Interesting. I bag a 168g pink stock stamp Zenith, got it in Dec 2023. Mine flies nothing like yours. I don't get turn. I can force a flex shot, but it's short lived and fights out into fade mode quickly. Nothing like my -2 | 2 Waves, which I can easily make turn over throws. My Zenith is my most OS distance driver in my bag, and handles headwinds no problem. I use the Wave and Trail for distance flight shaping.
Yeah that’s what I was expecting for mine and what I’d been reading online before I got it. Might be something just with newer runs because this one had just hit the shelf locally 🤔
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf The silver lining is sounds like I'm using my flight version for what it offers and likewise you the same. If it fits in each of our bags, even though differently, it's a win!
I've 100% stayed away from the Zenith due to every one I've thrown, and everyone around me restating that its more over stable than neutral, and it gets no turn. I stick to my Wave, and Trail as well.
if you havent thrown a plsama mayhem- wait are you waiting for. thats my go to distance driver. i find it to be the closes thing to a destroyer. Bomber. keep up the content homie digging the channel
Interesting to see all the different flights from the comments. I have 4 discs, 2 from release and 2 difference ones bought a little bit afterwards. All of them, fly like yours and not the overstable run. Excited to see the Eclipse Wave video!
That zenith you got there is not normal. My zenith is more beefy than a brand new max weight destroyer. I throw about 400ft but my zenith never turns. Thrown flat it just holds it for a while and fades out hard, no turn.
The first runs of Zenith came out flatter and much more overstable. The newer Zeniths have a little bit more of a raised flight plate, mini dome and I’ve heard they fly much truer to their numbers.
I have two zenith's. One proton and one plasma. They fly like the one you're throwing. I'm at 5000 ft of elevation. I think the runs from the last year to two years and i think they have it dialed in.
Looking at the side profile of a newest release of zenith and wow there's a lot more dome on it than earlier runs, almost looks more like a Trail now. After the Trail and Time Lapse it looks like MVP has been adding more dome to their other molds as well...I've been finding domier runs of Craves and Rhythms and some of their other distance drivers.
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf There's some proton and cosmic neutrons that just dropped on OTBdiscs if you want to check them out. Nothing super crazy but compared to the older runs of crave which were board flat these are much different.
My Zeniths flies nothing like yours. I only really get turn throwing into a headwind. I actually use it as my overstable driver. Trail has a lot more turn.
I'd bet your Zenith has more dome. I had a white SE one that was flat as f, it flew dead straight with reliable fade.. but lost it. Bought 2 online, one came looking flat as f like my white one and one with dome. The domey one def has more turn.
I feel like this disc is really overstable? Maybe I’m just week but i really like the trail for hyzer flips or my fission time lapse I’ll use a proton wave for super understable turn overs. Idk how he said this has more turn than the trail.
I cant believe you got the Zenith to fly like that. I would not describe it as understable unless I am comparing it to my Photon which is much more OS then the numbers say. Are you throwing max weight? Maybe some slight anny releases?
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf Not sure my noodle arm would support the power requirement of the nuclear option. But I would love to say. “Throw Nukes baby” everytime I teed off.
Interesting. I bag a 168g pink stock stamp Zenith, got it in Dec 2023. Mine flies nothing like yours. I don't get turn. I can force a flex shot, but it's short lived and fights out into fade mode quickly. Nothing like my -2 | 2 Waves, which I can easily make turn over throws. My Zenith is my most OS distance driver in my bag, and handles headwinds no problem. I use the Wave and Trail for distance flight shaping.
Pretty much the same for me.
Yeah that’s what I was expecting for mine and what I’d been reading online before I got it. Might be something just with newer runs because this one had just hit the shelf locally 🤔
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf The silver lining is sounds like I'm using my flight version for what it offers and likewise you the same. If it fits in each of our bags, even though differently, it's a win!
Yeah same for me also it is by far the most over stable disc in my bag
I've 100% stayed away from the Zenith due to every one I've thrown, and everyone around me restating that its more over stable than neutral, and it gets no turn. I stick to my Wave, and Trail as well.
if you havent thrown a plsama mayhem- wait are you waiting for. thats my go to distance driver. i find it to be the closes thing to a destroyer. Bomber. keep up the content homie digging the channel
I haven’t tried the mayhem yet. I’ll grab one soon! Thanks for the rec 🤝
Interesting to see all the different flights from the comments. I have 4 discs, 2 from release and 2 difference ones bought a little bit afterwards. All of them, fly like yours and not the overstable run.
Excited to see the Eclipse Wave video!
That's interesting- glad you weighed in on that! The new Waves look nice 👌
That zenith you got there is not normal. My zenith is more beefy than a brand new max weight destroyer. I throw about 400ft but my zenith never turns. Thrown flat it just holds it for a while and fades out hard, no turn.
It’s wild how much variation there is
The first runs of Zenith came out flatter and much more overstable. The newer Zeniths have a little bit more of a raised flight plate, mini dome and I’ve heard they fly much truer to their numbers.
@@hiddenleaf414 I guess I have the first run then. Maybe I should try the later release 👍
@@viux44 Ditto man. My first run is beef. Only overshadowed by my cosmic neutron photon at 11 speed.
I love you channel!
Thanks so much! 👊
I have two zenith's. One proton and one plasma. They fly like the one you're throwing. I'm at 5000 ft of elevation. I think the runs from the last year to two years and i think they have it dialed in.
That's interesting! I'm glad they're on the understable side- I'm really enjoying this one
Looking at the side profile of a newest release of zenith and wow there's a lot more dome on it than earlier runs, almost looks more like a Trail now. After the Trail and Time Lapse it looks like MVP has been adding more dome to their other molds as well...I've been finding domier runs of Craves and Rhythms and some of their other distance drivers.
I figured MVP would be moving in that direction after the positive feedback from the domey Timelapses. Looking forward to try a domier Crave.
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf There's some proton and cosmic neutrons that just dropped on OTBdiscs if you want to check them out. Nothing super crazy but compared to the older runs of crave which were board flat these are much different.
That turn is absolutely WICKED
Very wicked!
My Zeniths flies nothing like yours. I only really get turn throwing into a headwind. I actually use it as my overstable driver. Trail has a lot more turn.
Definitely feels like I got an odd one considering that’s what I’d read about it online. This is from the newest runs which may be why 🤷
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf I am definitely going to grab a new one, and check it out :)
I'd bet your Zenith has more dome.
I had a white SE one that was flat as f, it flew dead straight with reliable fade.. but lost it.
Bought 2 online, one came looking flat as f like my white one and one with dome. The domey one def has more turn.
Yeah I think that is the case- it had more dome than I expected
I feel like this disc is really overstable? Maybe I’m just week but i really like the trail for hyzer flips or my fission time lapse I’ll use a proton wave for super understable turn overs. Idk how he said this has more turn than the trail.
Seems like a lot of variation between runs. Just picked up a Wave and it’s only a bit more understable than this Zenith 🤷♂️
I cant believe you got the Zenith to fly like that. I would not describe it as understable unless I am comparing it to my Photon which is much more OS then the numbers say. Are you throwing max weight? Maybe some slight anny releases?
It’s an odd one for sure. Those last couple throws were hyzer, and I checked it out in slow mo to make sure. ~170g. So not sure how to explain it 🫡
What’s in the lead on the driver quest?
Still rocking the Nuke for now, but I think the Zenith has a spot in my bag for now. Might try to get a more overstable one to compliment it 👌
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolf Not sure my noodle arm would support the power requirement of the nuclear option.
But I would love to say. “Throw Nukes baby” everytime I teed off.
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Big Zenith guy. Longer seasoned wrath for me.
That’s a good way to put it 👍
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The Zenith I have is a meat hook and more stable than a Terra. Completely unusable for me :(
That’s a bummer 😓 hopefully they dial these future runs in
I don’t bag one because I can never find them in person.
Keeping MVP on the shelves is tough 😓
@@FlyingFajitaDiscGolftrue but hopefully here soon I might just have to order online but I prefer getting it in person.
I wanna see a DOOMSDAY only bag in a video please. Only PDGA legal ones bc they do make I think 1 or 2 illegal discs
I’m committing to you that I will have Doomsday on the channel! Putting it on my buy list 🫡