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- Disney is going fully into products that the consumer doesn't want. Today we're facing the sad truth, that Disney really is dying.
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Unironically, I want to say that was a darn good ad read from Business Greg
We don’t do anything Disney. They are not a family safe company. And personally I’m tired of the preachy girl boss garbage infecting everything.
Happy to watch the kill themselves. Someone else will step up, long live Mario
Ho ho I am very pro gay. This does not mean I want to see gay on my screen.
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I usually don't like people picking the low hanging fruit, but watching Disney dig their own grave has been legitimately mind boggling and entertaining.
More entertaining than any remake they are pushing out
@@josephbassey1501 trueeee
The constant stream of bad business decisions they’re making is inexplicable
It's mind boggling, right? I get a company trying some new things, but Disney gave their loyal base the finger and ran the other direction. So strange
No it's not the board is setting the company up for a hostile takeover. Think about it, Disney does something dumb, stocks fall. The stock price claws its way almost back to the former level Disney does something else dumb. Rinse repeat. No one is this stupid, this has to be on purpose.
It is explicable. Middle-management took over decision-making. And middle-managers are, unlike C-level staff, far more interested in making themselves unfireable than in turning profits for the company.
The wokeness is explainable,they are trying to get ESG money.
Not when your company is full SJWs. The only problem there audience is not SJWs. They think they can get audience to like their garage. They hope the next one is the one.
Disney has completely forgotten about families. My wife and I don’t even bother taking our three kids to their films. They are quite content to sit at home and we will thrown in a vhs animated film from decades ago and my girls love it. Along with the added bonus of us not having to explain adult topics to them.
I don’t think they have forgotten about families at all. I think they are fondly imagining the parents want to show their kids the “updated for modern audiences“ stuff so the little ones will learn all about diversity, and how women should not want/need the love of a man, and all those other messages they want to spread.
They are definitely moving away from traditional family.
We still have D+ for now, but I have forbidden a number of shows, especially the ones with idiot parents. I don't know why that was a trend, but I'm not keen on telling my kids to watch shows that make me look bad.
Bluey is still good, though. So good.
Vhs?
@@gregowen2022 Have them watch things like the Hercules animated show. Although I feel like I appreciate that show now being much older and knowledge about greek mythology than I would have when I was a kid 😅 😅.
@@KrytoRift Indeed 😎.
I'm all for the fall of Disney. I doubt it'll ever Die. But I'm not gonna lose a moments sleep if it becomes crippled and unable to monopolize our childhood memories so that they can try to monopolize our adult years with nostalgia.
I agree. I want them to either return to the 2000s or just go bankrupt. This current Disney is awful
@@gregowen2022 2000s disney wasnt great either with "classics" like brother bear, home on the range, dinosaur, bolt, chicken little and stuff like that the only good moves were lilo and stich and meet the Robinsons 2010 kinda revived disney with wreck it ralph, tangled,zootopia and stuff like that but now it's going down again
I have tremendous respect for Walt’s great, century-old legacy and do not want to see it vandalised. I derive NO pleasure from the fall of Disney. I want someone to come in, clean house, and restore the House of Mouse to its former glory.
@@gregowen2022 considering the 2000s is now ripe for nostalgia Greg, can they really pull it off? Their 2000s output is mixed
The fact that a new Indiana Jones cost within the region of the Avatar movies is a great indicator that, on top of many other problems, Disney cannot budget their films for crap. Which is probably making their other problems worse.
This is what happens when delusional people run companies. Well, when they file for bankruptcy, reality should eventually catch up with them. Thanks for the video. It was fun to watch.
It's so strange to see a company that refuses to make a product that people want to buy.
In few years this will be a case study in economic college classes.
It's baffling. I can understand trying something new, obviously a company has to stay nimble and seek new markets, but after a couple Years of it clearly not working, then it's just willful ignorance
@@gregowen2022 I can't understand it, but it seems to me as a case of self-delusion. I wonder who is the largest shareholder in Disney? How are shareholders haven't revolted yet?
That Peltz guy was leading a revolt and then Iger said the magic word "Dividend" and everyone was so distracted they forgot about the pipeline of garbage content the company is pumping out
@@gregowen2022 Interesting. I need to look in to sharehold meeting.
I love Neil Gaiman's Anansi in "American Gods," and his story would be a great animated feature if adapted properly, which at this point Disney is uncapable of.
It would be excellent, and there are so many to choose from! Gaiman did a great job, and then there are just the traditional tales themselves
Raceswapper Gayman? Hahaha....no.
@Greg Owen absolutely!, I prefer the books to the HBO series. My expectations for anything adapted to visual media are greatly diminished of late.
@@MeltonCrest 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
The latest earnings call for Disney was BRUTAL. I can't even imagine what next year is going to be like after this year. I genuinely thought that at least GOTG3 would do well and now it looks like it's going to break even. Does Disney have anything coming out that will make them a profit this year? Ouch.
Not to be pessimistic, but I kind of hope next week's earnings are terrible or this whole video will be embarrassing, lol.
Last year they had Avatar and Wakanda to buoy the numbers a bit, but this year is looking bleak. GOTG3 is getting very lukewarm reviews. Little Mermaid isn't going to be a cash cow, assuming it profits at all. It's all looking average at best
@@gregowen2022 Is it me or does Avatar 2’s “2 billion in 3 weeks” Feel a little suspicious.
@@gabrielgarcia3524 I thought it was a month. But at least that one can be somewhat explained by even the first film doing substantially better overseas than in the US (and there not being much else in the month if Januray). Their other stuff tends to be more even, so if it doesn't do great in the states... Oof.
I don't even think that it's parents not being tolerant of LGBT groups, I think it's just the way their stories are being portrayed. There have been immensely, broadly popular LGBT characters for decades. Think Will & Grace, or Cam and Mitch from Modern Family, or (my personal favorite character ever) Captain Holt from Brooklyn 99! The issue is that LGBT characters used to be portrayed as just normal people with normal life experiences who just happened to be gay or lesbian. But in the last 5-10 years LGBT characters have been almost universally portrayed as victims who heroically overcome society's oppression. The connotation of that portrayal is that non-LGBT people are the ones constantly oppressing them, which is just very insulting to non-LGBT people who, as this video points out, happen to make up 93% of the population! So it's not the presence of LGBT characters that is the problem, it's the very confrontational way in which they are portrayed these days.
OH MY GOD THIS!!!!!! Absolutely fucking agree
Black characters have received the same fate. Representation as a whole has been POISONED in the last decade😭🤦♂️
Lars Ulrich, the drummer of Metallica, was asked in an interview about how he reaponds to accusations of selling out. He said "yeah, we sold out. Sold out every show!"
Huh
Just started watching your channel. It's edifying to know I'm not the only person wondering where my Disney Anansi movie is.
I just can't understand how they haven't used famous folklore from a whole continent. There are sooooo many stories to mine.
I appreciate you watching!
@@gregowen2022 I think there's probably an Anansi trilogy in there: Anansi as fool learning the value of wisdom, as collector who learns to overcome his own greed and finally as storyteller who nurtures the next generation. I can see the final scene, Prodagonist, "I wasn't able to get you a new story. I failed", and the spider laughs.
@@gregowen2022 Stop forgetting about the Uncle Remus stories!
Another thing Disney needs to do to redeem itself is release Song of the South!
The joke about the online leftist crowd not being the same as real life ones... Should have been "they also have less money... And children... You know, your audience?!" But overall your jokes were crushing it 😂
I weep for Disney. Used to watch the Disney Channel all the time with shows like Kim Possible, Proud Family, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Boy Meets World and their Original movies like Halloweentown, The Poof Point, Phantom of the Megaplex, and True Confessions.
Now it's all just garbage
My kids are watching through the old Boy Meets World right now. I forgot how much I enjoyed that show.
Sadly, it's all lessened in quality. Even the animation itself looks lower quality
@@gregowen2022 Yup and Boy Meets World was insanely good, even the actors loved the show. During the last episode when they are all tearing up, that's not acting, they were genuinely sad it was over and they could only do it in one take because it was too hard to do again.
How many TV shows can even hope to say such a thing these days?
I’m bisexual and I think Disney’s movies have been garbage for over a decade. Am I bigoted against myself? 🤔
Haha, you're a traitor to The Community! You've internalized self hatred, or.... something, I guess.
I cancelled Disney Plus. I have a bunch of friends who refuse to cancel Disney Plus, because they got rid of all their DVDs and they want access to all the classic Disney stuff, but they all say they tell their kids not to watch any new Disney shows or movies.
They just need to cancel it and find all the DVDs on eBay or the thrift store.
Remind them that with the money they're spending on D+ they could be rebuying the dvds they hurriedly got rid of for no reason.
@@jimthar17 I ripped all my Blurays and DVDs onto my Plex Server. It's my own personal Netflix. I would tell them all to use Plex, but most people don't want to be bothered with making a personal media server. :)
Easier to tell kids not to watch things than to let them watch and then talk about what they watched. NOTHING is off limits to my 13-year-old daughter, but we also talk about things because I actually parent her instead of keeping her in the dark to get around doing my job.
@@NoelleTakestheSky that's fine for you and your teenager.
I'm 75 years old. I made several trips to Disney World back when it was fun and carefree. Spent my honeymoon there. I watched Disney films back when you felt good throughout the movie. I lived in the golden age of Disney, now all gone. You young people will never know how truly grand it was. I'm sorry.
im equally sorry. it's a shame to watch something you love just... fall apart.
You can watch old staff with them.
As someone who went to the Galactic star cruiser hotel as a gift from someone who could afford it, it was very, very cool but I would never spend my own money on it as it was just way too short.
I wouldn’t go even if I could afford it because I have no interest in cosplaying the sequel trilogy.
Disney "attempt" at modernizing Wendy was on par with making the black nanny from The Tom and Jerry cartoons from the 40's into a strong independent woman.
They might as well have had a neon sign floating above Wendy that said "strong woman"
Disney has decided that they are going to market to woke Disney adults instead of kids and families
You know Greg, even though "Wish" looks promising, it's still difficult for families to trust Disney and Pixar after the fiasco with Turning Red, Lightyear, and Strange World. Disney has imploded on themselves. You may have a point about Pixar hanging by a thread with "Elemental " and how it's likely gonna severe it😅 Parents are either not going to take their kids to their movies, or if they are, they will have to read their plots to find out what is in them to confirm whether it's safe for their children to view.
Yeah, I'm not even giving Wish a chance until reviewers that I actually trust give it at least one thumbs up.
I agree, and it's going to create a downward spiral for them.
No one trusts them so they wait for reviews. Opening weekend numbers look bad. People avoid the movie because opening weekend was bad, so the movie must be bad right?
That spiral will feed itself until they put out consistently high quality, parent approved projects for several movies in a row. Trust is hard to get back
The people who didn't like Turning Red tended to be conservatives who were pissed that the movie was geared toward girls dealing with puberty. That's not unsafe. It's something literally all kids deal with, and this one just happened to be an allegory for periods, which is something that half of all CHILDREN will deal with.
Why should all movies be geared toward the delicate anti-female sensibilities of conservative Christians?
@Noelle Takes the Sky Alright, it's true that we all went through puberty, but it's not really a topic that most parents want to discuss with their prebuscent kids. I know that not all movies are geared towards conservative families, but like it or not, the truth of the matter is many large families have conservative values. Pixar started off with wholesome films like Toy story, A bug's Life, Monsters Inc , Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, and Cars. I saw turning red, it didn't bother me, but puberty is a separate topic left to parents teach to their kids, or even school teachers. Pixar should just stick to creating wholesome films that everyone of all ages can enjoy, because that is what they were known for. Since Pixar started infusing their animated features with mature themes, it really turned parents off, and it's really hurting Pixar in the box office and in streaming, people what to be entertained and be provided with escapism in a theater, not be educated. Turning Red can relate to teenagers, but if Pixar what's to make films for ages 13+ they should rate rate their films that way so people can be aware of that.
@@NoelleTakestheSkyMy sister was only 6 at the time and they went all out with the periods and inudo references(that and the ritual was a bit too much).
But yeah that one gave us a weird vibe 😂.
I'm pretty sure they'll survive, giants like Disney always land on their feet. Although not without some broken bones for sure, but there are always the small bunch of people staying safe even in situations like these, like Ms Kennedy who's taking Star Wars into the abyss and she's not going to stop anytime soon. Everyone knows it, even in Disney, and yet... she's still there. How things can still work like that? I don't know, it's way beyond me.
More often than not, such giants survive by being chopped to several smaller companies and sold separately.
Well, it can bounce back if they have the the humility to see what's not working and how to fix things. For instance, Walt Disney was accused of selling out when Walt Disney Productions started doing live action as well animation but it was necessary because a lot of them were cheaper than expensive animation and could help finance something like Sleeping Beauty. I also liked Disney under Michael Eisner for a time. Disney distributed great adult films under Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures like Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poets Society, The Rock, Crimson Tide, Ransom and Con Air. Then you got some surprise gems like Natty Gann, Honey I Shrunk the Kids and Flight of the Navigator. I also enjoyed The Rocketeer, Dick Tracy and Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The Renaissance begun under Eisner's watch.
The thing is, The Bob Iger Company (I don't want to drag Disney's name in the mud) thought they were too big to fail. They don't care about the market because they think they ARE the market and THEY think they know what's best. And unless the shareholders stage an uprising (that shareholder conference was legit the most entertaining thing to come out of them in years, thank you VR and WDW Pro) they aren't going to reverse course anytime soon. They'd rather spend billions to fight Desantis over something they have no hope of winning (Legal Mindset will explain that better) than putting it towards their theme parks and staff. Meanwhile studios that actually care about a profit are going to eat Iger's lunch until his tenure is up. Mario might be the biggest movie of the year, meanwhile Iger has waning audiences. The theme parks really are the only thing they have going for them but once Universal gets their expansions up, only time will tell... and I think time is telling us to ride the Donkey Kong Kart ride so I'll be looking forward to that.
Can Disney regain it's health? Sure.... the day Walt Disney comes out of the cryogenic storage he's in.
I'm surprised there aren't earthquakes on the property from the vibrations of him turning in his grave
as somebody who's bi, I think that people tend to forget that life goals come in play as to who you end up with, anybody who is bi and has set their life on having children is genrally not going to actively date people of the same sex long term; Not to mention that the LGBTQ+ comunity has so much in fighting, that the Bs are often under some form of attack, and the LGB part already has a sizable group of people who've detracted from the wider community; our sexuality often is just our sexuality, we generally don't care to look at stuff because "hey, look! it's us!" ~ We just want stuff that's fun and enjoyable, like literally everybody else.
I don't mind stuff like gay kisses, etc; add them, for all I care, love is love, etc; but, is it jut a kiss, or, am do I just avoid it because I don't wanna have to explain something I really don't wanna have to explain? not to mention that the entire thing often just feels like a huge marketing ploy to "own the christians" which always ends up backfiring because it's literally 99% of the time a meaningless 3 seconds at best shoehorned in in a manner that they can cut it out ready for the chinese market, who knew that taking shots in the general direction of ~50% of your audience base is not a good idea...
The commentry over family is also a fun one, you look at stuff like star wars, my first memory of the movie was in the living room as a young kiddo late at night, wrapped up on the chair gawking in amazement; is there really any movies these days in which you *really* wanna let your kids experience like that? Disney has took over property in which you could do that with; and generally no longer targets their marketing towards those people; all I knew about many of their recent shows is that "oh, hey, LGTQ+ character!!", there is an obvious lack of things which really hook you in and makes you buy a ticket before its even out
If it's "a meaningless 3 seconds at best," then those bigoted Christians can be the ones to ignore it. If they're fine seeing a man and a woman smooch for a moment, then they can deal with a couple men or a couple women puckering up for a moment. We shouldn't always have to pander to the delicate sensibilities of Christians. I don't like Kirk Cameron's bullshit movies, but rather than scream that they exist, how dare they not be for me, I...just don't go to them. Disney's latest movies are so fucking overhanded that they're not for me...and I just won't go. If those bigoted Christians can't had two people with the same junk in their pants kiss for a moment, then they can stay home go watch whatever God's Not Dead movie they're on now.
how the hell does greg have only 13k subscibers he deserves so much more
greg i love your videos keep up the good work
I appreciate the kind words, thank you.
Just a few months ago, it was under 1000, so I'm grateful to already be here!
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Ok that was damn good. 😂😂😂😂
Damn, you've done what I thought was impossible. I actually didn't fast forward over your sponsor spot. Normally I can't get to the video controls fast enough.
It's because I used the secret weapon: a cat!
Hey was rewarded handsomely
I take no joy from Disney losing millions of dollars for these horrible decisions…I hope they clean house of all the directors, producers, and any of the higher ups who lead this powerful industry to their knees
“It seems we have no choice but to watch a once great and majestic company go down and make funny videos along the way.”
That about sums it up!
Disney has been a sinking ship for ages, but because they kept stapling huge new pieces onto themselves it was hard to see. For example: Iger admitted in his memoir that Kathleen Kennedy said she wanted to set up Galaxy's Edge to focus on 'the new stories' and not on legacy characters. But look at the entire package: we had Rogue One, the nostalgia bait sequels, a nostalgia prequel, and two legacy character movies that turned into series (Obi and Boba). Someone needed to stand up and say this was stupid. They needed to put Luke, Leia, Han and Chewie together and work towards the hand-off, they needed to let people come to Mos Eisley instead of Battu, and so on.
Marvel and Pixar are in the same boat. Pixar assumes their legacy is enough to sell tickets that feel like a different studio made them, and Marvel continues the trend of unfinished stories and post-credit teases. Sure, this stuff worked in comic books, but those things weren't 200-250 million dollar tentpoles. Hell, you want to really see how badly Disney is screwing up? The Marvel Legends figures for Ant-Man 3 aren't due out until August. AUGUST. Most of the figures for D+ came out six months to a year after their related show finished. That means they aren't even maximizing the potential return from merchandise. They're starting to get them aligned now (Guardians 3's figures came out in time, even if they made some dumb decisions with the line) but the damage is done.
As a comparison point: they didn't make an individual figure line for Strange World, just an assortment box and a vehicle with main character combination. Google 'Disney Atlantis Figures' to see what they could have done, if they had any faith in the film. Or look at the memes around The Little Mermaid clips that came out. The CGI for Ariel is actually worse than the second Matrix was. Watch her body change shape, or the position of her clothing, or the way her face sits. Apparently the biggest thing under the sea is the uncanny valley.
The only two things that I liked from The Little Mermaid remake are Ariel looking gorgeous and some of the soundtrack...That's it. I don't know if it's going to make a billion like what Super Mario Bros. did, it might be better than Pinocchio last year (yes, it was on Disney+ but still) but it's going to be a bad ride of awkwardness.
They have this incredible fixation with injecting politics into everything and I'm sick of it. The writers and producers all seem to inject themselves into the story
Yeah, not everything needs politics, but know what I'm sick of? Losing autonomy, the fear of my daughter getting killed in school so you can have your precious fucking guns, and all your conservative bullshit about loving freedom while you're actually trying to demote people who aren't straight white cis Christian men to less than.
0:47 They really should've just let it go. Seeing Indiana Jones as an old man is depressing as shit. If you wanna make an Indiana Jones thing make an ANIMATED movie, and have Ford voice him. There, then you can do whatever insane adventure you want and not have to worry about stunts, CGI or any of that crap.
Or you could just recast the role.
An animated version would have been incredible! I saw Drinker and co joking about how the premise for Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was that Indy was getting old and stuff. That was a decade ago!
@@gregowen2022 Hell make an Animated Indiana Jones tv show. That way you can give him all kinds of adventures to go on, bring back characters, keep villains around, explore literally ANY place in the world. The idea would almost certainly make assloads of money.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the writer's strike and how that might effect disney going foward 🤔.
I think Disney is doing the "appeal to LGBT" route not because it's meant for a broader audience, but because it's more appealing to investors and is more marketable. Investors aren't the smartest cookies in the shed, and use buzzwords almost as often as CEOs do, and "diversity" is definitely a popular buzzword in the space. It's unfortuantely how a lot of companies work (in the same way "crypto" and "ai" are buzzwords that can get your startup 20m seed funding with no product or team :P), and once the buzzwords shift is when the product will shift. Nothing we can do about it.
You're absolutely right. They are gullible just like anyone else. DEI is the cool new thing.
Haha, that was a funny time when "block chain technology" was the cool thing to have.
Lastly, did you just change from disoriented like 2 minutes ago? Or am I seeing things
@@gregowen2022 Haha i haven't changed my name for years, it's probably your browser. I was excited for the blockchain stuff(even learned Solidity) until i worked for a blockchain company... that industry was and still is a complete bubble :P
I think Disney's going this route because conservatives have told them not to. When it comes to investors, investors tend to want the most money, and and the "most marketable" tens to be what will make the most money, and right now, they aren't getting that. It has nothing to do with investors or marketability, and everything to do with conservative fuckwits wanting everything to be made for conservative Christians.
I don't want to discuss sexuality with my 4 year old because Disney is grooming children. Disney used to be that company where you didn't have to screen the movies before showing them to your children. It's sickening. How about NO secret agendas of any kind when it comes to our kids? Just tell great stories with good values. I've only seen The Little Mermaid (the OG) a couple times and I still remember all the words to most all of the songs...did Wish even have songs?
I think the channel really needs one of those AI's that are about to enslave mankind to create a video of Doctor Greg battling Business Greg in a fight to the death. It could only help.
Haha, at this point I might have enough voice footage to train one. We could have them arguing about which starter pokemon is best. Dr Greg seems like a Squirtle guy
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Thank you so much! It's been an amazing year already
Disney’s reputation for lawyers will take a beating when they lose their lawsuits against Florida. Disney’s theme parks will lose to Universal EPIC and Nintendo World. Who’s Disney in a few years.
Is this company trying to earn money? Because if they were trying to lose billions of dollars on purpose, this is exactly how they could go about it.
It's wild. They must have cash to burn because they are wasting it like I've never seen
I think you’re losing money if you keep taking shit about Disney because your the one with the woke problems not Disney they are not doing anything like that ok
Indiana Jones woman: and then I stole it it’s called capitalism.
Me: Capitalism- an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.
Florida already lost with Disney
They are on the losing side for now, but Ron wants that presidential bid and I don't think he's done fighting. He wants to show that he's a culture warrior
They are both losing.
Even DreamWorks is making a live action remake of the first How To Train Your Dragon movie. Have they learnt nothing from Disney's blunders?
Business Greg actually had me watch the whole sponsor spot...brilliant
Thank you! I'm pretty excited about having an ad to read!
Universal does a great job on keeping the budgets of their animated films down,in the past year for example: "Sing 2" $85 million dollars, " The Bad guys" $69-80 million dollars, "Minions: The Rise of Gru " $80 million dollars, " Puss in boots: The Last Wish " $90 million dollars, and "The Super Mario Bros Movie" $100 million dollars.
Right. I don't understand where Disney is spending their money when those other projects look incredible at half the price
@Greg Owen Exactly 💯 and it's all because they take too much time making their animated movies, and some (such as lightyear) have alot of potential but the makers decide to give us a Bore-fest😴
Honestly, from my understanding, this isn't their first rodeo. there's a reason Disney had the renaissance. it because they had a dark age. and then after the renaissance, they had the direct to DVD sequels. which I personally see this remake thrend, is it's baby sibling. Because of how similar they are. MINUS the attacking of paying customers part. (that is new)
Then we got the MCU, Frozen and such. Before the remake started their drop again.
So I think Disney is just in their newest low point. and in the future... pretty FAR future for how stubborn they are. They'll get their shit back together and make great stuff again. Would be nice if that jump start is WISH. But I'm not getting my hopes TOO high.
I really like that optimistic take. It's a huge company so they won't go bankrupt overnight. I hope they have the time to see the errors and fix them.
I'll be ready to buy their product again when they deliver a good one
I feel like that would only work if an Eisner-like and someone who knows them well to temper them took the helm, someone with a ambition and creative spirit to make something that appeals universally.
@@jonathandear4914 True. I think the reason why companies like Nintendo are serviving this long is that they seem to at least stick to their roots. understand what got them started in the first place. and it's the lessons keep in mind.
maybe if they find someone with the same mentality, Disney may recover.
I love the optimism but let me tell you what's wrong with it! There has been a MAJOR cultural shift at Disney with Iger's tenure. The biggest fault of the "Dark Age" is that Card Walker and Ron Miller were too close to Walt and just kept trying to do what Walt did without half the talent or a clear creative vision of their own. Roy Disney brought in Michael Eisner as a fresh outside person with a strong creative vision, and we got the Disney Renaissance, Disney Afternoon, etc. Unfortunately Eisner went off the rails, as anyone does when their power outlasts their creativity, and he was intentionally replaced by Bob Iger, who doesn't have a single creative bone in his body. He only sees Disney in terms of brands and IP to leverage. Hence his buying up IP like a high-end Classic Media. And this has been going on now for close to 20 years. When Chapek couldn't hack it, their solution was to bring back the guy who created all the problems. There's nobody steering the ship at this point, regardless of who they can find to be captain.
When a franchise gets too big for their britches (that's trousers for ppl not in the US) they eventually get to a point where there's nowhere to go but down. Either by mistakes, lack of future planning, stupid people running it, an unlisted 4th thing or a combination of them; but eventually they all get there and unless they fix it, it's a spiral down all the way until it dies.
If it's a lesser-known franchise, they usually get sold off either as a collection or in parts to different companies and either eventually forgotten or revived from the ashes by the new owners. The rare occasions will be for the worst case: a big company parasyte like EA Games will buy it and feed off it's IP to survive itself. Best case is the team who worked there left and formed their own company to continue the magic they still have.
*TLDR Here* : But since this is Disney it's more likely it'll go bankrupt and quietly the new owners will take over and revive the company or they boot out everyone in charge and swap them to try and fix it. Disney is just too big of a nostalgia to just end up dying. Even during Covid they nearly went bankrupt and they're still here. I doubt Disney will disappear, but a new Era is upon us.
Oh no. I just realized Disney owns "The Nightmare Before Christmas". That means eventually they'll remake it as a live action abomination!
we altready have the sequel to that - it is called "The Nightmare continues" - a live action played by Disney in real life. How cool is that?
We should get a pool going on who ends up pulling the hostile take over, and how much board gets for setting it up.
Dr. Greg and Business Greg in the same video?!? You spoil us sir
One day I'll have to do a short film starring everyone, like Eddy Murphy
The real problem is nobody is even looking at the real terminal cancer. The movies and entertainment division can burn and bleed. It doesn’t matter. They are a high risk, occasionally high reward small piece of the business. All of the profits from all of the Marvel Movies over the past 10-15 years = 3-6 months profit from Parks and Resorts. And the crown jewel. The absolute money printing machine, is Walt Disney World in Orlando. And through folly, ego, pure unhinged stupidity and arrogance, Iger has likely killed but. By waging an ill advised war with the State of Florida. And every action Iger takes increases Disney’s losses. Increases their legal risk and financial exposure. In just 30 days Iger took Chapek’s ham fisted mistake in Florida, and dialed it up several orders of magnitude. They lost Reedy Creek. They needed to ask for a new district under the new rules and move on. Not attempt shady back room deals. Not let slip even the illusion that Disney and Reedy Zcreek were separate, thus bringing on investigations into criminality and potential Bond Fraud. Teeing them up for Billions of dollars. Best case they just owe back taxes interest and penalties on the bonds. Worst case the bonds get cancelled and Disney has to pay them back. Iger and Disney somehow missed that by attempting to tie this all up in courts for years, all land use, planning, permitting, inspections and permissions will be tied up for years. Reedy Creek is gone. There is no status quo to return to. They can’t build a new toilet until this gets resolved. While Universal is plowing ahead with more and more newer bigger better stuff.
man your vids are getting better and more entertaining each time!!
Thank you so much! It's weird, learning on the job, but it's very fun
Disney is an prime example why unrestricted ownership is a bad thing. It means you can own everything, like Disney currently does, and have no competition to push you.
It should be limited by law as to how many IP's can someone own
I definitely see your point here, but when it comes to a luxury sector like entertainment, I would be extremely hesitant to restrict them. No one NEEDS to go see the movies and some of the onus is on the consumer. Fortunately, the market is starting to kick in and their projects are losing money
@@gregowen2022 I honestly wonder if the world ever needed IP law. Look at China. Economically they're a powerhouse (discounting the many issues with top-down governance). And they don't give a hoot about anyone's IP but their own. And let's be honest if an American wanted to steal Chinese IP, would anyone stop them?
There's a situation where it's as though IP doesn't exist at all, and yet China's making bank.
Just a thought: in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter who comes up with an idea. It matters who can leverage it. Established businesses have their own ideas, and are often clunky enough that they can't immediately 'steal' the ideas of others in productive ways anyways. Except by subverting IP law itself...
Honestly it really strikes me as legal nonsense. Ownership of an idea just restricts people from developing and expanding upon it. Maybe not as much in the case of patents, but surely in copyright. Maybe the best Spider-man story out there comes from a homeless man in Sweden. If he has the means to tell the story, the world deserves it, whether Marvel wants it or not.
Disney actually has a lot of competition. Have you forgotten Dreamworks and Illumination exist?
To add about Disney Parks: Star Wars Star Cruiser Hotel is, imo, the least of their problem. Just scratching the surface.
After diving into Theme Parks community & TH-cam, there is a some sentiment continuously rising:
More people are slowly considering Universal Orlando over Disney World. Universal is coming for them even in their Parks division.
In a Disney vacation:
• You pay more
• Get nickel-and-dimed more
• Have to glue to your phone all day looking Ride reservations & Food mobile order
• Keep the phone charged
• Staff are less accommodating than before
• Worse theming in newer rides, which also use a blander screen-based tech instead of physical sets
All while Universal parks are (currently) cheaper for similar or better quality & experience, and no requirement to use mobile phone all day or rigid schedule. They also seem to listen to feedback, like how they're no longer addicted to bad screen-based rides after poor reception.
And the new big Epic Universe Park & the new rail link opening could accelerate Universal's process of gaining market share from Disney.
So this Disney's cash cow may not even be safe long term, especially since they can't fix their park in a short timeframe (unless they're going for generic funfair vibe)
Of course, with younger kids not being brought to view Disney films (that aren't of that Walt Disney quality) and not being brought to visit their Parks right now, can also impact their Park attendance long into the future.
Disney World is kind of a nostalgic, magical visit, and a familial milestone - and Disney seems to be destroying that too; putting their park off of that pedestal.
You're absolutely right that they are gaining. I don't think they've overtaken Disney in overall quality yet, but probably in value.
I was there in 2019 to visit potterworld around Halloween and we popped over to Disney for the not-so-scary Halloween thing. I still feel like Disney is a better experience, but goodness that one night was crazy expensive.
I would understand someone accepting a SLIGHTLY lower quality experience at Universal in exchange for the massive savings.
@@gregowen2022 Universal will also build Epic Universe, Nintendo World, & the Legend of Zelda ride in the next 5 years. Disney's Tron took FOREVER to build, and the results have been mixed at best. Yes, there was covid to consider. However, if you also pit it against Universal's Velicicoaster (which also had to deal with covid delays), the time it took to build it, the quality, and overall guest satisfaction beat Tron easily. Once Universal has all 3 new additions, Disney parks will take a massive hit.
Secret pro pro PRO youtube move you put the cat in the advertisement. Nice play
Great dissecting video and nailed it on point!
"alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". THATS WHAT WOKE MEANS
This video is more creative than the last 10 years of Disney combined.
I wonder who will end up replacing Disney.
Based on the recent entries from DreamWorks and Illumination, I think Universal smells blood and is ready to take over
Zootopia 2 will suck horribly.
The first one succeeded, because all the weird Critical Race Theory commentary was subtextual and hidden from normies who just saw a generic "racism bad" allegory.
There's no way they will allow the woke lens of Zootopia to be subtextual in a post-George Floyd, post-Trump era.
You're right in that's probably how they'll play it. I can see them missing the point of why zootopia worked with it's vague "prejudice bad" theme and the sequel having a character name George Lloyd who is framed by zootopia PD.
I hope not, but I won't be surprised.
@@gregowen2022 Heres the fact Greg:
It's long been proven that Flyod swallied fentanyl or some type of drugs when he became arrested. His death being the start of a year of pointless riots is not something I'll put up with for the sequel animating
I have Disney+, but its solely for watching the early phases of the MCU and the classic Disney movies and tv shows. Anything new they put out just isn't worth watching these days
Disney needs to bankrupt. Maybe whoever purchases the scraps can do something with the husk.
Nothing to be done...
I’m convinced someone at Disney is stealing money because all this money to make average movies that lose money ? Mario has amazing graphics yet only cost £100m it doesn’t make any sense
Some where someone said something about getting too big. Something like getting too big for your britches? Disney seems to have done that. They don’t remember their roots are entertainment not politics.
Its because Disney has been evading taxes that all the other corporations have down there.
IMHO, I hope they go bankrupt, the parks shut down, and the IPs distributed to better studios.
I'm rooting for Lucasfilm and Pixar to get sold.
It would make me downright gleeful to see Apple buy Pixar and put Lasseter back in charge
@@gregowen2022 At least sell off Lucasfilm.
Pixar is capable of a comeback
Matt Walsh has 6 kids. Greg Owen has 6 kids. WAKE UP, SHEEPLE.
You've never seen Matt and I in the same room....
The best thing Hollywood could do is not sign the Writers Guild demands, and hire non-union writers. We'd all be better off.
I do not think that Queer Representation is a major reason why Disney makes a net negative (maybe some are being turned off, but it's mostly because bad writing). Case in point, The Owl House, Arcane and some Animes (like Lycoris Recoil) are quite popular
Discovered this channel from a comment on the Critical Drinker. Glad I found it!
I'm glad you did, too! Thanks for checking me out
You are legit becoming my favorite TH-camr. Keep it up man. Btw I am starting a campaign to get you on @Nerdrotic Friday Night Tights.
I really appreciate it! Hanging out with those guys would be fun
This became my favorite channel after about the second video. And mostly all I watch is TH-cam. I actually get excited when I see that he's posted a new video, lol.
Oh dang, I'm in full support of him hanging out with jeremy and the crew. That'd be super tight!
I've been saying Drinker's Open Bar
Disney+ is such a loser. They only have one hit show and it seems like everything is cancelled after it's first season.
They are clearly copying off of Netflix's test, not realizing that they are currently getting a C-
Disney made their bug infested bed they can sleep on it
I already dropped flowers at the grave. I used to watch everything related to the failure of Disney, now not even that. No Star Wars, no Marvel, nothing. This is the last one of the last beating of the dead horse. Zootopia 2? Maybe, I mean that is the last pillar of hope, I am a furry after all.
you'd think with how much we spend on making dumb movies, we could use that to finish paying the national debt in a decade.
I'm sorry Business Greg, but that's a terrible tie.
Disney has lost the plot.
I don't think they will ever recover..sad but true.
If they don't change direction they will sink.
In the words of Obi Wan Kenobi, "you have done that yourself!"
I don’t think I’m your target audience but I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. As a lgbt person Disney does such a shit job with queer characters I would rather they not even include them. They just do everything terrible now I can’t imagine how they think turning out unending garbage every month is what we want
The disney brand has been damaged so much that even the latest GOTG3 which has great reviews looks likely to lose money.
The customer is sick of political messaging and been sold too many duds to keep coming back.
It's like a bad restaurant people aren't coming back to their regular haunt after receiving bad food or service once let alone multiple bad meals (movies) will take years to rebuild customer trust.
Disney has jumped the shark. I have been a Star Wars fan since the mid 70s and I can’t bring myself to watch Star Wars anymore. I hope the grown-ups show back up soon.
Their stuff is just Content now, it's the only way to describe it. Just soulless corporate content
I love these videos, keep them coming
Continuing to enjoy your videos. You are doing great stuff!
This is defintately popcorn time, not a "takes sides" situation.
Yup, Disney nosed over years ago and has now entered terminal velocity. gonna be fun to watch... the reeeeing to end all reeee!
I'm conflicted. I miss the old Disney, but watching this train wreck is entertaining as heck
@@gregowen2022 Missing the old Disney is perfectly rational... but they died. What we have shambling around now is zombie Disney... stuck in a burning airplane hurtling towards the ground at high speed.
Cant wait for the live action zootopia remake.
nice video, can't wait for the funny one to come out
Poor Dr Greg. I feel bad for him.
He just wants to be helpful!
I feel like such an erudite hipster knowing that I subscribed before you hit 100k 😎
Haha, I'm still the underground band your friends don't know about. That makes me feel pretty cool
Lol, I've been pimping Greg out to all my friends. He's the pulp culture hero we need.
I don’t even care anything about Ashoka or anything else at this point. The only thing great start to finish has been andor and rogue one. I just cancelled my Disney plus and I’ve been a hardcore fan since 77.
You know what doesn't cost too much
*"My Mom"*
The Regular show fans will get it
Iger looks like a man that needs a Bud Light.
As a longtime disney fan, i am done with Disney
More like a suicidal tendency, and at this rate, it's only a matter of time for the end of their road.
7:41 the reason, Blackrock
Disney has totally embraced the darkside which is the WEF and ESG. I would personally love to roast marshmellows over it's burning carcass. For love of God please sell the SW IP Disney before you destroy it....SMH
Greg, got an idea for you, after seeing how Disney's once family friendly values have collapsed: how about a little bit of exploration of Christian themes in LOTR. Tolkien was a devout Catholic, and I dont believe it is a coincidence that the date of the Feast of the anunciation of Mary happens to be the date on which Tolkien had Frodo finally destroy the One Ring.
Anyway, the values of LOTR : fellowship, friendship, loyalty, courage in the face of a hopeless situation all mirror biblical virtues.
I also suspect our more open minded Muslim and Jewish brothers and sisters can identify with these virtues as well, from their own history and holy texts.
Disneyland is no longer “top notch.” The park is run down and dirty with many rides in disrepair. There seems to be a lack of pride in the employees and the “magic” is definitely gone. My trip in December was the last time I’ll ever go to that place.
That's so sad to hear. Last time I was there was Halloween of 2019 and it was excellent. I hate to see the parks lose the magic
Well you should go again ok Jess
Can we hope that they repurpose the old Alien Encounter animatronic for live action Stitch?
Why did they get rid of Alien in the first place? Wasn't it popular?
@@ct6852 too scary for the kiddies
@@andrewtaylor940 Bummer. Disney needs something like that. Something the kids could work up the nerve for.