't lmao. I feel like her immense popularity definitely comes more from her visual description than from her character. Would she be tall, athletic green-eyed brunette for example, that would be a totally different story and perception of her, and there wouldn't be such high praises sang to her so often. I'd even assume that her actions would be judged more severely 😁It's honestly hilarious how people's brains work
@@Li_Tobler you won't believe but i like all people. It used to be how you put it many years ago. Since 2019, something inside shifted in me such that i started noticing beauty in people beyond their appearances. I am very happy for that change 🌅😊🏡🥰
This video is THE single MOST related mythological study of Daenerys on the Internet. Truly amazing presentation delivered in unparalleled simplicity and straightforwardness thanks to the one, the only Cleo. I mean Lucifer Means Lightbringer!!
This was fantastic. I'm very interested in what Dany's fate will be in books 6 and 7. This was a great laying bare of her role in the series' symbolism and lore, and I think it's very interesting pairing that with whatever social/societal commentary George is making through the politics in the story. Incredibly well done, as usual!
59:20 Dosh in Hindi is derived from Dosha in Sanskrit. Dosha/Dosham are also used in other Indian languages. The word Dosh/Dosha/Dosham is often used to mean a "fault in the stars" so to say, in Indian astrology, premomitory of misfortune in the future.
@@DavidLightbringer I thought of the dosh khaleen symbolism meaning "faulty incarnations of Kali". They each were as Dany was, a Khaleesi, but they were fell short and didn't fight or challenge their fate of becoming a 'dosh khaleen', a faulty Kali, whereas Dany is the "true Kali", embodying her aspects in ways the others didn't and who defied her fate of being just another "dosh". I remember the head of the dosh khaleen in the show telling Dany that she too was supposed to be the mother of the stallion who mounts the world, but somehow failed to birth them, but Dany didn't fail. Rhaego was thought to be the stallion, but in GRRM fashion, the prophecy was fulfilled differently than interpreted. Dany, with the life of Rhaego, Drogo, and MMD, was reborn with her dragons. It could be that she is the stallion, or her dragons through Rhaego's life essence.
She’s also Kore/Persephone being taken against her will and using the power and drive from inside her to become Queen of the chaos. Amazing video!!! So glad I came across your channel
2 minutes in and I just have to say: Thank Ye Ser, I am so excited to see a feature-length LML deep dive again! In my opinion your best work shines through when you unabashedly take the time needed to really get in-depth in these topics. That being said, you've also gotten really good at TL;DRing these Mythic Level ideas and symbols into easily digestible 30 minute vids. It's like watching a college lecture done-up as a weekly TV drama but you also get a feature film that busts open new doors in the franchise!
Wow!! I never realised there was so much vedic mythology strewn across asoiaf! Kali = Khaleesa, Mirri Maaz Dur and Durga as well as Shayala's dance and dance of Shaila were great observations! I never compared Dany to Parvati before since I thought she resembled Draupadi from the Mahabharata. But this has begun to convince me! Loved it. I can't wait for more!!! I also think the 5 true born stark siblings + Jon reminds me of the five pandavas and Karna.
@@shifatmohiuddin5748the pandavas are in fact Kunti's children, the fathers are different because she prayed to different gods with the particular shloka. So they share a common mother.
Ahhh... Daenerys... such a strong character! And her development is inspiring. Thinking she's evil is like saying nature is evil. Ruthless yes, not evil.
Its totally possible for her to become mad/evil, but there has to be a story that makes it interesting. Like if Jaime's hand wasn't cut because of his actions but he just slipped and fell and broke his arm... That wouldn't have been good drama
@@mortacheto me it kinda spoils her because her dad was mad already, Mad Targaryens even if its a common trait, seems repetitive and brings nothing interesting to the table, at least for my taste. I prefer her to be some sort of ruthless sorceress
Ah a video for my people. Good. Gooooood. Side note I’m reading dance rn and the Danny stuff is getting really good. This video for my people is actually really enlightening and really makes me think more critically, especially because I’m reading said book atm. Love the symbolism, really great stuff.
“As the stars wheeled around her and whispered secrets in her ear” directly after we hear Quaithe whispering abt where to go, thats Sierra Seastar no one can convince me otherwise
9:50 I would love a video just generally breaking down the names of characters, especially more obscure ones. Vyrwell was one I think you did which was very cool
In Hindu myth Shiva is a god who is a nomad like figure who doesn't have any wish for ruling because his way of life is different(just like how khal doesnt understand the westerosi obsession with the iron throne) and his wife Sati, is a princess of a king Daksha (just like Dany who is a essentially a princess from a different land). And also Sati burns herself after her husband was humiliated by her father (he doesn't invite Shiva to an important ritual). Shiva's followers kill Sati's father king Dhaksha. Just like how when Khal is blood sacrificed by Mirri Maz Durr and Dany climbs on to the pyre sacrificing herself and later Dothrakis who never cross the sea are willing to kill the Westerosi ruler.
Brother, I'm less than a minute and a half in to this and I can already tell the immense amount of work you put in. This is absolutely amazing. Well Well done !!
Very nice Video as always! Nobody puts this kind of work in their videos without making tons of money out of it. And nobody talks about mythology and asoiaf like LML. Gotta love him for it! Greetings from Germany!
Been looking forward to this, I wish I had more friends that follow asoiaf as closely as I do, thanks for your hard work David, you're the true Azor Ahai
Dude.. pat yourself on the back. That was incredible. This is such a fricken cool line of symbols and myths 🤘🏼 I love GrrM.. can’t wait to see how the chaos unfolds in TWOW
I watch this in full conncentration for 69 minutes, and then you go "ribbit". You probably said very important things in the rest of the video, but I couldn't stop laughing. Excellent video!
I'll never forget that scene.... "Kali mah" over and over! As a 7 year old , it was terrifying and awesome all at the same time. Kinda like a car crash , you cant help but look even though you know you will regret it. Lol!!
Cool video. One of the points made by GRRM in his writing (Armageddon rag, ASOIAF, a song for lya, and seven times never kill man, etc) is that collective consciousness and shared memory are powerful. And acting on the adage that "those who don't write have good memories," referring to human cultures and their poetic/sung retelling of history and myth. GRRM demonstrates this power in his own settings through song and myth, and sometimes trees (or weird little pyramid things). It is through retelling that we keep the history of humanity over countless thousands of years alive, and with its destruction, we are reduced. I think that is part of the reason that GRRM seeks to incorporate these mythologies into his work. Tolkien did the same. Finally something ACTUALLY similar about them. I mean, he gets called the American Tolkien all the time, but they are so different... it's nice to actually have some basis for that comparison lol. I think GRRM would say that the morals are important, but dogmatic rigidity isn't. That heroes and archetypes are important, but saying XYZ (think jesus, azor ahai) is the only hero is just as destructive. Because it seeks to limit transmission of ancient teachings. Again, another aspect of GRRM's writing is what humanity becomes in interregnum. When we lose something that we had before. You can hear the lament of the free folk in 'last of the giants'. And that, I believe, is a true lamentation of George's. That we have become either too modern and cynical (think Jon's "but I can see giants over there, there must be a hundred of them", "you know nothing" tears tears), or too dogmatic and rigid (think melly sanders and her "all pagan gods are demons and servants of the other" when in reality it's all one "chaos realm" as you put it). There are lessons we have fought hard to learn, and died countless millions of deaths to learn, and we forget them, and in forgetting we lose something. I truly believe that ASOIAF is George's attempt to bring us back a little of our own history, to help us learn these lessons again vicariously. As Jon, and Tyrion, and Danny, and Davos, and Ned, and Caitlyn, and Theon, and Bran, and Arianne, and Quinten, and Cersei, and and and and.... Every one of these characters, that he made up in his brain, delivers a moral fable based on an imaginary world. It's not real, yet it's the most real thing that has been written in while, and he does it with expert subtlety. One thing that I find weird is how many people haven't actually read anything else except ASOIAF and supporting material. None of that has ended yet, every part of that material is: More to follow, part 1/2, etc. I think that's the thing people aren't prepared for, the end. What about fevre dream? What about nightflyers? What about starlady? What about bitterblooms? What about The Hero? That last one got GRRM out of the Vietnam war by the way, so you just know the ending is hard hitting. People took season 8 poorly because it didn't end how they expected. But the sad reality is, if his other work (and I mean every other story) is anything to go by, what we saw was D&D making the ending more viewer friendly. GRRM writes crunchy fucked up endings to stories. "and then the people hung their children to strangle at the end of ropes from the walls of their city, and burned their entire harvest, just as a brutal winter set in. The end." "and then they never got off the planet, and everyone became junkies and probably died, the end." "and then Robb lost the love of his life to a cult who's whole purpose is to feed people to a fungus, the end." "and Marsh lost everything after being manipulated and used as a regretful, yet still ultimately disposable, puppet by Joshua. Just so Joshua could enact his plan to free his people from bondage, but it's ok because they visit Marsh's grave sometimes, the end." Don't be surprised when it's "and the prophecy was true, but azor ahai was actually the bad guy, and when he "came back" as the emotionally unstable & traumatized 15 year old with dragons, she murders everyone and also the children of the forest were bad guys too and they also now have control of Westeros, the end." It's savage stuff, and most of the time gives basically no real closure. That's why I laugh whenever I see people bitch about TWOW (which is really them bitching about wanting the series to end, to have all the content), because it won't make a difference, people that thirsty are going to be disappointed when they get a GRRM ending. Which in itself is a part of the lessons I was talking about earlier, and I think his kind of ending is a really hard lesson for people to learn. That nothing is assured, and often things don't work out as you think, there's always a little bad with the good, and good with the bad. Take care dude.
Hey great comments Chelsea, I loved especially "I truly believe that ASOIAF is George's attempt to bring us back a little of our own history, to help us learn these lessons again vicariously." Couldn't agree more, and well said. However I also still disagree about the endings, particularly when it comes to Dany. She's actually not emotionally unstable at all; she's very well grounded and has a better moral compass than most. She's very true to her core values, which revolve around giving other people the protection and safety she was denied as a child. I just don't see her going against that without completely destroying the character. I think there is a reason why George crafted Dany to be so caring and protective, so self-sacrificing. Those ideals need to weather a big storm, and I think they will. I think she'll end up dying, and not ruling, and there will be plenty bitter about it all. She may not be remembered as the hero she really is. Her and Jon will both have to give themselves up to the struggle in awful ways, same as bran... but I don't think the ending will be as much of a bring-down as some of his short stories. I mean, he's kinda packing all those emotions into the main story this time around, isn't he? Robb and Catelyn and so many other people's stories do end like that. Maester Cressen for example. But I think understanding that Dany is literally the divine feminine incarnate makes me think George simply cannot and will not end her story in disgrace and madness.
Mostly agree, just wanted to make a small point. GRRM'S main goal is to write a masterpiece, not just in a modern sense, but a ?literal? one "a culmination of his previous work and learning." It's why ASOIAF is filled with allusions to history, legends, myths, fairy tales, movies, and especially his own previous work; all being the culminations that taught him to create a masterpiece and becoming a master in his field. I think this is important to understand because it tells us that his function of the book will outweigh the form. He is crafting a mystery for his deepest fans and being that he's from era that made works like the movie "Murder by Death" doesn't want to reveal an answer that can't be solved by the clues given beforehand. It's why it is fantasy rather than sci-fi, to fool the Preston Jacobs of the world; It's also why the story has reversed mythologies, beware of unicorns/play with dragons; and it's why the story will be dissatisfying to people, because it's extrapolated from culmination of what has come before not what will be pleasing to the readers (though that can be a occasional side effect, it's not the main goal).
Bravo!!!! How succinct and concise. I really loved the Song and Harmony metaphors. Making the musical creation, of the world, in which our characters dance. Your research and findings are amazingly accurate. The parallels are undeniable. You are The Realms Delight, LML! Well Done! 🐉 🔥
This is one of my absolute favorite of your Dany symbolism uploads. Underrated AF, the amount of work that must have went Into this one must have been a labour (of love of course). Love dippin into the archive on starry wiz Sundays
When you waited until your birthday, to watch this in full Daenerys Targaryen cosplay, on your Dany tribute account. 😂 Another great one, Luci! Absolutely love that you once again did amazing research. Entirely confirmed a lot of my suspicions.
24:38 “She loved the sea. She liked the sharp salty smell of the air, and the vastness of horizons bounded only by a vault of azure sky above. It made her feel small, but free as well. She liked the dolphins that sometimes swam along beside Balerion, slicing through the waves like silvery spears, and the flying fish they glimpsed now and again.” Along with the atmospheric music, this brought tears to my face and sent chills through my body. Amazing work @LML
I love all your work but this has got to be the most amazing of them all. It rekindled my love of myth in ASOIAF and Daenerys. BryndenBFish could never.
32:46 LMAO!! LML-ception 🤣 this video is great dude, definitely donating, been studying Vedic religion for a class I'm taking currently and these cross-cultural parallels just further the absolute genius of Dany and ASOIAF! SO happy that content of this caliber exists!! you are super underated! you Grey and Quinn, just to name a few, make my week often 💞 keep it up ! 🥺🪔
This was so good. I could listen to another 5hrs of this! Thanks LmL.I really hope that one day you'll collate all your ASOIF symbolism essays into one beautiful huge tome, it would be an awesome companion to TWOASoIF. What George is doing with Dany makes her the most complex character and makes me want to keep rereading her chapters.
LmL the editing on this is simply amazing! The moment when you pushed the laptop screen down the first time, I nearly lost it. The transition is seamless. As much as I love the other asoiaf creators such as: the order of the green hand and in deep geek, your long form video/essays are top notch. 👌 I fight with myself because winds of winter has not come out yet and Grrm is getting older and older and I get more pessimistic about it even coming out. But deep down, there's a place that knows Grrm already has the books finished and is waiting for this cancel culture bs to end so he can release them.
it would be so cool from george to first give us the fulfilling of the prophecy in dany, and only later gives us the actual prophecy george that clever old crow
Beautiful as always - thank you! And as I've said before, if GRRM does put all this symbolism and wordplay into his books (which I agree with you it certainly seems that he does) no wonder they take so long to write!
i think that may be part of it, but I don't get the feeling he ever struggles or gets stuck doing the symbolism layer - thats still mainly a conundrum of making all the various plots tie in satisfactorily. But yes it's writing on another level entirely compared to most fiction!
Dude, I just want to sincerely thank you for producing such thought provoking, yet accessible content. I have been a huge fan for a long time and this was definitely one of your best videos ever. Just kick a$$ content. Thanks for some much awesome content.
LmL is giving GRRM the credit he deserves for the sheer ambition of his storytelling. There’s so much more to ASOIAF than the red wedding... if only the show runners of GoT had a shred of interest in literature, myth, and the deep tradition of symbolic storytelling within which GRRM has rooted his garden! Thank you LmL, I’ll be watching this one a second time.
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And it breaks my heart we will never get a Dream of Spring. Us fans will never get the end of this incredible series. My fav book series and never will know George end. Yes I believe we will gets Winds of Winter, most likely around the time of House of Dragon. But its beyond clear were not getting Dream of Spring. I'm hoping I'm wrong. I want to be wrong and proven wrong so much. I just really dont think that's going to happen
@@forevermarked5826 Universe, or whatever higher power/order, doesn't owe shit to anyone, particularly "proving someone wrong". By whining and being pessimistic one just attracts that negativity into reality, then gets that, tenfold, and nothing more.
LML is the hardest working GoT youtuber out there- period. Not even close. He also skinchanges his bird---possibly.
This video involved many nights staying up to 4 and 5 am, it’s no lie
You're onto something here. That's why Goose is cranky. LmL is going to take over the internet as Goose.
Doing skinchanging research!
@@jonhauge-evaldsson783 all I'm saying is the bird doesn't squawk when LML is drinking his vitamin water...
Let's be glad he does the bird and not one of us. Or has he?
Why didnt D&D just hire you to take over as show runner you would have done justice to this show
If only! :-)
Omg! You actually look like a book character named 'Merrick'. Vampire Chronicles. Nevermind me..just nerding out.
YES!!
My whole life has been leading to this moment
Right? We even have fire effects
🤣 periodd 🪔🐉
For real. Makes so much sense.
Totally!
This is one of only 4 other times I've ever seen a westerner grasp and understand Hinduism on TH-cam, Bravo sir.
Oh wow thank you, doing my best ❤️
“have you tried Vedic mythology, Dany?” THAT SENT MEEEE
Yeah I had to laugh rereading that quote about the seven who are 1 being “just confusing.” Lol.
@@DavidLightbringer poor Dany, we need to get her a chair in myth head school lol
It’s so sad that most of this symbolism is completely unnoticed by even the educated. But I find it hilarious, how George works with apparent indifference and detachment. He hides gold nuggets in a plain piece of text and in doing so his work has been seen by more people than almost anyone. It’s subtle, understated, humble, and therein lies it’s true greatness.
totally agree, and I will add that using archetypal symbolism like this works *even if* the reader doesn't consciously pick up on it, because the archetypes are familiar to us, having appeared in stories throughout our whole lives. Dany already seems god-like; then you do this research and you realize *why*
Like Tolkien, GRRM will be analysed by scholars forever
Daenerys is the character who made me realize George brilliant writing and read the rest of his work,she is truly George’s greatest character,when her story is complete she will be his icon and may even inspire many young writers as her show character did even though they tried to ruin her,While George is playing with the complex aspect between mother of dragons and mhysa her ending arc is clearly “Mother to All” I thought that at second time reading hotu chapter and as i get deeper in her storyline and George’s stories and speeches of his way of writing I know believe in it.
Great video lml I know i will definitely rewatch it👏👏
We’re on the same page there, as you know well!! It makes sense he fashioned her from the stuff of mother goddesses
If Dany's story isnt finished in Winds of Winter then we will never know her ending. I do have faith that we will get Winds of winter , most likely around the time the HBO series "House of the Dragon" premieres. But the thing is, we will never get "A Dream of Spring" . We will never learn of the end of Song of Ice and Fire. And it makes me so upset. I wish I was wrong but its absolutely clear we will not get Dream of Spring.I'm still accepting it. I feel real bad for the many who believe George will finish this and write and release Dream of Spring.
In the scene you describe Dany recapitulating Aphrodite atop the Mereenese pyramid, you could also note that she is waiting for Daario, who has a ton of Ares/Mars aspects, such as his impetuous bloodlust.
Ah that’s true, interesting that she herself has both sides of that pairing
like Aphrodite Areia
Nice!
@@DavidLightbringer she's like Ishtar then? Love and war goddess, associated with the planet Venus. Have you discussed this earlier?
@@imokin86 Daenerys Targaryen is a lot like Ishtar and Inanna (the earlier Sumerian equivalent).
Preston Jacobs has theorized that it wasn’t a literal storm (since no one else ever mentions it) but rather Stannis Baratheon besieging Dragonstone and smashing Aerys’ fleet, which also has a nice symmetry, Storm Lord vs Dragon-wise
If storm is rainstorm, rainstorms are baptismal imagery, and baptisms are symbols of change- then "storm lord" may be the one who brings change
My favourite fictional character of all time, actually let me rephrase that, Dany is actually real, she's a Goddess being worshipped somewhere in this multiverse.
One interesting thing I learned was that:
Everyone’s souls are made of the same kind of “energy”. In Hinduism, gods have souls too, they just create a physical body to act as a vessel. The souls of all living creatures are made of the same thing that the souls of gods are made from.
Meaning, every soul is just a droplet that rises from a water body when something is dropped into it. They are all parts of a primordial chaos sea, different versions and aspects of the same thing.
I'm Indian and love my culture's symbolism, how I miss this stuff!!!!!!!
So much lovely art to draw on too, both old and new :)
@@DavidLightbringer In the other video you are going to stream tonight, Daenerys' look reminded me of Draupadi from Mahabharat. I feel like the story of Jon and Dany is the reverse of Karna and Draupadi's story.
Wow, nice to see some Indian friends in book fandom.
@@davosseaworth1 I think that GRRM is a fan of Mahabharat. Jon and Dany were like the reverse of Karna and Draupadi. I could also see Arjun in Arya and Abhimanyu in Robb.
@@praveenloganathan7495 dude have you read mahabharat?? karna was an eve teaser and draupadi loathed for the role he played in dice hall dany being draupadi i understand both are strong queens but i dont think there is anything that suggest jon snow to be an eve teaser
Aphrodite is often remembered as a love goddess, but she wasn't always that way. In Sparta she was worshipped as a war goddess. Overly Sarcastic Productions has a great video on the evolution of Aphrodite in mythology.
YES I was looking for someone to mention OSP!!!!! The video on Kali is also very relevant to this analysis
Dany bathing in the Womb of the World, washing away the sacrificial blood, is like Ned cleaning Ice in the Winterfell Heart tree pond.
YES IT IS!! Especially when you think about moon meteors; Dany is bloody dragon moon and ice is a bloody dragon sword. The moon “shatters” and then you get moon meteor dragons, which are like swords.
every bath is a baptism, every rainstorm is a symbol of change.
Dafuq when an agnostic guy from America knows more about Vedic history than most hindus ! Good work !
Well I wouldn’t say that of course but I tried to do thorough research so as to do the material justice
Try reading Late great Ursula K Le Guin's work especially "The Telling". That's hands down one of the best portrayals of ancient philosophy.
The main character is called
Sutty(derived from Sati)
We know, and we welcome it.
Pour another coffee, kids. Class is in session!
I searched for Daenerys Targaryen merch and this was first.. clicked because of the title coz am an Indian and Hindu and I must say... Love this video essay! Also I have subscribed and can't wait to binge your videos.. just hoping I don't get spoiled coz I haven't read the books.. just seen the show..
Hey there Mei! Well yes the rest of my videos would indeed spoil the books for you, in a sense, but if you've watched the show then there's only so much that can be spoiled.. but a lot of it might not make sense either. You should read the books! Or do the audiobooks if you don't have time to physically read :)
Mei you just struck Gold. This channel is very special and will open many amazing doors. You'll learn alot and get a whole nother level of appreciation. Yes theres spoilers and alot you wont fully understand because the books have SO much more juice and story then the show. And the show ended with pure disrespect to the lore,universe and characters. You deff should pick up the books. If your a fan of the show you will love the books. And this channels videos are a goldmine to a fan. So much juice. And deep dives into incredible stuff
Hey, LmL, from an anthropologist perspective, this is the very fabric of my comparative mythology fantasies that I just gobbled up in college. Youre awesome and doing our Mother🐎🐉 great justice😭
aww thanks so much, that means a lot... all I can see is that Martin seems to have spent a lot of time thinking about these aspects of the story... ASOIAF basically forces you to study and think in terms of comparative mythology!
The music, the script, and the connections are amazing. I am familiar with Kali and have a giant tapestry with her imagine but would not ever have been creative enough to kind of reverse engineering the story and find these now smack you in the face clues. Wow just amazing.
George is so good at changing the context and sucking you into his story that you can not even notice the parallels to real world mythology. But once you pick up on it you can see it all much more easily. :)
While reading Asioaf i couldn't help noticing many similarities to various religion and especially to The Dharmic Religions....Thanks for posting this great video.
Yeah George got to more than just Norse and Greek myth didn’t he?
This is a pleasant surprise. Thanks for bringing different cultures into the channel, definitely excited to start this.
Yeah you know I’ve really just gotta say that I’ve learned so much by trying to follow George’s threads. 5 years ago I didn’t know nearly as much about myth and world culture. I can’t say enough how transformative the process has been
@@DavidLightbringer thanks for sharing the myths you’ve come across during all this time. Can honestly say I would never have heard about most of them without the community that has come from asoiaf.
LML answers injustice with justice.. By showing us the real symbolism Queen we choose
only 12 mins in but can i just say i really like your writing/editing style for this one? this is a weird complement but i had a bad trip a couple days ago and since then its been very difficult for youtube videos to keep me interested and engaged like i used to be, but i really like the way you keep like refocusing idk
That’s a great compliment. I’m the bad trip shepherd when need be. I got you! ❤️❤️❤️
Always interesting to see similar aspects in mythology of different cultures. As Kali sprang from Durga's forehead, so did Athena, goddess of war and intellect, from the head of Zeus.
There are times when Dany reminds me of Athena, also considered a protectress and warrior ( although, Athena a virgin - never a mother figure)
Top work. Best asoiaf video out there so far. George is a genius. Also Pyramid means fire within/the middle. Dany in Mereen is her coming to her God power and her dragons are kept deep down there. Ready to be released like a volcano. Volcanoes are also evident in the dragonstone v storm god myth setup. If dragons are fire made flesh, then the Magma forms the mound and thus the stone dragon.
Great preparation put into this and we appreciate all the images used to tell the story between world mythology and asoiaf so well.
Also never gonna look at Mouth of Kala or All the Tears by Gojira the same again.
Just realized Dany’s horse is a silver seahorse in a green sea and the Velaryon sigil is a silver seahorse on sea green. George got us again
May I present to you, the deep magic:
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Just wanna point out that Aphrodite was actually a sort of war goddess: when she came to Greece she was a remnant of Ishtar, who was a goddess of love and war. Her cult first came to land close to Sparta, who didn't mind to have a goddess of war or a goddess who is associated with both war and love. When she got more popular with the rest of Greece tho, the war Aphrodite and love Aphrodite became two different entities. There's an interesting video made by 'overly sarcastic productions'. It's just called Aphrodite or the origins of Aphrodite I think.
Anyways, great video man!
Book Dany is glad she isn’t TV Show Dany.
TV show Dany needs Jesus... She understand nothing of mercy or forgiveness.
Great timing man! I just hit the road for a 3hr drive and now I have something to listen to to pass the time.
The intro alone made me save this video to savor it! Awesome choice of music, so shimmering and mesmerizing (not to mention the gorgeous art).
If George R.R. Martin did indeed draw from Hindu mythology to create Daenerys Targaryen, then his library must be huge. Something of wonder and terror to behold.
Well if you study comparative mythology you really can’t avoid Hindu myth, since it’s part of the Proto in the European family of myth. And it’s just so fabulous. Kali in particular is very well known, her and Shiva. Icons, really. Heh heh
My cry of ecstasy (not agony!!!) was so loud, that my husband came running to safe me... had to release tension
and now i cannot get out of my mind the idea of someone masturbating to this video :D
I did put some hot Dany art in there
@@DavidLightbringer Can't lie, Dany always makes me wonder if I'm bisexual :-D
This was amazing 😍👌
I am from India and there was a phase in my life when I was taken with Indian Mythology and specifically the Indian Epic Story of Mahabharata. I just love the 1989 tv show version by B R Chopra. The Actor playing Krishna is amazing in there.
It is a wonderful coincidence that I was dreaming of Shiva and Translucent Darkness some days ago. I am a Schizoid so my Dreams are a way for me to synthesise my Inner Thoughts. And, this video did resonate with me. I love Dany too and her sensuality. Daario is lucky but he makes Dany feel so awesome in the Books especially when they had each other in every way possible before she goes on to marry Hizdahr. I connect more with Bran as a PoV, but Dany has an elusive ethereal touch to her. She is more Magical a Being than even Bran. Bran receives Magic and is a conduit. But Dany is Magic herself.
Keep this Ride going, Lucifer !! The Love Bringer... Hope you got that reference... Venus the Lightbringer! :)
thanks so much for your comments Jay!! Very well said about Dany, she herself is magic. What a character
Wow, what a beautiful comment!! I've always felt that Dany is an especially magical character from the very beginning - there's something special about her that sadly most people don't seem to appreciate. She is more than just fire, she is also sky, water, and the vital life force itself
That's cool and all, but I wonder if y'all would feel the same way about her if she wasn't young, fragile, thin, blonde, purple eyed (even cooler than blue), white girl (all of which is still, let's be honest, the most prevalent and widely accepted standard of beauty today). I'd bet my ass you wouldn't lmao. I feel like her immense popularity definitely comes more from her visual description than from her character. Would she be tall, athletic green-eyed brunette for example, that would be a totally different story and perception of her, and there wouldn't be such high praises sang to her so often. I'd even assume that her actions would be judged more severely 😁It's honestly hilarious how people's brains work
@@Li_Tobler you won't believe but i like all people. It used to be how you put it many years ago. Since 2019, something inside shifted in me such that i started noticing beauty in people beyond their appearances. I am very happy for that change 🌅😊🏡🥰
@@jaysheth1541 if that's really so then I'm happy for you! Sounds like a very wholesome trait to have :)
This video is THE single MOST related mythological study of Daenerys on the Internet. Truly amazing presentation delivered in unparalleled simplicity and straightforwardness thanks to the one, the only Cleo. I mean Lucifer Means Lightbringer!!
I’m 2 min into this video and I can tell it’s some of your best editing work yet 🤙🏼
You did such a great job with this one, LML! Hopefully the algorithm gods will look kindly on it.
YESSSSS HYYYYPE!! I just started watching your videos a couple weeks ago and I have been hooked into the beautiful world of symbolism in ASOIAF.
You have many, many hours of peeling back layers of symbolism and you will truly appreciate ASOIAF after listening to LML 🤙🏼
Just what I like to hear!!!
This was fantastic. I'm very interested in what Dany's fate will be in books 6 and 7. This was a great laying bare of her role in the series' symbolism and lore, and I think it's very interesting pairing that with whatever social/societal commentary George is making through the politics in the story. Incredibly well done, as usual!
thank you! i took a lot of pride in this one
59:20 Dosh in Hindi is derived from Dosha in Sanskrit. Dosha/Dosham are also used in other Indian languages. The word Dosh/Dosha/Dosham is often used to mean a "fault in the stars" so to say, in Indian astrology, premomitory of misfortune in the future.
oh that's really cool, deepens the meaning even more... the Dosh Khaleen will be reborn!
@@DavidLightbringer I thought of the dosh khaleen symbolism meaning "faulty incarnations of Kali". They each were as Dany was, a Khaleesi, but they were fell short and didn't fight or challenge their fate of becoming a 'dosh khaleen', a faulty Kali, whereas Dany is the "true Kali", embodying her aspects in ways the others didn't and who defied her fate of being just another "dosh". I remember the head of the dosh khaleen in the show telling Dany that she too was supposed to be the mother of the stallion who mounts the world, but somehow failed to birth them, but Dany didn't fail. Rhaego was thought to be the stallion, but in GRRM fashion, the prophecy was fulfilled differently than interpreted. Dany, with the life of Rhaego, Drogo, and MMD, was reborn with her dragons. It could be that she is the stallion, or her dragons through Rhaego's life essence.
She’s also Kore/Persephone being taken against her will and using the power and drive from inside her to become Queen of the chaos. Amazing video!!! So glad I came across your channel
2 minutes in and I just have to say: Thank Ye Ser, I am so excited to see a feature-length LML deep dive again! In my opinion your best work shines through when you unabashedly take the time needed to really get in-depth in these topics.
That being said, you've also gotten really good at TL;DRing these Mythic Level ideas and symbols into easily digestible 30 minute vids. It's like watching a college lecture done-up as a weekly TV drama but you also get a feature film that busts open new doors in the franchise!
thanks Igorious, that means a lot. I'm always thinking about format and style of communication, pretty much constantly, so thanks for the feedback :)
Luce, how much time did it take you to edit this? This might be your best editing work yet!
Like a month lol
@@DavidLightbringer IDK if that's a lot. sounds like A LOT but i dont edit videos tbf
Wow!! I never realised there was so much vedic mythology strewn across asoiaf! Kali = Khaleesa, Mirri Maaz Dur and Durga as well as Shayala's dance and dance of Shaila were great observations! I never compared Dany to Parvati before since I thought she resembled Draupadi from the Mahabharata. But this has begun to convince me! Loved it. I can't wait for more!!!
I also think the 5 true born stark siblings + Jon reminds me of the five pandavas and Karna.
I'll have to look that up, hadn't heard of it
Good idea, mate. There is just a little difference, all the pandavas are not sons of Kunti while the 5 Starks have shared a common mother.
@@shifatmohiuddin5748the pandavas are in fact Kunti's children, the fathers are different because she prayed to different gods with the particular shloka. So they share a common mother.
Ahhh... Daenerys... such a strong character! And her development is inspiring.
Thinking she's evil is like saying nature is evil. Ruthless yes, not evil.
Exactly she was ruthless but never evil or mad commiting acts of violence doesn't equal being mad
Ruthless in the proper proportions and merciful in the proper proportions. One must be, if one is to survive…
Its totally possible for her to become mad/evil, but there has to be a story that makes it interesting. Like if Jaime's hand wasn't cut because of his actions but he just slipped and fell and broke his arm... That wouldn't have been good drama
@@mortacheto me it kinda spoils her because her dad was mad already, Mad Targaryens even if its a common trait, seems repetitive and brings nothing interesting to the table, at least for my taste. I prefer her to be some sort of ruthless sorceress
I've been waiting for you got get to the Vedas!!
Fire effects on point btws
Ah a video for my people. Good. Gooooood. Side note I’m reading dance rn and the Danny stuff is getting really good. This video for my people is actually really enlightening and really makes me think more critically, especially because I’m reading said book atm. Love the symbolism, really great stuff.
Glad to represent for such an interesting corner of world culture :) I learned a lot making the video!!
“As the stars wheeled around her and whispered secrets in her ear” directly after we hear Quaithe whispering abt where to go, thats Sierra Seastar no one can convince me otherwise
9:50 I would love a video just generally breaking down the names of characters, especially more obscure ones. Vyrwell was one I think you did which was very cool
In Hindu myth Shiva is a god who is a nomad like figure who doesn't have any wish for ruling because his way of life is different(just like how khal doesnt understand the westerosi obsession with the iron throne) and his wife Sati, is a princess of a king Daksha (just like Dany who is a essentially a princess from a different land).
And also Sati burns herself after her husband was humiliated by her father (he doesn't invite Shiva to an important ritual). Shiva's followers kill Sati's father king Dhaksha.
Just like how when Khal is blood sacrificed by Mirri Maz Durr and Dany climbs on to the pyre sacrificing herself and later Dothrakis who never cross the sea are willing to kill the Westerosi ruler.
Holy cow dude. You are the best GoT/ASOIAF creator I have found yet, and I’ve watched many. This video was AWESOME.
This is beautiful, skillfully crafted, so funny and informative. Loved all the connections, and they all make sense
"Vritra sure does have the brimstone stink of Targaryen about him. Does he not". Love this!!!!!!😁
Brother, I'm less than a minute and a half in to this and I can already tell the immense amount of work you put in. This is absolutely amazing. Well Well done !!
Very nice Video as always! Nobody puts this kind of work in their videos without making tons of money out of it. And nobody talks about mythology and asoiaf like LML. Gotta love him for it!
Greetings from Germany!
Yes, she has bearings with Shakti( cosmic feminine) and her many forms. As a worshipper of Kali for many years it's apparent. Good work.
Been looking forward to this, I wish I had more friends that follow asoiaf as closely as I do, thanks for your hard work David, you're the true Azor Ahai
This video is quite literally 🔥
Dude.. pat yourself on the back. That was incredible. This is such a fricken cool line of symbols and myths 🤘🏼
I love GrrM.. can’t wait to see how the chaos unfolds in TWOW
I watch this in full conncentration for 69 minutes, and then you go "ribbit". You probably said very important things in the rest of the video, but I couldn't stop laughing.
Excellent video!
Gotta put those little light moments in there :)
@@DavidLightbringer That is why you are the 'lightbringer'.
I'll never forget that scene.... "Kali mah" over and over! As a 7 year old , it was terrifying and awesome all at the same time. Kinda like a car crash , you cant help but look even though you know you will regret it. Lol!!
I knew some other 80's children would relate to this :)
Came here to say this :)
Cool video.
One of the points made by GRRM in his writing (Armageddon rag, ASOIAF, a song for lya, and seven times never kill man, etc) is that collective consciousness and shared memory are powerful. And acting on the adage that "those who don't write have good memories," referring to human cultures and their poetic/sung retelling of history and myth. GRRM demonstrates this power in his own settings through song and myth, and sometimes trees (or weird little pyramid things). It is through retelling that we keep the history of humanity over countless thousands of years alive, and with its destruction, we are reduced. I think that is part of the reason that GRRM seeks to incorporate these mythologies into his work. Tolkien did the same. Finally something ACTUALLY similar about them. I mean, he gets called the American Tolkien all the time, but they are so different... it's nice to actually have some basis for that comparison lol. I think GRRM would say that the morals are important, but dogmatic rigidity isn't. That heroes and archetypes are important, but saying XYZ (think jesus, azor ahai) is the only hero is just as destructive. Because it seeks to limit transmission of ancient teachings. Again, another aspect of GRRM's writing is what humanity becomes in interregnum. When we lose something that we had before. You can hear the lament of the free folk in 'last of the giants'. And that, I believe, is a true lamentation of George's. That we have become either too modern and cynical (think Jon's "but I can see giants over there, there must be a hundred of them", "you know nothing" tears tears), or too dogmatic and rigid (think melly sanders and her "all pagan gods are demons and servants of the other" when in reality it's all one "chaos realm" as you put it). There are lessons we have fought hard to learn, and died countless millions of deaths to learn, and we forget them, and in forgetting we lose something. I truly believe that ASOIAF is George's attempt to bring us back a little of our own history, to help us learn these lessons again vicariously. As Jon, and Tyrion, and Danny, and Davos, and Ned, and Caitlyn, and Theon, and Bran, and Arianne, and Quinten, and Cersei, and and and and.... Every one of these characters, that he made up in his brain, delivers a moral fable based on an imaginary world. It's not real, yet it's the most real thing that has been written in while, and he does it with expert subtlety.
One thing that I find weird is how many people haven't actually read anything else except ASOIAF and supporting material. None of that has ended yet, every part of that material is: More to follow, part 1/2, etc. I think that's the thing people aren't prepared for, the end. What about fevre dream? What about nightflyers? What about starlady? What about bitterblooms? What about The Hero? That last one got GRRM out of the Vietnam war by the way, so you just know the ending is hard hitting. People took season 8 poorly because it didn't end how they expected. But the sad reality is, if his other work (and I mean every other story) is anything to go by, what we saw was D&D making the ending more viewer friendly. GRRM writes crunchy fucked up endings to stories. "and then the people hung their children to strangle at the end of ropes from the walls of their city, and burned their entire harvest, just as a brutal winter set in. The end." "and then they never got off the planet, and everyone became junkies and probably died, the end." "and then Robb lost the love of his life to a cult who's whole purpose is to feed people to a fungus, the end." "and Marsh lost everything after being manipulated and used as a regretful, yet still ultimately disposable, puppet by Joshua. Just so Joshua could enact his plan to free his people from bondage, but it's ok because they visit Marsh's grave sometimes, the end." Don't be surprised when it's "and the prophecy was true, but azor ahai was actually the bad guy, and when he "came back" as the emotionally unstable & traumatized 15 year old with dragons, she murders everyone and also the children of the forest were bad guys too and they also now have control of Westeros, the end." It's savage stuff, and most of the time gives basically no real closure. That's why I laugh whenever I see people bitch about TWOW (which is really them bitching about wanting the series to end, to have all the content), because it won't make a difference, people that thirsty are going to be disappointed when they get a GRRM ending. Which in itself is a part of the lessons I was talking about earlier, and I think his kind of ending is a really hard lesson for people to learn. That nothing is assured, and often things don't work out as you think, there's always a little bad with the good, and good with the bad.
Take care dude.
Hey great comments Chelsea, I loved especially "I truly believe that ASOIAF is George's attempt to bring us back a little of our own history, to help us learn these lessons again vicariously." Couldn't agree more, and well said. However I also still disagree about the endings, particularly when it comes to Dany. She's actually not emotionally unstable at all; she's very well grounded and has a better moral compass than most. She's very true to her core values, which revolve around giving other people the protection and safety she was denied as a child. I just don't see her going against that without completely destroying the character. I think there is a reason why George crafted Dany to be so caring and protective, so self-sacrificing. Those ideals need to weather a big storm, and I think they will. I think she'll end up dying, and not ruling, and there will be plenty bitter about it all. She may not be remembered as the hero she really is. Her and Jon will both have to give themselves up to the struggle in awful ways, same as bran... but I don't think the ending will be as much of a bring-down as some of his short stories. I mean, he's kinda packing all those emotions into the main story this time around, isn't he? Robb and Catelyn and so many other people's stories do end like that. Maester Cressen for example. But I think understanding that Dany is literally the divine feminine incarnate makes me think George simply cannot and will not end her story in disgrace and madness.
Mostly agree, just wanted to make a small point. GRRM'S main goal is to write a masterpiece, not just in a modern sense, but a ?literal? one "a culmination of his previous work and learning." It's why ASOIAF is filled with allusions to history, legends, myths, fairy tales, movies, and especially his own previous work; all being the culminations that taught him to create a masterpiece and becoming a master in his field. I think this is important to understand because it tells us that his function of the book will outweigh the form. He is crafting a mystery for his deepest fans and being that he's from era that made works like the movie "Murder by Death" doesn't want to reveal an answer that can't be solved by the clues given beforehand. It's why it is fantasy rather than sci-fi, to fool the Preston Jacobs of the world; It's also why the story has reversed mythologies, beware of unicorns/play with dragons; and it's why the story will be dissatisfying to people, because it's extrapolated from culmination of what has come before not what will be pleasing to the readers (though that can be a occasional side effect, it's not the main goal).
The overlapping themes. The mythology. The editing. The fun!
This is one of my favorites of your content.
holy shit an hour 17 i am substantially more excited about watching this
Bravo!!!! How succinct and concise. I really loved the Song and Harmony metaphors. Making the musical creation, of the world, in which our characters dance. Your research and findings are amazingly accurate. The parallels are undeniable. You are The Realms Delight, LML! Well Done! 🐉 🔥
Wonderful video! LmL you are awesome! I am not all that familiar with Indian mythology, but I sure am interested now!
This is one of my absolute favorite of your Dany symbolism uploads. Underrated AF, the amount of work that must have went Into this one must have been a labour (of love of course). Love dippin into the archive on starry wiz Sundays
You are not wrong, I probably learned more doing this video than any other single video
I needed something for a long drive for work and here you are. Always love your work my man, keep it up
also may my silent rewatches please the algorithm
The Dany video that was promised
Love the music in this video. It's giving me age of empires vibes.
This is the quality content the ASOIAF fan wants well done George would be proud
Congrats on the video! I hope it does well for you. Keep up the hard work.
When you waited until your birthday, to watch this in full Daenerys Targaryen cosplay, on your Dany tribute account. 😂
Another great one, Luci! Absolutely love that you once again did amazing research. Entirely confirmed a lot of my suspicions.
yess finally it is here!!! such a fascinating video
Dude! Thanks for the amazing, free content. I cannot wait to dive into this!!
Just imagine the amount of hardwork George has done for this project!!
Been a fan since your essay and blog days buddy. Keep it up and I love the content. May you always have Garths blessing my fine friend.
This long format is my favorite. I love putting these on while I’m doing housework! The best ASOIAF content out there
The wearing shades idea is brilliant, enjoyed your work
24:38 “She loved the sea. She liked the sharp salty smell of the air, and the vastness of horizons bounded only by a vault of azure sky above. It made her feel small, but free as well. She liked the dolphins that sometimes swam along beside Balerion, slicing through the waves like silvery spears, and the flying fish they glimpsed now and again.”
Along with the atmospheric music, this brought tears to my face and sent chills through my body. Amazing work @LML
same. it's an incredibly sweet passage to find on a reread
I love all your work but this has got to be the most amazing of them all. It rekindled my love of myth in ASOIAF and Daenerys. BryndenBFish could never.
You couldn't have said anything nicer ❤️❤️❤️
@@DavidLightbringer btw I sent you an Instagram message of a book cover you might like!
32:46 LMAO!! LML-ception 🤣 this video is great dude, definitely donating, been studying Vedic religion for a class I'm taking currently and these cross-cultural parallels just further the absolute genius of Dany and ASOIAF! SO happy that content of this caliber exists!! you are super underated! you Grey and Quinn, just to name a few, make my week often 💞 keep it up ! 🥺🪔
This was so good. I could listen to another 5hrs of this! Thanks LmL.I really hope that one day you'll collate all your ASOIF symbolism essays into one beautiful huge tome, it would be an awesome companion to TWOASoIF. What George is doing with Dany makes her the most complex character and makes me want to keep rereading her chapters.
I might do that one day!
this is absolutely amazing!! you're amazing!!! I can't wait to read your book
ive been waiting for this one... turn it up!
LmL the editing on this is simply amazing! The moment when you pushed the laptop screen down the first time, I nearly lost it. The transition is seamless.
As much as I love the other asoiaf creators such as: the order of the green hand and in deep geek, your long form video/essays are top notch. 👌
I fight with myself because winds of winter has not come out yet and Grrm is getting older and older and I get more pessimistic about it even coming out. But deep down, there's a place that knows Grrm already has the books finished and is waiting for this cancel culture bs to end so he can release them.
it would be so cool from george to first give us the fulfilling of the prophecy in dany, and only later gives us the actual prophecy
george that clever old crow
The Daemon song in HOTD confirms it. Their word for singing is like vaēdis
oh interesting!!
Beautiful as always - thank you! And as I've said before, if GRRM does put all this symbolism and wordplay into his books (which I agree with you it certainly seems that he does) no wonder they take so long to write!
i think that may be part of it, but I don't get the feeling he ever struggles or gets stuck doing the symbolism layer - thats still mainly a conundrum of making all the various plots tie in satisfactorily. But yes it's writing on another level entirely compared to most fiction!
Wow! I’d been saving this one and it was incredible. Thanks for all of the work that went into this one, David✨✨✨
Yes! I loved doing this one
Dude, I just want to sincerely thank you for producing such thought provoking, yet accessible content. I have been a huge fan for a long time and this was definitely one of your best videos ever. Just kick a$$ content. Thanks for some much awesome content.
aww right on Tim! thanks man!
You've done it yet again! This is just fantastic stuff.
Your channel is just getting better and better man. One of the best asoiaf TH-camrs out here
Thanks for the deep dive. George just keeps on giving, no wonder his world seems so resonating. Long may you keep doing what you do so well.
A brilliant, high quality video, well done!
Execellent! The Great Vedic Video is here! (praise Garth)
1.3K views, no dislikes (as of right now) and such great comments. Amazing channel for positive ASOIAF fandom. Oh great video too
Happy Mother’s Day! (Middle East)
Hard for me to grasp at times but well done LML. Quality asoiaf content as usual.
Heaven's balls are definetly like moon meteors
Indeed!!